The Reid Pass Option: Chiefs Run The Same RPO Five Times vs Bucs

[@vicmagnificent1595]

Literally the "Reid Pass Option"

[@tahakhalid5327]

Nice

[@Kyle36147]

Definitely will see this one. They get to leave JPP unblocked. kelce crossing and the play action forces him to freeze. Great play design for a team missing their LT

[@maceobeard2953]

Crazy content everytime

[@TheQBSchool]

appreciate ya

[@haha81Looc3bolt]

Should be a good game, I'm loving all the Bucs mania, just a Chiefs fan here quietly waiting to see what maniacal schemes Reid has been cooking up for 2 weeks, remember Big Red is really good coming off a bye, just sayin lol

[@yeahr1ghty]

@@markdavis7397 Bills > Packers Only reason packers were in NFC chip was their o-line + Aaron rodgers. Chiefs would've blown that Packers team out without Bakhtiari. They just make it look so easy that people think all their opponents are pushovers, but Chiefs can literally push over 31 teams when they choose to. 25-1

[@datsumcrzysht]

Yeah we in Philly know very well how AR was almost a lock after extra time off. He wasn’t elite with “in game adjustments” but now that he has so many weapons that were lacking in Philly, such issues may not matter.

[@sjc7642]

@@yeahr1ghty so you’re saying the packers were in the NFC championship because of their players? 🧐

[@brettviddal1593]

Remember Reid lost 3 Superbowls in Philly.

[@eddienash2095]

Looks like Reid playbook was stolen by Coach Red

[@therealSamG]

JT. Thank you for posting so many insightful videos. You make me watch the games different on Sunday, I swear. I'm gonna get with your patreon soon. You deserve it.

[@TheQBSchool]

Glad to hear it! Appreciate the support.

[@skrillaforilla9665]

You're breakdowns are AWESOME. Thanks

[@sportsdudethethird7094]

Knowing Andy Reid he's probably gonna know the Bucs are preparing for this concept and have like 5 different counters for it. Like what he did after the Browns 4th down play, he did the same play vs Buffalo on 4th down, except Tyreek became the decoy and they got it to the back in the flat for ez 1st down. Brilliant mind. I'd say the one design issue with the play is the risk of Mahomes getting hit when you read these people up on the line of scrimmage on a RPO, rather than reading linebackers. (but I'm not an expert maybe reading d-lineman has some benefits in RPOs)

[@steveaustin2686]

Yeah, it looks like the Bucs were moving in the late RPOs to head off the successes in the early RPOs the Chiefs had. Now, do the Bucs do the same when the Chiefs run it Sunday? Will the Bucs be looking for other changes in the RPO to offset what the Bucs were trying at the end of that game? Definitely going to be interesting. The Chiefs have tackles injured and/or out and the Bucs have safeties injured and/or out, so it will be on the backups to step up. The Bucs are definitely underdogs, but can win if they minimize mistakes and play well. Hoping for the Bucs to notch their second Super Bowl win. Go Bucs!

[@sportsdudethethird7094]

@@steveaustin2686 I respect your opinion. But go chiefs!

[@steveaustin2686]

@@sportsdudethethird7094 Well, one of us will be happy after the game no matter what. ;) Go Bucs! Go Bucs!

[@marcantoine5496]

After the first time they ran this RPO, Bucs DC Todd Bowles made a great adjustment rolling the corner to outside leverage every time Tyreke motioned to run the wheel. Andy Reid countered on the last play having Tyreke run a wheel and then a comeback, knowing the corner is going to be playing with outside leverage. It's a chess match fellas

[@eddienash2095]

Checkmate

[@TheMurdoc6982]

They've been running this for a couple years. I've mentioned it in madden forums to get it in the game. The Texans have been running it as well. The version with Tyreek in motion outs the defense in the most conflict.

[@sirGarald]

"Good luck stopping this." I don't know man, the Chiefs were virtually 1/5 here.

[@JeKramxel]

Bucs have a pretty good defense, I think you're underselling them. And it requires a great defense to stop a great offense.

[@marcantoine5496]

You're right about them stopping that play, solid effort by the d-line and great adjustments in the secondary by Todd Bowles put a clamp on that play quickly

[@skrillaforilla9665]

@@JeKramxel..as a CHIEFS fan, we've been hearing that over and over...I am ready for the game! Bucs are a good defense, Chiefs have A GOOD DEFENSE too. Everyone sleeping on them. LET'S GO CHIEFS

[@ducasartori]

First Bucs play of the game yesterday 👆🏼 BA saw your channel JT.

