The Radeon VE / 7000

[@DonionRings]

This video was a return to form. A breath of fresh air for me. Missed these windows 98 builds.

[@LorisPeretto]

Yes, I missed a lot the Phil's old video card videos. Finally.

[@nimaabachianghasemi1378]

Finaly! A real retro pc part video . I missed videos you were making until 2yrs ago .

[@philscomputerlab]

Man it's been hectic 2 years. Still trying to find stable footing. I have a few product reviews coming up but really want to go back to retro content like this one.

[@nimaabachianghasemi1378]

@@philscomputerlab thanks .Me and your other viewers understand that retro pc subjects are hard to find. you never made AMD slot A video and why it failed or intel core 2 vs amd athlon or celeron vs sempron or duron ...... 🙂

[@danielberrett2179]

Happy PhilDay Y'all

[@PixelPipes]

This card is really underappreciated. It's easy to assume it's going to be cripplingly slow looking at the specs, and certainly some very poorly configured partner cards don't help its reputation. But the reference card is honestly an excellent midrange card from the era. Oh, and best capture quality on KZbin, man! Really crisp! Thank you for participating in #GPUJune2!

[@Txm_Dxr_Bxss]

But the question is why should you get a Radeon 7000 today if you can have a real Radeon for just a little more these days?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

1:09 Damn! That must be a special edition Radeon 7000 if it has 32 GIGABYTES of vRAM. Did AMD accidentally send you a Radeon RX 7000 sample you're not telling us? ;)

[@jangelelcangry]

Enough to copy most hard drives data from that era.

[@Teksers]

I thought I heard wrong but now I see another person confirming I too heard 32GB

[@billob4285]

had to verify that 32GB claim on TechPowerUp, its just a 32MB card so nothing special.

[@MasterHan]

I had PC some ago with Pentium 4 CPU and R7000 card. It was Samsung PC and despite it dose not run games very well, it was my first PC dad bought to me. God rest his soul. Great Vid!

[@xiardark]

Nice to see SHOGO and TA Kingdoms in the gameplay. Wasn't a fan of the 7000 back then, but glad to see it in one of your videos. If you do older CPU videos again, maybe try Total Annihilation with maxed units. Change the max cap to 1000 per team. It stresses older hardware, even though the game says it the requirements are 100Mhz, descent play was around 500Mhz+ for the stock game.

[@marcusambler4205]

Great to see you back on the W98 builds... I put together a 3Ghz Core Duo machine with PCI-E X800 after one of your other videos... works great Very... very fast

[@ilyasovich]

The ATi Radeon 7000 was my first graphics card ever, but I got the 64 MB version, with a Pentium 4 Northwood 256 MB of DDR RAM all in an ASUS P4S-533X Motherboard, I had so much fun in this system that I still own to date

[@SteTechGaming]

Good to see these kind of videos back. These cards are pretty, so might grab one for my upcoming P3 build

[@ruxandy]

Still, Final Fantasy 7 works perfectly with any Radeon card, as long as you install the Riva 128 patch (I believe it's version 1.02). Great video, Phil. Nice seeing you getting back to Windows 98 stuff. We are also waiting for a good ol' DOS video 😀

[@amberselectronics]

Once again inspiring me to go dig mine out of storage and start playing again. Thanks as always. Things have been rough and I keep forgetting how to enjoy myself

[@philscomputerlab]

Same for me 😔 Reach out if you need someone to talk to.

[@mesterak]

Thank you for sharing Phil. It always makes my day when you put out a new video!

[@remlegend8292]

That integer scaling was really nice, very defined and sharp pixels. Watching on a pc monitor, 1440p. Thank you Phil, great video.

[@mattpierce5009]

I'm pretty surprised by the AF results, it doesn't hurt performance nearly as much as I'd have thought. Guess I'll have to dig my 7000 out for some testing. Always cool to see you doing retro content Phil

[@philscomputerlab]

What is really funny is how with the latest consoles they proudly mentioned that games starting to have AF. Man, we had this since windows 98 🤣

[@rodhester2166]

thanks for the review.. You showed two of my all time favorites. Thief and Tomb Raider.. guess I am going to play those this weekend.. lol

[@IronicTonic8]

I have both a Radeon 7200 SDR and DDR (32mb models). They're a lot of fun to play around with, but I generally stick to 3DFX or nVidia cards for this era of gaming. My go to Windows 98 machine has a Geforce4 Ti 4200.

