The Rise of the Ocean Liner | Evolution of Ocean Liners Documentary Part 1

[@sixohdieselrage]

I love how you didn't mention Titanic, but included her in the very end of the video, sailing faster than those before her. 😊

[@CitizenMio]

I liked that bit as well, though that would only be true as a combination of all previously ranked traits. The Olympic liners were built for luxury first, not speed. Mauretania's record of being the first to go over 26 knots held for 20 years. Titanic's max would be around 23 knots, but she cruised at 21, which would put her back in 1893 alongside Campania if you looked at it like that. ;) Today's cruise ships are actually typically slower than that, even when repositioning across the Atlantic. It's just better for fuel efficiency and cruisers enjoy longer trips.

[@Daniel_Kani]

very nice indeed

[@OnionChoppingNinja]

When watching this video you get the impression that the Olympic class wasn't actually THAT innovatieve. They where just really really big

[@McLarenMercedes]

To OP. That was a mere nod but it's *false* that she was faster than anything before her. The Olympic class liners were built for luxury by White Star Line because they knew they couldn't compete with the *speed* of the Cunard Line ships Mauretania and Lusitania. This is also white White Star Line ordered *three* Olympic class ships - i.e. to be able to ship as many or more passengers than Cunard's two speed liners over a year. Mauretania took the Blue Riband (record) in 1909. This wasn't improved upon until the Bremen (owned by the Norddeutscher Lloyd Line) took the new record in 1929. In a time when the Blue Riband usually was improved upon every one or two years this was quite an achievement. As for the Olympic class liners. They weren't revolutionary in their design like the ships mentioned in this video is. Until diesel-electric and turbine motorships arrived to finally put an end to coal (which took up *a lot* of space in steam ships, had to be cumbersomely loaded in harbor and crudely manually loaded by people breaking their backs) nothing much happened and ships just got bigger. Here's the reality: Titanic is remembered because she sank on her maiden voyage. But in a hypothetical scenario in which she never hit the iceberg and ended her days being scrapped like the Olympic she would have been a footnote in ocean liner history. The record of the largest ocean liner ever would have lasted 11 months for that is when the German ocean liner SS Imperator was launched in 1913. Ocean liners peaked in the 1930's to 50's. Then came the jet airliner and ended the ocean liner era.

[@sixohdieselrage]

@@McLarenMercedes Well, yes. I know the Olympic Class liners were not as fast, but my comment was mostly about the look of it.

[@alexanderashaw]

I am currently underway on my first transatlantic crossing as crew aboard a 100ft sailing yacht. Thanks to recent updates with starlink we have been privileged enough to have internet access almost the entirety of our voyage. With all these excess weeks of free time, I have been growing naturally curious about the history of oceanic crossings and stumbled on your channel in between watches. Thank you for the hours of entertainment and information thus far. Keep up the good work! (currently in the Mediterranean on day 17 of 20, en route from St Thomas, USVI to Sicily)

[@nanabutner]

Be safe and go with GOD during all your travels.

[@danielwhyatt3278]

That is really cool. Thank you for sharing this.

[@Camibug]

Really cool! How did your trip go? I hope it went smoothly. Are you planning another?

[@BucksSuperStereoWorld]

This is such a cool story, and something that I have always considered to be a bucket list voyage. You lived my dream brother .

[@giggiddy]

Did none of you catch that he said hes crew? He's working, not lying in the sun all day. And its only a 100ft vessel. That can get pretty rough in the winter.

[@gaemlinsidoharthi]

Ah! That closing scene with all those stunning ships sailing together. It’d be so amazing to see something like that for real.

[@Lgs260495]

"But that is a story for another day..." Few will know why these words feel nostalgic for me, but I thank you Mike for adding this phrase to your videos.

[@ktsp2538]

If you don’t mind me taking a guess would it because of a certain talking steam locomotive who’s painted blue?

[@Lgs260495]

@@ktsp2538 Not quite, it's more like a talkative bucket head that wanders a radioactive wasteland.

