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@jo-hd1kx
@jo-hd1kx 6 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments its clear that most of you think this is from the invasion of Iraq post 9/11. This is the FIRST gulf war that was fought to liberate Kuwait following the invasion by Iraq in 1990. At least try to understand what it is you are looking at before commenting.
@vk3139
@vk3139 6 жыл бұрын
Most of them probably weren't born in -91 so it's out of their frame of reference. They just keep parroting the same "There were no WMDs in Iraq, the war was a lie", not even understanding they are talking about the wrong war. Also something most people misunderstand is that there have been several finds of WMDs in Iraq, just not any nuclear weapons. Several stores of chemical weapons were found (And keep being found, several failed IEDs have turned out to contain chemical artillery shells) the question is just how viable they still are and how much of it is in the hands of IS and similar terrorist organizations at this time.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 6 жыл бұрын
@@vk3139 What everyone who's always crying about the whole "there was no WMD's" thing don't get is old Sadam WANTED every intelligence agency on the planet to think he had WMD'S, well he got what he wanted.
@vk3139
@vk3139 6 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 Yeah, that too. Practically the same thing North Korea has been pulling for so long. (Except they eventually got their nukes and missiles working, sort of) Desperately trying to appear more dangerous then they are to force the other parties to question everything they know about them. Problem is it can backfire and make the opposition think their only chance is a preemptive strike.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 6 жыл бұрын
@@vk3139 Yep, and that idiot over in N Korea doesn't have the brains or the understanding of his situation like his dad or grandfather did, they didn't believe their own BS but that idiot does, I hope that this sudden showing of control that has overtaken him recently is on the up and up, even if a single one of my fellow countrymen wouldn't get killed in a war with him I still wouldn't want to see the destruction that would be brought upon the people of S Korea or the people of the North for that matter, but I do believe in taking a firm stance against demigods like him, people can run their mouths on my country all they want but I'll bet they'd rather deal with the US than him.
@2CabrasLocas
@2CabrasLocas 5 жыл бұрын
@@vk3139 As a veteran of the first Iraq war, "desert storm", & prior to that "southern watch". YEAH, the whole WMD story was COMPLETE LIES! All the locals had name for the American forces there. Roughly translated as "the oil thieves". Uf you think we were there for ANY reason other than to steal control of that oil, and stop them from trading it without using the US dollar standard. Your a fool easily tricked by mass media & Gov. lies.
@davidca96
@davidca96 5 жыл бұрын
He should never feel like he failed his country or fellow soldier for cracking. No one can put up with pain forever, everyone cracks. They should be proud that they survived in my opinion.
@GB-vn1tf
@GB-vn1tf 5 жыл бұрын
That's just their professionalism. That and the British mentality. We think letting our mates down is as bad as anything else possible. Even if we've not done anything wrong.
@levonvardanyan3478
@levonvardanyan3478 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly every man has his breaking point, for some punching and kicking is enough others are scared of drowning, electricity, amputation of body parts, or fire or all of the above no man can put up with all of that for days, weeks, month’s or years.
@matthewmoore7862
@matthewmoore7862 3 жыл бұрын
@phyllis brady source?
@MrMSalexanderMK
@MrMSalexanderMK 3 жыл бұрын
STORY FROM THE KILLERS
@cissiepierce664
@cissiepierce664 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo brave men! You’re hero’s in my book!
@alrivas1477
@alrivas1477 5 жыл бұрын
"This is the last time she'll see me and it's not honorable" ... my god man. You two are heroes of the highest order. One of the best documentaries on real heroes I've ever seen and I'm not a young man.
@LHA8925
@LHA8925 6 жыл бұрын
What a superb and moving documentary. Just allowing them to sit there and talk and tell their side of the story and that was it. More need to be like this.
@iamgroot4080
@iamgroot4080 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. No f'in dramatic music, just amazing documentary
@Hawaiian80882
@Hawaiian80882 4 жыл бұрын
The beating of these two POW Brit pilots blew through our ranks like fire....we were chewing at the bit for payback....and we got it....U.S. Marine Corps, Task Force Taro, Desert Storm....Semper Fi my Brit brothers!
@para7843
@para7843 3 жыл бұрын
Good man well said
@allanirvine7304
@allanirvine7304 3 жыл бұрын
🇬🇧🤝🇺🇸
@thirdworldrider6991
@thirdworldrider6991 3 жыл бұрын
So you got mad that people who invaded and bombed another country got captured and punished for dropping bombs on them??? Ok
@warrennelson8480
@warrennelson8480 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me upset in a fundamental way
@thirdworldrider6991
@thirdworldrider6991 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many want pay back for water boarding
@thunderpussy8956
@thunderpussy8956 6 жыл бұрын
Hardy souls. Puts silly wee problems into perspective. I was a child when the first Gulf War was kicking off and I remember seeing these guys on television. Even as a 13 year old teen, I was sickened by the sight of poor John Peters looking so battered and broken. True gentlemen who deserve every bit of respect.
@MeAbroad2004
@MeAbroad2004 5 жыл бұрын
@Michael Moretti I do believe that in the above documentary they detail being beaten up chum. I take it actually watched it?
