The REAL Reason Jackie Chan Refused To Fight Like Bruce Lee

[@GoldenbellTraining]

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[@Dontai_]

Would like to see a video about the black belt teakwondo master jhoon Rheen and Bruce lee

[@ChrisFowler01]

Thank you for covering that accurately, I love your work. If I may ask will you ever cover anything on The Last Dragon sequal that has been in production Hades forever?!?

[@SJ-GodofGnomes21]

This was a really interesting video!

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

They did the same thing with Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson and Michael Jackson 😂 And breakfast cereals. This country is imitation crazy.

[@arthurlara4282]

Yeah I read his biography. My take on his career was that he wanted to be his own unique individual. In his earlier movies they tried to force him to be Bruce. Than he became Jackie Chan

[@BigFrankieC]

I remember an interview with Jackie, where he described facing off with a gang of 50 guys. He said Bruce's way would to be to show him loosen up, settle in, and with a look of grim determination, get ready to fight his way through 50 guys. Jackie's way is to face the same group, realize they're all coming for him, then scream and run away, then use whatever he could find to slow them down or take them down one at a time. Both are wildly entertaining.

[@ShinryuZensen]

Also, Jackie approach is more realistic. It's the closest type of reaction a simple man can have, and it proved that he, while a skilled martial artist, was not a superman , just a man who wants to survive and, maybe, keep all his teeth and limbs.

[@TheMatrixofMeaning]

​@@ShinryuZensen Jackie is more entertaining but not realistic when he's performing parkour and fighting with improvised weapons but the bad guys are more realistic swarming him and swinging with bad intentions all at once.

[@AgeofJP]

​@@TheMatrixofMeaning I'd say the *approach* is realistic with Jackie, as in the fundamental strategy to have any chance to win/escape in that situation, but the execution definetly isn't. But then again Bruce's style isn't realistic either...both require suspention of disbelief, Jackie with "boy he sure is lucky" and Bruce with "damn he is just so much better at fighting than EVERYONE else EVER". The latter seems less of a stretch only because Bruce actually Chuck Norris'ed himself into legendhood WITH his movies...people to this day believe he was an almost supernatural fighter but come on, 50 guys? Any 2v1 that involves a martial artist master against two average martial artists would be a challenge for the master at best in competiton and a lethal risk in an actual fight. Against 50 guys, you NEED copious amounts of luck and a way to confront them one by one...and regarding this I think Jackie's style is actually more realistic overall aswell, because the direct approach of fighting 50 guys head on is just impossibly unrealistic, downright fantasy, whereas Jackie shows the practically impossible in a way that's theoretically possible. Anyway, *coughᴼˡᵈᵇᵒʸ ᵈᶦᵈ ᶦᵗ ᵇᵉᵗᵗᵉʳ ᵗʰᵃⁿ ᵇᵒᵗʰcough* hmrrrmngh...that's all I had to say

[@richardelarmo8379]

Bruce N Jackie's Chandra was to entertain they both had their own styles period..😊

[@HachuneMiku01]

Bruce Lee's fights are dramatic and badass, while Jackie's fights are mostly funny and creative.

[@LanLe-rz4lm]

Having listened to things Bruce has said, and read much of Bruce Lee, Bruce would never have wanted Jackie to have been no one but himself, and to have made his own unique way, just as this video said in its conclusion.

[@SolDizZo]

Even just their personalities; Bruce Lee's intensity and mindset toward expressing practical skills on screen (the only real limitation being the framerate of the camera) could never be replicated. Jackie Chan had different, and differently valuable, skills. If Bruce Lee was still alive, he would still be number 1 in martial movie cinema.

[@LanLe-rz4lm]

@@SolDizZo He was certainly an inspiration for those coming after him. I’m sure he’d still be a legend in our time, and making ingenious breakthroughs.

[@Formakiwi]

​@@SolDizZo if Bruce Lee was still alive, he'd be 84 years old and probably unable to walk from all the crazy overtraining he undertook. His death at 33, still in his prime and at the height of his fame is a big part of why he retains a legendary status: the majority of his films are amatuerishly bad, only enlivened by his own presence, charisma and (for the time) innovative fighting style.

[@SolDizZo]

​@@Formakiwi You can't: 1: blame bad movies on the actor 2: deny a legacy being larger for having lived longer 3: dismiss the benefits of a full training regimen You actually can: 1: compare 84 year old men who never exercise with 84 year old men who train and exercise almost every day 2: compare Bruce's innovations with any of his peers 3: largely dismiss career actors over career fighters when it comes to skill / mastery of forms / economy of motion principles Jackie Chan has legitimate training, and you can learn just from watching him. However, Bruce Lee is more of a matter of being around him at all, hearing him speak, you can even learn from getting kicked by him.