[@TheQBSchool]

Pretty close and pretty funny.

[@danmorgan7775]

Loving these videos on the Bucs and Chiefs leading up to the Superbowl. Getting me so hyped for Sunday.

[@TheQBSchool]

Glad to hear it!

[@combatsack]

Great video. One thing I would love to learn about are these Coaching trees. Some names I don't know, but I hear that this new coach comes from this tree etc.

[@TheQBSchool]

Great suggestion!

[@willbradford1887]

JT, great video as always. I'm a little confused though as to why Tyreek Hill wasn't an ineligible receiver on the final play. Doesn't he look like he's covered by the number 1 up top and they're both on the LOS? I'll need to rewatch the vid you did on this a few weeks ago because clearly none of the refs thought it was an issue lol. Thanks again and keep the videos coming!

[@TheQBSchool]

interesting. i didn't notice.

[@eddiemeekin9180]

Honestly massively considering your patreon. Just wish money wasn’t so tight these days but one day I will join!

[@TheQBSchool]

totally get it. thanks for thinking about it.

[@jamaaljohnson9124]

TB will have to bump down a defender an play and some cover 3. When they see the motion with Hill or another Wr they are out numbered on that side. In press man have to be more physical with the WR.

[@skrillaforilla9665]

Easier said than done. Then the run is open in the middle

[@jamaaljohnson9124]

@@skrillaforilla9665 SF and SD played a lot of cover 3 and were successful

[@raybord1]

Has no one figured out Reid shuts the play book once they have a lead. Every single game. These teams close the gap because kc stops showing them new things.

[@TheQBSchool]

no one

[@raybord1]

@@TheQBSchool lmao, well finally someone.

[@scottrowlandrowland1098]

Reid has been playing possum all year. The fact that a team won 7 games in a row by 6 or less is not worth worry its impressive. Then they exploded in the playoffs, I believe Reid and spags didn't adjust on purpose in this game to save their cards for another day.

[@thecryingshame]

Awesome video JT! Can't wait for the SB live streams!

[@TheQBSchool]

Tomorrow!

[@alforeman3297]

Nice breakdown. Go Chiefs!

[@steviekeas]

I don’t think it is surprising that they ran the same RPO 5 times. Reid was going vanilla all season, so why pull out more plays and reveal more? They’re probably going to have some new wrinkles ready in the SB based off of this formation. I look forward to your post-game breakdowns.

[@TheQBSchool]

thanks. appreciate the support.

[@skrillaforilla9665]

Crazy how EVERY sports channel I watch is talking ALL BUCCANEERS??? My Chiefs are sitting back just waiting. We just have to play OUR game. #CHIEFSKINGDOM

[@TheQBSchool]

Really?

[@varietygaming6579]

Probably cuz it’s Brady and also no one expected them to make the super bowl

[@skrillaforilla9665]

@@varietygaming6579 .. Yeah, Brady had only been to 9 other SUPERBOWLS...

[@GRosas-zz9mh]

Looking at the Bit that Rogers took; it's nothing compared to the KO that KC and Mahomes got! GO TB,TB,TB, TB; TNT,TNT DEFENSE.

[@coachwalk7485]

You made a point of saying 5 times. About how many would you run the same play in an nfl game? Or is it because it’s a rpo that 5 is crazy high

[@TheQBSchool]

i think 5 is a lot.

[@kethibqere]

Good video.

[@TheQBSchool]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mouhamedlaminetall3490]

I want to know different fumbles situation. Please do a video about that with examples to explain fumble rules.

[@TheQBSchool]

Fumble school?

[@mouhamedlaminetall3490]

@@TheQBSchool Lool you already did "illegal formation" course. It was very interesting and helpful. it was Illegal Formation school ?

[@10oneluv10]

About how many times does a team run the same play in a game on average?

[@jvc8947]

5 is a lot for Chiefs.

[@yeahr1ghty]

Typically teams only run their "good" plays multiple times, the average play is not usually repeated in a game unless it is a very basic play like inside zone run or mesh. So it depends on the scheme and coach. For the Chiefs, using the same play 5 times is incredibly rare, they probably average less than 2 repetitions of every play because of how many plays and variations they have. Greg Roman offenses, they call the same play 3-6 times a game frequently. Runs or passes, their playbook is fairly simple and Roman likes to repeat play calls.

[@TheQBSchool]

Depends on team. Regardless, I think 5 is a lot.

[@HunterDavisTubaPlaying]

Go Chiefs

[@jasontheauralnaut7268]

would you say 'its exactly the same RPO, 5 times'?

