The Rise and Fall of Music LEGEND Joe Meek

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Jim Driver

Jim Driver

Күн бұрын

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@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
Watching it back, I realise I talked about "the basement" and everyone knows Joe's flat was three floors above Mrs Shenton's handbag shop. By basement, I meant the bottom floor of Joe's three-storey flat - honest, guv!!
@citizen1163
@citizen1163 8 ай бұрын
I always think of Joe Meek when I walk past his flat. The plaque is too high up & the plaque on the bench is easily missed. He deserves so much more recognition. Thanks for this wonderful vid. Liked & subscribed.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and for liking and subscribing! Joe Meek's contributions to our music history are remarkable and should be more widely known and acknowledged.
@Weyjx
@Weyjx 15 күн бұрын
I was nine when Telstar came out I remember what a new sound that was. I loved have I the right by the honeycombs the electrifying sound is the same
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 14 күн бұрын
Yes, I can vaguely remember hearing them on the radio when I was a little boy. They certainly changed pop music in the UK for the better. Cheers!
@graceq2280
@graceq2280 Жыл бұрын
It's a fascinating story, such a shame that it ended so tragically. I love his records I never get tired of hearing them
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
Joe Meek was one of a kind. And like nearly all geniuses, he was a bit of a handful to be around…
@Buzzer365
@Buzzer365 Жыл бұрын
In those days shotgun licenses were freely available at post office counters, 10/6 I think they were. I had friends who used 410's for ratting, and we all lived in N London. Ref my photo at 7:33, I only have one 'N' in Denis, and I had quit the Joe Meek Society a few years previously.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences, Denis. It's always interesting to hear about how things were from the people actually involved in it all.
@thekitowl
@thekitowl 4 ай бұрын
You probably realise the gun didn’t belong to Joe, it was left at the studio by Heinz.
@northnsouth6813
@northnsouth6813 Жыл бұрын
The Telstar lawsuit started in March 1963 in France, grew into a clash with experts and counter experts and took five years. During this time the British Copyright Protection Society - as done automatically in cases like this - froze the still accumulating Telstar royalties on a blocked account. The judges didn't impute any intention of plagiarism to Meek, but they verdicted that indeed there were parallels between Telstar and Ledrut's film music, so Ledrut obtained £8500. Unfortunately, Meek wasn't on this earth anymore when the verdict was delivered. The royalties from the blocked account went to his heirs. But nobody gained wealth with this money. Only for Ivy Music, the publisher of the composition Telstar, a pie fell from heaven, but most of the remaining money had to be used to make good Meek's tax and rent dues, overdrawn bank accounts and other debts.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. Thanks for the information and thanks for commenting.
@michaelmckelvey5122
@michaelmckelvey5122 3 ай бұрын
From what I remember, Heinz used the shotgun for shooting when not on tour out in the countryside. After they had a row and fell out, Heinz moved out all his gear but forgot about the gun under the bed.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. That’s the official version but David search into there was something darker at play. We shall probably never know!
@DianeWolstenholme
@DianeWolstenholme 14 күн бұрын
Apparently Telstar was Margret Thatcher’s favourite record!
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 14 күн бұрын
I hear Maggie had great taste in music. A big fan of Crass and Poison Girls,, I'm cold… 😀 But seriously, thanks for watching and thank you for taking the time to comment. Cheers!
@DianeWolstenholme
@DianeWolstenholme 10 күн бұрын
@ I’ve been really enjoying your videos my friend, thanks for getting in touch.
@johnrobertson8263
@johnrobertson8263 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Jim
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much,John. I really appreciate that!
@NBNAKITA
@NBNAKITA 5 ай бұрын
Amazing Video.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Please keep watching!
@thekitowl
@thekitowl 3 ай бұрын
It’s not far fetched that Meek built a television set, a relative of mine built one in the early 60’s from a kit .
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I think it was possible, and I believe he did. Meek built his TV set way before the 1960s. He was a schoolboy then, so it was probably in the late 1940s. Thanks for sharing that. Cheers!
