Firehawk or C4 ZR1...what would you have picked 🤔?
@kfh17 ай бұрын
If I had the money, which I didn't, I would've loved to have a C4 ZR1. Hell, I would've taken a stock C4, I loved the look of those Vettes back in the 80's... I was driving a Fiero instead, that's all I could afford at the time!!! lol
@ValkyriesMoon7 ай бұрын
@@kfh1 firehawk of course. I own an 02. what's funny is an 88 fiero GT t-tops pull corvette money now. My 87 gt had to get an engine swap to not feel like it's dragging its ass.
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman7 ай бұрын
Firehawk of course
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman7 ай бұрын
@@kfh1 Fiero was a decent ride, I had a new '87 GT
@driverjamescopeland7 ай бұрын
Firehawk... simply because I couldn't afford the tires for the Corvette. Also, the only C4 ZR1 I would own, is the LT4 version... which came later. The DOHC Mercury 350 was an over-developed, over-engineered boat anchor.
@Danpopup7 ай бұрын
I work for SLP in the early 2000's. We were doing the Firehawks and the Camaro SS. I worked on the hoods and spoilers for both as well as building the exhaust systems. I was there until GM closed the plant in Quebec. I loved the job.
@samueljackson24787 ай бұрын
Didn't SLP design the Comp Camero and Firebird?
@daveyboy_7 ай бұрын
Me too
@BlackRam177 ай бұрын
Why did you guys go away from anything other than exhaust and an air box as far as performance goes post ‘92?
@daveyboy_7 ай бұрын
@BlackRam17 wjatchoo talkin bout Willis We did the diff. The tranny the engine the wheels
@4motofanatic7 ай бұрын
Hey Dan, I've a question for you. Being as you worked on the hoods, what did you guys use to cut the front bumper to clear the hawk hood to close. Cutting off those 2 dog ears on the factory bumper. I'm guessing a template of some kind and a hot knife?
@craigbaker92527 ай бұрын
I ordered #36 1997 Firehawk. I last true Firehawk hood for that year. Triple black, Hurst Shifter on the 6 speed, aluminum wheels not the chrome. I did get the full synthetic package and heavy duty rearend that I damn near blew at a red light race in north Atlanta. Speedo went to 155mph, it would do that in 5th and then still pull faster on 6th. Absolute beast of a machine. Insurance killed me and I never got a ticket. Yes it beat Corvettes and 308 Ferrari’s. Kept it 4+ years then life happened. Damn I miss that car.
@SHAGG13Ай бұрын
A Honda civic with a B16 will smash a 308. I had one. So slow and disappointing. 😢... They need another 150HP to match the hype of the body lines. I believe the Firehawk was fast. I've raced a WS6 THEY were fast as hell too ..
@G31mR22 күн бұрын
The car would not pull top RPM in overdrive sixth gear and was slower in sixth than it was in fifth gear; just like the C4 Corvettes that used the same transmission.
@416cubes49 күн бұрын
Sounds like a beauty
@hailstorm19867 ай бұрын
I'm a proud owner of a 94 SLP Firehawk that I purchased from the original owner who happened to have been on the coaching staff of the 49ers in the late 90s. I absolutely love my Firehawk and never thought in my wildest dreams that I would have been able to own one as soon as I did.😇🔥🦅
@dustinnorwood46967 ай бұрын
My mom bought a 94 brand new from a dealer in Houston. She would let me drive it occasionally throughout high school. Loved that car more than any other. Was sad when she sold it 7 years later. If I hadn't been a broke college student, I would have bought it off her in a second.
@hailstorm19867 ай бұрын
@@YankeeWoodcraft never said that. Why would you think that?? Are you ok??🤣
@hailstorm19867 ай бұрын
@@YankeeWoodcraft go get some help..
@mtb4l6733 ай бұрын
Go Niners! 😎
@earlrichardson3857 ай бұрын
I thought the coolest thing about SLP cars was they didn’t look outrageously different from stock like some aftermarket companies. If you didn’t know any better you just thought it had wheels and exhaust until it smoked you.
@monkeymouse14037 ай бұрын
SLP performance package cars looked stock other than the exhaust tips and would run with the fastest GNs at a higher mph in the quarter back in 1989 or so
@sandasturner95297 ай бұрын
Sleeper looks
@Len1977gt6 ай бұрын
good point
@John-np2bf6 ай бұрын
Exactly. They looked like stock Fire Hawks with the WS6 package and Camaro SS stayed just SS. But under my hood and all around the car were factory and SLP upgrades. Fun 12 second car.
@AudioFileZ6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Really let the attractive lines of the car show.
@ajdahun7 ай бұрын
You neglected a major fact regarding WHY this car was built. It had to do with a racing series called Showroom Stock. This was made to destroy anything in that racing series. And it did.
@StoffelDilligas7 ай бұрын
Never heard of this championship, will check it out. Thanks for mentioning it👍
@jamesmedina20627 ай бұрын
Stock became showroom stock. What a deal!
@ajdahun7 ай бұрын
@StoffelDilligas I believe the C4 vette did not meet the criteria to race in the series, hence the firehawk.
