The Quirks of Cat Eyes & Eagle Eyed In Project Zomboid

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@CatNibbles Жыл бұрын

Always felt like I get way more out of cat eyes, and it's always nice to be able to see in the dark much easier, especially when the power goes out and you go into larger buildings with little natural light.

@emekos_ Жыл бұрын

At 2 points it's always worth it to take cat eyes

@Zeithri 11 ай бұрын

I always pick Keen Hearing, Cat's Eyes and Eagle Eyes.

@acctsys Жыл бұрын

I think a mod that adjusts darkness to a lunar cycle and considering weather would be a nice touch.

@clem-hk2di Жыл бұрын

It already works like that, each moon phase provides a different amount of ambient light during nighttime, ranging from 0.0 (New Moon) to 0.7 (Full Moon). And weather is also considered, you can see how dark it is in the middle of the day when there is a storm.

@acctsys Жыл бұрын

@@clem-hk2di Oh, I see. Cat's eyes really does me good. I haven't noticed.

@PlasmaticMink Жыл бұрын

Cat's eyes will probably be a lot better when light propagation is introduced in build 42

@Retanaru Жыл бұрын

it'll be interesting to see what happens when they rebalance traits.

@TrinityUser Жыл бұрын

Commenting for the algo. Thanks for making content, Retanaru.

@argenthellion Жыл бұрын

Cat's eyes is a must-have, especially on multiplayer because most servers tend to retain or even lower visibility to keep the zombies more of a threat. As far as Eagle Eye goes, it's not worth the investment of points. PS EDIT: If you have Cat's Eyes on your character and you're running single player, amping the brighteness up to high actually allows you to raid during the night, as even during the pitch-black hours you have just enough visibility to navigate. The only "issue" is that not even Cat's Eyes and high brightness can help you spot Zombies when wandering through grassy areas or forests, so you should keep away from those during the night if you intend to raid then.

@fahrradmittelfranken8207 Жыл бұрын

I just hand axe and flashlight during power out nights.

@IschmarVI Жыл бұрын

eagle eyes is effectively even 2 points more expensive than its nominal cost as it is mutually exclusive with short sighted which literally does nothing.

@yastreb. 11 ай бұрын

@@IschmarVI Short sighted does decrease your foraging radius unless you wear glasses. Also I think only the glasses you get from character creation will work, not random glasses found on zombies. Still I agree short sighted is very much worth it, just remember to unequip your glasses when not foraging and favourite them so you can't drop them.

@Guts-the-Berserker 6 ай бұрын

I think I tested the Short Sighted Glasses interaction before & it works with any glasses.

@IschmarVI 3 ай бұрын

@@yastreb. bit late on the replay. But well, short sighted gives -2 foraging radius, which is removed if you are wearing glasses or reading glasses (the latter of which doesn't really make sense but whatever). However, glasses themselves also give as 2.5% penalty on foraging. So that's what it does: you lose 2.5% foraging range which is ... almost nothing. And these 2.5% are what "literally" was referring to :p And it works on all glasses, not just the starting ones. Also, short sighted does not seem to have any other effect.

@bobaorc7839 Жыл бұрын

My favorite settings: Dark as possible. Sprinter zombies. Zombies active during the day. Insane population. Start on December 1st. Power and water already turned off. The only viable time to loot is during the pitch black night. You want to loot during the day? Enjoy the next and last 15 seconds of your life.

@Lynchblade 9 ай бұрын

And I thought i was a masochist...~

@beatinbuzzers 11 ай бұрын

Just wanna say thank you to Retanaru for all the hard work and dedication you put into your content. I cannot tell you how many times I've had to correct chat with the knowledge I've learned from your videos. EVERY time I do such things (correct chat), I then send them to your KZbin channel, and tell them they can thank me later. LOL, much love buddy and keep up the excellent work!

@bossman983 11 ай бұрын

If you're trying to minmax foraging, Eagle Eye *does* give one of the highest foraging radius bonuses, at +1.0. Most other perks that increase the radius fall in the +0.2 to +0.7 range, but they also improve your finds, so finding the right combo to stack up can make you a foraging menace. Unfortunately, that ends up being *a lot* of points, so you have to ask if you'd rather have better time foraging or start with 10 Fitness/Strength.

