The Real Origins and Different Sub Species of Targaryen Dragons

Dragons from Game of thrones and House of the dragon are very different from each other and they are said to be of three different breeds but we are also going to talk about their origins, the evolution or how they came to be and also whether Balerion, Meraxes and Vhagar are also quite different from each other.

[@stormerjc9493]

If I had to take a stab and what the different breeds are designed to do if we go with they where breed with magic I'd say that, The syrax species is designed for speed and agility in the air with a smaller size and smaller shape The caraxes species is designed for long distance travel with its long light body, lone wings and extra back leg wings And the drogon species is designed for pure fighting power with robust body, massive Jaws and powerful fire

[@shoppincarties]

but caraxes only has an elongated neck and extra wings because of a birth defect, no other dragons look like him

[@mrdodo3132]

@@shoppincarties yes but there are 3 types of dragons mainly based on their skulls, the wolf like, the dinosaur like and the in between type. even George went over this and there are multiple reasons for why the dragons look so different.

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

@@shoppincarties Exactly.

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

@@mrdodo3132 Yes but it still debunks Stormers theory as Caraxes is unique.

[@fang609]

Problem with Caraxes is that his deformed according to an interview. Which explains why he is the way he is. I'm guessing any other Dragons we see with the wolf/dog skulls will look different. Heck we're seen what Vhagar and Meleys look like and they look completely different from all the other Dragons

[@abe9984]

I hope when we see Dreamfyre, she looks like Drogon, Viserion, and Rheagal, since in theory she’s they’re biologically mother

[@harshaldeshpande8869]

All of them look alike Just the colour and sizes are different

[@MfezekoMatshoba]

@@harshaldeshpande8869 Lol what? 🤔🤔🤔

[@kingsman5913]

We don't actually know that for sure it's just a theory.

[@sinceredtb3227]

@@harshaldeshpande8869 uh no daemon dragon is different

[@bornaerdec533]

@@sinceredtb3227 drogon viserion and rhaegal are daenery's dragons

[@seventhirty22]

I hope this doesn't come off differently than intended, but the dragons didn't come to Westeros with Aegon and his sisters. They came to Westeros with Aegon's great-great-great grandparents. In fact, Vhagar and Meraxes were born in Westeros, on Dragonstone. Balerion is the only dragon that was actually born in Valyria. Not trying to be rude. But hopefully offer a helpful bit of information... Great video!!! Keep them coming...

[@sinco7562]

Good looking out, but I think he cleared that up. Balerion and 4 other dragons were brought to Dragonstone from Old Valyria. Meraxes and Vhagar hatched on Dragonstone, then Aegon and his sister's brought those 3, Balerion, Meraxes and Vhagar to mainland Westeros.

[@valarmorghulis5575]

Fact. Balerion was already very big and at his prime when he bonded with Aegon. He arrived with Aenar Targaryen when they exited Valyria because of his daughter's prophecy of an impending doom.

[@jackgould5332]

Caraxes is actually meant to somewhat deformed, as a young sunfire was shown in the extended trailers he had a similar look to caraxes but not the long serpentine body and neck

[@Lethal_Giggles]

Must have missed it. Don’t remember seeing Sunfyre.

[@yourallc-unts]

Wrong stop talking shit

[@muntu1221]

I feel like people are reading too much into that statement. It sounded to me like they were just saying they were going for a more odd or disturbing look, contrasting it with Syrax who was more falcon-like.

[@vCLOWNSHOESv]

Caraxes is a blood worm which explains the appearance.

[@muntu1221]

@@vCLOWNSHOESv Blood *wyrm, which is usually just another name for a dragon. But it may also be the inspiration for him being serpentine.

[@hilltop9524]

As soon as I saw the different breeds/subspecies of the dragons of ASoIAF in the new show, I immediately thought that they were meant for different things: Bulkier breed - Balerion, Drogon, Vhagar, Rhaegal, Syrax Slim and agile breed - Caraxes, Sunfyre, Tessarion, Meleys, Morning Smaller breeds, meant for delivering messages and joyriding - Moondancer, Quicksilver I also believe that Valyrians bred them for specific jobs to assist in Valyria but that they were all bred for war or at the very least could be utilized in wars, be it vanguard, support, distraction, or messengers.

