The Rise and Fall of Valencia

[@MrOfficialSongz]

I remember Valencia kits were selling more than some popular premier league clubs in early 2000’s they had an international fan base

[@kingbokor]

You knew the owner was bad when he appointed untested Gary Neville 😂

[@arsenalunsungplays5188]

He’s a Liverpool fan….

[@omother942]

Or crooked

[@lamlam9044]

😂

[@rashidkhalid3970]

His not Spanish never played in Spain managed in England or Spain didn't learn managing from any top managers. How did he get a job at one of big end teams in Spain especially when other top managers from across Europe were around.

[@THEADZBRADZ]

It's actually very sad as a Valencia fan. This club deserves a better owner.

[@Mixcoatl]

I've always had a soft sport for Valencia. It once seemed like they might be able to challenge the dominance of the big 2.5 in Spain. I'm sad it never came to pass.

[@alwewy2079]

2 and a half😂😂

[@shaikaftab1199]

Love the 2.5 🤣. Altetico shoot themselves half the time.

[@alphonseelric5722]

They were a big team in Europe up from late 90s up until 2004.

[@Scallion_D]

Atletico weren't a thing when Valencia were challenging the Big 2 and challenging in the CL. They were either in Segunda or mid-table in La Liga.

[@dinohermann1887]

​@@Scallion_D So kinda like Man City before the Abu Dhabi takeover in '08, right?

[@SergioRPerez]

I remembered Valencia playing so well the UCL final against Bayern. Hope this club can recover and comeback to the glory days.

[@P3rfil]

All Europe was Valencia´s fan that day

[@joewi100]

I'm a Valencia fan and this is such a good piece! Not easy for foreign media to have such a clear picture of what's going on locally, you love to see it!

[@anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023]

Fun fact: Valencia is one of only three clubs (alongside Stade de Reims and Atletico Madrid) to have played in more than one European Cup/Champions League final without ever having won the trophy.

[@noah_mantel]

stade de reims is crazy

[@jmckendry84]

Feel free to just give the fact... you don't need to prefix it with fUN fAcT

[@comeandsaygg4444]

What about Arsenal?

[@mrw999]

@@bradleyg7498 ?

[@THEmajnik]

@@comeandsaygg4444 Arsenal have played in just one UCL/European cup final, in 2006

[@anamitrasikdar9115]

Valencia were for a very long time the 3rd best team in Spain and is still the third most supported Spanish club in Spain. It's really sad to see their downfall. Hope they stay up this season and manage to stay in La Liga for the foreseeable future. It's never nice to see big clubs going down.

[@edguy6738]

More than Sevilla and Atletico?

[@anamitrasikdar9115]

@@edguy6738 Yes

[@samelmudir]

​@@edguy6738 yes and betis was the bigger club in Seville until recently

[@taliamason7986]

@@edguy6738 Way more than both of them.

[@edguy6738]

@@samelmudir Oh really, I always assumed Sevilla was the biggest club in Spain after Real, Barca and Atletico

[@mhkpt]

When Peter Lim's daughter put on Instagram that they own the club and can do whatever they like with it, I was livid, and I'm not even a Valencia fan. Anyone who would say that about my own club would be thrown out the same day.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

The Fall of Valencia quite sad. It's gonna end up being like the fall of Sunderland, Blackburn Rovers and Nottingham Forest with all there history.. 😢

[@isaacfung622]

And Schalke 04

[@ogbmt]

*their

[@taliamason7986]

@@isaacfung622 Hamburg too

[@highdefinitionstanleytm9614]

Blackburn rovers don't really have any history a better example would of been Leeds.

[@metro3313]

​@@highdefinitionstanleytm9614 Blackburn are a bigger club then Leeds

[@monkeykong5313]

Thank you for this video, it’s terrible how Valencia has been run but it is also a huge shame that so few people outside Spain seem to care (and that those running Spanish football don’t care either)

[@Scallion_D]

Well said.

[@sudiptab57]

Goes to show how much a good owner is necessary for a club to thrive

[@justsomeguy2743]

It’s not tho you only need a competent one

[@gloryboy69]

​@@justsomeguy2743 i think that's what he meant by "good owner"

[@bierbaron1616]

Or better, there aren't any owners, so the clubs belong to the fans who support them

[@sudiptab57]

@atkascha That's why Todd Boehly brought Lampard back

[@sudiptab57]

@@bierbaron1616 hehe, wishful thought

[@xxitactical_8723]

Valencia have always been my favourite Spanish club when I visited Valencia and were so kind to me

[@kole081]

I pray to god they don't get relegated. That club played a major role in my childhood.

