The PROBLEMS with Pewdiepie's Art Advice (DRAW EVERY DAY!) || SPEEDPAINT + COMMENTARY

[@DuchessCelestia]

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[@BenjaminAlternate]

As Ethan Becker once said (I think): "Practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes improvement."

[@desvile_]

ETHAN BECKER!!

[@ElvisRocking1]

practice makes improvement as well. Not everyone will practice "good practice"

[@potatopotayto8332]

ethan becker and sinix design are so important for the art community i rlly can't understate it they'd be like a "good cop bad cop" duo lol

[@QueenCami_123]

”practice makes progress”

[@prxttypoison]

then wtf does "perfect practice" mean 😭

[@lawnmower16]

The problem with "just practice" and "draw every day" isn't that they're bad advice, it's that they're vague advice

[@Fishnberg]

The thing is, you also have to be aware of missing points, and how to practice. A artist is also a crafty person, its importent to find the answer to your question.

[@McJorneil]

Right, so these are the steps I was given to remedy that vague advice. Hopefully it helps someone who reads this. 1) Gather at least 100 reference images of artwork that you like or desire to be able to create yourself. 2) Start by picking out one of those references and breaking it down into basic shapes. Draw those shapes to the best of your ability. Repeat this exercise with more references until you feel like you've got it down or you're not feeling challenged enough. 3) Next, learn how to use the Bounding Box method for drawing your references. These exercises can really improve your skill at "reading" a reference and understanding the shape, negative space, and angles. I'd suggest doing around 20-30 of them, going for more and more complicated references as you progress. 4) Next, practice how to draw your references without the bounding box as accurately as you possibly can with as much detail as you can. By this point, you're combining everything you've learned from Steps 1-3 and pushing them further. Once you can perfectly (or as close to perfect as you can get) replicate a reference in detail, you'll be at a whole new level. You might think copying is lame, but after doing this exercise 20-30 times I think you might find you're getting quite good. 5) At this point, it's all pretty much down to you. Gather more references for whatever it is you're wanting to draw better. If it's space ships, gather space ship references. If it's swords, gather sword references. If it's animals, gather animal references. If you want to draw people, you might look into gesture drawing and anatomy practice. Whatever the case, you should be able to replicate what you're looking at fairly well. Your brain will do most of the heavy lifting anyhow. The most important thing you should know is to truly get better at drawing, you must first develop the habit for drawing. Without the habit for drawing, you will not practice enough. So you're going to want to set up a time & place for you to practice drawing every single day for at least a few minutes. That's enough time to do Step 2 exercises, but you'll need to set aside more time for the others. You might not think a few minutes of practice a day makes much of a difference, but you'd be surprised what happens after you've done it for a week or two. It's inevitable that you will improve. Just don't overwhelm yourself and ease into the process. It doesn't need to be super hard, but you also don't want to feel like you're not being challenged.

[@britishmushroom]

Yeah that makes sense, I use to say this when people would ask me this question but now I would ask them what they want to improve on then answer based on that.

[@avivastudios2311]

Yup.

[@huy-Nnguyen-H]

@@britishmushroom thank you for your advice

[@catsupy]

Tangent here, but I think you should be really proud of your speed-paint in this one! The shape of her face and position of her eyes are perfect, and you've improved A LOT especially over the past year! I know you've had trouble with faces, but this work right here shows you that honest and calculated efforts does make for marked improvement! I feel like this is your best work! Fantastic job :)

[@lavndvrrart]

I know right! The colors/shading of the hair and eyes is also so pretty!!!

[@defaulted9485]

There are times when someone's drawing made us feels like eclipsed or flashbanged by its sheer majesty. That image is definitely one of it.

[@Tangermusic]

NO SQUARESPACE??

[@bettyunicorn6132]

good

[@BenjaminAlternate]

you are right! This feels weird...

[@CloyMush]

A sign the world will end

[@choesta]

TANGER?!?!?!?????????????

[@averysmith9943]

Not only that but it seems like Cafe Soleil is no longer a channel member! I have no idea who they are but I’m so used to them being listed first that them not being mentioned feels uncanny.

[@L0rar3]

I think an often overlooked learning EVERY ARTIST needs to go through is to find out what they actually like/want to do/are passionate about As a traumatized autistic it took me 22 years to find that out and only NOW I'm able to practice the right things. When you find out what you wanna do, the road to it becomes clearer. That's why I'm telling beginners that the first steps should be: Experiment A LOT, find out what you like/don't like, practice the fundamentals bc you're gonna need those anyway.

