The Real NeNe Leakes Behind Real Housewives of Atlanta Star | Video Podcast

Listen to my conversation with the real NeNe Leakes. Neither one of us have ever been known to shy away from calling it as we see it. So you can imagine the truths being dropped.
We go back to NeNe’s childhood and explore her life as she found fame. There was a drastic change for NeNe as she felt the pressure to be glam, rich and compete with the other women.
Then we go into detailing the infamous #rhoa closet scene to discuss the ups and downs of what’s REAL, who was wrong and what can still be made right.
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[@sassagrass7095]

Honestly Nene made Atlanta, she was the backbone of the entire franchise.

[@nunyabizzz1135]

Hands down. Kim was a big part too

[@tasibho]

They both left and it was just fine. Infact it was their second coming that the show started dwindling, around season 10.

[@Certified1025]

Right

[@bellachannell777]

Without question! Shame on Andy and Bravo executives for their discriminatory practices against NeNe and the other ladies of color. I hope she's able to receive full compensation along with an apology, followed by reinstatement on RHOA, or her own show.

[@gayleholmes9081]

Absolutely, but she was also responsible for the ratings slipping too. Her last season had fans completely tiring of her antics and her diva mentality. There wasn't one cast member that year, that she didn't attack, disrespect and treat badly. Making Atlanta housewives number one for so many years, could have been her legacy, but instead, NeNe has become the poster child for what NOT TO DO, when you're on top of the world and you let your ego get the best of you!!

[@Digitalgirl.mp3]

Nene get out of your head! The people love you and your star power is unmatched. Give us the vlogs, podcasts, fashion buy reviews, a nice lil closet sale, interviews, if you cook give us that too.. All of it!! The people will support 💕💕

[@melglenn6556]

Yes!! She can do a show like Bethenny and do very well!!

[@Arunfiable]

She needs to work on her grammar a little tho, but yes I’d watch that talk show!

[@deborahanneohara9386]

"NO, WE WONT SUPPORT YOU AND WE DON'T LOVE YOU!!!

[@deborahanneohara9386]

AT HER AGE......"SHE SOUNDS TOO HOOD" !

[@karenl14]

​@@deborahanneohara9386The show Bethenny was on RHONY was one of the drunkest trashiest shows. Entertaining but hood as hell ijs 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@rosetashajnnoel]

This interview was not only authentic ... It was filled with substance, transparency and courage.

[@nunyabizzz1135]

Yeah but Bethany needs to let her guests talk. She interviewed herself. It got cringe,.. the over talking

[@LauraOfTheValley]

Until Bethanny no longer needs to use other relevant blk women and starts dissing them again.

[@sondradee4640]

I hope they're both proud of this podcast and of the women they have become .

[@susansmith493]

"Courage"? Stop it. They didn't go to war ... they sat down and chatted. Jesus.

[@theamadorview2733]

Totally agree! This is the kind of information I like to hear. Not gossip about someone's nose job. This is a great interview. 👍🏻

[@londonpeach6223]

Ne Ne deserves her OWN SHOW! That is what she earned and wants. She is great television. Millions stopped watching RHOA when she left. I definitely did.

[@SELFCAREGROWTHCLUB]

Facts bc I literally forgot about the show after

[@user-ql8ps6xn9g]

She not a sharing person with the spot light

[@Kuraiao]

She didn’t leave, she got fired.

[@user-ql8ps6xn9g]

Her (Nene) and Tamar had the worse attitude they wanted to have the attention all the time on them they a little better because they have come down financially but we they had finance you couldn't tell them nothing, and Nene let that man come right in and take her money Oh let's not forget Quan she another one

[@leslieburgess6985]

Me too. She is TV Gold!!

[@Amminawith2ms]

Justice for Nene forreal. Reality tv has really painted her out to be the villain just because she ALWAYS KEEPS IT REAL!

[@Babysista]

“Keeping it real” is not what got her painted as the villain. It’s the Ego and superior attitude. Nene really is dope minus those two.

[@andydietrich3689]

@@Babysistalol seriously these people are so delusional. She dug her own hole 50x over.

[@Blue-jq9wu]

@@Babysista one just want free treatment, most brown people understand this

[@tamarabee886]

@@Blue-jq9wuNene didn’t think about all that until they cut how many episodes she was in. She should’ve learned from Mariah and Monice

[@JLDReactions]

Nene is the type to yell from the rooftops to keep it real, but when people keep it real with her, she goes into victim mode. She also forgets to mention that she came for Kandi in Season 2 and tried to get Cynthia fired from the show. Nene can't look at herself objectively. She was a nightmare towards the end, and the other cast members know it. She still can't keep Cynthia and Kandi out her mouth.

[@cherylrleigh1912]

I'd always heard that NeNe was responsible for recruiting the original cast of RHOA, but I never knew the details. This was truly enlightening.

[@AdjustedCrown]

She pioneered a lot of things that bravo and many other networks now use!! She created the “Reunion” and get zero created for it she also picked Andy to be the host of it Andy worked in the offices of bravo behind the scene.. not on the scene like he is..NeNe basically made him a Ryan Secrest

[@PursePaperworkandPistol]

​@@AdjustedCrownwow! I had no idea

[@marilynjohnson6298]

@@AdjustedCrownyes she gave away all her ideas for free, is why she thought she was above everyone else until they showed her she was just an employee. Where Nene messed up she sued and ran her mouth to the wrong people about the wrong things. She should have moved in silence. Now she is blackballed. Bethany fix the same but Bethany is white abc her money is long. She will still be able to work. I wish Nene would let it go and continue in the industry where she can cause being back on Bravo is dead.