[@parashit2181]

During the Genius Emery reign, Valencia got Villa, Mata, and Silva. I though, damn they would be better than Rafa Benitez era. Then, all of sudden they blew the team up 😅 They also still have Vicente, Joaquin, Banega, Pablo Hernandez. One of the most exiting offensive team in the world.

[@ApocalypticRenegade]

The fact that other than Marcelino no manager has been able to halt the problems with the club tells you everything. If your club can go basically a decade with different managers and players and get nowhere then the club is being horribly mismanaged. A shame as I had a soft spot for Valencia, one of those clubs who always seemed on the verge of greatness.

[@Mack17.g]

They were in the last 16 of UCL just 3 years ago. I was so surprised when I saw them in the relegation zone this season. Sad, like Schalke and Leicester.

[@memememe908]

Dont let the table fool you, as a schalke fan the last 2 years are the beginning of a new start, avoiding past mistakes and in general the club is connected with the fans again, its been a blessing after years of mismanagement. Sure we got relegated and might go down again, but sometimes things need to break before they get fixed

[@taliamason7986]

@@memememe908 You guys have seriously turned things around in recent months after a horrible start to the season that looked like almost certain doom. Now this is genuine chance of survival. Incredibly tough especially after the recent Freiberg thrashing but possible nonetheless.

[@rashidkhalid3970]

When was Leicester a big club they weren't never a regular in champions league or competed for league titles 😊

[@Mack17.g]

@@rashidkhalid3970 Leicester may not be "big" but they were very competitive in the league and even won it. They also have good players just that they're underperforming like West Ham.

[@memememe908]

​​@@taliamason7986 dude if we manage to stay up after having only 9 points at the world cup break and with the tough schedule for the rest of the season (bremen, mainz, bayern, frankfurt, red bull) it will be absolute scenes in Gelsenkirchen. But even if we go down there will some incredible away games again like last season (for example when we had 10000 away fans at a crucial gane in the tiny town of sandhausen whos stadium has only 15000 seats 😂

[@MystClips]

Valencia before Simeone's arrival they had the 3rd highest point tally of all time in la Liga. Since the 2000s, 2 LaLigas, 2 Champions League finals (1 lost in penalties to Bayern), won the Europa League, a few Copas del Rey and a regular in European competitions. For a short while Valencia felt like a more attractive option for some players than Barcelona to sign to, having World Class players, but during Mourinho-Guardiola era it felt like they had cemented themself as a valid 3rd place team, as financial issues ramped up, creating a "stagnation" that led to title races being a thing of the past. It kind of reminded me of the Dortmund or Schalke of the Bundesliga, I just hope it doesnt follow through with going down like Schalke did... They had the stadium being built that would have 72k capacity to capitalise on their success and massive fanbase but, as mentioned, now paralised since 2009. Now there is talks of downgrading its design and capacity by like 10-15k and remove the plans for an underground parking lot (which makes the project feel kind of redundant) just to continue the build because obvious the city council has complained about the massive ruins of cement in middle of the beautiful city... An interesting Story is that the Prince of Johor, who basically created the most successful football team in Malaysia and is close to Peter Lim, showed repeated serious intentions of BUYING the club off Lim, watching matches at the stadium and posting about the legacy, history of the club, how beautiful the city is and how he would like to contribute to its success on his Instagram. However, after talks with Lim, the posibility of the takeover seemed to have vanished out of nowhere, either because of the incredibly strict Financial regulations imposed in LaLiga on clubs, making spending very restrictive, specially if these clubs are managing a debt, such as Barcelona or Valencia; or because he was straight up rejected by Lim because he refused to let go of "his asset". I guess thats what the Worst Owners possible for almost 10 years, bad owners prior to Lim, bad dealing with debt plus other financial issues and HORRIBLY intrusive punishing LaLiga financial restrictions by Tebas does to a club that could and should 100% be in Atletico Madrid's position competing alongside them :(

[@eavyeavy2864]

Atletico > valencia

[@Scallion_D]

Well said.

