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[@askdljas]

The thing I don’t understand is how this game was already given an extra year of development and it feels so raw

[@SuperOrangeSauce]

And how they said they were ahead of schedule just a few months before release.

[@haarld2347]

Pandemic. But still no excuse for saying they were ahead of schedule.

[@SuperOrangeSauce]

@@haarld2347 Yeah maybe. Or not true.

[@JWSoul]

They did to much that's why. They should of released another Bf instead they released this mess that's has multiple games in it.

[@AMRsti93]

because these Idiots were really Gun-ho about releasing a stupid weather system that nobody asked for and 128 players..... both of which makes the game run like dogshit

[@leepalmer9558]

Its missing like 50 basic QOL features from previous BF games. The entire game is a step backwards in every way, theres no one positive from it.

[@Tom-gt8yv]

are u weetarded? do u know eaasy it is to add a fking scoreboard

[@Slay3r88]

@@Tom-gt8yv if it was easy why wasn’t it added in the first place. It shouldn’t have been removed same with voice chat and other simple things that were in previous battlefield games

[@nadjotorres3246]

Truth said

[@sadsoul777]

A year is a bit much of a delay but this game could do with an extra year of development

[@anjodanielsuper]

dont need a full year, 3 months its already good, the big problem for the game its because is so buggued and laggued, of course a bunch of thing they removed of other battlefields, but to launch the game just stable and good, 2 or 3 months i think its already good

[@Ninjachickenfingers]

That’s exactly what Halo did though

[@spikedeagle6795]

At least 6 months

[@dizzydabz6905]

Facts. Why do developers rush this process?

[@benjaminknudson5997]

just dont release the game, cut your losses and try again next year

[@MrSparta93]

EA follows launch dates on early basis. Im sure DICE has at LEAST said once to EA that they need time. Better put out one good BF title in 3 4 years. Give it mod tools and/or Portal and watch your community thrive. Alas one can only dream EA would satisfy customers not investors and stock holders..

[@f4rt989]

Yea it’s so sad to see dice being held back by ea. idk if that’s what actually happens but To me it seems dice has a lot of passion for their game but is getting held back by corporate bs

[@Fudo94]

@@f4rt989 They do have a history with poor releases but the games turn out great in the end. Just takes a couple of months.

[@TheGriefplay]

i can assure you that this decision was not at all good for the investors / stock holders bro

[@poko60]

Fucking Battlefield 4, Battlefront, Battlefront 2, Anthem, BF2042, Forcing devs to Frostbite engine and many people (also Shroud) not playing Apex for shitty servers (pretty much every EA game has shitty servers). When will this company realise

[@shubham_marathe]

@@onward8231 being a liberal snowflake doesn't mean they are bad at their job.

[@darkjackl999]

The classic, wait like 3-4 months for dice to fix it because its released in a broken state Idk how people dont know this, its been like this since battlefield 3

[@eboyicecream1305]

doesn’t mean it should stay that way. rather have a good launch than wait 4 months to play a game I spent 60-70 on at least.

[@Pandize]

I just want content man. They advertised global natural disasters and storms. Where are they? All I see is a couple tornadoes and a sand storm here and there. No tsunamis, hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanos, anything. They even show a boat on the launch screen, but we never see it?

[@roxbantv]

@@Pandize umm tornadoes are not natural disaster? They never said game will have volcanos and earthquakes

[@thegreatid3595]

Idk why the consensus that the community is angry just because of the bugs it’s mostly due to the lack of content and the lack of identity with the gsme. It feels like cod ground war more then battlefield.

[@Jamal-fx1gv]

That's the most pathetic stance I have ever seen. Just because "it has been like this since bf3" doesn't mean they will be able to fix it, because it's not the same Dice. Additionally this Game has no Core, no soul it can't be saved. Way too sterile and bland. If you look back at BF4, you can see the love they put in the Maps. It was just bugged, but they poured their heart in it. But BF2042 is just a messy Frankenstein of bad management, development and png's.

