The Punic Empires of Phoenicia and Carthage

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[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

At 20:45 he discusses Herodotus' recounting of a story he heard about Phoenicians circumnavigating Africa (and how Herodotus himself doubted the story's veracity). He fails to mention a crucial detail in the story that, to us, confirms the story is true. Herodotus says the Phoenician explorers sailed south along the east coast of Africa until they turned west to get around what we today would call The Cape of Good Hope. At that point, the Phoenician sailors claimed that the mid-day sun was on their right. Heredotus regarded this as cause to disbelieve the story because, to the European worldview of the time, the sun being on your right when facing west was an impossibility. Of course, nowadays we understand that the Phoenicians had simply sailed into the southern hemisphere, so the mid-day sun appearing on their right when facing west would be perfectly natural and expected. That detail - one that caused Herodotus to doubt the story's truthfulness - is the very thing that proves the Phoenicians did indeed circumnavigate Africa.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Excellent post! I avoided elaborating on this subject as I couldn't triangulate stuff to do with it too well. The fact that the Phoenicians would potentially have a believable capability to do that was the aim of the paragraph. I wonder if Herodotus' Greek roots would have been enough to outwardly doubt Phoenician capabilities, and I also think that by Herodotus' lifetime, there would have been an active canal linking the Nile to the Red Sea, so the ability to circumnavigate Africa wouldn't have necessarily carried the political stigma that it may have once done if you were anti-Punic. Wonderful discussion though! Thanks for the valuable feedback.

[@mikesanders3246]

WOW, believe it or not I can help add to that. I was in Morocco recently and, according to everything I saw/read/heard, the Phoenicians would kidnap local Berber men and "conscript" them into the navy on there way south. Months or years later, on occasion, they would release them on upon returning. The Berber are well aware of the exploits of the Phoenicians voyages south.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

This is very interesting. There would have definitely been a familiarity between the Carthaginians and the Berbers. They would have definitely been the bosses of the Berbers near to Carthage, but they would have had strong links to the Berbers at places such as Mogador too.

[@Zebred2001]

Egyptian king Neco (II 609 B.C. - 594 B.C.) sends his Phoenician ships (611 B.C.) on an over two-year voyage around Africa from the Red Sea through Gibraltar then on to Egypt. See pg. 283 - 284 The Histories (Penguin Classics) Herodotus

[@Zebred2001]

@Gary Daniel The whole voyage was a promotional!

[@AncientBert]

Phoenicians are a key culture in understanding the development of our modern world. I had a wonderful time with this video this morning. I don't participate in iTunes, so having access to this History of the World podcast series here on KZbin is very satisfying. Thanks again, Nick.

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Bert Jordan I couldn’t agree with you more! Thanks for your time and your undying support and I hope that things are well with you, your family and friends!

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

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[@mrmarmellow555]

True True! Any Saleman would sell*off; 'er granny for a nice ship! And and An Couple of NUBian Girlz AllRiGHT? SAY NO MORE! Tee he!! 🤔😉😻

[@nickstrickland4751]

I once talked to a Dutch person and he said that the Dutch people were descendants of the Phoenicians, from Tyre

[@alejandromadrid8075]

Neither the phoenicians, nor the greeks nor the romans, are key to understanding the modern world. The foundations of the modern world were set in Christian Europe, for example, the year we are in, the use of banks, shops closed on Sunday, etc...etc..etc..the whole world was shaped by Christian Europe. There, I helped you, now understand the world.

[@sasachiminesh1204]

We DO know who Phoenicians are and where they originate: Lebanon. Phoenician culture is very well evidenced in its evolution from earlier Canaanite people who are Indigenous to Lebanon and what are now Palestine and Israel. Canaanite culture is represented in continuity in that area in the archaeological record. We know that Canaanite villages became the foundation of later city states because we have the archaeological record to prove it. Those early city states began to colonize the Mediterranean in the uniquely Phoenician way . The whole effort was born from trade because Phoenicians had the best goods to sell, and one that was exclusively theirs, namely crimson cloth. Sidon and Tyre were the two city states that initiated this and those two states remained powerful until they were finally consumed by Roman hegemony. They were again powerful post-Roman collapse.

[@alejandromadrid8075]

Yes, and they also sacrificed children.

[@hhunstad2011]

​@@alejandromadrid8075 hey Jack, not cool, don't waste your energy on comments like that, you've got to much to offer the world

[@hhunstad2011]

Liked reading what you had to say. Thanks for sharing your insight!

[@alejandromadrid8075]

@@hhunstad2011 Yes its not an easy or satisfactory to point something like that out. But we should not forget important facts about the Phoenicians religion. I am not sure if the Sumerians or Babylonians/Akkadians sacrificed their first born as a thanksgiving offering, but Greeks and Romans do record it as existing in their respective archaic history.