[@PabloBadiaG]

@@eavyeavy2864 right now yes

[@OtakuVonBismarck21]

The history-like series of rise & fall is my favourite from Tifo. Incredible content and massive respect for Valencia, they should be a regular top 4. Also would be nice to see a Fall & Fall of Preston(the only former English champions that never played Premier League football and not even top level football since 1961) or a Fall & Rise of Ipswich(who are almost league one champions and things look good since the partnership with Ed Sheeran) or a Fall & possible rise of Sheffield Wednesday(four time English champions, absent from Premier League since 2000) or to go somewhere else from England, a Fall & Fall of Pro Vercelli(the team that has more league titles than Napoli, Fiorentina and Lazio combined, absent from Serie A since before ww2).

[@Darwinek]

HITC Sevens channel has quite a few very good detailed "rise & fall" videos

[@CarlosGV91]

As a València fan I really thank you for your explanatory video about the current situation of the club. The club’s situation is extremely delicated under Peter Lim’s ownership, It really looks like he wants to destroy the club as a, somehow, personal vendetta, Meriton (his company in football businesses) should be renowned worldwide by a company that any team should get involved with, so as Mendes… Anyway, once again thanks for the video, Amunt valencia from 🇮🇪🦇

[@GuffGuffGuffy]

Valencia fan from Ireland? Surely you know of the Famous St Patricks Pub then 👀

[@Blood_Video_company]

lim is a moron kicking marcelino out, if someone could manage that squad and create a structure to make recruitment and selling players easier it was marcelino.

[@ario4550]

I remember how much hype there was when Lim first joined. A sleeping giant that was ready to return to the big stage. But so much incompetence and corruption. i remember when Marcelino got sacked, it was the final straw for me. But when they FORCED the captain Parejo out of the club I became competitive disillusioned with any prospect of hope. And now look at us

[@itsmebenb]

I was at the Real Sociadad game where they had protests and the 19th min whistle blowing whilst visiting Valencia in February. Even though the club is in turmoil on and off the pitch, you could really feel how passionate the fans are, and it's horrible to witness what bad ownership can do to a once great club. Got my fingers crossed for them 🤞

[@chaardoMusic]

As a Bayern fan i feel very bad for Valencia fans after the 2001 UCL final because they lost twice in a row. I hope they would win something big in the future ❤

[@RoldanESP]

It is key to mention that the End of the Marcelino era was met with COVID and Lim panic sold all his good players to Villarreal for almost nothing, which is a wound theyve never been able to recover from

[@anguspaterson5713]

The choice of smooth jazz on these videos is exceptional

[@Tohardtomakeachannel]

My first ever European game was at Valencia and I fell in love. Hate to see them like this and hope they can eventually get Lim out. Such an amazing city

[@thomasmartinez3995]

The 19th minute chant has been part of every game for over a year now, both in first and second halves of matches.

[@robinsandquist]

Remember following them a lot as my team outside of my main team from my hometown in the 2000's, but then I lost interest around 2009/10, several of the players I liked went away (Villa, Silva) and then the whole debacle around the arena happened. It's a shame, I always looked forward to visit the city and watch a game on Mestalla or the new one.

[@12thMandalorian]

The Nou Mestalla has been being built since 2007, one of the longest builds in history, only Arsenal's Premier League title drought is longer

[@arshavindrameh32]

The season the allowed parejo to leave on a FREE transfer ,it was when I knew this club would soon be relegated and + allot of youth with no experience players close to them

[@ottooctavius5855]

Slightly unrelated to the video but Valencia is also a beautiful city. Hope the fortunes of the club improve

[@Vendettanino]

Looks like the local players from Valencia are fighting till death for this club and they manage to do decent in La Liga. They truly love the club, being at Valencia since they were 7-8-9 years. They will give their life for this club, Mestalla its quite a fortress nowadays.

[@callmedo]

Letting go KangIn Lee (for free wasn't it) seems like another bad decision

[@Viewer41]

I didn't work out for Neville, but most people act like he was the only one who struggled at Valencia. The club being in chaos has proven that most managers have struggled and they are now fighting relegation.

[@Toffe3m4n]

Scarily similar to the situation at Everton..

