The Reason Christianity is Dying in the West

Have you ever noticed that there is a correlation between the amount something has cost you and the value you place on it? Let me give you an example. I own two pairs of shoes that are almost identical. I had been looking for this exact style for a long time but I couldn’t find it until one day I was walking through a department store and there they were hanging on a rack as if they were a clearance item. I went to take a look at them and then checked the price tag. They were selling them for $20. I was shocked and instead of excitement at what a great find this was, my reaction was to immediately start wondering what was wrong with them. Was this some sort of attempt to appeal to a lower end market with crappy quality or something? I never did get my answer so I just went ahead and bought them, but the feeling that I was getting something cheap and unworthy was nagging me.
After using the shoes for a couple weeks, I found that they were holding up well and were comfortable so I decided to go back to the store and buy like a life time supply of them because they were almost too good to be true. When I got there I was startled to discover that they were selling them now for $80.
I couldn’t make sense of it. Maybe someone had mislabeled the pair I had originally bought or something. So, I decided to pick up another pair that was almost the same but slightly different for that same $80 price tag.
Since then, I’ve noticed something strange. Of the two pairs of shoes I’ve been really diligent in the way I take care of the ones that cost me $80 and the ones that cost me $20… not so much. I wore them camping and got caught in a rain storm, I dropped a piece of juicy watermelon on them about a week ago, and just before that I wore them for a visit out to my Aunt and Uncle’s farm and if you’ve never been to a farm before, let me just say… there’s a lot of pooping that goes on there.
The reason for this disparity seems pretty obvious to me. Because this pair only cost me $20, I’ve carried an unshakable sense that they are only worth $20 even though I later found out that they were worth a lot more. That hasn’t influenced my behaviour towards them, however; because at the end of the day, they only cost me $20.
I think that stands as a powerful analogy for why Christianity has been on such a dramatic decline in western culture. The last 50 years have been characterized by a trend of relaxation in practices and teachings of the faith by it’s leaders. We’ve seen some dramatic examples, especially in mainline Protestantism, in which there have been complete reversals on moral teachings. While that hasn’t happened in the official teachings of the Catholic Church, we’ve seen a disregard for the disciplines and practices.
For example, in Canada, we used to be expected to attend mass on feast days of the liturgical calendar but they’ve since just moved those all over to the nearest Sunday. Many churches don’t even have kneelers any more because, I don’t know, we don’t want to be uncomfortable? Pro tip, that was the entire point of having kneelers. And instead of fasting during Lent, we’re often encouraged to just do something nice for somebody. I can understand the instinct for doing this. I think well intentioned pastors believed that aspects of the faith were too difficult for the faithful and so if we compromise and accommodate, we’ll retain members but what they essentially did, was reduced the cost of what it means to be a Christian. So the result has been a startling decline in affiliation and practice. In Europe, it’s even worse. They’re anticipating the complete disappearance of some denominations within the next few decades.
My investment in my faith has cost me so much and transformed me in undeniable ways that it would be really hard for me to let go of because I’d have to admit that it was all for nothing. But had I not felt the need to invest myself as much as I have, I’d likely be able to walk away from it quite casually and easily.
In the case of Christianity, this makes sense. After all, the symbol of our faith is an ancient method of torture and execution and Jesus said that following him would be like picking up your own cross as he did. Being a Christian isn’t supposed to be easy so if we continue to attempt to draw people in by reducing the cost of what it means to be a Christian, we’ll continue to set people up for disappointment by a counterfeit religion that does little to impact their lives.
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[@BrianHoldsworth]

There have been a few comments from people claiming that the real reason for Christianity's decline is because of the spread of science. I've, since, made a video that addresses that topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3zSo56Bn6pqsKM

[@teutonic7113]

Brian Holdsworth - I agree completely. The church has lost its worth by diluting its messaging and tradition. It also lacks the education of its adult members to engage them in the catechism. Once you complete CCD, you're pretty much on your own.

[@esprit-critique]

And you are right about the strong tie between "modern science " and Christian theology as Rodney Stark (has explained in many books. One of the best on that topic is " For the Glory of God". And your explanation of the decline of Christianity in the West is very similar to the one Starks gives in one of his books. Bravo. You are doing a good job and I really like your videos. Although I have moved away from all the requirements of Christianity, I have fond memories of my Christian upbringing and it continues to influence my behavior often. And I am appalled by the incredible present ingratitude towards Christianity to which the West owes so much. Fortunately, researchers of the importance of Rodney Stark have begun to open our eyes and remind us of certain historical realities. He certainly helped to change my view of Christianity.

[@christophekeating21]

Brian Holdsworth if your main argument: a religion that costs more is more successful were true, then Scientology actually would be the fastest growing religion in the world.

[@BrianHoldsworth]

It would if that were the entirety of my argument. This video is aimed, primarily, at a Christian audience, who has already adopted the notion that Christianity is true. So, it s the pairing of truth with the diligence of not watering down that truth that I'm arguing for here, in which case, the Scientology analogy doesn't work.

[@christophekeating21]

Ok, right. Then I mostly agree. I would also say that it's when Christianity is not the cultural norm that it truly shines. I live in France, and I can see the dying out of much of the nominal cultural Roman Catholic world, and the living growth of Protestant Evangelical Churches, despite all of the cultural pressures against them. As the rabbi Gamaliel said, if it isn't of God, it will come to nothing.

[@Steven-se5jd]

I went to a Christian private school as an international student in Chicago from 2008 - 2011. I had a horrible experience. For me, they are just a bunch of hypocrites. They can do all the big talk they want, but at the end of the day, action speak louder than words.

[@aaronruss6331]

What kind of argument is that? You expect them to be perfect and if there not perfect they are not allowed to make moral judgements? Hoe about any decision or judgement? Emotional?logical? Moral? Should they not be allowed to make it because they are human? Also what does that have to do with christ or the bible?

[@blackmamba9950]

​@@aaronruss6331of course they are fallible but you can't discount the fact that the lessons from fallible people who don't walk the talk are often overlooked or not taken seriously

[@Gofishefurwitz]

@@aaronruss6331 cope

[@doctoryowan]

Partially true: however, sexual and financial scandals too have played a dramatic role in eroding Church membership. The clergy ( especially Catholic) has lost much of its previous prestige. Not even the most traditionalist groups seem scandal- free nowadays

[@samanthastudios618]

The sad thing: Its the way the culture has seeped into everything. Disgusting.

[@mongolianfishingvillages1371]

Islam will surpass christianity by 2035 as Christianity is dominant in places like Europe who's females are having less children

[@cocococo8081]

@@arolemaprarath6615 My point is that you were just assuming a whole lot of stuff which makes your estimate possibly inaccurate. But yeah I don't really have a good idea of either number of practicing Muslims or Christians.

[@jamescam04]

@C Xtzin The OC is too liberal on marriage for me. At least *in theory* Rome isn’t, appallingly lax as it is in practice. I’m not convinced changelessnness is an ideal for a Church, though failthfulness to what one has received.

[@jamescam04]

@@arolemaprarath6615 “Christian” countries will probably become Mahometan, while some Mahometan countries go atheistic. Atheism is probably where all countries will end up eventually, in the long run. And by then, Christianity will likely be long forgotten. All things die eventually - including religions. The question is whether these things happen in cycles. One of the recent developments is the revival of ancient pre-Christian religions - I wonder what will become of them. But once RCism dies, it can’t possibly come back, unless it is willing to drop/re-interpret its understanding of its doctrine of its Apostolicity & perpetuity & visibility. At present, it can with some show of plausibility claim to be in direct institutional continuity with the Church of the Apostles - if the CC ever dies, that continuity will be over, severed, done for, dead.

[@ekulio]

I think there is truth to this idea - as someone whose whole life was built around my faith for 33 years and was incredibly invested before losing my faith, I would say that yes, the more you're invested in a belief or practice the harder it is to walk away. I spent two years trying to convince myself it was true, begging God to reveal himself to me and show me he was there. However, I wouldn't say this is the reason people are leaving. I think the spread of information, especially via the internet, is really the root cause.