[@nunofernandes4501]

I had a Radeon DDR 32MB (later called 7200) with an Asus P3BF i440BX motherboard, a Pentium III 550MHz and a Soundblaster live. What an awwesome little system it was back in the year 2000. I remember the fun I had playing Colin McRae 2, Deus Ex, Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament and Soldier of Fortune with this PC.

[@philscomputerlab]

Great games!

[@dodshardware]

I should have a look for this card, fits into my ATI collection :) . Great video again.

[@HeyImGaminOverHere]

Glad to see you are back! These are my favorite kind of videos from you. I loved this card when I played Counter-Strike back in the day since the colors were rendered so much more accurately. The GeForce equivalent had terrible super compressed colors in comparison but had slightly better performance because of that quality difference. Keep up the vids Phil!

[@TurboMMaster]

"Modern Athlon64" :D Great retro review as always. But I think that comparing it to Geforce 2 MX and Voodoo 5 5500 would have been nice. If you are looking for a decent, relatively demanding RTS from 2000, then I suggest Ground Control. Much better for benchmarks than Total Annihilation:Kingdoms - game from 1999 and not the most demaning RTS from that year. Dark Reign 2 could works as well.

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

The Voodoo 5500 is of course much faster. Even a Voodoo 4500 is 10-20% faster than the Radeon 7000.

[@ZinhoMegaman]

GeForce 2 MX 400 gives me 10350 score in 3d Mark 99, 6120 in 3d Mark 2000 paired with a Pentium 4 531 3.0 GHz.

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

@@ZinhoMegaman yes but the Geforce 2 MX400 was practically an overclocked GF 2 MX, released in 2001, 1 year after the Geforce 2 MX.

[@philscomputerlab]

I'll look into those games. Basically they need to be from got and run from folder.

[@TrueThanny]

The "grain" with 16-bit color is dithering. That's combining multiple available colors in a pattern to simulate an unavailable color overall. It avoids the severe banding you'd get if you simply assigned the closest available color instead. So another way to think of it is a way to blend colors together at a boundary.

[@MadMac5]

One other problem is that 16-bit dithering on ATI Rage (Rage Pro Turbo and Rage 128) and early Radeon products never worked properly. For some reason (probably to boost performance?) the cards would always dither in 15-bit colour, which led to even more obvious colour dithering artifacts! I'm not sure if it was fixed by the Radeon 8500; when I had one of those cards back in 2002 the games that looked the worst under those conditions (Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire comes to mind) ran too fast to be playable on the PC I had.

[@Trunks0]

Interesting fact there though, Radeon's do not render in 16-bit colour as they didn't support it (so its all rendered internally @ 32-bit). So when you benchmark Radeons in 16-bit and then 32-bit, the performance is about the same.

[@Choralone422]

I had one of the original Radeon DDR/7200 cards back in the day. It was a nice step up from the 3dfx Velocity 100 card I had been using, even with the 2nd TMU enabled on the 3dfx card via a registry key. Kinda makes me long for the earlier 3D days when things were rapidly changing and more exciting than they are these days!

[@philscomputerlab]

Performance improvements back in those days is indeed something missing...

[@TheHangarHobbit]

Ya know I may love my modern system but there was something about those classic boards that always made me smile. I mean look at all the colors! Blue PCB, white green red AND blue on the slots, so much prettier than the all black boards we get these days. Add in the "X-Treme to da max!" 90s cases and the ketchup and mustard cables everywhere and it just screams fun to me.

[@IcySon55]

For my 98 rig I went with the nVidia card that you recommended previously, the GeForce FX 5500!

[@dmnsonic]

Good to see you again Phil! Nice video!

[@ianhanschen]

I was delightfully surprised by the VESA framebuffer write speed for the PCI version of this card. This and Rage XL make for pretty good "later DOS" cards.

