the problem with the avril lavigne conspiracy theory

did people’s obsession with nostalgia lead to such an outlandish theory?
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[@VALENSlO]

She was a depressed teen, so she sung abt it, and then she became a happy young adult

[@Ho3e]

She also hated the public back then because she's extremely shy. She slowly started to come out in her shell which is why she handles the media so well as an adult after being in the media 20 years

[@maryperry6573]

Right, like, how long are we supposed to be angsty teenagers? 😹

[@ambradanielle]

Hmm similar to Billie Eilish

[@brentthompson1607]

Avril was never depressed. She was just a poser. And still is.

[@jamangel]

Lol

[@t_ylr]

The industry makes so much money on artists that have passed away. You don't have to make a clone.

[@BombshElle_7]

FACTS!

[@whatthehellisthis]

yep it’s the worst with deceased rappers

[@literallylikedude9814]

pop smoke is literally the perfect example

[@y2kpopofficial]

@@literallylikedude9814 aaliyah too

[@whatthehellisthis]

@@literallylikedude9814 xxxtentacion was the person that came to mind for me but it’s true for him too

[@QuatMan]

Avril fans not being able to accept that she isn't a 15 year old with an attitude amymore is cray cray lolol

[@panashe5268]

A lot of people are saying “she just grew up,” in my opinion, it has nothing to do with that. Her “change” happened damn near over night. I can understand going through a phase but the whole “rock/skater girl” seemed to be a BIG part of her personality, you don’t drop that over night. Especially when you do an entire 180 and come out looking like Trisha Paytas.

[@zuzukram]

@@panashe5268 what if she was out of the phase for a long time but she felt pressured to keep up the facade and one day she just decided to drop it

[@panashe5268]

@@zuzukram Again, it didn’t seem like a phase. Look at someone like Aaliyah, she came into the game during her tomboy phase and when she matured it seemed like a natural progression. There’s also a lot to this theory besides just “her look” her voice changed as well, the way she sung certain notes changed, her cadence changed etc. again this was in the span of a couple of months not years.

[@Shaylovespopeye]

No thank you your opinion is wrong your Delusional

[@Ho3e]

@@panashe5268 You need to keep in mind that she was 17 when she had her debut while 24 and married when she went all pink and girly. You dress differently each year, ofcourse she would outgrow that tomboy skater punk persona.

[@hotsexyangel]

I blame Shane Dawson for making this theory so widespread. He didn’t start the theory but he definitely made it worse by promoting it and saying he believed it.

[@cheshirerose2001]

His reasons were stupid too one of them was about handwriting I believe?? Even though people's handwriting changes

[@yinyin8769]

Yea, and he’s absolutely responsible for promoting it to younger generations as well. I remember my parents being shocked when they found out I knew about this theory because I wasn’t even born yet when Avril supposedly "got replaced", but I only knew about it because of Shane. Pretty crazy how 2 whole generations went wild over this theory and one of them did so because of that man💀

[@user-ke2ot4wd2s]

It's been known for a WHILE in latin america and it's just a funny thing to talk about. No one actually takes it seriously.

[@soup8160]

Tbh I've gotten deep into this stupid theory but I never knew Shane made a theory video about it? I wouldn't blame him lol this hate bandwagon towards him is becoming just a reason to bully him atp.

[@mayaflici374]

@@soup8160 you call it hate bandwagon we call it holding people accountable. You can think that it's not that big of a deal, but Shane had huge platforms with young and easy to impress fans. Fans that were attentive to his every word, while he tried to make every video as sensationalized as he could. Telling people he believed certain theories along with not even trying to be logical or a tiny bit critical of them (because it would make the video less spooky) did perpetuate many narratives and spread their notoriety. A huge platform comes with responsibility.

[@DrewRueDoo]

She simply just changed and grew up, like most human. She’s almost 40. Imagine a 40 year old woman dressing the same way she did when she was 18 years old. 😂

[@faynuexunqi4042]

she actually don't dress the same at all back then she just wore a tank and baggy jeans

[@jamangel]

Lmao right

[@nigellanjuat3294]

True 😭

[@dinbertv9793]

oh no she's 37

[@sunnny1312]

lmao exactly

[@jifij89]

it’s always been so weird to me that people said she looked soooo different, she looks the exact same except older and with different makeup!

[@devanshepard9118]

Right I blame plastic surgery and how it changes the industry

[@jamangel]

Right

[@alextroy9202]

She has aged so she looks a little different but not dramsticly

[@JD43232]

The reason the theory is so populair is because theres something going on for sure. Obviously she isnt dead......but she has used a double throughout her career and theres enough proof out there. Theres a double. Thats why the ''she died'' theory comes from. Shes alive just like the other.