[@davidbolen8982]

Completely agree. People want truth and facts. Most of humanity will always wonder about life after death, god, profits, transcendence, but passing “one religion,” as “the truth,” is somewhat childish and creepy. I’ve been praying most of my life, but never accepted any religious version of god as anything but man made fables adopted from older man made fables. I have no idea what I am praying to, but don’t really care. The simple act of prayer to be better, for all people to be better, more content and peaceful, seems to work wonders.

[@Musashination]

@@davidbolen8982 Chesterton mate.

[@KehindeAdeoya]

I just went to a church today, and appalled how empty it is. I presently live in Hilversum, Netherlands. This is not only happening in the West, it's creeping into Africa as well.

[@masklotos1627]

Try the mosque

[@addeade231]

Where in Africa are you from?

[@7788Sambaboy]

thank god!

[@Xaviallin1]

Christianity has officially reached its peak. Now it is going down as time passes

[@charlottexroyalty7819]

So you are apalled that people can educate themselves on topics like Evolution and therefore stop believing in these ridiculous fairy tales?

[@stevenvelez1717]

I’m not Catholic, but this is exactly what Jordan Peterson brings up with Bishop Barron in their recent talk a couple of weeks ago. It’s so interesting but true.

[@JoshMcSwain]

It's true. Making it too easy. It's an odd balance to strike because I think the church wants all people to know they can come to Christ as they are. But what happens next?

[@karenc2844]

Sadly, Bishop Barron is part of the watering down of our faith... instead of promoting "hope" we can all make it to heaven he should be teaching the road is narrow, and I would argue that if all it took was a little bit of hope, Jesus' excruciating death was unnecessary.... but it wasn't...His excruciating death was necessary bc our sins were, are, and will continue to be so offensive to God, and are leading us down the wide road and Bishop Barron's soft stand on this subject is doing nothing to properly shepherd his flock, for which, sadly, he will suffer as well as those who are listening to him.

[@vivacristorey8302]

Two of my favorite people

[@antoniogracia719]

Christianity will never be over it'll be fulfilled.

[@Odo-so8pj]

Please stay away from the false prophet.

[@bprocks07]

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[@dowhateverfree]

I REMEMBER THE TIME THAT IT MAD ME LAUGH. AND HOW DID OUR EYES GET SO RED? AND WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ON JIMMY'S HEAD

[@bprocks07]

@@dowhateverfree lolz holy shit i forgot all about this video. thank you for your comment and bringing me back to this so i coul--- THIS IS WHERE I WENT TO SCHOOL I NEVER SOMETHIN-SOMETHIN-SOMETHIN BEEN THAT COOL...AND SOMEONE SAID SOMETHIN-SOMETHIN IN HIGHSCHOOL THEN, AND WHAT THE HELL IS STILL ON JIMMY'S HEAD OOOOOOOHHHHH EVERY MEMORY LOOKIN OUT THE FROONT DOOOOOOORRRRRR

[@wpprodpyc9266]

LMAO

[@xDELFYonceagain]

Why is this so funny? 😂

[@bprocks07]

@@xDELFYonceagain it’s just universal law ... it MUST be funny therefore it IS funny 😏

[@economiabohemia]

Very happy to have found this channel. Thank you for your insight and knowledge. God bless you and yours.

[@MarinaPier77]

You have a gift for teaching. Thanks for your preparedness in speaking on important topics. Love the channel.

[@albazi4745]

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[@nicholasdefilippis6186]

I know I'm late to the game on this, but here is my input. My family is Catholic. I grew up Catholic. But my family didn't take it all that seriously. The church I went to didn't do a good job of educating children about what Catholics actually believe. When I was 16 I fell away. I didn't set foot in a Catholic church for 12 years at least. I didn't even really know what Christians believed. Why? Because the loudest Christian voices I heard weren't educated, theologically trained people. No, no. They were the type of people who would show up on college campuses waving signs about how you're going to hell if you don't believe EXACTLY as they do. All I heard was "so and so musician sold their soul to the devil, their music is Satanic." That sort of crazy stuff. And because I wasn't properly educated, I thought pretty much all of Christianity was the same and they only really differed on the Pope or Purgatory. It wasn't until my mid 20s that I realized "Protestant" was an umbrella term for all kinds of different churches. I honestly thought there was a leader of all the Protestants and there were church buildings that just said "Protestant Church" on them. If you want to stop the decline of Christianity, start educating people better. Then get a larger megaphone for the theologically trained and educated types so they can drown out the crazies who keep telling everyone they're going to hell for dying their hair.

[@lydiapetra1211]

There's the Bible... God's Inerrant Word.... people need to study it...not expect others to teach them! Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own souls and lives.

[@nicholasdefilippis6186]

@@christiankhoury9343 I considered coming back last year, but I decided to join the Eastern Orthodox Church instead. I don't want to go back to Catholicism after the way my family treated me growing up. I don't want to be reminded of them, and I don't want to make them happy.

[@heroesgrantorino]

Id argue its the history actually, the church has always supported the war spreaders. Did the church get in their way? Did they protest? Or did they simply call it God's work like all the pedophiles who work for the church today. If they did nothing how can you call them people with good souls?? A kind hearted soul would have died to stop them. I guess if you pay the church enough gold they will be happy right? Or build the fanciest buildings on top of ancient sacred locations. Or maybe you can really keep the church out of interfereing by simply protecting their child loving servants??? Wake up my friend. Have you heard the news? The system lies

[@abraham8565]

Lol. I thought usually imam, ulama, ustaz (islamic priest) that love to say about hell but Christian too😂

[@amyhizenski9773]

The roots of education begin in your home and the responsibility is with the parents, first and foremost. So many catechism teachers, Catechists, are used as the 'family' to teach the child everything in the classroom setting when the parents and family do not practice actively as part of their lives. The parents just drop them off and expect it to happen like magic when they are not leading the family as the primary teachers of the faith. It's like dropping your kid off for 8th grade Sacrament of Confirmation prep and they have not practiced the faith since they received their First Holy Communion 6 years before; you wouldn't take Calculus after only having first grade math!

[@michaelfisher7170]

It might also be pointed out that when churches run their operations in a corporate manner, concerned with the bottom line, like any large business, that for some of us creates an enormous gulf from what we expect a church to actually be.

[@jamescam04]

Best comment in the thread.

[@ninmarwarda5154]

100%

[@AmitKumar-qz2us]

It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine, and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine

[@albertsmith6717]

@@AmitKumar-qz2us Thomas Paine was a satanist. Why should anyone care about what a satanist saids about God?

[@AmitKumar-qz2us]

@@albertsmith6717 He was pure heart human...humanity love him....

[@angievalful]

Hello from Spain! You are absolutely right, I see this happening in Spain and I myself have experecied it...I love your channel, keep up the good work. Gld bless you!😇

[@rodpruitt8926]

SPOT ON MY DUDE! Thax for the encouragement.

[@BigLewBBQ]

Wow! That was very insiteful. I'm a devout Baptist,. My mother is Catholic, my father Baptist. I went to Catholic school. As a young man I did a lot of study about what I should and shouldn't believe. I invested a lot of time and energy studying church history (and not just from my Catholic school religion class perspective), the Bible and various doctrines that separate Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Mainline protastant and Evangelical Churches. I knew and believed Christ's resurrection was indeed an historical fact. That his death was not in vain and his Resurrection prooved it. But why the divisions, schisms, and different doctrines that divide denominations? Because mankind is finite, and we try to comprehend the incomprehensible God. Also because mankind is fallen we are sinners in need of a sinless saviour. We are finite sinners trying to obey and follow, the best way our consciences will allow, an infinite and Holy Lord. In the end, by my late twenties, I knew I would be Baptist, and lead my family and rear my children as Baptists. I'm now forty-eight years old I continue to study and learn. My faith is valuable to me, I have invested heavily in it, it is worth everything. You and I have different theological and denominational beliefs,. but you are oh so right on this point. I agree wholeheartedly with you here. If one thinks that Jesus is risen indeed, then he/she needs to find out why. Jesus paid with his life and blood, therefore what should one's Christianity cost? I so enjoyed this, thank you.