[@tresjolieme81]

you forgot slender Dreamfrye who I hope has Drogons look but blue.

[@Alejojojo6]

And Meraxes?

[@hilltop9524]

@@Alejojojo6 Hard to say for sure, from the descriptions of her, she was most likely the bulky breed as she was said to be big enough to eat a horse in one go. Possibly abnormally large agile breed, since HBO's own artwork shows her to have similar features to Caraxes (really long neck, similar to the Fellbeast in LoTR)

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@hilltop9524 Caraxes only has a long neck due to a deformation as a hatchling

[@nomer4]

Geez, the books say in plain text that Caraxes don't form correctly in the egg, and you come up with a million types and archetypes on a case-by-case basis.

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

Meraxes and Vhagar were born on Dragonstone. Of the multiple dragons that Aenar Targaryen brought Balerion was the youngest having been born in Valyria several years before the Doom.

[@menumlor9365]

As far as Danny is concerned they’re not beasts. They’re her children.

[@mikerzisu9508]

And?

[@dejoreljackson1787]

@@mikerzisu9508 pretty sure that was meant as humor. Calm down : )

[@menumlor9365]

Thank you for catching on. Some folks are quite dense.

[@ariaarulasan]

Mad Queen

[@mikerzisu9508]

@@menumlor9365 like yourself?

[@SkaffaS]

Drogon is still my favorite, he looks so menacing, imagine him at Vhagar's or even Balerion's size.

[@DeB8834]

@SkaffaS drogon is my favorite too.. I m agree with you🐉🖤🔥❤

[@kunik61]

Dragons don’t have breeds in GoT verse. I wish Martin wouldn’t make them die all the time. It is weird to mix obsession with dragons with obsession of giving them dramatic roles. Though I disagree that Drogon is the last one. We know that some dragons went in absentia. We know there are few more unhatched eggs. We know dragons may be living somewhere far away.

[@rosesandsunflowers4905]

Maybe they are in west of the Westeros. I remember Arya going to discover there in the last episode of GOT. (I'm talking according to the series)

[@kunik61]

@@rosesandsunflowers4905 I am sure they are but still.

[@justt1984]

@@rosesandsunflowers4905 west of Westeros is just Far East essos, that’s it

[@DatBoiChris420]

They clearly do in HOTD

[@thesahel7218]

Who’s going to ride them though?

[@sean5558]

I would lean towards the theory of hybridization of wyverns and fire wyrms. I would also speculate that the parasitic fire wyrms with hands and faces that infected princess Aerea were used somehow by the Valyrians to fuse humans with blood of the dragon, like how retro virus is used in genetic engineering to introduce new genes into genome

[@alixmattarozzi4724]

Really interesting !!

[@chelseasherrell6277]

yes! i said this on another vid where the same two people were arguing over and over in the comments about how there was nothing else in the world of ASOIAF that could harm a Targaryen dragon, especially Balerion.....even though something obviously did bc of his condition upon returning with princess Aerea. Septon Barth's book, Dragons, Wyrms, and WyrvernsL Their Unnatural History (which King Baelor I condemned and ordered every copy destroyed, except for a few incomplete surviving fragments) speculated on how it was possible the Valyrian bloodmages may have created dragons from wyvern (and firewyrm=some of the missing bits) stock/DNA. if Barth were indeed correct, then yeah a firewym or wyvern might F a dragon up, although for Balerion it may have taken a whole gang of them. firewyrms were said to live in the 14 Flames long before dragons appeared, that they hatred men, and could breathe fire. wyverns look similar to dragons in ASOIAF but are said to be more ferocious, they have wings and claws, but also sharp weird beaks, could not breathe fire, and were found just a bit south of Valyria on Sothoryos. i think thats probably what happened. maybe, lol love me some GRRM

[@sean5558]

@@chelseasherrell6277 absolutely! I think wyvern or fire wyrms probably put up a fight and got some good licks in on Balerion but I think Balerion came out on top and came back and said “ yeah but you should see the other guy” lol

[@chelseasherrell6277]

@@sean5558 🤣 yeah I can see that

[@Jacob-ge1py]

wouldn't you expect to see accounts of the valyrians taming/using wyverns and fire wyrms then? It would be pretty weird if they managed to go straight from encountering two completely different species, in completely different places to merging the two together without some period of coming to understand both. Especially seeing as we're told that the Valyrians went from sheep farmers to dragons, wouldn't you expect there to be a period of the Valyrians using wyrms and/or wyverns? Utilising either one of those would surely earn them a place in the history books as something other than sheep farmers.