[@jojomakes]

@@AdjustedCrownWasn’t _OC_ already doing a reunion show before Atlanta?

[@Im.Intelligence]

@@jojomakes𝐧𝐨

[@EverEvolvingMike]

I LOVE BETHANYS STYLE OF INTERVIEWING! She really cuts to the chase and ask detailed questions while pulling detailed answers from her guests. Also if a person gives a vague answer, she doesn’t let it go until she gets a CLEAR answer! Loved NeNe’s transparency as well! Great interview!

[@itsthehumor95]

NeNe gave so many unclear answers

[@kimciszek-kane397]

Agree 👍

[@Krissycarla]

Me too … first time listening and her interviewing style is amazing . Larry King style , keeps you engaged. Great interview!

[@ivettesantana4319]

and she dont make nobody less or bad.

[@jenny_b_]

Perfectly describes why I love her interviews so much. So well said!!👏🏼

[@cherylparks2278]

Thanks Bethany for having Nene on your show. Never seen her so comfortable, real and vulnerable as she is at this moment. Wishing her all the best in her new life.

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for following along! Tell me who you'd want to see me interview next!

[@nanihime]

@@bethennyfrankelPhaedra, Kenya or Marlo?👀

[@skeen8990]

@@bethennyfrankel Absolutely! You were ALWAYS the best! So real true to who you are. And issues with mom. I COMPLETELY get. I’m thinking they affect us because their role is so truly so essential in many ways. Im sure you see raising Brin. How different we as mother’s ourselves are ❤️ We’re normal and will make things right ❤️

[@QueXLcior]

Nene is really such a talented storyteller. I don’t even think she fully realizes it, but her authenticity and delivery is really really good. She also still seems really normal and somewhat level after all the stuff. I’m happy for her, I wish more high level things for her because she’s entertaining.

[@catherineechevarria8972]

She really is!

[@Blue-jq9wu]

💯 They will see what they missed in the near future

[@itsthehumor95]

She can't even formulate and complete her thoughts

[@chelliechelle6602]

Right! I was thinking the same!

[@feliciayoung5517]

THANK you Bethany for telling Nene the truth and for being a true friend. I LOVE the two of you together.

[@k2kfitchannel944]

yes

[@jenniferferrara6315]

I would love to see them two in a RV, damn in a closet together…. Imagine how funny and entertaining, cannot believe any company would turn this down….. absolutely wild!!

[@djwinchell]

The two of you have an amazing chemistry! No joke!

[@izattyu6863]

They truly compliment each other well 😮i did NOT have that on my bingo card for 2023. But I’m here for it.

[@Blue-jq9wu]

@@djwinchell No

[@thecummingsfamily7263]

I hollered when NeNe said," Teresa can go to prison for 10 years and they will wait until she gets back." As an Atlanta native, I love NeNe. Black women are the most unprotected and disrespected group of people in society. That's what makes us resilient and strong.

[@ladyindaroom]

I digress my Dear Lady. Black women not being protected, have made most of us wear the "Strong Black Woman" cape, while Trauma has messed a good amount of us. We had to be resilient and strong from the time our ancestors (females) were raped and beating by the Master. I have totally dropped the Stong Black woman facade I carried around for years.

[@keepinitreal1000]

Unprotected..how so? Disrespect may come from a certain behavior that’s exuded.

[@RepublicTeaRoom]

​@@ladyindaroomblack men beat BW and r worded them ALSO. Your stats prove WHITE MEN aren't your problem...

[@madamcjwalker67]

@thecummimgup...and we also have more college degrees than anyone else. I have guns to protect me.

[@avabankz]

​ stats says BLK women die atleast 4/5 times a day.. more than anything other races of women 😢seems very unprotected

[@Omarv9]

I love that Nene is bringing up the racial disparity because as someone who’s black, as a community that is black that has watched all of these franchises and have noticed the differences in treatment and has noticed Andy’s direct treatment in interviews, on the show …etc with Women of color. Thank you Bethenny + Thank you NeNe. This interview is so important and impactful.

[@jorges1132]

You are 100 percent right! I'm hoping to see NeNe again on television. Great interview. And she looks great!!!

[@bethennyfrankel]

Love that you watched!

[@Thegirlinthewhitevan]

Nene Is the epitome of a Sagittarius woman! I adore her stance, her perspective and you can't help but respect her. She's so unapologetic herself.

[@missourimoons]

As a Sagittarius I agree and she's always been my favorite! She is so beautiful and fun, her energy just radiates. I love when she can be her authentic self.

[@monieallen9817]

Absolutely!! Watching this as a November sag was very empowering! ❤

[@ChristineIdokogi]

She is!!! As a Sag I can understand!! We can only keep it 75 because folks can’t takes us when we are 💯!!

[@Dr.JudeAEMasonMD]

I’m an early December ♐️ I relate on so many levels.

[@thebeautifullibra11]

That part!

[@endl1234]

This is why we love both these ladies. They were too real for the franchise.

[@bethennyfrankel]

❤

[@lindavalchapman4678]

I admire both Nene and Bethany for being authentic and keeping it real on and off the shows that made them house hold names.

[@jacquelinevwarren905]

100% agree

[@bethennyfrankel]

What do you want to see next?

[@anitabateman-joynes1904]

@@bethennyfrankel I want to see Nene find true love and happiness. She deserves to be happy.

[@crowns_and_gardens]

Nene is, has always been, will always be authentically fascinating. I can’t wait to see what she does next. I had no idea Bethany was out here interviewing like this!!

[@bethennyfrankel]

What do you want to see next?

[@Shaywilson34]

As someone who’s husband died from cancer last year, hearing nene talk about the closet scene breaks my heart. I can definitely understand what she was going through that day. They were dead wrong.