[@jaimeflor4181]

I’m glad he broke expectations and paved his own unique path. In fact, his movies were fun to watch because of his dangerous stunts and unique approach to fight scenes. When I was a teen, I used to watch Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet Li.

[@MrJJA714]

Same here

[@SludgedB]

Jet Li!!

[@Marta_z_Dabrowy]

❤​@@SludgedB

[@caoinismyname]

You speak the truth!!! I love those 3 even until now.

[@TheMatrixofMeaning]

I must have watched who am I a hundred times

[@TheNumber1BSArtist]

Bruce was so important for kicking off the genre in the west because of all the things that he was. But Jackie made Asians human, not mystical, philosophical beings that had a secret way of fighting. Thank you Prince, for the high level of respect that you give them both.

[@junderwood6633]

Lol

[@daviz088]

"Made Asians human" lol, what? 😅.

[@timothyscott1951]

wrong on so many levels

[@Lee-Co]

Jackie Chan deserves no respect.

[@crazyfrogextended]

you mean boring?

[@anti1training]

Because he didnt want to become the next Bruce lee! He wanted to become the first Jackie! 💪🏼✨️

[@thetallestdwarf7041]

Exactly. He said that himself

[@dominiquepowell3158]

Oh definitely

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

And we're richer for having both

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

every time a legendary figure dies or retires they try to force imitation

[@tnshanobighost6749]

​@@Darkness-ie2ylrich people always want to do what is tried and true to make a return.

[@drfirechief8958]

Outstanding presentation. This 22 minute Jackie Chan documentary is one of the most informative things I've seen on Jackie Chan. Nice job.

[@gcolpitts92]

very eloquent and remarkable that he framed Jackie’s path in the style of jeet kune. it sent shivers down my spine

[@mojorocketman]

I worked on Rumble in the Bronx and got to hear Jackie Chan telling stories, including Jean-Claude Van Damme asking him why he doesn't shake his fists in anger after giving the death blow. He just told him that's Bruce Lee, and I'm Jackie Chan... Doing death defying stunts was also what set him apart from other action movies. It was quite a learning experience seeing him choreograph fight scenes, and stunts.

[@SA80TAGE]

I'd love to work with him just once

[@kingdavid7571]

Rumble in Vancouver.

[@virtueofabsolution7641]

So how was life as the coffee getter 😂

[@noisepuppet]

Resetting any of those fight scene sets for another take... Kind of a nightmare

[@hitthelikebutton9611]

Dope. That’s rad bro. 🍻

[@ch3ckm8]

Man Jackie was a hustler and worked super hard to get where he is now. Truly inspirational

[@Dussmasterzero]

Absolutely

[@Hexx_Iztenze]

I love both guys. In some ways, I prefer Jackie in movies. Bruce was like some unbeatable machine. Only the end boss characters really had a chance. Jackie would constantly get his butt kicked but somehow make a comeback and win the battle. He'd get hurt. He was flawed. You'd legitimately wonder if he was going to make it. They have different style and different personas. Both are enjoyable in different ways. That's how I see it anyway.

[@GoldenbellTraining]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@bumblingexpat8178]

I agree entirely. That’s why I prefer Jackie 100%. The narrative thread was far more entertaining.

[@lkw6640]

Every person must forge their own path. There will never be “the next Bruce Lee” or “the next Jackie Chan”. They are both one of a kind.

[@PlanXV]

There is Bruve chan and Jackie Lee 😅

[@mandyware7906]

well said

[@Charles-f8d]

Bruce Lee is Bruce Lee. Jackie Chan is Jackie Chan. Enough said.

[@Charles-f8d]

@@chrisdacorte9566 Define awful from your own words pertaining to Mr. Lee and Mr. Chan. I'm not sure I quite understand how you mean what you just said.

[@Konorszy]

Tony Stark is Iron Man… Ba Dum Pshhh.

[@Charles-f8d]

@@Konorszy Tony Stark and Iron Man are fictional characters. Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan played some fictional characters too, yet, I still don't see your point. Jackie Chan was stuck in the traditional sense of martial arts. Bruce Lee broke away from the classical showy fancy mess that was taught. Maybe you should read the Tao of Jeet June Do. The Tao of Gung-Fu and perhaps Bruce Lee's fighting methods. Back in those days fighting looked like fighting but it was fighting with limits and bound to rules and regulations. Learning forms and katas but without learning proper application of said techniques especially when put under pressure. Point fighting is a joke. Bruce understood that. He also refused to allow himself to be limited by rules and regulations. Bruce trained for the streets. Not a ring or an Octagon. Still, what's your point.

[@chrisdacorte9566]

@@Charles-f8d just run a quick google on jackie chan and his children. and bruce lee and how he treated people on set.