[@alejandromadrid8075]

@Sasachiminesh, when you say they were again powerful post roman collapse, what time period are you referring to? Byzantine era? Caliphate era? Ottoman period? When? I would like to learn about this.

[@garrethgoodworth2494]

My favorite ancient civilizations!

[@hewhoisdom]

I watch/listen to this because it covers a lot of ground in a short space of time and sticks to the subject without going on tangents. I also like that the scope is constrained enough so that the content is meaningful. Thank you - looking forward to what's next.

[@martinkudlacek9915]

Phoenicia did not end with Persian conquest. The Persians relied on the Phoenician cities for their navy. Tyre was still a powerful city when Alexander besieged it. The Phoenician people continued on after Alexander's conquest

[@mver191]

Byblos is very interesting, since it plays a role in both the Greek and the Egyptian traditions.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Terrific job as ever Nick. Thank you for putting some visual guidance alongside the podcast. It really does help to illustrate the script! Warmest regards, Chris

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

History of the World podcast As always it’s a pleasure! I was happy to use video footage in this one and I’ll definitely be doing more in the future. You did an excellent presentation!

[@nukelaloosh4795]

hey chris, why don't you have any content here on y/t?

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

@@nukelaloosh4795 Hello Nuke. I've really just been concentrating on the written word and audio aspect of the podcast as it is quite a new project. I'm no video producer so I'm happy to leave that kind of thing to Nick, but it's certainly not out of the question for the podcast to broaden its scope, so KZbin watch out!

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

History of the World podcast I think you would do wonderfully awesome work!

[@bethbartlett5692]

​​@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 DNA findings link the Phoenicians+ Canaanites as of Basque Origin. Also, the Indigenous White Berbers, People's of the Canary Islands, and the Irish. Irish are Gaelics not Celts, although there was the Viking and Norman Germanics (Celts possibly a specific Germanic group) Genetics is clarifying so much History. .

[@oscarsusan3834]

This Chanel made me appreciate the idea/value of primary sources for so many of my new formative ideas (what’s old is new again I might add) which I can incorporate into comedic oratory craft.The other day for example I found (on the net )letters from the time of the French Revolution ,A woman’s dinner with Napoleon,Tower of London Torture survivor and a Dragoon’s first hand account of combat at Waterloo.When you read it it’s not like what you see or hear on film which is so stereotypical that it’s bland. Always liked the historical stuff ,gods and mythology in my youth but never pursued it .Whats is this going to be good for in the real world?Now I know.Keep up the good work.

[@richardsparks7051]

Wow ! I loved this ! So much info provided in under a hour loved all the Maps some great graphics. It’s amazing of just how much trade was going on between places . Brings me back to Bronze Age Collapse . I think so many things going on from Drought

[@richardsparks7051]

Plus War , Earthquakes caused trade that was being depending on caused a migration of people in search for new home . Sea Peoples just a part of everything else going on

[@jboylan6970]

It was supposed to have been the Phoenicians who taught the Irish how to refine gold and traded the purple dye for freshwater pearls common at the time in Irish rivers.

[@colly7963]

The Carthaginians are also commemorated in the Latin name of the pomegranate, Punica granatum, which means apple of Carthage.

[@baberos8834]

The Phoenicians or Canaanites are the ancestors of most of the the peoples of the ancient Mediterranean world especially the Eastern side: The Levant, North Africa and part of South of Europe. They didn't disappear but they remained almost the same people till modern days (there are genetic proofs), however, after hundreds of years of invasions and falling under different civilizations and eras they developed a distinct identity. The Phoenician language, Alphabet, words, nouns, all developed into Arabic (and Semitic) and Greek and Latin languages, (the Greeks adopted the Phoenician Alphabet and many Phoenician Gods and Ideas). An essential part of the culture, music and Arts etc which you see it today in the Mediterranean World and West Europe had strong roots in the Phoenician and Arab civilizations.

[@Cgl3g3nd]

They did circumnavigate Africa the reason Herodotus doubted this was because they described the way the sun looks when looking from the tip of Africa and he didn’t understand that’s how it actually looked

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Good feedback!

[@mckfc7193]

Basically the Romans attempted to remove them from history.

[@tommyodonovan3883]

There can be only ONE!... *HIGHLANDER!*

[@alexhage8092]

After they taught them so much like ships and language etc... Unfortunatly yes. Humans...

[@krakenbyte7377]

But failed..live long Carthage

[@FiddlerForest]

That image of the evolution of the Phoenician alphabet is fantastic!

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

D H yeah I found the video online as a gif. Very cool!

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Allyredstar feel free to post mainstream counter sources.

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Allyredstar so do you actually have sources and references to validate your stance? And will you post them so we can all read them as well?