[@connormohun1373]

Just an FYI - Aegon’s ancestors brought them to Dragonstone. Balerion was one of the five and Vhegar and Meraxes are their descendants :)

[@canislunaticus]

Wasn't caraxes said to be deformed? He seems to be the same breed as Arrax and Vermax. Syrax and Sunfyre seems to be the same breed. Seasmoke, dreamfyre, viserion, balerion, drogon and rhaegal seems to be the same breed. But that leaves Meleys who seems to be an entirely different breed, and not only in terms of looks but also her sound design. So it seems to be 4 different breeds (Drogon's breed, Syrax's breed, Vermax's breed and Meleys' breed) of course there can be dragons of same sub species or breed that look different from one another (different bend in horns for example) but the difference is too big for meleys to be related to any of the 3 main breeds unless she or any other dragons are hybrids

[@helixxia9320]

i agree caraxes head shape is a bit similar to vermax and arrax and likely the same breed and he probably would have more of a similar body to them too had he not been born with the valyrian blood curse/deformity

[@anndee5856]

Vermax is actually related to Vermithor's breed.

[@user-cr4cj1fl8z]

Its time for them to make a show or movie about Valyria before its colapse and show us a litle bit more of the east lands cuz you cant just put prequel after prequel story in Westeros cuz it will get stale and we already know how it all ends so many of the plotline or characters wont matter to us.

[@brandenapexo604]

Caraxes and Vhagar look so unique to me

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

The rules are different in each fantasy setting. A lot of people base their settings off D&D so the wyvern/dragon thing comes up when it really shouldn't. However, if we look to the real world "Dragon" is symply the english word for any giant serpintine creature. 2 legs, 4 legs, no legs, 2 wings, 4 wings, no wings All have been hystorically called Dragons, or an ancient form of the word. Aditional: the only historical distinction between Dragons and Wyverns (pronounced why-vern btw, not wi-vern) comes from historically modern heraldry, and even there they are refered to as 2 winged Dragons.

[@mikerzisu9508]

Okay, whatever you say mister phd

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

@@mikerzisu9508 lol

[@garrettlich7140]

Thank finally someone who knows thier shit and isn’t an ass about it

[@klaythompson663]

@Marbas That's because of ignorance from people though. Some languages use the same term for tigers and lions because the people don't care to know the difference. But there are clear distinctions just like with Wyvern vs Dragons.

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

@@klaythompson663 Except that the distinction is a modern addition. So it is not the same situation as lions and tigers at all. D&D popularised the idea that Wyverns are a seperate spiecies and that's fine if the setting does draw a distinction such as D&D and indeed ASOIAF. But that rule is not universal by any means. Historically a Dragon is literaly any giant serpentine creature, and in modern deffinitions any giant mythical reptile. You're right that it is a topic that many people are ignorant of, but not for the reasons you describe. And again, the only Real world distinction comes from English, Scottish, and Irish heraldry yet other European countries did not separate the two. So one cannot even say that European or western dragons are one specific form. Only when your specific Fantasy setting specifies there is a difference and then only in that world.

[@samirmuhammad1781]

daenerys' dragon eggs are probably the three dragon eggs stolen durin Jaehaerys I Targaryen 's reign. they could be Vhagar and Balerion's hatchlings for all we know.

[@shedrackjenkins1941]

Whaat

[@King_Blackheart]

Holy shit!!

[@shedrackjenkins1941]

@@King_Blackheart that’s what I said!

[@micheleford4282]

or vermithor and silverwing considering jaehaerys had vermithor and his wife had silver wing

[@makshay]

3 eggs were stolen and the woman who stole them got ship wrecked near ashai. Dannys eggs came from ashai. So it makes sense now.