[@unclephill4764]

How does this work with blockers... The left side tackle is 3 yards up field when the ball is thrown. Are they going to get called for that?

[@zachary56]

I think there's a common misconception about how the ineligible receiver downfield rule works. In the NFL, an ineligible player who is *continuously blocking* an opponent has no restriction on moving downfield before the pass (as long as they started blocking before moving more than a yard downfield). It's only if you aren't blocking anyone that you aren't allowed to move more than a yard downfield. Note that this rule is different in the NCAA, where it's a hard limit of three yards past the line of scrimmage regardless of blocking, with one exception: when the pass doesn't cross the line of scrimmage (e.g. a screen pass or shovel pass).

[@xXMc1ovinXx]

imagine if GB had the talent of KC because i think GB play calling i think has better schemes relying on to get dudes open compared to sheer talent to get ppl open

[@CJFloden]

Obviously none of us are in the room, however, are full on passing concepts as RPOs like this typically read as a whole or individually? Meaning, is Mahomes keying a particular route of the RPO based on a pre-snap look and then pulling post-snap, or is it all taking place post-snap?

[@JudislavHolmski]

He’s first of all reading the defensive end then reading all of the routes to see which one is most open. Which is very hard to do so fast. Because if he’s not quick enough his linemen will be down field because they will assume the balls been handed off

[@JudislavHolmski]

Also for the little glance route. That usually depends on what the line backer tries to play;the run or staying with the route

[@TheQBSchool]

hard to know for sure. guessing it's a post snap DE read. Presnap space awareness for the glance/wheel

[@CJFloden]

@@TheQBSchool That’s what I had thought, it seems next to impossible to read the DE reaction and the whole concept out at the same time. It is Patrick Mahomes though. Are there teams that will ask Quarterbacks to do that while post-snap reading a DE?

[@HeliosWrath]

The Reid Pat Option.

[@TheQBSchool]

🤯

[@TheQBSchool]

Used it one Twitter. Thanks.

[@mevrammcoyoteV8f150]

QB school dude...probably rooting for Brady and the Buccs Sunday

[@KeepinClassy]

Wait, how many times did they run it?

[@vijayvarghese1652]

4?

[@TheQBSchool]

classy

[@eddienash2095]

Looks like Reid's playbook was stolen by Coach Red

[@christianholland5844]

Go Chiefs!

[@rubytuesday9539]

Hold on, fastest guy in the NFL? Scotty M is on the Bucs

[@billringo410]

Key to stopping the play: Go all world and wreck the play.

[@TheQBSchool]

Bingo

[@thedreadedbaker8493]

I'm sorry. You should stop lying to people. You aren't J.T O'Sullivan. Youre the WFT QB Alex Smith. LMAO!!! jk bro. Glad I stumbled onto this channel.

[@accridelich7369]

Looks like you have to make every open space look occupied to the QB & watch then swarm to the ball. The key is not to tackle the ball carrier right away. The first defender there must hold the carrier upright & the 2nd/3rd defenders there must strip or put a helmet on the ball to force the T/O. Just like defending against the double wing or zone run, every defender MUST occupy their area/space. A young defense likes to immediately pursue & get themselves out of position. This says that PM is not too bright as he is not running actual plays. Let's see how he would do against a Ray Lewis/Ed Reed led defense.

[@davidgrider4302]

One beautiful triangle on that first RPO

[@_purble]

A day later than originally advertised ;-) But love the content

[@callmewisdom]

Pfft, I run the same play in madden 30 times in the same game in Madden.

[@Chris53748]

69th like, still 0 dislikes. Pretty damn nice

[@Inertia888]

149:1 still pretty nice!

[@TheQBSchool]

there is always one

[@prpleplanet5547]

Early squaaaad!

[@CMCFLYYY]