[@somber087]

@@JD43232 Why would she use a double? Its not like shes the most important person in the world, its so bizzare and yall just reaching at this point.

[@lnworlddomination]

yesss thank you for the "avril isn't dead, she just grew up". people really believe this theory as they are exactly the same person as they were at 17

[@MylingCyrus]

Putting the conspiracy on her grandfather passing is really sad and.... insensitive.. idk the right word how to express it Icky let's go with that

[@sangsterxx1897]

She wrote Slipped Away as a tribute to him and people try to say that's proof and it's her talking to Avril which is just so terrible

[@EF-kk3vh]

Same with using the name Melissa, the name of a fan she was raising money for? Unless I misunderstood that part but it seems a little icky yeah

[@bishimbareu]

yes, she got really depressed after her grandpa died, she even wrote slipped away, her performances of that song are extremely sad, i can't believe people still believe she was a clone when she did that song, it was clearly something that affected her so much, that's why her under my skin era was so dark, she didn't die, she just got depressed with all the things that happened on her life

[@nonokes]

@@sangsterxx1897 I hadn't heard of that song in years and reading this comment made my heart stop. I still remember the lyrics. The song is so sad

[@jamangel]

Right

[@Throatzillaaa]

"She became everything she hated; Avril would never do that." Like yall realize you don't know Avril, right?

[@rahmad21]

just imagine, she release an album with the title ''AVRIL IS DEAD', that would be hilarious, iconic, and controversial. 😂

[@dannyrivera2733]

That would be so hilarious lmao

[@march7th____]

imagine if she would make it metal too🤣🤣

[@Kazuma_kiryu311]

Yasss lmfao

[@mamatvoja69]

She should definitely at least write a song about it! That would be amazing 🤣

[@acj1212]

Those people with stupid brain would believe it even more 😂😂

[@alexbush714]

She literally just...changed lol. Artists change. They go through different phases/eras. I hope she doesn't think about this too much or cares because I imagine this could be really damaging to your mental health. Being told by a group of people who used to be your fans that you're not really you. That's just...awful. People shouldn't make claims like that. To anyone who actually believes the conspiracy: You've literally never known her. You don't know her. You don't know anyone involved. Stop making damaging claims for internet points and go hunt for bigfoot or something.

[@devanshepard9118]

Since 2020 It seems there are a lot of people who have lost touch with reality

[@stillfangirlingtoday1468]

@@devanshepard9118 This theory has been going on for more than a decade.

[@AndreasTabuMuntu]

One thing Avril Lavigne can do is, is write the heck out of a ballad. And most if not, all of her ballads are bops! The fact that her label always wanted her to write another *Girlfriend* is insane to me. They never cared about her nor her fanbase. I'm 33 now and have been an Avril Lavigne fan since I was 16 years old. And her ballads are the best parts of her discography. IJS

[@catharinecarvalho267]

I love her ballads so much

[@jnthnofficial]

when you're gone is an example

[@AntiStraightMaleSociety]

Nah I miss her rock/punk songs

[@breesbutera3613]

@@jnthnofficial and head above water

[@dog3293]

I totally agree!

[@cheshirerose2001]

As a huge Avril fan I always hated this theory it's so stupid. These people can't grasp that people change as they get older

[@missrockygirl09]

Amen

[@charlesalkuino2760]

those people are an uneducated that's why they don't have a common sense

[@axis1198]

But imagine the opposite, if Avril never changed her style, never went for a new sound, and stayed the same forever in terms of style and music genre. The people who make those rumors would probably still say something about her like "she never grew up" or "she's still the same as ever, nothing new". like it's so stupid either way. Let her be

[@nickmendes7479]

absolutely!

[@littlewillowlinda]

For real. They'd be like oh her music is boring, heard it before!! Or "isn't she too old for the stuff she's singing about?" Idk the music industry and fans are completely unrealistic in their expectations lol

[@sangsterxx1897]

Another thing I saw someone point out is if she were dead, her label wouldn't let her make it obvious by letting her change so drastically, especially after UMS. Also labels make way more money after an artist has passed than when they're alive so all around the theory is quite stupid and had so many holes and inconsistencies. There are a lot of artists who've changed yet they get praised for it but when it's Avril, it possibly can't be her

[@zebb9528]

Exactly like ur telling me a record label would rather invest shit tons of money into a literal human clone over collecting that posthumous album cheque? Look at michael jacksons, aaliyahs, selenas and tupacs estates... theres no way.