[@makeupbydenicia]

I would love to see Balerion the dread onceeee in this show 😩😩

[@jackgould5332]

We just see his skull, but let's hope they do a at least series about aegons conquest

[@mikerzisu9508]

Maybe in a flashback

[@paulnokio1199]

I predict that this will happen, however I bet they will save it for another spinoff /prequel

[@tipodeincognito5660]

And the showrunners know it. Everyone want the big moody lizard, so I'd be surprised if we dont get some flashback or dream with it. King Viserys was (shortly) its rider too, so its doable.

[@tipodeincognito5660]

@@jackgould5332 Nothing against that idea, but maybe its too much of dragons and targaryen already. Ther are more places and eras to be explored. ( The first long night, with giants and chidren of the forest would be nice. Back to the ice)

[@tresjolieme81]

Dreamfrye I hope has Drogons face (since shes the mom), but femininized with her slender blue frame.

[@yourallc-unts]

Stop your bullshit no truth behind comments you are wrong and always will be.

[@valarmorghulis5575]

and long lashes too like the dragon in Shrek

[@prateekmahapatra1789]

@@valarmorghulis5575 lol

[@Rat_Juice7000]

aint no way ur tryna make a dragon be feminine or masculine

[@nicknobody1017]

All wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns A wyvern in most fantasy stories (though not all) is just a different type of dragon. The way I see, wyverns and dragons are both very closely related evolution wise. They’re categorically related. Think of it like this: a bearded dragon and a gecko are both lizards so why make a fuss about the specifics?

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

The rules are different in each fantasy setting. A lot of people base their settings off D&D so the wyvern/dragon thing comes up when it really shouldn't. However, if we look to the real world "Dragon" is symply the elglish word for any giant serpintine creature. 2 legs, 4 legs, no legs, 2 wings, 4 wings, no wings All have been hystorically called Dragons, or an ancient form of the word. Aditional: the only historical distinction between Dragons and Wyverns (pronounced why-vern btw, not wi-vern) comes from historically modern heraldry, and even there they are refered to as 2 winged Dragons.

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

@Your_local_fangirl That's a good point, they are refered to as "kin to dragons" though so I wonder how much the distinction is cultural rather than strictly biological taxonomy.

[@Dracorientalis]

The first line of your comment is right on the money. But as absolute lifeless spod that's way to into mythologies and history I can clarify a bit more in a real world sense. 'Wyvern (pronounced Why-vern) is actually a term for a biomechanical frame type of certain animals, like humans are bipedal and dogs are quadrapeds. Bats are technically wyverns, using their fore legs / arms to walk as well as fly. All pterasaurs are wyverns for the same reason. However there is a greek / roman mythological creature called: 'Wyvern' too (pronounce wiv-ern and not Why-vern) that gets people confused. Wyverns (wiv-erns) are about human height with a dragon like body that stand up right like chicken or seagull with wings cross behind their backs or tuck in at the sides like modern bird and have snake like necks and heads. They don't breath fire instead they spit acid or tar. So same spelling but different pronouncation and meaning. One is nasty walking winged-snake like acidic tar snot squirter from greek mythos and the other is referrence to a body type of a animal (in most cases, a type of dragon or to describe how flying dinosaurs may have lived on the ground).

[@deborahgoslin5858]

Thanks !

[@thaprofessa2296]

Yeah drogon seasmoke and belerion type seem more closely related than others like syrax vhagar and caraxes, kinda points to fire wyrm wyvern hybrids. Also note the nose shape differences

[@sphereunitedheroes7936]

Dragons from the game of throne are the closest as a realistic and that's what I like about these creatures.

[@yourallc-unts]

Dragons were never real so they can't ever be realistic....

[@sphereunitedheroes7936]

@@yourallc-unts Ik, but looking at Drogon's design and his behavior, if you wanted to make a dragon that almost looks real, Drogon is a great example.

[@yourallc-unts]

@@sphereunitedheroes7936 well no 8t ain't as they aren't real so they never looked like anything

[@yoanmihov5143]

@@sphereunitedheroes7936 Drogon was pretty generic tbh compared to what we're getting in HotD.

[@Lucky13Ravens]

No part of me believe they are 'breeds'. Dragons are shown to be sentient, and are talked of as choosing their own mates. They are family lines.

[@helixxia9320]

it is said that they have specific breeds. not sure if the show universe really designs the dragons after that particular thing from the books or if they just design them how they feel. but since almost all other dragons died like 200 years before house of the dragon then the targaryens would probably just breed together any dragon that is left so the breeds are all just mixed now and the dragons look however

[@aimeejones9533]

The showrunners confirmed there are three breeds of dragon - is there a clip of this? I keep seeing people say HBO are confirming certain things and can never find them!