[@gayleholmes9081]

My condolences to you, but Nene's behavior that day was uncalled for. Listen, making excuses for Leakes is wrong...she was and still is her own worst enemy.

[@Shaywilson34]

@@gayleholmes9081 lol ok. She asked them to stay out of her closet. They went in anyway. So they were definitely in the wrong. But go off.

[@gayleholmes9081]

@@Shaywilson34 Agreed, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of why she was let go.....listen, nobody and I mean nobody is out here trying to defend NeNe and how bad they were treated by her....that in itself speaks volume. Those that want her back, need ratings and a paycheck

[@diamonddarby6268]

nah her behavior was called for for how she felt. Don't disrespect people and expect them to have a controlled response you sound like a karen@@gayleholmes9081

[@Shaywilson34]

@@gayleholmes9081 well my comment was about that day, that incident. As someone who went through what she went through, and also lost her husband. I will “defend” her actions that day. There have been plenty of days where the tiniest thing would set me off when I was watching my husband fight cancer. So again, in THIS incident, they were in the wrong not her. Especially when she told what was going on and they still made her film.

[@HayleySulfridge]

I met Nene at a Meet & Greet in Nashville and she was SO sweet, we actually ended up ending the conversation and walking away because we felt bad for the line behind us. She genuinely wanted to know everyone who came to see her ❤

[@QueenBluntdanae]

Dope ‼️

[@itsthehumor95]

Did you pay for the meet & greet? Lol

[@HayleySulfridge]

@@itsthehumor95 no i saw her show and she decided to stay after to meet anyone who wanted to meet her, most people charge extra for that and she actually didn’t lol

[@aboutfacetheatreblog]

Wow. "Not everybody wants you to be at 100." That's so true. "You have to keep it about 75." Great interview!

[@Noise_floorxx]

Facts!

[@bethennyfrankel]

Love that you watched ❤

[@ideedeevg]

The two girls that carried the show for years on their shoulders. ❤

[@bethennyfrankel]

❤❤❤

[@jgator6694]

I have a whole new level of respect for Nene after hearing this podcast. She is well spoken, soft spoken, honest and eloquent. I hope she finds what she deserves. Much respect.

[@randyholloway920]

What podcast did you just watch?

[@evaaat2650]

@@randyholloway920 Nene Leakes on Bethenny’s podcast.

[@Wiseguy429]

Yeah what podcast are you watching Leopards don’t change their spots

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for watching!

[@awordindueseason]

Every time Bethenny does a housewives interview, I end up shocked by how much I come away with such admiration, respect, empathy and grace for women who eventually became some of my least favorite HWs in the franchise. Bethenny has a way of allowing them to reveal the true side of themselves that we could not enjoy during their housewife tenure. I now realize that much of their toxic behaviors were induced by the toxic environment Bravo created. I actually feel ashamed for judging both Jill and Nene as harshly as I eventually did. I swear, Bethenny is the HW whisperer. I just pray that she never gets an epiphany to interview Erica Gerardi, Lisa Rinna, Kelly Bensimon , or Teresa Guidice because I'm fully invested in always disliking them, lol.

[@codreaming9304]

Can you imagine her interviewing Kelly? OMG 😂!

[@shoneek]

FACTS!!!! Especially Rinna. I actually see Brandi Granville as a hopelessly injured woman with a good heart. I know… I’m nuts.

[@wendyeskelin8765]

The Housewives would be much better if they didn't always have to dial up the drama.

[@sjcc2263]

She will never interview Kelly 😂😂😂

[@angeniquehopkins5246]

It's crazy how we hav the same "dislike" list!!!😂💯

[@sagelovescoffee]

Nene needs a better agent and team to represent her. She needs to find a really intelligent agent that can speak for her so she can just do what she loves, which is be an actress. I’m rooting for her! 😊

[@tatianagranger2427]

And a PR team to protect her. The only problem is most of them are vultures, so they would use her too. She needs to have Bethany be her manager. She’s amazing!!!!

[@alphacentauri6360]

Hell no

[@blakeyr6003]

She doesn’t need someone really smart to come save her- this proved further that she is smart enough

[@blakeyr6003]

But I get your sentiment

[@autumnwaters574]

Nene & Bethenny have been my all time favs, I’ve loved & totally respected the no bs attitudes !! The shows have gone downhill without them!

[@user-ql8ps6xn9g]

They were both a little too selfish

[@jacquelinevwarren905]

To be honest it has not went down hill let us keep it real now BUT they are both missed on the show but they are still success and with us thanks be to God

[@Fratiani]

Bethenny! Oh my GOD!!! This interview with Ne Ne was AMAZING! Keep speaking the TRUTH!

[@LD-tn6ff]

The only way we would be getting a truth is if both sides of the argument were involved in this conversation. Let's keep it real, there is a bit of a disgruntled worker bias going on right now, that's not really proportionately representative of the now over 150 housewives (not including additional bravo talent) - most of whom are no longer even associated with the network, and would be able to talk without repercussion. Second, the income these women generated in a couple short years is equivalent to SEVERAL LIFETIMES of working class income - the bulk of the population who face far more problematic working conditions and experience a far lower quality of life/health as a result. The real reason these women like Nene stuck around for so long is because this gig is better than literally any other in today's job market comparatively. Come on people - this is not where worker reform needs prioritization right now!

[@josiecotrona583]

@@LD-tn6ffBethany I have to agree this was an amazing interview, well done ladies 👏👏👏😍😍😍

[@whi1870]

She’s a great interviewer. Carlos King over talks his guest a lot and ask too many loaded questions

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for following along! Tell me who you'd want to see me interview next!

