The Rhythms of Joropo

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Jazz at Lincoln Center's JAZZ ACADEMY

Jazz at Lincoln Center's JAZZ ACADEMY

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@masterofpuppets4891
@masterofpuppets4891 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the Venezuelan music is a hidden jewell, you have to listen the "onda nueva", valses and Merengues, the jazz and venezuelan rythms take another dimensión there.
@rotom223
@rotom223 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I am Venezuelan and while I have played our music on piano for many years I have never heard the specifics of how to play it on drum set. God bless u and your work here
@masterofpuppets4891
@masterofpuppets4891 4 жыл бұрын
Listen, the onda nueva
@N0rmad
@N0rmad 2 жыл бұрын
This music was *the* definitive sound of house parties in the region of Colombia where I was born. Even though we moved to Canada early on it was still a staple of everyday life in my house hold. Never thought I'd hear it discussed in a jazz video. Very cool.
@jsmillie23
@jsmillie23 6 жыл бұрын
Love this mic setup. Guessing there’s an overhead out of the shot. Best 4 channel setup
@stephenpopovichl122
@stephenpopovichl122 2 жыл бұрын
Bobby is so so good-wow- what a great introduction to the these various countries music. He is truly great!! Thank you Bobby
@oliversanchez9898
@oliversanchez9898 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting this video but there are a couple things to considerate. First: "Joropo" isn't an only one genre in Venezuela. This pattern is an adaptation of a 3/4 form of "Musica llanera" and is too far from the original rythmic pattern of those genres. Second: There are two types of Joropo. 3/4 and 6/8 "golpes" (pulse) derivating in more than 60 styles or as we know "Golpes". Frank Hernandez took this patern mainly of the afrovenezuelan rythms, specifically the "culo e' puya". taking de "cruzao" drum as the base of this pattern. Maybe Frank doesen't take this pattern intentionaly but, the pattern don't lie. In third place there are a little mistake about accent. In this video master Bobby Sanabria says that the Bass drums make a 3-1 accent when in the original accent in pattern of 3/4 Joropo is 2-3. There are many venezuelan drummers that plays those rythmes keeping the original pattern of maracas and the "basses" of venezuelan Harp. And talking about harp, this instrument doesen't a tradional one in joropo. he was introduced in earlies 50's in Caracas. the firts Harp player in "Joropo" was Ignacio Figueredo. The Harp in venezuelan traditional music waas introduced searchig a more stylized style.
@oliversanchez9898
@oliversanchez9898 3 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Feige Please could you argue why what I have said is wrong?
@ViceSociety
@ViceSociety 3 жыл бұрын
Can you recoimmend a 6/8 musical recording with Joropo as the driving rhythm, especially a version with drums. I would love to hear something like that. Thanks.
@fenrirwolf7238
@fenrirwolf7238 2 жыл бұрын
@@ViceSociety search for Cheo Hurtado’s Album: Cuatro Arpas y un Cuatro
@ViceSociety
@ViceSociety 2 жыл бұрын
@@fenrirwolf7238 Awesome thanks!
@mariopalomo9691
@mariopalomo9691 6 жыл бұрын
Gracias señor...Bello ritmo Venezolano... Podria subir mas acerca de la fusion del Rimode la ONDA NUEVA interpretada por Frank y Aldamero ?
@paulcombs-bomuse6172
@paulcombs-bomuse6172 4 жыл бұрын
Gracias Maestro.
@mariopalomo9691
@mariopalomo9691 6 жыл бұрын
Un millon de gracias maestro !!!
@peterkori8142
@peterkori8142 2 жыл бұрын
The Legend himself.
@aleanaparra1672
@aleanaparra1672 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was awesome!!
@luigitimba
@luigitimba 4 жыл бұрын
Maestro excelente explicación, y muy educativa, saludos desde Venezuela.
@salaopen-official
@salaopen-official 6 жыл бұрын
Good explination, so detailed and didactic!
@RodrigoRecabarren
@RodrigoRecabarren 2 жыл бұрын
So useful! Thanks for sharing.
@Riddim4
@Riddim4 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this.
@crieverytim
@crieverytim 3 жыл бұрын
That's one spicy waltz! 🤣
@onebadhombre7158
@onebadhombre7158 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds similar to the Mexican huapango/zapateado and the merequetengue
@fenrirwolf7238
@fenrirwolf7238 2 жыл бұрын
To be more specific, Joropo goes back and forth from 3/4 to 6/8 and viceversa
@joseleaci2802
@joseleaci2802 Жыл бұрын
Master...
@AaronMatthews71
@AaronMatthews71 4 жыл бұрын
nice
@johntorresmusic7905
@johntorresmusic7905 4 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis, I just have to add that the joropo is a rhythm (shared) from Venezuela and Colombia, that's why for example the harp is called "Arpa criolla Colombo Venezolana".
@masterofpuppets4891
@masterofpuppets4891 4 жыл бұрын
No is not, the Venezuelan Joropo have 7 types: Guyanes, Central, Oriental, Andino, Mirandino, Llanero, Maracaibo with 4 centuryes old. Colombia just adopted the Llanero since 1960, before, they didnt know about the Venezuelan harp (34/32 Strings) this harp exist since 1700, taking from all geográfic things, taking her final shape 32 Strings, and metal String sometimes, not even exist a "criolla harp", is a Venezuelan harp, just like a Venezuelan cuatro or a brazilian cavaquinho. So, he is right, is a Venezuelan music.
