The Race to Claim the Arctic - Claims, Icebreakers & Competition in the Far North

[@PerunAU]

Thanks to the Patrons who voted for this topic - really hoping I can justify continuing the series to look at Arctic warfare and strategy. It's a strange world, with unique demands and consideration, and one where Russia has a powerful position (albeit potentially weakened as a result of that fateful 2022 decision). With ease of access growing and potential resource wealth on the table, I think there's a genuine chance that nations continue to invest in building up in the Far North. As for what that means for the fragile ecosystem and past agreements on the region - only time will tell.

[@Syndr1]

Hi Perun, so if Russia would have just waited 20 years Global Warming would have given them great northern Ports?.

[@EvilMAiq]

I'd be interested to see you do a broad analysis of global defense economics. Perhaps a sort of trend-spotting vid.

[@thejudgmentalcat]

Oh China, you so funny ("near Arctic" state?) 😂

[@surters]

Next presentation: Heating up the arctic with Nukes.

[@okn654]

Hi is there any chance you would start uploading the episodes as audio on Spotify? I guess you could even add the powerpoints. I often find it hard to watch the full episodes, as KZbin dosent work from locked screen. I would really appreciate it

[@gzer0x]

The thing about calculating the population of the arctic is extra funny to me. My aunt and uncle were IRS workers in Alaska, based out of Anchorage, and would fly out to the arctic. On most occasions, entire villages and towns would “go fishing/hunting” and be nowhere to be found because someone at the airport leaked that the IRS was on the way XD

[@davidgoodnow269]

Ah. New record set for 'most impossible job.' HTF do you audit anyone whose only claimed income is the check from the State of Alaska for oil-revenue share, when they and everyone in contact with them is unavailable and if you don't show back up at the office, people just shrug and say, "Bear must have got them, or maybe they fell through the ice?"

[@guydreamr]

Tax avoidance, arctic style.

[@RaptorJesus]

That's the most American thing I've ever heard that didn't involve heart disease or a school shooting.

[@wozn7195]

Aaah yes ye olde "No taxation without population" ^^

[@rayzerot]

​@@RaptorJesusI see what you did there. Well done

[@hugithordarson]

Correction: Iceland, not Norway chaired the Arctic council 2019-2021. That’s our foreign minister handing over the gavel at 20:10.

[@PerunAU]

an important correction

[@hugithordarson]

@@PerunAU Thank you, yes, we solely deal in important stuff up here. And we're not about to leave that council. When you think about it, which of these countries really need more land? Russia? Canada? Don't think so. That part of the world is rightfully and etymologically ours! Great video, as usual!

[@msytdc1577]

​@@hugithordarsonuhh, let's do a fact check here: Iceland ... Ice. Land. ... Hmm, seems to me that you're claiming etymological rights to territory in the Arctic when all that is left to claim is water covered by sea ice and 'ice' isn't even 50% of the letters in your country's name!

[@benoithudson7235]

Denmark only claims the green land, which is frankly not a whole lot of the Arctic. Tundra is beautiful, but not particularly green.

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

@@hugithordarson youll be laughing until you find yourself the 4th territory of canada... they were laughing too...

[@brookechang4942]

As a Canadian, I'll believe China is a "near-Arctic state" when they have a hockey team worth talking about.

[@kovona]

Wait, does that make Florida a near-Arctic state?

[@brookechang4942]

@@kovona Yes, it does. As much as I hate to say that.

[@WK-47]

Don't encourage them, eh. I hear they have a world-class Uighur hockey team 500 strong with max social-credit scores. That's why they go to those hockey camps all the time. How's aboot that, buddy?

[@jessicarowley9631]

Spat my coffee at the sentence, "taking revenge for the Titanic." Ah, Perun! You are a treasure.

[@venanziadorromatagni1641]

„It‘s a region where there‘s a lot going on beneath the surface“ Perun invades Dad Jokes territory. 😂

[@ricardokowalski1579]

🥁 ba dumm tiss 👍

[@momon969]

The dad jokes have already promised to retaliate, and the UN has harshly condemned this attack on dad jokes' sovereignty (via strongly worded email).

[@plumbthumbs9584]

@@ricardokowalski1579 Funny thing happened on the way to the comments section. The KZbins 'translate' function appeared under you comment. Funny words make giggle!

[@VladimirPutin-p3t]

​@Marburg-yw4njespecially when he makes Per-puns

[@Khono]

When Yeahmad made their youtube channel and found great success, they also found Perun's flag already planted in the territory with a friendly beer and a technical spreadsheet.

[@Deltarious]

The fact you included a Stargate reference in here immediately puts this in contention for your top videos. I just hope the US can keep the chair supplied ;)

[@WilliamNeacy]

Yes, we need a video on Space Force zero point module procurement.

[@DanielDracohun]

Maybe the litoral combat ships are so bad becouse most the funding was secretly diverted to the xf-303...

[@capt5656]

Hey Perun, former Canadian reservist here. You might already have talked to some relevant people but if want i can probably connect you with some of the guys who deployed to the arctic via OP Nanook and maybe even with people from our newer 'Arctic Response Company Group' who deployed last year. The land element might not mean the most in the arctic but we do exist!

[@churblefurbles]

Its not necessary, he's "connected", he glows.