[@TheMrpalid]

How did the real Jesus of Nazareth get transformed into the mythical Jesus Christ? Pretty much started with the “apostle” Paul, stirring up trouble in his attempt to create a new religion. Completed by Constantine at the Council of Nicaea, 325 CE. Jesus was a perfect candidate to be at the center of this new religion. Initially just another “pretender to the throne” of Israel, the rightful heir according to his Hasmonean lineage, proclaimed the Messiah, like many others before and after him. And like the others he made his bid to usurp the Roman authorities and 
assume the position of King and High Priest of Israel, which, like all the others, failed. What made Jesus special is that he escaped execution by staging his crucifixion.
He survived, when all the others were put to death by Rome. But a secret that big would be hard to keep. Surely he was at times recognized and over the years the gossip about him took on monumental form. “I seen him feed 5000 people one time.”
“I seen him walk on water.”
“I…I saw him raise the dead!”
“Surely he was the son of God!”
“He was God incarnate!”
All manner of miracle and impossible feat were attributed to him. None of them with any basis in reality, of course. Yet one thing could not be denied. He was alive. He did survive the “crucifixion.”
How he survived was a closely guarded secret. Paul wasn’t in on it, so he felt free to create the resurrection myth. Something worthy of the central figure in his new religion, plus, he (Paul) could now put words in his mouth. Paul can have Jesus, after the resurrection, say take the gospel to the Gentiles, spread it throughout the land. When in fact Jesus was concerned only with his lost sheep of Israel and, while alive, preached against just such behavior. Paul had no luck preaching to the Jews and was pretty much forced to deal 
with the Gentiles, so it was imperative that He have Jesus instruct others to do the same. The whole circumcision business was a bit too messy for Paul also, so he had Jesus proclaim baptism as the way to go. Something Jesus never practiced while alive. All these things, taken together, was the creation of the mythological Jesus.
But there was so much and so diverse and so confusing that finally, over a couple hundred years later, Constantine got all the bishops from the different sects together at the Council of Nicaea, 325 CE. to decide a creed that could be agreed upon. This was where it was decided that Jesus was in fact, divine, the son of God. (Though it should be noted- the vote was not unanimous.) And all the stories and writings were gone through, most tossed out as apocrypha, the remainder set in book form, 50 copies made and given to each bishop to take back to their respective territories, so that all could preach a uniform canon, and voila-
The New Testament is born. A wholly mythological text appropriated by the Romans to use as a tool to control and manipulate the masses for the last 1700 years. Extremely effective.

[@gizellelouis5066]

@@TheMrpalid Sure! I thought the masses were already controlled by the Romans? Unless the historians are wrong, they blamed Christianity on the demise of Rome, so how did the control part come into play? Newsflash, every super power make their conquered areas adopt their religion, so why would the Romans need to create a 'mythical Jesus' for further domination? Paul being a faithful and fervent follower of the Jewish religion, wanted to stir up trouble so that he would spend the rest of his life in tribulation and then executed? You seem to know a lot about what Jesus practiced, were you with the ' non mythical Jesus'? Just curious! Mythical Jesus? Hmmmm, just like your mythical intelligence?

[@twenty-fivethirty-six3946]

The doctrines and traditions of men contain enough truth to allow the enemy to lead us away from the narrow path just far enough, that our pride will keep us from seeking the way back. As a result, most Christians are unable to express or experience the fullness of the Father’s love. Break free of your denominational doctrines and consume the Word of God! Visit our channel to watch our video called: "Walking in the Spirit and Truth", where we explore what it means to be the type of worshiper the Father seeks, one who worships in the Spirit AND Truth (John 4:23). Blessings!

[@joannechisholm4501]

The good news its dying good ridence

[@steve19811]

If you have to study the Bible for years then you're missing the mark on the simplicity of what it is tying to tell you. You are creating your own reality and when your life sucks and you face obstacles to what you want then you'll realize you'll need to surrender to god's love to improve your life and transcend your conditioned ego. That simple folks....

[@gizzy2403]

100% agreed! Ur right on every word man! As I've grown older, I've noticed that people that aren't disciplined jus seem to wander around mostly depressed and seemingly lost. My wife and I speak of this often. As she is a nurse/c.o. in a fed. Med. Prison. She's tough on every patient/ inmate under her area. And u know what, they freakin luv her 4 it!! They tell her all th time " ur tough, but ur fair to each 1 of us and u don't play favs." A black shot caller on her area told her also " I'm glad u keep them inline, they need it! An if shit ever goes sideways in here, we got ur back." I really think th sad but true moral of this story is that when people are free 2do anything, they end up doing nothing!

[@bestpossibleworld2091]

This is right on the money. Sociologically, it is the concept of high boundaries. Organizations that are difficult to get into and difficult to stay in are the ones that tend to survive and thrive. Easy in leads to easy out. When the church does not have clear boundaries from the world, it sends a message that it is essentially a social, feel-good club. Conversely, when the church has strong theological and moral expectations, people will be repelled by this but those who adhere to the church will tend to be very highly motivated. This is why the Latin Mass is growing.

[@FriarJoe66]

I think you’ve left out something important: the rise of a hyper-consumerist, work-obsessed culture. I think the church has given concessions precisely because this kind of lifestyle takes up so much time and energy in people’s lives, and they don’t even realize it. The church needs to articulate to people why this lifestyle is bad for them, and why their alternatives are better.

[@teresagabriela1794]

I feel the same way. I am a cradle Catholic that only viewed my faith as just family tradition and until my late 20's I came back to the Sacraments, I use a veil at Mass and Adoration and I have been talked down for it. I had a conversion in my own faith and changed my life around, and them my lifestyle, my attire, etc. I wish my parish would not be so protestant and be more of what we are Catholics. They have told us not to kneel during consecration, and we should not be wearing a veil, etc. I pray for my parish and my priest every day. 🙏

[@Peter-kl8jg]

"I use a veil at Mass and Adoration and I have been talked down for it" I would have admired you for it and agree with the rest of your comments. God Bless.

[@mongolianfishingvillages1371]

Islam will surpass christianity by 2035 as Christianity is dominant in places like Europe who's females are having less children

[@mongolianfishingvillages1371]

@Lara Gravenor Islam will surpass christianity by 2035 as Christianity is dominant in places like Europe who's females are having less children

[@Palestine4Ever169]

Teresa Patino Wow you really close to truth you love doing some things that was ordered by God (not the church) I pray that allah to guide you to the truth

[@anonymousjohnson976]

@luffy 👒👒 Yes, they are going from one cult to another.

[@dimix2199]

Even though I'm Atheist, I don't like seeing some of the comments. I thought this was a great analogy and as a result a great video. A large part of a religion is tradition and repetition, so when that is taken seriously, its members will cling on to it more. I do believe, however, that there are more factors involved in the decline of christianity. The advent of modern day science is one of them. Anyway thanks for giving your perspective, it was interesting indeed.

[@larrysilverstein8606]

DIMIX thank you

[@virgilthetraitor493]

At least you're respectful.. I can't go anywhere anymore without one of my friends asking me about my "stupid" beliefs

[@brunoandrespadillanavarro8923]

Thanks for being respectful.

[@DrSniperLT]

Atheist and polite in a Christian video comment section...? Christmas came early this year.

[@matthewsteele99]

Agreed as a fellow non believer

[@bisvizstudio1242]

That's a really good analogy to be honest. So other conclusion might be "the churches did changes the rule to make it easy to be a Christian with the intention to retain followers, yet that effort seems to be a wrong decision causing a lot of people don't care about the religion." The problem is at the church. Shouldn't change anything at the first place. Just preach whatever in the bible. That's basically what Islam teaches. Muslim scholars teach whatever the Qur'an say and whatever Prophet Muhammad said to the Muslims. Not adding or subtracting anything from it.

[@loreanrivera9895]

Wow. Totally gonna quote you on that last sentence. Couldn't agree more

[@michaeljohnston490]

What you’re talking about is the sunk cost fallacy, feeling you can’t just walk away from something you’ve invested a lot of time, blood, sweat and tears into. I have a Mormon friend who believes the church is a sham, but doesn’t leave because his entire life has been built on it

[@XenophonQ]

It's a tool often used by cults.

[@gilian2587]

@@MichaelTheophilus906 Same could be said for all of us, including you. If Yahweh is actually 'Baal' -- as many Torah associated sources of transcriptions indicate; then would worshipping the Canaanite God who was associated with child sacrifice by incineration really lead the God Fearing, deluded Christian to heaven? I very much doubt it.