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Allyredstar so basically you won’t post any mainstream sources and or references that validate your stance?

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Allyredstar I’m actually talking about mainstream and credible references. Such as articles published in Journals and by Faculty members of universities and etc.

[@rigulur]

Pyrrus had a terrible habit of starting something without finishing it, and his life ended on such a sour note. Shoulda just took the throne when he had the chance.

[@BrionWatling]

We love the lore on history .

[@veronicalogotheti5416]

Thank you very much

[@sasachiminesh1204]

Phoenicians predate the Greek colonial expansion, duh. The first Greek colony near Phoenicians is where the Greeks picked up the alphabet. Akko, Tyre, Sidon were all powerful before the Egyptians conquered them. This is very badly researched. This narrator knows nothing about archaeology. Even the Torah reports that Canaanites were well established when Abraham came west. Canaanites are Indigenous to the Levant. We have deep archaeology showing that.

[@AnnhilateTheNihilist]

Does that make Canaan the barbarian?

[@danyelahtabaat4808]

No the barbarian came later

[@mikeappleget482]

He mentions the Sea Peoples and the Bronze Age Collapse being in the “10th century BCE”? The Collapse happened around 1200 - 1175 BCE

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

You're absolutely correct Mike. Certainly the Near East was still reeling in the wake of the collapse during the 10th Century, but yes the 12th Century is the period of the Late Bronze Age Collapse. You're right to point this out.

[@bUwUmer1260]

Miss this guy :(

[@virgiljjacas3955]

The term " Phoenicia " is a Greek term.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Correct.

[@AntiquatedApe]

It means the purple people! Tyrian dyes made them prosper

[@captainskrips]

Michael Caine should be narrating more historical podcasts really

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Not a lot of people know that ?

[@walterdebnam8021]

I was curious about some of the styles of war, where they would have a champion from each side to fight to decide a battle and a war, rather than lose so many men and decimate the population and ruin the economy afterwards, such as they are did do in Greece. Was that prevalent all over the area or just coming from the Greek area and brought to them. David and Golioth's fight as an example.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

It's an interesting point, but defies logic in my mind. Some have suggested that David versus Goliath is more of a metaphoric story of the battle between the two armies of Israel and Philistia. If my land had lost a war due to my greatest warrior being defeated one-on-one by my opponents' greatest warrior, then I would come back with a whole army and reverse my nation's fortunes.

[@kkkkkkkkkkk6313]

The phoenician history goes on after the Fall of carthage tyros and the Rest of the libanon. When will you Talk about the eastphoenicians under persian ans trek rue till Roman rulership?

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Yes, you are absolutely right. Just because a land is conquered, certainly doesn't mean that the ancient bloodlines disappear. Phoenicians would have surely lived on through Persian and Hellenistic times.

[@peterzapfl7439]

@CARTHAGETUNISIAHANNIBAL OK. Dumber IS Not possible. I gues. First of all. I m very Well wäre how Mandy carthages exist and never Said that there are more than one. Saying I die IT IS dumb. I also never Said that there Had ever Bern a Nation called phynica. Saying that ist dumb. However First of all. IT dies Not Matter If the Story ist true. Karthager starten as a collony of tyre and became Independent. Same language, culture Religion. Karthager worschipped Melcard the legendäre cityfounder of tyre. Tyre was and Always Had Ben the Most powerfull easternphoenician City collonized cyprus and was the only City having the resources to collonice. Allessa or Not. Box the way. Here Name was Dido Not allessa. WE have Not much information about easternphoenica. WE know at least in the time of 1000 bc IT was all conquerred by tyre. So the was at least a Shirt time in WHO h an easternphoenician Empire existed. Controller Not bei another City called carthages but by tyre. Period. WE so Not know If this Empire Fall appart later. However whenever someone wanted to conquer this areas the conquerer came for tyre and when tyre was conquerred the war was over. Which seems that this easternphoenician Empire survived for a very Long Time under assyrian, Babylonien, greek and Roman overlordship. And Eve more impotent. I m Well wäre that there was No country colled phoenica. I never Said this. Saying I die IS dumb. A civilisation dies Not necessarily have to bei a Nation. IT can alsobe a feudal organised Organisation that makes ITS own rules. We dont know much about tyre. However WE know that when rome conquerred something IT Dido Not necessarily romanive it. Sometimes they allowed the people to stay officially Independent as vasalstate, that pays Tribute. Judea for example was a vasalstate. Sparte, after the conquest of greece stayed officially Independent and even florrished. Tyre was the Leader of a coalition of 5 phoenician citystates under Roman overlordship and this lege of 5 we're still phoenicians. IT was the Rest of the easternphoenician empire. This Changes in the Seconds half of of the Seconds ventury after christ. This was the time of the end of the phoenicians. 300 years after carthages Fell.