@DHolmquistDesigns7 ай бұрын
It’s wouldn’t have if the C4 wasn’t kicked out for being WAY faster than everything else, especially around a corner lol
@DHolmquistDesigns7 ай бұрын
@@ajdahunC4 met the criteria until they realized nothing else stood a chance against them so they made them get their own series aka the corvette challenge 😂
@mpound977 ай бұрын
I've ALWAYS loved the "Firehawk". I still have "Car and Driver" magazines from the early 90's that showcased this car...
@strongislandautoenthusiast8417 ай бұрын
I remember the Pontiac Formula Firehawk and I remember my older brother trying to build his own Formula Firehark using his Formula as the donor car. As much as I personally liked the Pontiac Trans-Am, my first sports car was the 1980 Chevy Camaro Z28 with the Air Induction hood, front ground effects, side stone guards, rear spoiler, T-Tops and rear window louvers. What a great era for sports cars and car enthusiast.
@gordocarbo7 ай бұрын
Love those Zs. Have an 80 or 81 Steering wheel on my 67 El
@donaldcurtis92297 ай бұрын
I have a 84 Pontiac transempt.Fully loaded 305 air duction to ridgelawner 38800 miles on my car and I got a 97 Firebird formula transam.L t one build to the hill
@donaldcurtis92297 ай бұрын
38803
@TeamJesus5157 ай бұрын
4th Gen Firehawk Ran air hood scoop was epic So yes video please
@thebionicbassplayer7 ай бұрын
Do the 4th Gen Firehawk as well, great job on this video. Pontiac was always being treated like a red headed stepchild by GM, but always found a way to sidestep the corporate neutering.
@Gee_Jay7 ай бұрын
Thanx to another vid, I discovered the GREAT Looking OG, 1964 Pontiac Banshee Concepts (XP-833), The long-nosed Silver 2-seat coupe looked SO Sweet - it could have been a Pontiac Corvette sibling, like the Camaro & Firebird sharing platforms - In fact, the 1st Banshee looked even smaller & lighter - Could have been quick with a six, at entry-level price, a 2-seater below the Vette - But SO Much Sweeter than a Fiero !
@TAWS-wq3hx7 ай бұрын
Naw overhyped LS
@michaelm33817 ай бұрын
Another vote for a fourth gen Firehawk video. I have 3 fourth gen Firebirds and absolutely love these cars.
@BigTimeRushFan21127 ай бұрын
Remember when Buick destroyed the Vette years before this with the GNX? Pepperidge Farms sure does...
@thebigpicture20327 ай бұрын
Pontiac borrowed their engine and put them in 1989 GTA’s. Those were the fastest Firebirds ever sold, even beating the mighty SD 455 and the LS1 cars.
@BlackRam177 ай бұрын
The TTA did also
@BlackRam177 ай бұрын
@@thebigpicture2032they put them in the Turbo TA, which was not a GTA.
@johnhutchison97827 ай бұрын
.... On the next episode of "Where Are They Now?", the Buick GNX 😜
@BigTimeRushFan21127 ай бұрын
@@johnhutchison9782 sponsored by Pepperidge Farm Milano double milk chocolate cookies! PS bring your own glass of milk to the party...
@TheMattC99997 ай бұрын
They should have used the Trans Am GTA as the base model. It was just so much better looking.
@jukeboxzero14 ай бұрын
GTA luxury options added weight - 3,554 lbs.. Base TA looked the same and could be had with all the performance options but weighed 194 lbs. less.
@jayreezy67334 ай бұрын
Firehawk was a.lot.less weight
@jukeboxzero14 ай бұрын
@@jayreezy6733 Per Car and Driver magazine the 1992 Firehawk weighed 3448 lbs..
@coolruehle4 ай бұрын
@@jukeboxzero1 It's like an entire drivers weight, removed from the vehicle
@WardoUSA3 ай бұрын
The fire hawk was always based on a firebird/formula
@judgegixxer7 ай бұрын
I remember these. I made my own version. I have a 91 Z28 1LE that I bought in 93’. A few years ago I put Zz6 350 in it with a 6 speed Tremec and and various other stuff. It’s 405hp/406ftlbs. I measured 4.4 0-60 multiple times so. It’s also red. Still have all the original parts.
@eriklarson91377 ай бұрын
0-60? Ok. What was the 1/4 mile? Something that matters. Lol.
@justins214827 ай бұрын
@@eriklarson9137 I mean it cant be that far off could it. Id say he got close enough. after all he said he made HIS OWN VERSION. not an exact replica
@mikee29237 ай бұрын
I’ve owned a red 89 Formula 350 since 91. I always wanted to collect the pieces and convert it to a Firehawk but didn’t have the money to pull it off. But I did buy some of SLP’s performance upgrades like their intake runners. By the time I had the money to begin collecting the parts, they were discontinued. So I ended up putting a Paxton supercharger on it instead. That with all the other modifications done through the years puts it square into the same performance territory. Never raced it officially at the track, but I was able to walk away from an early LS1 Corvette back in the late 90s. My wife was able to embarrass a convertible LS1 Trans Am at a stoplight to the point the guy wouldn’t pull up next to her at the next light. It’s a nice sleeper because it appears stock and the Paxton is pretty quiet at idle.