[@jordysavage3363]

Ex Mormon here yeah I know a lot of people in that situation

[@gilian2587]

@@jordysavage3363 I suspect it is similar for many catholics as well.

[@Tyler_W]

Right, that's not a healthy foundation upon which to build commitment to anything.

[@jbdrizzle6722]

Totally agree! Investment breeds investment. You see this in every aspect of life yet the moment we start talking about spirituality we act like like this no longer applies. Thanks for making this video Brian!

[@sarahnade8663]

No, this is called manipulation. You are advocating people being emotional and mentally manipulated into staying with the church cause they've already invested so much into it. It's THIS attitude you are showing off! Where you are happily committing evil in the name of supposedly "saving" people that is killing your religion!

[@lucybear5600]

I’m glad I clicked on this. It wasn’t what I was looking for. I was looking for “Why I Left Christianity” videos and this one popped up with them. This was a good watch. 👍🏼

[@kevinriley2261]

As a devout Catholic, I appreciate your videos.

[@ukerkater]

Eastern Orthodoxy preserves the practices of the early Christians and in this way avoids diluting the spiritual healing promised by Christ through the Church. In comparison, western Christianity has shifted its focus on accommodating the comforts and whims of modern life, ironically to the detriment of the faithful.

[@wms72]

Eastern Orthodoxy lost North Africa and the Middle East long ago

[@jacobraji2442]

The amount of pressure on the western church is tremendously greater than that placed on the eastern churches, both Catholic and Orthodox denominations. The catholic church in the west is constantly in the spotlight, with enemies ready to pounce upon anything and everything. Due to this pressure, the older generation within the western church tried to water down tradition, "for the youth"- but the youth crave tradition and high worship. Hopefully this trend of modernism will stop ruining the church.

[@DavidJones-ih1cp]

@@wms72 - Yes, due to migration brought about through persecution and genocide. So not really an applicable point.

[@raysalmon6566]

The faithful???

[@raysalmon6566]

@@wms72 There still is a lot of missionary work there

[@Hector-sp2hv]

Agreed! The old saying,”Easy come, easy go.” would apply here.

[@noahm44]

CHRISTIANITY IS LEAVING BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING IN END TIMES. People reject Christ more than ever and the Bible makes it clear that these spirits grow stronger in the end times

[@lenkasustackova4560]

@@noahm44 Christians are saying this for AGES

[@individualthoughts4427]

@@lenkasustackova4560 Yes because we don't know when will it come, and it is also to remind the younger christians about the end times

[@hersheylindon7677]

Jesus said he would come back 2000 years later it's now been over 2000 years, so he will come very soon

[@Vampx]

@@hersheylindon7677 where did he said that??

[@scottbennion7585]

What kind of shoes are they?

[@DJHastingsFeverPitch]

You make a good point, that in a more permissive environment, people feel more permission to investigate or question the doctrine that they believe and either revise or reject it. Additionally, I know that correlation isn't causation, but I would guess that the internet has a lot to do with it. Whereas in the past, if people had doubts, they might talk to their local clergy, or take a trip to the library. Now, if someone has a doubt, they have ready access to a literal world of information which can lead to much more profound doubts and/or total erosion of their faith.

[@bluBlaq33]

Keep people stupid is the name game of your faith. More information means less blind faith. Is the Devil is Knowledge destroying “belief” than I am a fan.

[@davidbrooksbank7444]

God bless you brother. Even knowing that we need to be part of a group in order to grow and develope some of us tread a lonely path but love the Lord. I hope to be together with others and soon

[@mongolianfishingvillages1371]

Islam will surpass christianity by 2035 as Christianity is dominant in places like Europe who's females are having less children

[@stupidpark3494]

@@mongolianfishingvillages1371 why did you feel the need to respond like that?

[@centurionyt4472]

Kenway Tree 1700's asatru is making a comeback in Iceland and parts of England and Norway, this is the belief in Norse mythology aka Viking religion, they’ve even started not he first temple in Iceland proving that people are Turning away from Christianity and moving back to there ancestors roots

[@lydiapetra1211]

@@centurionyt4472 actually it's not about a religion...it's not about Christianity...it's about a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.....

[@rishabhraj5096]

@@mongolianfishingvillages1371 Islam needs a scientific revolution to make people come out of the crap theories.

[@funkyboy_22]

I visited Belgium a few years back and we ate in a Chinese restaurant for dinner. The people beside us, the average Belgian adults (a few of them were old) began looking and staring at us as my family and I decided to recite a prayer before the meal. A lot of their facial reactions were both of surprise and bewilderment as if we were performing some strange or foreign religious custom. It's appalling that the lack of religiosity in the West has declined to such a state that prayer before meals appears weird and strange to the eyes of the same people who helped its spread.

[@brumboru]

I live in 5he UK you would get some strange looks here too...

[@brumboru]

Lol

[@feudinggreeks3316]

@@brumboru U.K is melting into a cesspool. I feel sorry for the Welsh, Irish, Scottish. Your Protestant/Anglican kings fought for centuries against invaders and enemies, just to have your capital run by a Muslim that endorses shaming fellow citizens and persecuting good men who defend themselves against violent attacks.

[@RealDexterMidnight]

Becuse it's wird and you shoukd keep it at home

[@luistorres6956]

That's because Europeans are tired of being abused as cannon fodder for wars for their rich lords.

[@annapobst]

True words, deeply appreciated ❤

[@sisterb8688]

How much do I appreciate you and your voice of reason and authentic faith. May Christ bless and fortify you.

[@jamesgossweiler1349]

Christianity has waxed and waned throughout time...to state "It's dying" is an unlikely prediction. The interest in practicing Christianity in China is so strong now the government has had to crack down on it. The real reason Christianity is waning now is because people learn about God during hard times, not easy times. And, my friends, we are in extremely easy times right now historically. Although I'm sure this poster is a affable chap, he quite young and thus has quite a but more to see in life. I'd like to see his take on Christianity when he's 75. There's an old saying, "People don't need Jesus until he is all they have left." His comment "the last 50 years have been characterized by a trend of relaxation in practices and teachings of the faith by it’s leaders" is spot on, however. Studies today show that people are more attracted to churches with conservative values than liberal ones. I don't believe "the spread of science" impacts Christianity at all...your average US citizen is no Isaac Newton...

[@jamesgossweiler1349]

Yes, these are easy times. When you have some free time, watch videos of Nazi concentration camps, videos of Hiroshima after the bomb, view photos of dead WWII and Civil War soldiers, and the list goes on and on. Yes, times now are easy. That being said, I agree with you on most of your other comments. Sadly, I agree that "fire" may be what's needed to "reboot" this world.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

easy times... no. not at all. you must be very privileged. christianity is indeed dying. check the stats.

[@babushkadoll7959]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 maybe in western Europe but it's growing in Africa ,Asia and Russia .christianity in Russia in the 90's was 34% but now it's above 70% same with Ukraine less than 35% in the 90's now above 80%.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

@@babushkadoll7959 but overall worldwide, it's dying.

[@drooskie9525]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 It is only dying in the West, but it is growing everywhere else. Christianity suffered through many historical attempts at trying to be silenced and eradicated, but it only pushed back hard each time. It had centuries of its ups and downs. It is not a religion you're going to kill. Not with a message that it preaches to people.

[@JoeyGirardin]

It is indeed a sad thing that the Church changes for the converts, when the converts are supposed to change for the Church.

[@karenc2844]

My father was a convert deeply devoted to the Catholic Church, very affected after Vatican Ii and spent most Sundays after that at a traditional Latin Mass.... the Church isn't changing for the Protestants; the Church is changing to deny Catholics of the teachings and practices of this beautiful faith, the One, True Faith.... and, sadly, many Catholics are allowing it to happen... it's easy to sit with a cup of coffee in hand and listen to a teaching with a few jokes sprinkled in for 20 minutes vs an hour + in devotion, on our knees at times in remembrance of the sacrifice at Calvary, receiving the True Presence of Our Lord in Holy Communion as He instructed us to do if we are to have life within us. I attended an Evangelical Church for 20 yrs, having left the Catholic Church bc it was easy to do so...I didn't KNOW my faith... Came back in 2014... and I'm here to stay... at a Latin Mass nearly every Sunday for an hour and a half participating in the most beautiful, holy, reverent, sacred, deeply affecting, sacrifice of the Mass....

