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[@YaBoyRoshi]

I still would like to see some more savage Blood bending lol

[@fackthissheep1963]

you probably saw already

[@tkojit]

wink wink

[@majinvampire]

Blood and metal be the best

[@codemonkeys3914]

@@majincheers406 They already about to finish book 4 of Korra

[@rivieres2401]

Code Monkeys are you just guessing or are you fire sure about that lol

[@dysn3961]

"Congratulations Katara, you're a blood bender" The whole ass village around her: "She's a what??"

[@evetea9780]

"You're a bloodbender, Harry" "I'm a what?!"

[@eowynsisterdaughter]

I know, but my headcanon is that the villagers were willing to look the other way since the Gaang just freed the captives and took out Hama. They just want it to end.

[@gamingdemigodxiii5630]

@@eowynsisterdaughter That and they figured that Katara just took down an OP (in the village's eyes) waterbender. And Katara did it using a technique that she literally learned minutes ago, against the the techniques inventor. It's just as likely that the villagers wanted to capture/kill Katara for the sake of stopping the spread of bloodbending, but they knew that they couldn't and didn't want to give Katara a reason to use it. Worst case scenario, the villagers were like: "We thank you for saving us, but as soon as the full moon ends, we're going to have to politely ask that you leave the village. Please?" Saying it in a way that demonstrated that Katara was in charge.

[@God_3712]

@@evetea9780 loool

[@BadKarma444]

It is funny to think that but this series, and this episode in particular, focuses on the theme of looking past prejudices. Many people of the other kingdoms, specifically those who were harmed by the Fire Nation the most, seem to think its a kingdom full of evil men and women who support the conquest of the world. However, in reality, they are just the same as everybody else and just happened to be born into that nation. Hama fails to realize this and believes that the people of the village deserve punishment for the actions of Fire Nation's military as a whole. However, the people of this village don't hate Katara or villainize her because she is a waterbender because that prejudice does not exist within everybody in the Fire Nation. It isn't shown as explicitly in this episode in particular, but in the Painted Lady episode, when Katara revealed she was a waterbender to a village in the Fire Nation, they were more mad about her impersonating their local deity than her actually being from an opposing nation. Most people of the Fire Nation are, surprisingly, not that diehard for the Fire Nation....save the capital city where people are brainwashed to be.

[@DbAddSeb]

The way Katara stops that one attack from Hama is super Earthbender. A waterbender would have continued to redirect it. Katara’s time with Toph has been good for her and the whole team is growing so much from each other!

[@hollonUT]

Another nice attention to detail is that Hama looked surprised after that, someone who wouldn't know how to forcefully stop water like that.

[@jaidynbell7885]

Also the move she used at the end when she crossed her arms, it's not usually mentioned much, look at the form

[@TheJakobRose]

And her move of jumping through the water during the fight is something aang does in season 2. Very airbender

[@unlimited971]

@Trashthlete yes without being the avatar, knowing all ways of bending which are different way to move sohuld bring a certain form of balance. because let's think of it for a second. a battle of two benders of the same element is basically decided based on the energy distribution and the control out of the moves. ultimately the best bender are the ones directing the most energy possible with the least movement possible.

[@thesolitairegambit2556]

Thank you for noticing that!! 😎👍

[@hazycat8466]

Can you imagine how much bloodbending would hurt? A person literally pulling your blood, stretching, contracting, dilating your blood vessels and muscles. All of that tension and forceful movement must cause a lot of pain, especially if you resist. I feel like it was definitely implied here that this technique is very painful for the person being controlled, which just adds another layer to the creepiness and why Katara considers it be extremely unethical.

[@rannierunsfast]

Yup it’s confirmed in Korra how painful it feels.

[@admin.slayerenryu]

I feel like if G.R.R. Martin or a competent enough writer with a similar style like him was involved, the ATLA universe could be *WAY* darker if it wanted to. Like the show is surprisingly darker than it seems, specially for a kid show, but it has the potential of the war and other aspects to be more messed up than it alreadt was (like in one of the first episodes of S1, we literally see the skeleton of Aang's closest friend surrounded by firebenders, meaning he most likely murdered all of them by the time he died).

[@rasielcruz6168]

Imagine Katara using waterbending to freeze the water in your body, that's dark shit

[@admin.slayerenryu]

@@rasielcruz6168 Or Aang suffocating you by pulling the air out of your lungs.

[@brasswing2681]

@@admin.slayerenryu its not the fact that the writers weren't dark enough. Its the fact that Nickelodeon stopped most attempts by the creators to add even darker themes to the show and instead had to imply certain things. If Martin was a head writer he still wouldn't be allowed to go as dark as he wanted because Nickelodeon controlled what could be in a episode and what couldn't

[@JadaCarlton]

Fun fact: When Katara exploded the water attack from Hama with her hand, she was using a earthbending stance by standing her ground and facing it head on.

[@michealsquintspalledorous3360]

Just like what Aang told Katara when he was having trouble with Earthbending.. "To master Earthbending You got to stand your ground like a rock and face things head on.." or something along those lines.... I love how all the characters learn from each other! !

[@Dragonfly9307]

Makes sense to catch her off guard since they both had similar waterbending techniques.

[@Tupadre97]

right, that's why she was so shocked how she blocked it. then the next attack she also does an earthbending like attack to attack hama from above and below at the same time which spun her out which was lit too.

[@lukedangelo4807]

I just noticed it wow that’s super dope

[@devontekuykendall3565]

It's not an earth bending technique, it's utilizing the form. It's not earth bending. Dont go down that hole.

[@allayar6151]

Dude, the reason why she cried is because they are still literally kids and bloodbending is a scary shit.

[@quentinjones6877]

I haven't watched their reaction yet but did they really get mad at Katara crying at the end?

[@THE202]

"Enforcing your will over others" .. i don't think Katara would like such shit lol.

