The RISE of ‘GODZILLA’! | How Gibson Motorsport Group A NISMO R32 GT-Rs DOMINATED The 90's

[@andretorben9995]

Nissan and these guys didnt build a car, they built a legend.

[@chrometemple3291]

Elequntly said sir.Glad you enjoyed it. It (this project) has been a labour of pure passion.

[@JoseBarrientos-o8s]

Not just a legend but a legend that built nissan, the ATESSA was put into a bunch of cars like my B13 Nissan SUNNY 1800 GT-S

[@jasoncamilleri9147]

Probably the best video I’ve seen about the best GT-R’s in the world.

[@chrometemple3291]

So glad you enjoyed it Jason.

[@michaelhirst5072]

That vid could of gone on for another 4 hours . Learnt more in that 20 mins than the last 32 years

[@chrometemple3291]

We had hours of amazing footage with Alan, so hard to whittle it down! What a legend.

[@Tom-lf8hx]

100% ❤

[@sheacrowe]

We all appreciate your involvement ❤🎉 you are part of the legend . "How good is that "

[@simmoarthur]

Legendary stuff, and what a gentleman Alan Heaphy is!

[@horse5407]

What an amazing machine. Mr Heaphy there, seems like a real gent. Great video.

[@Danger_mouse]

The Gibson team, Alan and co built the best cars in the category, anywhere. The GTR was a revolution in the sport and it made me proud as a Nissan fan and mechanic to see what the car was capable of! The Ford/Holden faithful all cry about the car being too good, but they were quick to forget that the VL Commodore had a Nissan heart in base trim and that even the great Peter Brock switched to the Ford Sierra to stay in touch... Group A was the pinnacle of motorsport, both in touring cars and the more widely followed Rallying classes. Every manufacturer could be involved and the non-race version of the cars were a product you could buy at a dealer somewhere in the world.

[@MrAmv12]

Great video! The earliest fond memories I have of watching Motorsport was seeing the Nissan GTRs running at Bathurst and winning. It could be said it was the car that was responsible for a generation of Australian motoring enthusiasts having a love of the GTR. Until 2008, the GTR was only available in RHD. The GTR is now a global phenomenon and in my opinion Australia, Alan Heaphy and the Gibson team had a great part to play in developing the legend. We Australians should be proud of the engineering contribution and legacy. Amazing this was 34 years ago!!! Awesome footage and doco!

[@chrometemple3291]

Well said MrAmv! I too remember watching this car race as a kid (once in the flesh too). I was also luck enough to have a mate who's dad owned a Nissan dealership and we got to ride in one of the first R-32's in Australia. These are the memories that stay with us and shape our passions.

[@itsmegilbo]

I remember as an 8 year old watching Bathurst and watching these cars. These guys helped forged my love of cars

[@corriegillett2536]

I’ve been lucky enough to work on a few of these cars and under Allan, he is genuinely one of the nicest, smartest and most interesting men in Motorsport. He is as humble as they come and deserves finally being in the limelight for what he and the team achieved with these cars. Loved this video and makes me miss messing with them.

[@chrometemple3291]

Well said! We had the pleasure of a few days with Alan and his knowledge and passion was amazing. Glad you loved the doco.

[@nnoddy8161]

Awesome interview with an outstanding Australian. Thank you. I love the story how Nissan Japan insisted that Gibson Motorsport could not run in the Fuji 500 so as too 'save face' and not show up the Japanese teams.

[@georgehatzi6625]

Alan a true gentlemen. Always happy to talk to you. Very smart man.

[@chrometemple3291]

An absolute gent. We thoroughly enjoyed our time with Alan and and are lucky enough to have him still looking after her now.

[@Lazerus2008]

The legacy and greatness of the Skyline GTR can be placed squarely at the feet of Gibson motorsport.

[@chrometemple3291]

Absolutely

[@ELZ-R]

Bloody legend Alan! Learned more from him now than when we met Fred and Jim a few years back. Incredible 35yr old tech and Aussie ingenuity. Best feeling owning one of these.

[@drdesmo8489]

Can’t get enough of these type of videos ! Brilliant. That car/team was so brilliant and cutting-edge it was and is amazing. Cheers for the awesome content.

[@chrometemple3291]

So glad you enjoyed it!