[@karenc2844]

I forgot to conclude with....MANY converts are leading the charge for the traditional teachings and practices of the Catholic Church...bc they also know "from whence they came".... Protestantism... where they may have received partial truth, and now as Catholics they have the full truth of the teachings of Christ in His One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church...

[@davidwadsworth8982]

Very solid observation

[@adamdilem941]

Islam doesn't change. The Quran hasn't been touched or changed. As you read it today as it was revealed 1400 years ago. To the letter. And no contradictions found in it.

[@JoeyGirardin]

@@adamdilem941 ok. I may be a sinner, but I love Jesus enough to not leave the church. I know Truth when I see it. It is fruitless to try to convert me, but I know you mean no harm. Have a nice day tho

[@j.c.3800]

Thanks Brian. 40 years ago my wife and I had our marriage turned around when we decided to act as if we believed. In a material sense, good things and bad things happened, but we tried to believe that God had a reason for them, and we learned about our moral deficits and we learned about the struggles of other people. I thank God that none of my plans to be someone successful never worked out.

[@bpeditingcinematography2544]

This is very sad to read. "We decided to act as if we believed." Ouch, that's got to hurt right in the faith, right?

[@Yung.Learner]

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE SONG AT THE END?

[@tonyjames9016]

I have recently come back to Roman Catholicism, or Catholicism in general from Orthodoxy. I had converted not liking what happened to my Catholic Church looking for answers in Orthodoxy but all the while learned that I was missing out on my own Catholic faith, And figured out that if all good Catholics leave in the church will be left is nothing more than a hollow shell.I have since found a fraternity of Saint Peter Parish where I live that is very traditional, and I couldn’t agree with you more and your point! I have found joy in the Catholic Church and true universality, all through it’s traditions and maintaining the traditions. Thank you so much for this!

[@barneymagoo1443]

The Catholic religion is probably one of the most evil organisations ever to exist

[@peteroldwood5624]

This is very precious what you said and very eye-opening. I myself am an example of this. Some years ago our former Pastor retired and the new one is very liberal and I had to leave the church as I couldn't agree such lenient approach to Jesus teaching. My faith is still strong but I don't belong to any church now. I read the Bible.

[@user-sd6lg8lf5c]

Lol just leave it

[@lydiapetra1211]

All you need is Jesus and His Word the Bible! It's the fountain of all Truth! Also on KZbin. . please check out John MacArthur'...he is a true man of God who preached the Word! Also Irwin Lutzer!

[@user-sd6lg8lf5c]

@@christiankhoury9343 Wow. Are you another one of those Christians who only believes 'the good bits of the Bible'.

[@giovanniledezma2202]

Go to a Catholic or Orthodox Church

[@CSUnger]

Was invited once to a Christian seminar wherein a video was shown with a minister I had never seen before preaching that we are making it too difficult for outsiders to come into the Church and we need to make it simpler. After the video, there was a discussion period where everyone was in agreement with his thesis. (If it’s in a book or on a video it seems to infer some worst of authority, I guess) After listening to the speeches and not being able to take it anymore, I spoke up and suggested that this man’s idea was 180 degrees out of reality and, not that we need to make it more difficult, but that we need to stress the importance of understanding the commitment and to make sure that anyone wishing to “be saved” be willing to make that commitment. The ensuing disagreements, including from pastors, spoke volumes about the direction the Church is heading. This young man, although I do not share his Theology, has it exactly correct.

[@pmccarthy001]

Yes, I think you've touched on a very important element in the decline of religion in the West. In fact, the more liberal Protestant denominations have seen huge declines in membership, those leaving either going to more conservative denominations or becoming atheist or agnostic, or one way or another, not identifying with any religious tradition. Even some of the mainstream denominations have seen significant declines, but denominations embracing conservative theologies even grow in membership. This is the part of the decline that you speak to here, but on the other side, there is a general, long-term, accelerating decline in religiosity. I think putting religion and science in some opposition to each other is a folly pursuit. The only question that really matters is whether or not people will continue to find important meaning in traditional religiosity, or not. Ultimately, it's just to what extent people assess traditional religiosity meets their needs to find meaning or if they find other mechanisms to find meaning in ways they feel are more suitable and appropriate for the modern world we see ourselves as living in today and our relation to that world.

[@melissahyatt7395]

Your amazing! Brilliant observation and discernment, great analogy. Thanks for sharing.

[@lemonprime7889]

When I saw what direction the video was going in, I thought that Brian would talk about putting a price on the Eucharist.

[@andrewmaldonado71]

Religion will never die. It will continue to change, adapt and evolve just as we do.

[@TheFracturedfuture]

Yeah unfortunately there will always be stupid people.

[@dmark1922]

I feel this video told me almost nothing about the question being begged; which is, WHY is the "watering down" occurring in the first place? Absolute strictness in adhering to tradition can have its points, but in these days where we have a choice of where we worship (unlike older Europe did in its past), such strictness can also attract certain types for the wrong reasons and are not always healthy alternatives. I don't have the answers; and I also can understand how it's foolish to think a 6-minute video can help me to even begin to find an answer, but thanks for trying.

[@TheresaReichley]

I think that’s an appeal to the very casualized culture around us. And it happens with a lot of things. We don’t hold people to anything because somehow the west has internalized the idea that demands for quality are going to scare people away. It’s true of almost anything. You don’t enforce dress standards because you are afraid of people not coming. Or you don’t insist on quality art before joining an art club, because you want people to come. But nobody gets anything from things that have no standards.

[@dmark1922]

@@TheresaReichley Truer words never spoken!

[@madcavalier4769]

Me: “Oh nice video. I wonder what the comment section looks like.” *A few seconds later* Me: “Welp now I have cancer.”

[@lydiapetra1211]

The Roman catholic church is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell! All you need is Jesus Christ and His Word the Bible! Here's Truth: "cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"

[@curbroadshow]

@@lydiapetra1211 Haha, it was the Romans that made up the cult of Jesus, turning him into a man-god-spirit thing, ever thought it’s you worshipping false idols?

[@lydiapetra1211]

@@curbroadshow The Bible is God's Word...and God the Creator is found in it... once you have a relationship with God your eyes will open up to who He is!

[@curbroadshow]

@@lydiapetra1211 What colour is your Jesus?

[@curbroadshow]

Lydia Petra How could I have a relationship with your god? Where is he, why doesn’t your god show himself to me?

[@llongone2]

Christianity is an old, outdated, unchanging story in a new, progressing, dynamic world.

[@mordechaimordechai]

llongone2 Church is old and unchanging because it has God and man in it, because it deals with eternity. While the world is quickly and dynamically going to shit, because it deals with futility. I think we can see where we are ''progressing'' to.

[@cherrykalathoti4611]

False, it is growing ever so , a growin g interest for som ething from the 1st B.C

[@davidhenry352]

llongone2 it's not old, it's timeless.

[@joanne8987]

Agreed, David. Timeless is such a beautiful word... probably because it means that not everything is a fad or whim and that there are truths we can count on.

[@seanmichaels8060]

People know more about history and anthropology these days. This includes the origins of Yahweh as a pagan desert deity from Israel and Midian.

[@bpeditingcinematography2544]

The world is more connected than ever and the place for a God to exist in day-today life is shrinking. God is a concept that is thankfully no longer required to survive and understand this place or keep us connected to likeminded people. God was the path of least resistance for a long time, but that time has passed. People don't need it like they once did and if our luck holds, they won't in the future.

[@MC-oi2pb]

6:24 song?

[@Dislike-kq9uq]

Hello Brian! I personally am Agnostic, and I greatly appreciate the tone of your video and presenting Valid points about your Community. I originally came looking for some Evangelist Malice ranting about how the world is going to hell, (honestly to scoff at the idea) and am actually very lucky to find your video first. Perhaps I should go and think upon my own mindset of looking for hate to help fuel my own. I don't think I can sway towards Christian belief, but I can help you out with a like and a subscribe. I hope you have a great day, Brian.