[@Charles-f8d]

@@chrisdacorte9566 My friend, I've researched these things more than you know. You gotta know the bs from the facts. People like to invent new things that were never said when Bruce was still with us but that just goes to show that these people don't care about bettering themselves or Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan or for that matter the martial arts. Why wait now to try to spew some false propaganda on Mr. Lee? Thing is. The people saying Bruce and Jackie were awful people now are mostly the millennials who just started digging a little bit but haven't even made it anywhere close to the top of the iceberg. Not only those individuals but the egotistical ones who were students of Bruce but didn't want to admit it until their later years. I can speak so confidently on this subject not as a fan or because of reading or hearing what other people claim they know but actually testing my own mind, body and spirit under changing circumstances. There is opportunity all around. It usually doesn't just fall in your lap. We must apply ourselves like it truly matters, any less than that, then you are only robbing yourself. I could tell you what I was taught and how many years I put in and all the sparring I did or the fights I've won or lost, but, you must ask yourself, why does it truly matter to you.

[@RolandDeschain1]

Jackie normally never wants to talk about it. His standard answer to the question is "Bruce kick high. I kick low. Not the same!"

[@MC7791]

Glad he found his own path. Jackie is very innovative

[@MovieMuscle]

Got the chance to work with Jackie on The Tuxedo. He was a nice guy and fun to be around. Great video, well presented.

[@vernonmckee-gv9dp]

That's awesome that you got to work with him.

[@korniceman3000]

Thank God Jackie stayed true to himself. If he didn't, we would never get classics like the Project A/Police Story series, Drunken Master 2, Wheels On Meals, or Rumble In The Bronx and Jackie would never have had the chance to make Rush Hour, Shanghai Noon, or The Karate Kid

[@judosailor610]

"True to himself"? Used to fight for human rights and democracy in Hong Kong completely flip-flop and ended up joining the party of the regime currently trampling on human rights and democracy in Hong Kong. He's a piece of you know what.

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

​@@judosailor610 go home nafo you are drunk

[@judosailor610]

@@misterpinkandyellow74 It's all fact, bro. Google is your friend.

[@SA80TAGE]

@@judosailor610 mate anyone could put anything on the internet and you can "google it". I could set up a professional looking "news" website within a day and fake anything I wanted, even with deep fake videos and and perfectly altered pics these days.... but I guess people really will believe anything they see online these days without questioning it.

[@_M_a_r_t_i_n_M]

@@judosailor610 It honestly could simply be for the pure reason of keeping himself and his family safe and alive. Look what that very same 'party' did to Bruce Lee after becoming 'too famous' in America and it made them feel threatened. Maybe Jackie just didn't want the same to happen to him.

[@morestupidforms]

A bit unfair on Bolo Yeung, he may have got his break from Enter the Dragon, but he did very well for himself, very talented in his own right. Iconic for his era.

[@randyc8406]

Yes, he was already making his mark, both in films, & body building. And, like 99% of Asian stars of that era, got that “Bruce boost”, that made them worldwide stars

[@TheOriginalRick]

If he was a skinny guy he never would have been heard from again. 😁😁

[@grimm00002]

What many fail to realize is that the old, balding, final boss of Kung Fu Hustle is Bolo Yeung himself.

[@splatt3d]

He was truly scary. There are very few actors that have that kind of presence on film.

[@aspreedacore]

@@grimm00002celebrate good times, KUNG FU🎉

[@richyakuoko2360]

Great video Prince!! Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Bruce Lee said in the lost interview with Pierre ( i forgot his last name) that to be one's true self is hard. Not lying to yourself but to be your true self. Not just to impress people but to be real. He said he could show us all the different styles but to be honest with yourself that's hard to do. And that's what happened to Jackie Chan because of how iconic Bruce Lee became. Especially after his death. So the directors wanted to find the next Bruce Lee. It wasn't until Jackie Chan expressed his frustration and was giving the opportunity to be himself. That he became a superstar in his own right. Movies like Police Story, Drunken Master, Winners and Sinners are all legendary movies. Jackie Chan created the action comedy. Before movies like Beverly Hills Cop there was Drunken Master. Serious action but also comedic. Perhaps Police Story was influenced by Beverly Hills Cop. Im not sure but there were no action comedies that had serious action. So Jackie Chan made a great decision to follow his own path. The king of action comedies.

[@randyc8406]

Wrong. That genre has been around a long time, just not outside Asian markets. It’s why you can’t find many pre 80s Asian ‘Kung fu’ films, that are subbed/dubbed. And, the few you can, the translations are so bad, that the dialogues make the whole film a confusing mess!