[@canislunaticus]

The showrunners needs to fact check themselves or go back to learning about breeds/sub species because there are clearly more than 3 breeds, or at the very least hybrids and mixes. Also there's no way Vhagar hatched so many different breeds alone.

[@a4j6y2l9]

0:21 it was aenar targaryen who relocated his house from valyria to dragonstone and they lived there for 6 generations before aegon, rhaenys, and visenya conquered westeros. balerion was the last targaryen dragon to have seen valyria before its collapse, he died at over 200 years old. vhagar and meraxes were both hatched on dragonstone.

[@dreamwarrior_7833]

You're not watching HOTW. C'mon, they're called dragons in the books and series.

[@Lesistius]

Yes, but this is more like saying it’s a “cat “, sure but there are different breeds and species of cats. Just like there are different types of dragons !

[@_saul9747]

You should have known 33 seconds into the video that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He said that Balerion, Meraxes, and Vhagar came with the Targaryens from Valeria but only Balerion did from the 3, Meraxes & Vhagar were hatched at Dragonstone.

[@FamilyChannel-yv1xv]

In the game of thrones world there literally is two differences two wyverns and dragons,dragons breath fire and wyverns have beaks,so to try and say the game of thrones dragons are wyverns is pointless because your wrong,it’s a different world with different rules,plus I think wyverns are extinct in the books

[@softwareds8262]

Waiting for war of dragon

[@Juansaurusguillermerikchow95]

hello,i am new in your channel

[@clayharris7740]

Hey MindQ can you please do How to Train Your Dragon and Dragons the Nine Realms videos and theories and dragon species and biology like are dragons archosaurs ancient prehistoric creatures from the Mesozoic era that are related to dinosaurs birds pterosaurs and crocodillans

[@mindq4328]

sure, will do

[@shedrackjenkins1941]

Yes i second this

[@kylelee5966]

vhagar and meleys seem to be different breeds also

[@paleoguy2165]

They’re not the same species but they’re the same genus. Just different species

[@helixxia9320]

does it say that in the book? have the showrunners said that?

[@cambuxton6835]

I love dragons. I don’t care what breed they are.

[@derekbidelman2442]

I feel like there are 3 different types for sure,one is a more horse, for riding long distance quickly ,the second is like Ceraxes or Meleys more wolf type and the 3rd kind is Belarion and Vaghar more like a lion.

[@flamenebula1856]

The theory of dragons being hybrids from wyverns & fire worms seem plausible, tho all dragons were bred for fighting and the older they are the bigger they grow so there are only 2 types, Heavy slower "war horse" type :- Drogon, Balarion, Vhagar Sleeker nimble, faster type :- cyrax, sunfyre, meleys Caraxes although it is said was deformed is probably a throw back to what the first F1 hybrid looked like, as he looks like a worm who has wings and breaths fire

[@Ned-nw6ge]

Wyverns being basically dragons with any number of limbs but unable to breathe fire comes from actual dragon mythology. It's funny to me how the ability to breathe fire sets dragons apart from wyverns instead of their number of limbs.

[@jithinraj1830]

Meleys is the most underrated dragon

[@jackashmore]

Don’t get your nerd into my lore guys, they’re dragons in this universe and they have wyverns (F spelling) already in GoT just not on show

[@Trucker0308]

Im lost here? They came with 5 dragons and the is rest history so how did these other breeds come about? I need Them to make it make sense

[@helixxia9320]

breeds probably are not much of a thing anymore since the first targaryens in westeros had so few left and just likely bred together any they could to get eggs and keep the species alive. the dragons living during the dance are probably mixed between breeds, but we can maybe try and look who is related closest by head shapes. in old valyria they probably kept breeds more apart to have the specific traits kept for each type. but in the current show i think the dragons are just not pure bred breeds anymore

[@Kenneth_James]

If HBO was smart they would have made a show featuring Ancient Valyria. Would have been visually amazing and interesting.

[@Yeaitstemp]

cant wait till we get dragon battle just vicious

[@Dalipoko]

The last theory is straight outta Tolkien’s universe. Not a jab at GRRM, just sayin.