[@BrianHoldsworth]

Wow. Thanks for tuning in. That was a refreshingly candid take.

[@afonsoteixeiradamota404]

@Mansoor Ahmad Dear Ahmad, the end of your comment is the end of your argument. Jesus is not a prophet of God but God himself made human flesh, as He told in many different ways. Many religions/churches speak of God and pretend to worship the one True God but God Himself only founded one Church: ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. Thus, and using your own words: May I kindly and lovingly invite you to Catholicism. Catholicism is the beautiful religion of worshiping the uniquely one True God (the unseen Creator and Sustainer) of the universe - The Holy Trinity. The Bible was revealed by Himself. Once you get to know it you will become a believer in Catholicism. We Catholics believe in Jesus as God mas human flesh.

[@Joshuarcade]

@Mansoor Ahmad the verse you describe here is not finished? Jesus himself continue by saying " the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent into the world" "This is my son, in whom I am well pleased" Almighty God speaking of His own self made flesh, Jesus Messiah

[@greatexpectations6577]

@Mansoor Ahmad you and Alfonso should get in a wrestling match to see which god is the true god. 😝

[@RowanWarren78]

Thanks for the comment. I'm Agnostic as well. I see a lot of comments in response to yours where each person is either trying to convert you or fight each other 😆. No, I could never go back to religion. Now, when I see people of faith passionately debating things I once though we're important, but now realize are irrational, I can't believe I was ever a believer. You will never see so much hate and anger than you will from a devout person of faith when you tell them you're Agnostic and happy. For whatever reason, they just can't accept that there are people who exist outside of their faith. If they truly were at peace because they found their true system of belief, why would my personal choice make them so upset?

[@AtheistEdge]

This is a net positive, as Christianity is retarding human progress.

[@levisando]

Someone needs to read some history.

[@CornerTalker]

But the question remains: Progressing toward what? I usually find that people enamored of the words "Progress" and "Progressive" intend that humankind progress toward Marxism. With history in mind, I find that retrogressive.

[@souhachalhoub1622]

Atheist Edge Faith is a psychological support that every human needs and Christianity seems to be the best doctrine respecting human, try to live in church to find your serenity, it's for your own good

[@boomslang2681]

as Christianity declines, human progress declines.

[@Maximus01776]

Atheist Edge yes, like evolution ain't retarded, lol atheist don't learn

[@AlDunbar]

I recently learned about Goodhart's law: "when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure". I found this to apply to some organizations I was involved in, specifically that we tried to measure our success by the extent of buy-in we could generate often as represented as attendance at our events, rather than their applicability of our services to the members. I think this may be somewhat at play here as well.

[@arthurcullen4956]

Agree ! When we work for something it’s more Gratifying 🤝🙏

[@troig43]

'A lighthouse is more useful than a church' - Benjamin Franklin

[@johnhardin2269]

He also belonged to the Hell Fire Club, an association of reprobates. I wonder if he still sings that tune in Hell? Personally I like him, but the gate to Hell is damned wide.

[@troig43]

@John Hardin. Well, I don't think he sings much of anything being dead. He is not in hell because hell doesn't exist. Nor heaven. His bones turn to dust, as will yours, as will mine.

[@cptmorgan2523]

Yea, he’s in hell alright, if by hell you mean the English pagan thought of the land for all dead that has neither pains nor joys. Yknow kinda like sheol

[@troig43]

@CptMorgan. Think back to 3 or 4 or 600,000 years before you were born. That's what death is like.

[@cptmorgan2523]

SACRED ANUS I’m only mentioning how hell wasn’t always a place a fire, it used to be accurate to what death really is

[@cxz0324888]

Very inspiring.Thank you for having reminded me of the beginning love for our faith.

[@DanaClarkDana]

I imagine your career will land firmly in apologetics, writing and/or speaking despite your excellent skills in design and videography. These videos you make are great and they're further underscored by the overall tone of authenticity and respect. Informally I find Catholic apologists generally tend towards this more often than our Protestant brethren; the tone and tactics seem more generally Christian in nature and are thus more compelling on another level (probably since it further resembles the Truth). Trent Horn and Brant Pitre are other good examples of this phenomenon.

[@scipio7837]

I would fast from Good Friday until the Easter Feast after Mass. My health doesn't allow such a strict adherence anymore, but I do miss it. I still practice the "Great Lent" and forgo something like all caffeine or meat, but it's an individual choice as to what he or she holds with some value

[@bobbuilder5601]

I agree with what you say Brian. My roots are Roman Catholic and I was married in the Church. My wife, children and I have since become “born again” but my heart still goes out to my brothers/sisters in the RC church. First off: where people get the idea that “science” disproves God is false; science doesn’t deny the Godhead, rather it explains intelligent design and the complex order of our universe. Second: yes, without cost- true value is often marginalized and minimized. Third: the time is coming and is now here where an “awakening” (final?) for the Church (all Believers) will occur. I pray the conviction that guided you to make this video will bear much fruit as it reaches those who are truly at a crossroad and are earnestly seeking The Truth. Blessings!

[@andymalone7338]

Apostates are funny when they post on Catholic videos. No Orthodox Catholic cares what your think. You're wrong and sinning against the Holy Spirit. You might need to thump your bible to find out what that means.

[@Babby6010]

This is the first video of yours I've found a few years ago when I became Christian. I just read the cost of discipleship by bonhoefer and his teaching on cheap grace and now im in love with your channel and am considering becoming catholic. So glad I found this again. God bless

[@xmuhmd]

Islam is the logical next step after christianity, just as the christianity was the logical next step after judaism I hope you will read Quran to discover the truth about prophet jesus and God who prophet jesus himself prayed to.. In Bible.. And sure Satan will not makes it easy for you.. But Ask God for guidance to find the truth.. I know it is not about the topic But I want to convey the message for you And I want you in hevean with me and with our prophet jesus.. And it is your decision! May God bless and guide you🌹

[@Christian-hi2uc]

In christian just be your self.. love God and other with all your heart.. happiness and blessing from God is always with you and fam.. GBU..

[@Christian-hi2uc]

Islam@@xmuhmd is not logical to me my friend.. muhammad really bad shepherd.. he believes in paganism rocks hajar aswad can erase sins too bro.. Jesus Inside Father and Father inside Jesus (JOHN 14÷9-11).. I don't hate muslim you know.. you are my neighbours.. but i really don't agree with muhammad teachings..

[@momosaidnineisfine2194]

Just believe in Humanity, god is just a plague

[@thetavibes9021]

@@momosaidnineisfine2194 Humanity is a plague, god is just a catalyst.

[@daveperryman291]

True spiritual discernment is not knowing right from wrong, but knowing right from almost right. You're almost right.

[@jordannewberry9561]

Ah Dave from the KZbin comments got it all figured out. Teach us your wisdom Dave.

[@skatetrooper5285]

How do we push back? Or help?

[@MyGdoggy]

These comments are just sad.

[@pauldavies8638]

But true

[@coyotebones1131]

Nobody has said spiritual growth yet, and that’s literally all Jesus taught. In a secular materialist culture it’s too high concept, it seems like woo woo

[@JohnSmith-zo7ou]

Fasting for lent has always made me feel connected to the observance of Easter. Eating fish on a Friday has never felt like fasting. What started as abstaining from meat on a Friday was gradually watered down to you must eat fish. Now even that has faded. The ritual of a family meal can play a central roll in bonding a family and making religion part of life. All that is required is a simple meal, no need to make fish compulsory. It could even be a meat and fish free meal (and no I am not a vegetarian). Fasting has the added benefit of focusing on what is important and acting as antidote to modern materialism.

[@coyotebones1131]

John good on you! Fasting is a great way to see different angles on truth. Good travels brother

[@BedboundME]

I’m totally meat free. I don’t understand the big deal of not eating meat on a Friday

[@leoinsf]

How does "fasting for lent" bring us to an awareness that God is our Father and He loves us? Fasting is all about "earning God's love" by fasting. To me it is immature, unnecessarily and completely off the subject of the love God has for His children and the fact we do not need to earn that love. So much of Catholicism is about "earning" and "earning" is not the message Christ came on Earth to deliver. Catholicism is the Pharisee's version of coming to God, not the Publicans. Read the parable and you will see.