@wgairborne209 Жыл бұрын

Yoooo, new Ret video. Keep it up man, love getting useful info from you.

@Buglin_Burger7878 11 ай бұрын

The fact Cat Eye not only costs less the Eagle Eye but Eagle Eye itself doesn't specify it doesn't work at night is just terrible. This game has so many designs that contradict a super serious realistic zombie sim that you can die from one small mistake. I really wish things were clear as the lack of clarity and sometimes gamelike unfairness holds back this game. I want this game to be the best it can be, not the current 50 guide hidden unfair mechanic it is. This is the difference between it being more popular and what it is now.

@sketty5069 3 ай бұрын

very late to the party of zomboid. having a blast with the game. this channel and atmoduck have became my go to. your rambles about the game and traits are perfect when i am building-farming or what ever! cheers

@musAKulture 11 ай бұрын

i love your videos. no padding, no bullshit.

@nikewilly8404 Жыл бұрын

Cat eyes are are a must on a no sleep server.

@justgrudd 11 ай бұрын

I pretty much always use cat eyes, I guess I hadn't played without it for so long I didn't notice just how much of a difference it makes, though I usually play with near-sighted too so unless wearing glasses really does remove the penalty the benefit from cats eyes would most likely be less noticeable. Though obviously the brightness is something I noticed immediately (I thought that was the only benefit to using cat eyes, not the fov increase)

@IschmarVI 3 ай бұрын

basically, cat eyes makes the game playable during nighttime

@justgrudd 3 ай бұрын

@@IschmarVI considering how dangerous 1 zombie can be if you're unaware of it, yeah I guess so

@Симплициссимус 9 ай бұрын

If wiki won't lies - both traits give a significant boost in search mod. It would be intresting to test that ability too.

@Mhattrix Жыл бұрын

Finally the actual range increase of eagle's eye, which i never take

@lesnoyelf228 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos. Can you examine a weird animation when you press (default controls) alt + LMB while moving AND without weapon equipped? The character kind of pushes his hands up and this animation has different sound than any other attack/shoving.

@Retanaru Жыл бұрын

its a canceled stomp.

@lesnoyelf228 Жыл бұрын

@@Retanaru If you mean the video you posted not long ago, that is not. In a combat stance, press alt + lmb while moving with no weapon, in that video you press only buttons shift spacebar and movement key. A bit different.

@Retanaru Жыл бұрын

@@lesnoyelf228 The stomp animation raises the arms and legs, but the legs are doing the walking animation so it only makes the stomp sound + hand movement. while walking hold alt and press space. it'll make the stomp sound. Makes no sound if you do it while standing still with no target. Doing this (alt + space while moving with no weapon in hands) to a zombie will always knock them onto the ground. Assuming you do it right. It's a weird bug that lets you stomp standing zombies. The alt+LMB method should also do this, but its unreliable for me.

@lesnoyelf228 Жыл бұрын

@@Retanaru Thanks a lot

@KissyKaede 11 ай бұрын

I've never played without Cat Eye, not once in over 1100 hours.

@sarris3712 11 ай бұрын

pz has the darkest nights of all games i've played, so max darkness setting terrifies me. i should do it though :p

@Gigadramon6 Жыл бұрын

So what does it look like if you have both?

@Stiggandr1 10 ай бұрын

Hey Retanaru, I have an observed phenomenon that I'd love for you to check out! I wanted to do a playthrough where I start at the top of one of the tallest buildings in Louisville and fight my way down. I decided this would be a stealth play, with knives and wearing no shoes. It seemed to go very well. Despite the very high density of zombies, I was about to walk around the room and kill them with relative ease, or pull zombies by peaking around a doorframe until one noticed me, or simply bumping into them one at a time. However, I started to notice a quirk. No matter how many killed, they would keep flooding into the empty top floor. I don't think it was sound, because they wouldn't know where I was when they entered. I wonder if the zombie migration habits you've observed in the past have a peculiar interaction with vertical spaces. I hypothesize that we don't observe this problem elsewhere because it's lower floors, one and two stories high, and so that floor is occupied over the full loaded regions, but when dealing with the top floors, they can be 100% emptied out, triggering the aggressive migration. This could be potentially valuable knowledge since B42 is introducing 32 floors of verticality.