[@newcreationkoi4577]

I had a teacher in school who said “practice doesn’t make perfect, it makes habit. Don’t perfect bad habits” -be intentional about what you’re doing and understand why you need to do it that way.

[@galatunia]

"Drawing every day isn't feasible for everyone." FINALLY a video that says this. People have to remember PewDiePie knew he was going to get paid for that challenge. That challenge was a trend happening on KZbin for a while and he picked up on it. Now I'm sure he genuinely did want to learn how to draw, but that doesn't change he *knew* he'd get views, which meant he *knew* he'd get ad revenue from the videos he'd make about it. In other words: he was paid to learn how to draw. The rest of us don't have that opportunity. People also forget he was originally a graphic designer who took part in photoshop competitions before he went all in on KZbin. So he wasn't a true beginner. He already had a deep understanding of a lot of concepts that transfer to drawing. Favorite video on this topic, thanks a bunch for chiming in!

[@foxesofautumn]

Yeah, this. It’s really disingenuous for him to pretend he’s suddenly developed these skills out of nowhere. Never been a fan of this guy and that hasn’t changed with him moving into my area of interest.

[@bluwekabluwe]

I mean I agree that drawing every day can cause burnout, but I don't agree that its an opportunity the rest of us don't have. Like even working 8 hour days and sleeping 8 hours should still give room. Not that having the room means you must use it, just that it can be used.

[@bluwekabluwe]

@@foxesofautumn Not really pretending, given he literally developed the skills. Said his goal was to draw anime girls, succeeded, what more was he supposed to do?

[@galatunia]

@@bluwekabluwe **Getting paid to learn how to draw** is an opportunity most of us don't have.

[@kunilsen2519]

What? you can't find 10 minutes in your day to draw? You must really be busy, not even time to eat

[@CRT_sRGB]

A good example of how being good at _doing_ something is distinct from being good at _explaining_ how and why. PewDiePie is probably still growing his own awareness of his new skills. He'll likely get to the point someday when he can see his actions in perspective. Anyway, his story's been interesting to follow, and it's enhanced greatly by commentary from artists such as yourself. Nice work!

[@RailRide]

I learned on some other art channel whose name escapes me, about something called the "expert's blind spot". In a nutshell, once you become really good at something, most of what you do to achieve that task is automatic to the point you no longer think about _how_ you do it. This introduces problems with teaching that task since most of what your "student" needs to know is being glossed over since you yourself never have to think about how _you_ do it anymore. This gave rise to a phrase I like to use that goes _"Knowing how to do something is a completely different animal from knowing how to _*_teach_*_ someone how to do it"_ .

[@CRT_sRGB]

@@RailRide The quote at the end puts it well. It further seems to me that some practitioners will never be first-rate teachers no matter how good they get at their craft. Teaching is a demanding activity by itself, anyway. In PewDiePie's instance, he's basically just started his journey, so it would actually be shocking if he had an uncanny understanding of his situation.

[@AuroraPaintBrush4444]

I think a topic that is stupidly argued about... References. References have improved my art so much. Mirrors, photos, figures like Body Chan. I've stumbled across Disney reference photos. They are amazing! Alice in Wonderland, Tinkerbell and so on. I seriously want a full book of Disney reference photos. But there are so many people/idiots that argue that references are "cheating" Historical artists have made crazy contraptions for mirror tracing and other references tools. TLDR: I would suggest a video about references.

[@marikothecheetah9342]

Yes! No one just learns how to draw from imagination. At art school you draw from references and you are said to draw from references. "But there are so many people/idiots that argue that references are "cheating"" - it only shows they know nothing about drawing.

[@huy-Nnguyen-H]

@@marikothecheetah9342 agree, many fools think that they always have to create new things, they think that copying and learning from others is shameful, while many successful individuals in this world have learned from others at least once.

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

He accidentally stumbled into the BEST way to follow this advise mostly by being BORED, and that's pretty on point for a lot of that guy's entire persona.

[@bluwekabluwe]

Have fun, get lucky, have more fun, profit. Semi accurate to his life yeah.

[@Darth_Bateman]

tbh back when I drew I noticed something: When I drew every day, I wouldn't get any better I'd take breaks and not draw for a few days and I out of nowhere got better. It's like. . . .Your subconscious will do the work for you if you give it time to take a break.