[@ktsp2538]

@@Lgs260495 I have no idea what that could be a reference to

[@Lgs260495]

@@ktsp2538 It was a series of video game related lore with a great cast of talent, however the latest instalments of games were quite shoddy.

[@axhed]

@@ktsp2538 it's line from the game 'fallout: new vegas.'

[@jessdelange3419]

I worked on cruise ships for almost 6 years as a dancer in the entertainment department, living and working at sea was an amazing experience! I absolutely loved every minute of it and met my now husband (also crew) on our very first contract :) I just recently found your channel and have basically binge watched every video! So fascinating to learn about the mechanics and history of these amazing ships, makes me wish I had been at sea during the era of the ocean liner!

[@brandonwooldridge1877]

Its a real shame Oceanliners are now a thing of the past. These ships were gorgeous works of art and state of the art for their time. Sure they may not be considered safe by today’s standards but there’s no reason why they couldn’t be! It would a true experience to travel the seas on one of the beauties. At least The Queen Mary 2 is still in service!

[@briantonkin7737]

There are certain cruises that mimic oceanliner routes, if that ever peaks your fancy

[@AverageAlien]

​@@briantonkin7737cruise ships are ugly though

[@evolvingsoul2370]

Yeah now all we get is floating bathtubs.

[@Fox.White.]

​@@AverageAlienyeah like fr its just an horizontal floating building.Not the magnificence and beauty of The lusitania or even the Atlantic wzs beautiful

[@samus4799]

I think the onset of the popularity of rail travel and the reduction of fuel production in the electric age will bring an increase in the cost of air travel. Advancements in automated sail tech could create a new age of sailing ocean liners.

[@Phaaschh]

Mike, you have excelled yourself with this- not just the story of 19th century evolution, which has been crying out to be told, but brilliantly realised both visually, and in your narrative. I found the photographs of the ships interiors equally fascinating. We all know what the Great Britain's interiors looked like, ditto the early 20th century 4-stackers, but you've gone a long way here to show us the intervening 60- odd years of hectic and amazing evolution. Bravo

[@Zeldafan1009]

This truly is one of the greatest channels on KZbin. Mike’s production quality, extensive research, and engaging commentary simply leaves viewers wanting more. What was once a niche historical subject has now become an enrapturing tale combining technological evolution, tragedy, adventure, and business venture in a way that few historical accounts on KZbin could hope to achieve. Here’s to our man Mike Brady from Ocean Liner Designs, for making history come alive and inspiring a new generation to appreciate the technological marvels of our ancestors.

[@miamiglia]

I think my daughter might be your youngest fan, whenever I put your videos on my one year old stops what she’s doing, climbs up onto my lap and will watch the entire video with me. She even started saying uhoh when they sink 😂

[@alexandersoledad9706]

Get THIS on top today 2024

[@DavidHarrison-bv9jm]

She will definitely be a ship engineer or just a engineer regardless she will succeed

[@cassidylhd]

Aww, this reminds me of when my 1-year-old daughter used to obsessively watch aviation videos with me 🥹

[@California_Condor]

How old is she

[@FlakusCorporation]

I think this one was my favorite of all of them so far. The animation really helped line them up and put them in perspective with each other and put them in historical context.

[@F1fan4eva]

This is just my second video of yours that I’m watching and I’m already thoroughly impressed. Your videos remind me of the old National Geographic/history channel documentaries. Just a little thank you from me.

[@pux0rb]

This was fascinating to watch! I'd never heard of the SS City of New York before, and I have to say, its one of the most beautiful ships I've ever seen! It looks like a massive steam yacht. Probably a new favorite of mine. The animations, music, narration, and pacing were all top-notch. I'd love to see more videos of this style!

[@tanidigagliano]

City of New York was colliding with Titanic in southampton harbor at the start of titanic maiden voyage

[@loneneotank.5687]

For sure, the City of New Yorks raised bow mixed with the sleek frame and placement of the funnels and masts looks great.

[@gtaitz]

Me too, or even RMS Campania.

[@ItsDaJax]

Technically if you can live on it, it's a yacht. Nothing but a pompous term for houseboat.