[@l0new0lf000]

Such a loooooooooong intro. Said "ladies and gentlemen" three times!

[@skipjackjohnson5528]

I wonder if the minoans had an influence on early phoenician people.

[@paulsmith-gi5vm]

More likely the other way around. It is known the Minoans traded with Egypt and the eastern mediterranean. They also raised, harvested, and traded murex purple fabric dye en mass for bronze manufacturing resouces copper and tin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIewmYVsm9V2Y6c

[@Sami00888]

The origin of the Phoenicians from the Arabian Peninsula migrated to Lebanon and then to North Africa This is what the father of history, Herodotus, Strabo, and others said They are not sucking Search well paul smith

[@paulsmith-gi5vm]

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[@Sami00888]

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[@paulsmith-gi5vm]

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[@Sebastian_Gecko]

HELL YEAH! Thank you

[@TheKsk1997]

I rather like the intro, well done!

[@stevenwallace5456]

Please cover the Volcae

[@masada2828]

Luv ur books, very impressive.

[@rbenm]

It's an underground society. Carthage and the farmers continued underground in a 3D world and once In a while pop up in the mountains to leave magical art. They've had granite generated electricity for thousands of years. Check my videos it al starts with Hannibal and the Punic wars. He went to Italy to stall the army there so Hannibal could make a map of the Mediterranean sea and on his way left a one million stone to fuvk with the Romans in baalbeek cause Hannibal knew the Romans claimed Greek architecture by building tempels in top. On his way home he met up with khufu and made a deal. One gets a pyramid the other 10 thousands of his most valuable people for the new society. The inside of khufu is the beginning of the underground granite world, between the gallery walls is blockplanet. Where you are waitless cause you're going down. Hannibal and khufu kept word and after the last FARAO died the farmers teachers and doctors abandoned the gizeh plateau and went underground. Hannibal left a stone undug for the later FARAO he didn't like so much. 1000 ton just like the stone he left undug in baalbeek and just like the obelisk he did erect for khufu. He also left a stone with "translation" to fuck us. He the shaped Italy like a boot like it's kicking the ball to cartage. And left for Jordan with his new society before spreading out in the world eventually shipping to South America where they dominated the continent for a while. I made a scetch of the machine used to tunnel trough ground in granite box that gets dragged on the floor creating friction for the machine. Talking about climate friendly. Anyways hope you check out my vids. And it was also gravity that build the pyramids of Gizeh. the architect created three pyramids next to eachother and recreated the floors downwards. so you attach a two ton stone to another two ton stone on the other side, than they they become weightless. If you want one up, add some small weights on the other side just like on a wait scale and you have the stones drag eachother up, left right left right. No aliens or slaves. Just brains and ancient digging technology. Check out my vids for clear explanation with pictures.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Isn't the overground world a 3D world?

[@swhitham]

I am unable to find your videos?

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

CARTHAGE WS BUILD ON AN ATLANTIS HARPOR COPY TO LOOK ALIKE WITH RING OF WATER IN THE BAY

[@TheLionFarm]

18:35

[@alexhage8092]

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[@gabrielalexanderkhoury73]

The first experience of alcohol may have been from fermented fruit falling off trees.

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

The story of coffee is fascinating. Perhaps a podest topic.

[@thescientistschurch]

Conch shell. Signs for caninites Royal colour purple. Held past resets information. Antiquitech. 750bc big catastrophic event

[@hanikaram3351]

The Phoenicians also were friends with the Egyptians not just subjugated by them they had similar things in common and the Phoenicians needed the Egyptian special cloth (i forgotten the name ) for their ships and the ropes also from Egypt . The Pharaoh also organized several trips using the Phoenicians i forgotten which one we studied about him in public school overseas . later i will reveal a huge connection between Phoenicians and Etruscan and the Phoenix Myth , i had revealed it three times before elsewhere

[@Marshall_Stacks]

Ha. You seem to do a lot of forgetting for an expert.

[@Oghar999]

That intro nearly drove me of... Why the enormous drama?

[@algerianmermaid]

Is that mean north african are phonician not arabs or berber? I think that arab are phonician

[@hbg5942]

north afriacns are moors and berbrs , they are the natives before the phonicians and romanians and arabs , and until today they are the majority , even if today they speak arabic more then in amazigh, the berbers language , and by the way phonicians themselves they are not arabs , the arabs are in the golf cowntries

[@sasachiminesh1204]

Oh - get some facts together. Cultural diffusion is not the same as migration. Just because there is a cultural connection does not mean anyone migrated. Really ignorant. Who are the supposed "experts" in this piece, and who actually made this docu? obviously, this is a repost of stolen video, so who actually made this?

[@juniorberns]

the Beunik...