[@nomercynodragonforyou9688]

@@churblefurbles cool story bro

[@MTerrance]

Wait...the arctic??? Okay. Got my coffee. Got my cigar. Time to learn something about a topic I had no idea I was interested in...

[@nnonotnow]

Perun says you are interested now. 😐

[@martavdz4972]

It's actually extremely important, DW Documentary has posted some documentaries on it.

[@kswis]

I took out half a pot of coffee and a few stogies learning about the topic as well. This channel has the best presentations on the tube

[@ricardokowalski1579]

👍 solid comment.

[@SpookyEng1]

Ditto, and the Arctic is on my late 2020s conflict area bingo card

[@aspi53]

Just for the record. In Denmarks Santa Lore, he lives in Greenland, and not on the North Pole, so we already won.

[@robertbraden4454]

Danish propaganda

[@theknightskyisi]

Santa's official mailing address is North Pole, Canada with the postal code: HOH-OHO. He even has Canadian citizenship last I checked! :P

[@realitymatters8720]

​@@theknightskyisiNahhh, postal code 3961 Uummannaq Greenland is the only place where you can expect a positive result from your gift wishes, confirming Denmarks claim to being the land of oppotunity.. The office in Canada is a pathetic attempt of robbing Canadian children of their arctic Barbie and polar Ken ! Shame😢

[@Elenrai]

@@theknightskyisi Of course, but everyone is correct, ysee; Santa Claus is clearly a Canadian citizen, his workshop and postbox is located on the North Pole, where his sleigh is also stored and maintained, however, his all year residence is on Greenland, because the guy seriously cannot afford to pay tax in Canada, so he resides abroad illegally in Greenland as part of an elaborate tax evasion scheme to funnel resources into creating presents. Incidentally Peruns video is totally wrong on this subject as the North Pole is almost stripped bare of resources as Santa have been pretty industrious, its all a big hoax!

[@Mr2greys]

@@theknightskyisi It is HOH OHO, there is no hyphen between

[@Muljinn]

“The Canadians don’t have plans to burn the White House a second time…” *Canadian sweating intensifies…*

[@ianameline8111]

That he knows of :-)

[@nevilleneville6518]

I mean, technically it was the British who did the burning...

[@jeckjeck3119]

Intelligence leak intensifies.

[@tristanridley1601]

Technically it was the newfoundlanders who were technically a British colony. Anything you know about Canadian pre-modern soldiers applies 2x to NFLD.

[@MrDalisclock]

​@@jeckjeck3119wait, this isn't the war thunder forums.

[@JustAnotherNorthman]

As a Dane, I am very proud of how both we and our fierce Canadian opponents have conducted ourselves in the hard fought 50 years war for Hans Island - and I am similarly proud of the final settlement reached after the five decades of repeated battles. I thus send much love to Canada and all the rest of our allies from this Kingdom, which, as we say here, may be small when measured with the world but huge when measured with the heart! 🇩🇰⚔️🇨🇦😉

[@OGAR35]

Fierce battles, indeed!

[@lorenard993]

As a Canadian with Danish friends I am both happy the dispute was settled peacefully and sad that I have lost the easy "get off Hans Island" banter. Although if I am honest I never really heard people talking about it in Canada and I have only seen the dispute mentioned by Danes

[@georgesears2916]

As a dyslexic I initially read that as 'five decades of repeated bottles'...

[@electrosyzygy]

@@georgesears2916 it was indeed decades of repeated bottles🤣

[@JustAnotherNorthman]

@@georgesears2916 🤣

[@uncleheavy6819]

The first thing that comes to my mind is the British research ship that should have been named Boaty McBoatface as the result of a public pole. The authorities chickened out.

[@behemothfan1990]

It's a shit name, I'm glad they did

[@bholdr----0]

Well, in the mind of the public, it is Boaty McBoatface, and ever shall be... If anyone has a problem understanding the term 'capturing the zeitgeist' (or the latter word itself), B McB is exhibit A! 👍 😅👍

[@schwarzermoritz]

Nope. Cooler heads prevailed. Because whoever crews said ship will have to identify themselves with the ship's name over radio about, oh, a few times per day on average. Including in serious and potentially lifethreatening scenarious. And that's where the lulz stop.

[@ianmcsherry5254]

Or, we hold David Attenborough in higher affection than a name that someone came up with after a hard sesh, and went viral... 😏

[@bholdr----0]

@@schwarzermoritz Aw C'mon, grow yerself a sense of humor! (It is 2024, btw). Do you really think anyone would see such a name as anything other than humourous? There are A LOT of humourously named vessels, RIGHT? ...WOW. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed; re: 'cooler heads prevailed', which is a term usually used in contrast to 'hothead'(s), as in angry or reckless 'head(s)'... I think the term you were looking for is/was 'more serious', or 'conventional' 'heads', right? ...it was a JOKE. Most people can take a joke, so I don't think it would've been a problem (it's not like the popular, public selection was something incendiary like 'Boaty McIrish DrunkGuy', or something actually offensive, eh? ...(Though, if your last name is 'McBoatface', and you are/were offended, I apologize for the inconsiderate use of your family name.)