[@maxdoes_]

What you're doing on this channel and the growth you have shown over the last year is just incredible. Obviously the research that goes into your videos is impressive, but you're really starting to flex some muscles in your direction, cinematography and editing. You did a great job incorporating music in this one-the ending with the Titanic catching up with the rest of the fleet, and timing the end of the piece of music with the blaring horn of the ship was a really great creative choice. I know you are not a one person show, but your creative direction has been on fire lately! Keep up the great work!

[@theoccupier1652]

I'll second that :)

[@Neal_Schier]

I'll agree with the content... that is absolutely first rate. I do however, find the music to be annoying. At the very least it is too loud for the narrative.

[@Mr_Maritime]

This transition to 3D is incredible. Your videos only get better as time passes! Great video Mike!

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Titanic engine

[@airringtonpresents6367]

In my opinion this is the most comprehensive video on the technological advancements on ocean liners. Keep up the good work and I am looking forward for more amazing content.

[@simonk.8594]

Thanks for that awesome production! You truly got me interested in the history of oceanliners.

[@ardiffley-zipkin9539]

Terrific. Your productions are outstanding. As a frequent cruise passenger in my early retirement on QM2, I loved the voyages and experience. I often wondered about the sailing ships and early cruise ships. Your presentation and the overall quality of the video made the subject come alive. Well done, Mike !

[@Dakiraun]

Amazing job on this one! Better in quality than something Nation Geographic would put out. And agreed, the Victorian era was jaw-dropping for the rate of scientific advancement, and ships were certainly one of the greatest showcases of that.

[@3UZFE]

Cable TV documentaries are dead these days, haven't seen anything good for years. It's people like Mike with grass roots passion for these topics that are bringing such stories and history to life on the internet, his masterful computer design and animations are second to none. Equally important is it's well researched and articulately narrated too!

[@giggiddy]

​@@3UZFEyes. Mikes videos are world class quality and much more accurate in many ways. We are incredibly fortunate to have access to this type of material for any price. Free is just a blessing

[@videodistro]

Haha. Hardly. The jarring music fades in and out is atrocious. What you mean to say is the writing is good. The actual audio production is horrid.

[@Dakiraun]

@@videodistro An audio flub can be fixed with a volume slider. If that's the worst of the problems, they're doing great. Besides, they are expanding to more people, so there is a learning curve.

[@mkoury83]

Holy cow Mr. Brady! I was not ready for this level of production quality. I am genuinely impressed. I can't help but observe the deep metaphorical current amidst this voyage you have taken and the technological leaps and bounds you have made from your ealy paddle wheel days. Great work man, I love your content and now you're officially next level. Sail on - from Chicago U.S.A.

[@jimcabezola3051]

SO absorbing! You transport us with your words and video illustrations in the same comfortable, luxurious manner as the ships you describe. Supremely well paced and executed! Mahalo for another maritime masterpiece. Eagerly anticipating more episodes whenever you’re ready to release them. Aloha!

[@jr99887]

The SS Great Britain deserves her own video, the story of her loss and eventual rescue is fascinating. She's dry docked now and well worth the trip to Bristol, the Great Britain sparked my interest in ships when I was young as I live nearby, and might be the reason I live on a boat now. Awesome stuff man keep it up 👍

[@sarah-hj8se]

I feel exaclty the same! watched the BBC documentary as a kid and it kickstarted my love for the ocean and ships. Her story of the return to Bristol is incredible and so emotional.

[@Kroggnagch]

That is just incredible.. the size if the chains, and cables, pulleys, everything at the shipyard where they built steel hulls.. thats so incredibly cool. Thank you, my friend Mike Brady, these are some of the coolest videos, it's wonderful seeing this old footage from harder but somehow simpler times.

[@leetatum5306]

Mike, I have to say this is brilliant.. Not only have you picked a topic that everyone is fascinated with but as always your attention to detail and unparalleled skills behind the computer have brought us another amazing creation. I honestly love everything about your channel and I can't wait to see what you come up with next. Thank you for this and all the work you put into these, your dedication is evident in the quality you produce your videos are outstanding!!