@Mungobohne1
@Mungobohne1 5 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom 4 жыл бұрын
​@Michael Moretti perhaps you where dropped as a child and it's not your fault you say stupid things
@LouisL1963
@LouisL1963 4 жыл бұрын
Quite harrowing to hear their accounts of the torture they underwent. One only has to look at John Peters' body language; legs and arms crossed quite tightly, having to relive the experience all over again. I imagine these poor guys had to have a ton of therapy afterwards. Brave lads - Per Ardua Ad Astra.
@engadeelalam
@engadeelalam 3 жыл бұрын
Mmm.. They were carrying 1000lb payload so they were not their to give choclates to children
@tammywitcombe7627
@tammywitcombe7627 Жыл бұрын
Watching you two heros tell your story made me so sad I sobbed the whole time. Thank you for your great service. Wyoming USA
@DJ122ify
@DJ122ify 3 жыл бұрын
The young pilot was seriously holding back tears talking about all of this. The utmost respect to these men, they served their country well and we all appreciate and love them for the awful experience they went through as sacrifice for protecting us and others!
@KuvDabGib
@KuvDabGib 3 жыл бұрын
How is invading an foreign country 3000 miles away protecting you ? Ah yes.. by grabbing natural resources your island doesnt have like OIL, so you can enjoy your way of life by walking over dead bodies! Very democratic!
@imatanyani
@imatanyani 3 жыл бұрын
They deserved worse. When you drop bombs on people and they catch you doing it, you should not expect VIP red carpet treatment.
@Forester-qs5mf
@Forester-qs5mf 2 жыл бұрын
@@imatanyani Except they didnt drop bombs on 'people' They were attacking a military target (airfield) and in the end had to jetison their bombs on the first mission when they were hit. Unlike Russia who deliberately targets civilians.
@JR-ut2ne
@JR-ut2ne Жыл бұрын
@@imatanyaniThey were dropping bombs on an airfield of an invading Iraqi force. That’s a legitimate military target. Furthermore you are entitled to humane treatment as a POW. What the Iraqis did to the aircrew was a war crime.
@Gerard_2024
@Gerard_2024 2 ай бұрын
@@imatanyani Uninformed comment. No knowledge of the facts.
@sheldonvandal6895
@sheldonvandal6895 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Flt. Lt. Simon Burgess. He is neither of the pilots depicted here. He also survived an ejection and capture during this war, but sadly was killed whilst flying a Hawk sortie in the U.K. From the short time I knew him, I was impressed with his humility, wit, and love for life.
@College247
@College247 3 жыл бұрын
A true gent and a sad loss in a unfortunate accident, RIP Budgie
@1010109999999
@1010109999999 3 жыл бұрын
The names don't match which one was that
@FTW523.
@FTW523. 3 жыл бұрын
No that sucks
@livefreeordie-t9l
@livefreeordie-t9l 3 жыл бұрын
no peace for killer 🏴‍☠️
@XXXTENTAClON227
@XXXTENTAClON227 3 жыл бұрын
@@livefreeordie-t9l Have you got more respect from the killers on the floor? The ones fighting on behalf of a repressive dictator who’s secret police are responsible for 250k deaths? Are you in favour of the Dujail massacre too? I guess I’d be more concerned if you liked him, considering you like genocide
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 3 жыл бұрын
Peters is quite obviously reliving the whole thing throughout this interview.
@squidboii
@squidboii 3 жыл бұрын
yes you can tell his focus or his gaze is kind of off and not focused on the interviewer. hes going through it in his mind
@geraldinehill711
@geraldinehill711 3 жыл бұрын
Upmost respect to these two. Thank you for serving us as best as you could. You were magnificent.
@toastecmo
@toastecmo 4 жыл бұрын
I was flying with VAQ-130 CVW-3 from CV-67 in the Red Sea in 1991. I was airborne on a strike when these guys went down. So glad they came home. Brave guys these Tornado drivers.
@marioglory8528
@marioglory8528 3 жыл бұрын
give them a happy hour and they r fine lol
@Envy-ie2wp
@Envy-ie2wp 7 ай бұрын
I'm Iraqi im sorry for what happened, my father had to flee saddam in his 80s and my uncle died a few months after the gulf war since he opposed the regime.
@vorpalinferno9711
@vorpalinferno9711 7 ай бұрын
Imagine suffering interrogation only to get blown up by friendly fire.
@michaeljohn8905
@michaeljohn8905 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the toughest men on earth. I’m dual citizen Brit / Yank and I’d love to think that I might have some of the British toughness in me. I’ll never know till I face something as hellish as this. These men are tough and and yet modest. Salute to these guys.
@hinckleyit
@hinckleyit 5 жыл бұрын
Respect to you for your comment Michael.
@michaeljohn8905
@michaeljohn8905 5 жыл бұрын
island hosting cheers 👍
@garryharriman7349
@garryharriman7349 4 жыл бұрын
Michael. It too ama duel citizen (Brit/American). I don't think anyone of us would know how we would react to a sittuation like theirs until we were submitted to it.