[@m.streicher8286]

I'm 60 seconds in and I already see this heading towards "The US is currently dominant, but china built 86 ice breakers last week alone"

[@JackMcLeary]

I am astonished at which half of that ended up more correct. Perun you sneaky sneaky person.

[@viktorsolovyov5067]

Yeah right...

[@TealWolf26]

The classic Chinese strategy of trying to gaslight the world into buying that the South China sea encompasses all 7 of them.

[@Rozarez213]

sadly, US isnt really dominant in this sector. they have little to no Icebreaker currently.

[@jonny-b4954]

Well, Russia. Not really China yet. They're more focused on South China Sea.

[@paulsteaven]

China: We are a 'Near Arctic State'. Also China: Outsiders should stay away of the South China Sea dispute. Gotta love China's duality.

[@Muljinn]

If Xi Jin Ping & his government didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have standards at all.

[@plumbthumbs9584]

And their hypocrisy, gluttony, kleptocracy, and idiocy.

[@MrCastodian]

@@plumbthumbs9584So basically USA?

[@trogdortpennypacker6160]

@@MrCastodian US: "I want to make claims too, but I refuse to follow international law and sign UNCLOS because I like rules based order where I make stuff up as I go along."

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@trogdortpennypacker6160 US world order >>> Better than anything China or Orcssia can ever make.

[@errorcrj110]

There's significant dispute over where Santa and his workshop are located. Based on the conflicting information provided by commenters of various nationalities, I conclude he must have addresses in multiple countries, probably in some convoluted scheme to dodge paying taxes

[@x--.]

Santa being a tax cheat charity explains so much.

[@keenanhosking659]

As a Canadian interested in the arctic this is a great article. Thank you perun.

[@sogerc1]

IDK what people in the US are talking about, one has to just look at the map, those are clearly your internal waters!

[@luvirini]

Who claims ownership of Santa's workshop: Easy. It is Finland as unlike the missinformation in US and some other parts of the world, Santa actually lives on Korvatunturi in Finland.

[@johmyh14]

Obvious misinformation from a drunk Moomin, everyone knows Santa lives in the North Pole.

[@aaronfalcon3152]

you're miss infomation. Finland doesn't even exist. Its just a lie made up between Japan and Russia smh.

[@plumbthumbs9584]

Everyone knows Lee Majors is Santa's muscle.

[@Ragnaroz6000]

Dane here to clarify: Santa lives in Greenland. More specifically in Spraglebugten near Uummannaq. His workshop is located out on Greenland's permanent ice sheet, and his current primary logistical hub and warehouse is at the North pole (for tax purposes and easier routing to the rest of world). His mailing address, and the world's largest mailbox (a popular tourist attraction) is: Santa Claus North pole 3961 Uummannaq, Greenland.

[@eestaashottentotti2242]

Santa's global operations couldn't possibly work without Chinese factories. In Earfell there is a media division.

[@bernadmanny]

If you remember that China unofficially-officially considers a large chunk of Sibera as properly belonging to China, then their claim as a _'near'_ arctic state make more sense.

[@schwarzermoritz]

That's just part of protecting the brand at that point. Can't have a territorial neighbor without some claim on their territory if you're ROC.

[@b1rds_arent_real]

​@@schwarzermoritzThe ROC is facing a rather sizeable domestic terrorist movement (the CCP and the self-proclaimed people's republic of China), which impedes its ability to exercise its control over the mainland. I don't think they are about to enforce their territorial claims.

[@MrCastodian]

China don’t claim anything in Siberia…

[@torinnbalasar6774]

​@@schwarzermoritzwhile you're technically correct, I'd like to clarify that it's PROC that's known for being the belligerent one, and is the one investing in an arctic presence. ROC only has effective control over Taiwan.

[@symmetrie_bruch]

@@torinnbalasar6774 technically speaking, that would make him technically incorrect. although the sentiment he most likely wanted tro express is correct

[@nolanthiessen895]

One of my professors was a man who spent every summer in the Arctic on a Canadian research ship. He said that while the extent if sea ice was decreasing a lot, the thickness of the ice was what concerned him the most. Previously even in summer there was plenty of thick multi-year ice which made travel difficult. Today (as if him telling me this 15 years ago), the summer ice may have a certain extent, but the ice is so thin and crispy, he wouldn't trust it to walk on. They didn't even need an ice breaker to clear their path. The research ship could just crush the ice as if it was nothing.

[@Muljinn]

It’s been thinning a fair piece since the mid-70’s. That said, in the 1920’s, the ice was down near current levels then ballooned up through the 40’s & 50’s.

[@Kirstinevad]

​@Marburg-yw4njI care.

[@nolanthiessen895]

@Marburg-yw4nj it has huge implications for the future of the Arctic from a natural resource and military perspective. I felt that Perun really glossed over just how different the modern / near future Arctic is from the past.

[@yumazster]

​@Marburg-yw4nj You manage to pull off being catastrophically wrong effortlessly.

[@Appletank8]

@Marburg-yw4nj Why are you watching a video about arctic territory control then?

[@sagecolvard9644]

I didn't know about the Arctic council. It's amazing that not only is there an international forum where Russia and the US actually successfully cooperated in 2021, but that they gave it a cute fox for a logo. I don't know whose decision the cute fox was, but they were so right.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Ironically, the word for the polar fox in Russian is a euphemism for the similarly sounding word for Charlie foxtrot/fubar, and is more often used in this context rather than in is actual meaning.