@johntorresmusic7905
@johntorresmusic7905 4 жыл бұрын
@@masterofpuppets4891 In Colombia there is the Joropo Llanero, the Joropo Andino that is from the South (Near to Ecuador), and the Fandango, that is previous from the Joropo and some people refers that to the root of the Joropo and is from the Caribbean Region (North), also Venezuela and Colombia where 1 country as you know in that time, so that Folklore is bigger than a Venezuelan rhythm, but, of course Venezuela have a huge influence in that one.
@masterofpuppets4891
@masterofpuppets4891 4 жыл бұрын
@@johntorresmusic7905 not it all. 1. The joropo and every rythms in América came from the "discovery of América", the joropo came from fandango like a evolution, precisally, from Sucre, Who adopted that rythm and take a "venezuelan rythm", the Venezuelan cuatro (exist a complete family) , bandola (dont forget that instrument is venezuelan too, éxits 4 venezuelan bandolas) and the harp (3 types of venezuelan harp) , its a perfect example: the Venezuelan cuatro came from a laúd and guitar, her take shape in every rythms there. The Venezuelan harp too, its a "personality" venezuelan, firts taking 34 Strings for valses and 32 Strings after for tuyero, Llanero and central music, nothing relating to new granade. 2. They was a country, with Ecuador, Panamá, Bolivia, Perú, just for 11 years, since 1819 to 1830, that time during "The great Colombia" (name came from Venezuela, too). The joropo take a Venezuelan shape since 1580 (the first instruments and music) all rythms in all country thats why 7 differents types (with that infinity "golpes"). The birth have 4 endémics centurys. With that argument "one country", means the vallenato, cumbia, Peruvian gastronomy and every culture manifestation from that countryes are venezuelan just for that 11 years??? Its a Venezuelan folklore, and become more bigger because its culture, just like the bossa nova from brasil, the ranchera from México, the tango from Argentina, rythms adopted for every World but knowing her origins, like the vallenato or cumbia from Colombia, or there is not a "same country" (for 11 years), and "folklore bigger than Colombia rythms"??? agenciadenoticias.unal.edu.co/detalle/article/el-arpa-llanera-innovacion-que-conserva-historia.html revistas.javeriana.edu.co/index.php/univhumanistica/article/view/9972 www.radionacional.co/especiales-paz/david-parales-hombre-que-trajo-arpa-a-colombia There are just a few colombian bibliography that support what I say, Check out, i have dozens and dozens.
@Hackfrost13
@Hackfrost13 6 жыл бұрын
parecido a la marinera peruana
@silverghostc6
@silverghostc6 4 жыл бұрын
Cesar Guadalupe me parece que es el mismo patrón
@fiestalatinalamolina1836
@fiestalatinalamolina1836 2 жыл бұрын
Es el mismo solo que pega la baqueta en vez de pegar el parche
@blerkh
@blerkh 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what those two mics used on the drum set are?
@fiestalatinalamolina1836
@fiestalatinalamolina1836 2 жыл бұрын
Bobby eso más que Joropo suena a Marinera Peruana
@jaylindr3723
@jaylindr3723 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Honduran punta
@rubencasarez17
@rubencasarez17 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds almost like Guapango Brother.
@nestorperez1860
@nestorperez1860 2 жыл бұрын
Joropo come from Colombia y Venezuela
@drumstudiomonchengladbach8131
@drumstudiomonchengladbach8131 Жыл бұрын
An interesting video BUT... A few centuries ago - long before the USA even existed - a method was found to write down musical events. Today this method is called "notation" or "notes"! Apparently the "Lincoln Center" hasn't heard about it yet. But it is worth learning this method, because a picture often says more than a thousand words Just try it once!!
@ElJibaro718
@ElJibaro718 4 ай бұрын
Not everyone knows how to read music. You're talking about Lincoln Center, one of the premiere music venues in the world. I'm pretty sure that they know about notation, but thanks for the input..
@juansecar2
@juansecar2 2 жыл бұрын
Joropo is venezuelan, and colombian dude... watch out!
@rhod-wulf6724
@rhod-wulf6724 Жыл бұрын
No, Joropo is a Venezuelan tradition, adopted by Colombia.
@juansecar2
@juansecar2 Жыл бұрын
@@rhod-wulf6724 no señor, es tan colombiano el joropo como la cumbia, es llanero y los llanos van desde venezuela a colombia y viceversa, es tradición de los dos países y de ninguno, así como los indios wayú no son ni vzolanos ni colombianos y pasan de la guajira a vzuela cuando y como quieren.
@rhod-wulf6724
@rhod-wulf6724 Жыл бұрын
@@juansecar2 El pequeño problemita con lo que dices es que el Joropo no nace en los llanos, sino en el oriente de Venezuela, además de que en llano Colombiano no conocían el Joropo hasta mediados del siglo xx.
@speedysteve9121
@speedysteve9121 4 жыл бұрын
Joropo needs no drums.
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