@judgegixxer7 ай бұрын
@@eriklarson9137 closest drag strip to me is about a 1000 miles away. Obviously it would be around same time as fire hawk. It ain’t rocket science kid.
@anthonylaudano94357 ай бұрын
MAN THATS AWSOME I HAVE A 92 Z28 THAT I ORDERED NEW BACK IN 92 AND I STILL HAVE IT TODAY WITH 19 THOUSAND ORIGINAL MILES AND I WANTED T TOPS SO I COULDNT GET THE 5.7 350TPI WITH T TOPS LOL I DONT WANT TOO WRECK THE CAR BY TRYING TO MAKE IT AS FAST AS CARS OF TODAY BUT I WILL BE DOING A FULL EXHAUST AND I LOVE TOO BUY ANOTHER 92 Z28 WITH A LOT OF MILES SO I CAN MOD THAT AND LEAVE MY ORIGINAL Z28 ALONE BUT IF I WANT TOO GO FAST I HAVE A 850HP GT500 AND I HAVE 2 SUPER SNAKES LOL BUT IF I BUY ANOTHER Z28 MY PLAN IS TOO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID BUT MY ORIGINAL Z IS STAYING THAT WAY.
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman7 ай бұрын
I bought a new '98 black/black Ttop Ram Air LS1 6sp Trans Am & my best friend one uped me by getting a new '99 black/tan Ttop Ram Air 6sp Firehawk & man was that machine bad ass & mine wasnt too shabby either! Wish I still had my 1st Trans Am, an '85 black/gold SE Bandit II Edition that I got in '87 & sold in '96 ✌💖☮
@thebigpicture20327 ай бұрын
I feel ya! Bought a red 2000 WS6 TA vert 6 speed and workmate went and bought a red 2000 vert Firehawk which was #02 iirc. On the bright side, it did make for a cool parking lot and lively commutes home.
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman7 ай бұрын
@@thebigpicture2032 oh yea, same here! We worked at the same place & had the 2 coolest cars in the parking lot & most times layin rubber on the way out! I also occasionally drove my 1976 Dodge California Custom van with shag carpet, CB, 8 track, mini bar & fridge, dual moonroofs, queen bed, Cragar SS mags on BFG white letter tires & a healthy 360 4bbl with side pipes! I sold it in 2014 for the right price now regret not having it...or my Trans Ams! My junior year in Hi Skool I got lucky & scored a bank repo 1978 gold Ttop Z28 for what was owed, $2000, love to have it back too
@UseYourIllusions787 ай бұрын
I have a 93 formula F1 now for last 4 yrs ..I'm mid 40s .I've had 6 total .. 84 trans am , 82 trans am with nos lol both auto Blk an gold non t top .. 79 t/a 10th 6.6 t top gold ..miss it .. 86 ta ,88ta , an current 93 formula f1
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman7 ай бұрын
@@UseYourIllusions78 Nice...My 1st car was a '67 Firebird 326 then an '83 black T/A, '85 Bandit II & '98 LS1! Always liked those Formulas too even the Fiero Formula
@ISLAMICSTORIES136 ай бұрын
I thought the trans am only came in LT1? so that generation of firebird the trans am and firehawk and ws6 all share the same LS1 just with different features?
@Brzypoint6 ай бұрын
I am still the original owner of a dark blue 2002 (Last of the Breed) Firehawk convertible with a 4 speed auto. The build out of mine is one of 18. It has around 28,000 miles on it. I still drive it every summer on super nice days, about 500 miles a year. Never seen snow and MAYBE a handful of rainy days...It has all the bolt ons, headers, cat delete, 3" all the way back to the muffler etc... and I still retain the stock parts. Made 393 RWHP with a tune. Welded subframe connectors and strut tower brace really make it a solid car, zero cowl shake! Best run in the 1/4 is 12.82 @ 108. Super fun car!!!
@StarlightEater3 ай бұрын
*chefs kiss* Stay frosty bro!
@joshthemediocre78247 ай бұрын
Before the internet i spent so much time looking through auto traders from all over the US. I've always loved a Firehawk, i've watched them go from being super steals to going through the roof in prices over the last 30 years, like everything i guess, or everything that a bunch of people think is cool. They are great looking super rare cars, but yeah i'd rather have a c4 ZR1 than any of them.
@kellygibson46537 ай бұрын
IMO the Transam Firebird should've never disappeared from production. One of GM's most iconic and popular cars.
@billymanilli6 ай бұрын
I bought one of those dana 44s from E-town swap meet around 10 years ago for 200 bucks... lmao I couldn't believe it, Guy had no idea what he had. not saying it was "out of a Firehawk", or anything... it was probably just bought from the dealer, but they're still REALLY rare pieces and doesn't break with 150 hp like the stock ones do. Made me and my 84 TA happy that day!
@ejgrant51917 ай бұрын
The intake maifold on those was designed by noted Engine Developer Ryan Falconer who also did other projects for GM like the Splayed Valve Indy V6 turbo stock block motor and the 1200HP IMSA Corvette GTP twin turbo V6's. They made FAR more HP than any other intake in that era. Falconer also used those V6 program heads to create his V12 motor most commonly found in experimental aircraft these days. Brilliant man.