[@blindfire3167]

It's a "time" issue because the people at the top (managers, shareholders, executives, leads, etc) want their money. They would much rather put out a game much quicker that "works" than put in the extra money to pay people to polish it up. The games we have now take YEARS to make, even if you have assets, code from previous games, and so on, they usually add or redefine features that takes 1000s of lines of code and usually comes with more bugs that need to be fixed (which is not anything you can do about, programmers can't think of every single scenario where the game might bug out/break and have it fixed with the time given to them....just like an artist, you'll get a masterpiece if you give them a couple of weeks to create something, but if you give them a couple of days, it most likely won't turn out how you want). EA, Activision-Blizzard, and CDPR are the 3 biggest companies no game dev wants to work for because they try to make a timeline that's so far unrealistic that they tell you to work on something for a few months and have it nearly completed, only to tap you on the shoulder and tell you it should have been done in 1/2 the time you're taking and to just scrap it all to make sure the game "Works" on launch (and no, CP2077 was not created in 7 years, they had employees leave because of the Witcher 3 (same issues as CP2077, unrealistic timeline and bad management in general) and when they had the first trailer released, they didn't even have a story completely written, let alone any of the game's ideas implemented, they were still looking for new hires....the game was created in about 3 years which is impossible to add that "AI that has their own tasks they complete each day to make the world feel alive" which took Bethesda nearly a decade to get right for Oblivion/Skyrim).

[@ethanlemberger7772]

Bro you need a job as a writer or something how do you have the time to write this all

[@blindfire3167]

@@ethanlemberger7772 104 wpm took like 1 1/2 minutes lol. I've already met a lot of people who have/are working as a game dev (trying to get some contacts/references so I don't have to start out in one of those shitty companies..... they sometimes start new devs out on a salary so that they don't have to pay their overtime when they have to start working crunch time....no thank you) so it's just me putting what I know onto a comment lol

[@CaveraPlays]

That's some good info. Surprised that I haven't seen the info that cyberpunk was created in 3-4 years before. This whole situation made me think that cd project red had the worst developers in the industry

[@blindfire3167]

@@CaveraPlays Most of what I've seen is "They had 7 years how did they fuck up!?!" because the first trailer was announced back in like 2012-2013 which was 2-3 years before Witcher 3 released. I can't exactly say "There's no bad devs" since some people might take a year for something any other person can finish in a few months, but most of the time, they're being forced to stay late and show up on weekends for crunch time to get the game in a working state (any dev/company will tell you that "Crunch time" is optional, but I've personally known 1 person who refused to come in on the weekend after 11 hour days for a week and they were fired as soon as they found any small reason for it, and these bigger companies talk to each other, so finding a new job in the industry really sucks ass to be known as "Refusing to work crunch time...but it all worked out, they got into an indie studio and they seem to be making it through).

[@drax4901]

You work for EA/Dice?

[@WrathChild-NZ]

It's missing a LOT of content. hardly any guns, took away rush, domination and tdm, not many gadgets, no player stats, etc etc. You'd think a game that's multiplayer only as opposed to having a single player campaign that BF usually has, they would have put extra effort into the Multiplayer. but that hasnt been the case.

[@SiixSeasons]

... Ok, I'm a huge Battlefield fan and this hasn't been the funnest launch, but my guy there IS a Rush game mode. Lol. You can just re-take an objective you've lost. Rush was my favorite game mode on BF4 and I have to admit that that change isn't a bad one. Outside of that one bit I agree. This launch has been horrible. I'm actually not going to play it until they've pushed out some major updates (I heard 3-4 through the end of December).

[@nickymill]

@@SiixSeasons there is rush in portal but its basically pointless because no one plays on portal since you dont earn any XP dogshit game all around up and down refund dice pls

[@caseylowe5592]

@@nickymill or, you know, you play rush for the enjoyment of the mode. Go play cookie clicker if you only play for progression

[@tanishkchaudhary4923]

@@SiixSeasons Isn't rush only in portal? Correct me if I am wrong

[@mohammedghanem9228]

And that's not a communication issue I feel like saying it's communication is just shifting some blame from the devs, the investors didn't say put less guns its the devs that are just doing something wrong

[@Kuraiomo]

It's getting a lot of hate not only because of bad launch, but also because it's a huge downgrade from previous battlefields. And I'm not even talking about specialists who don't really specialise in anything, but general game mechanics and so on.

[@tanishkchaudhary4923]

The steam review says everything, even the positive reviews were like this game is just not acceptable

[@subhankhan4614]

I agree, I've seen a lot of people say "Oh look, BF2042 is getting better...". 70% of the game content is a copy and paste of the previous title with even worse optimization and visuals. The atmosphere is worse, it doesn't feel like Battlefield, they're trying to follow Ubisoft's "what's shown and what's given" trend. No server browser, their own matchmaking sucks, empty lobbies all the time, those who bought in Asia can only play Conquest with 2-3 crappy maps all the time. The best part is that the new amateur devs at DICE are good at making crappy excuses always trying to cut through the crap with their crappy logic.