@sukhpindersangha4254
@sukhpindersangha4254 4 жыл бұрын
@Kenny the G British looted india
@anthonyrowland1170
@anthonyrowland1170 3 жыл бұрын
@@sukhpindersangha4254 Of it's people?
@petermontagnon4440
@petermontagnon4440 3 жыл бұрын
In the Canadian Infantry..... they taught us no matter how tough you are you will eventually talk. It was just a matter of time. The longer you held out....Don't be ashamed gentlemen!!!! I hope your PTSD will not effect you as mine did!!!
@nishwins1584
@nishwins1584 3 жыл бұрын
You will overcome
@shoominati23
@shoominati23 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they waterboard you in army training school because they want to show you the effects of the tactics you might be forced to employ. Nobody is able to pass without succumbing to the torture, nobody is meant to.
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just cooperate? I know it's a stupid question, but I would do it. However, I have never had comrade lives rely on me so maybe it would be completely different if a little bit of pain to me could save some friends.
@17irod
@17irod 3 жыл бұрын
@@aksmex2576 cause once you comply you’re useless to them and expendable while also putting a lot more of your brothers in arms at risk with the information you’re about to spill! At least the longer you hold out the more the info you possess is useless and less of a risk to your brothers at arms! I really hope that you’re never put into the position where you have to determine whether your life is worth more then let’s say 100-1000 of your countrymen and brothers at arms! Does that answer your question?
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 3 жыл бұрын
@@17irod yes it does. That's what I would have thought. I think being a higher ranking officer must be even harder, because they know a lot more. Although fighting an army with who follows the rules, and treats you with courtesy would be nicer. Like you can interrogate without torturing.
@mikelynn2829
@mikelynn2829 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I could imagine what they fully went through. Their mental strength must be phenomenal. I remember seeing those vids as a kid watching the war. So glad they made it back alive.
@douglastaggart9360
@douglastaggart9360 4 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is we've probably given asylum to some of these scum
@Frserthegreenengine
@Frserthegreenengine 4 жыл бұрын
@DownWith Imperialism How are they cowards? They did their duty, risking their life attacking Iraqi military targets and tried to liberate Kuwait.
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 3 жыл бұрын
@@Frserthegreenengine fighting for ones own home is one thing but fighting for another's is a completely next level of heroic.
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 3 ай бұрын
Lol ​@@aksmex2576
@catfish252
@catfish252 7 жыл бұрын
I am so grateful for the safe return of the RAF crew. Happy to see them back home safe and sound with their families.
@SharkbaitOhLala
@SharkbaitOhLala 3 жыл бұрын
“What is your name?” “John” “How about you?” “John” “Are you making fun of us?!”
@chnalvr
@chnalvr 3 жыл бұрын
Operation Desert Storm was a relatively short but horrific war for the men and women who were in Iraq and Kuwait. Many of these veterans today are suffering from PTSD from what they saw and experienced and have mysterious illnesses that have slowly disabled many of them. They are heroes but many of their lives were ruined. My brother is one of them.
@harisyoung4110
@harisyoung4110 2 жыл бұрын
Hero for invading others country and ruining the civilians, they deserved to be suffered in their entire life.
@MarcusTDM
@MarcusTDM 4 жыл бұрын
These guys are heroes. I’m proud to have met and spoken to John Nichol at Mildenhall Air Show. A much bigger thing for me than meeting any celebrity.
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 3 жыл бұрын
Met him at RAF Waddington in 2001
@jonathanrowe9243
@jonathanrowe9243 3 жыл бұрын
The bravest of the brave. Total and utter respect for these guys. Thank you for everything you went through.
@barbiecrocker7420
@barbiecrocker7420 3 жыл бұрын
Peters choking up really gets me. Best of British! I watched another interview with him and it’s much later on. Retired and greying hair. These men deserve every good word. They are just amazing. All POWs be it 7 weeks or 7 years have such strength and love of country. Thank you for your service to them and any serviceman, ally reading this. The American part of my family are all military. My British in laws are WW2, BEM vets, my Canadian family received Victoria cross and many awards.
@stanleyhood9873
@stanleyhood9873 3 жыл бұрын
My father was a POW. We both were treated like dirt by some of the very people he was trying to defend. I forgive but forget no. These people do not care about that. The only time I got to see my dad they kept butting in. I think money was the motive. As far as I know there was no child support when I was a child.
@tackywhale5664
@tackywhale5664 2 жыл бұрын
@Stanley Hood Who was he defending?
@rayrobbins4625
@rayrobbins4625 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. John Peters and John Nichol , thank you for your bravery and sacrifice . The pain you withstood is incredible . I don't know that i could have taken it . You are both to be commended . Your country must be very proud of you . I am ! May God bless you both in your lives .
@em8824
@em8824 5 жыл бұрын
Still in uniform after all that! More than anything that is deserving of respect.
@para7843
@para7843 3 жыл бұрын
He served till 2000
@dk5468
@dk5468 5 жыл бұрын
These guys are heroes. Brave men that did what most of us wouldn't ever be able to. Respect.