[@sangsterxx1897]

@@zebb9528 exactly, artist's albums and unreleased material becomes way more valuable after death, the whole thing is so stupid, I can't believe some people are full on convinced it's true 😭

[@EternalDreamer1000]

I think that her only fault was to change her appereance so drastically after UMS, people were accostumed around a certain idea of her and to see her become suddenly this blonde girl with a pink hair extension was too much to digest back in the day. Taylor Swift changed so many times music style and appereance, but she did it in a more subtle way, in an album she would've add a song that would fit the genre of the next one (like in RED with those more poppy sound) so when 1989 come out people were more accepting and open towards that, also her lyricism didn't got worse it was just different while with Avril theres still a lot of lacking regarding that area and her best album in terms of that is still Let Go, with a few exception every now and then! After all those years if fans that grew up with you relate more to an album that came out in 2002 written by a teenager there is a problem. Of course the cloned thing is stupid and unfair

[@sangsterxx1897]

@@EternalDreamer1000 I mean it's not really her fault or problem that people had an idea of her and thought she was gonna stay that way. I mean yeah there were gonna be people who didn't like the change due to how drastic it was but at the end of the day, she has a right to change as drastically as she wants and she shouldn't feel pressured to stay the same because a bunch of strangers want her to. But that's just my take on it

[@canthinkofauser_name]

they only do this to women. she grew up, she’s not gonna be 18 forever.

[@thisisfakegucci]

they did it to mark zuckerburg too

[@cheshirerose2001]

@@thisisfakegucci Beyoncé and Paul McCartney as well

[@thisisfakegucci]

@@cheshirerose2001 wait really?? 😭😭😭

[@cheshirerose2001]

@@thisisfakegucci Yeah there is apparentley a dumb theory that Beyonce died in 2000 and was replaced by a clone it's stupid and makes no sense. I think it's another ridiculous theory that got big because of Shane, his reasoning was get this she smiled less in her photos after 2000. I will never understand those theories tbh

[@thisisfakegucci]

@@cheshirerose2001 LMFAOOOOOOOOO Shane used to always gossip omg

[@norijean3279]

She was more of tomboy as a teen, and then she was all girly, all pink, sweeter voice and silly pop songs. I think that got people confused. Her public persona changed.

[@otakutoongamer5616]

Funny how times have changed, now changing is a MUST in the industry (Taylor, Katy, Xtina)

[@otakutoongamer5616]

@Madden 07 Soundtrack Fan Account [Norma Jean AOTY] Though I disagree, I know many people who also share that take. It’s what happens when you change, some fans leave and new fans come.

[@bishimbareu]

silly pop songs? you think that using pink clothes is equivalent to being pop? Her third album is the heavier album of her carreer, it was just the aesthetic that was pink, which made her seem too pop, but girlfriend sounds more like a rock song than complicated or I'm with you. Actually her first album was very pop, her only rock singles in that album were losing grip and skater boy

[@1hcc994]

I was just like Avril when I was younger I hated the girly look until I became more comfortable with it now as an adult I dress very feminine and very masculine depending on the day. Imo it’s more fun.

[@harriet.z]

@@1hcc994 same here. I’ve grown out of the “I am the cool girl eww I hate pink and girly things”. Liking feminine and glamorous things make me just as happy as liking really cool androgynous things. :)

[@nesscr92]

Us fans couldn’t believe she was starting to write lyrics SO BAD that the only logical explanation was that she was an impostor lmao

[@reassimilate668]

Were they ever good?

[@nesscr92]

@@reassimilate668 Yes they were, her albums Let Go and Under My Skin are lyrical masterpieces 👌

[@stephencroft1612]

@Madden 07 Soundtrack Fan Account [Norma Jean AOTY] she was only 19 let her live also her lyrical skills shine on head above water

[@blairturner139]

@Madden 07 Soundtrack Fan Account [Norma Jean AOTY] yet they were hits Where's yours

[@StaciaVideo]

That's because at the time she worked with other people and she was not writing much, mostly changing some lyrics or adding to them. But since goodbye lullaby she started to write songs herself more often. And in the TBDT she just worked with Dr. Luke and everyone knows now that he's a bad person and bad producer and cheesy songwriter. You can easily find this information from the people who worked with her at the time. Also it's just logical because since GL her lyrics became more personal and more about herself and her life.