[@petermarchi1935]

I think Bruce and Jackie are two diffrent people, I remember when I receved my Dan rank, my instructor stressed the point "It's not what the belt brings to the man, but what the man brings to the belt." Both Bruce and Jackie have/had their own style and thats not a bad thing!

[@alwaystheone]

Bruce Lee fan all the way but it's great that Jackie Chan found his own path in the movie business. Just like DMX said that he was the first X not the next Tupac when it comes to rap music.

[@kerry-j4m]

Dmx was a true thug too,he was out on them streets robbing folks with a pit bull. If it wasn't for him getting in the rap game,X would've eventually been in jail or dead.

[@wadesmart6708]

You are a great storyteller, calm voice without all the hype to make a point! Just got hip to you and love your work so far!

[@jerelminter]

It's because there were already a million Bruce Lee wannabes. Jackie, didn't wanna be part of that, because he would've been perceived as another Bruce Lee wannabe. He decided, he was gonna be Jackie Chan.

[@theorulez]

*I love how you break it down and provide a well thought out narrative while showing us a perspective that isn't just trying to get attention by pitting one side vs the other. Like in the videos where it says 'Jackie Chan rejected Bruce Lee's style'. You painted the struggles and personal turmoil Jackie had to go through while financially struggling and finding his own path through fame and becoming successful. Truly an amazing video and well worth the watch for anyone looking to learn more about their favorite action stars. I'm glad I was able to check this out and hopefully viewers from the future sit through and open their minds to ways they too can grow through innovation, vs imitation. Much love.*

[@Inspiredteacher1]

I was born in the sixties, and in the seventies, I grew up on Bruce Lee. I understand though why Jackie Chan saw it best to be authentic to himself and to pave his own way into the industry and like it was said, there's only one Bruce Lee, period.

[@thegzak]

Funny enough I’m the other way around, I grew up first on Jackie Chan, then finally got around to seeing Bruce Lee. Their styles were polar opposites, but for entertainment value I gotta hand it to Jackie!

[@Inspiredteacher1]

@@thegzak It's about tastes. Though I like Chan a lot, I have always preferred non-fiction. Bruce Lee's movies just seem to represent a deeper sense of real life. Again, nothing to diminish Chan's works.

[@virtueofabsolution7641]

Eh I prefer Ip Guy

[@Guile1117]

​@Inspiredteacher1 a deeper sense of real life? So him fighting and beating 50 guys at once, was real to you 😅

[@Inspiredteacher1]

@@Guile1117 it's art. It's not always absolute. It is the situations or circumstances and the characters reactions and responses to issues that was more genuine.

[@simbaking6338]

Thats what made them legends...Like u said...its not about immitation but more about innovation. Thats what Jackie did. He refused to have a career hiding behind Bruce Lee's shadow. He eventually found his own niche, A life lesson to be learnt here regarding how to be succesful/

[@bobbycoltrane7552]

Two sides of the same coin and I'm thankful for both of them.

[@missmorena1049]

There’s NO comparison!

[@BDSquirrel]

@@missmorena1049 In their own spirit finding their own ways in life, yes there is. Your problem is that you look at the shallow pool and call it an ocean because you can hear the ocean. While the ocean is but a little bit of a walk away and making all the noise.

[@nealfryling619]

Very cool “deep dive”… probably the most neutral and respectful comparison of these two martial arts film legends as humanly possible…!!! Thank you!

[@Schubeedoobee]

My first theatrical movie experience in the late 1960 early 1970 was Five Fingers of Death... and it completely enthralled me.

[@hbomb3780]

I saw 5 fingers of death in the theater,154th and Broadway,snuck in thinking it was a horror movie and was blown away. Greatest Kung fu movie ever!!!

[@yosh_2024]

Both are legends... and we are fan of both! Thank you for bringing all these details... ,🙂

[@Friedbrain11]

I stopped watching any kind of "kung fu" movies after Bruce Lee died. It was many years later before I finally watched a Chan movie. Glad he found his way though as his movies are at times funny as Hell and the stunt work is really great. No one can replace Bruce Lee and I think Chan realized this and knew he had to go in a different direction. For that, we get some good and entertaining movies.

[@arborinfelix]

Some regular guy: "I waited in a line to get an autograph from Bruce Lee" Studio executive: "That's the experience and close relationship with Bruce Lee we are looking for. Here is your contract for 5 movies"

[@MarquisLeary34]

One of the real tragedies of the whole Bruce-sploitation was that there were likely a lot of legit talented martial artists and actors who could have made it if they weren't being pigeonholed into just a Bruce lookalike. Testimony to Jackie's raw talent that he was able to break away from that straitjacketing. Also very cool seeing where John Woo and Jackie's paths crossed.