[@gwhizWHO]

Shroud on the chopper is scary 💀💀💀

[@Pepe-pq3om]

@💋Fanira💋 what about, no?

[@iamnotjeff]

ok..

[@carterfn5939]

This game has so much potential but it’s just not meeting expectations yet

[@swizzler8053]

It ain't gonna happen.

[@VeIxity]

Other than the class system and specialists, I’ve been really enjoying this game alongside with Portal. This game has acres of land for improvement don’t get me wrong, but I enjoy the game underneath the surface.

[@JakeEatNow]

Agreed. Can’t wait for the fix on the bloom

[@Jadedpanthermatt]

I think this game will be a hit in a year

[@pillowpalace6424]

For me its almost the opposite, i like the class sytem anf specialists alot but dislike almost everything else, the Performance, Movement, Maps are too Big for shotguns, Vehicles are too easy to control and have to much power. Mayor Bugs that make the game unplayable, 128 but alot of them being AI (yes even if u havent noticed them, thats the point), No weapon Balancing, battlepass but you cant see it, no scoreboard, no all chat and no voice chat (everyone is a winner please dont hate snowflake type of game) everyone is running the pp for long and short distance and lastly almost no guns, srsly 2 Lmgs only? BRING BACK THE OG BATTLEFIELD STYLE IVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS SHITTY ASS WW1 WW2 AND NOW BF2077

[@VeIxity]

@@Jadedpanthermatt agreed. Battlefield is *notorious* for having the roughest launches lmao. Overtime this game will be great, and I hope Portal evolves, it has so much long term potential!

[@pillowpalace6424]

@@Jadedpanthermatt Dead*

[@Gregl337]

I’m a bf3 bf4 and bf1 vet, I played 3 games of all out warfare and refunded it. It’s not battlefield anymore. Too big maps, too many people, operators and dumb should have classes. I could go on. Dice have lost it

[@kohai-kun9261]

"The devs could do a better job of communicating that to the investors/stockholders... I don't believe that excuse" Obviously, I don't know Shroud personally so I can't speak authoritatively, but this mindset absolutely reeks of someone who has never worked in software development at a larger company that answers to investors/publishers and the like. Or really even software development in general. After doing dev work for a variety of different clients over the past few years, among the first few things I learned were: 1. Most clients don't know the first thing about software development, and the time it takes to implent certain features 2. Many of these same clients seem blatantly incapable of grasping this, even after repeated and extremely straightforward explanations put in the simplest terms possible. It seems like they get this extremely nebulous idea of what they think they want in their heads, latch onto it , and then just assume that "oh well it worked for X, so why won't it work here?" No amount of explaining "oh well they're using an entirely different platform/they had a team of X size and a budget of Y/that feature causes conflicts because of Z" will be able to dislodge their firmly held idea that something should be possible in their situation. That's not even to mention that working on large projects such as these, with such large dev teams, there's very much the constant threat of "oh, you say you can't get this done in X timeframe? Fine, get lost. I'll find someone who says they can." Large publishers rarely tend to care about the devs actually doing the coding, and they really don't care about the quality of the end product. All they see is their bottom line -- they'll put an incomplete pile of trash out if they think it'll sell anyway (b/c of of hype, name recognition, marketing, etc). The idea that game devs are just lazy/don't care tends to be wildly off-base, and this misconception seems to stem from people getting Dunning-Krueger'd hard concerning just how much control/autonomy the actual devs have over the projects they work on. Unless you're working at a startup, or a comparatively small firm, you don't really get to pick and choose what you want to code and how it gets done. Someone (usually the one funding your project) tells you what to do, and you do it.

[@atomaweapon]

The thing is - it's not our problem. It's not our problem to understand all those elements. We're the consumer. I just dropped 100 bucks on usable trash like an idiot. Yes most understand that basic premise of devs now answer to shareholders, but after the BV5 massive flop this is inexcusable.