[@robertjohnmeiers]

Excellent video. Grew up watching these things, I remember the biases towards Nissan. Wish we had something similar these days that was different.

[@ObviouslySeriouslyDGAF]

Love that era of touring car racing. Was a massive fan of the GTR from the starts. Refused to watch the V8 for many years in boycott after they banned the GTR

[@golgoxiii7314]

Was the same for me also, but unlike you by the sounds of things I haven't gone back to watching the V8's.

[@harrisionstan3773]

Stop playing "tHEY BAnnED the gTR" card. It's BULLSHIT. The whole Gp A concept worldwide was dying in '92. The Ford fanbois don't bleat about the Sieras being "banned"

[@aisrael13]

What an era! I loved group c as a young lad, but these things were phenomenal!

[@maxrockatanksyOG]

I miss these days of Aussie racing...

[@lesblase3667]

Don’t lie 😂 heaps of folk hated it when it was around lol

[@jonathanparle8429]

Fantastic piece. I have very fond memories of the era. I guess I was one of those one percenters who appreciated at the time what Nissan was doing. If I had any grudge it wasn't against Nissan - it was the rulemakers who allowed four wheel drive vehicles to compete in the first place. Nissan simply interpreted the rules better than any other maker in outright contention, took advantage of them and benefited accordingly. That said, that 2.5 litre BMW was equally as impressive in it's own way back in 1991-1992. We have to remember though that if it were not for the Gibson team, the GTR might never have achieved legendary status since the Australian team pushed the development of the car far beyond what Nissan themselves and overseas teams were capable of.

[@chrometemple3291]

So very well said! I remember watching this very car race too. I was too young to get caught up in the gripes, I just loved watching cars race! I was also lucky enough to ride in a street R32 GT-R when they were launched as my good mates dad owned a Nissan dealership. These memories are woven into our fabric and influence our passions ongoing. We’re privileged to open the office door every day to be graced by her all these years later.

[@TrendEdge]

Amazing to understand just how advanced the whole Australian GTR programme was. More credit to Brocky and Perkins etc to do as well as they did up against the technology and power of the Nissan and the power of the temperamental Sierra. ...Bring back Group A get a Kia Stinger, M5 , Mustang, Camaro

[@paulie2476]

What a great doco. Great to hear the engineering side of the build as well as the uproar from the V8 community when their pants were being pulled down by Godzilla.

[@chrometemple3291]

Agreed Paul, and thanks for the kind words.

[@chrometemple3291]

So glad you enjoyed, so did we through the process!

[@filmntvguy1977]

Wow, what a video guys. Well done to cover such traversed ground, and yet being fresh insight to such an innovative icon of touring car racing.

[@Aaron_Hanson]

I actually had a brake pad damaged tyre from Mark Gibbs GIO Nissan. I asked for a tyre and they gave me one. It was placed on top of a brake pad during a pad change apparently. The pads had melted three grooves into the tyre and I’m guessing it was no longer useful for anything. I also got the rear tyre off Scotty Doohan’s Peter Jackson sponsored motorcycle. I think it was ‘93 or ‘94. It was at Oran Park Raceway. I was about 12 - 13 years old at the time.

[@dons1932]

Man Alan really knows his shit. I had no idea he was the head for Gibson on this car.

[@tonydownunder5703]

Talk about putting man on the moon,, Godzilla R32 GT-Rs Out dose all of that ✊💪💪👌

[@BARRY-n3z]

Brilliant Vid. Could listen to Mr Heaphy for hours. Honestly, nothing comes close to an ATTESA equipped Skyline or Stagea. Feel lucky to have owned both.

[@jsleeio]

Agreed, it's great to hear about the finer details. Also there's an ATTESA-equipped early 1970s Celica in Victoria also :-) but with a Toyota v8

[@chrometemple3291]

Absolutely, Alan was a wealth of knowledge and abundant passion for this car and the category in general. It was a real pleasure.

[@jamieaitken8943]

R32 didn't have Attesa

[@deanosslewis]

Yes they did. If it was gtr​@@jamieaitken8943

[@BARRY-n3z]

@@jsleeio Do you know what they've done to adapt the sump? Sounds like a total weapon 🤙

[@toddalcock6879]

Australia should have never stopped Group A

[@roddas26]

Brilliant format.