[@davidgoodnow269]

The polar bear ripping seals apart just didn't capture the panel's mission.

[@GizzyDillespee]

Narwhale would've been a worthy mascot.

[@davidgoodnow269]

@@GizzyDillespee Endangered?

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

@@GizzyDillespee too spiky

[@ExcretumTaurum]

Once again my Sunday night insomnia is rewarded with PowerPoint Man.

[@AdamMGTF]

If you have insomnia.... Don't have a screen on. 😂

[@m.streicher8286]

​@@AdamMGTFthe most annoying, useless advice you can give to someone who actually struggles with insomnia is "less screen time"

[@AdamMGTF]

@@m.streicher8286 it seems medicine disagrees.

[@thiscommentsdeleted]

Screen time and bad quality sleep or having a hard time falling asleep correlates to say the least. On the other hand, Adam implies one couldn't listen to Perun like a podcast, which is kinda short sighted. Audiobooks are great to fall asleep to but that's subjectively speaking.

[@AdamMGTF]

@@thiscommentsdeleted a valid point. I don't know of any research about background noise. Though from a personal standpoint. It seems a waste not to enjoy the lectures as a means to learn. Ie. By giving them attention and watching the slides.

[@amk4956]

36:27 it’s nice to see Stargate references being made… I wonder what percent of the audience even got that reference

[@AndrewBlucher]

Theory 1. Everybody. Theory 2. All but the six people who upvoted your comment before me. Theory 3. Only us seven who upvoted, plus you.

[@thelazy0ne]

Everyone over 25 yo

[@amk4956]

@@thelazy0ne true

[@jeffevarts8757]

As a huge fan of your content for some time now, I wanted to say that both the well informed and contextualized information, the humorous writing is truly top-tier when it comes to dry humor. Perun is an outstanding source of information on youtube. Keep up the good work.

[@dylanthomas12321]

Perun is such a great geo-strategic analyst. I'm awfully old, but know top-shelf intelligence when I see it. We could study this presentation and its implications for years. Take any segment and start to drill down if you have the training or curiosity. Than you, Perun.

[@equarg]

Due to working 60+ hours a week I can’t watch the PowerPoints, but I do listen to Perun describing what’s going on. Perun is helping me fight some major depression right now…….❤

[@AndrewBlucher]

Yes, his vids convey a lot of info, even without the images. Hang in there with that depression. Hopefully you can find your way through. Life can be tough sometimes. Counseling can help, if you find a good counsellor and can afford it. Try to avoid any professions starting with P.

[@RobFomenko]

Get out and walk as much as you can. Stay away from alcohol. And drugs. Get out in the sun. Eat healthy and don't live in isolation. That will help immense.

[@equarg]

@@RobFomenko Well, I need my alone time (slightly autistic) I get plenty of sun, and avoid drugs/alcohol like the plague. I took a vow of celibacy so I can’t have relationships (friendships) out of work. Don’t have time really. Life is to expensive. Plus I am not a gold digger! So no “baby daddy” for me (shutters). I am allergic to alcohol… it goes thru me faster than a whole bar of exlax….mistakes were made. It tasted good!😭😅. So I am dry. Don’t smoke, chew, or vape either! I will die single and alone. But I have standards! Too late for me, just hit 40 years old! Plus so see my co-workers drama, there is expenses (taxes), WW3 is around the bend, and I can never afford my own house so I gave up. I will work till I die. That reminds me, sign a DNR at the hospital soon……… Life sucks. You suffer, die, and no one cares. They just want your money. What’s there to be happy about again?😞

[@MsZeeZed]

Ok, I should be used to this by now. China builds a reef just above the waves in the middle of nowhere, draws a line back home and says “our sea”. Russia doesn’t even bother with an island, plants a flag on the sea floor (where literally no-one can see it) and says “our hemisphere” 🤦🏻‍♀️😅

[@GizzyDillespee]

That's how mining works - you take something, and yell, "MINE!!"

[@mchozen2958]

Rule of Law is a foreign concept to them. Belligerence is their preference.

[@AndrewBlucher]

​@@mchozen2958Are talking about China, or Russia? [ Rereads post, thinks a moment ] Oh, both!

[@Danksta911]

True. And America sends a memo

[@linerider195]

And America loudly declares: This is mine, according my reading of the rules. I am so certain of this, so the competent authority can fuck right off. Rules for thee not for me

[@pieter-bashoogsteen2283]

I keep being amazed how someone as busy as you Perun, keeps uploading an hour long video every week.

[@m.streicher8286]

Once you realize videos can be worked on concurrently, it makes more sense, but nonetheless impressive.

[@pieter-bashoogsteen2283]

@@m.streicher8286 I know, but like you said it still is impressive.

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

So, I'm from Iceland, and I went to Grímsey last year, the island in the north that the arctic circle crosses. Gorgeous place, BTW. The arctic circle marker is right at the north side of the island, and it's a giant concrete sphere with a metal tube through the centre. This is so they can drag it as the arctic circle moves (see the Wikipedia article on "Axial Tilt" for why this happens). At Grímsey, It's currently moving north at 14,5m per year and will naturally move off the island in 2047.