[@eggsnspam]

Nothing to do with them being kids. That's like torturing someone. In their world, you can bend almost anything and you have full control of your body. The fact that you can force people to do stuff, that's like saying "brainwashing" is ok. Basically the means are justified by the end result. So in a war, you can torture people, brainwash them, etc. We all know in our world, that just won't fly.

[@k.d3983]

SaviorOfNirn only toph and aang(kinda) are children. The other two are teenagers, so I don’t know why people view teenagers as children/kids when they’re clearly different from each other.

[@THE202]

@@k.d3983 Dude where on earth are 14-16 year olds not kids lmao.

[@darryljack6612]

Its sad, but i love the way in Hama's backstory, after she escaped. she could barely walk. Due to the lack of use of her legs and confinement. Her anger is understandable and sadly similar to real life.

[@firstplace3956]

I feel bad for her I’m surprised she didn’t kill herself or become a serial killer.

[@Sasleukun]

@@firstplace3956 Bro...SHE IS A SERIAL KILLER

[@winypacifist5034]

@@Sasleukun thank god

[@firstplace3956]

Sribandit not really she didn’t kill anyone.

[@Sasleukun]

@@firstplace3956 What do you think that she do to the prisoners? that on some time she just released everyone and everyone is happy? XD

[@g.k.4710]

One of the reasons Katara is my favorite isn't because she's an impressive bender, but because of her will to fight, and while her pride and will are also her greatest flaws, it's what makes her feel like a real character.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

To me that's the sign of good character writing where your greatest strengths are also your greatest weaknesses, bc that is something i find is also true in life, and to have a character reflect that makes them that much more real to me

[@666melodeath666]

Kataras Character: Im a Healer but “cocks gun”

[@g.k.4710]

@@666melodeath666 LOL Katara's the Cleric.

[@mariosmatzoros3553]

But she is a great bender though especially in season 3.

[@g.k.4710]

@@mariosmatzoros3553 oh I'm saying even though she is, it's not the reason she's my favorite.

[@gtd3765]

Favorite fan theory: Hama's escape is why the fire nation went back to the South pole looking for a water bender. Her escape was a motivator for why Katara's and Sokkas's mom died.

[@johnrebelet5754]

ooo daaaamn

[@ChroniclesOfArt]

Avatar lore is fucking crazy cause there is a reason for everything that happened

[@joselitopuzon5620]

The time gap is bullsht. She looks like 20s when she scape. And Katara age 4 to 5 when her mom dies. And Katara meet Hamas (70) at the age of 14. Sorry for my bad grammar. But the time gap is debunking ur Fan theory

[@BenJover]

​@@joselitopuzon5620 It doesn't matter what you think she looks like 🤦‍♂️ she said she was in there for decades

[@Diana-zl3ue]

“A month after the storm, she noticed she was missing” *some friend* LMAOO

[@larkynria2223]

And it was their mom she said, lol earlier he had said it would've been gran gran that they saw w/ Hama but the. Asked I she was the missing friend of their moms Or was it when gran gran was a child??

[@Chemeleon15]

@@larkynria2223 Katara's story was about her mother Roshi was talking about hama and the group assumed that Hama might have fit the story. The woman onscreen when Hama was abducted was definitely Katara's Gran-Gran, tho. Hama is just not the girl from the NiNi story.

[@cmmiestcat]

"Congratulations Katara, you're a blood bender now" Scariest line ever. The delivery... Even I would cry.

[@90sflower95]

Tbh I wouldn’t even care it’s my choice if I use it or not

[@Alan-xe4st]

@@90sflower95 She's crying cuz bloodbending f's up someone's mind very quickly, like Hama, Amon, and Tarrlok

[@90sflower95]

@@Alan-xe4st so what ? Again if u don’t wanna use it don’t use it.

[@90sflower95]

@@Alan-xe4st and plus no they literally were just ppl with a different mentality and environments. Hama literally was kidnapped and held for years Amon and Tarrlok were abused by their father. It’s not blood bending it’s self what made them like this

[@Alan-xe4st]

​@@90sflower95 You're actually right but wrong at the same time. I never said that the mentality and environments were not factors of them becoming like this. Here's the thing--once you learn bloodbending, you can't unlearn it. So you're constantly feeling and treating people, actual humans, as bodies of water. Katara never wanted this power because it's shown that Bloodbending is inherently evil--that those who have used it were messed up. That is not what Katara aims to be. Also, hypothetically, if Katara used Bloodbending during the war, their side would have been in a hypocritical state because the fire nation tortured their prisoners. They were fighting against them for a noble cause...why would they stoop down to their level? There's a reason why she outlawed it...And also Bloodbending was a part of Amon and Tarrlok's environment, so you're wrong there too.

[@milquetoast1808]

I was waiting for this..... to this day "The puppet master" is the most scariest episode ever lol..... oh and CAPTAIN PLANET!!!!!!!!!!

[@MJ_71312]

I remember being so scared after watching this the first time. It scarred me 😂

[@milquetoast1808]

@@MJ_71312 ikr.... even now when I hear the music, I look around and check my surroundings lol

[@haeckx94x]

I'm waiting for their "prison break" reaction 😉

[@Prince_the_One]

@@milquetoast1808 same lmfao

[@Pizzaman-jf2rg]

Have you seen The Great Divide? That shit is soo bad it scares me

[@bowdennthani732]

I don't think Aang would ever want to learn blood bending, no matter the circumstance...

[@royalflush5228]

@@Ayocartoonclips he learns to counter it, not use it

[@bowdennthani732]

@@Ayocartoonclips Aang never uses blood bending. He uses his power to resist it. And he bends people's energy to give them/take away their bending ability

[@GraveDigger35]

i mean to be fair, you can do some scary shit with Air bending as well

[@bowdennthani732]

@@GraveDigger35 yeah. You could... Aang wouldn't either

[@joesubel]

Technically a lot of fucked up shit could be done with bending. If the benders ever reach a certain level of mastery, earth benders could literally just instakill everyone by making the ground eat them, water benders could rip out all the moisture from a number of people just like what Katara was doing to the flowers, fire benders could manipulate the body heat of people and make them die of hypothermia or make them spontaneously combust, air benders could suck the air out of people's lungs or make those lungs explode.