[@fallzero7304]

Honestly it's a fun game Not something entirely new and mind-blowing but I feel like if they were given the time they mightve needed this game could've been something more Dice wanted to do something bigger and better but it feels like they tried it unsuccessfully to complete it on time I got the ultimate edition and I'm not really regretting it cause I love battlefield and its base foundations of how it's comprised but this game needs to be worked a hella lot more and it's too evident Like I'm not even able to get into a game for like atleast 10 min each time

[@darcysykes909]

6:31 i feel like I'm watching the trailer lol

[@Ellero22]

That part made me laugh so hard - it just looked so stupid hahaha

[@sweetw7526]

Shroud : i can barely aim at 80 frames me : cries in the corner with 1050ti-m whiffeling all shots

[@TylerLL2112]

The weird thing, I’m getting identical frames to my friends 3080 on my 2080 super. I’m getting like 3fps off of my 2060super on my backup rig. It’s as if it matters very little. Though, I don’t recall VRAM on the 1050ti perhaps even on low it’s still using too much? But, even on a great setup the game feels awful currently.

[@Tsarmanderi]

I was playing with GTX 1080 on the beta and often times dipped under 60fps even with low settings on 1080p

[@Spladoinkal]

@@TylerLL2112 Because the game doesn't make proper use of gpus or cpus at this time. Both go underutilized.

[@dizzydabz6905]

Yeah, you having 80 frames is not a good sign 😂

[@nameofthegame9664]

It’s insanely hard to run. It’s so Cpu heavy it’s crazy. I’ve gotten it to run on a somewhat stable 100 fps on a high/medium settings combo. I have a RTX3090 OC and an i911900KF and it feels like I’m playing on a 300$ rig from Best Buy.

[@awesomeface2125]

@@nameofthegame9664 5800x 4,8ghz on all cores, and a heavly oc'd rtx 2070s. 70-80fps on low 1440p. This is just sad

[@deIete_]

@@nameofthegame9664 $300 rig from best buy will not get anywhere close to 100 frames on any setting.

[@muhammadsohail7184]

@@deIete_ Yes, congrats, you got the joke

[@nameofthegame9664]

@@deIete_ I pretty sure you didn’t understand my comment. I have 6000$+ rig but it feels like I’m sitting on a 300$ one from Best Buy while playing BF just because it’s so heavy to run even with monster hardware.

[@Applejocky]

Bruh best gameplay ive seen in awhile! 🤯🤯

[@Bossmano]

I think the worst part is the specialist system. The best part of battlefield is working with your squad. Passing ammo to your teammates, putting down a medical crate, Repairing your friends tank and defying all odds and surviving a massive attack felt gratifying. The change where any class can use a weapon is counter intuitive. They did it so people wouldn’t chose a class for its weapons, by making any class about to use them? It’s a step back in every aspect except the weather changes. The medics in bf1 were no doubt OP but that didn’t take away from the fun factor

[@Benrage321]

Pretty sure the thoughts about releasing it later were kind of like this: A: "How much longer?" B: "Like.. 3-6 months, maybe." A: "But then we miss christmas." B: "Yeah fuck it."

[@dr.downvote]

This is a certified shroud cycle. Imma visit again when he uploads a video named KING RETURNS BACK TO BATTLEFIELD

[@tannerhamilton6025]

It's hilarious how the non-battlefield players are tripping over a bad launch, as if this hasn't been the Battlefield standard for 10 years

[@Fndijdennd]

Dogshit standard.

[@bibleotaku]

Cope

[@Phenixtri]

The difference is that 10 years ago A the games launched feature complete for the most part and B they actualy delivered on content as well as patch any bugs where needed. As of BFVajayjay that is no longer the case. The precedent has been set IE DICE and EA will no longer support a game long term to save some shekels for investors. Moral of the story is buyers beware lest both your wallet and arse be ravaged by a giant corporate dong .... yet again ...

[@anjodanielsuper]

well, you talk like thats a good thing, hey, every battlefield launch broken, thats fine, just wait? like wtf, people are just exhausting of broken games and shit launchs

[@Crobian]

I've played every Battlefield launch and aside from BF4 which a lot of people had crashes from I can't remember the actual game being this bad/unfinished/janky etc

[@jeremyroberts8822]

I think you’re being a little naive by assuming it’s as simple as a communication issue. I’d bet hella money that they were told it needed more time but it didn’t matter cus the investors expect a return on their investment by a certain time. If it was as simple as just telling them hey we need more time this wouldn’t be happening so often

[@erikdean1914]

I blame the monster that Early Access has become. It's ironic because early access is incredibly valuable to indie developers. It allows for studios that have little funding ,limited exposure/advertising, and a very small team to develop games that are competitive with the larger studios. They save money and time by allowing the consumer to pinpoint any major flaws that need attention along with the the game's strengths. Simultaneously they are building exposure and making money. The issue is that this model of distribution is also highly advantageous to all studios, regardless of their size. Thus, we have AAA studios using early access to cash-in on additional exposure, and early revenue to boost share value, all while putting millions of their customers to work mining for bugs and issues in their games. Their developers can take a break or move on to another project while reallocating the bare minimum of resources towards maintaining their game's profitability (i.e. patches).