[@danesorensen1775]

These animations are getting amazing. It's very cool to hear how these ships were seen in their day - from their day looking forward, not from our day looking back (burdened with knowing what happened next).

[@NonsensicalNauticalRambings]

Can’t wait, the thumbnail alone looks fantastic! Will the ships in the thumbnail be getting their own drawings soon? Because I’d love a drawing of Lucania/Campania or one of the Kaiser ships. Edit: Just finished the video, and it certainly lived up to expectations! The models used are gorgeous, can’t wait for more of this type of content!

[@jec1ny]

For those interested in the early history of ocean liners I strongly recommend the book "Transatlantic" by Stephen Fox. It is by far the best and most comprehensive history of the development of steam and engineering that made the great liners possible. And it is written in a very accessible manner with brilliant descriptions of the lavish interiors of the early liners.

[@KelleysQuiltsandCruises]

I’ll have to look it up. Thanks for the information.

[@JJ_5289]

Thank you for sharing that. I will check it out

[@cabinliners]

What an incredible timeline of steamship evolution brought to life! This might be my favourite production so far 👏

[@PainHurtss]

Very glad you included the Campania and City of New York on the video, two of my very favorite ocean liners to ever grace the Atlantic. Campania especially, those towering funnels gave a sense of safety and tranquility while plying the mighty Atlantic.

[@RinaRavyn]

That ending with the titanic, teasing the future of ship building was so beautiful. i was actually tearing up 🤫 Very well done, Mike!

[@Gregm-l9r]

Very well done and very professional Mike . Love your Channel. Thank you so much for your dedication and hard work . 🎉🎉

[@DMoNCFL]

The closing shot with Titanic creeping into the lead was gold. Well done.

[@300bhpton]

No its is pretty terrible, as Titanic was the 2nd ship of her line and individually brought nothing new to the table, plus as we and history all know, she set no records either. If the created had put Olympic instead, now that would have not only been clever, but sensible too.

[@LoneSheWolf09]

What a story teller I could listen to you all day. Really enjoy watching your videos old & new absolutely fascinating. Keep up the fantastic work.

[@leontam221]

This documentary remind me of the series "Big Bigger Biggest" It is amazing how one man like you can produce such a great quality content matching the big company one mentioned ! Keep it up !

[@carltonleboss]

I loved that series

[@jetsons101]

The City of New York at 0:26 has a timeless elegance to it. Mike, what a outstanding watch, watched it again with my son. The propeller at 16:13 seems to be in reverse? Top-notch work......

[@ceejay960]

Brilliant ending! Seeing the Titanic come into view as it overtook the other ships gave me goosebumps.

[@PeterG1975]

Mike, your videos are excellent. The graphics of 19th century ocean liners are engrossing. I don’t think I’ve seen these liners envisaged so magnificently. You’re passionate about what you do.

[@doctorouroboros]

I absolutely love the 3D ships you have here. They look absolutely excellent. Lucas Gustaffon’s models look great in your simulations :)

[@elevan2760]

I love how the music in the background is the same as on the titanic movie... At least in portions.

[@OceanBlue27]

So incredibly interesting to learn about the early ships that laid all the groundwork for what was yet to come. Well done.

[@SRFriso94]

That last shot is so good... All those once great liners sailing together, something that obviously never happened for real. A nostalgia for something that never happened. Reminds me of a great video, a modeler on the channel Samuel Resin Models making a diorama of the Olympic sisters, each with a different livery, it's fantastic. Highly recommend looking that up.

[@ChrisFrameOfficial]

It’s a fascinating topic Mike one we’ve studied in depth and covered in our books - really looking forward to your perspective on it and another great video. Hope you’re enjoying life after QM2! ‘Sea you’ at the premiere!

[@FrancOnia-zh1me]

Must be pretty cool to know you have a ship author watching your ship videos.

[@ChrisFrameOfficial]

@@FrancOnia-zh1me Mike and I had the opportunity to meet on Queen Mary 2 recently, and I dare say a lot of maritime authors and historians have subscribed to this channel!