@kennethnorman8079
@kennethnorman8079 8 ай бұрын
I think Joe Meek's murder and subsequent suicide had more to do with the fact the police had found a murdered boy stuffed in a suitcase with the initials on it that lead back to Meek and the net was closing.
@ljones2087
@ljones2087 Ай бұрын
Meek was cleared of it. Also the kill location was a considerable distance from his home which is uncharacteristic of killers. Meek's almost never left his studio so going so far afield to commit a gruesome murder would be entirely uncharacteristic of him, not to mention he has no ties to any other murders.
@kennethnorman8079
@kennethnorman8079 Ай бұрын
@ Never heard that he was “cleared”, just that the investigation stalled after his death. If you think about it another way, Meeks proclivities with young men could have easily gone awry and he panicked. The murder of his landlady and his suicide could have been the final acts of that panic. Fact is, we’ll never truly know because the police didn’t care and there was no one left to arrest. My problem is that some people totally leave out this incident when writing about Meek. It’s like when people leave out John Lennon’s penchant for domestic violence or the fact that Bob Marley’s manager stated that Bob had to be the one to kill the last remaining gunman who shot he and his wife. People want to construct and stick by their airbrushed “legend”. Just saying.
@christoguichard4311
@christoguichard4311 Жыл бұрын
My dad used to play this non-stop when I was a kid...😊 Matt Bellamy of Muse dad played guitar on that song. Joe Meek was a genuine genius. Lots of players passed though his studio, including Ritchie Blackmore.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
Joe Meek was undoubtedly a genius but, at the same time, he would have been an absolute nightmare to work with!
@theculturedthug6609
@theculturedthug6609 Жыл бұрын
Such a shame. I believe if he lived on he would have made many more hits in the 70s and 80s.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's always interesting to speculate what could have been if the creative genius Joe Meek had had more time to create music, especially with all the technical innovations that came after his death…
@AndyMangele
@AndyMangele 10 ай бұрын
Joe Meek was a highly interesting producer to say the least - but unfortunately not quite right in the head. 😕
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 10 ай бұрын
Joe Meek was, without a doubt, a unique character in the music industry, and he definitely had his problems!
@AndyMangele
@AndyMangele 10 ай бұрын
@@JimDriver Phil Spector comes to mind. 😉
@christopherth
@christopherth 3 ай бұрын
Drummer in the bathroom ?
@JimDriver
@JimDriver 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't that by The Beat? 😎🤓
@xwsftassell
@xwsftassell Жыл бұрын
Oh no!!! Do you think Heinz did it???
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
I really don't know but I do think there's a lot more we didn't get told about all that happened in the run-up to the fateful day. Whether it was my imagination or not, when I went round the flat in the 1990s, there was a strong air of doom and melancholy about the place which had been a centre for major creativity for many years…
@michaelmckelvey5122
@michaelmckelvey5122 3 ай бұрын
No, not possible as his assistant, Patrick Pink was there and witnessed the whole thing.
@ljones2087
@ljones2087 Ай бұрын
@@JimDriver that insinuation is preposterous. Also your assertion that somebody would in their sober mind, shoot themselves to death to protect somebody else is simply fantastic.
@MrBrynmair
@MrBrynmair Жыл бұрын
George Martin was being very clever actually, almost anybody would agree.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t argue with you. Old George always had his head screwed on!
@invisibleray6987
@invisibleray6987 Жыл бұрын
Humphrey Lyttleton.. Telstar sad film
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
I think the film was more about entertainment and fitting everything into 90 minutes (or whatever) rather than being a historical document…
@invisibleray6987
@invisibleray6987 Жыл бұрын
@@JimDriver The film was entertaining, but it was just a dramatic retelling of the BBC ARENA SPECIAL
@johnrobertson8263
@johnrobertson8263 Жыл бұрын
i agree@@JimDriver
@edmondscott7444
@edmondscott7444 Жыл бұрын
Dreadful noise accompaniment ruins video please delete.
@JimDriver
@JimDriver Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. It seems the older you get, the less you like the backing music. I'll take it on board…
@johnrobertson8263
@johnrobertson8263 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy the guys work, not complaining
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