@monkeymouse14037 ай бұрын
Incorrect, the TPIS miniram made more HP, but less TQ than the SLP intake. GM later copied the Miniram as it looks almost identical to the LT1 intake that debuted in 1992.
@toddprater144 ай бұрын
Makes sense the lt1 had 30 more horsepower than the outgoing l98 but it had less torque…not much less but it was less than the 345lbs the 90-92 350’s had.
@bobbyshaftoe7 ай бұрын
'with their transams'???? The GOAT is litterally... The Goat.
@wizerulz7 ай бұрын
In 1997 I bought a 4th gen 93 Firehawk, 6 speed manual, I loved that car and it had the best sounding exhaust system with dual outlets in the drivers side. Leather interior/t tops total dream car. I put a short throw shifter, roller rockers and an Aluminum SLP flywheel with the stronger LT4 clutch, that car was a true delight to drive. The 4th gen’s rode better than the third gen’s and seemed more stable SLP was commissioned by Rick Hendrick in Charlotte to build commemorative 30th anniversary Camaros so I had a great privilege to actually work for SLP in their shop in Charlotte until the build out was completed.
@Kdog3077 ай бұрын
had a 88 iroc-z z-28 and the doors would rattle on every pebble, but hell even my best friends mom had to go for a ride in it lol miss that girl(the car)
@grantman647 ай бұрын
Great video on the OG Firehawk!! Definitely want to see a follow-up video on the 4th-gen Firehawk, as I have a 1996 Comp T/A - which is basically a combination of Firehawk and Pontiac Trans AM WS6 hardware with specific cosmetics to celebrate the 25th anniversary of BF Goodrich's Comp T/A performance tire.
@johnnyd68787 ай бұрын
I had an ‘83 T/A. Super fun for a high school kid in the mid 90’s
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
That’s an awesome high school car
@billymanilli6 ай бұрын
I daily drove an '84 TA in high school... absolutely LOVED it White with black trim, two tone grey interior, 5 speed... was SUPER CLEAN and I put Weld pro stars on it.. I got compliments all of the time on it I still have it, 25+ years later... I want to restore it to the way it was back then, but money and time just aren't things that I have right now, unfortunately!
@Zzus3217 ай бұрын
Back when Manual transmissions ruled the World
@adamweston41527 ай бұрын
Manual gearboxes still rule the world in Europe, automatic boxes are for lazy ass people.
@Kuhladestkyicky7 ай бұрын
Now people think driving a stick is a massive accomplishment.
@presmasterflash75557 ай бұрын
Remember when they were colloquially called “standard” because they were the standard and you upgraded to the automatic. If you didn’t mind paying the upcharge.
@Zzus3217 ай бұрын
@@presmasterflash7555 Yup
@jokerzwild007 ай бұрын
Naw, back in the 80s automatic was pretty much the norm even for ""performance"" lol cars like the Firebird. In the US anyway. Were there more sticks back then? Sure. They definitely weren't the rule though. Most people just want to get from a to b with as little fuss as possible. Comparatively few people, then as well as now, want to row through gears everywhere they go. Think about what the top selling models have been through the years. Do the kinds of people who buy those cars care to manually shift their gears? Sticks did rule in high end, non-US actual performance cars though. Porsche, Ferrari, etc. It's a shame that now even in that category various automatic shift options have taken over.
@Graver81-697 ай бұрын
I had the opportunity to drive the last generation FireHawk back in the early 2000s and I loved it more than any Corvette at the time. I think it was the best version of the Firebird that was ever produced
@Blas4ublasphemy7 ай бұрын
Cool cars for sure but come on, a C5 Z06 is better in every way...
@Graver81-695 ай бұрын
@@Blas4ublasphemy well yeah, but the FireHawk was a total vibe. The coolest ZO6 I had the opportunity to drive was a C6. Wicked machine!
@Blas4ublasphemy5 ай бұрын
@@Graver81-69 I love F-body cars too, my first car was a 1989 Firebird, then a 1986 TPI Trans Am and finally a 2002 T56 SLP Camaro SS I own to this day. This car has been built 3 times now (3rd engine, 2nd trans, swapped rear )with really no expense spared suspension or driveline wise and I love it for the street and strip fun it delivers and all the memories I share with it. I have a Fiesta ST too and really wish my Camaro handled like that car lol.
@Graver81-695 ай бұрын
@@Blas4ublasphemy those are some serious cars my man! I bet the Camaro is a damn beast! And the Focus ST is badass as well as
@Blas4ublasphemy5 ай бұрын
@@Graver81-69 TY the Camaro is currently 427CI LS3 swapped running on a speed density tune with holly sniper intake, LT headers running into SLP chambered center mount exit exhaust without cats. It sounds as good as any vehicle ever created IMO lol...
@samueljackson24787 ай бұрын
Don't forget the Callaway Sledgehammer 5.7 Twin Turbo V8 Top Speed 255 Mph .
@jorgedacosta89576 ай бұрын
I heard it wasn't a stock 350 instead it was a 383, this is what I heard?
@samueljackson24786 ай бұрын
@@jorgedacosta8957 To be honest yes 383, but on paper 350 SB
@lee161a7 ай бұрын
Pontiac also had an IRS project for the firebird, in the firefox II, around the same time
@carrsllccarrillo65077 ай бұрын
Got the article on that in High Performance Pontiac 1988. The test mule was on a black GTA TA.
