The PROS and CONS Teaching English In Vietnam 🇻🇳 | Travel Vietnam | Vietnam Vlog (Ep. 27)

[@katierose5683]

I’m Vietnamese but live in the US. I visited over the summer and my family in Vietnam said that teachers, especially English teachers are in very high demand and a very well respected job.

[@Edgesofearth]

- Correct 😇

[@katyu16]

My nephew taught English in Vietnam for 8 weeks, was paid cash daily (about US$12.00 per hour) and taught just 5 hours a day. No TEFL, no business visa (only Tourist Visa) and had a great time. Most schools wanted to work him to death 7 days a week for a monthly wage but found a smaller school whose attitude was "When can you start"? He told me almost every school he visited asked the same question.

[@Edgesofearth]

- 😇😇😇

[@travelnotesbymaitry9050]

Brock, I appreciate your efforts for teaching them, working 13-14 hours a day isn’t something easy I believe that. Proud of you so much, already and for children who cross river to attain class and return back in dark and something rain and dark ..! NICE VIDEO ♥️👍🏻

[@Edgesofearth]

- 😇😇😇😇

[@grantperkins368]

The Thank You thing goes like this: the "thank you" isn't there, but the appreciation is, if you can get my drift. Children won't thank their mother for putting dinner in front of them, as that's just a part of living in a family. Its the Mum's job, or duty. (by the way, no one will start eating until everyone is seated and invited to eat by the oldest person there.). Children are required to do their homework, cos that's THEIR job, and to look after their younger siblings (that's a responsibility entrusted to them, and it's always done willingly, never grudgingly!) That's also their job, but no-one thanks them. When you go to the shop to buy something in the west the customer usually thanks the sales assistant or cashier, when really they're just being paid to perform a service and generally be nice to you, so where's the big need for a "thank you"? Outside they'll probably drive past you in the rain. In Viet Nam the employee or owner or manager or whoever is in the shop or restaurant will be the one thanking YOU for choosing to eat there or shop there, then invite you to have something to eat when they see you walking down the street! At the end of the day it's them taking your money which you've worked hard for, "It's made round to go round" was an old expression used about money and spending, talking about coins...), but it's relationships with people and having their respect that are the most important things. It's hard to compare western an vn families, they're of such different cultures and hence so different themselves. The idea of "the individual" is not prominent in asian cultures - everyone is a part of, and sees themselves primarily as a part of a broader unit - family, school, workplace, society - which everyone tries their best to assist in developing. It's a pretty fundamental part of Taoist and Confucian doctrine, which has influenced philosophy, ideology and reasoning here for thousands of years. (It's also why the US could never have won the USA -Viet Nam War, short of killing everyone in VN.). Anyway, I hope this can help people understand it a bit better. Cheers. And thank you.

[@Edgesofearth]

- I love this description! Thanks for sharing! Couldn't agree more, the 'thanks' comes in forms that we are not used to...so it's difficult to understand in the beginning 😇

[@grantperkins368]

@@Edgesofearth Glad you liked it :) I've lived here for 13 years now and have absolutely no plans to live anywhere else!

[@mkshowtvlove3x]

@@grantperkins368 thank you for sharing your knowledge about the Vietnamese cultures

[@anizares1]

Great advice , thank you my friend :)

[@samraj3179]

Good content and very informative. Thanks.

[@WentworthRocket]

‘Teaching English is easy…you don’t teach grammar’ This is what separates the entry level from the professional lol

[@N8Burn]

i was dying laughing when you started talking about the slapping. i need to see this

[@Edgesofearth]

- 😆😅😂

[@bullrun44]

I just find your channel I subscribed. I’m intrigued by the island thing in the Mekong. What province were you in? Are you referring to BenTre? There is a nice lady that I found on Twitter who is looking to get some English-speaking foreigners to teach a lot of the poor kids especially out in the Mekong. Can you recall the island? I appreciate your video and your no nonsense approach.

[@Edgesofearth]

- I was on many islands in the Mekong. Many! Zoom in with Google maps and you can see them :)

[@ciovs]

Hi! I am Serban, for some months I have started to think very seriously about moving to Vietnam. And to stay there. I already have started to learn the basics of the Vietnamese language and am planning to target the Mekong Delta”s sourroundings, as to dedicate myself to any work involving kids in need. I am a special needs facilitator, with Msc in Psychopedagogy, but also with a decent experience as a language teacher, most of it in Brasil for some years. I am sorry to write such a consistent message, and I do not want to sound like I am applying for a job, but it would be a matter of a huge favor to ask you if I can get in touch, somehow, with the lady you were reffering above. I am very grateful for any possible info. Thank you, Serban

[@EatTravelSteve]

I have traveled to Vietnam a few times and I have not experienced or saw the slapping. I did receive and give a lot of thank you(s) and I heard others givie thank you (cảm ơn) (xin cảm ơn). I was ask to teach in Vietnam but I am thinking 'no'. I love the country and the people but I can only stay 10-30 days at a time before I start missing my own country.