Honestly I feel like this play has great potential, but Mahomes didn't run it all that well. Instead of just a slant or bubble screen, it's basically creating a Flood on the backside of a runplay. A "high", intermediate, and underneath read. Normally a Flood concept would take too long to run - not even Hill can run a Dig/Out/Cross in less than a second - so you usually can't pair Flood with a run-option. BUT, if you use jet-action as KC does here, you can get a WR threatening fairly deep on that outside wheel. A jet wheel, flat by TE, all paired with a run off the "strong" side. The 1st play the SMB is way too pressed up and gets beat by the wheel, but the slant and flat are open too because of how aggressive Winfield and White play the run. The Bucs really just butchered the entire play on this one and all 3 pass-reads were open. The 2nd time, as mentioned, SMB is much further off the ball so he can easily stay on top of the wheel. Plus both Winfield and White are much less aggressive this time, which is why the run works so well. This was 2nd-and-3, so anyone calling this 6yd run a "win" by the defense is wrong. The first RPO scared the Bucs into playing more passive the 2nd time, so now they get burned by the run instead allowing an easy 1st down conversion. So the Bucs lost the first 2, but the Mahomes blows the next couple. On the 3rd play, Cockrell is playing off against the wheel so that's shut down, and some excellent weak-side coverage by Lavonte David shuts down both the slant and then Kelce in the flat. Spoiler alert, not many LBs can shut down a SWR slant and account for an elite TE like Kelce in the flat. But as noted in the video, if Mahomes handed this one off instead it likely goes for a big gain. They had 5 on 4 in the box and with Barrett peeling underneath Kelce to rush Mahomes there's no read-defender to make a back-side tackle on the run this time. The 4th play the Bucs were in man with Cockrell on Kelce, trailing him as he cross underneath the OL into the flat. Mahomes should've recognized this and dumped it to Kelce, who likely could've manhandled the smaller corner and converted the 1st down. Instead he hands it off, which isn't a terrible decision if Suh doesn't blow the play up as detailed. With 5 on 4 in the box again, this should've been an easy run for a 4yd conversion on 3rd own, if Suh doesn't blow it up. But he doesn't get a chance to blow it up if Mahomes recognizes man and dumps it to wide-open Kelce in the flat. The last play is also on Mahomes. This time it's Devin White instead of Lavonte David trying to play both the slant and the flat, and he does it poorly. With the corner playing so soft and White blowing his assignment, this ball should've gone to the WR slant. White overplays the flat* hard and instead of just waiting 1 second for the slant/curl to open up Mahomes forces it to Hill on the sideline. The bottom line on this one is, by this point the Bucs had obviously adjusted to the play - really they had figured it out after the 1st time. Play off on the outside to eat up the wheel, have a LB cover the slant and then feed down to the flat if the ball is checked down. This leaves them vulnerable against the run, as seen by the 6yd conversion and the 4yd conversion they would've had without Suh blowing it up. Both runs would've gone for >6yd 1st downs, and Mahomes should've handed it off a 3rd time for another substantial gainer. What Reid should've done is tweaked the route combo on the backside. If the CB is going to play so far off and over the top of the wheel, then have Hill just run to the flat and square up for a screen instead. Have the WR throw a block on the LB responsible for the flat, and then peel off into a spot route behind him once he fights through. Have Kelce come around and just screen block for Hill. Yea it's only a 2-read option this time, but it would capitalize on the corner playing so soft and the LB playing soft to cover the slant. Throw the screen to Hill with Kelce blocking, and make the D respect it and force them to come up and press again next time. Then you throw the Wheel/Slant/Flood back at them. Don't run the exact same routes 4 times a game. They need to adjust like the Bucs adjusted. He opened the video talking about how on this type of play, the read-defender is always wrong. Well after the defense adjusts to better cover your option play, you need to adjust your play design so the defense is always wrong again.

[@TheQBSchool]

Wow. Impressive. Thanks for sharing.

[@CMCFLYYY]

@@TheQBSchool None of this was against you my man! Big fan of your work, and I do agree with your take that the play design is deadly even if they didn't operate it the greatest in this game. My post was directed at a lot of the comments I saw saying "iT oNlY wOrKeD 1 oUt oF FiVe TiMeS BiG dEaL". I watch every one of your videos start to finish keep 'em comin'!

[@VicInNocal]

Tyreek is going forward b4 the snap on the first and last play, as was Davante Adams vs the Rams 2 weeks ago. I hope that rule doesn't go the way of the carrying rule in basketball where the refs just stopped calling it.

[@TheQBSchool]

rules are meant to be bent

[@treyarea413]

Man I hate the chiefs but Reid is such a good play caller/designer. Such a great feel for when to call what

[@TheQBSchool]

he is at his peak rn

[@kimaniking3941]

One of them DE needs to blast Kelce in the backfield every time they run that play! Problem solve cause this guy is soft! Hit him on every play and he gonna fold like a lil girl

[@jvc8947]

Have you even seen Kelce block? Dude is a solid athlete instead of just tall and heavy. He is also very smart.

[@donarmstrong2182]

Look at the video again, kelce levels the DE and puts him on his back. This is the worst take i have ever read. 9:44

[@kimaniking3941]

@@donarmstrong2182 kelce not a good blocker cuz! The patriots used to demolished him on the line of scrimmage on every down. Watch the tape that’s how you contain his soft ass! If don’t hit him on the line he going to have a field day