@יותםהגלעדי 11 ай бұрын

You're my favorite pz youtuber

@grub2928 6 ай бұрын

grub

@maclegend9169 Жыл бұрын

It's driving me crazy now. But I can't seem to find any debug testing of zombie hearing radius above or below floors inside a building. Like how far can a zombie hear you running, attacking, etc.. Whilst you are 1, 2, 3+ floors above or below them? Could you do some tests on this please?

@rolln8ths Жыл бұрын

would be cool if you made a video on zombie settings where you can make them have eagle eyes, pinpoint hearing and long memory

@t_gabiuel6058 9 ай бұрын

They should make it so eagle eyed is 4 points instead of 6 and also increasing your foraging radius. Because it's one of the worst positive traits right now.

@SonySony-ef8nj Жыл бұрын

So how about short sighted? How does that look?

@alpdv 3 ай бұрын

Does anybody know where can i find this thing in game files i assume its in java files i havent decompiled them yet but i think this trait has the answer for really working night vision goggles unlike other nightvision goggle mods in workshop tbh they dont really do much

@bowsniper6174 Жыл бұрын

does eagle eyed boost the night time vision with cats eyes?

@SiodogRehane Жыл бұрын

I really wonder if B42 is gonna mess all the traits and bring tons of new ones

@TheAechBomb Жыл бұрын

I haven't heard anything about traits in B42, just world features and stuff

@emekos_ Жыл бұрын

@@TheAechBombthey said something about traits in the last 1 or 2 thursdoids.

@theblitz1687 10 ай бұрын

Does pitch black setting allow some visibility during full moon?

@rationaldemon195 Жыл бұрын

Have you tried using a flash light or lighter to see how these visions affect, not to mention does eagle eye and cats eye affect aim on shooting. I ussually dont take cats eye as its overrated you can easily mitigate it with a flashlight/torch and i play the darkest nights, fighting in darkness isnt a thing for me and only take cats eye if i plan to have nocturnal shooter run or nocturnal forager.

@emekos_ Жыл бұрын

I think flashlights do effect vision radius at night. Flash lights have a very obvious effect when foraging at night so I imagine it would also effect fov.

@Buglin_Burger7878 11 ай бұрын

The issue is human error exists, if you can perfectly 100% reliably plan everything flawlessly then you will have never failed the game. Is it better to rely on an item or something you have 24-7? Sure you can try to keep the light on you all the time, but this just means if you do take it off you forget since you're so use to having it. Situations will arise where you're forced into darkness, and those situations are often near fatal. If you can survive a near fatal situation with much more certainty then it is far from overrated.

@rationaldemon195 11 ай бұрын

@@Buglin_Burger7878 Well for one 2 weeks of early game you have power even at night-time your cats eye won't take full effect to be valuable early on. 2. You only need the effect during night time, yes dark rooms can be benefitial but you can easily smoke them out with noises and good practical awarness. 3. Once those 2 weeks pasts you should be good and ready for any encounter, having decent enough armor, a gun or good weapon is all you need and the zone you are in should be mostly safe. 4. The usage of a flashlight has more benefits then cats can offer, i don't think players realize how good it can be due to reliance on cats eye or lack of engagement of using such item. 5. Nocturnal fights should be mostly avoided unless its a pvp setting, you should clear every zombie near the vicinity and secure the perimeters. Cats eye can be strong but its not a must pick trait you would only take it if you are planning on running nocturnal runs or are nocturnal forager, if you don't plan on fighting at night it becomes wasted points that could be better spent on traits that benefit your style. Granted i won't say you shouldnt take it, but the option of having a flashlight is there, they are abundant and easy to maintain, their usages can only be as strong if your creativity is there. If you need to take cats eye for whatever reason its fine i am just giving my insight on why i think it isn't that great of trait to take. Any way what im getting that is flash light is sleeper op and you should try it.

@burningshine5524 11 ай бұрын

How they interact with each other?

@Man_3336 Жыл бұрын

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@Guts-the-Berserker 6 ай бұрын

Do they stack FoV?

@Retanaru 6 ай бұрын

Kinda. Their overlap is very limited.

@Guts-the-Berserker 6 ай бұрын

@@Retanaru thank you Retanaru, I can't wait for you to dissect the trait & occupation rework if it comes with the next build. Hopefully we get something awesome instead of no brainer negatives.