[@scarletsletter4466]

That’s how the brain forms connections. It’s similar to how if you lift weights in the gym it takes a few days to get stronger

[@FayN_]

just draw everyday is meant to build habit so that you can learn more. that's my understanding at least that's the whole point of pewdiepie video. you draw everyday and learn what you need during that time. it's not as simple as just draw whatever everyday it's the same like his gym advice. just do it everyday first, then you learn along the way with the fundamental and correct form. the most important thing for him is habits and that what he want for us to focus on first before learning fundamentals or even advance skills. . this is common missunderstanding when people say "just practice everyday" and even the one who give the advice is sometime also confusing his advice as well

[@MrCactuar13]

Going to the gym and learning correct forms and fundamentals along the way is good advice if you want to get yourself injured. That's such bad and dangerous advice I hope it's not something that pewdiepie actually said at one point. I think the general idea of building the habit is a good one, but you have to learn to how to build good habits otherwise you end up like Wimp Lo.

[@FayN_]

@@MrCactuar13 i think you miss my point yes he said that, bbut the context here is to make you comfortable and able to execercise consitently by doing small execercise like push up, running or lifting small weight. then after you can do it consistently , you can learn and do a bit more complicated exercise that need supervision. without habbit, that is very hard and you need to do it step by step. that is the point. im not saying you just start doing complicated workout right from the start and learn along the way as you build habbit. there is step by step for that . as for drawing, you just need yourself to make yourself comfortable to draw before doing complicated stuff and make yourself frustated. i didnt explain that in detail because i assume people would get it but here we go i guess. the context is building habbit.

[@jahiko184]

Yeah, the problem sometimes is they just tried to draw without trying learn anything or they make things too complicated for themselves, Pewdiepie only focus on trying to learn on one thing and that is being good at drawing anime girls, it didn't overwhelm him too much, he didn't let his bad drawing bothers him, he use it as a learning experience. Most artists who draw every day, tried too many things that it overwhelmed them and get tired off, then they complain on why they aren't good enough, it take patience to be good at something. I'm pretty sure Pewdiepie has drawing experience before, he probably regained his ability after he draw everyday considering he stop drawing a long time ago

[@MonkeyMonkeyMonkeyMonkeyMoo]

I was drawing so much that it landed me in the hospital. I wanted to practice and that caused me stress cause I wanted to improve and though I took break the burn out was extreme. So if you're going to practice drawing just do it for fun. I've giving up art for now because I am scared of it happening again.

[@marikothecheetah9342]

If I may: draw when you feel your best. If you doodle something and you make little to no mistakes - continue. If mistakes are every step on the way - put it away. Try another day. Take it easy. Your brain still works on your drawing skills even if you don't do it actively. Observe closely your surroundings for a while, think how you would draw it. This is also learning.

[@pauljs75]

Everyone else is discussing art practice, meanwhile I'm pondering how Miku can easily palm a basketball or play a Rachmaninoff Concerto without any problems.

[@CRT_sRGB]

The same reason she's looked 16 since the year 2007... she consumes nothing but vegetable juice! *Po Pi Po Pi Po, Po Pi Po!*

[@BenjaminAlternate]

Wait... as @Tangermusic pointed out... THERE IS NO SQUARESPACE! Who are you and what have you done with the Duchess?

[@timidwolf]

This reminds me of a recent Nerdforge video, 'Can I learn to draw in 100 hours'. Yes Hansi practiced a lot over a very short period of time BUT he was working from a plan that Martina had made for him which included various resources, techniques to practice and different challenges. So yes you CAN do it, but there is a lot more to it.

[@zack_feldman]

Thanks again! It’s true, practice needs to be defined, as does study for this to be effective. In addition, specific goals make it much easier to know what to practice and what direction to head in.

[@kurokura8379]

oohh i was waiting for you to talk about this for a while. excited to finish the video :D

[@BenjaminAlternate]

OH! (I'm towards the end of the video) Thanks for helping to take the angst off of pewdiepie by explaining his "practice" advice

[@Varsayek]

You're the reason I haven't given up on art. Thank you a ton 🙂

[@tcpratt1660]

About practice - Disney animator Don Graham, who taught a lot of artists about animation in the 1930's, opened his class with this statement: "Everyone has one hundred thousand bad drawings in them. The sooner you get those out of your system, the better." The person who noted this wrote that he was already into his third hundred thousands of bad drawings...but it's apparent that Chuck Jones (the person who noted Graham's words) did actually study and practice art with a passion, and that continuing practice and development of his skills very obviously showed in his professional work.