[@Mosern1977]

Well, by then you can properly claim to be a "near arctic state".

[@peterfireflylund]

Can’t you just volcano up some more island before 2047?

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

@@peterfireflylund Haha.... it's not at all impossible, though in 2 1/2 decades, it seems unlikely. Technically we have some even further north land, Kolbeinsey. But it's a skerry, only 20 meters wide and steadily eroding away. But new skerries or islands could always emerge. There was a submarine eruption in the area in 1999. Who knows, maybe we might end up with land more solidly in the Arctic Circle in the future :)

[@live_free_or_perish]

Interesting bit of info. The comments are sometimes as good as the presentation.

[@thekinginyellow1744]

@@peterfireflylund Excellent turn of phrase.

[@rifroll1117]

Okay imma be honest, THIS was not the topic I was expecting this week 😂

[@paulelephant9521]

Same! But i learned a lot, actually incredibly interesting and relevant subject.

[@AndrewBlucher]

Yep, if Perun says it's time to learn about the Artic, ITS TIME TO LEARN ABOUT THE ARTIC!

[@surajbiradar9827]

Arctic Council logo is truly the cutest logo of any organization.

[@danwylie-sears1134]

A quibble. (Not that it matters, but hey, it feeds the engagement metrics.) "Ice sheet" means thick ice resting on rock. At 4:12, the term is used to refer to sea ice, i.e. thin ice floating on water. There's also "ice shelf", which is thick ice floating on water where a glacier or ice sheet flows into the ocean.

[@bholdr----0]

"When you think about the Arctic"... Actually, the first thing I think about IS 'an emerging domain' for international competition vis-a-vis the (hyperborean? Lol) race to secure natural resources and transportation routes, international borders, military/national security, etc! Also, . Great vid, as usual. (BTW, I am writing this as I am only about two minutes into the vid. Peru 's weekly vids are so consistently excellent that I feel safe in praising them and giving a +1 (like) before I have watched them each week- and I have never had to take it back. This is the best channel about the geopolitical implications of modern conflicts (and defence finance, etc), vis. Ukraine in particular, that is both in depth, nuanced, and yet accessible to the layperson that is currently going on KZbin. (Caspian Report is another such channel, IMHO.) Anyway, Cheers!

[@Zer0Blizzard]

54:55 Again, and I know you know this, Nimitz class carriers purposely limit their 2 nuclear power plants' output to 25% each under normal conditions and max out at 50% individually of rated output, for presumable fear of destroying the propellers - it's theoretically possible to have those carriers, that are 100,000 tons, going about 50+ miles per hour, assuming all four propellers+engines can handle that heat output converted into torque (source: A1B reactor used on gerald r ford class aircraft carrier wikipedia article). I understand that America doesn't exactly build replacement nuclear power plants much anymore, but those things were overbuilt on purpose. I'm glad you included the dig from Finland about the obvious incompetence and corruption in the American MIC, that was a nice touch.

[@rosaschlupfer635]

Somehow I found the land border between Denmark and Canada to be the most surprising nudged of knowledge in this video. :)

[@stone-hand]

Ah, the whisky bottle war...

[@jaxvoice718]

In the process doubling the number of neighbouring countries for both Canada and Denmark. Canada had only a land border to USA, and Denmark only to Germany (the bridge to Sweden doesn't generally count as a land border, but definitions vary).

[@joesomebody3365]

These videos are perfect for relaxing and doing some errands and having something to listen to in the background. I feel like I only absorb parts of it, but it's wonderfully well researched, and Perun has a good speaking voice with some nice dry humor occasionally. Keep up the fantastic work.

[@j.s.c.4355]

I would love it if the NW Passage were recognized as Canadian internal waters. If the NW Passage were intentional, you’d have Russian warships passing freely through. If it’s Canadian, the US just has to negotiate a military and commercial use agreement with Canada in exchange for bankrolling a series of refuel and SAR ports along the route. Canada then use those to develop its arctic interior.

[@NinjatoBlade]

This seems like a huge conflict of interest: while a new trade corridor would lead to a dramatic shift in the world’s inter connectivity, I imagine all that traffic and ice breaking would only speed up the depletion of the polar icecaps, sorta like how cutting down forests also increases trade

[@Ptolemy336VV]

I'm a near arctic person and I claim 5% right of the North Pole. Why? Because China thinks it can too. Also. I claim 70% rights of China. Because the Shape of China is what I have drawn a lot in my childhood in my dreams. And that is enough reason for me for China to cede 70% of its land.

[@axllii]

I confirm this claim is in good faith and valid!

[@rayzerot]

This was the logic Russia used for Ukraine lol

[@AndrewBlucher]

Sounds legit

[@catc8927]

Save the other 30% for the new province of West Taiwan and I’m down for this plan too.

[@HL-ws6qr]

You said in your Turtle Tanks video (May 12) that this video wasn't as well received as you'd like. I found it extremely informative.

[@brookshamilton1]

Fair to say this channel’s weekly content has been, at times, my favorite part of the week

[@judithcampbell1705]

Thank you 💛 Perun. This topic is fantastic and being a Canadian I found it both interesting and important! Please expand on it. Ty

[@RangerGucci]

I love this topic and I'm glad people are starting to talk about it.