[@Sthuthukile]

The reason Katara cried is because blood bending changes you, it corrupts you on the inside. You get hungrier and hungrier for more power the more you use it. Hama even says "I've never felt more alive" and stands taller and looks happier because it's like getting a fix, it's that addictive. In a way, this took Katara's innocence away... It activated a darkness within her that would always be there, waiting to be triggered

[@HisMajestyTheQween]

Legend of Korra further proves it

[@nnightkingj]

And that never happened with katara as far as we know she never used it again after the southern Raiders

[@wachotraefernet]

@@HisMajestyTheQween legend of korra ruined it, he didn't even need the full moon or to do any hand gestures. Korra pissed all over the cannon

[@elizabethgouverneur2972]

wachotraefernet no it didn’t it cleverly fit the cannon with new information that still makes sense for example the context of blood bending is you need the full moon because it makes you stronger so theoretically a strong enough bender can do it without one

[@PaintedHoundie]

@@wachotraefernet it really didnt. the full moon rule wasnt some magical thing, bending is just strongest during a full moon thats it. yakone and his kids are the only characters to utilize it and the technique died with them. Bloodbending is still heavily protected in the series. the full moon thing is really not a big deal, and its not crazy that a character practicing every full moon in the arctic would eventually surpass a character like hama, who had to learn how to use the technique in a cell away from any water filled environment. In fact, korra handles blood bending better, because they didnt learn those techniques with no training like katara did.

[@twilightturtle]

Dollars to doughnuts, Blood Bending would be classified as a War Crime and/or crimes against humanity.

[@Velg]

That's basically how it turns out in legend of korra

[@diamondrhino64]

@@moloddz4367 if you're one of his patrons don't do that shit

[@MomsAgainstCatboys]

When Katara becomes an adult, she sees to it becoming banned in all 5 nations.

[@Prince_the_One]

@@MomsAgainstCatboys You can't ban bending. That's stupid. It will find a way. Instead they should seek to regulate blood benders.

[@MomsAgainstCatboys]

@@Prince_the_One I'm not proposing it. It's what actually happened in their world. Katara saw to blood bending being banned in all 5 nations.

[@apandapin]

Nickelodeon: Hey, Halloween is coming up so you guys need to come up with an episode that'll spook the kids a little. Bryan and Mike: Say no more.

[@onyeukwuchinonso2170]

Oml 😂😂

[@gotanybeans7544]

The face stealer scared the hell out of me-

[@ashildrtheswift3028]

Well, it debuted on the 9th of November 2007, so not on Halloween

[@ScenicNsanity]

@@ashildrtheswift3028 it aired a week after Halloween which is close enough since these are created months in advance timing isn't always perfect.

[@ashildrtheswift3028]

@@ScenicNsanity Okay, and I said that it didn't air on Halloween. Which is true. Not sure what part of my comment confused you.

[@teachermarvin9373]

Lol, I loved all of y'alls reaction to hama blood bending "That's a problem" "That's dope" "THATS FUCKED UP"

[@Glitch_1000]

Yes! I was looking for someone to comment on this simultaneous yet different reaction! 🤣🤣🤣

[@SupportGamin2024]

The darkest avatar episode in the entire season

[@fir3gaming664]

entire show, arguably Korra too imo

[@TheSpiritOfTheHero]

@@fir3gaming664 Definitely the the darkest overall episode but Season 3 LOK has the two darkest moments.

[@nataliehamilton2924]

True but wait until they watch legends of Kora and she can blood bend better

[@KevinLopez-dm2tb]

Alex Hunt nahhh Korra had too many dark moments

[@vavo407]

Alex Hunt Korra is way darker

[@lincolneyar8269]

Bloodbending breaks the virtue of free will, I think.

[@CoutureThug]

But didn't the fire nation murder and capture people against their will? As long as you use it for good it's a dope power to have

[@Barksdale-em8sw]

@@CoutureThug Even fire benders murder civilians also you literally cant use it for good imprisonment sucks but its way better than having ur body functions taken away from you

[@phoebusapollo8365]

@@CoutureThug you can’t use it for good if the power itself is inherently evil. Taking away someone’s free will? robbing them of the use of their body? Practically imprison them in their own minds while they’re forced to watch as someone else takes over and *uses* their body? There’s no way to use that for “good.”

[@acethefiredragon8525]

Well that, but also the implications of what it’s fully capable of. This show is meant to be a bit kid friendly, but if it was something like AoT, using blood to break your victims bones, crack necks or folding their body the way it shouldn’t be, sucking their blood out or internally combusting them would be something they would definitely do. So not really a matter of free will but of all the horrible things you can do to someone.

[@dinodare1605]

The reason for Katara feeling uncomfortable is way more straight forward than you guys are thinking. She was taught that waterbending is healing and life. The extent that the old lady (don't know how to spell her name, maybe Hama) was taking it was repurposing it for destruction and death, Katara didn't like how she could kill a field of flowers, and dominate the body of others in what looks like a very painful way.

[@brianm3160]

Nobody: Katara: **Learns bloodbending on first try** Hama: **shocked pikachu face**

[@salvos4154]

*Then satisfied face*

[@Granglife]

More like proud. Hama seems like she was very talented like katara and the reason she learned it quickly was because Hama showed her it's possible plus she was already a master water bender

[@Someguyhere111]

You literally used the Nobody meme whilst stating what Katara did to get that reaction out of Hama. It makes zero sense.

[@brianm3160]

@@Someguyhere111 stop raining on people's parades!!!

[@salvos4154]

@@brianm3160 lol

[@zannchristo]

"Congratulations Katara, you're a blood bender" Mom Katara now has the power to make you go to your room, r u n

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

You cheat on katatra and she'll make you fold yourself

[@Unknown-ri5sx]

@@thatoneblackdude3333 I'm weak 😂

[@Starphoenix]

@@thatoneblackdude3333 Literally.