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

THE REWARD FOR TAKE OUT THE PERSIAN IS THE GREEK EMPIRE

[@veronicalogotheti5416]

They made colonies in ugarit

[@michaelhoss9714]

Ok so let me get this right...Jesus lived in a time where the “J” doesn’t exist-Jesus. Yet, there is power in the name? Who’s power

[@sylvansinger]

Michael Hoss it’s pronounced Yeshua originally. J is a modern spelling using a modern alphabet. Just like Sean is the Celtic version of John. Also in the original King James printings there are letters, spellings we no longer use. There no power is just a word written down, it’s the intention behind it.

[@patrickfaas2329]

That Trump style hysteria at the intro probably scared away a lot of people.

[@stephenrioux6821]

Cool video, but the linguistics are all wrong. The Phoenician alphabet was an outgrowth of Syriatic Aramaic, not Egyptian. Egyptian writing was either symbolic (Hieroglyphs) or syllabic (Hieratic). Egypt did not have phonetic writing of their own until 700BC, about 1000 years after the first appearance of the Aramaic writing systems (Syrian and Hebrew). As with all things Egyptian, it was too ornate for everyday use.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Have you got a source material for this theory Stephen? I'm interested in this point of view because I think there's a general concensus that Aramaic derived from Phoenican, so I'd love to read a counter argument.

[@wasetamaru31]

@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 Ancient Khemet = Egypt, had more form of writing. Besides hieroglyphics... which was usually used by the pharaohs and high priest...there was a common script for the masses! The Phonecian 22 letter alphabet, is based of off symbolic script of the ancient Khemites. This information can easily be goggled. They also established colonies through out the Mediterranean.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

@@wasetamaru31 Do you have a scholar reference to this? I'm very interested.

[@wasetamaru31]

@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 These are the 3 scripts they used: Hieroglyphics, Hieratic, and Demotic. You should be able to find a number of source references & scholars through goggle. Also, look into the work of Robert Buval and John Hancock - They're both scholars and experts in ancient Egyptian culture.

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

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[@nukelaloosh4795]

haha, overly dramatic intro nick...just be yourself bro

[@juniorberns]

the punic wars meant limited wars... not a culture. like sayin that Carthage was a limited war and nota culture... must be an antigonid ignoramus... the pheonician empire with carthage as a last remnant, that couldnt recognise Rome, so listened to antigonids in the Eastern Med... all of my misspelling wont give you any slack either.. lol.

[@mhmdkhaledabla7512]

Proud lebanese phonecian, 🇱🇧🇱🇧

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[@Stsebastian8900]

I thought the phoneticians where the descendants of Canaanites? An the Greeks from the Phoneticians! This according to eric cline, who i take is allot more qualified than this chap.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Be very careful. Descendancy is very rarely completely linear, especially as societal intermarriage is something very present in that age. I feel sure that the wonderful Dr Eric would agree. I tend to believe that Phoenician city-states were primarily occupied by the descendants of Canaanites, but I don't think that the earliest Ancient Greeks necessarily descended from the Phoenicians. I think the Phoenician alphabet migrated to Greek lands through the travelling merchants, but the language descended from the Mycenaeans, and I can't recall stumbling across anything in my studies that suggests a wave of migration from Phoenicia to Greece at the turn of the first millennium BCE.

[@primatalogico1162]

@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 Canaanite or Phoenicians are synonymous terms ! The Phoenicians referred to themselves as Canaanites whereas the Phoenician term is considered to come from the Greeks, though many origin theories exist yet the Greek one is the most accepted one ! Regarding the descendancy part, it is pretty much linear as the Lebanese have shown great continuity in their genes ! The Greeks are not descendants of Canaanites though there were towns in Greece that were established as Phoenician !

[@user-sz5um1sg7v]

Lebanon=phoenicia

[@izfe830]

No it s not

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[@thli8472]

You should work on your titles. When I see things like "must see" or "coolest thing ever" I hesitate to watch. "excellent presentation" is better but still bad

[@LukeLovesRose]

And they all spoke a Hebrew-inspired language.... Go figure.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Is that correct? I'm hesitant to label Punic ancestry as Hebrew as the Phoenician city states were quite well established before the suggested emergence of Israel. Do you have any sources?

[@arng111]

They spoke a Semitic language. It wasnt Hebrew-inspired. Hebrew is just another Semitic language, as is Arabic. Phoenician written language predates both, and the people who claim most likely descent from the Phoenicians today are the Lebanese

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 According to WHO?? The same people who say two passenger jets brought down the WTC by collapsing the top floors onto the bottom floors or with kerosene fuel?? LMAO

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@arng111 According to WHO? The same people that say the National Socialists killed 6 million people with a pesticide and diesel gas??