[@simonfoster8697]

Truth bomb

[@MrOldGamer91]

Yo there is no kill feed in the game ??

[@IntellectualTerritory]

Mom take the battlefield out of the freezer before I get home. EA sleeps and forgets and takes out of freezer when mom is in the driveway.

[@dk-zd5rg]

I also think a lot of studios are incentivized to put out half worked content because their business model is to release a new iteration every year. Why spend an extra year polishing the game if you can churn out two half assed games in the meantime..

[@Screm]

"If you're delaying it a year, that's a little much" - Overwatch 2, in collaboration with Overwatch 1

[@L1ven]

Well OW when it came out first time was polished af. I had real fun in game. But then they went full idiot with meta and balance and meh. Season 5 was my last. After that I just felt like the game gives more to players without aim and good hit scanning was made pointless.

[@Lolatyou332]

Dev's don't launch games, the business, who barely communicates with devs, push a launch date and force the devs to make shortcuts.

[@waynetendo1172]

besides the obvious issues like lack of gun variety, QoL issues, weird bullet drop on post-modern weapons, etc. - i think the verticality they've introduced in the maps and the gadgets introduces too much chaos, and that's really saying something for a BF game. i've been playing them since 1942. this much mobility for infantry breaks the balance in a lot of ways and i don't think they've compensated for it. i think that's the real issue this game is going to have going forward. i do look forward to what Portal has to offer though, i think that's going to be what most people play.

[@baileybuie2120]

I have no idea if its just because of the smaller map sizes and graphical change between the older generations of consoles but my xbox one has been running battlefield 2042 beautifully. No lag, haven’t seen any huge glitches, rank progression is working right, weather events run smoothly, and gunplay is not broken for my game

[@worf786]

Time is the most valuable currency that game devs can have and they never have enough of it. Whether that's investors or their ego is a good discussion. They can release games in this state because they know people will buy it and delude themselves consistently saying 'it will get better'.

[@akasha9597]

@1:47 "if your delaying it like a year then okay its a little much" - yeah sure, but what if it takes them a year post launch to improve and update the game? That's just straight up unfair on the players

[@salvo6867]

When is the merch being shipped out?

[@naumsennicov9388]

The flurry of asles that AAA title games make during the end of the year (Black friday, thanks giving, cyber momday, boxing day, new years...) Most games like CoD and BF don't do one game to last years and years, they typically do the yearly releases and they probably have themselves trapped in this cycle of constantly having to find the next big hit game (like MW2 and BF3)... Warzone is the only examlpe of these 2 FPS franchises doing the longevity play with micrortansactions to sustain it, but still, the $80 ticket price is likely a huge source of the profit for them, especially since (apparently) the integration ofnew cods is so tough in WZ (Cold War was a disaster integration) - just a thought

[@Bonobo_JoJo]

So long as people continue to pre-order games that they KNOW won’t be finished on release this type of ish will never stop. It’s not even the game devs fault anymore. It’s on the community that has shown they’re complacent with half baked games for full price the last 5 years. This applies to all games btw, not just Battlefield.

[@constipatedsheep6864]

To preorder games nowadays is just stupid. How do people expect games to be good on launch with how greedy devs are now?

[@roflwoflofl]

But what does the mousepad come in?