[@CompatibilityMadness]

Integer scaling looks awesome/sharp [as it should be], on my 4k monitor (PC). Also, no compression "blockyness" at 4k@60FPS, so that's great :D

[@philscomputerlab]

Awesomeness

[@linuxgeex]

Woohoo! I had one of these for my Slot-A AMD Athlon Thunderbird system. It was the cheapest 32-bit bus 3D card I could get my hands on from Paradon. TBH it's 3D performance barely beat the on-board Rage3C on my Mom's E-Machines system. I ended up replacing it with an NVidia 440FX later, and then a 9200SE, which was good enough for Battlefield at 864p. Yeah kids, we had native oddball resolutions like that on our CRT monitors!

[@casualretrocollector]

Yes ,back to some classics. Great video Phil!

[@xtacdk5083]

Very good option for PCI, but for AGP you would be much better served with something like GF2 GTS or GF4 MX, which should be available for similar price. As for the video, its Phil benchmarking retro stuff, a formula that I very much enjoy. Keep it up, nice video.

[@warrax111]

Geforce 2 GTS is much more expensive. Like, it's not even comparable, to Radeon VE. Geforce 2 MX or 4 MX440 is similiary priced. 2 MX is competition. MX440 was released 1.5 year after.

[@xtacdk5083]

@@warrax111 ebay prices are very similar. the GTS isnt very popular for some reason

[@warrax111]

@@xtacdk5083 Well, dont buy it on ebay then. :) Here's Radeon 7000 is around 5$, MX or MX440 is around 2-3$ sometimes. But GTS is here about 20-40$, so like 8x more expensive. Here on our market, MX440 and geforce 2 MX is cheapest of all AGP graphic card because everyone had it, and noone wants it for retro computer. Everyone uses rather Geforce 2 ti, Geforce 4200ti , voodoo3 or 4, TNT2, or Radeon 9600,9700, for retro computer. So market is flooded by MX440, MX 2 400 and TNT M64/Vanta, that noone wants.

[@xtacdk5083]

@@warrax111 Yes, the local markets can paint a very different picture than ebay. Personally i am really fond of these budget cards. Truth is that they made nvidia into the juggernaut they are. TNT2 M64 and GF2 MX provided excellent 3d acceleration to the masses and are great all around cards. On top of that, they dont seem to fail as much as the hotter, higher tier cards and even so, they are so cheap and plentiful that it doesnt matter.

[@warrax111]

@@xtacdk5083 Yes, that's why I "burn" them rather than Ti, Pro and Ultra variants. I personaly had in my retro PC from 2003 voodoo3. But now, I already underclocked it, to 100/100 (it has almost like voodoo2 - like performance). Of course placed 8CM fan inside the case, so it blows air on it. Anyway, still more thinking to change it for MX440, because I wouldn't like to make it to stop working.

[@gingernut3411]

I love these videos coving older hardware. Thank you for the content. I am curious, on the gameplay section the play back seemed jerky? Curious as to what caused it.

[@armorgeddon]

Probably caused by ~25 fps gameplay (like in the Shogo part) converted to 60 fps for the video encoding.

[@treennumbers]

The PCI version of the Radeon 7000 is the highest level video card supported on DEC Alpha workstations/servers.

[@thegreatboto]

Have video playing in background and my ears perk up when I hear "Total Annihilation" then "Kingdoms". Oh.. My old eMachine I bought for myself in my teen years has a 32mb PCI Radeon 7200 installed in it. Bought it so I could game with my then new system. Played so many things back then on that system. Back in the day when you could get a complete gaming setup (computer, graphics card, monitor, etc) for less than $600...

[@mibo747]

Nice go back in time...

[@RetroReviewYT]

I have the Radeon 7200 myself… came out of my Gateway performance 1400 workstation.. same with the Sound Blaster Live too.

[@stolz_ar]

Please make a 10 hour long video of you saying "Return to Castle Wolfenstein". I promise you'll be at 1 million subscribers in less than a month.