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

@@LukeLovesRose I've never met an archaeologist or philologist who's said that.

[@arjunchatterjee875]

Dude this is beautifully detailed, a real pleasure to watch... I've only got to watch half of it so far but I'm really loving this episode. Thanks for taking out the time and effort to create it. ^^

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for your support! For more of his work, check out The History of the World Podcast and let him know that Nick sent you his way!

[@arjunchatterjee875]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 These are excellent resources for those who want to learn history. I've subscribed. Thanks again! AC

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Arjun Chatterjee we truly appreciate that! Thank you so much!

[@charlesborg4552]

I know that we are a small Island,but you seem to have forgotten about Malta as part of the Phoenicians / Carthage.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Sorry!!!

[@sbadaro]

Actually the only place left in Europe where the Phoenician language is still more or less spoken, no?

[@bullterror5]

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[@munihmuni8814]

He forgot that the phoenicians and Cannites are the same, no?

[@sbadaro]

@@munihmuni8814 well... Yes and no, if you are lebanese, particularly a Christian with roots in the rugged twin mountain ranges seperating it from Syria, you would claim the phonecians as your ancestors (mostly out of spite to distinguish themselves from the Palestinians in the open plains to their south). In reality, Phoenician is no more than a dialect which is part and parcel of the Kanaanite language.

[@Brandazzo22]

great video. I was skeptical by the long intro but I regress. subscribed. welcome to my elite core of history channel collections.

[@Reina-in9zk]

Carthage still called Carthage in Tunisia because of the strong and amazing history and culture it has. Thank you for making a part of our history clear to others.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

As it should be. I'm absolutely fascinated by the Carthaginian harbour and naval base.

[@Reina-in9zk]

​@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 you should come and visit, Carthage is so amazing, also I recommend you to visit the amphitheatre of El Jem it's the second biggest amphitheatre in the world, it exists in a city called El Jem in Tunisia.

[@6_alsw]

Arabs ✔️

[@primatalogico1162]

@@6_alsw Arabs are completely unrelated to this !

[@MG-xx9wk]

@@6_alsw Tous les envahisseurs qui peuplent l’Afrique du nord ne sont là que depuis le 6è-7è siècle de notre ère, suite à l’invasion arabo-musulmane. Les Tunisiens actuels ne connaissent rien des phéniciens , et sont étrangers à tout ce qu’ils ont trouvé en terre Carthaginoise. Ils peuvent prétendre être des phéniciens, sauf qu’ils ignorent complètement et paradoxalement le 1er élément basique de la culture phénicienne: L’ÉCRITURE ET LA LANGUE PHÉNICIENNE . C’est ça la vérité qui efface toute vos prétentions

[@gicicemina]

Phoenician descendants : Lebanese, Tunisians, Cypriots, Sardinians, Sicilians, Maltese.Proud of our blood

[@ImperialLegionTV]

Firstly, it needs to be considered that during this time period the identity of city-states and nations were not entirely respective of race or ethnicity. For example; to the East in Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleucid Mesopotamia, and Bactrian Afghanistan - all of which were considered 'Hellenized' civilizations following the Achaemenid conquest of Alexander The Great and his Diadochi successors - the ethnic majorities very much remained intact. The masses of Seleucid Syria were very much Semitic/Persian in their customs, culture and ancestry. However, the key factor is that the ruling class/nobility of Seleucid Syria was Greek. This is important. Why? Because it is the ruling class and sovereign government that defines the people of a society in historical context. It's why the Seleucid Empire was viewed as a classical Greek state, when in reality only a minority of the society was in fact ethnically Greek. The same can be said for Carthage. The vast majority of Carthaginian civilization (which encompassed a far more diverse society than even the Diadochi states) was obviously 'indigenous'; meaning largely Libyan, Iberian, Berber, Greek and in some cases (like Alalia) Etruscan. That being said it is quite evident historically that the ruling class and nobility traced their ancestry directly back from Phoenicia in the Levant. Which was a confederation of post Bronze-Age-Collapse city-states drawing much of their direct ancestry from displaced Canaanites. In other words, not 'black' at all. The fact that the Phoenician alphabet gave way to Aramaic, Hebrew and Arab scripts is really all the evidence one needs to confirm cultural lineage to the area. The Suez Canal did not exist in classical antiquity. The notion of Sub-Saharan Eritreans ('black' people I suppose) sailing around the horn of Africa, up the West African coast, through Gibraltar, across Greek/Phoenician controlled waters and somehow assimilating and outright culturally dominating that ancient culture is absolutely absurd. It is also quite insulting to the already tarnished and fractured history of the Phoenicians.

[@GreyhoundsHavingFun]

Thanks so much for posting this. Quite enjoyable to listen to and I really appreciate the maps!