@Frserthegreenengine
@Frserthegreenengine 4 жыл бұрын
@DownWith Imperialism How are they cowards? They did their duty, risking their life attacking Iraqi military targets and tried to liberate Kuwait. The Iraqis were in a foreign country and these pilots were trying to defend Kuwait.
@msarkanyrend7216
@msarkanyrend7216 2 жыл бұрын
These guys are so well spoken. True gentlemen heros.
@jakhaughton1800
@jakhaughton1800 3 жыл бұрын
Sending that low level raid out in broad daylight was criminal. It should’ve been cancelled.
@topbanana4013
@topbanana4013 3 жыл бұрын
that's what the tactics was in them days, they lost allot jets doing it. like the tactics of years past they did all time in mosquitoes ww2 , to say criminal is wrong as you be cheering the sas just a few infiltrating beyond enemy lines with thousands around them ??
@ea5port419
@ea5port419 3 жыл бұрын
bananas almost as dumb as sending the black bellied night bombing lancasters in broad daylight
@Gerard_2024
@Gerard_2024 2 ай бұрын
@@topbanana4013 In proper comprehensible English please.
@minorcek
@minorcek 4 жыл бұрын
As an American, when I listen to them talk about being beaten while interrogated my heart gets real heavy and I have a desire to go bring the boys back home. Even though I know they're safe now
@shivajivythi7307
@shivajivythi7307 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God, what an ordeal both under went. Thank God both are safe. Salutes to those brave hearts. love and regards from India. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏🙏
@tsangarisjohn
@tsangarisjohn 5 жыл бұрын
Glad they returned safe. Hope their minds are at ease after all these years. I can’t imagine the fear and despair they must have felt. From being in full control to nothing... Brave guys 👏🏻
@roymeadows1708
@roymeadows1708 3 жыл бұрын
Brave,brave men..no reason to think of failing their country. God bless you both..
@pablopeter4821
@pablopeter4821 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service and sacrifice you both. My respect and admiration. Greetings from Mexico City
@colderwar
@colderwar 5 жыл бұрын
I met John Nicholl once at an air show in the early 90's, he was signing his novel at an air show and he looked VERY uncomfortable with all the attention, poor bloke.
@hinckleyit
@hinckleyit 5 жыл бұрын
He actually became a presenter for Discovery Channel and seized the limelight to some extent. John Peters on the other hand shunned the attention.
@davman115
@davman115 5 жыл бұрын
I bet he felt better once he checked his bank balance.
@kerimartens3519
@kerimartens3519 5 жыл бұрын
Davman the ex troll u
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom 4 жыл бұрын
@@davman115 well it's not her majesty that'll be looking after you once you're discharged
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 4 жыл бұрын
That's because he actually screwed up the initial attack. Imagine all that adulation when you know this yourself.
@MrSmid888
@MrSmid888 4 жыл бұрын
When Peters tells the story now he says they didn’t move or hide and the guys appeared after a short while shooting at them. Brave men. ✌🏻🇬🇧
@arlendavis
@arlendavis 5 жыл бұрын
These guy's are heroes. They have my respect.
@duncankent1330
@duncankent1330 6 жыл бұрын
You two men are offices and I salute you both sirs, your courage and bravery are the tip of the sword and I and us British civilians sleep sound in our beds because you patrol our skies and keep watch over our land, thank you both for your service and for the love of our country and way of life,
@coreyfellows9420
@coreyfellows9420 6 жыл бұрын
I'm willing to take a chance and say they probably aren't going to see your comment....just saying
@talatanand7103
@talatanand7103 5 жыл бұрын
These poor sods were sent there to enforce the will of American oil corporations. Not for you mate.
@phillipbaker9363
@phillipbaker9363 5 жыл бұрын
Talat Anand ignorant fool: oil goes on the open world market, all sals profits went back to the new Iraqi government. We don’t hate ou: we despise you.
@nickacelvn
@nickacelvn 5 жыл бұрын
well yes if you just scrape the surface son, look a little closer and you will see those who are giving the orders are killing our sons (or at least putting them in harms way) for nothing more than there own glory
@Frserthegreenengine
@Frserthegreenengine 4 жыл бұрын
@@talatanand7103 No, they were there because Iraq invaded Kuwait
@Aristotelezz
@Aristotelezz 4 жыл бұрын
I remember their beaten faces, from the news at the time, very well. Next year is 30 years ago,but it feels as if it were yesterday!
@ryanpacheco4047
@ryanpacheco4047 4 жыл бұрын
It is bizarre that the talk of a human being tortured is accepted yet the expletives are not.
@secondthought2320
@secondthought2320 6 жыл бұрын
You did what you had to do!! And limited information was disclosed. My respect to both!! You could see they were beaten and under distress.
@alje311
@alje311 4 жыл бұрын
There was a piece that a group of SAS soldiers did, they said after a certain amount of time passed and it became obvious that you are missing/possibly captured you can start giving a little bit of information out that is of little to no harm to get your captors to ease up on the abuse like saying if you were the pilot or navigator.