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

Hi Chris, I am missing shipboard life I have to say! Yes any ship enthusiast would be doing themselves a great favour getting copies of your books! There are a couple of ships in this video I'm sure you'll be happy to see in action. :) ~Mike

[@ChrisFrameOfficial]

@@OceanlinerDesigns looking forward to seeing what you have in store 🎉

[@cardiffgiant9406]

Not only do I think this was one of your best videos, I know there are 2 spinoffs coming from it! Great work as always Mike.

[@shadows4400]

BTW! THE SS GREAT BRITAIN ("the first ocean liner") is still around to this day and in the City of Bristol, England, United Kingdom; you can even board it and look around the ship! Defo worth a look if you love shipping! 💖

[@Caktusdud.]

This video is just what i needed. I often keep forgetting how good and unique your videos are. In naval history its mostly just warships, but never have i seen a person cover civilian vessels in such detail. I wonder if you'll do a video on turbinia. The 32m long speed demond that would pass her speed onto the mauretania and her sister. Despite being small for a vessel seeing her in person is surprisingly intimidating especially when you enter the building take a left turn to be greeted by sharp black and white steel bow that towers above you.

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

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[@johnstirling6597]

I remember in the late 1960s the Chilean Barquentine Esmeralda came to New Zealand, my grandfather (and the whole family) was invited, and piped aboard by the captain because my grandad had done his initial training in the late 1890s on old clippers, he later served on HMS Spitfire during the battle of Jutland. I was very young at the time but I remember it very clearly.

[@CMDRturner]

a magnificent video, I could not take my eyes off it!

[@VoidvexVR]

Love it

[@Clayart923]

Yes

[@alessandroceli8089]

beautiful; but could you drop the background music?

[@pyrace]

A shout out to you, your movies are extremely well presented and very well researched. I'm a writer, and I really enjoy your material, and I have found myself just ticking through your playlist. I salute you, Sir. And I thank you for your work. Now on to the next movie.

[@PaulMcElligott]

Amazing job. There’s something so charismatic about ships of that transitional period between sail and steam. They’re kind of like the aircraft of the interwar period, that mixture of fabric and metal, biplane and monoplane, in almost infinite combinations.

[@TheCarnivalguy]

0:28 The City Of Paris had a beautiful profile and her bowsprit was a lovely touch. One of my favorite liners.

[@compressorhead02]

i haven't even finished the video and i thought i needed to comment how absolutely stunning these new longer documentary style videos are! i love these videos thank you for all the hard work and dedication to create great polished content it does not go unnoticed, THANK YOU!

[@estebanfrisch2536]

A really, really nice presentation. Congrats on a job well done.

[@martintowle1308]

Great show. I love ships. Unfortunately, with age, I seemed to have devolved a weird fear of deep water. No worries, I'll live the seas vicariously through your content.

[@jonathankirsch2121]

You continue to outdo yourself!! This is your best video yet, the animation truly sumptuous and conveying these vessels with the proper grace and grandeur they deserve. I hope you are very proud of this masterpiece!

[@volpixrossi3589]

The dining saloon in the City of New York was absolutely second to none in her time. It was absolutely gorgeous!

[@lewisbons2503]

I do really like how your videos are made filled with remarkable info and animations. And finally your accent that keeps me on a nice acknowledgment voyage

[@3UZFE]

This is such a wonderful piece, the graphics you and your team have created to illustrate it really bring these great ships back to life. Well done.

[@Leosedits-n1r]

now im sorry i didn't comment earlier but this is breath-taking! the graphical imagery is outstanding excellent job mike and your team!

[@elwindewitte]

That outro is absolutely terrific! All the animation is just so well done! Thank you for your hard work Jack, that must not have been easy 😅

[@mkendallpk4321]

I was not very interested in ocean liners, but I saw a few of your shorts and decided to watch some of your regular length videos. Thus I became very interested because of your fine research and presentation skills. So today I have subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to your next video.