[@sasachiminesh1204]

Canaanites known as Phoenicians invented the first alphabet - their own idea. We know for sure they are Semitic because we have a ton of text in their language. Punic can be understood from modern Arabic and Hebrew, they are so closely related. It's like the writer never heard of archaeology. We have a ton of stelae and inscriptions that evidence who these people are, not to mention the Torah completely confirms all this.

[@andrewanderson5948]

I love listening to people that knows their stuff 👍

[@dannyelkassis1466]

Hello, I just want to tell you an info which I think it is very true. it is about the French city of Marseille. As far as we know is that this city is originally Phoenician according to its name / Marseille = Marsa El / which mean the port of El in Phoenician and El was a Phoenician God. I hope that this info can help.

[@thescientistschurch]

Fleucca ship in West Australia mesuem. Hieroglyphics, Egyptian, found in gosford NSW Australia Also you can follow the insignia, pottery, ship styles as the changes take place. The Star symbol, star forts, are an example. Star symbol used by multiple country's, companies today🤔

[@musaka2022]

I've tried to search for info on this to no avail , do you have any links? As an Aussie I'm fascinated. Thanks

[@columbasaint465]

Is there any way you could tell us how to get the history content from the English narrator without having to put up with you using this channel to post your political ideology?

[@franciscofranco4520]

Are you Holly, the computer, from Red Dwarf?

[@lallyoisin]

German may not be the source of the word 'kin' cinn is son of fire is in old Irish and that's just one meaning. anything solar related was deleted here by our two masters. bel = solar deity to the celts. baal = phoenician solar deity. mull is mound or chieftain mull of kin tyre tír is land in Irish and scottish Gaelic but the people of tyre 🤔 Tiraz was a style of embroidery in antiquity - catherginians I think. The main supply of garments came from Tyre in antiquity no? Phoenicians known for their rich colours particularly purple the purple dye extracted from murex snails made the phoenicians very wealthy. worth its weight in gold. it was used in the book of kells. This was work carried out in scotland or Ireland (all the one to me) - ginga ninjas It should also trigger a few Scott's that were the kin of Tyre. Mull of kintyre or McIntyre. The etymology of kin is mistaken. Yes, the germans have kinders but the Irish have a whole selection of cinn words and we didnt have K so it's an easy deception. It means clan, spawn or origin. Mul means mound or excellence (as in his or her excellence). maol is crown of head or chief. my name in irish is Maolalaidh. it can also mean speckled but this word is also derived from portal. look at the map of ireland and spot the placenames beginning with cather cathar caher cathair . cathaoir cathair a city, Irish, Early Irish cathair, Old Irish cathir cathair a chair, Irish cathaoir, Early Irish catháir why cheftians called them high seats maybe? The Greeks referred to hibernia as 'The most ancient' Greece is old as shit! why are we connecting only some dots? let's get the round towers dated properly. To me they're clearly pre Christian as there isn't one record in the annals of 200 sky scrapers going up! a few damaged by lightning or flood or Danes on there alright but you would think it an important event. unless of course the annals were corrupted by their 4 masters. who are the sunburnt people today?

[@amalmc]

I don't if you have visited Lebanon before making this documentary. I would tell you there is a sarcophagus of byblos king Ahiram in the national museum of Beirut where you find on this sarcophagus of the Phoenician alphabet,

[@aspiceoflife]

When I think of Phoenicians I think of Phonetics. Any similarities?

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

I think that this is coincidence, but who am I to say so? You are certainly not the first person to bring this up, so it deserves further discussion.

[@ninjareflex]

Not a coincidence. They (jews) are the controllers of trade and creators of our modern English language and governmental institutions. Phoenicians=phonetic=phony, currencies = sea current, your birth=berth place, is your country's citizen"ship", "off shore "banks" ..learn about etymology and you'll see what I mean and beyond...

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

You have me a bit here due to things that I have learned. I might have missed your point about Jews creating our modern English language, as it doesn't appear to be logical that Semites created English. The words "Phoenician" and "phonetic" eminate from the Indo-European Ancient Greek to my knowledge, so I'm confused about the links to Jewish etymologies.

[@ljones7293]

The Phoenicians invented the first alphabet, hence 'phonetics'. Being traders with an expanding industry, the Phoenicians needed a method to keep record and index of their trade stock: inventing an alphabet was the answer.

[@dannyelkassis1466]

Phonetics is derived from Phoenicians, which is the voice of their alphabet/ les voyelles in french / the A/E/U/I/O/Y.

[@justushall9634]

25:09: Map. One tribe listed, is called Celtiberi. True to their name, they spoke a Celtic language; same with many other tribes in ancient Spain. I am planning an alternate history called CeltWorld, where the ancient Celts ar not overpowered, and Celtic languages, incl. Continental Celtic, remain widely spoken.