@blobblob2810
@blobblob2810 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely heartbreaking. God bless them both.
@emreus1
@emreus1 7 жыл бұрын
This channel has very good content. Thank you for the efforts of everyone involved.
@NanaPelletier
@NanaPelletier 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@bendover5515
@bendover5515 6 жыл бұрын
Chur ma cuzn!
@beawitched5252
@beawitched5252 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Peters on TV. The way he spoke...I was shocked at the brutality his captors had inflicted on him. Glad he and his crewman returned home.
@robertdore9592
@robertdore9592 4 жыл бұрын
Typical British armed forces totally cool and sanguine about a life threatening period in their service.
@borleyboo5613
@borleyboo5613 3 жыл бұрын
These men are heroes. God bless them for their service and their absolute courage under such horrendous conditions.
@e36racer44
@e36racer44 6 жыл бұрын
Heros. Poor John Peters looks really effected in this video. Hope they are both ok now
@thamesironworkers36
@thamesironworkers36 6 жыл бұрын
Rule Britannia John Peter's went on to be a best-selling author after leaving the RAF. One of the books I've read was called tail end Charlie about RAF Lancaster tail gunners in the Second World War which my father was one. A really good book. And the second one John Nicholls went on to be a journalist. If you're British and living in UK you've must have seen him from time to time on Sky News.
@johnnyclean8233
@johnnyclean8233 5 жыл бұрын
They'll never be the same after torture. They'll live with the trauma they've suffered till they die.
@adityavv96
@adityavv96 5 жыл бұрын
He became stronger mentally.Watch his recent interview
@npc77107
@npc77107 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like the pilot got the worst of the beating for sure!!
@lifeshort
@lifeshort 3 жыл бұрын
*affected
@harryf1ashman
@harryf1ashman 3 жыл бұрын
"Both men were relieved to fine themselves alive" - what a strange line. How do you feel when you wake up dead?
@coolvideos8864
@coolvideos8864 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. THANK-YOU for your service!
@crand20033
@crand20033 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing story of survival and true grit. Lucky that are still alive after being captured, tortured and imprisoned.
@paolotognini5230
@paolotognini5230 3 жыл бұрын
you are safe. .this is important. .and saddam its over!!thank you guys and now live our life with families. .God save the Queen
@yeiten007
@yeiten007 5 жыл бұрын
Courage: still in flight suit.......respect.
@dcollier7239
@dcollier7239 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both. Love from CANADA 💜💜
@aardvark1956
@aardvark1956 3 жыл бұрын
Watching in pain as the US flag from our embassy in Kabul is carried out (yet how can I possibly say “pain”). The Brits have every reason to be proud of these men. My very best to them and to their families.
@peteroca637
@peteroca637 4 жыл бұрын
True warriors and heroes."Those Who Dare Win".Total respect for them.
@sezza8516
@sezza8516 4 жыл бұрын
Emotion in John Peters is brutal to see, when describing the torture beginnings Brave, brave men I wonder if Peters blamed Nichol
@sezza8516
@sezza8516 4 жыл бұрын
@Barry Baz I agree he shouldn't have blamed him, but if 'fault' was to be passed it would be at Nichols door, if he didn't press the correct button or if it malfunctioned I don't know, they were in it together and survived is the main thing, and they were lucky to escape with their lives considering the allies bombed the prison they were in!
@GB-vn1tf
@GB-vn1tf 5 жыл бұрын
Its gotta be said, us Brits know how to get the best out of our equipment. The Sea Harriers in the Falklands and the Tornado in the gulf have both been used in roles they were never designed for yet they performed as well as their crews. Take a bow RAF and Navy pilots, possibly the most professional military on earth.
@dipling.pitzler7650
@dipling.pitzler7650 3 жыл бұрын
The Tornado was actually also designed for low level bombing raids ,it even has automatic terrain following capabilities.
@MaxAfterburner
@MaxAfterburner 7 жыл бұрын
In my book they're Gulf War Heroes, U.K. Warriors!
@kvarnerinfoTV
@kvarnerinfoTV 6 жыл бұрын
In reality they are aggressors, no better than Nazis.
@kingfisher111
@kingfisher111 6 жыл бұрын
Someone's warrior is someone's terrorist
@magictorch777
@magictorch777 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. was doing my duty. But it means a lot to hear that.. ✌☮
@details78
@details78 6 жыл бұрын
Is it on Amazon? How much?
@energeticenterprizes4974
@energeticenterprizes4974 5 жыл бұрын
Most definitely!!
@marcomarco760
@marcomarco760 6 жыл бұрын
Proud to be British and proud of these servicemen who defend our great country
@hinckleyit
@hinckleyit 5 жыл бұрын
Likewise Sir. Very proud to have served my country in that war. But, this was not in defence of our country - this war was an invasion of another sovereign state. And it was NEVER for the good of the Iraqi people. It was purely for money. OIL = MONEY. Nothing humanitarian about what we did. When I was sent to GW1 in December 1990 I was given much propaganda (including about chemical and biological weapons). All of that has been shown to be inaccurate. We were there purely for money. Protecting our supplies of oil.