[@steve2474]

@@leoinsf I didn't embrace any form of fasting until a few years ago. I find it very useful in terms of spiritual discipline in temporarily denying one the pleasures of the world and helping to stay focused on Christ's sacrifice for us and not giving in so easily to temptation of sin in its many forms. I find it to be a useful tool in the spiritual warfare battle. I think the Orthodox are far too strict on their fasting requirements and frequency/duration, while the Catholics are far too lenient. Not to mention the Protestants who don't do it all. It has to be done in conjunction with prayer and/or scripture reading. Otherwise, it is just a diet. My fasting routine, falls in between the Catholic and Orthodox.

[@riverdonoghue9992]

I've known catholic priests over the years who had degrees in science who worked as teachers, teaching chemistry, maths and physics. Science didn't destroy their faith. They were more orthodox than most of the lazy theogically inept wasters in the church today who seem to be constantly appologising all the time about the church. I had a christan brother as a science teacher back in the 80s who was a devout catholic and also an absolute gentleman who used to tell us that science can't explain everything.

[@canadiankewldude]

Brilliant and surprisingly refreshing. God bless.

[@BatterySonic]

Plain and simple. Once you see the man behind the curtain, you can't unsee it. It's not that I just don't believe in religion. I literally can't anymore.

[@charlesf9050]

Lmao plebitor spotted

[@Kelle0284]

Some would say, It's not about religion. It's about a relationship.

[@Xaviallin1]

Religion has caused prejudice and lots of conflict over the past centuries. If anything, I don’t see the point in practicing that sort of the things

[@bmi9198]

Your example in the beginning seems to be a pretty simple situation: you're balls deep in consumerist mindset.

[@gallanonim3328]

It's funny that you pretend to being above it.

[@solamano7239]

He speaks to a consumerist public of which I am part. Perhaps growing a vegetable patch would be a better analogy. When you sow seeds and run outside every morning to make sure your seedlings are growing, protecting them from wind, heat/cold and rain and and then from the birds and the bugs, you really do appreciate your harvest. When you buy a bag of spinach in the store and it goes bad at the back of your refrigerator, it's a case of 'just dump it'. Easy come, easy go. It's about commitment.

[@jimmccloskey4744]

Great insight Brian! Thanks, Jim

[@lambharoy9186]

I'm a Protestant Christian from India. I agree with you 💯 percent.Thank you so much. Protestant churches and the Catholic Church too have so much to learn from this video. God bless you Brian Holdsworth. Keep making such valuable videos.

[@vinitadidwania4697]

You are not indian brother you are slave without his master

[@TruthBeTold7]

I think a lot of clergy from the main branches of professing Christianity view their position as just a job with a salary. Their heart is not in the faith, and they don't have the best interests of the people in mind.

[@steve2474]

I think there is some truth to that statement, but I believe it applies a thousand times more to politicians and serving the public interest (rather than their own), especially those with a "D" behind there name.

[@davidwadsworth8982]

Now hown can you say such a dumb thing, and you not going to see for your self.

[@TruthBeTold7]

@@davidwadsworth8982 It comes from a lot of experience.

[@Dante_-cg3fq]

In my country Uruguay, one of the most agnostic / atheist countries in Latin America, many Christian holidays such as Easter, Christmas has changed its name to a holiday week or a beer week, and Christmas for a family day Even older people don't pay much attention to everything that is the church And the young people, I included are developing their own creeds and joining old beliefs For example, some of my friends prefer to believe in the Nordic gods and Valhalla, others in the Olympics and other larger ones do not care about religion, What is rare is that despite this every time there are more private churches of which their communities are mostly Colombian or Venezuelan Cuban, who are trying to convert Uruguayan society And here is the funny part, one of my classmates at the university, of Venezuelan origin has told me that his family is stopping to go to church, because they say they have adapted to think like Uruguayans with a thought of / I don't know / I don't care / whatever it is I am a good person /

[@soycarlosalexis]

Welp, it is not often to find such a testimony from South America. In fact, me being a Panamanian (Central America), it's hard to believe such a thing could happen here (the shift towards a broader and different point-of-view when we steer strongly to Christian beliefs), but it is worth noting the effects of such a change in the social script of your nation. I might not know your age but, is there a way you could share with us what is going on there socially? I am very curious about it. P.D.: the age might be important if you could reach back in time and connect the dots on these changes' outcomes.

[@Dante_-cg3fq]

@@soycarlosalexis I am 22 years old born in an agnostic family with education in Catholic schools (baptized communion) as the vast majority of my relatives Uruguay my country has always been very unrelated to the region since it was never of much interest to the missionaries at the time of the colony And many believe that this is thanks to being one of the first secular states of the continent, but with freedom of worship, and the great arrival of Europeans during the late 19th and mid 20th century They created a society very similar to knowledge and relfecion My grandfather is 88 years old and he is as a believer as I am, he always believe that the churches are like political parties, they only serve to indoctrinate, and kill freedom of thought and my 79-year-old grandmother believes more in San Expedito, but does not believe in divine creation or in the miracles of God. When I started studying evolution in my Catholic school, she was very interested in the subject, so much so that I even studied biology with me and began to read all my books about Megafauna Dinosaurs and human evolution. I really don't know that the people of Uruguay are so little like the church, many believe in God or gods in their own way (especially the older ones) But as Charles Darwin said, I have never known a people so ignorant, but at the same time so knowledgeable PD Sorry for my english

[@soycarlosalexis]

@@Dante_-cg3fq That's so cool! To be honest, my native language is Spanish, but the thread started in English, so I just went with the flow. haha Thanks for sharing your insights on the subject Dante. I got a bit confused when you said "I even studied biology with me". Do you mean your grandma started studying the subject with you?

[@Dante_-cg3fq]

@@soycarlosalexis Yep, despite the fact that she never finished high school, my grandmother was fascinated with the matter, she could not believe that such animals ever lived, she simply says if we had Gliptodontes instead of the armadillos, she would never have gone hungry in her childhood And despite the fact that she believes in the saints and God (in her own way), she believes that the evolution happened that the dinosaurs existed and that in some times there were armadillos of the size of her car XD

[@makky6239]

Não existe Natal no Uruguai? Que estranho

[@brotherandrew3393]

I have mixed feelings about this approach. Because if the stakes are too high I am discouraged and I even can no longer do as I could before. So if you don´t put this in perspective to God´s grace and love it will simply not work. What I mean is this "Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28-30)

[@yutuzz]

First time I watched the video thought it was good. I’ve already watched 3 times and I’m convinced it’s a master piece. Every time I watch it I see the point more clearly. Keep the good work! Thanks for the video!

[@karlazeen]

I think it boils down to the fact that people don't like being told what to do in life.

[@karlazeen]

@@tomasmccauley569 My point exactly

[@GigaNietzsche]

You sure about that? It seems as though corporate propaganda and materialism seemed to have taken that role. People love being told what to do

[@karlazeen]

@@GigaNietzsche Yeah those are other factors too I know it's not just one thing it's just my opinion that that's one of the main reasons. Also not all people like to be told what to do some want to live how they please and be happy that way, ya know what I mean?

[@hollybardoe4075]

@@GigaNietzschenot this person.

[@selimfurkandalgic9548]

Yes that is true. However they select other beliefs that tell them what to do. So I am not sure it is the case here.

[@MissCase530]

This aligns 100% with everything I've seen. People want lines drawn, they need it just like a kid needs a stern parent. The "everyone goes to heaven" thing that I've heard clergy pronounce gives people the idea that "hey, I'm saved so why do I need to go to church" which, after that comes apathy and heresy. Even worse, it makes the very simple and clear message of Christ into a vague, ecumenical sludge where if it feels good to you, its ok.

[@BrianMarshall1]

Grew up Catholic and saw the silence surrounding abuse, shaming of victims. I've heard the same story from people of many other denominations.

[@bradyhayes7911]

My thought there is that those who genuinely love Christ and want to be a part of the church, which He instituted, would commit themselves to improving the institution, rather than abandoning it. Any institution primarily managed by humans is fallible - we don't judge the validity of the Gospel solely by the goodness of its adherents (though true faith produces good works). We judge the validity of its adherents by the goodness of the Gospel. If they're in egregious error, we correct them.