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

Just superb work, Liam. My congratulations to Jack too for the wonderful animations. The sheer terror of travelling by sea in the 19th Century has been largely forgotten by the public, I think. At one point, a major shipwreck was happening weekly. I heard one historian put it this way: it was the equivalent of a 747 liner going down every week, and people accepting that was normal. Safety was the big story, which explains why people were still so obsessed with it by the time the Titanic came along. Of course, she didn't help! Keep making these videos, they're a treat.

[@McLarenMercedes]

"Safety was the big story, which explains why people were still so obsessed with it by the time the Titanic came along." False. Regular people *never* thought about safety in those days, mostly because people died a lot more from disease and wars. They also were a lot more religious and therefore prayed to whatever version of God they believed in, this way they would be protected or "blessed" from disease, wars or accidents. If they died - God's will be done. A fatalistic approach to life which still was very much alive in the 19th century. In a time when cholera, smallpox and all kinds of pandemics (many forgotten today) could kill *millions* nobody batted an eye if a ship or two with a few hundred people went down. Major outbreaks of cholera happened way into the early 1900's and since vaccination still wasn't commonplace *a lot* of people died young or even as children. Smallpox killed an estimated 300 million people in the 20th(!) century according to the WHO. Smallpox wasn't eradicated until 1980, which is fairly recently. Here's another thing to have in mind. WHAT kind of passengers were the ocean shipping lines mainly carrying? Poor people hoping for a new life in the new world. In fact this is the group of people these shipping lines made most of their income from. These poor people were often so down on luck in life they were willing to gamble *anything* just to get a chance at a new life across the seas. So to them the prospect of an uncomfortable travel across the sea was most certainly not seen the same way as we see pleasure travels and cruises *today* . They *already* lived difficult lives and already knew they could die at short notice from poverty, disease or wars. A few weeks on a ship in bad conditions was nothing which troubled them when they knew they could live for *years* with a better life (which btw itself often turned out to be far from true). It was urbanization and more people working in cities which brought about the increased travel across the seas. This increase drove the innovation for bigger, better and safer ships. It wasn't the safety of the ships which suddenly made millions of people want to travel across the sea for a new life. Safety was an important factor for the *shipping lines* but a non-issue for poor people who already lived difficult lives. The reason it was important for the shipping lines is that they owned these expensive ships and when they sank they lost the valuable cargo, the cost of the ship itself (which had to be replaced at great cost) and the loss of shipping capacity from a lost ship. Hate to be a cynic but ordinary people drowning was of little concern back then because those had already paid their ticket for the journey. And ordinary people back then had virtually zero say against those who were rich and powerful so they were never going to go to court and sue to shipping line anyway. The only ones writing about the safety and innovation of the new ships were papers targeted towards engineers and designers. Back then (and STILL today) it's an interest of those with the knowledge, education or interest in the field. Regular people know eff all about the cars they buy and just pick one based on commercials, looks, practicality. So the technical magazines were the ones mostly writing about the design and safety of the modern ships. But did the poor people read those? Nope, for they barely could afford regular papers and since literacy was *still was far from universal* in the 19th century several millions of people *couldn't even read* . So exactly *where* do you see this claim of yours of people adhering to safety and made a huge fuss about that by the time Titanic came along? "Safety was the big story, which explains why people were still so obsessed with it by the time the Titanic came along." These are your very own words. People most definitely weren't obsessed with safety by the time Titanic came along and I already explained to you why this was the case. First of all I'd also like you to provide me with a link of that "historian" you claim said "I heard one historian put it this way: it was the equivalent of a 747 liner going down every week, and people accepting that was normal." While sinking ships occurred fairly regularly it was nowhere near 400 people perishing every week. Those kind of numbers happened during the Battle of the Atlantic in 1940-1945. 36,000 sailors died in 270 weeks of fighting. That's an average of 140 sailors a week. During WWII and the German submarines sinking everything which floated. So where your 747 liner full of people every week in the 19th century comes from I don't know but it sure isn't from a real historian. Most likely you made that up yourself. Regular people also didn't had access to news the way we have today. Another ship going under was a footnote in the newspapers and at a time many couldn't read... So we come to the Titanic in 1912. What did the White Star Line want the world to know about her? Her size and luxury. And why not when people were swayed by that. White Star Line couldn't compete with Cunard on speed so they focused on luxury. Why luxury? Because they targeted rich and wealthy people to travel on her. Whatever regular and poor people liked and didn't like was of little concern in those days. Sad but true. Safety wasn't even a concern in the *car industry* until the late 60's with Ralph Nader's book "Unsafe at any speed." In 1969 they registered 53,543 people died in road accidents in the USA. Meanwhile 11,780 American soldiers died in Vietnam fighting a war the very same year. Yes, almost 5 times as many died in traffic accidents than soldiers in Vietnam. Yet people protested against the Vietnam War and not death trap cars from Detroit. Why? Because people fear a war, they don't fear for safety on the road. And what sold cars in the 1950's and 60's? Size, luxury, horsepower and the latest 8-track player. Safety? Didn't sell any cars. What makes you think ordinary people in 1912 cared (or were "obsessed") about safety? Motorists of the 1960's died like flies and they thought nothing of it because they didn't know any better. They were oblivious because nobody before Nader brought this up. And people in 1912 were equally oblivious to the "safety of modern ocean liners". But what about the story of the "unsinkable Titanic" ? Myth. Mostly perpetuated by Hollywood films. White Star Line themselves never made a single claim Titanic was unsinkable. Technical magazines - which btw were only read by those interested in design and engineering - claimed Titanic was *practically* unsinkable. AFTER the Titanic sank some people remembered those "practically unsinkable" which spread around among the public and the "practically" disappeared. "Of course, she didn't help! " Please. So your anachronistic view of the event doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Historical context. Scope. Parallells. You need that.