[@Butterfly-ql4pg]

People are allowed to not like Avril's current style and direction, but speculating on someone else's mental health just because you've fallen out love with their music is just gross

[@jnthnofficial]

this is interesting because I mainly grew up with the "new" Avril tunes, so songs like "when you're gone" "what the hell" "smile" and "alice." So I was confused when people were talking about a clone lol

[@dannyrivera2733]

Honestly I love the “new” Avril stuff like Goodbye Lullaby and The Best Damn Thing honestly

[@cheshirerose2001]

@@dannyrivera2733 UMS will always be my favorite Avril album but I still love her stuff after UMS -The Best Damn Thing is very nostalgic for me. I love the vibe and aesthetic . I has some of my favorite songs of hers -Goodbye Lullaby is pretty good (it’s my second favorite album of hers) - Her self titled even though her worst song is on that album it has some really good songs -HAW very underrated album I Fell In Love With The Devil is one of my favourite songs of hers -Love Sux brings me back to lots of early 2000s pop punk and it was a blast hearing those songs live

[@nicoleevonnegalan2660]

I love her self name title is when I started listening to her

[@nicoleevonnegalan2660]

Jojo was 12 when she joined

[@braziliansimon2737]

@@cheshirerose2001 gosh ikr? UMS is the best, no one cant prove me the opposite, its very nostalgic for me

[@fintanbochra]

Another certified hood classic

[@laylamia]

Avril was such an icon her story of people not accepting the fact that because she started out so young they had to accept major changes during her life was all wrapped in a conspiracy theory rather than just controversy

[@brandelynnefreleng7597]

As a big Avril fan, mostly of her ballads, it annoys me because the rock to pop transfer is the “evidence” for this theory but her ballads are still relatively similar. “I’m With You” and “Head Above Water” were released around 15 years apart and they have a similar feel. As do her ballads in between. Those are the through line. Not the rock to pop singles that were pushed by labels.

[@StephALowry29]

Head Above Water is about her fighting Lyme Disease.

[@AA-pk9ur]

Why is it that when we see differences in Avril’s face it’s, “OMG THAT’S HER CLONE!!!”, as if she didn’t debut as a teenager who hadn’t grown into her features yet, and plastic surgery for singers isn’t a common practice?

[@angeljensen8242]

yeah, I don't think she has a clone she's just grown up we all have changed

[@musicreversed1113]

People act like she completely changed over a night, when in fact changes took place gradually during the Under My Skin era. She still had the same look/aesthetics at the start, but then she started dying her hair blonde and wearing skirts from time to time.

[@leti9130]

Avril has such an unique voice, and I don't think it's easy to copy. This theory is so silly but also funny to me lmao

[@Ho3e]

She grew up, plain and simple. She's still the shy and reserved Avril we know in 2002 but more media trained since she's been in the public for 20 years. Moreover, your fashion aesthetics changes as you age, hence she outgrew all the skater punk aesthetic in Let go, or her gothic aesthetic in UMS, or even the prep school rocker chick in TBDT.

[@BrenAquino]

Y'all should totally check out her recent album "Love Sux". It's a digestible pop rock with amazing vocals and somewhat fun lyrics. ❤️💋

[@cristhianmontoya6648]

Yes!! Awesome tracks on the album.

[@Scor_cat]

I listened to the whole thing in one go on a ride home. Some of the tracks sounded a little bit samey, but overall it's a good album. I personally think it's pretty good and lots of fun.

[@tunelowplayslow]

It's really fun to listen to that album while doing the running man and the Roger rabbit dances. Try it- so fun!!!

[@MrMikeInverse]

Very well said. When I was 16 I would only wear black clothes, had 4 piercings and listen to rock mostly (and Avril 😅). Now I am an adult, I changed my point of view, I listen to a lot of genres of music and dress differently, I am still the same person but just evolved haha.

[@andrevalverde9057]

iirc the original website that spread this theory was a hs/college project about how easy it was to convince ppl of conspiracies online

[@lucaspinheiro8436]

this theory started as a joke here in brazil (like the sia beysement story) but for some reason it turned into all of this and it really doesn't make any sense

[@EmyN]

Que essas duas conspirações começaram no Brasil? 😱

[@rao803]

What is the sia beysement story?

[@lucaspinheiro8436]

@@rao803 the one about sia being held hostage in beyonce's basement to write her songs

[@shadyjoanneboots]

I didn't know that the origin of this rumor was people saying she died because she unalived herself due to her grandfather's passing... Now that's just messed up. Before I knew this I thought this conspiracy was kind of funny due to the absurdity of it, but now it's just gross to think about.

[@Angi3_6]

I’ve been a fan since Let Go. Do people forget that she was like 15 or 16 years old at the time??? She was a kid, and people really expect her to not grow and mature at all with the passage of time. As a 3rd grader, I thought 15/16 was pretty adult already, however, I’ve grown and mature since then and have realized that you are still a kid at that age.

[@epm_8896]

She was 17-18

[@rell4474]

I get that. but HOW is 'hello kitty' growing and maturing. her old stuff was actually more mature compared to that!

[@Angi3_6]

@@epm_8896 That’s still pretty young.

[@Angi3_6]

@@rell4474 growing up doesn’t mean you can’t be silly or have fun anymore.