[@CJFrostthorn]

Been a while since I've visited your channel- but what a banger of a video to return to! Your analysis of why "just draw every day" is such terrible advice is so concise and precise that I'm not even going to bother explaining it to people anymore, I'll just link them this video ^^

[@justoneofthosedays]

love the miku fanart!

[@PutineluAlin]

I can draw a circle every day but after 100 days I can draw only, a perfect circle.

[@McJorneil]

I fell into this same trap. The trick is to practice drawing lots of other stuff.

[@Miralko314]

i think we can all conclude ground news kidnapped celestia from squarespaces basement

[@js3859]

I've never been this early before! I love your videos and listen to them while I work!🎉

[@Fafr]

Not related to the video, but the little sound at 0:44 actually made me so confused, Linux Mint uses the same sound for a notification and I thought I got one, took a while to realise

[@JoelTheParrot]

yooo miku speedpaint Gahhhh that art's so good!!! The cleanness, the colours, the stippling, I love how her hands aren't fully symmetrical and instead form a more organic heart hand shape, GRHAH it's so good!! This stuffs so much easier to appreciate seeing it be built over this time! Your information seems good too :)

[@CatfactsPW]

6:15 I had to re-listen to this part twice bc i kept getting distracted for how relatable the lineart attempts were.

[@ZarBluestar]

There’s an element to “draw every day” that I think is actually a massive piece of benefit addressed to specifically the “absolute beginners” Not as a sustainable regime, but as a way to build the initial foundations. The specific benefit that the video doesn’t touch is building familiarity with the tools and medium that they are using. It’s not about refining technique or “skills”, but the comfort level using the tools. Which, personally, is more important than any studies/fundamentals when you have zero experience. It’s like making the shift from traditional to digital art for the first time. It takes a lot of consistent practice with the tools you’re using to be comfortable enough using them to actually start utilizing them, instead of having them as a handicap

[@salt3685]

I think people can learn and improve in their own ways. Something that works well for one person might not work for another, and if someone shares their experience with you and it doesn’t work for you, that doesn’t make their experience “wrong” or less valid, just not for you. People are multifaceted, there’s no one true “trick” to getting better at anything, it’s just about figuring out what method that works best for you. At the end of the day, my biggest take away from his video was just that the best way to improve is to find what works for you and make sure you’re having fun because if you’re just miserably doing the same thing over and over you’re not going to get any better. Try new things, experiment with different things, and go at whatever pace works best for you. I don’t think it’s actually that deep, he was just having fun.

[@Luludoodlez]

Wow this is the earliest I’ve ever been to one of your videos

[@MagdaLenaS2312]

same xD feels like I just came in the bakery right after they made the fresh batch of a delicious bread

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

I don't like Pewdiepie, but I think its cool to see someone progress their art like that, esspecially in such a small time frame.

[@EmilyBriar]

FINALLY SOMEONE EXPLAINS HOW HE ACTUALLY DID IT IN A WAY I UNDERSTAND!!! Thank you so much!!!!

[@m1kur1n54]

Holy crap I’m early! Don’t know if you’ll see this but I figured anyways I might as well just say how much I love your videos. I often ply them in the background while doing homework or drawing

[@HortayaBorzaya]

How did i not know about this until now

[@hollybrownvideos]

I think just focusing on what your bad at is what people should focus on. Things that helped me was focus on accuracy, and forced perspective. If you don’t know what your bad at, get an outsider’s critique.

[@kazuna_Endi]

Cute miku drawing

[@Logayy]

I like the advice of 'Draw everything every day' Which is a more fleshed-out version of the Draw Everyday advice. It's supposed to tell you that you should find references in real life and draw different things every day. So that you don't get stuck trying to draw one thing over and over.

[@waterworks_yes]

hey artists of youtube, what projects are you all working on? i’m doing a spread of my dnd character! feel free to reply and ramble about what you’re drawing :)

[@jeremyyates1026]

I'm mostly just following an art course by brad colbow. I stopped drawing for a long time and am going back to the fundamentals. I do want to start a comic eventually but that's a future project.