[@juliocesarfabianosaboia7330]

@@bradyhayes7911 The Catholic Church is also a monarchy, there is no simple way to solve any of what happened and what's happening, it's extremely hard to get the Pope and the episcopate to move and act, it's easier to get a thick fortress wall to budge.

[@emmalee9747]

I am really enjoying your videos. Really thoughtful and cerebral insights into the Catholic Faith. You have given me lots of aha moments and I appreciate that.

[@albazi4745]

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[@BrentStrathdeePehi]

Thanks for the video - interesting topic. I am from New Zealand, a modern secular country, although traditionally a Christian country that is now very multicultural. I believe the single biggest reason for the decline in Christianity in the west is actually mainly due to secularism- let’s face it, we’ve relegated God to something we roll out if/when we feel like it and for increasing numbers of people that’s well - never! I’m actually a Muslim revert but I have respect for all people from any/all walks of life. To live as a practicing Muslim is a commitment that requires learning, time, prayer (5x daily), giving to charity, fasting etc. the rewards are well worth it, but as you say - the investment into it means we value it highly. In Islam we believe that EVERYTHING is God centred and that fosters an acknowledgement, gratitude and humility for simple things - the sun came up this morning- Alhamdulilah!☀️ Our modern western secularism admittedly has its benefits-freedom of choice is a positive. But in the process, most have simply removed God from their daily lives and this has caused the drastic decline of Christianity and the churches. I came to Islam after some months spent in Indonesia, a majority Muslim country. For all of their challenges of being a developing nation the biggest thing that struck me is that God and faith are at the centre of their daily lives - it’s not “religion” , it’s LIFE! I loved that and for the first time I realised that sadly, most westerners - including in my own country - have abandoned God...

[@harrymcnicholas9468]

Did you ever consider there is no God?

[@BrentStrathdeePehi]

Harry McNicholas sure - many times. Then I decided that the idea that this universe, humanity, nature etc is all just an epic fluke was LESS believable than believing in God 😁

[@harrymcnicholas9468]

You used bad reasoning. Nobody in science asks you to believe anything. Science is based upon facts. You check out the facts. God is not a fact but only a superstition with no validity.

[@BrentStrathdeePehi]

Harry McNicholas coolio Harry - I accept that that’s your view, each to their own. Our differing views dont hurt each other so we can agree to think differently, all good! I accept your views I’m sure your able to accept mine too 🙂

[@harrymcnicholas9468]

As long as they both are based upon facts and logic.

[@excelsior999]

Well done and very well presented. Dominus Vobiscum.

[@melvinsaji2805]

GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER ABUNDANTLY IN JESUS NAME AMEN 🙏❤️🙏 LOVE FROM INDIAN SYRIAN CHRISTIAN ❤️☺️

[@joekraimer5379]

liked looking at your bookshelf. Can't go wrong with those books.

[@solberg7049]

The church has lived through 2000 years of ups and downs. It will live on.

[@UriPhoneCracker]

The level of delusion is unreal

[@daveward1484]

Thank you for the insights into what I've been puzzling over for the past 25 years. I'm 80 years old, the church has always been the central part of my life. Now I see the increasing accommodation of the current cultures living style. The traditional church I've always known and loved is almost gone.

[@hknapp-hj2sn]

This is an established economic phenomenon; briefly stated: If it costs nothing, it's worth nothing.

[@kathinker7547]

Thank you ❤&🙏 from scotland

[@vipinvnath4011]

Your name should be Kathy or Cathy not Kathi

[@ShepherdMetalBand]

Very interesting insight. Keep up the good work!

[@brenosantana1458]

Nightcrest There is only one criator, the father, the son of man is a man. John 17 3, 1 Tim 2 5, heb 2 17.

[@readtruth6670]

I’m a protestant, it’s a trend everywhere in western cultures. If you believe in Christ as the risen Son of God, God in flesh, crucified for the forgiveness of sins-we’re in the same Church. I think God is just separating the sheep (those who truly believe) from the goats (those who don’t) Remember, Jesus drew people to Himself, but He also drove them away with hard teachings. Cling to Christ. With everything you’ve got. And when that doesn’t seem to be enough, ask God for more.

[@patrocle5670]

You explained the Sunk Cost Fallacy quite well

[@Tyler_W]

Right, that doesn't really seem like a good or sincere motivation tbh. It's true that you value things then more you appreciate what it cost to acquire it, but it kind of feels more like entrapment to say that you should stay committed to something after all of the time and energy you put into it. That's not the same as commitment for its own sake out of having value for the thing itself.

[@tr9809]

Amen, and I say that as an Anglican. Bonhoeffer called it 'cheap grace'

[@fenix_fresh]

Love your videos, man.

[@jamesandrews8698]

lmao i could tell by the thumbnail that he was an apologist, apparently jesus face is a real phenominae. also, lololol.

[@jamesandrews8698]

aaannddd, jesus prefers les pauls to the heathanistic strotocaster. noted. r. tarrrrrdddd. like for the al gore rhythm.

[@YenkammaNe]

WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality. 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism ☺ is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction"...

[@leekshikapinnamneni4835]

Part two of this video please. Maybe even a part three and four.

[@thebookdragon8662]

The desire to get back to the way things once were is an indication of a dying consensus. It also never works, the way things were changed for good reasons at the time and the majority of people will not tolerate turning back the clock. And so, getting back to the good old days would require the imposition of tyranny. All religions eventually die and are replaced by other religions. Christianity has had a good run and it certainly won't be gone anytime soon. But it is ultimately just another religion, and religions die.

[@zachwaddill7801]

The Book Dragon The crusifixion of Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. Catholics couldn't care less what the Bible says. There reasons for being there are now fulfilled elsewhere for them.

[@thebookdragon8662]

Hi Zach, Yes I realize that Christianity is your religion, but that doesn't invalidate anything I wrote in the previous comment.

[@desigamer8598]

But Christianity on the global level is not dying but rising.... Christianity gains millions of converts every year in Asia, Africa and South America...Though the west is dying it doesn’t mean Christianity on the whole will die out... Christianity is no longer white man’s religion.... I am an ex Hindu from India... even in my country(unlike China where people are converting to Christianity in droves) Christianity is gaining huge converts after the arrival of large scale tv broadcasting... and social media.....

[@pritam452]

@@desigamer8598 👏 which state are you belong?

[@marygr8064]

This is a great message!!!

[@marqgoldberg7454]

Looks like people are catching on, more and more, to the fact that Christianity makes no sense and is based on logical fallacies.

[@MeeMee-gz5vp]

Exactly.

[@pauld7522]

Great perspective! If you invest in something that is important to you, your involvement will remain strong. If the thing you do requires little effort, your attachment will be weak and you will drop it with very little pretense..

[@trlyons761]

You sir own the greatest book ever written besides of course the Bible and perhaps the Church Fathers! I am of course speaking of The Everlasting Man by G.K. Chesterton. It is my favorite book, I have read it hundreds of times and honestly believe the errors in thinking many fall victim to would disappear if everyone was required to read this book at least ten times and study it chapter by chapter. Also a similar benefit could be achieved by reading another book I saw on your shelf, Orthodoxy also by Chesterton. I'm also convinced that this clarity of thought would virtually raise everyone's IQ score by at least fifteen points.

[@Nonplused]

Some good points. I have often wondered why parents get so exited by youth sports, but when you look at it through the lens of the amount of money and time they spend on it, it begins to make sense. I suppose it could be true of professional sports too, where fan loyalty arises from the amount of money and time invested in the team of their choosing. However I think it would be diabolical of the church to use this philosophy. Perhaps more time invested should be encouraged, but raising the cost of admission? Not sure.

[@dr.ayodelerenner9353]

In Nigeria, we still hold pretty fast to the old ways. In the Lagos diocese, the days of obligation are the feast of the immaculate conception, ascension, the nativity, and the feast of all saints day. If there are no kneelers you kneel on the floor.

[@empressatheism5146]

Nigeria is for cavemen

[@Rynewulf]

Youre Nigerian thats not your old ways. Those are the ways a British army officer made you do at gunpoint. For goodness sake