@liquidleopard44957 ай бұрын
And their project was using coil springs, unlike the Corvette.
@samueljackson24787 ай бұрын
Don't forget the last Firehawk ever made in 2009. The Pontiac G8 Firehawk 4 door sedan.
@WS4WS6W727 ай бұрын
I remember the president of the Illinois Pontiac Chapter bought one...500 hp I believe.
@carrsllccarrillo65077 ай бұрын
This day I think that G8 should of used a different name then "Firehawk" for their top tier performance model. Funny thing is you could of only get the G8 firehawk in automatic! I mean really? Because the G8 GXP was available in stick!
@dmo8487 ай бұрын
Almost bought it also but I didn't cause I just got laid off at the time
@Bluecedor6 ай бұрын
How have I never heard of this car?
@samueljackson24786 ай бұрын
@@WS4WS6W72 500HP / 489 TQ
@TylerGamer7657 ай бұрын
this is my ultimate GM performance car beside the grand national....this is on my bucket list of cars....i saw one of these this weekend at the obx rod & custom festival
@csj96197 ай бұрын
My brother had a '94 Formula Firebird and that car was super fun, but I prefer the body style featured in this video as far as looks go. 275HP LT1, same as a Z-28 Camaro.
@toddprater147 ай бұрын
The third gens look way better than the 4th gens..they look like a jellybean…now the 98-02 ws6 transam is definitely the better looking of the 2 , 4th gens..being gen x I have a soft spot for the 89-92 irocs and trans ams and formula firebirds ..
@murderbirdLTX7 ай бұрын
@@toddprater14what ?
@gringoespana7 ай бұрын
Loved this car back in the day. Y'all do videos on imports? I had a 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR4 once upon a time. Rare car, awd, all wheel steering and turbo charged 4 door. Freaking loved it
@robertf95217 ай бұрын
SLP continued into the 5th gen camero and may have been why GM brought back the supercharged ZL1!
@shable14366 ай бұрын
I was lucky enough to get to drive one regularly, my dad got one in early 90s, and i used to fly around the back roads, loosing cops all the time, it had extreme power, and handling on rails.
@failingup49073 ай бұрын
Losing cops all the time , no you didn't 😂
@carlos640307 ай бұрын
Pro tip: When you're making a video about a particular vehicle, don't show video clips and photos of a different car because you'll confuse the hell out of a lot of people that don't know any better. For example, you showed a '91 - '92 t-top Trans Am with Firehawk wheels and the Firehawk door decal numerous times. That was a clone or a tribute car because SLP never made a 3rd gen Firehawk with the Trans Am as the base, and all Firehawks were hardtops.
@jukeboxzero17 ай бұрын
Yep. There's another video out there claiming the '82 Firebird was one of the 10 worst muscle cars of all time. But the picture for the video shows either a '91 or '92 Firebird which was a much better car.
@kaefergarage6 ай бұрын
Sure I'd like to see a video for the 4th gen of the Firebird! It'll make this complete :) I knew about the Firehawk and I enjoyed to see your video. Good quality of the provided information!
@richki.247 ай бұрын
I worked with a guy that had one back in 1994/1995 ... I always asked him if he wanted to sell, he always said no ...
@JB-rl7hh7 ай бұрын
Could you please do a video on The Mecham Macho Trans Am? Thanks
@frankartale10267 ай бұрын
Pontiac was the best division. I had an 88 Formula 305 tpi 5spd with stock 3.45 borg warner rear and stock optional dual converter exhaust. It ran 14.3 @ 94 at the track with no mods!! with a 305 !! these cars had more power than advertised. My Formula was faster than my 5.7 89 GTA was... but not by much
@carrsllccarrillo65077 ай бұрын
Nice! Interesting enough I once drag stripped my 89 GTA 350 and my best time was a 14.2 at 94mph. The only mods I had done was rear LCAs and KYBs adjustable shocks. Other then that it was all stock. I actually dragged a guy who had a formula 305 w/stick and I was barely able to beat him at the line. So yes I agree both were pretty close in performance. Mind you a GTA is a bit heavier with the ground F/X and the heavier lumbar seats. So that extra 25 extra ponies helped a bit. I wish I had a hardtop formula 350 with minimal options and the WS6 suspension because that would be the super light car and I believe they would be the best strip performing cars when done right.
@jukeboxzero14 ай бұрын
@@carrsllccarrillo6507 Base TransAm with RPO L98 weighed 194 lbs. less than a GTA.
@carrsllccarrillo65074 ай бұрын
@@jukeboxzero1 I'm sure that's contributed to the standard front seats and not the heavier lumbar ones that the GTAs have. Plus if it's base TA then it also has to be a hardtop. My GTA was equipped with the factory CC1 ttops and having this also adds weight especially with the attach components that is needed to hold them down.
@jukeboxzero14 ай бұрын
@@carrsllccarrillo6507 Yes - my TA is a hardtop with all the performance options. My '84 TA had T-Tops which were great for cruising around southern California. Blew my chance to buy a new hardtop '89 TTA back in the day!!!