[@konohatvnetwork]

Phoenicians, Carthiginians and Canaanites ALL had skin tones that looked like copper pennies

[@danyelahtabaat4808]

They were black

[@matiusbond6052]

@@danyelahtabaat4808 YES THEY WERE BLACK AND ALL THE TRUTHS ARE COMING OUT

[@Tomas-ml9nv]

We wuz KANGZ 😂

[@MegaBaddog]

FROM WHICH SOURCE?

[@Sami00888]

Their skin is white and tends to be red like the Arabs Because they are from the Arabian Peninsula and they are the ancestors of the present Arabs KonohaTV Network

[@whoitisnot]

Why is this guy talking? Just get on with it! I don't need you hype this video that I already clicked on.

[@steelegreenland6634]

Absolutely fantastic video. The best work I’ve seen on this channel so far, thank you 🙏

[@dirkdiggler3747]

Thank you sir, enjoy the videos.

[@BuyingSpace]

Sir Walter Raleigh brought back tobacco from the colonies to England. He was in his home smoking and his servant freaked out and poured a bucket of water over him. He thought his head was on fire. 😂 So smoking must have been unknown to common people in England at that time.

[@NormBoyle]

See this video of cannabis residue on a jewish temple alter south of Jerusalem. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKeYmJ5vhL50hsk cannabis was known already, but in the east. Canaanites and skythians of Ukraine both used it. Tobacco was only in americas.

[@sgk2511]

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[@TheBeforewebegin]

really going to miss you and you're content! RIP

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

THE REWARD FOR WIPE OUT THE CARTHAGEANIAN IS ROME TAKE THE MEDITERIANIAN LAKE

[@strongangel]

Timely . enjoyed , sub'd and will look into your entire output. Many Thanks. Phoenician Script is very interesting.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

The Phoenician script is incredibly fascinating. It's the crossroads between simple glyphic symbols and modern alphabets. A vital part of the history of writing.

[@stephenrioux6821]

Point of fact: Contrary to Modernistic arrogance, the Ancients weren't all illiterate. The Phoenician alphabet was an outgrowth of Syriatic Aramaic, not Egyptian Hieroglyphs or Hieratic script. Hebrew evolved from Siniatic Aramaic, a closely related script that dates back to about 1800BC. Scribes. and notaries, could be hired on the 'Street of Scribes' (there was one in every Canaanite city-state). The Greeks liked the idea, and extended the concept to small class instruction, and private tutoring. The Assyrians, and the Babylonians, banned both scripts for use in official documents. It was too easy for conquered peoples to learn.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

I'll definitely need to know your source material. The Greeks were making records in the comparatively alien Linear B script during this period. What evidence is available of Aramaic scripts back in 1800 BCE?

[@aeolus75]

In Greek mythology, Europa was a Phoenician princess. Europe was named after her.

[@primatalogico1162]

As well as other countries whose names have Phoenician origin such as Spain, Britain,... as well as the possibility of Africa being amongst them too !

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

THE REWARD FOR TAKING OUT THE AZTEC IS THE AMERICAN EMPIRE

[@bouchendirakarim751]

greetings from carthage or Afrika or Tunisia nowadays

[@douglassorge6235]

This presentation would be better without the intro. Yuck!

[@Oghar999]

Very nice podcast though and handy maps 👍🏼

[@sammykhuri1885]

The bible tell you exactly who are the Phoenicians

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

A 3 SHIP AND A 150 SPANISH WIPE OUT ALMOST TWO CONTINENT

[@amrev2.020]

PLEASE keep this up! Actually regarding the Herodtus account of the Phoenician's circumnav. of Africa there is an interesting part where Herod. mentions the sun rising from the wrong direction which points to the fact that the phoenicians having been in the southern hemisphere, something impossible if confined to the Mediterranean sea. This added to his description of them keeping the African continent to their right side the entire time in addition to their proven fearlessness lends good credence in my opinion.

[@historyoftheworldpodcast5234]

Yes, this is an incredibly important and valid point. I find it an absolutely mindblowing achievement when you consider the dangerousness of the waters of the open oceans, but there's no doubt that they were skilled seafarers and the logic of the statements suggest the poosibility.

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

FULL OF THEM SO THE ROMAN DECIDED TO WIPE EM OUT FOR THE SAME REASON

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

Nice presentation. Narrator sounds a bit like Winston Churchill. The smoking comment is like anything else...discovered by accident.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Sounds more like Dick van Dyck in Mary Poppins.. Eyenshent.....!?!? Dreadful.

[@benquinney2]

The rise and sinking of Atlantis

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

ALEX AND 40000 PHALANX TAKE OUT INDIA CURRY

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

10 TUMAN OF GENGHIS TOOK OUT ABOUT 100000000 OR MORE