[@josiecotrona583]

@@bethennyfrankel would love to see you interview Kelly Dodd & Rick as they are not afraid to say what’s on their mind,unlike most other housewives who have their heads so far up Andy’s butt, they would NEVER say what they REALLY feel in an interview, they will just LIE just to be & stay in his good graces, except for Kelly & you Bethany of course & that’s why i love you both!👏👏😍😍

[@50shadesofShay.]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 This was fantastic. As a Black woman who has worked behind the scenes in this industry listening to Nene, I know EXACTLY jow she feels and what's going on. I've never cried so hard watching a podcast. Nene you are remarkable. Its sad that the other sistas on the show didnt do the right thing and stand by you. Had they of done that you wouldnt be in this position either. When it comes to our community strength in numbers do the most work. Nene is obviously been Blacklisted due to her attempts to recieve equal pay and equal treatment. Tale as old as time. Bethenney who has also been my favorite housewife kudos to her for being a true ally. Black women need more Bethenneys in this world. B you did the damn thing. Absolutely phenomenal. Why not start your own B strong network. Id pay double of what I pay for peacock streaming. Anyhow! I hope this is a catalyst for Nene to move forward with her own brand because we 1000000000% have her back.

[@Poeticfloetic]

🤗🤗

[@damien1781]

Agreed as a mixed black man formerly in the industry, I can attest to exactly what she is saying. I don’t feel it’s the same anymore but we had to change what our younger counterparts get now. It’s nothing like we had to suffer anymore but we did it , with stride and pride. It may exist still but not how it was coming up in the 2013’s !

[@nicolemonrue]

Get new careers or new jobs...or start your own...its time to stop complaining and being victims. It's YOUR life. Change it

[@rashedadene638]

Completely agreed!!

[@1deonlucas9]

Wow lol. RHOA is one of the problems for the community you speak of. That's a show for pure bafoonery and entertainment having modern liberal Black women act a fool. There is absolutely nothing strengthening about that.

[@JG-sd9zd]

Bethany was born to interview people and get all the right questions and Nene is so interesting to listen to. ❤

[@bethennyfrankel]

❤❤❤

[@sandrawithoutborders5631]

I wasn’t show how this would go since Bethany & Nene are both tough women. This was a very enlightening interview/conversation. Great job ladies. I love the advice Bethany gave Nene to do her own thing and let the audience be the judge.❤️❤️

[@beulah1999]

Nene should start a podcast recapping all the housewives shows... People would live for that!

[@Poeticfloetic]

What a great idea 👌🏾💭💭👑🔥

[@pattyterracotta]

Yeah the chronicles: broken housewife

[@krystallionaire8184]

Nene will forever be my favorite. She brought the housewives on the map for me, she’s why I started watching the franchise. No one can ever take her place and I’m soooo happy to see her winning ❤

[@SheronFord-wt3hq]

I agree with you she mind to

[@robynbradshaw2870]

This has been my favorite Bethenny interview by far! So proud of NeNe and Bethenny for speaking out!

[@bethennyfrankel]

Awww, YAY!

[@FelipeGarcia-xb3by]

She brightens up every time she talks about Greg…that’s true love

[@shoneek]

When SHE SAID "Teresa can GO TO PRISON and stay for ten years..." 1:55:20🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nene will ALWAYS be great! Bethenny, thanks for having her on!

[@SeeItsReggieT]

That gave me a chuckle, too. 😄

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for watching!

[@shoneek]

@@bethennyfrankel OMG holy crap Bethenny replied TO ME!!!!! Man, I want to meet a boss like you one day!

[@vickypatout5361]

I love Nene describing her life journey ❤️ Then her description of meeting Kim 😂 hilarious! Kim chewing her gum with her cigarette was perfect 😄 Kim reminds me of a 1960s or 70s housewife, what a throwback! So great❤so authentic, great interview! Just like 2 girlfriends talking about life & we get all the answers to questions we had back in the day 👏👏👏

[@australiafountain1686]

I feel like she still danced around, just like she does in all her interviews, just like she started doing during the reunions!

[@laura9965]

The only reason Nene got fired was mainly because of her ego, Yeah i agree there might be some wrong doing she faced but majorly the ego was her downfall

[@aarons5689]

I always loved Nene. There’s something about her that I just adore. Funny, real, outspoken, and looking good (as usual).

[@jesuisvanessawilkerson7011]

I loved this interview...Even more than Carlos King's (& I loved that 1). The fact that they got past the MEAT of it all & showed us the BONE...2 grown women despite the cultural background or differences coming together to discuss the commonality of what they experienced. & I ABSOLUTELY LOVED how Bethany showed up for NeNe like a big sister & said YOU GOT THIS GIRL... DO IT YOURSELF. ❤

[@user-ql8ps6xn9g]

The Carlos King one really sucked

[@avahenderson6322]

Absolutely agree! Bethany did what Bethany does- cut to the chase. So you’re suing them? Nene, it’s considered a complaint. Come on BONE! 🦴 tell us what really happened. Glad NeNe can tell her truth now and stand on it especially after being blacklisted. Yes get your own podcast and stop appearing on others- ask for help Ne! Too many people around you are successful at it! You can be too 🎉

[@whatelsewouldyoudo]

Nothing beats AUTHENTICITY. THANK YOU BETHENNY. THIS WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH A LOT OF JUICY TIDBITS.