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@Starphoenix katatra : I know you were fucking that bitch in the igloo next door ! " literally turns you into a pretzel"

[@Prince_the_One]

@@thatoneblackdude3333 STAWWWWWWP LMFAOOO

[@AngryPieMan]

Sometimes when we have been touched by evil - there is a chance we become evil ourselves. Not because of what the evil did to us, but because of how we choose to respond. Hama went down a dark path. Katara chose something else. Her journey isn't over yet, though. *awaiting the Southern Raiders

[@jmanpolo5611]

@SaviorOfNirn yeah but all of us who aren't gonna pay for the patreon haven't seen their reactions yet.

[@jmanpolo5611]

@SaviorOfNirn my guy.. I watch alot of youtubers and if I paid $5 for each of their patreons that would add up very quickly.. I am happy with the amount of content I get for free.

[@jmanpolo5611]

@SaviorOfNirn I was pointing out how Joshua was saying how he was waiting to see the southern raiders reaction not that he can't wait for them to see it.

[@johnwalker1058]

When connecting the Puppetmaster episode to the Southern Raiders episode, I feel like Hama was supposed to represent a possible future for Katara, or what kind of person Katara could potentially develop into if she wound up fully giving into her bitterness and rage from losing her mother to the Fire Nation.

[@eringoblah]

I'm with Lupa, it's just too messed up and if I ever had to use it, I'd feel as bad as I would if I'd had to kill someone. Katara's compassionate and would cry about that too.

[@shanika4160]

I know I’m late but I think that’s the point of it. Bloodbending by principle is the EXACT SAME as rape. It’s about control and domination and disregarding someone else’s personhood. Given the network of course they weren’t gonna be so obvious with handling a theme like this so bloodbending makes sense in the work and acknowledges an unspoken side to the war.

[@controlman7490]

​@Shanika Blood bending innocent people is wrong, but given the time period they're in where at any moment you could be surrounded by Fire Nation soldiers blood bending is a good tool to have. Yes, it takes away bodily autonomy, but some people deserve it. You can't seriously tell me a tyrant like Ozai who planned on exterminating the entire Earth Kingdom doesn't deserve to get blood bent. Also, for defensive purposes. If you get jumped by 20 fire benders I'm pretty sure you'd use blood bending on them. It's a guaranteed win and the ability doesn't have to be painful. You can control people and simply restrain them painlessly or make them pass out.

[@ThoraxetheImpaile100]

@@controlman7490 That may be, but once the war was over, then what? Once someone who has lost all hope gains power, it's very hard for them to let it go. Hama is a good example of this. Her initial reasons for creating the technique may have been justified since she was a prisoner of war, and had to use the resources available to her to escape. Once she did however, Hama chose to use it on innocent people rather than let it go. When you have the power to control others, would you really be able to give it up? When does it stop? This is what Katara no doubt realized and why she would eventually work to see blood bending outlawed.

[@controlman7490]

@@ThoraxetheImpaile100 Yes, most people would be able to give it up because we're not absolutely demented like Hama. Besides, it was decades of years of abuse that turned Hama into the monster she was. Someone who hasn't experienced that trauma and just learns blood bending like Katara would most likely be completely normal. I know for myself I'd only use the technique on people who are clear threats to me or my loved ones. I'm not gonna be some psycho kidnapping people and holding them in a dungeon. Blood bending should solely be used for good.

[@cesterjr]

Me during this whole episode “THEY’RE NOT EVEN READY!”

[@travisherndon94]

Fun fact: The voice actress for Hama is Tress MacNeille whose done many roles throughout different cartoons with her most well known ones being Mom from Futurama, Charlotte Pickles from Rugrats, Arnold's grandma from Hey Arnold and Dot from Animanics.

[@freeamericanthinker558]

Oh, no wonder she sounded familiar.

[@RamdomView]

So that's why I though she was going slap someone.

[@rubixqoob8601]

Tress Rocked

[@jonahs92]

I KNEW SHE SOUNDED FAMILIAR BRUH

[@SunGawdRa]

Wow, she was Dot? Man, Animaniacs was a while ago...

[@Ries41794]

Also if you remember back to episode 2 Season one when the find Monk Gyatso body surrounded by all the fire nation bodies it’s implied he pulled the air out of all their lungs. So yeah there are advanced techniques from each element

[@otaldojuca]

It's not a good power to have. Bloodbending is the type of shit that would be banned in wars (like atomic bombs, weaponized gas, bio warfare, etc in our world). Learning this type of bending is a curse, and Katara noticed that. In the end, the puppetmaster won.

[@controlman7490]

"It's not a good power to have" can literally defeat any opponent in mere seconds💀.

[@mollywopper22]

@@controlman7490 so can nerve gas. Yet for some reason its literally illegal everywhere. Ask yourself why.

[@controlman7490]

@@mollywopper22 Not the same. Nerve gas inevitably causes extreme pain to the victim while blood bending does not. Whether a blood-bending victim experiences pain is totally up to the blood-bender. Hama managed to control Aang and Sokka and cause no pain, which she intentionally did. If I'm a blood bender I can force my opponent to safely tie themselves up and I've just defeated them without causing pain or death. Blood-bending is probably one of the most humane ways to subdue an opponent.

[@shslnobody1070]

​@@controlman7490 if we go even somewhat scientific it would probably cause excruciating pain because it is literally some forcibly moving your body in unnatural ways it would be like your bones are breaking themselves

[@lenalouwho4100]

With the blood bending thing it’s more based on the person then the actual technique itself. Because the technique itself is cold and it’s really useful, but looking at the person as in Katara who is trying to conserve that “life is precious, love for all” type of view on life (even with a war going on) the action of basically reaching into somebody and controlling them isn’t aligning with her.