[@infinity2z3r07]

lol he says it correctly it's the native english speakers who don't

[@masejoer]

@@infinity2z3r07 They didn't say that phil was pronouncing it incorrectly. It's actually refreshing to hear this pronunciation. I don't pronounce it correctly either, but it's too ingrained to change now.

[@GarthBeagle]

The video capture looks amazing! Would love a video showing your setup/workflow 😀

[@philscomputerlab]

Did you watch in 4K TV??

[@GarthBeagle]

@@philscomputerlab I'm watching on an iMac with 5K retina display at 4K via KZbin in Safari. Super sharp details, especially in Windows 👍 Looks pixel perfect

[@nopadelik9286]

.. what a lovely selection of tested games ! 🥰 .. nostalgia kickin in, it told me it only missed the cat silencer as well as the screaming bomb guys 🤣 (btw, just in case someone missed it, Serious Sam II got a seriously big free update last year, 15 years after release)

[@UpLateGeek]

Oh yeah, I remember when not all games supported 32-bit colour. It was a hangover from the 3dfx days. Their earlier cards only supported 16-bit colour, and their later cards took a huge performance hit in 32-bit colour mode, so any games and engines developed for 3dfx's Glide API and ported to OpenGL or Direct3D typically wouldn't have a 32-bit colour option.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

My favourite card for 98 is my PCX 5750.

[@VdWck]

The first GPU I bought in 2003, to go with an Athlon K7 550mhz, with 64MB VRAM. It replaced a Nvidia Riva TNT2 16MB.

[@HoldandModify]

There are two moments in my young gamer life that are historical. The first time I saw Lara in 3DFX. Then later seeing her with FSAA.

[@philscomputerlab]

Nice 👍 Yes Lara in Voodoo was a game changer.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Nice! I still have my 7200.

[@ShoalFox]

I have the Macintosh version of the 7000 in my Power Mac G3, and it definitely is a huge improvement over the stock Rage 128.

[@BlueSkyYGO]

Nice videos Phil

[@lopwidth7343]

Powerstrip! Thnx Phil! I've been trying to remember the name of that program. I used powestrip and refresh lock before rivatuner, and i forgot the name of powerstrip

[@itstheweirdguy]

Few were playing games beyond 1024x768 on these two cards, I'd say overall this a great card for a windows 98se machine.

[@HeavyD6600]

I love the new video capture! It's great!

[@HeavyD6600]

I'm not on a smart TV though, so I can't comment on its scaling with your scaling. Just on a 4k monitor on PC.

[@cee128d]

I used to install these in workstations, daily driver computers (tha didn't play a lot of games), and even projection systems in Church's back in the day. Never had a bit of problems with any of them.

[@philscomputerlab]

Cool!

[@habtab3498]

I’ll never forget my disappointment when my dad brought home this card instead of the GeForce card I wanted so badly 😂

[@pauls4522]

When I was 12 years old in 2002 I had no perception of what was really good. And I happily had my radeon 7000 until january 2005. Wasnt until years later I learned how crippled of a card the 7000 was even for ati standards for its time period.

[@SUCRA]

Great video as usual! Coincidentally my buddy @riksrandomretro streamed with the Radeon DDR yesterday for GPU June.

[@mOddEdLiKeHeLL]

i miss these old types of videos reviewing retro hardware.

[@philscomputerlab]

I'll try to do more, life has been very hectic the last few years...

[@K3NnY_G]

That's some good screen capture.. Looks like I'm just running a VM for the most part. xD

[@the_beefy1986]

Integer scaling was quite nice. +1

[@simplyhard]

Great video! As always! As for the performance charts: I would love if you could stick a couple of relevant cards in there for comparison. That is to say: unless it garbles the chart up with too much stuff to look at. Say, the MX400, MX440, or FX5200, etc. Either of the nvidia cards that are readily avaliable on the cheap would be great. Just to have a representation of the most common cards, perhaps one of for the high-end ones aswell, like the 9800 pro, or the FX5800. Most of us aren't collectors, but rather just looking to put a single retro machine together. It'd be nice to see how they stack and determine what's feasible to spend the dough on.