[@Edgesofearth]

- Yeah. Strictly teaching, I experienced the lack of thanks from the students. From the other teachers, very polite and kind. Always. Very considerate. Outside of the school many people said thanks when I bought various items. I loved Vietnam 😇

[@benfucrin4217]

I've been teaching English in Vietnam for two years. Here are the cons of the actual teaching: Vietnamese kids have little motivation to learn English in my experience. They may be different in Saigon. 90% plus of Vietnamese kids will not need English, and they know it. Most Vietnamese kids are spoiled. They have few rules at home and school. I compare their lack of rules to their lack of rules on the road. Most of my students are fine, and I like most of them, but I have a few unruly ones. Students love to talk in class over others, including you. Learn classroom management ASAP, but even that doesn't always work. You'll have to resort to more extreme methods like kicking students out of class -- sometimes literally carrying them out - which management and the Viet teachers hate. I've been told at least six times to calm down, but I made the decision to reprimand students my way because I will not allow anyone to ruin the class. Management doesn't have solutions. They may call the parents to complain, but most parents don't care. I cannot emphasize enough how spoiled most Vietnamese kids are. Either that, or they're getting the shit beaten out of them. I've seen enough FB videos. Very few of them have a good, balanced upbringing. I married into a Vietnamese family and I've seen their lack of rules in the home up close and personal. You'll notice it in restaurants. Many Vietnamese parents don't care about their student's education or how they act in school. This is because jobs go from parent to child often through bribing teachers and principals for better grades, and employers for the job, or they simply may be too busy. If one parent complains about a class, the school will bend over backwards to make that parent happy. The school might change lesson planning and take parents' suggestions despite parents not being teachers or even knowing English. Parents have unrealistic expectations in part because the schools make promises they can't keep. That's off the top of my head. BTW, slapping is big in the north, as well.

[@Edgesofearth]

- Wow, thanks for the deep information. Yeah, I agree with most of what you said, based on experience. Some things you said are new to me. Interesting. Slapping is everywhere I guess 😂

[@anizares1]

Thanks for the tips. Always helpful to be prepared for the job there from an actual teacher. . I've heard of the TA slapping kids as well. You bring up an interesting subject . Didn't know you could kick a kid out of class?

[@benfucrin4217]

Kick them out if they're disruptive enough. Sometimes I offer them an option - move away from their friends or leave. Physical abuse occurs sometimes at state schools and day cares.

[@Edgesofearth]

- I did a few times. The best method is separating them from their friends. This decreased the majority of the talking for me ;)

[@ngandang96]

As a Vietnamese I agree with u, because the family education in VN is still in a hectic phase rite now, VN has just begun to develop and life has just started to get better ppl of previous gen struggled so they don't want their children to suffer, so many fams spoil their children, also they don't have much knowledge to educate their children in this modern era. It's a problem,I hope the civil level with be higher in the future

[@andthereisntone1]

Thanks for sharing. Were you able to save a bunch? Re: slapping, did you ever consider pulling out the pimp-slap hand, and showing them how it's done in Harlem? Where do you plan to move to after Vietnam?

[@Edgesofearth]

- Haha, no didn't save much at all. That's cool, though. USA, then India. Catch the next video ;)

[@andthereisntone1]

Cool stuff, brother.

[@thelmacrews3051]

Hey, Brock, can you vlog while teaching in your classroom?

[@Edgesofearth]

- I am no longer in Vietnam. You will see in the next video. However, you can look at an older video on my channel. Something like 'English is important'. That will give you an idea about the schools :)

[@thelmacrews3051]

Edges Of Earth thank you!

[@thelmacrews3051]

Edges Of Earth where to next?

[@Edgesofearth]

- You will have to wait and see, muahahah! lol

[@bushtukkaphil]

Hi Bud. Where are you? I'm on my way!

[@most65535]

Hi. Very interesting channel. I moved to HCMC, but i am not a native speaker. Would it be hard to find a position where i could teach computer science, computer programming and hardware? Back home i taught students at two universities.

[@Edgesofearth]

- Yikes, absolutely no idea..

[@島袋誠-z6k]

Ah yeah! Slapping! When i used to be a server in a vietnamese restaurant, all the vietnamese guys slap and punch and never say thank you, but i was raised in Spain, and i really like that, so when i slap them back, they where more friendly ~ best times, im gonna enjoy Vietnam so much.