[@andrewmahabir589]

She does use it though later and not full of love but she was full of rage too

[@captainteeko4579]

To katara it’s almost like rape in a way while for Hama it’s a way for justice and revenge

[@lenalouwho4100]

ANDREW MAHABIR Yeah she used it on her mother’s killer. Her mother’s death is the reason she’s all “live is precious”, but that obviously wouldn’t matter against her mother’s killer

[@mikkosimonen]

It just hit me how short a hundred years actually is. Like, during that flashback of everything changing? There were people in the village who still remember Avatar Roku.

[@m..m8534]

Realistically, depends on your age

[@dashinhayes]

And ppl in this world live well over 100 so what really is 100 years loo

[@lalalalisa41]

For a one time antagonist, Hama was a pretty fantastic character. As we saw, she wasn't always this way, but because of war and how the Fire Nation treated her and her fellow tribesmen, she was warped into this person. It's pretty sad to see honestly, how someone could turn so resentful that they start to do onto others what was done to them. Hama was basically Jet but worse and to the point of no return. And despite Hama being locked away again, she still essentially won in the end. She laid out her terms, which was to bring another bloodbender into the world, and she succeeded. That's why Katara cried in the end. She not only fulfilled Hama's twisted wish, but because waterbending is a part of her, this "evil" technique is now a part of her. She was forced to learn a technique that she never wanted to learn and can never unlearn now. To say the least, it's pretty traumatizing. It's also why I've always saw this episode as a loss of innocence, because it's like Katara was tainted because of what she had to do. Such a dark episode! And bloodbending is only OP for Katara if there's a full moon and she's willing to actually use that technique (seeing as she seems to hate what it represents).

[@rannierunsfast]

It’s so fucked up what happened to her. Imprisoned and suffered for decades. I totally understand why she snapped.

[@MikeGanja420]

She is NOT an antagonist and neither is JET they just had horrible experiences with the fire nation and wanted revenge that doesnt make them antagonist

[@lalalalisa41]

@@MikeGanja420 You do know what "antagonist" means right?

[@Shadowjedi-kf7pe]

I guess with most people it does take one nasty day to make them go nutsy ko ko. I’m looking at you, Joker!

[@goldeneye3100]

I don’t think your last statement is true because don’t we see katara bloodbend the Seahawk soldier thinking it was the guy who killed her dad without a full moon? Or was there a full moon in that episode

[@sg0648]

when i was younger bloodbending shook me to the core

[@johnwalker1058]

When I first saw this episode in middle school, I had nightmares!

[@ezradison9757]

Me too, bloodbending really terrifying

[@stuffdude6212]

The picture they were trying to paint was power... at what cost. It's like knowing how to fight and knowing how to kill. Being able to knock hoes out is one thing, but crossing that line and killing someone.. that's a different story.

[@rilisetsky3620]

fun fact: Hama at the second hand said "My work here is done" which means, even if she's lock up, her tradition of using blood bending was passed to another Generation, which is katara.

[@nataliehamilton2924]

I've watched this show meny years ago but y'all reaction makes it brand new

[@lily-_-]

Watching Katara cry at the end always makes me cry, too. Whether it was reasonable of her to refuse learning to bloodbend or not, she was so clearly violated and forced to do something against her morals. It's horrible.

[@andrewbui8295]

agreed. you could be raised to be the kindest, compassionate, most selfless waterbender, and yet bloodbending only once could totally corrupt you and take a toll on your mental well-being. psychologically mess you up, and warp your old personality into a cruel and sadistic one. notice how bloodbending is like how serial killers came to be. torture animals long enough and actually enjoying it, you're bound to feel the same way when you're doing it to other humans. the same thing applies to the unfortunate childhoods of Tarrlok and his brother Noatak.

[@che6079]

We still gotta remember despite everything that's happened with them throughout the series, war and all, Katara is a motherly caring character, but also she's 14. If some creepy old lady tried to make me, a 14 year old, learn how to control the blood in people's bodies, I'd be weirded out and hesitant too

[@tazm2480]

"The rats that scurried across the floor of my cage were nothing more than skins filled with liquids" deep yet terrifying words

[@Matt_fxx]

If it wasn’t for Hama learning blood bending, katara’s mom would been alive. The fire nation started killing off waterbender’s once they realize water benders could blood bend. Even if it was a southern water tribe tradition.

[@johans3164]

oooh shit. thats insane. i never think of that. Hama hurt Katara in more ways than one

[@Matt_fxx]

Johan S yea it really sucks.

[@anouar4664]

Thats not cannon...

[@anouar4664]

And its not hama's fault she tried to survive

[@Matt_fxx]

alain true not cannon but it’s the only logical explanation to why the fire nation started killing off water benders. The fire nation didn’t kill off earth benders because they really weren’t a threat except for toph because of her metal bending.

[@Kidapollo92]

When Katara remarks that Hama reminded her of her grandmother, she is holding a cabbage shaped like Kanna's face. This is considered to be one of the darkest episodes in the series, as this was a Halloween special released in October 2007. It has many of the conventional elements of a horror film. This episode called into question whether the Avatar receives a boost to his/her power from the full moon like 'normal' waterbenders, and by extension firebenders with the comet, as Aang could not break free from Hama's bloodbending while Katara could. Although Katara uses bloodbending in a later episode, this is the only time the technique is actually mentioned in the series. This is the second and final time that Toph is seen blushing. In Hama's flashback, one of the villagers surrounding Kanna is similar in appearance to Toph, while another young boy has a warrior's wolf tail hairstyle like Sokka's. Kanna herself is sporting hair loopies like Katara. This is the only episode in Book Three that references episodes from Book One in the "Previously on Avatar ..." section. This is the fifth episode that does not appear in a "Previously on Avatar.." recap. The others are "The Great Divide", "The Fortuneteller", "The Northern Air Temple", and "The Painted Lady". This episode was included in the digital compilation NickToons Spooky Halloween on iTunes from 2009. Aang does not bend any element in this episode.

[@ManuelMr46]

Thank u

[@bruceturnbull4219]

Doesn’t Toph blush when she says she wants to go on a field trip with Zuko?