[@Rated_Fenty]

Really JUICY!!!! Bethenny was really spilling about how they run the machine and when nene peddling around about Andy talking about the women behind their backs. Also nene said production tried to tell her “she wasn’t happy” but she then told Bethenny she was complaining every season… which one is it nene? cause it sounds like you were unhappy

[@Blue-jq9wu]

Ne Ne we hear Exactly what’s being said , it’s still going on , for Centuries!!! What’s in the dark will come to the light!!! God said last will be first and first will be last The last will be first, and the first last” (Matthew 20:16). And Ne Ne also use work so hard promoting the RHOA , she was the show , because they didn’t know how to go get the brown girls to help make the show , and keep the rating up .. Did anyone get use? I just wondering?

[@SeeItsReggieT]

​@@Rated_FentyI caught that, too. NeNe was clearly unhappy.

[@missmohamed6944]

The love I have for nene is crazzy she deserves the world. And us supporters will support you and appreciate you ❤️

[@apartmentexpress7128]

I was a little taken back by Bethany interview skills but once I understood the assignment I wasn't mad! Bethany asked all the questions we wanted to know and was not biased! That was refreshing to see! Bethany might be the real new deal in reporting and journalism! Some what abrasive but effective!

[@GoneColoring]

This was so good. I hope Nene takes Bethany’s advice and makes her own show.

[@user-ql8ps6xn9g]

You can't have that me so great attitude

[@cherylrleigh1912]

Both of these remarkable women played pivotal roles and bore the primary responsibility for the tremendous success of their respective franchises. We extend our heartfelt gratitude to these ladies for the cherished memories they've provided; your contributions are truly valued and appreciated.

[@FireRobynDixon]

jfc wtf is this hr statement LOL.

[@unicoh972]

We’ve always loved you NeNe ! The show hasn’t been the same since you left. I stopped watching the show two seasons ago because it’s not the same without you

[@teeraney4895]

I was over the housewives a long time ago, but this was a great interview. I stopped for what I thought would be a minute and stayed for the whole interview.

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for following along!

[@bettycalixte6494]

I love Bethenny she’s a strong and wise businesswoman. I felt like she gave NENE motivation and support during this interview. I hope NENE will be able to get through this.

[@nunyabizzz1135]

Nene barely spoke. Bethany needs some classes on learning how to keep quiet. She cut off Nene way too much. It was awful

[@bettycalixte6494]

@@nunyabizzz1135 I see what you mean

[@sarahanderson9199]

Thank you Bethany for having Nene on your show. This is my first time watching your podcast. NeNe and you will always be the GOATS! 🐐 ❤

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for watching ❤ Subscribe to see more craziness next week!

[@Paschal84]

I love when Nene is transparent. She is so relatable!

[@yaya804]

Nee-Nee would make a great talkshow host! She is so eloquent! I've ALWAYS loved her but now i love her even more knowing her story and it's clearly genuine. Saying she was facinated by Kim at the gym made it real. She's not putting on airs at all. I think Bethanny was the perfect interviewer for her to be comfortable and can relate/expand on how Bravo treats different women on the different franchises. They both have been my favorites since the beginning! Loved this episode, so much!!

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for following along! Tell me who you'd want to see me interview next!

[@kenpalmer4256]

The fact that she discussed Kim in this interview and not one negative thing was said, shows just how un real these shows are. She didn't show an ounce of hate towards the women that she has been seen "fighting" with. Love her or hate her, she is entertaining, and that is undeniable. Anything she is in would be amazing! I wish the best for her.

[@theziggy6974]

you can tell Bethany is being REAL because she's so rich from all the stuff she's created so she doesn't need ANYTHING from BRAVO or Andy or Hollywood, and I love that for her. Drag them to hell, girls. LOL

[@Arvndenise]

Nene should have done the same before she sued… she shouldn’t have had to do that but it’s reality!

[@theziggy6974]

@@Arvndenise yeah, you could tell Nene was holding WAY BACK but living for Bethany letting it all hang out and wishing she could feel free to do the same. I hope Nene takes control of her future and starts her own podcast or something. lol She should honestly just open up a Patreon and start a podcast. I think people would sub in droves.

[@danieraye30]

Yessss!!!! Completely agree

[@ReneeTruehart]

Now THIS is my Ne Ne! I love ❤️ finding out more about her, and seeing the Ne Ne that I remember. She’s ALWAYS been real! Hugs 🤗

[@user-rw5xh7md6b]

Love Nene ❤ Leakes, I have missed her on the Real Housewives of Atlanta so much. The show is not the same without her.

[@Mzkc1]

The truth needs no support. Nene has NEVER changed her story!! I have always believed her✨

[@cherylrleigh1912]

Bethenny is an astute businesswoman who, right from the outset, skillfully negotiated a Real Housewives (RH) contract that enabled her to leverage their platform for brand promotion, all while securing 100% ownership of her profits. If NeNe were to consider a return to RHOA under a new contract, it would be prudent for her to seek out capable professionals who can adeptly negotiate the terms she needs to succeed.

[@MiscellaneousMeMe]

I think Bravo and co now have clauses to make sure no one else can profit like Bethany did without Bravo and Co getting a cut.

[@ReneeTruehart]

Good for you Ne Ne!!! Tell the truth on Bravo! I respect how you’re exposing Bravo and comparing the differences they make between the black and white Housewives Franchise. Hugs 🤗

[@siphelelesizani3565]

The first show I was introduced to was Atlanta and Nene was a standout to me. It’s clear a lot of the criticism she received was by a lot of tone policing, backwards, narrow-minded individuals that had it in there minds that Nene(a strong, confident, vivacious and personable) character was someone to fear. No one dared to check their biases because all Nene really wanted to do was shine.

[@oneandonly7585]

Seeing women who went through adversity as girls and who had to develop strength now use it for good is inspiring. We all have a purpose. They are equipped to stand up and create change. The irony is Bethany and Nene are bravo’s karma. They are powerful together. I am rooting for Nene and for her to make a comeback. She deserves it.