[@tiaancornelius996]

What if they just call all of them dragons, though they are different species just like in the original series they called all dogs hounds

[@obiwahndagobah9543]

This is in fact an interesting bit of history of the English language. Until the Norman conquest of England, "hound" was the only word for dogs. Like in German were it is "Hund". Dog is an old loanword from medieval Norman French. Because of the Norman aristocracy in England "dog" spread into the common speech and "hound" was only remembered in the countryside, where hunting dogs were used.

[@DeB8834]

Drogon is my fav!!❤4e

[@tipodeincognito5660]

I really dont think they have "breeds" at all. Just a lot of individual variety. Daenerys ones were a special case, being sort of "brothers" by the way they were hatched, and involving accidental blood magic and also her gimmick of not burning.

[@abhisheksuratkar]

well if dany's 3 dragon eggs were from same litter then makes sense why they are exactly same other than color

[@mccarlmiranda3643]

MAYBE SMAUG WAS ONE OF THEM

[@jacobbelfegor8761]

I want see Young Griff Blackfyre Ride cannibal 😍😍

[@mucahitsimsek4988]

Is the voice actor Stewie from Family Guy?

[@Qbgarden]

Vhagar is a Khezu shaped dragon

[@mikerude5073]

Don't necessarily put too much sock in what showrunners say. Often they do something for an artistic choice, and then make a comment about it, but have put far less thought into it than the fans. The fans then run wild with theories, but none of it will necessarily play out in anything on the show. I've seen fan arguments going on and on at length, on which dragon type Vhagar is, with fans comparing her skull to a T.Rex, to show she looks nothing like a horse, then others arguing that isn't what horse type means, and so on. Then they will further argue about which breed simply has to be the parent of Danny's dragons, and others will argue that different breeds doesn't mean they can't necessarily produce offspring with other breed characteristics. Putting too much thought into this. The dragon's vary in appearance, but don't try to extrapolate too much from it.

[@sureshmakwana8709]

0:21 Isn't this info wrong?? Only Balerion was the original dragon who was alive and had seen the Old Valeria and was flown by the grandfather of Aegon. Vhagar and meraxes were born on Dragonstone in Westeros. And Aegon and his sister wives too were born on Dragonstone !

[@ajackass5950]

Aegon was absolutely not the first to bring dragons to westeros. that honor goes to Aenar, father of Daynes the dreamer who forsaw the doom. dragon lords were seen visiting westeros and specifically flying over the black water rush when Aenar migrated to dragonstone. likely trying to get Aenar to return his dragons to the freehold as it was illegal for them to live outside of Valyria. then the doom came. a few generations later, Aegon came around and had his dream. Then he and his sisters brought their dragons to war. they were not this first recorded dragon riders in westeros which you literally just stated near the end of the video after previously saying the opposite. do you even know words you are saying?

[@shunsui5626]

lol he used an ark survival dragon as an example hahahaha i love that game

[@heidischeffler8976]

Umm, Aenor Targaryen, Father of Danys the Dreamer is the one who brought 5 dragons with them to Dragonstone, the youngest being the Black dread. It was not Aegon and his sisters.

[@tsr-animations7798]

In the A Song of Ice and Fire universe, Dragons and Wyverns are closely related but distinctly different species with a common ancestor. George's Dragons are more realistic in their body plan, by having 4 limbs and not the stereotypical European 6 limbed body plan. Let's assume evolution in this universe happened in parallel with what happened in real life. Where both dragons and wyverns evolved from a quadruped ancestor. One of them evolved the ability to breathe fire, but other didn't. Dragons uses quadruped locomotion, much like what bats and pterosaurs do. Wyverns in this universe, I'm not sure if they're bipeds or quadrupeds, but it's still possible for them to evolve bidal locomotion and be able to fly, a good irl example are birds, who's distant ancestors are quadrupeds that evolved into bipeds (aka Dinosaurs and later birds).