[@RaphaelChan888]

This is such a thorough, detailed and well-researched video essay on these legends and their careers

[@ramondiaz2851]

That is what Bruce would want his own son Brandon to do ! To be yourself & do not imitate another!!

[@TheJoker-yu5ds]

And the HK directors wanted him to be like his Father. Chan wai man allegedly slapped Brandon because Brandon wanted to be his own person...

[@ramondiaz2851]

@@TheJoker-yu5ds wow!!! That is crazy!!

[@revariox189]

@@TheJoker-yu5ds It woiuld have been interesting to see Brandon as a developped actor. I feel his martial skills were never really properly used or he didn't get to shine with the appropriately in the short career he had. Unfortunate as, I think we were all expecting a lot (too much) out of him simply for having Bruce as a father. The blood thing is and has always been very strong, thinking that one is like the other because they share the same blood is contrairy to epigenetics. The eternal question of Memes Vs Genes....

[@elfatkin7103]

This is true Too bad he paid for it with his life as well. He was as good as his dad was.

[@PlanXV]

​@revariox189 what about look syk walker and andandin through vader 😊

[@McGrumpus]

Both people are legends in their own time, and most importantly, each in their own way. Thanks for presenting this clearly!

[@thulegrau]

Both of them are great actors and warriors as I can say it so. Both of them deserve respect.

[@nalabatch]

1:08 dont forget Jet Lee and Donnie Yen

[@acvibes1703]

I instantly least thought of jet lee he would kick Jackie Chans butt😅

[@orisisseibert3507]

And Samo Hung, Chow Yun-Fat

[@Wickedous]

Sure but this video isnt about them.

[@orisisseibert3507]

@@Wickedous in the honorably mentions...

[@Corrigan65_]

First off: Shout out to who I believe is the unsung hero and perhaps harbinger of parkour; Jackie Chan

[@ronyYTube]

Great video, and a great reminder that you need to find your own path to become really free. Just one thing is missing from this video: the reason that Jackie Chan became such a huge superstar. And that's when he moved behind the camera, and made his legendary Police Story movie. That movie showed that not only Jackie Chan can direct a successful movie, but he can be a serious and dramatic actor and not just a funny acrobat.

[@andyperez2742]

Amazing video!!! You dud such an incredible job at the research involved. I can always count on you for a Good In Depth, No Nonsense, video on Bruce Lee. It was quite the surprise for me to see you dive into the Past of Jackie Chan. Im so glad you kept it in a positive nature as i have seen many negative toned videos on Jacki Chan as of late. Thank you for making this video on these 2 great men. Keep up the amazing work!!

[@willsourdoe]

Both men, Lee & Chan, embodied excellence within separate styles & different philosophies of film making. It is a disservice to both to compare their approaches. Bruce's dedication to classic fighting technique and Jackie's commitment to comedic theater are unparalleled.

[@johnpittsii7524]

Thanks for the amazing video ❤️

[@meredithunit]

You do an incredible job, sir! Subscribed!

[@terrydondaneau4115]

always the best work, good work, you know how to do your homework, outstanding!!! stuff. never miss your stuff.

[@MartinezEvulvE]

I cannot believe that was 22 minutes, you packed so much information in and have a great cadence and voice that it felt like I enjoyed an hour long documentary. Very good work!

[@alanwatts5445]

In one way, Jackie Chan was very much like Bruce Lee. Lee refused to put anything on film he couldn't do himself. No wires, no special editing, no special camera speeds, no special effects. I find it ironic that the only follower of this value in martial arts movies was Chan, whose style is so different. Chan did everything you see on film and he has the broken bones to prove it. In one film he had to finish it with his foot in a cast painted to look like a tennis shoe because he broke his foot doing a stunt. No wires, no special editing, no special camera speeds, no special effects. If he couldn't do it, it didn't go on film.

[@randyc8406]

Wrong. Michelle Yeoh has always had the same philosophy

[@maidiep166]

Love your analyses and the documentary ! All the best videos for years to come ! Thank you !

[@MegaWeeTam]

Another great vid brother, nobody does it better.

[@Chopstix-c7n]

The best description of Bruce Lee and Jacky Chan I have ever heard. Finally someone that really understands Bruce Lee’s fighting it’s direct and for combat and the films doesn’t do it justice while Jacky Chan’s is for show and film not for real combat . Great video!

[@wearblackclothes]

Bruce lee had a serious tune. Jackie chan looked whimsical and fun. Humble even.

[@TheSwiftFalcon]

I grew up on Jackie Chan movies, I am so glad he found his own path. I remember him telling a story about that one time he and Bruce Lee went bowling. Bruce Lee was a big star, and everyone in the bowling alley was excited that they saw him there. I wonder if years later, some of them realized that they had seen Bruce Lee AND Jackie Chan.