[@gayleholmes9081]

NeNe does not deserve a comeback. She treated her cast mates like IT, she got the ego and the ego got her. Its sickens me to see her whine about a once in a lifetime opportunity she and her black cast mates were given and it was NeNe that crapped all over it. She made her bed and she needs to lie in it and shut up whining about it.

[@oneandonly7585]

@@gayleholmes9081 I disagree with you. She does deserve a comeback we all do. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes. We all get humbled and it makes us better people. Nene has been through a lot. I hope she thrives.

[@fekixe]

OMG! The end? When NeNe said you would be powerful together and then embraced Bethenny? No joke, I instantly burst into tears of hope, was totally taken by surprise by the emotion that moment caused! Excellent interview! Would also like to add that this podcast felt like 30 mins long and satisfied very well indeed.

[@Ms.Niki-Neon]

This Interview pasted together soooo many things that didn’t make sense at the time! Nene’s interview was eye opening and amazing! I adored how vulnerable & transparent she was! She looks amazing! I pray that she finds love & work ! Bethanny Love u to pieces… love love love u!!! In my mind we are sisters!

[@dfutrel]

I believe NENE was telling the truth about the discrimination. I agree with Bethaney YES they exploited both she and NENE’s childhood traumas by purposely placing them in toxic and triggering environments/situations setting up their crews and cameras to catch the fallout and make MUST SEE TV! NOTE TO NENE: while you still have drawing power, get your own podcast and eventually your own TV show - YOU HAVE A BUILT-IN AUDIENCE (remember how many tuned in to see you on Carlos’ podcast), and at the end of the day, its a RATINGS GAME and you will get the ratings and some network will be enticed to give you another shot! KNOW YOUR WORTH! And then add tax!

[@sallydougherty1617]

I loved how honest and authentic this interview was.

[@Councils-Girl]

It was 75% honest!

[@n.v.1173]

The housewives franchise needs to end. Such toxicity & ratchet. 🙄 So glad Nene & Bethenny are out of it. 👍🏼⭐️

[@karenl14]

I agree. Do you watch any of the shows today?

[@n.v.1173]

@@karenl14I watched all housewives from day 1 for many years. Then stopped because it just continued to be so negative.

[@reuneety1]

I stop watching when Nene left.@@n.v.1173

[@karenl14]

@@n.v.1173 I agree

[@casmatori]

Nene was one of the ones making it ratchet though.

[@kanzlaparker4233]

I want to see Nene win! She is talented. I believe she did bring along the other cast members, not only for a show bit for the women around her to grow. She created an avenue for Sheree who was in a dependent and abusive relationship and Kim who was in a similar position. I really appreciated when she attempted to counsel Porscha. I agree with everyone. She deserves her own show.

[@user-ix6xs3jf1w]

Doors should open for Nene…she deserves it! We are praying things will happen for her❤

[@kkyles605]

I have always loved Ne Ne. She is an amazing spirit and I'm wishing her nothing but good vibes for her future. I am hoping that doors will open. Bethenny, thank you for bringing her on the show.

[@ogjfilms]

Bethany, why do you need a production company to do a show with Nene? Make your own and do you! I would totally be here for it! You and Nene are amazing and a show with you two together would be a hit, just keep it 100! No more of this 75- 82% crap!

[@MT-tx7bu]

There it is!!! Exactly. You two can do it together and make that money for yourselves. Why give it to Bravo?

[@IAMHIS55]

Production costs money and talent requires money and they’re striking they won’t use they’re own money it’s too expensive and too risky.

[@snarkyenigma9219]

Yes they could pay for the production (filming), but shows require backing, distribution, sponsorship etc; you really can't do it alone. Also, Bethenny isn't being entirely honest, and talk is cheap ... from the look on NeNe's face when she brought it up, something tells me that Bethenny has yet to make any official offer/pitch to NeNe or her people. The truth is NeNe is now a liability, and a lot of people would be afraid to work with her for fear that she would sue them too.

[@sarahrean7174]

It cost money nene is getting paid....

[@ogjfilms]

@@sarahrean7174 there is no doubt they both would. Although they would be the ones in control. Between their talent and business sense they would be laughing at Bravo all the way to the bank.

[@tamirector2498]

I would love NeNe to do her own show ❤️

[@globalfamiliesfirst]

Thank you Bethany! I have watched and admired you for many years. This was one of the best interviews I have ever seen. I came away with a much deeper understanding of NeNe and the underlying issues surrounding Real Housewives and reality television. I am sure I have much more to learn, but now at least I know I need to! These are very important, deep, societal issues that need to be looked at and discussed. More please 🙏. I would like to hear from many perspectives, whether or not I agree with them. The world is changing very fast. Change is necessary to grow. Again, I thank you 😊 ❤ Fran, Staten Island, New York

[@bethennyfrankel]

What do you want to see next?

[@globalfamiliesfirst]

Hi Bethany! That’s a tough question. There are so many pressing issues. I think we need more information about education, specifically about how our government works. We seem to have a generation of citizens who are completely ignorant about democracy, government, citizenship etc. I think the school curriculum had changed and it was no longer required for a high school diploma. I am not certain of this. It is a supposition. Given the fact that you have a school age daughter … Any thoughts? Fran

[@Emme4047]

Bethenny, I’m a 77 yr old wife and mom and grand mom. I adore you. I watched you with Martha and thought you should have won. And actually you did. You are an amazingly smart and touchingly kind person. Your kindness forward Nene was just what she needed. I love how you always try to move your guests to a better place. You deserve the best life ever and I think you have that now. Love you dear Bethenny

[@sheri4359]

I’m so over Bravo. There’s not one thing I watch on Bravo anymore. Bravo has totally jumped the shark!