[@braziliansimon2737]

@@rell4474 love how you guys pick ONE song

[@asapling]

Almost every celebrity has a clone theory for some reason. I have no idea why people would make these theories maybe some people think people can't change or smth.

[@briv2403]

Idk about the clone theory but why do a lot of these celebs look so dead in the eyes. Just look at a picture of your favorite celebrity when they first got famous then compare it to a picture in the present day. Just look really closely at the eyes

[@featheryfemme]

@@briv2403 Fame takes a toll on people. Ever wonder why so many of them die young or end up addicted to something?

[@briv2403]

@@featheryfemme yeah Hollyweird is dark that’s why. People think it’s all conspiracy

[@asapling]

@monochrome I remember I came across one of those videos claiming that a certain celebrity was trans (I forgot who) and, out of nowhere they showed a video of a sex change.

[@luciicares4you563]

She didn't d!e or anything. My theory is that she grew up and went through therapy maybe, my non theory is facts: she literally grew up and maybe got surgery or just grew up and changed, thats all. She isn't 16 anymore and not emo and being goth or whatever, ofc she changed that was years ago jeez. she is grown just let her live lol.

[@cheshirerose2001]

THANK YOU! That’s why that theory always annoyed me It makes zero sense Plus do they really think they could easily find someone who looks and sounds exactly like her?

[@luciicares4you563]

@@cheshirerose2001 yeah fr!! honestly they should just leave her alone

[@cheshirerose2001]

@@luciicares4you563 I blame Shane Dawson for being the reason this dumb theory got big (granted I have heard of it before). I feel like it's just people who are finding an excuse to hate on her music post UMS

[@angeljohansson730]

i think people just miss the teen she was and want to keep that perception of her in a box as a comfort mechanism

[@somber087]

for sure. Shes always known as the rebellious 17 yr old who wore spikes and neckties. Now that shes grown out of that phase, and has changed people made up this theory. Very dumb

[@gingerz2202]

I love Avril Lavigne her hyped died down after her second she still alive I’m glad she’s and amazing song writer she one of my punk pop hero ain’t no pop punk album touching let go

[@Ho3e]

@Madden 07 Soundtrack Fan Account [Norma Jean AOTY] I absolutely agree. Let Go barely is a pop punk album, just because Sk8er boi is there doesn't automatically mean the album is pop punk. I'd say Let Go is a touch of country with a mix of pop and alt

[@AntiStraightMaleSociety]

@Madden 07 Soundtrack Fan Account [Norma Jean AOTY] Let Go is the best PUNK POP ALBUM Go cope Karen

[@AntiStraightMaleSociety]

@Madden 07 Soundtrack Fan Account [Norma Jean AOTY] Wikipedia says otherwise, cope envious

[@dannizinn6477]

I've been an Avril fan since I was like 8 and now I'm 28. I've like every musical direction and style she has experimented with and that's totally okay.

[@gayspunchbop]

avril lavigne used to be my absolute fave singer during my middle school "rebellion" phase, i used to relate to her lyrics a lot and it always bugged me SO much whenever i'd bring her up in a convo both irl and on the internet and the first thing i'd get asked about was this silly theory... I still follow her a bit nowadays and i'm glad she never really seemed that bothered about the theory, but still to me as a fan it was so frustrating hearing people saying that she was dead cause she meant so much to me back then and it made me really sad lol

[@queenstixxzz]

Or she changed.....like we all do. In my mid-late teens I wore bondage pants (tripp) dark tshirts, and black tutu's.... I don't now at 30. It doesn't mean I was replaced by a clone.

[@featheryfemme]

Hmmm, sounds like something a clone would say...

[@jackier.3246]

This theory started in a blog by a fan here in Brazil as a joke, I remember when he said that he was surprised the American fans was really believing in it and even Avril was aware of this joke .. I remember going to this blog to laugh at Americans fans.. good times, miss the old internet

[@nickmendes7479]

I always say this: she didn't change that fast! If you notice her first album she started off being that angsty tomboy wearing baggy pants, second album she started incorporating hints of skirts and a little pink (see He Wasn't) but still tomboyish and third, she embraced that pink and became now "girly".

[@heath4222]

Another thing worth mentioning is she recently re-released and recorded her debut studio album (which includes several unreleased tracks). Including her rendition of “Breakaway” which was latter passed to Kelly Clarkson. Although the release was to coincide with the 20 year anniversary. I can’t help but believe this was used to display her career evolution and go back to her roots. In a way to seemingly bite back at this overran conspiracy.

[@lilianaamaldonado]

Just subscribed to you because you actually did your research instead of doing what other KZbinrs, using this conspiracy theory to get views. Thank you for speaking about this.