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

@@McLarenMercedes Putting aside your obnoxious tone for a moment, your figures on the Battle of the Atlantic are simply wrong. 36,000 Allied merchant seamen died, as well 36,000 Allied naval seaman and 30,000 U-boat crew. That’s well over 100,000 men. Those figures are available on the Battle of the Atlantic Wikipedia page, the British Merchant Navy records site, the United States Naval History and Heritage Command website, and many others. It’s not relevant, of course, but you were using it to create false scale. A 747 can carry a little over 400 passengers. Horrifically, that means losses in the Battle of the Atlantic were the equivalent of ~255 747s crashing. There are 37,000 known shipwrecks just in UK waters. The Godwin Sands alone have 2000 wrecks, and were so known to the public that Shakespeare mentioned them as a graveyard. Having nearly been on one of these wrecks in a storm on a sailing vessel I was helming, I can attest to their danger. The hurricane of 1703 resulted in 2,000 men dying there in a single night. The Spanish Armada lost 20,000 men on the shores of Scotland and Ireland. When Robert Stevenson began building his lighthouses, the construction crews were attacked by locals who didn’t want their wrecking industry disrupted. They literally relied on the goods that washed ashore from shipwrecks, often inciting those wrecks with false lights. This isn’t obscure history. My local area is replete with references to wrecking. The 747 line was not made up,. I was citing from memory a BBC programme about shipwrecks hosted by a naval historian called Dr Sam Willis. The series is is not readily available to watch so I cannot check the exact wording, but the blurb for the episode actually paraphrases the claim: ‘The terrible toll taken by shipwrecks was such that in the winter of 1820 some 20,000 seaman lost their lives in the North Sea alone. That's 20 jumbo jets.’ That's in just the North Sea! I didn’t claim this was a constant rate, I said ‘at one point’. In the same programme, a great deal of cultural evidence of the abject terror many people had of the sea was shown. Your bizarre notion that people just accepted death in some psychopathic hypoesthesia and didn’t value their lives until the 20th Century is patently absurd. Having to come to terms with the danger of your time is not the same as being fearless of those dangers. A major reason so many were religious at the time was not a lack of fear, but the inescapable need to comfort themselves in the face of the ever present spectre of their death, and perhaps the absence of opiates in the form of television and social media etc. Yes they had a very different relationship with death than we do, but they still feared things that might cause it! As you describe, people knew that poor lives were cheap lives and that nobody would care much if they perished, which was precisely why a ship spoken of as practically unsinkable was appealing! No, these claims are not after the fact. You can read about this from the the Encyclopaedia Britannica article named 'Did Anyone Really Think the Titanic was Unsinkable?’ Perhaps they’re not real historians either? Harland and Wolff, before the sinking, said ‘as far as it is possible to do so, these two wonderful vessels are designed to be unsinkable.’ Note, no ‘practically’. People talked about her safety, even if they didn’t outright call her unsinkable (which I didn’t claim they did). You’re mistaking the myth you read about that nobody called her unsinkable with a blanket notion that nobody talked about her safety at all. They certainly did. I invite you to Google a painting called The Raft of the Medusa, completed in 1819. It depicts the survivors of the French frigate Méduse, who resorted to cannibalism so survive the 13 days there were stricken on a pieces of the ship’s debris. 