[@50shadesofShay.]

Agreed

[@lc-il6wr]

I don't look at bravo anymore either.

[@Lmfao89]

Someone give this lady an acting role she was amazing on Glee

[@tegatega1547]

I love to hear her talk about Greg and I love that she has the space to do so!

[@reuneety1]

Much respect to Bethenny the business woman👑. After watching the interview I have so much admiration for you. Thank you for giving Nene the opportunity to speak her truth. ❤

[@stephanieanthony7791]

This was one of the best interviews I have seen in a while!!! You girls together can make a lot of changes, not just in the entertainment industry but in the real world!!! You need to do more together!!! Love you both and stand strong as you both always do!!! ❤️ ❤

[@jussjess2829]

When you stand for something, often times you risk it all. Nene is a force to be reckoned with and she will always be an interesting person to watch. Were rooting for you sis! Bethany’s ring has me in a chokehold by they way as well

[@yamilriverasanchez1867]

I didn't realize how much I missed Nene till I saw this interview. Well done, Bethenny!

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks xoxo

[@alesiav.4114]

Nene made Bravo what it is today. The Housewives honestly became way more interesting when she came on. She is naturally good on camera and I think she would be dynamic with her own platform. I hope she gets on KZbin and creates her own show. You don’t need these Networks. They’re all outdated anyway. Be well Nene ❤

[@k.l.f.3163]

I've been waiting for this visual and you two did not disappoint. I'm so happy people are allowing Nene a platform to speak and that's she's in a calmer place to talk about everything. I'm hoping for a HUGE comeback for her.

[@emmas9928]

Did they co-ordinate their colourful outfits!? I appreciate the stellar reality TV entertainment that Nene & Bethenny have given over the last decade Two OGs. ❤❤❤ Now to the video 🍿 🍿 🍿

[@Msdon833]

Nene needs to continue to develop her own platform with a production company.

[@haley2926]

Nene is one of the best to ever do it. This is a great interview so far and I’m only at the beginning. I like that it’s more personal and not just silly surface level.

[@sprungson]

She has too much pride for that.

[@tabev12]

I had no idea her aunt passed the year before Greg did. Her mindset and frustrations makes perfect sense. She put her whole life on the show, while dealing with the hardest battles and she can’t even get a conversation?? And then y’all go into her closet! Nope not ok

[@CookingwithDee2]

😢😢😢 I'm truly hurt for NeNe by this. PRAYING GOOD THINGS TO COME FOR HER.❤

[@patienceibeji4773]

The most iconic housewife ever is Nene Leakes 😍. Please can Nene Leakes start her own reality show? We are waiting!!

[@AngiexMarie]

Bethenny and NeNe .. literally the two GOATS coming together to finally sit down and talk in THE BEST WAY 🔥

[@xiomadesigns]

Finally!! I’ve been waiting for this episode. The thought of you and Nene on a road trip makes me laugh!!!! I’m glad she went on the show and was able to discuss racism without being attacked. Thank you both!

[@manoniemoments]

NeNe was married to The Real Housewives of Atlanta franchise for over a decade and the divorce was messy. Racism, discrimination, emotional & financial abuse were all factors that led up to this inevitable break up. After years of commitment and hard-work she was left stifled & bewildered on these entertainment streets. She helped build the franchise and continues to generate revenue for the network without compensation. NeNe (as well as the other black cast members on RHOA) experienced discrimination and systemic racism while filming for the show. NeNe was the spokesperson for the cast members. She complained to Bravo executives on behalf of the group for several years and the issues were never addressed. All this was happening while The Powers That Be are phasing her out of the show without her understanding and proper accommodations. NeNe was portrayed, by the media, as ungrateful & difficult to work with which is far from the truth. After NeNe left the show, she filed a legal complaint. I believe it was to get their attention and evoke a much overdue response to the issues. After her exit from the show she wasn’t able to book jobs for several years. During that time she lost her husband of many years, Greg. He was sort of her voice of reason and the peacemaker in their relationship. I think NeNe needed and needs a better team (agent, manger, publicist, attorney, etc.). You have to have the right people in place to help you successfully navigate in business. Her claims were valid, and hopefully she continues to soar. Bravo, as well as other networks are making money off of talent by monetizing via syndication, streaming, distribution and other income channels without paying the talent. Bethenny’s movement, SAG, and other fair treatment advocates/supporters are speaking out and working towards getting better contracts for talent. It’s a great interview. It gives insight into NeNe’s & Bethenny’s perspective. Check it out for yourself. These are my thoughts & notes 📝.😉

[@BethanyKochanski]

Excellent notes! I agree, NeNe needs a better team. She’s remarkable. Bethenny & NeNe are awesome and this interview was great.

[@Zomiks202]

Ms Nene gives the best interviews. ❤ ...LANCOME should add her to their ambassador list.😊

[@bethennyfrankel]

Thanks for watching xoxo

[@emiliedescoteaux5518]

Crazy how they had similar childhoods and endend up being so alike personality wise! STRONG WOMENS UNITE

[@Poeticfloetic]

*Women not women's. Women means plural.more than one. ❤

[@erinIreland01]

Bethenny come on.. all networks have friends and such at other networks that do control who is working and not. It’s not that hard of a concept. Just finished the episode. Great job ladies!!! I was glued the entire 2.5 hours and I would love and support nene podcast or anything she does next!

[@marriejames01]

Thank you. Idk why it’s hard for some people to believe. All the network Executives have a relationship. Either way, Nene has a following. Instead of going on multiple shows and crying she should have her own Podcast and products. There’s no excuse to not have a business.