[@samelmudir]

Same stadium situation but it does seem that Everton's will be completed

[@gingerburns9125]

Valencia are a huge club. I've visited Valencia dozens of times and been to watch them at the Mestalla 7 or 8 times. It really is a shame to see them failing. Everyone involved in such a huge clubs downfall should be ashamed.

[@jmc3461]

The stadium follows the trajectory of a lot of projects in Valencia. The government splashed billions on vanity projects and so little on key infrastructure that it meant children were going to school in storage containers while the City of Arts and sciences was completed. Bankia was the merger of the Caja’s that failed with the financial crisis (Valencia’s being the worst offender) so that refinancing was set to fail as well.

[@miamitten1123]

PES 6 Valencia was a brilliant team on PlayStation.

[@ulaytube9953]

The biggest thing you can criticise Gary Neville for is his silence over Lim and Valencia. He has never spoken out against it despite always claiming the moral high ground on several other controversial topics. He has to use his voice on this.

[@bertrons7259]

Hey, wonderfull video explaining the situation in Valencia. Just one thing, Mateu alemany is not pronunciated like that, in places were catalan is spoken the NY is the same as the Ñ in spanish. It's a little thing but i noticed it and had to say something. Thanks for everything!!

[@RR-nh4we]

Unsurprising that the owner chose Gary Football = Man U for many "football fans" in the part of the world Lim comes from

[@froote]

My favorite Spanish team sad 😞

[@luka7697]

this valencia downfall reminds me a lot of schalke's last 5 years, two elite clubs in their respective leagues now struggling to stay up

[@willsaenz6320]

The problem is that not only has Peter Lim driven the club into the ground, but it's now to the point that most potential owners wouldn't touch the club with a ten foot pole, considering the debts. They might be stuck with the currently most hated owner in Spain.

[@insertnamehere2479]

crazy fall from grace

[@MuhammadUsman-bd5gb]

I am a Valencia fan and this is such a good piece!

[@GuffGuffGuffy]

The old stadium is great but the new stadium has so much potential. The club has been really downhill because of Lim and it’s insane to see a club of this size fall down so hard while other spanish teams have had good success across Europe

[@shifty220]

Sad scenes, I remember the Benitez years

[@stinar]

He's destroying us. How can one be so incompetent and soulless? !AMUNT VALENCIA! LIM GO HOME!

[@swapnildpawar22]

Iam a huge fan of valancia

[@pponggt]

I'm from Valencia and a Valencia fan, and I am very grateful that you show the terrible management Peter Lim is doing with our club. It is so sad going to stadium to see your team fighting to not being relegated when years before you were almost all years in Champions fighting with the best Europe football teams.

[@Offical_FutCT]

AMUNT

[@Dabbtrabb]

Nice series, Valencia after Brighton. Do alternate between ones on the rise and ones that are not.

[@aigamingmp9676]

I don't have experience about sports but this video made me crazy to watch and play

[@arthurahabwe1301]

From 0:29, I'm getting the same vibes with Todd boehly. Friends with Jorge Mendes, signs many of Mendes' clients, sacked popular manager tuchel, hired a fraud in potter, potentially hiring another fraud in pochettino. I'm starting to worry for Chelsea. Hopefully I'm wrong .

[@GiancarloGarcia]

Thank you for the video and awareness.

[@devanman7920]

Its mental. They brought in Neville who had no experience and doesn't speak the language. In what other industry would you hire someone who has no experience and doesn't even speak the language for a high paying role.

[@federicoarmando8359]

4:31 I think this is a mistranslation. I’m pretty sure they actually said “We have to take back Valencia Club de Futbol”

[@gordonfreeman9733]

I want to see them out. It would be interesting 🤨

[@Beanskiiii]

Been up all night it’s 7 am, I thought this was a kings and generals video

[@MrSmith1984]

When one looks at the recent decline of Valencia; besides Peter Lim himself, the other factors behind said decline also include the historic stranglehold on Broadcasting Revenue by the El Classico Clubs and the Great Recession financially dooming their New Stadium Project.

[@aristeia71]

I blame Gary Neville.

[@paulrichards5002]

Just in general or the Valencia issues??😂

[@SoftTechSavvy]

Thanks for sharing this information

[@hakr4751]

it's so sad that a club like valencia suffering like this

[@MuhammadShahid-kb4hj]

Great video

[@eookuro]

If Valencia and Deportivo La Coruna could stay and return to La liga as well as reclaim their 00s form. Sevilla and Atletico Madrid can keep their current form. LA liga would be an much more interesting league. Not to mention Villarreal, Betis, Sociedad being solid clubs.