@DrTWG
@DrTWG 3 жыл бұрын
22:13 Peter's body language reveals the anguish of the recollection.
@gzappa
@gzappa 5 жыл бұрын
I can remember this happening, they were put on TV while captives. We will never forgive or forget the reports of this brutality. Anyone who undertakes such acts is subhuman.
@elpistolero9394
@elpistolero9394 3 жыл бұрын
@قربت نهاية Brahimالصهاينة و حلفاءهم من الخونة Absolute clown.
@jimlassen9422
@jimlassen9422 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a fab interview with these two. I remember the 1991 first Gulf war, like I did with the Falklands War in 1982 and am very glad I wasn't involved. I am nearly 65 and recall the TV footage of these two paraded on TV at the time but obviously had little knowledge of their treatment then although John Peters looked very poorly. I guess lessons will be learned and it just shows that any war is bad. Unfortunately, some 30 years on, it still goes on so, when will us human beings learn from that? I hope these two are well and stable now.
@Rosco-P.Coldchain
@Rosco-P.Coldchain 5 ай бұрын
Oh I could, it was obvious from the pain on peters face that he had been tortured
@saintlacy
@saintlacy 6 жыл бұрын
censoring this mans story is so ridiculous
@salkola1967sk
@salkola1967sk 3 жыл бұрын
God speed to all pows Retired Cpl Royal engineers United Kingdom 🇬🇧
@getredytagetredy
@getredytagetredy 3 жыл бұрын
Then free all the IRA PRISONERS...
@peterwandera8273
@peterwandera8273 3 жыл бұрын
My sincere heartfelt respect to our two brothers! I feel it here in Nairobi 🇰🇪 💐❤️
@turcenoarthurjamil4364
@turcenoarthurjamil4364 3 жыл бұрын
I am here after John Peters recalls his experience on that day and his experience as a POW in Gulf War
@hinckleyit
@hinckleyit 5 жыл бұрын
I was there (Muharraq) and dined with John Peters before his mission. I remember a lot of details and am extremely proud to have supported our aircrew and contributed in a small way by serving my country - in albeit a pointless war and a waste of life.
@garryharriman7349
@garryharriman7349 4 жыл бұрын
Oil, gas, Petro Dollar and access to pipe liens mate. Garry H. Ex RAF. South Carolina
@johnmoriarty7331
@johnmoriarty7331 4 жыл бұрын
Desert storm was in principle morally on a sound footing. It was about the liberation of Kuwait. Greedy corrupt vultures as they always do jumped on the opportunity to make money from it. I used to think of Iraqis as the bad guys but having been there a few times I know different now. Every war ever is the young (usually poor) dying for the games of the rich and powerful
@jenjohnson492
@jenjohnson492 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. I feel so bad for vets after the Afghan disaster.
@gabrieljohannson6777
@gabrieljohannson6777 4 жыл бұрын
The irony here is that their captors are likely now living in the UK.
@gabrieljohannson6777
@gabrieljohannson6777 4 жыл бұрын
andy eccles - one can never be sure my friend. One can never be sure.
@busterruff9369
@busterruff9369 4 жыл бұрын
The way immigration is being controlled in the uk ,I’m surprised they aren’t living next door to them ,lol
@louissanderson719
@louissanderson719 6 ай бұрын
Actually, one of them moved to America, with the help from an American pilot
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 3 ай бұрын
😆 ​@@busterruff9369
@Durian_Defense
@Durian_Defense 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage of low level skimming over the desert at high speed.
@CrazyforCruiser
@CrazyforCruiser 5 жыл бұрын
Quite a story. I am glad they are alive and are with their families.
@Defender78
@Defender78 6 жыл бұрын
37:50 wow Cpt John Nichol so composed and clearly spoken when he is under duress and being interrogated; sheesh when I get pulled over by the cops for a tail light out I stammer and get all nervous and I'm a dam mess
@bulletproofkam7931
@bulletproofkam7931 5 жыл бұрын
Stiff upper lip old boy...
@stephenhathaway269
@stephenhathaway269 5 жыл бұрын
No rank of captain in the RAF, hes a flight lieutenant
@jamesmueller1921
@jamesmueller1921 5 жыл бұрын
A Chaps ,,, We don't worry about being pulled over. In the US, cops are starting to wear cameras.. So "We the People", no longer have to fear, (quite so much,) Our rights being violated. Or them trying to bully/intimidate/entrap, us...Yes,,, they will lie, in court under oath...I would trust a Hells Angel, before i would trust US cops...
@para7843
@para7843 3 жыл бұрын
Flight Lt he is not a captain. It's the equivalent rank of a captain in the British army
@Biggles2498
@Biggles2498 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhathaway269 Group Captain Old Boy ? Usually a Pilot or Navigator as a Station Commander.
@aceshigh6499
@aceshigh6499 5 жыл бұрын
I remember CNN was showing these two fellas after they were captured by the Iraqis. I knew immediately Peters was tortured and thought this dude had put up a fight. I remember so desperately wanting to know what had happened.