[@Cereberal]

Thanks for making this video. There's so much that I didn't even know, but I've always loved both of them. This was highly respectful and educational. : )

[@ObservantPiratePlus]

Excellent video! I think that every martial artist, when they learn and adapt what they learn into a personal fighting style, in a way creates their own "Jeet Kune Do". The more you learn and innovate, the more formidable an opponent you become, as you are unpredictable.

[@johnschuler4816]

Great video, and made me want to watch BOTH their movies!

[@brianschuetz2614]

I love watching Bruce Lee movies because of his approach to martial arts. I love watching Jackie Chan because he successfully blended martial arts and acrobatics with humor. Two very different personalities, both admirable and entertaining to watch. I'm glad Jackie was able to successfully forge his own path. I also enjoy the movies that Jet Li has been in.

[@Kerats]

What a fantastic video your narration is great I wish your channel all the best!

[@heavysystemsinc.]

Jackie Chan's history is interesting as much as Bruce Lee's. Both of their stories are basically legend at this point, finding out the truth is impossible. All we know is Bruce Lee put martial arts movies on the map and Jackie Chan showed how far they could be taken.

[@michaelluong6484]

Truly excellent video essay. Glad the algorithm put me onto you! Subscribed!

[@bernardwilliams4071]

Excellent video Raymond Chow who worked with both Bruce and Jackie. He said Bruce was very direct you knew what you were getting with him. Jackie the secret to his success is his comedy besides his amazing ability. Jackie himself said his first 10 years in film were terrible and hard for him. But he stayed with it until he got that chance to be himself. His training at the famous opera school hardships is what makes him still to this day in his 70s still going strong. I don't think we will ever see another talent like Bruce and Jackie ever again. And no Jackie could not beat Bruce in a fight MJW said he could. Jackie himself said no Bruce would beat me easily if they both were in there Primes. Glad Jackie found his way and we got to see his amazing talents to Martial Arts Cinema. And not another wasted talent. Makes you wonder how many guys could have shown what they could do if they were not being forced into those Bruce Lee roles.

[@seeyouauntie]

I dont know who you are, or how you ended up on my YT feed, but as a huge Bruce and Jackie fan, I certainly am glad I found you. Cheers. Edit: in all honesty, I'm just a fan of the Martial Arts movie genre in general, especially the movies from the 70's and 80's

[@Zan_Jayna]

Bruce always said that his movie moves were the opposite of what he'd do in a real life fight. Stop acting like his movie moves are his real moves.

[@concac314]

He had to slow down his move Many people think Bruce wasn’t fast lol

[@michaelborror4399]

Pretty good, but neither one made very good spikey bracers like crane though.

[@anti1training]

@concac314 That's a myth. He was an actor and martial artist. He made the choreography. Choreography, acting and martial arts use rhythm. He knew what would have been too fast to keep up with.

[@concac314]

@@anti1training lol so the man scammed people 50 years ago? So Bruce is evil lol

[@truth2you]

​@@anti1training And you know all of that because you were right there standing beside him on the movie set, right? Please go sit down because you probably weren't even born yet when Bruce Lee died🤨

[@metrinstoefta1490]

thank you for such an informative and clearly told story. this has to be the most enjoyable bio I've encountered on youtube.

[@TJ_Kat]

Thank you Jackie Chan for persevering until people realized you didn't need to be Bruce Lee; that being Jackie Chan was pretty awesome too.

[@thetalantonx]

I seriously love your videos. Insightful and entertaining. Thanks for continuing to bring passionate inquiry and a playful style to the subject we all enjoy.

[@patrickmoreau7592]

This is a great video My favorite movie from Jackie is Rumble in the Bronx

[@ostateblazer1712]

I don’t know how this video came across my feed, but I’m glad it did!

[@willydstyle]

I had no idea that Jackie Chan had early-career movies with Yuen Wo Ping and John Woo, legends in their own rights who also took things in their own directions and changed action cinema world wide.

[@scottallen6160]

This was a well thought out and presented video. The comparisons that showcased their uniqueness and the common ground they shared were enlightening. This video paid respects to both men as artists and innovators. You did your homework. I really liked this. Thank you.

[@InfamousGFox]

Can someone tell me what the name of the movie is at 4:34? Thank you.

[@garrettmiles1483]

The Protector with Tony Jaa

[@InfamousGFox]

@garrettmiles1483 Thank you, I know that movie. I meant the one with the woman. But I found it the other day, it's called Chocolate.

[@Littlestrawberryfox]

Fantastic Video, you also have a great voice. The video very well illustrated the differences of these 2 amazing actors and fighters thank you for the well timed infodump. 🦊💜🦊

[@bennyaruba3449]

Great video!