[@stoicsinn]

Awesome video thanks for sharing

[@dajo8723]

You should do a video on Reading FC. Once one of the best run clubs in England and now one of the worst. Three separate bad owners approved by the EFL in the last decade, and about to drop into league 1 after their second points deduction in two seasons. It's a story with fake russian billionaires, Thai asset strippers, a CEO who wasted millions of pounds, and Kia Joorabchian. I realise it's not as big a club as Valencia or Leeds, or Derby, but there is plenty of material.

[@nickyjns]

Rafa's Valencia was world class, their style of play was great to watch. Sad to see the club in this state.

[@jamestran3035]

So sad to see the club which David Silva, Joaquin, Juan Mata, Marchena, Canizares, Pablo Aimar, David Villa…played become like today

[@MuhammadJaved-ud4ey]

super excited

[@زوجہالطافاحمد]

Great work👌

[@farzeennadeem3701]

I remember Valencia kits were selling more than some popular premier league clubs in early

[@muhammadahad9910]

Great video 💯

[@montyvlc1634]

It's a real tragedy what's happening to us. As the video correctly stated, we were in a pretty positive mood when Peter Lim bought the club. But we also knew that there was no other choice. That is an important fact for the story. The bank Bankia told Valencia that we need to get an investor or they'd cancel our credits which would have lead to bankrupcy and a restart in the 4th division. This was the reason the board started to look for investors. Peter Lim was one of their favourites. There was also a group of texan oil millionaires who bid a lot of money. And we were quite happy that they chose Lim, because the Texans didn't seem lime a good fit. And now 10 years later I wonder if we should have just went with the 'Yee-haw' instead of that lunatic that is driving us into ruin....

[@haiderjani5997]

So amazing 😍

[@timidstein888]

Geez, I thought being an Inter fan was hard...this is depressing. Valencia have always been my favourite La Liga club, so it's sad to see. They'd be a good club to buy as it has good history and a great fan base

[@ShahbazBashir-ct5ys]

Beautiful ❤️❤️❤️

[@MuhammadUmer-c3s]

Worth watching

[@ghulamhussainmalik3470]

Beautiful

[@Sulaimanfalakkhan]

Wonderful performance

[@axazee3402]

Very informative

[@ulaytube9953]

Great video but why is running at 6 fps?

[@AbdulArhamRashdi]

So amazing

[@mohammadilyas9780]

Nice information

[@NaseemNaseem-rg5ql]

Thank U this for video

[@unairamos74]

The best thing that can happer to VCF now is relegation. A very good opportunity to "start from scratch" and rebuild the club from the ground up. And the Nou Mestalla thing is just embarrasing. They might as well just tear it down and sell the plot to grab a few hundred thousands of euros that are much needed elsewhere.

[@acdiaz]

What’s the latest update on Valencia ? Last time I heard a group of middle eastern wanted to buy them.

[@LiviuHomalăulSectar]

Nope, now Spanish liga is corrupted, so that mean bad business

[@darththew]

As a Singaporean, I'm so ashamed of this. I myself don't like him and his family so much as they are so arrogant

[@PrinceAli-sf4hc]

Creativity 😍

[@MuhammadUsman-uw5dp]

Great video good content

[@sphanxele5034]

It's sad what's happening to Los Che

[@SyedMudaser-qe9cn]

Amazing 😍

[@sohailakhtar8992]

Informative

[@pabhz19]

I've begged for this video for so long. I'm glad Valencia got the attention it deserves

[@NoorAnsari-ge1ue]

Very beautiful

[@pacoramon9468]

Without Lim, Villarreal wouldn’t had the players that allowed them to beat Manchester United in the Europa League final. You know who can be blamed for that United fans.

[@kevinprior3549]

Everytime I think of Valencia I think of them knocking out Leeds in 2001 champions league semi.

[@PabloIzurieta]

Libertad VCF should galvanize the supporter base to chip in and buy the club, and turn it into an association sports club (like Real Madrid, Athletic Bilbao, and Osasuna are). That would be epic.

[@Scallion_D]

It's honestly a travesty what's happened to Valencia.

[@hussainmansoor9263]

It's actually very sad as a Valencia fans