[@foxesofautumn]

I’m working on fanart of my D&D character too.

[@Squishybo]

I'm working on a tribute piece to Akira Toriyama and Dragon ball Z. I Hope you have fun with your dnd project :))))

[@larryhendrickson5377]

I remember when I came across that. I tried to be happy for him. I found it demotivating because I assume he has a more demanding job, he has a child, which leaves no excuses on my end. I try to tell myself everyone has their own journey, and one is not necessarily better than the other.

[@Rirashiskandar]

Why do I only see it at the end of the day when I'm done drawing hundreds of circles😂😭

[@MiyaMeniceX3]

I'm aiming to having an intermediate level of illustrating people and backgrounds so i can draw fake album covers for non-existent bands for fun and i'm only doing art as a hobby. I want the skills to draw what i want.

[@jasonpark1987]

The problem I’m facing right now is that not only that I get tired of trying to draw something different like simple lines and boxes, it’s my back will give out if I stay in one position too long, and I tend to lose track of time very easily. And I’ve been thinking about why I’m drawing; is that I wish to draw characters for my stories. Now I don’t really know what to focus on.

[@3lue0ne]

Personally when I wanted to start drawing more often, I rejected drawing every day because, 1) I didn't want to burnout, 2) I'd be really fast out of ideas for my drawings, 3) finishing a drawing everyday without any thoughts or conclusion won't make my art. I did an art cycle, I was finishing a drawing every 3 days, this way I was able to finish and polish it, I also was able to look at them more critically. My art cycle started in October 2023 and ended in February this year. Some of my drawings are more experimental 'cause I wanna try something new from time to time and learn something new eg. I wanted a drawing that'd be really focused on the background, so I drew, I'm glad that I tried it 'cause I learned some new things. I'm not proud of everything that I drew during that cycle 'cause some of those drawings were a bit rushed however I still tried a bunch of things like that background focused drawing or a monochrome drawing.

[@britishmushroom]

Younger artists would ask me that question a few years ago and I said the same thing, I never really knew how to answer that because technically that’s what I did I drew everyday for 7 years and with the knowledge grew overtime slowly but surely and even today I’m still learning to draw but honestly I still don’t know how to answer the question but I would say something different instead of just that.

[@Fluorite-Fox]

The way I practice is doing studies of animal anatomy and practicing drawing fullbody characters and practice drawing hands and body proportions because all those things are things I struggle to draw.

[@D_ain]

I used to to draw every day but found myself improving more by taking breaks more often. This only helps if you humbly pay attention to your mistakes. Also. Don’t try to finish your art in one day.

[@majormadbomber]

As a 1000% Self Taught Artist, I once viewed this fact as an accomplishment. Now it's something I regret. Don't hesitate to seek guidance if you think you need it.

[@knoginator]

"just practice" feels similar to saying "get gud." it feels dismissive to me

[@IAARPOTI]

Why did you change squarespace?

[@foxesofautumn]

Do you really mind? It’s kinda spooky that they’re literally everywhere.

[@TheobaldLeonhart]

I've been thinking about this a lot. Or more specifically, "draw every day" Like, I can do that for Inktober. I mean, I might do multiple prompts in one day, depending on my ideas for them. But I draw consistently But, that's because of two reasons 1. I already know what to draw (whatever the prompt is) 2. I already have all my references prepared But outside of that, I struggle to draw, even once a week Like today. I wanted to draw, even got stuff set up. But I just didn't have the energy to And I know. By putting it off more, I'll make it harder to go back to drawing. But I have mental health issues, that made stuff like motivation, hard to get/do

[@SmileyFace-Shu]

How do i improve anatomy? i need help

[@BenjaminAlternate]

I mean...no? But it works best or lesser for different kinds of people...I hope he makes more art videos or makes a side channel focused on art

[@randycarter7841]

I wanted to get mad but halfway through this video I was hit hard. I don't know how to ask the right questions. How do I get better? Is it anatomy, linework, proportions, style...