[@philscomputerlab]

Doing that adds a few days to making a video 🤣 remember I do this as a hobby not full-time like other pros ☺️

[@masejoer]

There are still reviews online from certain websites that will get you what you're looking for. Just look for original reviews of the graphics cards.

[@simplyhard]

@@philscomputerlab Oh I'm sorry, of course I didn't mean it like that. I assumed that you'd already have data from the making of previous videos. 👍

[@philscomputerlab]

@@simplyhard Unless I use the exact same system, I don't like taking old results. But yea, I haven't done a roundup in quite some time. Could do a budget AGP card roundup for example...

[@ApostolCV]

I have the same card but with PCI interface. It's really good for w98 era games and systems w/o AGP slot like Socket 7.👍

[@summerxia9027]

Phil,excellent!

[@KR2XD]

Looks great on LG's 65" OLED TV!

[@philscomputerlab]

I bet 😊

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

Green! AGP! Videocard! Thanks Phil! =D

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

Excellent video. It looks like the Radeon 7000 is as fast as a Voodoo 3 2000. Does the Radeon 7000 have a 64-bit or 128-bit memory bus ?

[@philscomputerlab]

64

[@warrax111]

64 but DDR. So it's in terms of bandwith like 128-bit SDR. Voodoo3 2000 had 128-bit SDR.

[@dabombinablemi6188]

I've been finding an FX 5600XT to be the perfect card for Windows 98 gaming (would be using a Radeon 9200 if it wasn't faulty). It works with the older drivers, has -texture- colour compression unlike the 5200 and -doesn't require manual driver install unlike my FX5500- (I now have a 128bit "FX 5200" that's NV34B with significantly higher than reference memory clocks). Downside will always be the price though - several Radeon VE could be bought for the cost of a single FX 5600XT at the moment (prices have over quadrupled since I bought mine).

[@awnordma]

Are the claims that there's unofficial fog table support false? It seems like a lot of what I could find seemed somewhat inconclusive. Though most pointed to an old tool called "ATi Tray Tools".

[@RetroTinkerer]

Sorry, no 4k TV... I could be fooling myself, but I think it looks quite sharp at 1080 on my phone!

[@Defiant031636]

I had this card, played Battlefield 1942 and Star Trek Armada 1 on it!

[@Tomatgurka]

These cards used to be all over the place back in the days.

[@remyronko]

Phil we have pretty much the exact same build down to the soundcard, with only difference being that my MBO is an Asrock K8NF3-VSTA 😁 Judging by the component set, when would you date this build?

[@airmicrobe]

I paired with GeForce 2 MX 400 to play resident evil 1. Edited. 3D mark 2000 is 5685 with pentium 4 Northwood. My best card is Radeon 9550 Xt.❤️

[@k9cj5]

I always thought the box art for the Radeon VE was cool. Phil what do you use to see your frame rate in windows 98? Thanks again for another awesome video.

[@philscomputerlab]

Fraps!

[@k9cj5]

@@philscomputerlab wow I had no idea fraps worked for 98. Honestly never even thought about trying it but I will now. Thanks again Phil!

[@xiseme9826]

Hi Phil, a question unrelated to the video but do you know of any alternatives to DDU Uninstaller? I'm using Windows XP and couldn't get DDU to run on it since I have SP1 which has an older net framework, is there any similar application that does the job of clean uninstalling the GPU driver? The original NVIDIA uninstaller leaves tons of files so I can't really rely on it. Thanks in forward

[@retro-computing-gaming]

I'm amazed how much higher those benchmark scores were than in the mobile version found in the HP T5710 thin client. Seems like a decent card. My go-to card for a Windows 98 build, if I'm going ATI, is the Radeon 8500 (or its FireGL 8800 equivalent).

[@philscomputerlab]

The 5710 has a weak CPU and holding back the Radeon...

[@philscomputerlab]

8500 is very nice, extremely powerful for 98 👍

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

Radeon 7000 vs Geforce 2 MX vs Voodoo 4500 would have been nice. Maybe in a future video :)

[@supermario8416]

I also want to see such a video.

[@BenState]

32GB of VRAM (@1:09) lol, :) Not bad for a retro card! I think Phil means 32MB?