[@Rascal77s]

When I saw this video in my recommendations, I didn't expect the quality of this report. You truly did an excellent job and greatly exceeded my expectations. A very informative and well executed video. My congratulations and thanks 🍻

[@waynetech10]

Love them both. Growing up, loving and training in martial arts, naturally there would be people that asked me who I liked better and who I thought would win. I never saw why. I got something different, watching them, and both inspired me to keep training, along with characters like Batman, the TMNT, MMPR, etc. Don't get me wrong. I do like the action movies, from the US. My dad and I would watch the Dirty Harry movies, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard and the like, but martial arts films spoke to me, particularly Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan outings. It's possible to like both, and I'm glad we got a unique performer in Jackie Chan, instead of just parroting Bruce Lee. It'd be like the Justice League, but everyone is just copying Superman or Batman.

[@Guile1117]

When I was growing up, me and my friends would always say would win in a fight, Jet Li or Jackie Chan, they were both really big in the 90s and early 2000s

[@mezmir]

i love this video, jackie deserves all this love and understanding. Thank you for making such a clear and well thought out piece dedicated to clarifying the differences (and misunderstandings) between two legends and showing why they're BOTH great!

[@elfatkin7103]

“Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, and it becomes the bottle.." This is my most favorite saying from Bruce Lee. In the end, that's what Jackie Chan embodied when he took over Bruce's office. To this day from when I was young. These two men were my heroes. I looked and idolized both of these men for their achievements in and out of movies and the like.

[@MarieKerns]

Thank you for diving deep into this inspiring story between Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan. Both are excellent marshal arts entertainers, and I personally respect both of them for what they represent.

[@ashleycameron1599]

I agree with Jackie. There will never be another one of you. So do you to the best of your ability.

[@bmartin7961]

Thank you for this, I love both Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan, the latter more so due to the more holistic connection that he creates...But, you Sir, have done both the most fantastic justice in this material. Thank you. First time viewer, liked and subscribed.

[@JosephArata]

Jackie is a national treasure. He brought the world action comedy movies that can be relatable to all ages.

[@Sarutaru06]

Multi-national treasure.* There's more than one.

[@r2dxhate]

He was a good guy until the CCP corrupted him. Now he's a pos

[@judosailor610]

@@Sarutaru06. He's no treasure to me. He switched from fighting for rights and democracy to literally joining "the party" of one of the worst totalitarian regimes on the planet.

[@riotron1026]

@@judosailor610This.

[@Guile1117]

​@judosailor610 he's just a guy that supports his Country, same with Jet Li, I remember when him and Jackie and other famous kung fu stars, started in that Chinese propaganda film about the Chinese Civil War

[@TigerShark316]

This is an amazing mini documentary! I’m a fan of both, and this was fantastic!

[@mike1967sam]

I gave up martial arts at 18 after 9 years and embraced music. I wonder if you were named after Prince. There are so many people that don't understand Prince's genius, even Eric Clapton called him a master. People who simply liked his music had no idea what an unbelievable guitarist he was.

[@GoldenbellTraining]

No, I wasn't named after Prince Rogers Nelson.

[@jaimeflor4181]

@@mike1967sam Music also became my main thing after several years in martial arts. Although I still stretched and practiced to stay in shape.

[@YinOfYangEnlighten]

A man who played multiple instruments at a high level, sang like a mf, wrote his own songs, produced his own songs, AND even wrote songs for other big artists. Prince was truly a genius in every sense of the word. He fully embraced music and artistry.

[@batman.darthmaul]

@@YinOfYangEnlighten It's unfortunate that artists with quite a bit of talent and also have a strong public image are often overlooked as serious artists. Their image usually overshadows their abilities and people take them less seriously.

[@dimitri877]

What an excellent piece of real journalism this is! So refreshing these days!

[@sephirostoy]

The REAL reason was because he wanted its own character in Tekken franchise (Lei Wulong) different from Bruce (Marshall Law).

[@kahekilimaui450]

Wow! Beautiful documentary! Well done, with an outstanding narrative quality. You have yourself another subscriber and Like. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your content. Bravo 👏

[@2Deenice2]

Thanks for educating us

[@GoldenbellTraining]

Thanks for watching 👍

[@richardswaby6339]

I don't have the words to express the excellence of your narration style, your selection of appropriate clips, your time-lining and every thing else that you put into this video. You are phenomenal.

[@jamesdaniel3326]

Chan was the innovator of choreographed fight scenes. This changed the business significantly.

[@pillarofdavidson]

Great essay!

[@HouseOfSynister]

This was an amazing breakdown, thank you my brotha, I'm subscribing and watching more! Keep it up!