[@1stpageplacementNet]

We don't have to always know our future to be blessed with one. Nene...Move with Peace, Calm and Intention. The man upstairs Controls All Narratives. You didn't Lose Anything...You've Evolved. Sometimes when we think we lose...We really win. What a mature, honest, stellar interview. Well done ladies. Your blessing are in season. Be patient, quiet and wait. He's got you. If you and Bethany are meant to be...It will be. Your blessings are coming.

[@rlb5290]

Here’s my “fan theory” about the situation. After Kim’s last season where the roach thing happened and Nene questioned why she had her own show, she complained to producers about unfair treatment. Because in one of her other interviews she explained how after that reunion she and the other girls approached producers to complain and nothing came of it. I believed they didn’t like that and because she was the “ring leader” so to speak they decided it was time to get her out. A few seasons later slowly everyone started turning on her starting with Kenya. I believe after her suspension for not “sharing her marriage” etc production pressured her to have a storyline and Nene became the target (because I believe production told her to do so). Slowly everyone began turning on her, which was low bc of Greg’s health battle. Things subsided for a little but then ramped back up where only Porsha (who eventually left after she was attacked the following season) and Marlo were the only ones who defended or supported her. The way Bravo built her up, cashed in and broke her down was nasty work. It’s funny because now everyone is trying to clear their conscience including Cynthia and Kenya saying Nene should be back on the show in their interviews as of late. But idk as someone who watched over the years as the entire situation played out, what do I know… *breathes* I love Nene and she has had cringe moments but their biggest mistake was losing her. Look at the show now, it’s just boring and the storylines are recycled played out. That’s why people watch Potomac as far as an all black cast is concerned.

[@djjosierock]

Nene you should put your story in a book. Would love to read about it!

[@VJ-tc6py]

I'm pretty sure she said she wrote one 3rd season? Did I imagine that?

[@djjosierock]

I just got to the part where she mentioned her book. Good for her!@@VJ-tc6py

[@808darwin]

@@VJ-tc6py you're correct, she mentioned that she wrote a memoir

[@FabulousAlways]

I loved and hated this interview all at once. Nene did amazing... she really reflects the black woman’s experience even in Corporate America. Bethenny was good. I just wish she would hold space to hear her guest more instead of speaking over them. She was cutting off a lot of Nene’s really amazing points. Also, it’s OK to call out that her experience would be different because she’s a black woman. And can we stop asking black women to humble themselves!

[@australiafountain1686]

I think nene did a lot of not answering the questions 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@ABHigherPower]

This is the comment I was looking for. I like Bethanny, but she kept cutting Nene off. By the end, anyone would feel tired trying to keep up. It could be a North (high energy) vs. South (more laid back) thing, but Bethanny kept telling her story instead of really listening to Nene's experiences.

[@jordanrhodes2676]

Bethenny overtalks and interrupts all the time. I actually felt that she wasn’t as bad this interview, probably because Nene is such a force lmao. Love them both.

[@damien1781]

They both over talk so stop

[@determined0803]

Someone needs to coach this lady. She keeps cutting Nene. I could not even enjoy the interview

[@diegoviews9058]

Such a well done honest and open thorough interview! I had respect for both of these women before, but so much more now! MAKE THIS RV SHOW!!!!!

[@jend3388]

Hands down... most enjoyable, best interview you have done as of yet! Love you two!

[@bethennyfrankel]

Awww, YAY!

[@debbysimon120]

I side with Nene about the black/white violence on the housewife's franchise. The fact that LISA RINNA threw a wine glass and broke it and glass shattered everywhere and could have blinded someone, and the fact she actually reached across the table to STRANGLE Kim Richards, and she did NOT GET FIRED??? That right there was SPECIAL PRIVILIDGE. P.s. I am white.

[@gayleholmes9081]

PS, NeNe is black and like it or not, she should know better. Instead of taking advantage of a once in a lifetime opportunity to gather wealth and access, she crapped all over everybody and expected to be rewarded for it....ww can pull that it, off, we can not....even after a nose job, blonde hair and light make up, she's still a woman of color, something she seems to forget.

[@missiris1234]

I agree. Some people we’re definitely treated unfairly and I do think color had everything to do with it. Teresa has gotten away with so much. I wish cast complained about this years ago but they didn’t and it went on forever it seems. I am also older white person.

[@debbysimon120]

Oh yea! I forgot about her too! Yes, she was quite violent also. I never watched that franchise, but I saw clips of it. I agree, the black women were unfairly treated. I was really bummed out when Monique went after Candance, cuz I preferred Monique over Candance, she just seemed like a BRAT.@@missiris1234

[@memedicine1]

Ramona did the same thing to that former model (the blonde/Jewish one) and she (the model) was actually cut the in the face while she was holding onto a row boat and fully submerged in water!!!! I felt bad for her and the producers gave 0 f's.

[@gayleholmes9081]

@@memedicine1 Does Porsha ring a bell? L:isten, NeNe isn't being black balled for violence, she crapped all over everyone and is now paying the price for it....the fact she can't get pass her own blame is her fault.

[@danayetman253]

I totally understand what NENE is saying. 100%. I'm a white Canadian woman, I have no lived experience like NeNe but I BELIEVE NeNe. Bravo is dirty. Thank you Bethenny and NeNe!!!! # Truth

[@TheSakebomb1]

After seeing the Hunger Games, I have always thought Andy Cohen was the living Caesar Flickerman. Now B and Nene confirmed it.. this only took 10 plus years..kudos ladies keep shining.

[@atboptimistic-6853]

This was an amazing, beautifully honest, and powerful Podcast!