[@rs5001988]

Them were the dayz

[@Dan-yc6vi]

The godzilla what a car, japanese made and australian built!!! This was a great vid on the insight of how great this car truley was

[@SpeedBrazilOficial]

AMAZING GUYS ❤

[@michaeljames1857]

Nice video

[@crisgillespie7726]

So good

[@Rhys1600]

Epic vid. I didn't know about the PI data acquisition stuff.

[@chrometemple3291]

We learned a LOT through our time with Alan. So very switched on.

[@chrometemple3291]

Data an iPhone could probably do today but impressive for the time and testament to the Gibson teams relentlessness for better.

[@ronaldmurray7746]

That will always be the best years of racing, GODZILLA, was absolutely awesome.

[@VincentViolence]

Makes me a proud owner!

[@chrometemple3291]

Us too Vincent

[@gjmob]

Larry Perkins was a racing legend, you just ask him, he'll tell you. PITA.

[@andrewscully4516]

Brilliant Video!

[@chrometemple3291]

Glad you enjoyed it. We loved the process

[@cloverchambers1032]

@andrewscully4516 - I really want to see it do a lap against a current Gen2/3 supercar now too!

[@andrewscully4516]

@cloverchambers1032 that would be incredible!

[@DeanandLisa1803]

6:39 MOTEC exhaust reading 🤣

[@TheLlamaFarma]

It needs NOS 😀

[@dazaspc]

There is so much BS history out there about these it is an absolute treat to listen to Alan.

[@chrometemple3291]

A true gent and wealth of knowledge. As passionate today as back then I would imagine.

[@Legweak]

The original Godzilla I really enjoyed watching the racing back then

[@jadethompson5269]

Jim Richards was gangster! 😂

[@Takeitlightly6]

Im awestruck to such an extent i dont understand a single word that he said.

[@NTTTTTTTTTTTTT]

What a B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L Car. A Masterpiece

[@slickstrings]

im a big Larry Perkins fan, i think he's done fantastic things, but his protest about these cars is the only thing i dont like. I do understand where he was coming from in that in his opinion it was supposed to be a touring car category, not a 'race car' category and he thought that a car built specifically for the purpose of dominating group A rather than racing a normal car IN group A wasnt appropriate and was in danger of killing the popularity of the category. However the skyline was built to the group A rules and being penalised for being successful is a bit unfair. However you can see the results of having such a stand out car. In japan the skyline won everything at the time. it basically became a one make category. If you wanted to have a hope of winning you needed a GT-R.

[@daveweller9550]

Imagine if Ford and Holden Australia decided to compete with 4wd turbo cars, what could we have now.

[@maxrockatanksyOG]

Ford & Holden's car output was woeful, compared to the like of Nissan, Ford Europe etc. Best they came up with were ancient designed pushrod iron blocks and rear deive

[@andretorben9995]

Peter Brock got Holden to reduce the capacity of the 5 litre to 4.9 to keep it in a different weight class. Same thing as Nissan. they simply optimized the rules. Perkins was always sour at the GTR's becuase they were simply faster and he couldnt beat them.

[@chrometemple3291]

Agreed. It wasn't just the car, it wad the amazing Gibson Motorsport team that took something good and made it exceptional, all within the rules.

[@bourbonslurpee]

@@andretorben9995 Brocky wanted to use an even firing 3.0l 6 cylinder but Holden insisted on a V8

[@stevebrown4568]

People refer to “hating” the GTR; likely most prevalent due to their dominance at the time. But the Group A era had good variety throughout the field, with cars of differing strengths and weaknesses. This made the racing far more exciting than today’s Supercars. GTR’s weren’t unbeatable. The little Longhurst/Jones BMW M3’s beat them at Lakeside. But the GTR’s were an amazing car, and addition to the group A field. It wasn’t “hate”; it was competitive and fan base ‘emotional stirring’. Ultimately benefiting the racing era of the time.