[@katarinadreams6955]

all my characters seem to suffer from same face syndrome so I want to study different face shapes at different angles. while I'm not going fully for the anime look, I am looking to create something a little more stylized

[@nstuff-f1d]

I wish I saw this before commenting on your last tier list but this is essentially what I was trying to say. That no advice is bad advice and it's all about whose taking it. Though I do want to point out something from my last comment that I personally feel like is overlooked. The people giving the advice don't know you who you are. Pewdiepie nor even Celestia know who they're talking to 100%. So, you should take their advice or anyone's advice, with a grain of salt. (meaning to sift through the garbage to find the gems and put in some actual effort to get better) People should actually cut them more slack because they're trying to give advice and information to someone based on facts that might not even be true. Despite the receiver desperately trying to get advice. (to say if they're even talking to them individually (for every newbie who has 1,000 exhausting questions)) Instead, you should take some initiative to see your own progression, not solely devote yourself to what others say or do. (not to deviate people who are actually trying but are still adhering no results) The only person who will ever know you better than you, is you. So take advantage of that.

[@alicejungdesign]

I did draw every Day for over a year. My goal was to get faster and draw more freely. I did it, but then Came the time when I stopped drawing because I feeled burned out and the drawings wheren't Good at all. 😅 so I would say don't forget to make Breakes.

[@Xyminti]

Out of pocket, but what is some good drawing tablets with screens 150-500. I have a m1 iPad my mother is letting me use, but it’s for her business so it’s not a permanent solution. Mouse drawing, I can’t do at all, always comes out looking like Voldemort met blender then microwaved. 😂 little much but u get my point. Top picks heard from friends or other would be nice & I hope da/night is going good.😄

[@sgtass1]

Man I practice every day and still suck. I follow tutorials, get real life references, draw, still garbage. I've tried to watch so many explanations on how Pewds got so good so fast, but even then I just can't

[@HenryBrown-ro7lk]

Nothing with wrong that. End of day. young/new people artist community including myself not going to get that be them as biggest art community to same level around world of earth 🌍. I think for lot fun and taking time. No matter how people complain/scary they're about learning drawing with regular pencils ,traditional paper sketch and even body type figures.

[@scarletsletter4466]

This is a good video & I respect your opinion but I think the right answer depends on the artist’s situation & goals. For a kid or hobbyist, I think “just draw what you like from either life or photo reference” is great advice. Learning to render shapes, forms, light/ shadow, textures, etc will occur no matter what subject you’re drawing (assuming you’re trying to represent it accurately). So if you like dogs, draw dogs. If you like architecture, draw that. For professionals, maybe it’s worth focusing on anatomy part of the time, environments, textures, life drawing, gesture, & so forth. But if doing gestures or studying anatomy makes you miserable, it’s not worth doing if it’s going to make you lose motivation. I’ve also heard the bad advice “don’t do masterpieces” and while this might be true for ultra beginners, it’s not true for most artists. There are some things you just can’t learn without doing fully rendered pieces. I do think you should do the 80/20 rule & recognize that the last 20% of the piece will take the vast majority of the time to polish, so it makes sense to set a time limit so you’re not spinning your wheels.

[@theonewhoasked2474]

Holy shoot im early

[@sjbishvsigvsugvs]

Lol i've never been this early

[@Hatsune-Miku_Fan]

Mikuuuuu

[@meijuta]

So basically just use ur brain and u get good

[@manawa3832]

i have the same problem as you. i will make a very good point but continue harping on it because i am afraid people listening are too stupid to understand without an overwhelming amount of analogies to assist them.

[@froggycolouring]

WHO IS THIS AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH CELESTIA WHERE IS SQUARESPACE??????????

[@cwn5]

(Insert thoughtful comment about the topic of art)

[@drendraleigh4722]

Commenting before watching here : What advice could he give that could be judged as wrong or right??? He's learning himself!! There's countless way to learn how to do art because no artist is the same anyway

[@Mh-gq7rs]

What are your comments after this huh

[@maple1139]

there is no magic to learning art. Draw, if it looks bad, fix it till you get it right

[@BombalurinaAI]

Pewdiepie is the only reason I started to draw in the first place. I make and sell AI art but he's inspired me to go in a different direction as far as how I make my content.

[@jadecantfindthispassword]

Correction: it isn’t you making those pieces, just selling them. It is good that you are going to make art genuinely. Pushing a bunch of buttons isn’t art, but designing what the buttons do is.