@carlmcgarry18237 ай бұрын
My 97 trans am is outa sight. . Heads, brakes, Tremec 6 sp, and much more. Its still my summer only driver. 50 k miles. I love it.... Cannot give it up. Its like new, and get looks on cruise night. CM I loved the firehawk when it camre out, but didnt have the bread to buy one. Beautiful car. My choice.
@dasfahrer81877 ай бұрын
I had forgotten about this car. It was so cool when I first saw one on the street back in the day.
@Apexmissed7 ай бұрын
Awesome vid!
@brgable7 ай бұрын
I bought a 95 Firehawk in 99 it had 3k miles on it. Love that car they are a blast to drive. Still own it with 32k miles on it.
@TheWolfMatt7 ай бұрын
The Firehawk and later Camaro SS SLP were a favorite of mine growing up. I had learned about the SLP Firehawk through the dealer that I would occasionally get parts from to build my 78 Firebird Formula only to fall in love with one sitting in their showroom floor. What a beastly car to say the very least about it. Wish I was able to afford one back in the day as I'd imagine they'd probably go for about 100k if they were taken care of and low miles. Please post a 4th gen version to commemorate these. Nicely done video bud, brought me back down memory lane.
@johnscustomsaws7 ай бұрын
SLP Firehawk was definitely a nice ride... But my V-6 mustang would eat it for lunch... And before you laugh... I have blue plug-wires and a K&N air filter sticker 😳
@johnhobson88862 ай бұрын
That sticker alone is worth 25 to 30 HP, depending where you stick it...
@blazinsaddlez51347 ай бұрын
Thanks for teaching me about the generations. My favorite dream cars or definitely mid to late 80s firebird and z28s so I'd really like to learn more if possible.
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! They are classics and finally starting to get the recognition they deserve!
@brianholland29167 ай бұрын
Awwwww the good old days!!!
@William-Bill-Munny7 ай бұрын
I began working for Brembo NA around the time this car and the Mustang Cobra R came out with Brembo factory brakes. It was a great time to be part of the building factory specials groundswell. The SLP was a hidden gem favorite of mine, yet many still have no idea it even existed.
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
That is awesome that you were behind the scenes working on some of those projects - the Cobra R is such an awesome car. The early 2000s were those last years of really analog feeling cars still but with some refinements
@eriklarson91377 ай бұрын
3500 pounds. 300 crank HP? Batten the hatches boys!
@liquidleopard44957 ай бұрын
Did you actually watch the video? 3400 lbs and 350+ SLP said you were getting *at least* 350hp. They never said you were *only* getting 350hp. Tire technology at the time couldn't deal with it very well. Firehawks in the IMSA Showroom Stock series were said to spin the tires on straightaways.
@mdf76977 ай бұрын
Would love to see a complete firehawk/slp vid. Can you look into something I've heard thrown around in the gm community "factory freaks" from mid 90's-early 00's. Don't really know if it's true or lore but a few fbody platform cars and trucks produced way more power than what it was rated...kinda like in the late 60's.
@mikeks81817 ай бұрын
Firehawk!!!!
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
I would have to agree
@kandr44393 ай бұрын
Great episode. I own #002 of #201 in the 1993, along w/ #562 of 600ish in 1995, and #79 of the #136 2001 10th Anniversary Firehawks built. I grew up drooling over these! Would love the opportunity to acquire a 1992 (1 of 25) or ever 1 of the 7 1991 models... The last of the Gen 3 Formulas covered to Firehawks are legit!!!
@Funtimes6707 ай бұрын
SLP!
@CousinSteve7 ай бұрын
I had a 2002 WS6 and it was the best car I've ever driven. Obviously not the fastest but just the most badass
@jasonrichter4977 ай бұрын
I bought mine in 1994 at a serious discount because I sold cars for Buick down the road from the Pontiac dealership. It was a seriously powerful car after a few upgrades, it was near unbeatable in street races around Cleveland. You would never get a discount like I got for the Corvette.
@523maine7 ай бұрын
Yes, please do a video on SLP 4th generation Firehawk and maybe Camaro also!
@johnmarshjr9283 ай бұрын
Visceral raw, reminds me of my 14 1SS-1LE poly bushing’d out. Crazy clutch engagement = good times.
@rarecars33363 ай бұрын
The 1LEs are super mean
@buckodonnghaile43097 ай бұрын
I remember hearing a little about them as a teenager back then, but drove an 87 Grand Am because it was close to free. Great video, learned a ton.
@markmitchell7587 ай бұрын
4th Gen firehawk video please and thank you and your welcome.
@venivelovici7 ай бұрын
Another great video! I recall that Car & Driver feature of the 3rd Gen. Never knew so few were built. That green Firehawk - it’s a ragtop. Does anyone know if that was an after-aftermarket job? Or did SLP have a ‘vert option? Lastly, yes, please do a Gen 4 Firehawk vid!
@scottosborne30427 ай бұрын
The Firehawk was a Fantastic Ride!! Came with a roll cage in it ..remember the Dealership in the town in my high school yes had 1 in the showroom in 92 or 93? It was a dream car
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
Wow one of the very few that exists was in your town - how cool is that?!
@fgeiger417 ай бұрын
3rd gen was my face until the last iteration where they tried to Incorporate the concept Banshee's looks. It should've been all anshee or nothing v
@chriskrueger82257 ай бұрын
I had an 89 GTA with the 5.7TPI and T-Tops. I got rid of it about 10 years ago. I miss that car so much!