[@SimonWorlds]

As an owner and driver of one of Australia's fastest R34GTR street/track time attack cars, I can't begin to tell you how over rated they are. Sure they are quick, but for the money, R&D that is needed to actually make them perform properly, there are much easier and cheaper ways to go. Just look at the money that was poured into the Bathurst cars, nearly a million per chassis. 2 bar of boost which is a dynamic capacity of 7.8L, AWD, the whole car built lightyears away from the original machine, I am actually more impressed that a Holden Commodore could hang with them for as well as they did. Macpherson strut and trailing arms, 2 Valve headed 5L engines and only RWD, I think Australia got it very wrong banning the GTR, Holden could have easily developed itself into direct winning competition against the GTR with the right engineering. The fact that the GTR was allowed to run 2 bar of boost is clearly an issue that needed to be addressed. The GTR did its thing, but looking back now and driving and racing many platforms over the years, the GTR is very over rated for anyone without extremely deep pockets. The Rb26 is also a very heavy engine and is not as good as many other options that should have been looked at. At 270kgs wet for an RB26 and 183kgs for the likes of an LS3 from Chev, there were plenty of areas the Nissan could have improved in terms of weight balance and overall mass. My little MX5 is by far the cheaper, faster and more balanced chassis than any GTR I have ever been in. It actually performs better lap times too, corner entry and mid corner are far superior and doesn't need a tonne of power to get it moving. Sorry for the negative comment against the GTR, but after owning two of them, racing and winning quite a few lap records and events in one of them, I am sure I am entitled to make a proper assessment. Sadly it has become a fanboy cult car from quite uneducated people who are more in love with the idea and noises turbos make, than the reality of the engineering the GTR is and what it lacks. Sure they were ahead of many for a few years, but at what cost? Enormous is an understatement in development and maintenance. It is ashame that Australia chose to ban them. I did like them a lot, but I am an engineer first and foremost, I always look at how a car can improve and I don't take sides. The weight of that RB engine has haunted my mind for years, it is simply too heavy and so is the Getrag gearbox, let alone an even heavier OS88. I know the GTR is an iconic car, but hype is far greater than people might realise. Fantastic video though, the racing and R&D stories are all very cool, it is a part of history.

[@SimonWorlds]

Tyres were bigger on the GTR too, go figure what was happening? The rules that were going on why some cars were helped and others limited was baffling. I am not sure what the agenda was, but it would seem that ATCC had some under handed tactics going on? Something never made sense. Was Nissan involved with the ATCC with money? Was it Winfield money? I guess we will never know, but the rules didn't make sense, atleast to me.

[@chrisschneiders6734]

Simon's world, couldn't agree more..never raced a car, never driven a race car but had an interest for 50 odd years.. Absolutely loved the interview about the gtr, the development and the cutting edge technology, the incredible team behind the car but at the same time was thinking how much money did they throw at these cars and how could Johnson and brock even compete with this technology and money.. To have such a car and also drivers like gentleman Jim is mind blowing.

[@slickstrings]

​@@SimonWorlds The rules were specified by Group A which was a global category. The skyline was developed by nissan to be an optimised compromise inside those rules. The 2.6L capacity with turbocharging was the result of the power target they had set (550hp) without going outside the engine capacity that i believe would put them into a different weight class, and the 4wd system was decided on because they knew the group A tyre size limits would not handle the amount of power for long. All of this resulted in increased weight. There was nothing underhanded about it, the car was designed within the rules and gibson motorsport developed a fantastic race car. The street car did what it was supposed to do as well. Outperform a porche for less than porche money. Your MX5 wont do that in street trim and didnt exist at the time. I get why you say they are 'overrated' but it seems to be in hindsight and comparing decades newer tech? How overrated is it when at the time it dominated everything in its field? Comparing an LS3 which was produced from 2008 to the RB which arrived in 1989 is a bit spurious. Especially when the tech was actually pretty new back then. The RB30 was the first Alloy headed engine for holden ever and that was 1986. That was brand new! As an engineering practitioner you would know the expression 'engineering is the science of compromise'. The skyline like everything else was a result of balance. Sure, the car might have been able to shed some of its weight by pouring more money into more exotic engine materials etc but that of course increases cost and the target market was sub porche market. Its a strange thing to hear someone say a car developed 30 years ago is overrated because it doesnt compare favourably to cars 20 years newer made for different purposes despite its enormous racing success.