[@Tazer391]

false, toph blushes when suki saves her from the serpents pass, sokkas master episode and this episode

[@HisMajestyTheQween]

I was about to tell you not to spoil, but then I remembered they finished the show on Patreon

[@Kidapollo92]

Tazer391 how is that false I said this was the last time she blushes and that blush when suki saves her already happened proving me right this is the LAST a time she blushes

[@yoyoyo9035]

Just finished watching the debate, thanks for the cool down.

[@xChaoticSlick]

Same lol

[@littlebigmarc]

What a mess right. Both are clowns

[@Bella-mu2ew]

Same, this is a nice break from that mess

[@mellonlord4616]

Exactly. I just really wanted one of them squaring up, two old men swaying, "come er whippersnapper I'll pop you." Chris Wallace made me laugh though. I thought he was going to send Trump to time out.

[@garifunaa6054]

yooo same lmfao

[@tzukishiro]

"it's a war" boy those two would send nukes day 1 in a war wouldn't they? Lol

[@jellalfernandes1309]

😂

[@MiLLz830]

Easy win lol

[@dhamin8168]

Well they’re taking about a 100 year war in which their side has a very unlikely chance of winning.

[@Agent719]

The other fucked up thing is that Hama wasn't really fighting a war. She wasn't some guerilla fighter taking out fire nation soldiers. She was camped out in a village torturing her neighbors.

[@kent24]

when yaboyroshi uploads Me: *cLIcK*

[@xzerenx4480]

I just love Lupas "BURF" sound effect.

[@decoy_bait548]

AIYY

[@dripdoriya1707]

15:22 the fact that she says sorry to Aang but not Sokka. She cares about her man more then her brother 😭😭💀🤣

[@franciskaranja9293]

13:01 three completely different perspectives

[@otdtyh]

Their reactions when Toph metalbends the key, I can’t. 😂

[@julianr8544]

Bro this episode was on some Scooby Doo Witch movie levels. Anyone else remember how freaky that movie was? Dude summoned a whole spirit and got dragged back into whatever hell she came from.

[@jennaforest827]

14:36 - not sure if anyone said this yet, but some of those moves that Katara used was based on earthbending technique. Like a call back to what Iroh said about drawing wisdom from other nations to make each other stronger. 16:03 - Ha, speaking of which... How far are y'all in Korra? Cause I know there was a edit referencing season 3 a while back.

[@murlocow2996]

They’re in season 4 episode 9

[@decoy_bait548]

Zayd Kazi wait so they are basically almost done with korra in real time?

[@murlocow2996]

decoy_bait yes

[@outtagoodnamesdangit]

Me: "Well, debates are over... I need to unwind. What can I do to rela-" YaBoyRoshi: THE PUPPETMASTER Me: "THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF RELAXING BUT I AM NOT COMPLAINING."

[@UncannyAura]

"I've never felt more alive!" The chills! xD

[@thelegendhimself.]

18:31 they said it was too dark but in legend of Korra they had Zaheer using airbending to literally suck the air out of the earth Queen which of course killed her 😂😂😂

[@mars99]

The superpowers of each element: Fire - Lightning Earth - Metal Air - [SPOILERS] Water - Full body control Yea I think we all know whats the scariest element out there

[@maggoteater2290]

Air : flying and the [spoiler] Fire : lightning and [Spoiler]

[@MasterJP28]

Earth - lava Fire - Dance Water - purify spirits Air - breath taking

[@Temi_the_GOAT]

It’s not a spoiler, they’ve watched season 3 of LoK

[@voninja8684]

What's the spoiler for air? Haven't seen avatar in a while

[@MasterJP28]

@@voninja8684 entering the void...

[@tofu_golem]

When Katara cried at the end, so did I. The finale is such a gut punch.

[@brianm3160]

Hama: "it's impossible to fight your way out" Katara: **Bet**

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

Katara got some straight asspulls like no-one else lol

[@nnightkingj]

GokuInfintysaiyan I mean she never used it against another water Bender so she just assumed she couldn't

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

@@nnightkingj Its not that simple. Hama took YEARS to learn how to do it. Katara learned it in seconds. It has its own unique form and everything. That is ludicrous no matter how you slice it

[@queensaharaice7376]

@@GokuInfintysaiyan I see where you're coming from but Hama is over 80 years old, that definitely has a toll on how powerful she is. Plus, I like to think Hama let her escape her grip so Katara could learn bloodbending. A comment somewhere here mentions it, I think Hama let Katara beat her, then put here in a position where she would be forced to use blood bending.

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

QueenSahara Ice Hama was mortified at Katara’s power and lucked out, you can tell by her expressions! Even if she did plan it... Katara learned it IN SECONDS. She copied 1 FORM and somehow she learned the whole style? That’s pillar man levels of stupid right there (learning a whole ass language in just a couple sentences)

[@darthroden]

Bloodbending for Waterbending is like using the Dark Side of the Force for a Jedi.

[@imanik5784]

Just started binging your Avatar reactions, thank goodness y'all uploaded!!

[@river8834]

YESSSSSSS literally r]the only thing keeping me alive is your guys’ reactions

[@INergalI]

Can relate.

[@christopherbishop2570]

That's.....Really bad...😓😓😓

[@christopherbishop2570]

@Nio37 Do you mean me?

[@river8834]

Nio37 N O ...

[@manuelbuitenhuis7337]

@@river8834 whats on your mind buddy

[@arturo435]

Wait, I never noticed the Igloos BURNING in the background during Hama's flashback? Um, is that even possible?

[@thisusernameis2long927]

Yes, it’s possible.

[@XxLuFex]

There's a theory that says Hama is the cause of death of Katara's mom. When Hama escaped, the Fire Nation thought she would return to the South Pole, so they went to Katara's village in search of her. The Fire Nation wouldn't know about Katara, she was too young. They were probably searching for Hama. They probably killed Katara's mom because they thought she was the powerful bloodbender that escaped and they wouldn't risk locking her away again.

