The Rayman Trilogy Analysis | Good Games - Terrible Franchise

[@KeeBlade]

The biggest weakness of Rayman is that it's tonal undecidedness allowed the Rabbids to subsume him into a far larger franchise for tiny babies, what is pretty much the Minions of gaming.

[@averagefez]

Well technically the Rabbids debuted 4 years before the Minions but yeah the point still stands

[@aguyontheinternet1532]

The one thing I'll always appreciate about Rayman is the unique creativity the games have, there really isn't another platformer franchise like it

[@lynchstan9745]

“Inspire hardness in the player” 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@ivopranjic9976]

One of my finest/proudest subscriptions. You always make the best videos good sir. OG Rayman was wild

[@realkingofantarctica]

Rayman 3 is like a rich guy who owes you money.

[@onthedre]

I don't get it, how does the Rayman franchise owe me money?

[@vxcvxmcrposfdsdfulpdfg]

Homeboy did not watch the video ​@@onthedre

[@CJojo_13_]

Not first. Anyone reading this should check out Rayman Redemption (a fan remake of Rayman 1).

[@cobaltisnotreal7581]

Redemption is extremely good

[@MrMister681]

Would be interesting to see an Origins/Legends video. It's interesting to see how they tried to combine all three aesthetic aspects of these games while also giving different names to the characters and elements of this world but trying to convince us it's the same from these older games (Bubble Dreamer being Polokus from Rayman 2), and how those games have acquired this almost legendary status as 2D Platformer Greats.

[@Kriss_ch.]

I think Rayman Origins is awesome, and Legends isn't far behind besides some specific annoyances to me at least, but I guess there's gotta be another decade before the nostalgia wave hits on those and people start making hour long videos on them. I definitely don't get the idea they care about the setting more than the earlier games did either, lol.

[@hugh5530]

Yeah I was hoping those games would be included too. For me they’re among the best 2D platformers ever made in terms of gameplay, but I don’t really like the aesthetics and music.

[@ctpp64]

@@Kriss_ch. i've only played Legends, but yeah i didn't get the feeling there was much of an attempt at creating an interesting world or story either lol

[@normietwiceremoved]

Rayman 2 is one of my favourite games of all time, all for one reason, it's atmosphere.

[@jerm5466]

Damn I occasionally search KZbin for Rayman 2 retrospectives and have always come up with very little, now one of my favorites drops this 😮

[@jamesmeikle7216]

Playing Rayman 3 as a kid, I remember it taking me hours to psyche myself up to play each bit of the Knaaren level. Absolutely terrifying. I remember sitting in that pit where you have to use a rocket to hit a gong, scared witless and all I could hear was stuff like "pull out his nails" and "spit in his eyes" accompanied by the occasional roar. It's stayed as one of my top 5 games of all time though. Love Rayman 3 so much

[@MarleySage]

Absolutely terrifying stuff. I did the exact same thing

[@Deadwolf27]

"I have to go over there to see if I'm there." Was actually reallly funny.

[@amazin7006]

Also "I have to go break something." and "Thanks big nose!" when you save the Sylkins.

[@DeepWeeb]

That first Rayman game actually can't hide the fact it's a platformer made in Europe: massive and detailed graphics with brutal, labyrinthic level design packed in a generally whimsical-nonsense aesthetic, it's the type of stuff you used to see on the Amiga all the time (and the unfortunate console ports that got released as well)

[@Kriss_ch.]

If we're comparing platforming devs, I definitely feel Rayman is closer to Rare's work than guys like Naughty Dog or Insomniac, probably just thanks to Europe lol. Donkey kong Country, Donkey Kong 64, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Banjo-Kazooie, _Kameo_ or whatever. They spread it over more franchises but I think they went through a lot of the same stuff as Rayman, and they definitely had the same sorta super heavy texture work aesthetic going on in the 64 era. Rayman 3 is in a league of its own though, I haven't seen anyone else do that look that well.

[@HyperlordB]

I'm always a bit annoyed when people talk about Rayman 2: The Great Escape, but never mention it's "upgrade" Rayman 2: Revolution for the PS2. Seriously, a lot of the criticisms (especially the one about the overworld, which is completely removed in Revolution irked me). I know you said you played the one on the N64 so the criticism is valid for that version, but I just really love Revolution for the PS2 and hope you'll give it a shot.

[@domarealhumanbeing]

I was scavenging for games with my bro last year and happened upon my original copy of Rayman 2 that I’d sold like 17 years ago. Bought it because I’d always wanted to beat it and… it sure was a game. So I put on Rayman 3 after beating 2 and ended up playing through the whole thing in one sitting. Rayman 3 has been one of my all time favorites since I was a kid. Wish more people knew about it.

[@misterzygarde6431]

I’ll just say that those who want to play Rayman 1 should just play the unofficial Rayman Redemption because it actually has fair difficulty compared to the original. I will say that I think it’d be cool if the Rabbids returned as enemy turned buddies to Rayman similar to King Dedede from Kirby. Like imagine the Rabbids in a similar role to Dedede in Kirby’s Adventure where they’re trying to stop the true villain.