[@andrewfleenor7459]

Immediately one of my favorites of yours. I always love the ones that bring up a topic I didn't realize I was curious about.

[@FreeFallingAir]

Inuit Pirates coming soon

[@wozn7195]

The navy type of seal might be a little harder to club tho...

[@tomboyd7109]

32:48 "we're just going to break the ice on the topic a bit" OW! You sprained by brain with that one!

[@taiwanisacountry]

As a Danish sinologist who took Greenlandic and Arctic studies at university, then nothing of this is new information for me. Except the spceifics of fleet sizes. I would like to add that no major freight company have shown interest in the area as a potential shortcut. Nor are any of the natural resources in the area accessable to commercial use. It is simply too expensive to get the resources. For the PRC, they felt excluded from a group that housed members of the EU, Russia and the USA. That is also an important aspect. There are more but you get the picture. The area is very much poopoo at the moment no value at all. But that might chance, but then again, freight conpanies faces nedsive fines for delays at their spot at harbours, and if a huge piece of ice gets in your way then you are screwed, it can take hours to clear, and that is hours that you need to pay for + the fine + your spot is getting pushed back.

[@msytdc1577]

And if a huge ship decides to nose dive into a side embankment, or freshwater levels are a bit low for running the locks, or the forecast calls for sporadic showers of ballistic missiles... Well, it's very easy for freight companies to have a change in tune rather rapidly, and as they say, "opportunity favors the prepared"

[@davidgoodnow269]

Good points, both of you.

[@southbirdsouthbird]

This episode is true genius: You know, doing something new that no one else seems to be looking at, doing it well and doing it with style and humor. I am amazed and gratified to have my mind and knowledge expanded. My best Patreon subscription ever. Thank you, Perun!

[@kevinalkire]

Not gonna lie, I was pretty sad this morning when I woke up without a new Perun video in my feed. Crisis avoided.

[@KenMathis1]

_"We're just going to break the ice on the topic a bit"_ Ice sea what you did there

[@steemlenn8797]

But be careful, it's a slippery slope with the wordplays. You might end up with people giving you the cold shoulder if you do it too much.

[@DemetriusAniketos]

Perun is my go-to listening material for eating breakfast and playing Civilization

[@plumbthumbs9584]

And who was for breakfast today, Ghandi?

[@R2_D]

17:58 "less of a get off my lawn vibe" 😂 lol - so Aussie. Love the immediate pivot to address any wise guy remark about the lack of lawn. Well played good Sir, well played.

[@holyknightthatpwns]

Excited to see how to turn discussions on Arctic exploration into defense economics analysis!

[@plumbthumbs9584]

Everything is defense economics.

[@davidgoodnow269]

Remember all those offshore oil rigs Russia has? They have to have undersea storage and pipelines. Also, all "Russian" natural gas comes from the Arctic Ocean or Siberia. Gee, didn't there used to be the two largest natural gas pipelines in the world, running to Europe? What ever happened to those? Didn't it release an environmentally-collapsing quantity of gas contamination that, by itself, was supposed to raise global temperatures by 2/10ths of a percent Centigrade in that year alone, and add the same on a permanently cumulative basis for at least the next one hundred years, before it is re-absorbed naturally (and I would love to understand the chemistry and physics of that calculation)? So, what are the _long-term economic costs_ if 'someone' starts taking out oil platforms? What happens

[@plumbthumbs9584]

@@davidgoodnow269 all sorts of good things. forests and lakes in saudia arabia, beach front land in colorado. banana plantations in canada. you ever had bananas and maple syrup? to die for.

[@davidhalliday7776]

OMG, this may well be one of your best video's ever! It took me months to get around to watching it but boy am I glad I did. While the view stats may not show it this is fantastic. Thanks for the work on this and I really hope we get more on this later.

[@EvilMAiq]

Jeez, this popped up at 49 seconds and there were STILL already comments. Thanks for the vid Perun.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

I wonder how many comments there were at 1 second Probably 10

[@nikolaideianov5092]

@Marburg-yw4nj nope thats @OteloBruno-ti8qp

[@kalacos7670]

You Sir got some timing. I was literally researching about arctic claims and polymetallic nodules the last few days and now you show up and talk about making it a series.

[@radomircita9420]

May I suggest a future topic? As a Czech, I am rather interested in the Czech led Artillery shell initiative. I wonder where are the shells coming from, what can those old cold war connections used to procure shells mean and so on.

[@southbirdsouthbird]

Good idea. Let's see how he can crack that nut! A gauntlet is thrown down!

[@kevinrusch3627]

The strategic foolishness of Russia's invasion of Ukraine is just mind-boggling.

[@romanmanner]

I really get the impression Putin thought it’d take a year, tops. Now he’s bogged down and had to spend far more than what he budgeted in money, equipment, and risk to his regime.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Stuff you'll do when you're high on your own propaganda and looking to secure your office...

[@4grammaton]

Allowing Ukraine to join NATO, and NATO troops to surround Crimea was a better strategic decision, in your opinion?

[@Pyriphlegeton]

​@@4grammaton Since Ukraine *wasn't* allowed into NATO and moreover ukrainian NATO membership has been impossible for 10 years...what are you talking about?