[@martinvillareal4409]

I’m surprised you guys didn’t mentioned how “bloodbending” is a surprisingly dark concept for Nickelodeon to allowed on their channel. I would’ve thought there would be a ton of “this is not a kids show !”

[@cky7765]

Good thing they aren't Disney

[@pwojo9776]

Hama is the reason Katara and Sokka's mother was killed. Before Hama escaped, they were still taking water-benders hostages. What changed? Hama didn't kill those guards, they saw what she did, they knew what she was doing, they realized that it was dangerous to leave water-benders alive, that her knowledge could get out to the world. They checked the first place Hama would've went back to after her escape (probably after scouring the coasts, rivers, ports, harbors, military bases, maybe even the colonies, etc.) the Southern Tribe. The raiding party leader never said they were looking for a child. He just believed it was Kya. He knew they were looking for an adult woman. Say there was a bounty put up with an image and general description (water-bender, long dark hair, fair-skinned, dangerous, in her 40's-50's, if you have any info please report it to the military, etc.; but the info on blood-bending was like top-secret cause if that info got out, it'd cause hysteria), Katara being like 4-5 would've been cleared. While Hama was hiding right under the Fire Nation's noses, fear and paranoia within the Fire Nation army lead to them to continue committing genocide.

[@ero442]

Justifying blood bending is like justifying murder, the way I see it. The only reason to do either is in self-defense, definitely wont go around doing it, "just because you can". Blood bending is like the cruciatus and imperius curse combimbed and there's a reason why they are unforgivable curses. It's immoral.

[@controlman7490]

That's funny you say that because even murder can be justified. Obviously, blood bending an innocent person is evil, but doing it to someone who's actively trying to kill you is not.

[@ero442]

@@controlman7490 right which is why i mentioned self-defense, but other than that... won;t do it willy nilly

[@controlman7490]

@@ero442 Yea.

[@Ayocartoonclips]

Some see the technique as evil yet I still don't see the problem in it. If I were a waterbender I'd be happy to know that shit. Katara was shown blood bending as something evil when it's also a good thing. So I don't feel that it's a messed up things since nothing is just only used for evil. Realistically blood bending would be real help in the medical field. What if someone has a blood clot somewhere? With blood bending can help blood clots by unclogging them real quick. Blood bending probably could help against blood disorders too. What if someone body part is messed up and they're trying to get it to function again? You can bloodbend the body part by slick moving it a bit to help them regain some strength in moving it on their own. What if someone is having a heart attack ? They can blood bend their heart back right and probably lower their high blood pressure.

[@gustavobessoni8301]

To this day, the story Katara tells about her mom's friend is one of the creepiest I've ever heard.

[@NarutoUzumaki-ko2te]

3:31 He gave him that “you a grown ass man” look 😂

[@juanfajardo1295]

And this is the episode where everyone realized how scary waterbending can really be

[@Diana-zl3ue]

I understand why he said it was such a messed up move, in a sense we saw innocence being taken away. She was forced to learn it because if not she’s lose her brother and freaking Aang, the ONLY HOPE to end this war. Blood bending is essentially rape by the same consequences it has. But at least it’s Katara, she won’t abuse the power. It’s better to have this method than to be helpless again in the future

[@controlman7490]

It may be similar to rape, but it's still not inherently wrong. The same way some evil people deserve to get raped themselves some people deserve to get blood bent. Plus, unlike rape blood bending can actually be used to defend yourself expeditiously. You could neutralize an attacker in seconds.

[@lilscooter93]

"lmao i was so loud and so wrong" that's a mood lmao. everyone always thinks hama is somehow linked to the story katara was telling though, don't feel bad!

[@SellavinAtoms]

the episode ended in a very dark way because even though they won it still they still lost because katara was forced to use a dangerous technique that she had no intention of learning but was forced to use it to save the lives of her friends it makes it a hollow victory.

[@nataiyagarrison9383]

the whole air nomad, southern water benders, metal benders, & sokka at one table 😂😂

[@windwulfboi]

Funny thing, because of how blood vessels are to varying pressure it’d take an insane amount of force to rip blood out of someone unless it’s all focused through specific areas full of capillaries and no skin to fight back with its high tensile strength. So really the only places to “rip blood out” would be through the eyes or open wounds.

[@markongchangco1537]

I like to think Hama just "played the villain" and let herself lose so she could pass the skill. She had the skill for years (in a land of so many guinea pigs). I think Hama taking control of Aang and Sokka was so Katara would experience the feelings necessary to learn the skill. I think Hama's goal was for the skill itself to survive because her generation of benders got wiped out. It could've made Katara sick to her stomach or disgusted with herself that she never uses it and that would be enough so long as someone knows how to use the skill. Lock it away in a forbidden book or whatever so long as it's not FORGOTTEN or lost to time. Think about it. She may not be a water bending master (like Pakku), but she had ~60 years to master blood bending. In that time you would think she would learn to bend herself (her own blood) to defend against other water benders (or any other blood bending trick). And just like you guys said, blood bending is just so against Katara's nature. It would be like Aang using earth bending to beat Toph when she was training him.

[@nachoquesoso947]

Earth Bending -> Metal Bending -> Lava Bending Water Bending -> Blood Bending Fire Bending -> Electric Bending Air Bending -> Oxigen Bending out of lungs

[@roguenerdd]

IVE BEEN WAITING GOR THIS!

[@PhirePhlame]

I'd say reaching into somebody and forcibly controlling their body is a very dark kind of power. The kind that, once you've done it, you don't just forget it. Your conscience forever knows that you've crossed that line.

[@faureamour]

Damn, Lupa looked like he needed someone to hold him throughout this episode. Don't go into a haunted house or watch a scary movie with him.

[@bunningssnags6104]

Btw a fun fact about the raids. The reason they raided is because if they assumed the airbending avatar was dead, the next avatar would be water. Seeing they dont have a chance against the north they went for the south taking every bender in hopes they were an avatar

[@jayuchiha4478]

Been waiting for y'all to get farther into this season especially in the double digit episodes

[@syarifafatimaha]

Also don't forget that blood bending could be done only during the full moon, cause many people forget that. The other dark thing about blood bending is that it could make people mad with power, just like Katara said "To reach deep inside someone to control them". Blood bending is not only the dark side of water bending, it could also be the bright side if used in medicine, imagine just how easy it is to stop bleeding. All in all, it's the user that matters.