[@Edgesofearth]

- 😆😆😆😂

[@flashkkk5945]

Howcome you didn't save much?Was the money used on traveling in your spare time?And what types of salaries do they pay in rural areas like you were in?(A $ per hour average).Thanks

[@Edgesofearth]

- I didn't save much because I wasn't paid much.. I saved 98% of what I made. I won't post an exact figure..lop I'll let you do some googleing. I was near the bottom end of the spectrum. This area wasn't wealthy.

[@flashkkk5945]

@@Edgesofearth Thanks

[@Thnhtrn]

True.

[@mkshowtvlove3x]

Hello my friends, thanks for sharing your very informative video, I love it and i learn it so much, I am a Filipina and planning on to apply as an English teacher at Vietnam. What is the best things to do to apply over there? Now I have a little background of their cultures and thanks for it.

[@mkshowtvlove3x]

I will watch your other videos of to learn how more

[@AuthorJamesFlynn]

How long do you think it'll be before Vietnam becomes over-saturated with English teachers?

[@Edgesofearth]

- A while. While there, it felt like there was an endless supply of openings. Schools and English centers were desperate to find native speakers..

[@AuthorJamesFlynn]

Okay, well that's promising.

[@whoizrez]

Edges Of Earth is there many openings for teaching but without qualifications?

[@anizares1]

@@whoizrez get your tefl and degree if not a native english teacher or else you may not even get an interview . Not fair but thats the way it is there.

[@Theredrain6]

Do you think it's better to have a job lined up before you go to Vietnam or to go there first and then look for a job?

[@leslieanthony1015]

I've worked from 2007 to 2018 in Saigon at Asian international school, Cong Hoa campus HCMC, and retired at 68 earning at the end 600.000 vnd. For 25 hrs M-F. But no degree or tesol. Didn't need it. I'm very active and know The V.N culture and expectations well. What are my chances today to get a job in Danang or HoinAn.

[@Edgesofearth]

- Not sure. It sounds like you would know much more than me..

[@dougm3037]

I've been to Vietnam many many times and never experienced the slapping culture you mention. Maybe it happens to English teachers?

[@mrredlapel]

How does paying tax work on a tourist visa ?

[@bananapatch9118]

Any age restrictions for teaching....someone in their 60s ? Thx !

[@Edgesofearth]

- I haven't watched my own video in a long time, but I believe that I mentioned something about age in the video. and general people in Vietnam like someone who is middle aged or younger. I tried to coordinate a professional teacher with a job and Vietnam, and they rejected her because of her age. it is possible to find work but more difficult than a middle aged person..

[@paulthe2mikolajdupontsrens586]

I see your an fan of Porsche cars. I’d love them too

[@Edgesofearth]

- Each of my shirts have been stolen, one by on, as they hung to dry. I now have 0.

[@Edgesofearth]

- Sometimes they hung inside lol. 3 porsche shorts, one pair of boxers, and two pair of socks....Vietnam and india combine..

[@paulthe2mikolajdupontsrens586]

Edges Of Earth lol. That’s just insane man.

[@keeswagner]

@@Edgesofearth so are you saying nothing is safe, like a laptop or other valuables could be snatched out of your apartment?

[@Edgesofearth]

- Blahhh, I don't know how to answer that. There are many opportunists. Don't give them the opportunity 😶...I am referring things that are not locked up. I think it would be ultra rare to have someone break the lock to your appartment... But if you forgot to lock it..and the door is open...that's another story.

[@valsi5212]

I thought that you posted the same video twice.

[@Edgesofearth]

- 😆

[@valsi5212]

Edges Of Earth You can also be an English teacher in Cambodia too and I need you to teach me because I have to prepare for the IELTS test.

[@Edgesofearth]

- I'm done teaching for a while 😆 Study, study, study! :)

[@valsi5212]

Edges Of Earth I’m done with teaching because I miss my Porsche and my company.

[@Edgesofearth]

- I miss traveling lol

[@brianvoigt526]

My tip to all these people coming to teach english. Learn a second language first so you can understand what is the mental struggle for people learning a second language. Ive sadly met some very arrogant english teachers who couldnt teacher a rat to eat

[@Edgesofearth]

- I have also met one of them. So toxic.

[@nr655321]

Another word you are rarely going to hear: 'sorry'...