@aceshigh6499
@aceshigh6499 4 жыл бұрын
DownWith Imperialism Iraq invaded Kuwait remember? This was the first gulf war in 90. Totally different.
@iainansell5930
@iainansell5930 3 жыл бұрын
@Amar azar funny, thats the height iraqi planes used to drop chemical weapons on iran from...
@oldcremona
@oldcremona 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a sitting US President saying "I like the guys who don't get captured." Inconceivable yet true. No respect for the military.
@peteroca637
@peteroca637 4 жыл бұрын
Just one of the many reasons I have no respect for him.
@slickrick2420
@slickrick2420 3 жыл бұрын
Add to the fact that Trump was a draft dodger. He's an utter coward with not an iota of human dignity.
@juliaforsyth8332
@juliaforsyth8332 3 жыл бұрын
@@slickrick2420 Trump was utterly contemptable saying these words.
@charlescoulson
@charlescoulson 3 жыл бұрын
I am now looking at this again thirty years after the event and I am even more horrified at the treatment meeted out to two very brave men. I have read John Ns' account and not seen much of JP, but I just hope you both are enjoying your lives. You deserve peace and I hope you have found it. What ever peace means.
@johnbarton3252
@johnbarton3252 3 жыл бұрын
I am not a military man, so I am hoping you can answer a question for me please. Why did Allied forces twice bomb the Iraqi prison knowing that Allied forces prisoners were in there ?
@XXXTENTAClON227
@XXXTENTAClON227 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbarton3252 because it forces evacuation, unless everyone in the building is willing to die
@danielcuellargomez
@danielcuellargomez 3 жыл бұрын
The intro of this documentary is gold.
@dadwda205
@dadwda205 2 жыл бұрын
I am an Arab man from Syria. I apologize for that. I condemn strongly the war on Iraq in 2003, because that will allow Assad and Iran to kill and destroy the Syrian people , but at same time, I apologize for every British, American or western pilot was insulted In Iraq . I am happy because they are safe now in their homeland. At same time, I condemn their air raids against the civilians in the Iraqi cities . I was detained and tortured in Syria, for nothing, just because I am a Sunni Muslim man . I wish peace for the nations of the United States and the United Kingdom as well as all Europe.. We need to get united against Russian, Chinese and Iranian aspirations. I apologize again. Syrian refugee in Sweden.
@jo.s7993
@jo.s7993 Жыл бұрын
Wrong war. This was to liberate Kuwait after Iraq invaded the country. This was in 1990
@TGoDReaPer
@TGoDReaPer 3 жыл бұрын
I was there with this squadron we called them the awesome XV, I was lucky enough the year before to get a back seat jolly in this aircraft while on detachment in Scotland, John Nicol sat me in the Nav seat and went through everything I needed to do during the flight and he was awesome. At that time his pilot was Chris Foan ( Fingers) and he flew with me, Chris I believe left the RAF some time after and John Peters took over that crew. True gentlemen and heroes, we all loved being part of the “Awesome XV”
@comcastjohn
@comcastjohn 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad that they came through ok for the most part. They will have mental scars for the rest of their lives but may they lessen with time. They served with honor and I am glad that they had the courage and will to return to flight
@alivewithpassion
@alivewithpassion 5 жыл бұрын
They should make a movie about this!
@bulletproofkam7931
@bulletproofkam7931 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely, it would be great, real life movies are the best.
@Steelninja77
@Steelninja77 4 жыл бұрын
I'm quite old now 43 and I remember being locked on the BBC and ITV news when this was happening and being so gutted when I heard these brave RAF pilots had been captured. And a day or so later when I saw the maltreatment. After that I rejoiced at every bomb that fell on the Iraqi regime targets.
@InspirationalShirley
@InspirationalShirley 5 жыл бұрын
The comment section, never fails to deliver! Filled with...... either aviators or wannabe jihadis 🙄
@terencedrennan4781
@terencedrennan4781 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service gentlemen
@selenadoo3758
@selenadoo3758 7 жыл бұрын
They didnt do any service to you, they did service to bankers and financiers. Only thing you got from this is terrorists hacking people with machetes and cars.
@ramairgto72
@ramairgto72 6 жыл бұрын
selena doo A. We dropped bombs on your nation. B. We are going to.
@l6i6v6e9
@l6i6v6e9 6 жыл бұрын
they would do service for us if we needed it thanks very much!
@petecastle5762
@petecastle5762 3 жыл бұрын
Great documentary, god bless these men and their families
@pianoz4u1
@pianoz4u1 6 жыл бұрын
Read the book and it was so riveting. Considering my comrades in Viet Nam, it gives some insight on the perils of POWs. very few POWs can recall and share their expierences.
@johnlumb1078
@johnlumb1078 4 жыл бұрын
I was a police officer when this all started and watched the attacks start whilst on foot duty one night at a train stn managers TV. I had a friend and colleague whose husband was a Wing Commander at the time on Tornados a worrying time for her. Meanwhile, my dad was ex RAF and was a Technical Author wrote books for the MOD on the weapons systems and Radar on the Tornados and Harriers.