[@mchozen2958]

Yes

[@MrEerilybasic]

Thanks once again Perun!

[@derlurch4027]

I didnt expect the EU4 shout out, but here I am. Great video btw, never thought the arctic was as interesting as it is

[@guyman1570]

Finally got a chance to watch this! Thank you for making this video. It has been a wonderful time.

[@jonathanryan9946]

I've been to Barrow Alaska... even in the summer that Ice Breaker is kinda important.

[@BernardLS]

Barrow, Cumbria, UK can get a bit chilly as well (yep even in the 'summer')

[@shadowreaver1851]

It's a shame the Super Icebreaker project got delayed. I'm find mega engineering projects fascinating. The design looks pretty cool and I would very much like to see it in action. I guess that's yet another reason to hate war, it prevents and curtails development into more creative and productive engineering projects in favor of machines designed to kill people.

[@dritzzdarkwood4727]

28:52 The elite dog-sled unit is comprised of the best soldiers of the elite unit "Frømandskorpset", akin to US Navy Seals or UK SBS. It's called "Sirius Patruljen", Sirius Patrol.

[@thelazy0ne]

Serious patrol 🤭

[@JohnMckeown-dl2cl]

Very well done. A good explanation of a situation that gets minimal news coverage. I am looking forward to the next installment.

[@vi6ddarkking]

"Was welcomed to file an appeal with the Navy." The best and Only responds when it comes to territorial disputes.

[@mothrahlurker788]

Generally the dumbest. Cooperation makes everone better off.

[@dritzzdarkwood4727]

@@mothrahlurker788 Exactly.

[@msytdc1577]

​@@mothrahlurker788sounds like sore loser talk to me.

[@plumbthumbs9584]

@@mothrahlurker788 Sure, and history shows humankind's grasp of this concept.

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

But they want china to adhere to the UN convention of the seas. Yeah, nah.

[@jgagnier]

The shockingly low number of views on this video in the Perun canon isn't indicative of the content's quality. This is brilliant stuff.

[@usun_politics1033]

It was surprisingly good, informative and neutral video. Thank you.

[@zackn8745]

Perun thanks for doing this one! I've been hoping for this for some time.

[@xavi239]

Exactly training a soldier is hard enough, but the fact that they have to fight in the Arctic adds a full dimension to it. You can't give a guy a pair of skees and equipment who has never been outside in sub-freezing temp for more than an hour and expect them to live for more than 2 days. I know that in the French alpine units, you must train for an additional 2-3 years with more specialized training and thousands of euros worth of equipment. To lose all of that time experience and money to an FPV drone just makes me scream.

[@Danksta911]

Wow. I was hoping for an episode on „strategically important pieces of land“ and you bring this. Thanks!😊

[@nnonotnow]

I don't think the Chinese patrol boats will be able to use their water cannons to harass shipping in the Arctic. Hopefully they're aware of that

[@trogdortpennypacker6160]

Be a large snowball fight.

[@davidgoodnow269]

If they manage to -- because it's certainly far from impossible -- I would respond with Greek Fire!

[@ianshaver8954]

I want to see them try.

[@megalonoobiacinc4863]

what if they have giant pneumatic cannons that can fire icicles, then they would have infinite ammo as long as they got energy!

[@ReptilianLepton]

You're underestimating China's pettiness. They absolutely would carry thousand of gallons of glycol antifreeze to the arctic just to enable the mission of being complete and utter dicks.

[@kenpace8089]

Perun, as always, applies strategic dominance via power point! Thanks!

[@blandragny9152]

Good vid. Hope to see more Arctic updates.

[@keenanhosking659]

I'm really looking forward to the next episodes.

[@yoda0017]

Someday my country (Canada) will absolutely nail some notable bit of military procurement. But that day is not today.

[@donmosier1695]

I watch most of your videos, but I’ll confess that some make my eyes glaze over. This however, was unexpectedly one of your most interesting ones. Kudos.

[@saint-miscreant]

it may not be the first thing that comes to mind when i think of the Arctic, but ‘international competition’ is definitely among the top 5 things

[@disbeafakename167]

Good Morning! Great to see my sunday morning show up and waiting for me.

[@daiakunin]

The puns were glorious in this one, but my ears are not yet bleeding so I demand more.

[@bagginsbilbrough]

A fascinating twist to the Geopolitics tale. Well told - thanks mate.

[@Briggsby]

Woke up, checked phone, Perun video 11 minutes ago. Fuck yeah.

[@RK-jw9xj]

I am glad that you covered this topic. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

[@Johannesodder]

There's 1 icebreaker remaining in Denmark: Thorbjorn (b. 1980). Auctioned off from the navy 8 years ago and currently lying in Svendborg, for sale.

[@colten1825]

i played the CMO icebreakers mission once and now this is the coolest topic ever to me

[@chucknorrissaurus4398]

The amount of science fiction pop culture that you constantly reference my friend has me convinced that if you embraced the power freedom units we could be fast friends 😂 Keep up the amazing work Perun! Thanks as always for continuing to educate me on the situation of the modern geopolitical world 💪❤️

[@SteffiZweitkonto]

I Love getting the funniest, Most entertaining Powerpoints i've ever seen by perun. Always an interesting topic (Said that, after watching)...