[@forgottoremembertofo]

9:00 as an American, the last time I slapped someone I was in middle school, dude was twice my size and twice my weight, I caught a right hook to the side of my head so hard that my ear was bleeding heavily. 😂

[@Edgesofearth]

- Exactly. That's why I was so suprised eith this constant behavior lol

[@bananaphonehome]

Just found your channel recently.. How do you not have more views guy? (Evil youtube Skynet AI...)

[@Edgesofearth]

- haha don't know. The world hates me, I guess lol

[@CAHSR2020]

No slapping in the US? I've seen so many girls and women slap their brothers, boyfriends, husbands, etc. You've really never seen this?

[@Edgesofearth]

- Of course. This action happens in every country on earth. But this is the only country in have ever seen it so consistently within so many different scenarios. It was constant.

[@aldenrmachado]

First

[@kobebryant33824]

I been blessed enough to travel and i lived in Malaysia, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam for a minimum of a year in each country, Vietnam is by FAR the worst!! Theres a reason it has the worst return rate with tourists (return rate meaning people that visit it and leave and whether or not they ever return and visit again). Sure theres good and bad things in every country, sure some people have different experiences, i KNOW this! This is me making this comment, hence my opinion, my experiences. Vietnam is a beautiful country landscape wise, thats it. The people are horrible, again, you can reply and say "NO BUT I WENT AND I MET GREAT PEOPLE" sure, good job, no problem. I lived there for 3 years, and couldnt WAIT to leave. The majority of people have this "we are the high class" attitude, they looked down on their own people, its so disgusting. Like the original poster said, the beeping of the horns is WILD, 50% of the time its for no damn reason, over exaggerated, everyone thinks they are the king of the road, super prideful people, so they are constantly beeping, even if its 3am and the only two people on the road are a vietnamese guy and his shadow. They are SUPER dirty people, they toss things all over the street and sidewalks, they dont give a SHIT! Super LOUD people, you can be eating in the middle of a restaurant and someone will pick up their phone on speaker and just start yeeeelling on the phone super loud, or watching youtube, they dont believe in headphones there, theres this sort of "im the loudest, therefore im the coolest" vibe over there. In connection with the loud noise, damn near everybody installs these super cheesy super loud mufflers on their motorbikes, and everyone aged 50 and under drives like a teenager, "cool" and fast and loud and reckless, its such a shame. They are super prideful so theyll never admit to their faults or mistakes, which is weird, the prideful part, because they love korean food and culture so much more than their own. So many scams in that country, super hard to find anyone you can trust, and the food is TERRIBLE!!! Now this isnt aimed towards the elderly, or the poor or uneducated, because im not a scumbag, but the just normal people there, the ones that are blessed enough to have an education, they gotta be the dumbest people ive ever met, 0 common sense, 0 initiative, cant ever think outside the box, its like they been brainwashed, they are so scared of authority that if you point at something red and say its blue, they believe it and never question it Damn near everyone is rude and extreeeeeemely selfish, theyll cut you in lines and not blink, in their head its "yes we snuck and moved up the line" and not "we are adults, not animals, we should wait like the other people" nope! Suuuuuper selfish, if it benefits them then thats all they care about!! They control the SHIT out of their women, they pressure them to look like models, so much plastic surgery there, so many fake breasts and asses and noses and lips, its ridiculous. Vietnamese woman naturally are GORGEOUSSSSSS, but they are pressured to look flawless, which as we all know plastic surgery shows and it looks horrible. I hear SO MANY stories of the women getting beat by their drunk men. Overall, id never step foot in that country again, plain and simple ***oh and i forgot, the customer service is hoooooooorrrrrrrrible!!!!!***

[@Edgesofearth]

- I'm definitely not going to respond to each thing that you said. Despite many, or all of those things, this is still one of my favorite countries to walk around in.. mainly in the countryside. I cannot wait to return 😇🙏🏼

[@Edgesofearth]

- I guess I am addicted to culture that is completely different than my own, the United states. The larger the contrast, the more I am intrigued. There's a large contrast between the USA and Vietnam.. hence, the reason I find it so interesting.

[@kobebryant33824]

Oh no, most definitely man, im from the states as well and id DEFINITELY rather live in Vietnam than the states, but compared to the other countries in SE Asia, Vietnam is at the bottom of the list for me, i know people like to stay positive, and i should go by the "if you have nothing good to say then dont say anything at all" ordeal, but, i need to inform other people about the truth you know, before i came i just read about beautiful things, then once you live there its a totally different ball game. Simply not a fan of the people there

[@ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge]

thanks for the end message (I want no part of a culture that is slaping,nooooo!)

[@Edgesofearth]

- lol, yeah, that part got a bit annoying lol

[@VenkataRamanaPyla.]

You are stretching your forehead continuously brother 🙂