[@TypicalCynic_]

Blood bending could reach so much higher potential in a more mature adult swim setting. Just imagine entire armies of soldiers having blood ripped out of their eyes, ears, nose, and mouth as their bodies are literally bled out to death. That shit would be Castlevania levels of brutal.

[@humanfighter6251]

LMAOOOOO "That's a problem..." "THAT'S DOPE" "That's fucked up..."

[@casper1937]

"Congratulations Katara your a bloodbender"

[@thatonenbafan4872]

Chills

[@tempsitch5632]

*you're

[@PaintedHoundie]

Villagers: "wait, her too? Ayy get her"

[@casper1937]

@@tempsitch5632 bruh don't correct me it says your

[@PurpleOpinionM]

I feel like a part of kataras grief is that hama managed to taint her culture that katara is fiercely proud of, showing us that war brings the worst out of everyone

[@joshyearn5285]

That water tribe lady in the Hama flashbacks wasn’t the mom but it likely could have been gran gran.

[@tempsitch5632]

Gran Gran didn't grow up there.

[@FamilyGirl566]

@@tempsitch5632 no but she did move there so it was her

[@tempsitch5632]

@@FamilyGirl566 You’re confused.

[@FamilyGirl566]

@@tempsitch5632 no it's true

[@acsound]

Thinking about this today: the White Lotus considered bringing Hama in, but Pakku (b/c chauvinism) and Jeong Jeong (b/c of her rage toward fire benders -- and it doesn't help that JJ and Iroh were both in the FN military) decided against having her join up. Thus, this OP woman is holed up here: taunting innocent civilians.

[@seanovak]

Yoooo I remember when this scared the shit outta me as a kid-

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

Blood bending is the classic “the end justifies the means” debate. It’s also a slippery slope that can potentially lead to rationalizing all kinds of horrific acts.

[@etherealnolan]

I feel so bad for Katara because Hama was so manipulative and abusive. Imagine finding someone who can teach you about your culture and they trick you into performing so evil. Katara is still a child, no matter how mature. Hama is a POS. Also, that scream Hama does when Katara flips her shit makes me LOL everytime.

[@abilawaandamari8366]

In Korra the bending is even more fleshed out even air bending is terrifying. And high level bloodbending pretty much can only be stopped with the Avatar State.

[@SeZ_LeZ]

Best episode period. Can't wait to see your reactions once I get home from work, just 2 more hours 🔥

[@TheFlexibilityMaster]

Also according to the creators, bloodbending is the only bending that can cause insanity to the user. Everytime you use it, it apparently degrades your mental state a little more.

[@dreadcaptainb3463]

Damn I need these to come out sooner!! I'm basically rewatching with yall and I love it. Feels like I'm watching with my buds cause I have so many of the same thoughts you guys do!

[@acethefiredragon8525]

With blood bending, you can suck out their blood. You can make them internally combust, or you can make them break their own bodies and limbs. Literally folding them the way your body is not suppose to be folding. If this show was something like AoT and not a kids targeted show, they would’ve definitely done that.

[@ryanperez5457]

Now that I think about it; the water nation has no business losing right next to a vast ocean while standing on a water ice glacier. There were so many creative opportunities Dudes could have made a localized storm Frozen them like what happened to azula Turned the ice under them into a surface as slippery as an ice rink Im pretty sure you could freeze the water vapor in there lungs or maybe frozen the water in their eyes and blinded them Ice spikes from the ground Turning the ice underneath them to water Also aren't their ships STEAM powered?

[@zhaquiri]

It's the moral aspect of bloodbending that fucks up Katara's mind; the "forcing your own will over theirs" part. When you battle someone 1 on 1, you're on even ground, but when you bend their blood, that's another story. Also, look at airbending. Aang could probably just pull the air out of every enemy's lungs straight up, but do you expect him to do it even if they're in a war? And if he did do it, would that not be fucked up? It's straight up murder. It's like playing chess: both sides need to have their pieces. If you have your pieces but take away the other side's pieces, is it really fair to call yourself the winner? Also, I don't blame Hama for what she became, even though it's ridiculous to punish even the innocent bystanders just because they were born in a nation they didn't necessarily choose to be born in.

[@albino5301]

I get that blood bending is edgy but it’s also useful like what if ang needs a blood transfusion or something it’s not just a weapon it’s a advanced healing skill as well

[@JadaCarlton]

And another fun fact: Tress MacNeille (the voice of Dot from Animaniacs) is voicing Hama

[@andrewcontreras7307]

Hamma is the reason katara's mom is dead. But I'll get in to that when y'all get to the southern raiders ep.

[@keijuaniapowers6655]

How is she the reason???

[@andrewcontreras7307]

Hamma escaped the fire nation, so they went looking for her. They go looking for her in the southern water tribe. They know how dangerous she is( blood bending) so they're going to try to kill her. Only the southern water tribe has no idea of hammas ability or escape. Kataras mom says she's the last water bender and says take me as a prisoner, "sorry we're not taking prisoners to day" (cause they know how dangerous the blood bender is). Up until kataras mom died, the fire nation thought they had all the southern water benders, cause up until katara hamma was the last water bender.

[@cat56789]

I agree and I wanna add on to your point the soilder that took kataras mom out also said “my resources told me there’s another water bender here” and who’s the only person that could know that??? HAMA a water bender

[@nymeria1160]

Blood Bending would be valuable not only defensively/offensively but medically too. Imagine having the ability to break up blood clots and heal clogged arteries with that kind of bending. Katara's pain is from being violated. Her trust in Hama, her ability to say yes or no to doing something she considered amoral. Psychologically what Hama did was harmful but hopefully Katara doesn't allow it to corrupt her.