@Jdub65807 ай бұрын
I'm not capable of scrolling past a keyword that reads Firehawk.
@StoneyBrownTV7 ай бұрын
I've always loved the Firebird. My mother had one when I was a young child and I've always had a fondness for this car.
@4yules7 ай бұрын
firehawk cars are definitly worthy cars...they made a g8 gxp firehawk too
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
The G8 is such an underrated car
@Gee_Jay7 ай бұрын
Just 25 third gens ever made ? - Shame ! - Please do the 4th gen too - I LOVE those 90s Firebird LOOKS!
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
Will do! Thanks for watching!
@derekhoward59957 ай бұрын
Yes my step grandpa had a 25 th anniversary ta love to her about the 4 gen ta firebird
@erdill3555 ай бұрын
I remember that on TNN there was at show that specifically was called firehawk. Man, I loved all the gm sports cars of the 80s/90s. I still have a magazine that was from SLP with the 92 Firehawk.
@Paul_D_Lashley7 ай бұрын
I had an 88 formula firebird. Those cars were beautiful but you couldn’t drive over a bump without the dash jumping, squeaking and everything rattling. The nose was always too long on them also like the front wheels needed to move a foot forward or something.
@kellyhahn61457 ай бұрын
My boss (owner of the company) ordered 1992 Firehawk #11, waited months to get it, then traded it in about 7 years later with about 300 miles on it, without telling me. I wanted that car.
@komradkolonel7 ай бұрын
There was also the 1982 Trans Am that would have had the 301 turbo V-8 that was used in the 1980-81 Trams Am Turbo. Now that engine's numbers weren't anything like the big blocks put out a decade earlier but it had enough torque to make that Trans Am both quicker and faster than the 1982 Corvette. Supposedly the Chevy brass had not only a cow but a whole barnyard when they learned what Pontiac had in mind. You could say they basically bulled the GM executives to make Pontiac use the underpowered 305 instead.
@ValkyriesMoon7 ай бұрын
The 301 turbo made like 210hp and alot of torque which wasnt bad for the time.
@mikee29237 ай бұрын
Yes. 210 HP in an early 3rd Gen would’ve been awesome. Plus it would’ve made swapping in a Pontiac 400 or 455 a simple bolt in affair like swapping out a 305 for a 350. This was supposed to be the plan as evidenced by driver’s side bulge in the hood of all 3rd Gen T/As and Formulas similar to the 80-81 Turbo T/A. Even though the 301 turbo wasn’t very exciting in the late 2nd Gen, the 3rd Gen was about 500lbs lighter. Imagine what it would’ve been making when GM finally sorted out EFI. But of course Chevy probably cried because the Corvette was only making about the same with 350CI. They knew what Pontiac was capable of. It took Chevy until 1985 to make 235 HP with the TPI. But instead the T/A was neutered with the Chevy 305. They kept the bulge for ascetics.
@goobiesgarage14172 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. You used a lot of footage of a red 3rd gen with Trans Am / GTA ground effects, but the Firehawk never came with these except for a single car out of the 25, which was also a convertible. There was never a Firehawk that looked like the one you showed. You also could have touched more on the T Ram intake and how the plant where they were made burned to the ground and that contributes as to why they are so rare now.
@mikeeaton98227 ай бұрын
Gen 4 Firehawk vid please
@digitalmagicAR7 ай бұрын
I certainly remember those. Amazing cars, great looking, factory orderable and with a warranty. The dealer brochure actually mentioned SLP but didn't show the Firehawk. The 4th gen cars were more affordable since they needed less modifications. The SLP Firehawks were fantastic until the end.
@jamesstaggs41607 ай бұрын
I always liked Pontiac more than Chevy. Shame they killed it
@ZZ48UUP7 ай бұрын
I dropped a ZZ4 into an 87 Z28 with a 5 speed that was originally equipped with an LG4. It walked away from everything. I mean EVERYTHING! I had an MSD 6AL to stop it from overrevving because the ZZ4 just never stopped pulling. And when I went in for emissions, it passed in 15 seconds. I remember the reps at the state shaking their head wondering how it passed so fast because the engine LOOKED stock and the original drivetrain wouldn't pass that easily. ZZ4 was incredible. And then the LS1 became a dime a dozen
@kfh17 ай бұрын
4th Gen Firehawk video please!!!
@ralphthompson9470Ай бұрын
I used to work at a gas station in New Jersey, a couple miles up the road from SLP, back in 1989. I used to see the prototype firehawk with a Michigan manufacturer plate on it,once or twice a week when it would come in for gas. Being a gearhead myself, i got into a conversation with the guy driving the car. When he pulled back out onto the highway, he got on it. You could tell it was way faster than stock.
@mc247257 ай бұрын
yes to a video on 4th gen firehawk
@gags7307 ай бұрын
I had an 1987 TransAm .... 'Fuel Injection' was badged on the door handle. Funny thinking about that now. It was a 5 Speed 305 bored 30 over, changed the rear, remapped chip, custom exhaust, deleted cat... and yeahhhh, it was still slow by today's standards. I still miss that car as it was fun to drive. A lead sled but I had a lot of fun with that car when I was young. It was a nightmare if you ever got stuck in traffic because the clutch was so heavy. If you owned one of these cars the biggest pain in the ass was constantly changing the trunk/ back glass gas struts and the trunk latch motor. I lost count how many of them I put in.