[@Vfl666]

yeah 32mb

[@tassadar1977]

An unusual card! Is there a card you've not benchmarked at this point?

[@philscomputerlab]

Heaps! I have a lot of parts never used.

[@UpLateGeek]

My main memory of this era was that nVidia had a big lead over ATI, and the price of their top-eng graphics cards reflected that. Even their older Geforce 256 outperformed many of ATI's much newer cards, and the higher-end GF2 cards were pretty much a generation ahead of ATI. And that lead seemed to influence the uptake of the lower-end cards, with the GF2 MX cards being cheap and pretty much ubiquitous.

[@madmax2069]

Had the PCI version in my Beige G3 all in one powering a second monitor.

[@PhAyzoN]

How on earth did you get the CT4830 to actually work properly under Win98? I have 3 of them that I've tried across several system using any driver I could find (including your Audigy2 pack) and they've been constant trouble.

[@philscomputerlab]

Audigy 2 ZS drivers. If it acts up, try another PCI slot and disable IRQ gobbling devices like com, printer, USB, ethernet...

[@GC-cq5eq]

Nice! How do you run catalyst control center? I have a Radeon 9550 on my win 98 machine, and no CCC, official amd legacy driver...

[@MasterDrood]

Amazing video Phil, what would be a good 64 or 128mb gpu for 98se or 2000?

[@philscomputerlab]

There are so many options...

[@Felix-ve9hs]

I actually once had the Radeon 7200 but sold it for next to nothing, hope the new owner could make use of it

[@Mrhellacat]

i have a PCI one of these in a dell GX1 with a PIII and its a super funny card. half a radeon without t&l and the pci vers is only clocked at 133! still faster than a standard 128. stutters when trying to load textures!

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

ati RAGE!! for the win

[@VShuricK]

Own exactly same card years ago, paired AFAIR with Duron 800(? around that). Pretty decent card of that time, even flashed to use 72hz in SVGA modes under DOS (I play too many time with XCOM:Apocalipse on my Syncmaster 765. Sween times.)

[@kommandokodiak6025]

they really need to bring back that pull tab! I have got bing hands and fingers and i end up having to useing one of those pen type spudgers with the crowbar tip on one end to push onto the pcie retention latch

[@O.Shawabkeh]

The VE lacked a hardware T&L engine, was also considerably slower than original Radeon. A way to screw budget users.

[@O.Shawabkeh]

@SNES Nes Transform & Lighting, a DirectX 7 component. It was available on GF2 MX though, even the slow 200 variant.

[@smi03]

To be fair there have been much more disappointing budget cards than this. Voodoo4 for starters, which this card still easily beats even without T&L.

[@infinity2z3r07]

I've heard there are even 32 bit bus VE's out there

[@armorgeddon]

@@smi03 Voodoo4 has much better compatibility though and probably higher image quality. The lack of a hardware T&L engine was kind of overwritten in this video by the very strong CPU it was paired with. On older CPU this would've hurt much more in games which supported hardware T&L.

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

@@smi03 false. The Voodoo 4500 is faster by 10-20% than the Redeon 7000 in Direct3d and opengl and much faster in Glide game.

[@dabombinablemi6188]

Revisited this video. Still can't believe that I managed to get an example with well under half the reference memory bandwidth. Plus side, it actually does better than my SiS 315 example in some games (it has nearly double the bandwidth). Though that isn't a high achievement as a 90Mhz Voodoo2 or Savage4 GT do significantly better than the 315 in Quake and Quake II.

[@registrazioniduemillaotton6030]

1:11 small correction, 32MB not GB of Vram :)

[@guigui668]

Hi, i've got a 7000 pci in my Compaq desktop EN P3 833, this card has a lot of incompatibility problem with games from 3dfx golden age era, with D3D > year 1999 no issue at all though. good choice because costs nothing but i'll prefer a geforce 5200 instead.

[@ZXSpectrumHotel]

32 Gb of VRAM, WOW!

[@SquiddsHyper]

I have a question about the optiplex 9010 smallest version, can I fit a Radeon r7 350x GPU in it?