[@CBu3no]

If they had released the game for Christmas I wouldn't even be mad. They could've used that time to optimize some more

[@goose2323]

Loololollol

[@varadkelaskar6617]

can't buy your mouse it does'nt show the page

[@samuelhutton4477]

M5 with warhawk, the skinny mag, laser and an cqb sight is so good for hipfire and mows people down

[@JakeEatNow]

Just wait till they hopefully fix the bloom in the upcoming patch

[@samuelhutton4477]

@@JakeEatNow Oh yeah, switched away from LMG because I couldnt see my enemies when firing

[@KayosWONER]

to be fair its not Devs that release games its publishers and they push the timeline, still dumb for them over all but its usually not up to a dev when the game comes out. The other problem you run into is like the profit margins are high enough that even if they get bad press and release poorly theyre still making their targeted income on that project, so really for EA having DICE say like we need another month doesnt really effect the bottom line for bean counters. Then the other part being if you keep giving devs time its like any art project there is always one more thing that could be done better.

[@krucialFPS]

I was waiting so long for the 2042 launch to grow my channel. It's depressing seeing all of the negative attention to the game. It'll be a great game eventually, but it could have been so much bigger if the launch went well. I'm just disappointed.

[@ryanwitter8820]

The thing thats been rough about bf2042 is that crossplay was the reason i bought it, but i cant play with my friends on pc because im on the "old gen" ps4 :(

[@Jesus4Guitar]

128 players vs 64, different versions of the game

[@ssirooroo8258]

Tbh devs dont care they put money into making the game/advertisement they want to make it back as fast as they can regardless if its good or bad they can fix it with updates thats the problem with gaming right now

[@looming_]

I party agree with you, but these complex projects especially like battlefield take a lot of testing to be a polished product. It's just not possible for a dev team to iron out. This game need a closed beta testing phase where real players just play the game and report all possible issues. The problem is, this beta testing phase is pushed onto the community. The first few months of pretty much any battlefield game has been like this. I would mind it but they need to stop charging the full price until game game is in a playable state.

[@TheOffroader7458]

Shareholders are more important then the people who buy the game

[@Vaxular]

Games coming out should do more play testing, seems games coming out haven’t been tested enough to find bugs in order to fix them

[@elimartin4686]

That house thou! 🤙👀 haha looks very Italian, you on lake como now homie?!

[@lilpronto3627]

I feel like the movement isn’t bad it’s just different which is good, every game can’t feel like cod or Apex super fast past with jumping and sliding. Atleast one game gotta be different & pub g is just outdated… let’s see what WW3 is gonna do..

[@Yungbeck]

I was gonna get this at launch but I'm gonna wait for a few updates

[@ThieVuz]

The problem with battlefield is the entire game lol, why do they keep expecting us to buy half assed games for full price only to say 'but we will update and develop it down the road'.

[@b3kCat]

Devs don't release games @Shroud. Publishing companies do.

[@302Bt]

Shroud you should throw a New Year’s Eve party and charge people to watch you stream live in person.. that would be wild

[@HackerArmy03]

Sure, this game would've been the greatest multiplayer game for the 1st quarter of 2021 if they just launched it properly like any proper game company with morals and ethics still left but sadly, they don't have it. You honestly can't really defend this and if you do, just remember that you're defending on the WRONG side I mean seriously, is it that enjoyable for you to play broken games and have to wait a year or 2 with DLC's/Micro-transactions already out? Wtf?

[@stellarhyme3]

1st quarter of 2021 was over a long time ago.

[@HackerArmy03]

@@stellarhyme3 Ah crap goes to show how my brain works in this pandemic LMAO

[@ryanromero2454]

People don’t look at it like that. The individual is trying to reach a certain quota per quarter. Once a company reaches a certain size quality goes out the window because the people who are running the company no longer care about creativity they only care about numbers.

[@VR6NAVYVW]

Im confused by his use of bloom. Bloom is aesthetic not a mechanic.

[@OsaculnenolajO]

It's clearly a better financial decision for investors to get an unfinished game out earlier and fix it over a year or two, than it is to wait an extra year and release it in a more polished state. Especially with these massive franchises like BF, COD, Fallout, etc. Look at the numbers. Sure 2042 is getting slammed with negative press, but the steam charts show its still being played by a lot of people.

[@Kizarat]

What are Shroud's PC specs?

[@BeepBopBoop303]

They release games broken and unfinished because they know they can get away with it. So many people still preorder and buy the game when they know from Dice's record that they always overpromise and underdeliver on their games at launch. There's not much incentive to do better next time when they already have the money before the game is even out.

[@bagelbeater]

you can't deny that 6:32 was f**king cool

[@swizzler8053]

Help me out. Why isn't there a launch trailer for this sheit game?