@rarecars33367 ай бұрын
I also heard the fuel pump on the third gens is a nightmare to do
@MatyHam867 ай бұрын
Whose last name is Hamberger?? Oh right mine too
@LIsForLexi.6 ай бұрын
Mines Reigelsperger... german?
@theaccountant465Ай бұрын
I remember first time I ever saw a fire hawk and went for a ride I was in love. It was a wrap it was way more fun and better than any vette I’ve ever been in
@stevebecwar92867 ай бұрын
4th gen video
@barclaybenjamin63223 ай бұрын
I love this! Thank you for sharing this with all of us!
@jazzandbluesculturalherita25477 ай бұрын
1993 4th Gen SLP Firehawk, please!
@retrobear93677 ай бұрын
This body style with the ground effects and the lt1 ws6 are my fav body styles of the Firebird. I had a 97 ws6
@VintageWheelsTV-367 ай бұрын
I work for SLP in the early 2000's. We were doing the Firehawks and the Camaro SS. I worked on the hoods and spoilers for both as well as building the exhaust systems. I was there until GM closed the plant in Quebec.
@TexasHill7 ай бұрын
Yes, please do a report on the 4th gen Firehawk vehicles . I have a 1999 Firehawk Firebird , and would love see your report on it. Thank you.
@Bayan190516 күн бұрын
Back in 1995 I worked for a Pontiac/Buick dealership and we got one in for that year. It had the manual transmission and was in a shade of purple, whatever color they called it. The car was an absolute beast. It lasted less than a month before it was sold.
@Lynchfan886 ай бұрын
A close family friend got himself an '89 GTA Trans Am in white w/the tan/gold cloth interior. We took it to an aftermarket place here in our town (Cleveland, Oh..the place was Roman Chariot) and had them cut in a T-top. Granted, it wasn't a '91 Firehawk but it was still beautiful. And yes, I have heard of the Firehawk and knew all about it in '91.
@andrewpipitone15724 ай бұрын
I am 62 and love the early 70 to 73 firebirds. Fir this generation i liked the camaro z28 however listing to this vidoe give me a new perspective on these cars.
@rarecars33364 ай бұрын
Glad you got something out of it - the early 70s firebirds are some of the most beautiful cars ever made but the 3rd gens for some reason have a place in my heart
@John-np2bf6 ай бұрын
GM did it again in 2000 when I walked into one of my local Chevy dealerships and on the sales floor was a corvette red SLP Camaro SS. It had an all aluminum 5.7 liter LS2 rated at 320 horsepower as the stock SS. It was underrated and actually put out a bit more. The SLP Package added about 30 more HP. It also came with a lot of the same upgrades as previous partnerships such as pistons, Upgraded torque diff, crankshaft, larger intake, power steering cooler, Suspension upgrades, Brembo shocks/struts. Larger disk brakes front and rear. 17 inch aluminum wheels with Goodyear Z-rated performance tires on all the way around. 3 inch exhaust with dual tips. They actually lined up the stock SS and the SLP so I could listen to them both and the SLP was much more aggressive. The interior was nice and since the car was a six-speed it had a Hurst leather wrapped and embossed with an "H" short throw shifter. They kind of tried to screw me a little on the deal and I almost walked. They asked me what else would I like done to the car to make the sale, make it right. I told them I wanted Leather seats and leather trim work on the door panels. And I wanted the SS logo embroidered in matching Red on the head rest. They sent it up the street to a custom shop and 2 days later it had a fully custom interior with nice thick leather. Not that garbage that comes from the factories. Back in 2000 The stock SS was beating Cobras and 350z's. My car with the SLP package was spanking S2000's and c4 corvettes. I enjoyed that car very much. It's only because I was starting a family and having a child that I got rid of the car. The Back seats of Camaros have always been terrible to sit in. lol You felt like you we so low and the actual seat was nothing. Thanks for making this. It took me back to 17 when I had an 84 Z28 as my first car.
@stevenbelue54967 ай бұрын
The zf s6-40 is a beastly huge trans, i picked up one to put in my 3rd gen and SLP pulled a rabbit out of the hat making it work in a 3rd gen.
@chadwondra6856 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you. A '93 firehawk video would be awesome!!
@Flub_Kub6 ай бұрын
It was nice to see pontiac outperform itself. This firehawk had similar specs to the trans-am in 1998-2002. Amazing!
@jameskazd9951Ай бұрын
I absolutely love 80's/ 3rd gen firebird/trans ams, i think they are one of the best looking cars ever and i would love to own even one of the less powerful ones some day
@ar20437 ай бұрын
Absolutely love this channel and its content!!!
@johnelliott73757 ай бұрын
The 3rd gen eventually got my acceptance aftymy one friend who had gotten one new in 1992 and beat it every way but Sunday it was good looking, reliable, and just a great cruisers that if you did the maintenance. Great evening, great job and thanks for sharing this anomaly with me and my family/friends!