[@BombalurinaAI]

@@jadecantfindthispassword I will grant that 98% of the AI generated stuff out there is just a slot machine masking as art, nor do I call myself an artist so I can only speak for what I do and why people still come to me. I pose my scenes in VRchat or blender. I pre-draw the assets going into the image or use 3d assets to make the elements of the background/foreground. I avoid artists directly and strive to never copy another's idea or concept. I build the models myself and write the scripts. There is a reason why I've had hundreds of clients while there is thousands of "AI artists" trying to make their first sale. I also don't think AI art and traditional art should be comparable in skill or execution, just different skills. If you take a car and race it against a runner, we all will say that's unfair because the driver simply needs to "push a button" to win that race. But we can all appreciate the talent of a professional racer vs a 9-5 commuter.

[@jadecantfindthispassword]

@@BombalurinaAI Alright, that makes much more sense. Your involved in the process, and that’s the least anyone can do. Good job on not being an ai bro, and seeking out new opportunities! Perhaps we can chat in the future. You seem like a respectable individual.

[@Mh-gq7rs]

​​@@BombalurinaAI I usually would agree if a.i art wasn't unregulated in how it's used and how it's trained making kinda inherently problematic until it actually gets regulated This doesn't mean your using it wrong or are bad for using it it's just that alot of people don't use it as a tool but as their actual art

[@BombalurinaAI]

@@Mh-gq7rs The training is honestly an issue that would be a non issue in a perfect world. Every artist currently who has openly concented to AI training on their works has been getting massive blowback by their own fans for being a "traitor" or "selling out". The same people who cry for concent will cannibalize their own. Then let's say that's also not an issue and fans aren't killing their artists. Let's say they make laws that make hyper strick regulations to force people to compensate individual artists who's art is trained on. Especially in animated circles, you could easily pay some person from Korea or Indonesia pennies to recreate that style and then train on them instead, making it so you completely overstep the artist in question entirely. Then you'd have artists going on witch hunts more than they are now. I believe there is a solution that could be resolved that compensates artists is a ko-fi kind of system built into these AI models through the websites these AI creators could also benefit. Some 80/20 split for the artist / Ai Creator for building these models that AI users could donate directly to both parties is an idea I've tossed around. We cannot reverse the clock, politicians cannot come in and save the day, change is only going to happen within both communities. The /r/defnedingAIart (think that's the name) are blindly pro AI while many artistist communities refuse to see any middle ground for AI use. If people cannot meet somewhere in the middle, artists will only be hurt more for planting their feet in the sand as AI improves daily. Orrrr... I'm just coping and bias as hell.

[@divaprincess98]

The negativity towards Pewdiepie’s art progress is just so ignorant and disingenuous. People keep forgetting that both Pewdiepie and his life are vastly different from the average person. For one thing, he doesn’t go to college nor does he have a normal 9-5 job. Jobs in general are physically and emotionally draining, and it’s insurmountably worse if it’s a job you hate. He’s also financially stable. People severely underestimate how much of a burden financial instability can have on your mind. Artists who are poor won’t have time to think about all the improvements they could make on their art because they’re focused on bills. Plus, not having a 9-5 job or school will free up your time to do things consistently. Doing anything consistently will make you better at it, just like any other skill. As far as I know, he’s not disabled or neurodivergent. Having ADHD, autism, depression, or anything that’ll hinder your ability to focus and stay motivated will make learning anything harder, let alone art. He also an insurmountable amount of support. He’s one of the most popular and successful KZbinrs on the platform, with millions of followers on multiple other social media platforms. He could post a 1 minute sketch and get millions of likes. Meanwhile, several artists barely get 10 likes on a fully rendered art piece they spent weeks drawing. While I don’t think artists should care about numbers, I’d be lying if I said having getting lots of attention and praise offers no motivation for artists. Pewdiepie also has the fame and clout to ask the best and most popular artists for art advice. There’s sadly a lot of elitism in the art community, and many large artists tend to ignore or flat out be rude to smaller artists looking for advice because they either see them and beneath them, or think they’re clout chasing. Anyone would immediately drop what they’re doing and gleefully give Pewdiepie any advice he wants if he slid into their DMs asking for help. He can also collab with any artist he wants because any KZbinr would kill for the chance to work with Pewdiepie. Newer artists also tend to be just scared to asked more skilled artists for advice due to insecurity or lack of people skills. Pewdiepie is very extroverted and makes friends very easily, which kinda comes with being a successful KZbinr. All this to say, people shouldn’t compare themselves to Pewdiepie or use him as the “new standard” for all artists. Neither him nor his life isn’t normal by any means, so of course he’s gonna improve in a shorter period of time. We’re all going at our own pace given the lives we have, so we all need to just be kinder and more patient with ourselves.