[@infinity2z3r07]

I have a Radeon 7000 VE. Adding even 1 mHz to memory clock instantly corrupts the screen haha

[@warrax111]

You need to clock synced, core and memory. They need to have same clocks.

[@infinity2z3r07]

@@warrax111 Thank you! I will remember this. Mine has PCI bus with DVI output, this is the only reason I kept it :)

[@warrax111]

@@infinity2z3r07 Yes, if I remember correctly, Radeon 7500 and later cards, didnt have this problem. :) Nvidia cards didn't have to be synced, memory could be clocked separately. :)

[@infinity2z3r07]

@@warrax111 It's funny how in 20 years I never learned it by accident. But it's a very weak card so I didn't use it much

[@the1990kman]

I do have a Radeon 7000 VE in my main Windows 98 PC, but mine is slightly different: it's PCB is smaller, it has VGA, S-video and Comp out (No DVI) and it actually has 64 MB of VRAM. And the performance is somewhat like with this one in the video. I didn't know about Anisotropic filtering though, I will need to look, if my drivers support that.

[@philscomputerlab]

Yes your driver should support it, if not, upgrade to latest.

[@the1990kman]

@@philscomputerlab Ok, thanks. I assume the 6.2 version is the latest version of the drivers that exists?

[@123ucr]

AMD Radeon 7000 64 mb is compatible with Windows 2000 and XP and maybe Windows 98/SE. It is also compatible with games like GTA 3 and Vice City, Metal Gear Solid 2, Elder Scrolls 3, WarCraft 3, Max Payne 1 and Mafia depending on your processor and depending on how much RAM you have.

[@jonchapman6821]

Most of those games are gonna struggle at anything more than 640 x 480, GTA3 especially. It’s definitely suited for older games.

[@123ucr]

@@jonchapman6821 --- If you have a good computer (at least a high-end Pentium III processor or a 2.0 GHZ Pentium 4 or faster) and a good amount of RAM (at least 256 mb ram) plus the right operating system like Windows 2000, most of these games will work alright on 640 by 480 or on low settings using this graphic card. That said, I would recommend at least a Nvidia GeForce 2 MX 400 64 mb video ram card or better for most of these games especially for GTA 3, GTA Vice City, Elder Scrolls 3 and MGS2. I remember using a 750 MHz Pentium III processor with Windows 2000 and Nvidia GeForce 2 MX 400 64 mb video card and 256 mb RAM and a DVD drive and it could play GTA 3 on low settings and I could get 20 FPS. My computer surprisingly could even play GTA Vice City but barely on lowest settings (12-15 fps average) and that is because GTA Vice City has pretty good optimization compared to GTA 3. Rockstar Games usually screws up PC ports, but GTA Vice City and GTA 5 are the only good PC ports for GTA games. The rest are crap especially GTA 4 (GTA 4 was the worst PC port by Rockstar Games).

[@drzeissler]

have you tested the ragetweaker that supports the R7000? there are features to activate 8bit-pal-tex and fog-table support. Don't remember if they worked.

[@metalworksmachineshop]

I have 2 cards one 32mb and one 64mb. the pcb is red, both ATI Radeon 7000 VE . Both work great in win 98SE. using a slot 1, Piii 550 , 384 sd ram , SB-16 isa

[@jarekmars8141]

32 GB of VRAM oh yeah ninja style of GeForce 4090

[@EpicureMammon]

I had totally forgotten about Shogo!

[@pikaporeon]

Picking one up on ebay to replace my Rage Pro Turbo - just want my windows 98 machine to have better Q3A performance, and I grew up near ATI's old headquarters

[@pavelfara9333]

Oh well, well. I has been disregarding 7000 and 7500Le and stuff like that. And it looks like a mistake! In their times those were the available options for most of the normal people. No one is hunting for them but I have saved some. The video has inspired me. I will give it a try in a period correct PC for "a gamer with no rich parents".. 😀

[@Guillermo_XT]

Currently i use the 9200 a member from Dosreloaded gave me for my GA-6BA P3 build. Already made the ATX-AGP current mod but in some games it still freezes. Could the 7000 series work better on my System?