[@babya9929]

This theory seems like a joke that went too far

[@djtenzen]

Ok #1, cosmetic enhancement in Hwood is as common as getting your hair styled. It’s a part of everyone’s life here, famous or otherwise. #2, I stan “Hello Kitty” and I’m really impressed to know she wrote all the bubble gum hits as well. #3, can you please do a vid about the Lindsay Lohan conspiracy? Your work is awesome.

[@djdct4]

I mean the blog that came up with the theory was a Brazilian blogger who admitted that he came up with the theory to prove how gullible the Internet was. They made a bunch of different theories about celebrities that one just happen to stick.

[@hiraise9792]

i havent seen anyone talk abt love sux so i just wanted to say that i rly enjoyed that album. it’s obviously not the greatest piece of work ever but it’s enjoyable and it is one of my most-played albums this year. my favs on the album are love sux, bite me, and love it when you hate me :)

[@williameyelash8053]

Me too ! I think avalanche is awesome

[@NikkiWiley]

Why would a person want to spend the rest of their life pretending to be someone else, makes no sense at all 🙄

[@tunelowplayslow]

Ask billy shears. He doesn't seem to mind.

[@confessionsdisneyfan8169]

She’s the real Avril she grew up 😭💕

[@BaddieBarbie]

she's 37 years old now I dont understand people they expect her to dress and act like she did when she was 17 like come on

[@Ilikefrogs..]

Avril is literally just an NLOG who grew up. People change 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@inukimekoinukimeko]

Thank you for this!!

[@yuriperez1221]

Ok, so, in many kinds of conspiracy theories like this one (Paul Mccartney, for example), people tend to find "hidden messages" in the lyrics. In fact, there is no hidden message, people just get random parts of the song, take them out of the context of the full lyrics and frame them into their own theories. If you get the remaining lyrics of Avril Lavigne's song, "Together", they say: When I'm alone I feel so much better And when I'm around you I don't feel Together It doesn't feel right at all Together Together we've built a wall Together Holding hands we'll fall Hands we'll fall This has gone on so long I realize that I need Something good to rely on Something for me The lyrics obviously talk about someone who just fell detached from her significant other and is trying to focus more on herself. The lie she is living is a relationship that just does not exist anymore because they built "walls". That's all. And you can use the same logic to debunk absolutely ALL collected evidence on Beatles lyrics about Paul McCartney's supposed death. You can't just isolate random parts of a song and say they mean something on their own. They are part of a larger context.

[@isathemonica]

i'm brazilian and this theory is created by us. the writer admitted that this is a creepypasta. thank u.

[@jalennelson6821]

A simple DNA test would solve this issue, right?

[@zhouyi1933]

No. Clones have the same DNA.

[@jennas6846]

@@zhouyi1933 well the original theory was that she was replaced by simply a doppelgänger, not a clone. the doppelgänger theory seems more realistic considering there’s no known ways to clone a human as of right now.(not saying i believe it, just saying it’s more realistic and logical)

[@tylerhackner9731]

She’s grown up that’s all

[@jalennelson6821]

I ‘get’ why that conspiracy would come about. It’s when she was at her absolute peak. It’s an iconic era and for her to suddenly not be relevant and not have the same exact persona, it really is something sudden. Personally I think if they said she died after 2007 when I really first remember hearing about her then I would think it would be more popular as I believe it was her last major album release.

[@BG12sofia]

Ugh, people are so gullible and believe everything they read on the internet. It's obvious that Avril is a vampire. That's why she's so pale, doesn't seem to age, avoids sunlight and has songs named Bite Me and Here's to Never Growing up. 🤪 All jokes aside, after losing Chester Bennington, one of my all-time favorite musicians, to suicide, this theory irks me (Avril is also one of my favorite singers).

[@sn98886]

The fact that people weren’t saying this about Miley Cyrus in 2013 is WILD.

[@AndromanKaya]

This meme won't die and it's not funny or interesting at all, if i was Avril I'd never read the comments on any of her shit because it hasn't gone away for years.

[@elizrebezilmadommdo1662]

If this clone theory is true, why wouldn't they do this with other very famous artists who have died young, like Kurt Cobain, Selena, Amy Winehouse, etc.? Well duh! It's because they don't have to. People still listen to, buy, and stream their music. In fact, them dying brings a lot of attention and encourages people to look these people up, who they initially might've not listened to before. Plus, they don't have to do the work of helping them make and release new music. If Avril actually did die, the label would make TONS of money off of her, and still would even today. It wouldn't be a smart business rule to have to pay someone else to pretend to be Avril and then also have her risk their image by allowing her to give off obvious clues (like writing Melissa on her hand or writing certain lyrics that could give it away). It just makes no sense to me. Even if they did clone her, they'd have to spend more money, spend more time working to train the clone to act exactly like Avril, do the work of making new albums, and be very careful to make sure no clues of their plan slips out. Why bother?