[@PlatipuseKing]

There were likely many more breeds lost. The dragons that laid the great valyrian roads were most likely a special breed selected for their ability to control fire and work stone. House targaryen were one of the weakest valyrian houses and probably had the lowest tiers of dragons

[@anneconner1108]

What is all the theories are all correct but just happen in a certain order. Like someone from the shadow lands made them from a wyvern and wyrm , took them to valariya, then the eggs they lay there hatched and people thought that was the beginning of them, then lil later some targs did some blood magic to tweak them to make the new creatures (dragons) obey them since they where really into that with all the slaves they owned and what not. Only one idk about and can’t get behind is the whole cracked second moon theory. But someone feel free to enlighten me to it. Maybe I just can seen the possibilities in that one.

[@RareVBlue]

Can you imagine being the dragon tamer that got them both to breed together?? Dragon tamer: eyyyy you need to hit that

[@wandersonsalazarsalazar8545]

Hello, please put a subtitle in Spanish or Portuguese. Your channel is very interesting, but I get lost in some English words 😅

[@mindq4328]

But we don't know español

[@wandersonsalazarsalazar8545]

@@mindq4328 what a shame 😿

[@justsaymayb3]

I’m not too sure you’ve read much of these books if at all

[@Lesistius]

WHYverns not WIIverns

[@binukjose1903]

Dude these are fantacy and why do you try to explain it 😂😂😂😂

[@jasonlauritsen5587]

Really, what happened was that a drake n a fire wurm got drunk and what the result of that night, was dragons.

[@mikearts8835]

There might be more breeds of dragons since targaryens had more dragons than only Balerion, Vhagar and Meraxes. Before Aegon they had idk exactly how many but I guess 5-8

[@quagmire8565]

Do u guys think that dragons really existed in the real world history 😶😶

[@yourallc-unts]

They really do but what do you expect most people on KZbin/social media are thick as shit especially the Americans

[@DinoMan_6]

Budget diff.

[@mikerzisu9508]

Yeah? You work for HBO? Otherwise be quiet

[@materesalucidomiranda9314]

CARAXES WAS BREED IN MICRORAPTOR

[@raimundasalazar9416]

Cada a legenda

[@aixatroche3636]

Couple mistakes vhagar was born on dragon stone maybe the book in India the translation says it was born on valyria when it wasn't it was only balerion born in valyria

[@safuan2009]

Outch my ears, not earphones friendly bruh…

[@greatdragon_nns]

they are wyverns, not dragons, dragons, have 2 front legs(arms), 2 back legs, and wings, while wyverns only have 2 legs, and winged arms ! don't disrespect my kind !

[@prajnahegde2440]

Good content but your narration is giving me anxiety

[@telfordexotics167]

I wish all the dragons looked the same man, not a fan of this descion, like not identical but the same body plan, the long body plan is dead out man let's be honest

[@paulnokio1199]

Wyvern =4 legs +2 wings. Dragons 2 legs +2 modified arms/wings cmon People lol.

[@pepeddrobarros2934]

So, they mate? They have sexual breedind? And, why never we see a female with cubs?

[@wyattfinnesgard8195]

First

[@davidpuia2564]

Dragon from Dragonheart movie is the best in body structure

[@Kevynmorgan]

Argon didn't bring the dragons

[@gaayyak]

If in the books Caraxes was killed by a scorpion in Dorne, why was this not common knowledge as these people know their history so well. The scorpion was introduced as an invention of Qyburn in season 7.

[@galangadhywibowo6640]

it was meraxes

[@yourallc-unts]

Also qyburn said the scorpion schematics was from dorne he just built it. Do you even know the show/books

[@yonirais4699]

i would say that vhagar is her own kind of subspecies of dragons and syrax is of the same breed as drogon and his brothers

[@BlankEmporium]

More clickbait garbage. Nice.

[@ousmanjallow7866]

W

[@lillypharaoh5945]

Caraxis is a deformed dragon there were no dragons like him

[@chinmay4331]

This video kind of fails because all the dragons we see in HotD are descended from Vhagar. The only dragon descended from Meraxes was Quicksilver and it was killed by Balerion. Balerion, being a male dragon, did not itself lay any clutch of eggs.