[@pumpkinhead4426]

HOLY MOLY. I love all your videos, man. But this one is getting me PUMPED to watch later

[@thegoatking6695]

I dont think you understand how happy i am to see this youtuber make a video about rayman, imma eat gooooooooooood

[@pawlogates]

Please look up some rayman 3 combo videos. You will be amazed at how much the scoring system synnergizes with the 3d platforming in this one. I put about 200 hours into scoring and it was an amazing experience. (Annoying to retry combos only start at 700K total score, so i dont recommend going past that) I swear to dog the scoring in this game, past a certain point of mastery feels like bayonettas combat somewhat lol

[@pawlogates]

One example: rolling feels useless right? But in scoring the roll move becomes a very useful tool as you can reach a jevel JUST before the timer runs out, and you wouldnt reach it in time without rolling. Also rolling off a ledge gives you a speed boost. There is so much hidden shit in this game gameplay-wise, and most of it is well hidden in the level design.

[@hobo_brando3999]

IT WAS YOU ON THE BMASK VIDEO WASNT IT

[@grinkobaba9226]

I always enjoy hearing your insight on franchises I don’t normally think too deeply about, you have a real knack for drawing unique conclusions that make a lot of sense

[@jairekambui7738]

Next in the 2000s platform mascot analysis, Ty the Tasmanian tiger.

[@Hamletshandle]

Dude it’s 1:30am, why you doing this to me

[@emptytent]

I'm not a purist (emulation is so much more convenient), but I appreciate that you play retro games on original hardware.

[@marioandluigi89]

i wasn't expecting a rayman video from you, but i welcome it

[@murderman8578]

Also there's rayman 4 prototype project to make the game that Rayman raving rabbids was originally supposed to be

[@charmingmagican9821]

I've lately been watching alot of rayman reviews So this is a treat

[@thedingleberrybush6076]

Rayman 3s dialogue was like chat gpt before there was chat gpt.

[@thankfullydaniel4212]

Literal lifesaver, I can't stand the KZbin slop machine anymore, I need my classic dosage of Brit.

[@lancehildebrand4025]

Something also to consider is how tonal shifts in the absence of the digital age was a very confusing concept, especially from the consumer perspective. Jak and PoP going edgy felt forecasted even if it wasn't necessarily agreed upon. Picking up Rayman 2 I was completely certain there was some comic or tv show I missed that filled in the unexplainable gaps.

[@RockMcLuckle]

Not sure if it gets mentioned later on in the video, but Rayman Revolution (the "enhanced" PS2 port) actually does replace the level select with an actual hub world you move around to get to each of the original's main levels.

[@TheGamingBritShow]

I saw that! But it doesn't really fix any of the problems I mentioned. It's basically just another bunch of portals. I'm basically using "level select" and "hub world" synonymously in this video.

[@rhett8-u1n]

Rayman Legends being my first Rayman game (which I still love as a game) meant a slightly jarring experience when I jumped to Rayman 3 for the first time. Slightly because the silly humor was still there, but I was still surprised that not only did they talk, but they DID have a story to tell.

[@brennanwn]

3:31 - 4:25 This Platformer is impressive

[@WillieCorley]

46:52 "poking fun of that fantasy setting" Makes me wonder if the original Shrek movie had any influence in the direction of Rayman 3. Also, congratulations on 200K subscribers. You have one of the most underrated gaming channels on KZbin.

[@rufftaku275]

Wow i just binged your vids and a new one in a day 😮

[@Cyberguy64]

I dunno, man. When it comes to the comedy, you playing all the Teensie Wizards' non sequiturs back-to-back had me laughing pretty hard. "I have to go look over there to see if I'm over there!" really caught me off guard.

[@averagefez]

wake up threw my coffee on the floor knock knock oh no police at the door

[@STARM-t9b]

I am just excited to see him at all. Even if it’s weird one offs like Mario + Rabbids dlc or that laserhawk show. I think he’s just a pretty neat guy all around and seeing him get to do anything is a delight😌

[@gavi888]

B-Mask isn't gonna be happy about this

[@BMask]

Actually this slaps

[@gavi888]

Funny as hell coincidence though, I'm here for it

[@Senpaipls253]

what a pleasant surprise! especially as a big fan of rayman 1, it's rare to hear much talk about that game other than "its looks pretty" and "it's hard". you skimmed over origins/legends at the end of the video, do you have any plans to talk about these in the future? i always thought they were good games but there has always something slightly off about them. they have a level of quality that makes them feel as though they should be a staple in any discussion of platformers and yet there's something about them that just doesn't stick, like you said they came and went.

[@isaacwinters6954]

If you gave this IP to the creative genius of Tim Schafer over at Double Fine Rayman’s lore, world, and gameplay would hit its stride

[@cosplayingchao]

Rayman is a fascinating franchise that frustrated me a few years back trying to link everything together cohesively. It seems like everytime they make a new game, they are just given key words and concepts, then the rest is on them.

[@onthedre]

Rayman 3 is peak man, honestly a hidden gem especially when you consider how awesome it is.

[@superanxiety261]

RAYYYMAAAAN, dude i hope you do origins, one of my favorite 2d platformers of all time!