[@tunelowplayslow]

How do you explain Paul McCartney then

[@elizrebezilmadommdo1662]

@@tunelowplayslow Don't tell me that you guys think Paul is a "clone" too...

[@tunelowplayslow]

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 clone as in he was manufactured with DNA from Paul? No. I don't think that.

[@TheMoonGoddd]

Saw her in the Shania Twain documentary on Netflix. Definitely was her I have a photographic memory. Plus I never forget a face. ☮️💙🖤💜🕯

[@BombshElle_7]

Thank you for calling this out. I'm such a fan of Avril and think this conspiracy theory is beyond stupid. It disrespects and discredits her talent, growth, achievements, and life. She's NOT dead. She's a survivor!

[@villachan]

The funny thing about it all is that this a rumor that can be traced back to its origin: the guy who created it decided to do so to prove that people on the internet believe in pretty much anything. I saw the original website with his "research", how it was based on "facts", and the whole thing was so well put together (although the design of it all was clearly basic af, something like a 00's teen would do), that it looked like something the person truly believed. It was a niche thing among Brazilian teens and it's crazy how far it has come. He has come clean about it many times to express the irony of it all.

[@MONET8iAM]

The things that people take seriously on the internet amaze me, especially when it’s so detailed. Even when they are knowingly trolling, they take it so far, like blaming everything on Queen Nija. That girl is probably exhausted lol. They also said that Gucci Mane is a clone, joke or not, just be happy that the man made some changes in his life for the betterment of himself.

[@spokeforhours]

This theory was started in a Brazilian forum and the guy later made a blogspot, which was still up the last time I checked. The guy himself said the theory was false and he just made it up to see if it would spread. He must’ve based it on Paul McCartney’s theory (also that he died and the others hid clues on St Pepper’s). It used to be pretty niche to the Brazilian fandom, there’s even a very only MTV Brazil interview where they ask her about it and she hadn’t heard it by then.

[@chandrascorner8780]

Never knew this rumor about Avril. I do think this about Dave Chapelle though. Seeing him from his show to when he got jacked and resurfaced, he just looks different.

[@samuelrestrepo4482]

I've seen so many theories surrounding the storyline of Avril's career and life, it became so popular that although its sounds insane it became convincing to the public, specially since years later manipulation on behalf of managements became way more aparent

[@dannikris3696]

Tbh, I was just sad she wasn’t making songs like her first 2 albums. Those albums helped me find who I was growing up. I really do miss the “old” Avril.

[@heather3286]

Completely agree! Whether there's truth to the conspiracy or not, I [personally] like her first album the best. To me, most of her work after "Under My Skin" seemed so similar and verged far from where she got her start. That's just my opinion, though.

[@AGreyAlien]

She just isn't dealing with those experiences anymore so she doesn't write about it is what I think. I am going to be 28 in a few weeks and I am definitely not the same 10 years ago. So now fast forward 20 years. I'm sure you'd be different!

[@andyjacobs5797]

If I’m not mistaken too she won a singing contest in Canada, at an early age, singing country music to meet Shania Twain.

[@felipegarcia487]

Guys,that "theory" origins is an Brazilian Blog, that did it as a joke. Then Brazilians pop heads made it a meme, and used it for yearrssssssssss. Like, everybody knew it was a joke, a meme. Ain't nobody believed that shit. Then, suddenly, it started to go viral internationally, I think buzzfeed made an article about it, then it blew up Lol. Just like the joke that Sia is trapped in Beyoncé basement Lol Brazilian memes are next level . And it's even funnier that when it blows up internationally, people actually believe that people think this is true. LMAO.

[@kammore6209]

Didn’t the guy who created the theory literally admit to making it up? 💀

[@idontknowwhattoputhere.]

thats true, and melissa doesnt exist either

[@Onyx765]

I heard that the fan who originally started the rumor in the first place has apologized for creating this ridiculous theory so hopefully that will put the whole Melissa Vandella thing to rest. Also, random sidenote, Avril wasn't wrong when she said that her best stuff was the album tracks. "Anything But Ordinary" from Let Go is an underrated masterpiece that everyone should hear!🎸

[@druec2863]

I was never a believer of the theory but I agree that her music started to take a turn at some point. After finding out she was under RCA, it makes more sense. She didn't have as much creative control which can really be stifling for an artist who is all about songwriting and the image their music portrays. Now that I'm an adult, with a much more varied music taste, I've made peace with it because artists have the right to change. I still regard her earlier work as my favorite and will still have that nostalgia

[@donjai9366]

I would like to see a video about Missy Elliott & her career & impact on hip hop/rap. I would also like to see a video of Brandy & her career & her impact on r&b music & her Full Moon / Afrodisiac Era & why Brandy is an important figure in r&b

[@alexanderescobar6891]

Here for this! Especially Brandy because she’s the blueprint.