@hattiecadwell6605
@hattiecadwell6605 3 жыл бұрын
I myself was never in the British Armed Forces. But I have PTSD as a woman from a traumatic past. I hope all the individuals who have explained what happened to them are ok and getting the help they need.
@williamacheson3569
@williamacheson3569 3 жыл бұрын
Give it a rest
@carlabroderick5508
@carlabroderick5508 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 64. These guys are so handsome, brave and well spoken, my faith in humanity is restored.
@bulletproofkam7931
@bulletproofkam7931 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing, I’ll miss the tornados....
@andybarton6055
@andybarton6055 3 жыл бұрын
I remember it as though it was yesterday, it was 30 years to this month when I returned back to RAF Coltishall. I was the Sergeant I/c MT at the time.
@trespire
@trespire 5 жыл бұрын
Start was delayed because of operational difficulties ? Sounds like someone one the ground buggered up.
@050808yuyu
@050808yuyu 3 жыл бұрын
What courage.. These guys r legends
@somethingelse4878
@somethingelse4878 3 жыл бұрын
Its so strange how we remember things like what you were doing on that day. I was using an Amiga 500 and my gf asked me to open a tin of corned beef, I did and cut my hand open Having to go get ten stitches as we could not stop the bleeding
@rexel666
@rexel666 3 жыл бұрын
This is so moving.
@user-MRG1130
@user-MRG1130 6 жыл бұрын
Let me start by saying both of these men have done more for their country then I have mine, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for both of them. I keep looking at the faces of these men when they were forced to speak to the media. Without question, one was tortured and the other must have talked fairly quickly. It's easy to say sitting behind the computer in the comforts and safety of my home what I would've done, but until your in that situation you truly don't know. I think if I was the one who spoke, looking back I'd be less upset about what I said, and more upset about the fact, me talking may have caused the man with me more torture for not talking! Happy they both lived another day, and I'm truly grateful to all who serve.
@jammiebrown7709
@jammiebrown7709 3 жыл бұрын
That's not the case... both were badly beaten but JP looked worse because his facial injuries were received at the point of ejection from the aircraft and then 'worked on' during the interrogation. He also had a concussion which lasted through to the time of the TV interview... which added to his reaction and speech difficulties. JP was the first to 'break' by revealing he was a pilot... JN was still holding out at that point. BUT none of that really matters... everyone breaks, that's just being human. The extent of bodily injuries can't be gauged from looking at someone. Making judgemental statements about how one victim suffered compared to another is, frankly, juvenile and you should be ashamed of yourself.
@Kabul81
@Kabul81 7 жыл бұрын
No shame in crying mate!🤔 Jman👀
@johnnyclean8233
@johnnyclean8233 5 жыл бұрын
Every man has a breaking point and even if you dont they may jusr decide to kill you anyway. Get the prime minister to take the same treatment and see how she responds.
@nickacelvn
@nickacelvn 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyclean8233 lol she would be giving up the secrets on the threat of removing her cup of tea
@geezerme5628
@geezerme5628 5 жыл бұрын
Pudsey
@Frserthegreenengine
@Frserthegreenengine 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bakus74 Cried because he was tortured. Crawl back to your cave.
@thumbsfree5587
@thumbsfree5587 5 ай бұрын
I watched this quite a few times as a younger lad. Now, 30 odd years later, tour of Afghan and a bigger understanding of the world, this is even more gripping! JP went through a lot, so much respect, he relived every little thing during his interviews. Fascinating documentary
@marcmaquinay3215
@marcmaquinay3215 4 жыл бұрын
I followed that war 48 hours before the begining. I thought they where going to be executed.
@marilynvandererf86
@marilynvandererf86 5 жыл бұрын
Man ,what a great pair of heroes, It is ok to shed tears no mater what your gender is ,I think it is good and is part of the healing ,,God bless the both of you .
@MrLandry2010
@MrLandry2010 6 жыл бұрын
Very dangerous mission courageous men.
@LilThreat88
@LilThreat88 11 ай бұрын
Such a well told story and amazing footage. Thank you for compiling and posting this
@TheMrlandman
@TheMrlandman 3 жыл бұрын
What brave men. You deserve the highest respect.
@blakena4907
@blakena4907 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched Ward Carrolls interview with Nichol, and this complements that very well.
@WizzardPrang
@WizzardPrang 5 жыл бұрын
I suggest you read John Nichol's book "Tornado Down".
@subscriberswithnoVideos-yx3jf
@subscriberswithnoVideos-yx3jf 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Brsyant
@jackcohen4931
@jackcohen4931 5 жыл бұрын
Also Bravo-20 (though that ones about an SAS patrol).
@phillyneveryoumind415
@phillyneveryoumind415 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackcohen4931 apparently a lot of the book is fabrication, in terms of the encounters they had with enemy combatants at the very least. There is a documentary that went into it step by step of their journey. Kinda sucks to find out, I thought that book was legit when I first read it.
@X-Gen-001
@X-Gen-001 3 жыл бұрын
They showed incredible resilience and the information they surrendered was of no real strategic value. They survived the ordeal and that's more than enough.
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