[@tanishkchaudhary4923]

There is, about 7-8 months ago I think

[@swizzler8053]

@@tanishkchaudhary4923 🤣🤣🤣

[@ImMcSparky]

It's such a good game, IF it was complete man.... I played the beta and that's what made me pre-order but now, it feels like the beta was better and the release is garbage rn

[@zone6bear]

The better was worst. Idk what you smoking

[@ImMcSparky]

@@zone6bear "feels" Key word there bud

[@JakeEatNow]

The only thing better on beta was the AR gunplay

[@zone6bear]

@@ImMcSparky key word or not, the beta was worst in every way.

[@ImMcSparky]

@@zone6bear ok I'll....I dunno, "be blunt?" *I* had a better experience in the beta. I experienced fewer problems somehow and smoother gameplay. The game is released and now I'm running through walls, rounds aren't doin damage sometimes (I shot a guy laying in the ground square in his dome. Blood splatter, no but marker) Everyone's experiences differ, and I shouldn't have to say that. For ME, the beta FEELS like it was better due to this. *Hopefully* I've explained this clearly enough for you any anyone else to understand

[@nightwand1742]

so what dies bloom do?

[@jdez095]

Battlefield 4 had a terrible launch too but now we love it. This game will be no different.

[@DomiDomi00LOVE00TeK]

Are you still at 351 eDPI Shroudy ?

[@memphismr.savagesavage5232]

Is there a br mode?

[@zawiszaczarny1749]

that famous satanic cult >one eye picture< for that mouse adversment tho

[@McShag420]

Devs aren't to blame. I guarantee they told EA it wasn't ready. The problem is that investors have the last say and they think releasing at a pre-ordained date is the way it needs to be done. The reality is, releases as bad as this just push thousands of people away that may not ever pick the game back up and people that might have been thinking about buying it will look at negative reviews and maybe never look back.

[@NoHandsNoArms]

Why do games even do betas and alphas anymore. It was clear as day that even on bf2042 beta that the game was unfinished, and they reassured people by saying that its an older version like why like that made any sense to even put an older version for the beta so people would keep reporting some bugs they may have already fixed. How is it so damn hard nowadays :|

[@cfvgd]

They do it because they get away with it. The players are more stupid than ever.

[@NoHandsNoArms]

@@cfvgd that is very true and sad my friend

[@hasvik95]

How do investors never get that releasing a game in this state will just lose them money??

[@FEWGEE1]

The title makes it sound like there's only one problem. There's too many to list.

[@mitchellll86]

Feels like it’s missing a bunch of “battlefield staples” and the fps is abysmal yet I can’t get enough. I’ve been having a blast with 2042 and know that DICE will have it humming in the coming months. But this trend needs to die of good enough when it’s not close to finished.

[@MrRobschnieder]

Idk, aside from the bugs that will be fixxed there is so many weird decisions that are completely anti FPS and anti BF... no real scoreboard, the goofy/cringey end scene. Like who even wants that junk

[@kole081]

The problem with Battlefield @1:30, No one spawns tanks

[@pinkspiders34]

The maps, despite all the other shit ppl hate, its def the maps that will hold it back long term. Everything else is adjustable.

[@fenrissilverfang8419]

Aiming at 80 fps, I wish i could even pull 20 to 30 in most games these days let alone boot up newer stuff... Even if the launch isn't that great, still sad to not be able to play it at all when you're stuck with a 16~ year old rig and cant afford an upgrade as prices go up.

[@mikethedrummersca]

Weird, this video crashed 5 times before I could even open it

[@MrUniq]

No developer is going to tell their boss to delay the company project. Even the head manager isn’t going to explain to the CTO or CEO why the project they have on calendar will miss the quarter. EA is perfectly fine to squeeze out a modest profit to release it on time. This is why people have been asking the fans to stop preordering games, don’t buy. This game probably was profitable on the marketing hype alone…no corporation is going to turn down money. They don’t care about the quality of the game.

[@jonman2279]

The MAIN and only thing i truly hate. Not the bad hit reg, or bad performance. Nothing like that. But the fact that there is NO close quarter maps or game modes! WTF. Operation metro was number one played map, period. WHY arent they brining TDM back? Its what most people WANT

[@Gekayy]

"The game will get better" it's missing large portions of "the game." If it didn't ship with it, it's not coming. Remember last Battlefield and all that promised content? LOL THIS GAME NEEDED ANOTHER YEAR TO JUST ADD THE CUT CONTENT. Never mind all the promised improvements that aren't there.