[@EternalDreamer1000]

She never changed in my opinion, she went through some minor differencies between eras but that was it, her lyricism are getting worse and you can see that in Love Sux, she could've write those boy bashing songs in a more mature way instead she seems like a caricature of her old self (and her debut album wasn't that shallow) so no, she wasn't cloned or replaced she simply become less passionate about her work in my opinion and you can see that in live performances where she always seems bored or forced (and that was even prior to her gettin lyme disease) her first three record would always be her best work, in term of lyricism and everything and i doubt that she could ever return to that success if she doesn't consider some major changes to her music style and lyricism. Lets not forget this is just my opinion.

[@AGreyAlien]

Agree was at her concert in Cleveland, Ohio for MGK's tour and she looked bored to death.

[@imaginist96]

People who believe this shit don't even keep up with Avril and never have lol. They always get the timelines wrong too. Like at 3:08, that first picture is not from 1999....it's 2002. 1999 she had very short blonde hair. and the "2016" photo is actually from 2006. Plus, no one ever says it's Melissa in the Under My Skin era music videos, and those were filmed in 2004/2005. I could go on and on about how stupid it all is but I am so sick of hearing about it. Leave the poor girl alone.

[@KendyJ929]

What a fun coincidence! I just got thru binge watching a show called Inside Job on Netflix and there's a cloning room in the building and in there you can see many famous people's clones and Avril was there. I cracked up.

[@henryparker9670]

The more I watched these videos: idols have little to no creative control. They're playing along to someone's else's image... and it's weird cos I love some of those songs and creative decisions but like it also takes away the artists realism. It's like we never really knew some of them... we just see what they were pushed to be.

[@joshgriffith8836]

I’ll always be listening to everything Avril drops

[@tunelowplayslow]

Not unless you have a Ouija board and a quiet room mf

[@kuromikendall]

The more you love your decisions, the less you need others to love your decisions. ♡

[@cristalblackstar8177]

Madonna,Michael Jackson,Freddy Mercury,Beyonce,Coldplay and The Beatles themself have change over the years for their art. In every single album,live performance,music videos theres a lot of work behind to deliver the public a brand new phase. Its call artistic develoment.

[@oc6897]

The problem is she's looked the same and had the same voice for 20 years

[@marcela5250]

how is that even a problem?? lmao

[@oc6897]

@@marcela5250 that's the problem with the theory

[@AFFTFOMSICHTS]

In 2003 they played complicated every other song on the radio. I swear it was the most over played song on the radio in my memory that that even 19 years year later I can’t listen to the song without the immediate thought “omg not this song again!!”

[@dgreyman2096]

People also point out that her pitch changed. Your voice doesn't generally get higher as you get older. Not saying I believe this nonsense, but that is one of the points I have heard brought up by people who perpetuate this conspiracy.

[@somber087]

She was purposely making a deep voice to fit her persona in 2002 thats why she sounds different

[@fanstastic83]

I think personally that her second album was her best work, but my favourite song is Tomorrow from the first album.

[@missbellaiza]

Finally!

[@SanchiraVanity]

One of my best friends looks identical to Avril, even in high-school she did, and her face has changed the same way Avril's has, and I know no one has replaced by Dallas

[@dragondavvid]

It’s funny if it’s a joke but if people actually believe it… that’s just sad..

[@mayokunomitogun199]

Yes

[@Franniiv3]

I was only disappointed that the video for 'Happy Ending' wasn't set in a Massage Parlour.

[@mewesquirrel6720]

It's so rude!! Also they say that about Paul McCartney too. No matter big or small still no respect 🙄

[@otakutoongamer5616]

This is undoubtedly THE POP CONSPIRACY THEORY, I know a lot of people who aren’t even Avril fans that either believe or at least have heard from the theory. Theories like Miley Cyrus's "We Can’t Stop" was a political distraction or "Katy Perry is Jonbenet Ramsey" have nothing on this one.

[@Lexx1192]

Finally! Some sense!!!

[@MrMikeInverse]

Hey, I see Avril, I click, I like. 💜

[@hazeeqrazak]

People saying she a clone,changing styles,different handwritings...like Do they even know what plastic surgery really is??

[@lma90909]

Thank you for this vídeo. This theory is so stupid, no one stays the same forever, I'm not the same person I was when I was a teen. People need to accept that Avril is allowed to explore other musical genres and styles.

[@nacuyong]

bruh people would be saying i’m a clone as well because i changed so much lmao