[@lukevaichus]

2:04 i think you meant "honing"

[@franklee1205]

😅 Great back story - Great motivation to, as Shakespeare said, " This above all be true to thine own self".. Bruce, Jackie, Stallone, innovators AND motivators at the highest levels in their fields. - Thank you.. 🙏💖✌️😌

[@jobymanuel1353]

I'm not trying to dis anyone with this comment, but I remember an interview where Michael Jai White said Jackie could beat Bruce because Jackie is a little bigger than Lee. I just had to role my eyes because of how ridiculous that claim is given that Bruce always spared and fought fighters bigger than him, while Jackie trained in only stunt fighting.

[@1SciFiGeek508]

MJW has made a lot of really stupid comments about martial arts. Wish he'd just stick to making movies

[@simplesimon755]

This was a great video, so informative and you made some great points. I am a big fan of both but I wasn't aware of a lot of Jackie Chan's earlier career efforts. I really appreciated your philosophical summary at the end too. I gladly subscribed. Cheers

[@Guile1117]

I liked Drunken master, the eatting scene, is the scene that inspired Akira to make Goku to eat alot

[@Diabloshell]

One of my favs

[@markottaway6899]

I found this to be a really well thought out, detailed explaination. Without any repetition or overly detailed explanations just for more advertising revenue, as I have seen on other Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan videos.

[@Kevincarlloven]

Its easy--Jackie Chan was Buster Keaton, and Bruce Lee was John Wayne--thats the reason.

[@tapiolautavaara9532]

Thank You. I was desperately searching if someone made the Buster-connection. Such a rarity for anyone to make constant progress and innovation, relentlessly pushing the art of cinema ever new heights by fearlessly throwing thmeselves into life threatening stunts over and over again, never letting constant injuries to bring them down.

[@Marco_di_Martino]

I appreciate the quality of your narration!

[@ZimCrusher]

Bruce Lee was a Martial Artist. Jackie Chan was an acrobat entertainer, who used martial arts movements. There is a difference between stunts (screen fights) and real fighting where you don't know what your opponent is going to do. I've sparred with many stuntmen, and fight designers, on set, and you'd be surprised at how many awesome looking fighters, can not even do slow, light touch, sparring.

[@carlct]

Yes, every Hong Konger from my parent’s generation would tell us the same thing. Jackie Chan is just a stuntman. These HK stuntmen often got decimated by Bruce Lee on set.

[@ZimCrusher]

@@carlct "Hong Konger from my parent’s generation" "Jackie Chan is just a stuntman." And singer. If they are from HK, then they must have some of his many many albums. I think he has more albums than Jay Chou.

[@carlct]

@@ZimCrusher You have confused Jackie Chan with Jacky Cheung. I did have many Jacky Cheung’s songs with me. They were classic. For Jackie Chan, I used to enjoy his movies when I was young but his personality was a gigantic turn-off for me. There’s no way I would keep anything relating to him now..

[@seresamgala8125]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR/ENTERTAINER, failed martial artist who failed completing his fancy-pants, privileged, once-in-a-lifetime closed-doors Wing Chun training. He has no complete training in any style and has nothing to show but smoke. Chan did the stunts Lee couldn't dream of performing.

[@ZimCrusher]

@@seresamgala8125 That's like calling Chuck Norris an Actor/Entertainer. People can do many things in life, and they move through different stages. Bruce Lee never officially fought, true. Some 'no cameras allowed' crap does not count. Chuck fought in numerous pro bouts, yet both had martial arts skills. Bruce did fight many times on set with cast members, and stuntmen. There is a lot of documentation of that, so he did have skills. Bruce started a Fight school, and a Fighting Style, that lives to this day. He made a huge impact on martial arts, and on fight scenes in movies. I would not call that 'nothing but smoke'. Jackie Chan started a stuntman school. 2 very different points of focus. Granted... Steven Segal started a fight school, but .... his impact on martial arts was a flash in the pan. I would put Jet Li in with Jackie Chan. Both are acrobats with martial arts skills, that never really fought in any instance that has been recorded. Both put out great films. All 3 made a big impact on fights in cinema, and martial arts in general. Even if they are not Randy Cultur, or Mike Tyson.

[@jerrygonzalez2180]

Highly informative.. I’ve always been a fan of Bruce’s & Jackie’s.. Thx for the deep dive (learned a lot).

[@nicholastotoro7721]

Severin put out a nice box set called "Game of Clones" about the Brucesploitation era that is really well done! Bruce Li... Bruce Le... oof...

[@jaimeflor4181]

@@nicholastotoro7721 I used to call Bruce Li “Bruce Lie.” Partly because I remember renting 1 of those movies, only to realize it was an actor mimicking Bruce Lee.

[@SifuRudyuniversalkungfu]

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