[@SimonWorlds]

​@slickstrings I guess I should have elaborated, yes when dealing with the era when the Skyline GTR was created it was indeed a great machine, but in today's society of so called "car enthusiasts" we have a culture of "Emotioneers" (Engineers with emotional drive instead of science 😉) and the RB platform is still held in huge regard in today's world and technology. The point is, we have moved on and my point of being "overrated" is more to do with the mindset of today's society of car culture more than then. I hope that makes sense? Even back in the day, I still think about how much money had to be thrown at it to make it quicker than a Commodore makes it very over rated from an engineers perspective. The technology was mind blowing, it paved the way for other things, but it still had the kitchen sink thrown at it to achieve what it did. The problem with the RB is the inherent design of the inline 6 engine. Sure BMW have refined it better than most, but having and engine that long is where the problems lay. The block will crack and flex, the crank ultimately is the culprit. You can keep throwing a stronger block, crank, girdle etc at it to stop it, but it is a runaway issue that keeps coming back to mass. A V engine, say a V8 is already 33% shorter, a V6 is 50%, the torsional twist is reduced, thus the weight can be reduced too, not to mention the weight being moved back in the chassis. This is not so much an era of technology, but an oversight of engineering principles that had been understood and developed many decades beforehand. It is a fundamental principle that in my opinion kept the GTR limited in its true potential. The reason I use the LS3 as an example specifically, is due to the architectural differences between the two. No DOHC, no turbos, quite a large bore spaced engine, but physically small considering. The engine is short in length and height and with a race trim version can put out huge amounts of torque and power. Yes we didn't have them back in the day, but having a 2.6L engine at 30psi is a dynamic capacity of 7.8L, this is not something you'd see in a rule book today. BOP is much better these days. I guess having regular discussions with guys in this era now, it has become apparent that still people worship the 32GTR today and still think it is relevant, but it is far from that. Yes you are right, we are 30 years apart in technology and I guess I was addressing two different era's of my analysis without distinguishing them. I also understand that Holden had no other engine in terms of architecture available to them at the time, except for the early VN headed alloy design that came to be right when it was changing to V8SC. I guess my main point is, a front engine 6 cylinder is not my first choice in engine that I would look at in designing a race car. The MX5 of mine was a 94 model, which they originally came out in 89. Yes it was faster per lap than my old Time Attack GTR around certain tracks. Both were street trimmed. The NA MX5 is one of the best chassis sports cars ever made, this is the same era of the GTR. The MX5 chassis actually got less competitive as the years went on until the latest iteration of the ND.

[@SimonWorlds]

​@@slickstringsthe enormous racing success? 1 second per lap with the difference in budgets of serious proportions is not success really, if you throw enough money at it, this is what you'd expect, but the amount of money they needed compared to a Holden Commodore, I would have expected a lot more performance. This has been my experience with my racing GTR too, unbelievable amounts of money to make it go "fast". On track, $120-$130 per minute in running costs. An MX5 of the same era, quite seriously atleast a 5th of the cost. This is what mass does to our wallets 😉 700hp atw 34GTR vs 300hp atw MX5, the MX5 wins in so many ways, except Fanboy adoration 😉

[@r33skylineprojects59]

😍

[@bengepp9314]

Just in case you missed it , its written on the grill . 🇯🇵🇦🇺🎌🏁

[@jasonkennedy1670]

Godzilla slayed all before it and put all the arseholes in their place

[@andretorben9995]

Jim Richards was also a total class act driver, especially in the wet.

[@brucerobertson5919]

So did Alan, at 15:34, admit to cheating by having special blocks made for the Bathurst cars? Group A regulations require the block to be the same as that in the homologated production car.

[@alexrogers1248]

Items pretty common for manufacturers to throw things into their production cars to benefit the racing. The N1 block is rumoured to have been developed for the road cars due to Group A.

[@njclsx4252]

Rb's are still disturbing the peace more then ever in 2024

[@incolink]

" the engine management was well advanced even by todays standards" from electromotive ? I find that hard to believe as electromotive has vanished from Australia and has no significant market share globally bit sad they weren't using motec. Awesome iconic story As these cars pioneered the development of a car that has gone to have 3 more generations and become a global cult I would speculate that these race cars should be the highest value cars ever built in Australia

[@longdatto3]

it still is dominant

[@Wolfpack310]

The Mona Lisa

[@garyjanssen5388]

Having met a Nissan GTO Which by the way was Freckin Fast I nearly ran up his backside cos he was limited to 250 kph, needless to say I passed him I was in my VZ Maloo, When I got home my ute was buggered and so was I. NZ

[@avakinkobe224]

It's such a shame nissan are on the brink of bankruptcy. I hope we don't lose another legendary manufacturer. I tell people my pathfinder has GTR DNA

[@riknik05]

Wasn’t it 5000 cars and then a special of 500? 1982 was the first year of group A

[@jonathanparle8429]

That's what I thought too. And yes, 1982 is correct. 1985 for Australia though the first Group A cars ran on Australian tracks in late 1984.