[@marikothecheetah9342]

The problem with art community and PewDiePie is that they pee in awe how quickly he improved. Did he, really? After 100 days (that's 3 months +10 days) he only drew a simple manga face. That's all. And people say to beginners: be like PewDiePie! - which made me laugh and lose a lot of respect towards some artists, who lost their poop over PewDiePie for reasons unknown to me. First: PewDiePie does anything that is trendy (like watching anime, because, uh, it's trendy). He started to draw because artist community is quite large on social media and being THE PewDiePie he went into it ass nonchalantly as he could, knowing people will praise him no matter what poop he creates - and, unfortunately - he was right. People peed all over themselves because PEWDIEPIE DREW A BAWSSIC MANGA FACE! I wanted to see what it is all about and I watched his videos. Being unimpressed is a huge euphemism. You can do so much more in 3 months, if you do it regularly (not necessarily every day) and deliberately (i.e. you know what you are learning and why). Learning how to draw a manga face should have taken him (if he was serious about it) no more than a month, with a big stretch. All in all - it's like: PewdDiePie was commented on because he's famous. As for: what should I do to improve, asked by a total beginner is not a stupid question. How on Earth are you supposed to know what and how to learn if you know zilch about a thing? If someone asks me: how do I learn English? (I'm not an English speaker. it's my second langauge) I never tell them: just do grammar/learn vocab. First thing I ask them is: what is your motivation. Then: what do you want to use English for? If it's for watching TV and daily convos advanced business language is not necessary for them. Then they get a clearer picture and I can point them further. A good teacher remember his own beginnings, a bad teacher remembers only their advancement. As for a daily drawing thing - don't push yourself too hard. Sometimes you will have days when drawing will be repelling for you, sometimes you will be unable to draw a simple line but the next day you will create an awesome piece of art. However, if you want to draw every day, no matter your mood etc. - find something that will still be enjoyable, like doodles, swatching of your supplies, watching sketchbook tours to inspire you if you feel down, go through some pics online you want to draw when you are feeling better.

[@BEX5397]

They PEE?

[@marikothecheetah9342]

@@BEX5397 yes, they are :ohmigosh! PewDiePie dreqw a MANGA FACE!" I bet there was some spontaneous leaking from all that hype. :/

[@BEX5397]

@@marikothecheetah9342 they sound like puppies

[@marikothecheetah9342]

@@BEX5397 haha, puppies are more adorable at it, though. :D But yes, for me they give PewDiePie undeserved attention, while other, unknown artists with grit to struggle to make it bigger.

[@DarkStar3339]

He just wanted to draw...quit being such a loser.

[@elliart7432]

Are... are we just gonna ignore that its Pewdiepie? There's kind of a big reason he needed to find a new niche to begin with...

[@holy_magikarp]

I agree with your points that you don't really need daily practise to improve. But the presentation just feels overly spiteful?? Like the "UH ASKUALLY PewDiePie gave shit advice and here's why I'm right 🤓" sort of vibes. Idk feels like you were expecting too much from PewDiePie. The guy just wants to draw anime girls, not become an art youtuber

[@meronyach.]

Frfr. Just because some people would have a hard time doing what PewDiePie recommends, doesn't make it bad advice. Still, I appreciate seeing Celestia's opinion, even if I may disagree.

[@Mh-gq7rs]

The only way I got that vibe was through her clickbaity thumbnail Which she does for all her videos And she literally explained why artists give vague advice in general but included that guy because comments in her previous video not involving him saying say "Um askually 🤓☝️"

[@Mh-gq7rs]

​@@meronyach. Pewdie pie gave and advice that for years in the art community was seen as unhelpfully because it was vague and easy He did more then just draw everyday he did types of art practices that worked for him that helped him improve specifically Literally celestia was just explaining that

[@holy_magikarp]

@@Mh-gq7rs Pewdiepie gave unhelpful advice because he's an art noob. We can agree on that. I just think the way Celestia says "well, his advice is utterly wrong, but actually he was doing everything in MY APPROVED WAY and therefore proving me RIGHT" to be kind of obnoxious, that's all (I would put a timestamp here but I don't want to go through her rants again, sorry)

[@AlmostMilk.]

277 views 15 minutes fell off

[@25tundra95]

Almost funny

[@TwelveZ_12]

Ye she fell off