[@Bobstar767]

you ever play bf4? comparing its final stage to launch state is a total disservice, so lets just wait for now

[@rickd6914]

Even with patch #3 there will still be issues needing to be addressed. But that should of been when AA launched at a minimum. I agree with Shroud, there is no doubt if after patch #3 and they actually fix what they say they are doing then the hate would be no where near as bad as it was when it launched. How could they have not seen that coming and not asked the investors exactly that? Give it at least one more month and we'll make more money. Again still a lot more to go past that but at least it would have been more stable for most to play.

[@AshTrayPot]

remeber shroud u can change jump key and vault key

[@username-up1ph]

Your skill is amazing! You should play for some pro Cs go team or something.

[@BnsJns]

The problem with Big Developer games is everyone is prepaying for the game which in turn leaves no incentive for developers to finish their games because everyone already prepaid for the game before it launched so developers already get paid before it launches!!!

[@stevearino4160]

shroud: man playing with 80 FPS is horrible me: *playing at 7 FPS*

[@malakairamirez4856]

shroud should have a podcast or be a commentator

[@nachospectrack1862]

i mean, the game its playable, you can have fun, it could be worse, the thing in the entire bf series is that the bugs makes the game fun, not talking about bugs that makes crashes or not literally not playable , more like those bugs where the characters goes flying or cars go under the floor, bf4 have many bugs too , the funny moments videos on youtube was hilarious, (at least its not cyberpunk xd) of course that not excuse for a bad launch from game that doesnt cost 5 dollars, and only has multiplayer (making sure to say thats its my personal opinion)

[@nanotech2080]

It's a great game underneath with insane potential, you can see how much fun he was having at those moments. Just imagine if everything worked how it's supposed to, just insane... Looking forward to that day, I really hope they fix this one sooner than later.

[@tusher23]

4:30 the problem with battlefield 2042 is, Halo. 👋🤣👍

[@MisterMan0119]

All that matters is if you personally enjoy the game, who cares what other people have to say as long as you enjoy it. Yeah it’s buggy but I still have a hell of a lot of fun playing it with my friends.

[@aBadWizard]

@Shroud how do you think refunds should be handled in scenarios like these broken releases? I purchased a broken product and I want my money back, but the industry is somehow allowed to just say "no"??!?! Where are the laws protecting consumers from getting scammed by companies that SHOULD be reputable? This whole situation feels scummy...

[@aBadWizard]

(Ik shroud doesn't look at his own content, but maybe somebody will pass this question along)

[@thomasrees2162]

@@aBadWizard ik with steam u can refund but people just need to stop preordering, the game will be good in future though.

[@constipatedsheep6864]

Did you preorder? If you buy it on steam, pretty sure you can get a refund easily

[@tanishkchaudhary4923]

Pretty sure that if you buy on steam, you can refund with ease

[@aBadWizard]

It was on Microsoft Xbox store

[@oraxi4732]

Due to covid there is a lot of miss communication within big game developing companies

[@MatrixJanrabbit]

BF4's launch was an absolute disaster as was BF3

[@cfvgd]

At least the core was solid. This is just straight up trash

[@herrschade3169]

Why does his floor look like sand?

[@stuffstuff9988]

You know I’m having fun with friends even tho I die because I can’t aim down sight or can’t do anything sometimes but ea won’t let us any more down than it already did

[@rhapzodyk541]

The investors don't care because a popular IP like Battlefield will still sell copies even if it's a dumpster fire on launch. Why delay it another year when you can just get the money right here and now during fall when everyone's buying up gifts for their loved ones?

[@nathansanrochman5018]

Bro the wingsuit is so fricking cool man

[@toxboxdevel6026]

Finally an advertisement that doesn't waste my time and shows me everything I need to know!

[@TheFerumn]

1:40 The problem is that they wont earn more money if the game is better... i mean they will earn more but its not worth extra time they put on it. They will use this time to already prepare another game and thats sad really. And you know who is to blame ? Players for buying not finished product anyway, for buying before even game is released, for buying microtransactions.

[@TheFerumn]

Ohhh and another thing. They have free beta testing on everybody. Its less expensive to test game on players and fix after launch than paying for beta testing for professional company

[@icecold89341]

Its investors, its the same shit that plagued cyberpunk, the investors sued cd to release the game then sued them again after they didnt get enough roi.