[@slickstrings]

I believe thats right. An initial homologation of 5000 units and an 'evolution' model of 500. So you had the normal GT-R and then the N1 i think. Thats where the extra bodywork, turbo's, engine block stuff came from. I think the evolution was where the RS500 came from as well.

[@stevegraham3817]

Everyone said it was the car, but that was only the starting base line, it was every person, every engineer, every driver, and every modified component that made it fast. The saddest part is that Larry campaigned to CAMS to get the car banned, eventually getting his wish in 1993, when he should have been campaigning to GM and GMH to get some AWD components from their international parts bin. He was an Engineer who played inn F1, you would think he would have wanted the technology to exploit. I still can't understand why Ford didn't homologate an AWD Sierra alongside the RWD, they already had them in their car model line up. BMW also had AWDs in other models that they could have homologated as well. International Group A rules were supposed to improve the racing, improve the technology, and have the world competing on an even playing field. All it did was show what a bunch of closed minded sooks that Australia was back then. How good would it have been to have a 355 Holden with AWD in the early 90s, instead we had to wait until the mid 2000s for them to finally catch up.

[@chrometemple3291]

Agreed that the people is what we took from this story the most. The foundation car was great, but it was the people at Gibson Motorsport that mate it globally recognised as amazing.

[@harrisionstan3773]

You do realise that the whole Gp A farce was dying by 1992? Was the Sierra banned? Or the Volvo 242? Or any other Gp A car? None were banned. The whole series had run it's course by then. But don't let the facts get in the way of your pity fest.

[@darcykeddell4930]

that red r32 in the video out front of Nissan HQ has just recently been stolen 😭

[@incolink]

Can some one explain to be why we had what i call a sports car racing against sedans ? and why no one ever tried to race other sports cars in this category a 911 turbo or 3000GT supra etc ? the GTR became very formidable as a road car as it was bench marked against the 911 turbo it had 94% the performance for about 60% the price

[@rabidbigdog]

To all the Ford and Holden bogans, that somehow convinced the US owners of those brands that what everyone in Australia wanted was V8s "you're all a pack of a-holes".

[@golfboy666gti]

7,500 not 750.

[@LethalLee666]

AND NOW THE SHERRIFF R32 GTR MAKES THESE CARS LOOK SLOW AS SNAILS

[@ziggyfreud5357]

Correct

[@mrporsche4236]

I used to import them in the 90s. In standard form they are not good. They are a godzilla when you spend ridiculous amounts of money on them. I still love them but thats the truth

[@neilperry2224]

Richards was upset cause his close friend and race driver Denny Hulme had died out on the track in his racecar.

[@peterherriott237]

As good as it all was, Group A should never have allowed a 4WD to compete.

[@petewitt2867]

Increadabke engineering and design. But if you understand design or engineering using art as a superlative isn't really a complement.

[@chrometemple3291]

How so Pete?

[@petewitt2867]

@chrometemple3291 art is about expression. Design and engineering isn't about the designer/engineer, it's about solving a problem. In this case the problem is how do we go fast and wipe the floor with everyone else. Art isn't the pinicle of design. It's a while different category, with a different purpose.

[@chrometemple3291]

@@petewitt2867 I guess that's where the expression about art being in the beholders eye came from then...

[@petewitt2867]

@chrometemple3291 that's beauty, not art. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" Art isn't always beautiful, and things that are beautiful aren't always art.

[@metricstormtrooper]

And then supercars destroyed Australian Motorsport for good.

[@michaellowe5980]

And in typical Australian lack-of-sportsmanship standard, when they couldn't beat it, they banned it. Now look at the standard of Australian supercars🤣🤣 Its more exciting to go to your local circuit and watch the street class meets.

[@uraniumcranium2613]

It was a boosted, 2 door, awd car racing against n/a family cars. Overhyped.

[@chrisjackson1295]

Still love watching reruns of those races.The GTR getting chased by the pocket dynamite fire breathing sierra.Miss those days.

[@ThunderAppeal]

Really dont give a fu.q