[@Shannis75]

I'm so glad you brought up the Whisky War and its devastating effect on both Canada and Denmark. I'm just hoping that despite the tensions rising between those two famous warmongers they will be able to hold back, and not descend into bloody carnage... again.

[@kimmogensen4888]

Yes the difference between the time where Canada burned down the White House and the Time where danish raiders were feared all along the coast of Europe and along the rivers are astonishing, but though I love to read about the past, and don’t like the government of Canada they are among the most powerful nations in the world and I’m glad that our young men didn’t have to die over a rock like in the past, not that it’s not a real dispute, but war should always be the last option.

[@Frequincy100]

One of the only KZbin creators I can watch without doing something else

[@johnpijano4786]

I hope you make a video on Canada's strategic position.

[@MisterPerson-fk1tx]

As a Canadian I'll sum it up for you. Conservative's campaign on the arctic but don't do anything because it's hard and it's just a bunch of natives up there. The Liberal's won't because it might help us meet NATO targets, develop resources and help the natives. Both lose a talking point if they actually make progress while nobody cares enough for it to be a big win.

[@Muljinn]

On one hand, I very much want to see Perun’s analysis of the ongoing tragi-comic disaster that is Canada. On the other, the cringe inducing shame I’ll feel for my country may cause a black hole to form…

[@TheSkyGuy77]

On one side is a crazy revanchist regime, and on the other is a bipolar regime.

[@johnpijano4786]

​@@Muljinn well. It may take a big hit in the head for people to realize the dire situation. I even made a brief presentation in University describing Canadian artic policy.

[@dylanc9174]

​@@johnpijano4786With the U.S, Russia, and China challenging Canadian sovereignty Canada has a lot on its plate there.

[@frostpst477]

Beautiful Sundays when these videos drop

[@nicholasconder4703]

The first attempt by the Americans to sail a commercial ship through the Northwest Passage occurred in 1969 with the ice-breaking oil tanker SS Manhattan. The Americans were attempting to push their view the NW Passage is international waters. To do so they loaded a token cargo of oil at Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, and sent the SS Manhattan eastward from Prudhoe Bay. Of course the Canadian government protested, but also sent two icebreakers. What the Wikipedia article does not mention is that the SS Manhattan got stuck at least once, possibly twice, and it required the help of the Canadian icebreakers to get out and avoid getting crushed by the ice. The Canadian government learned two things from this: 1) Canada really needed to properly lay claim to it arctic regions and physically do things to preserve its sovereignty over these areas, and 2) if you want to stop the US from doing stuff you know is foolish, allow them some room to attempt it. Then once they get into trouble, help them out very publicly so they get thoroughly embarrassed and don't do it again.

[@klonkimo]

Hello Perun, resident Alaskan here. Palin's infamous misquoted gaffe "I can see Russia from my house" isn't quite right. Your research missed the Diomede islands, of which Russia owns the west and Alaska owns the east. In the winter, the ice freezes over and you can literally walk across to each island. Customs is handled by both countries on the mainland.

[@LMB222]

Sorry, but WHO cares whether Palin was right?

[@klonkimo]

@@LMB222 since you didn't read much of what I said, that wasn't the point of my comment. I'm an Alaskan, and 12 years later still hearing about it. So yeah, I care.

[@klonkimo]

@theprogram863 that was a legendary skit. I heard Larry Flynt tried as well.

[@patrickjordan2233]

Palin said plenty of dumb stuff...but that particular one was from a SNL skit... We don't necessarily need to perpetuate a meme/false mythology? It's hard enough to sort out mythology as it is? But that's merely my opinion...

[@thomaslove6494]

​@Marburg-yw4njRussia is the one who sold it... so they are the ones you need to be mad at... however I think you're trolling anyway.

[@Anglomachian]

That logo is absolutely precious, I love it.

[@guyman6399]

A correction, the 3rd danish icebreaker, Torbjørn, is still functional and it is privately owned and moored in Svendbog værft

[@spxram4793]

Great stuff. Thank you again, Perun. Looking at all the factors described in this video, I am convinced since Feb 24 2022 that Beijing is waiting for russia to exhaust itself and then simply take Siberia - and not only Manchuria, as most political observers (Applebaum & co) claim.

[@benoithudson7235]

I hope you’ll cover the historical method of claiming Arctic land, used by multiple Arctic nations, which is grabbing a bunch of indigenous nomads and announcing to them that they will now live in this particular town and aren’t allowed to leave anymore. Then you have people who can keep your flag up year round. Also their economy is wrecked so they are fully dependent on government help and can’t ever rebel. Canada went further than just sedentarizing the nomads and also yanked some from northern Quebec up another 1,000 km to Ellesmere Island and a harbour along the northwest passage (Grise Fiord and Resolute Bay) to populate some otherwise unpopulated areas and thus strengthen its land and internal waters claims.

[@thekinginyellow1744]

Shh! You are damaging Canada's carefully crafted international image.

[@TheGrace020]

36:29 Thats funny just rewatching star gate 1 so got that reference 😭keep up being epic Perun!

[@saltmerchant749]

Russia was a country with all the tools to advantage themselves in the 21st century but were hamstrung by their 19th century politics.

[@BalbazaktheGreat]

Excellent work, as always.