[@nichhodge8503]

Caraxes & Vhagar don’t look as good as Drogon. I love Drogon’s design and his fire seemed to be explosive as we saw when he destroyed King’s Landing all by himself, stone buildings and the city walls just blew up like dynamite had been used, though it was said Balerion’s fire did the same when people thought they were safe inside their castles as stone doesn’t melt (which it does hence lava/magma). But Caraxes’s long serpent like body just looks wrong where as Vhagar’s hornless head and big flappy bit of skin under her neck were disappointing to see as I wanted to see her look like Drogon but just bigger

[@canislunaticus]

Vhagar's appearance is quite realistic but I miss the fins because those made them look more airborne

[@PrototypeFreak89]

They more like wyverns than dragons. Draco from Dragon Heart was a dragon that had 4 legs.

[@Mr.Agateophile.]

The rules are different in each fantasy setting. A lot of people base their settings off D&D so the wyvern/dragon thing comes up when it really shouldn't. However, if we look to the real world "Dragon" is symply the elglish word for any giant serpintine creature. 2 legs, 4 legs, no legs, 2 wings, 4 wings, no wings All have been hystorically called Dragons, or an ancient form of the word. Aditional: the only historical distinction between Dragons and Wyverns (pronounced why-vern btw, not wi-vern) comes from historically modern heraldry, and even there they are refered to as 2 winged Dragons.

[@PrototypeFreak89]

@@Mr.Agateophile. more like drakes then?

[@yourallc-unts]

Neither existed so they are not like either..

[@neildiamond-personal9855]

This video says something wrong. Caraxes isn't part of a bread. Dragon bodies are all robust and similar. Facial features change but they are mostly similar. Caraxes is malformed and has birth defects. This is shown on how his roar is more of a shriek and his body is disproportionate. He's a more isolated dragon bcuz he is discriminated by other dragons

[@dexterrobinson4065]

Sounds like HBO is butchering the original storyline, hmm 🤔

[@agnesdianaracz]

The differenc is their wife escaped and maybe they are now on an other planet. I send the Dragon a kiss on their chest, pray to God that they dont make other dragons. They must learn loyality and eat much more sheeps and other 🐒🦖🦕🐙.

[@JBlack2991]

Yo I wanted to give this a chance, but you started off with false statements…. Aegon and his sister wives where born on Dragonstone…. Vhagar was as well….

[@analothor]

Now the real question is does this make logical sense with the dragon family tree in your other video If vhagar birthed most of these lines why don't they look like her

[@observer950]

Narrate properly please

[@eljefe3864]

Lol

[@travaughnanderson3958]

This whole video is a nithing burger

[@JocasToy]

Aena Targaryen leave vlyria freehold bring only 5 Dragon(balerion)… only 1 survive(balerion) 4 dragon death in war with army in essos bcs only targaryen at that time has dragon…so basicly only Balerion born in vlyria… and the rest of dragon hatch in dragon stone

[@yourallc-unts]

Pick up a dictionary before typing such nonsense

[@Tarnished-bn5gq]

None of them are an actual dragon (4 legs) tho.

[@joshuawebber388]

Dragons don't have four legs, if it had 4 legs it would be to heavy to fly

[@rebellious_red7123]

Evolutionary a dragon with four legs and wings doesn’t make sense or work, that’s why they went with the wyvern direction because it does make sense from an evolution standpoint

[@user-hc6nv1cf2r]

@@joshuawebber388 dragons are already very heavy to ever fly

[@mrdodo3132]

they are as they breathe fire and wyverns don't. if the author says they are dragons then they are dragons.

[@silasramsbottom6014]

They ar wvryns

[@wolverine2314]

I was disappointed with House of the Dragon show's First 3 Dragons. Especially Caraxes is very Awful look. and They all are older but smaller than Dani's 3 Dragons.

[@sunnyboyjr2611]

So you didn’t pay attention to the show then? If you did you would know the reason why her dragons were bigger

[@exp1icit]

why bother the show is Garbage

[@rayyan6401]

Give it a chance ffs

[@exp1icit]

​@@rayyan6401 I have already given two chances how many do they get? ffs

[@MMadesen]

Thats your opinion. Overall rating say otherwise.

[@Random-qi3vv]

nah, its fking great

[@rrraynoorrr]

The show is pretty good. Not as good as GoT peak but certainly really good nonetheless.

[@ramsaysnow9196]

So its obviouse that some people brought wyverns to valirya and mixed them wizh fireworms.

[@ConernicusRex]

Did legitimately made all this shit up. There are no “subspecies” 😂😂😂😂😂