[@Kriss_ch.]

It's strange to think of Mario as a "strong character" but I guess he, and many other Nintendo mains, really are in the sense that they always promise a specific tone and attitude. The change from Wario Land 1 to Wario Land 4 is pretty extreme - Never mind Wario Ware. But you can largely expect the same general tone across all of the games, it's not like Wario suddenly starts rapping or gets a goatee or something just 'cause that's in the wind at the time of development. The biggest difference you get is whether the devs want him to be strong, or if they want him to be gross. The largest change-up is usually when the devs switch. Donkey Kong's personality is always the same, but Rare Donkey Kong Country and Retro Studios Donkey Kong Country isn't the same at all. I dunno how the teams on the Rayman titles were set up, but it'd be interesting to look at those credits and see who came along from game to game - I wouldn't be surprised at all if it changed a ton every time.

[@BenOlsberg1995]

I never played the original Rayman on PS1. Knowing how obnoxious its difficulty was is a colossal deterrent for me. The closest I ever got to it was a really middling GBC port of the first game that I became so disenchanted with I just gave it to one of my childhood friends. I did religiously play 2 and 3 though throughout my childhood and I loved them without compromise......but in my most recent run of 3, time has not been at all kind to it. I know it's over 20 years old by this point so in due time, flaws are bound to shine through. But when it gets to the point where it effects how well the game even fuckin functions, that's a major red flag.

[@durodesduvo8424]

Damn I probably would’ve loved Rayman 3 when I was a kid.

[@AnawnMouse]

There's a free fanmade version of Rayman 1 with some rebalancing for some of the most unbalanced screens and modernized features (bonus levels, cosmetic unlockables and achievements. It keeps the soul and feel of the original really well and I would say is the best way to play Rayman now.

[@spiral1407]

Should have played the Dreamcast version of 2. It runs at 60fps and is STILL the best version of the game.

[@devreel9255]

I can confirm that Rayman 3 humour is much better in French, it can still be it or miss but the localization does not really do it justice.

[@bobojr2126]

Someone contact electric underground. Tell him Rayman 3 has online leaderboards😂.

[@bcvetkov8534]

They need to remake 2 and 3.

[@jaystev]

My favourite video game and my favourite KZbinr? consider me sat

[@DionPanday]

Next video: How the Rabbids lost focus

[@pawlogates]

Dude I cant believe it took 20 years until someone finally dedicated more than 20 seconds to by far the best part of rayman 3 (scoring). Everything else gameplay wise is mid in r3 (except movement) but scoring transforms this game from a 6/10 to something which is both insanely unique and by some weird miracle, also very well designed and tested, and... for some reason trying very hard to make people not even try to engage with it :/ Im actually in the middle of trying to expand on this scoring system in my own game, which is sadly pretty much canceled until my long covid disappears but its been 8 months so far so idk might be forever lol (not funny 😭). Please look up some r3 combo vids. I also heavily recommend replaying it for at least 500K total score. It will give you most of the hidden scoring experience. This scoring system legitimately kind of ruined other 3d platformers for me, and I dont mean ""ruined"" like just I kinda wish it was there. It feels like every single 3d platformer has a gaping hole in its gameplay now. If you replay this game for scoring a few times, its undeniably a huge and unique success which never being expanded upon should be considered a crime against gaming lol

[@CalebHenson]

I am surprised you didnt mention the much more forgiving Jaguar port of Rayman. Some consider it to be more balanced, but it has worse music and other differences. EDIT I should really finish a video before opening my big mouth.

[@walrusman86808]

I would love you to do this with ape escape

[@TheForever206]

I've only ever played the OG Rayman on PS1 and on mobile but have never actually finished it. I think I've owned Rayman Legends on PS3, PS4, and like 3 copies on PC, but I've never actually played it. 😅

[@meleeludens]

didn’t SA2 and Sonic Heroes already have the same combo system though? both games give you bonus points for chaining actions like killing enemies, lightspeed dashes, and doing tricks. Especially Heroes, the window for chaining each action is like 2.5 full seconds

[@tobiasarevalo9929]

Im sorry,did you say "rayman origins and legends came and went" really?

[@almendraman]

I felt really uncomfortable when he Ray'd those men all over the place.

[@Jago-pl7op]

Rayman legends was awesome

[@ChaosAngelZero]

If you play the second game on the Dreamcast, all three games run at 60 frames per second. Just saying.

[@bigboss-yv3xu]

Wake up babe new tgbs

[@Kneevirus]

Was never big on rayman 2 always prefered 3 and espically origins and legends

[@tickdracy]

Where's Nitro rad

[@amazin7006]

22:35 lmao you're way too harsh about the humor. These are early 2000s kids games, the jokes like "I need to go flush the toilet" was a part of the charm and what made it so fun for kids

[@maximumpain1318]

Sad to see how dismissive you are of Origins and Legends. They’re two of the best 2D platformers ever made.

[@laren153]

finally

[@rkjtnd]

pagman

[@olriclouencampos7982]

First

[@blueroman460]

TGBS legendary ray man video

[@Spyderist]

First