132 of 147 died. Both the event and the painting were of great public interest. It fascinated and shocked people. Likewise did the case of the Mignonette, a British yacht that sank in 1884, after which the two sailors tasked with delivering her to Australia drank the blood of the cabin boy to survive (they actually killed him first so that his blood wouldn't coagulate if they let him die naturally). On reaching shore, the boy’s own father met them and if memory serves he even testified in their defence at the ensuing trial. The public were riveted by these stories. You could not be more mistaken in thinking nobody thought about the perils of the sea. Heck, someone should write a hymn about that. The 'women and children first' tradition came to be called The Birkenhead Drill, named after HMS Birkenhead, a ship that sank in 1852 with the loss of 450 men. The marines on the vessel stood on the deck in formation as the ship sank, to allow the women and children to depart in good order. It so moved the public that Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem about it, from which the name ‘Birkenhead Drill’ is taken. Then there’s Grace Darling, who is little short of a legend in the United Kingdom to this day. In 1836, she rode out in a storm to save just 9 of the 63 people who were on board the Forfarshire (9 more survived another way). If you aren’t from the UK, it’s hard to overstate how famous this girl is; we sang about her in primary school. Shipwrecks loomed large in the public consciousness. It’s just a fact. ‘You won’t die on this ship’ is hardly a marketing slogan, but everyone knew it was a major selling point of the ever-safer ships running up to Titanic. No, people probably didn’t dwell on it by 1912 as standards had improved enormously, but this video is about the progress made in the century or so until 1898. Just as today most people feel airliners are safe, we know they weren’t so safe a few decades ago and we are reassured to learn how safe today’s ones are. And yes, normal people did have access to the news in the 19th and early 20th Centuries. The circulation of English newspapers in 1854 after the stamp tax reduction was 122,000,000. That’s a lot of people who apparently didn’t read the news in your warped view of the past. I strongly encourage you to think more about the tone you use when commenting. My comment was both accurate and pleasant. Yours failed on both counts.

[@External2737]

This series is amazing. The pacing is right for the introduction of technology. I look forward to the next video, "The Era of the Four Funnel Liner."

[@stevehollis9623]

Forget being sponsored by Brilliant, this production is Brilliant! Well done Mike.

[@pegono]

The Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse is my all time favorite ship! I love her desing a slick lines and her interior is just amazingly beatufiul!

[@jviation737]

Lovely video! Would be fantastic to watch a part two showcasing more oceanliners of the 20th century in a similar progression.

[@juhahonkanen9222]

I didn't get to live in the era of these amazing ships, but your channel is the second best way to live the dream.

[@Jeffreyshaner]

I am always so very impressed by your art and craft. Thank you for this, and all you do. Beautiful, as always! - I loved seeing the Titanic at the end. What an interesting part of history. 😊

[@maggiehall9545]

Hi Mike just wanted to thank you for the early history of steam driven liner’s, your narrative presentation is superb.i can only say don’t stop doing that which no one does better.

[@tmcorbett]

Your channel is truly growing into a powerhouse. Great job on this video and already eagerly awaiting the next.

[@sptownsend999]

"Brilliant" is the word I'd choose to describe this -video- documentary!! Your voice is engaging, the content is very informative, and the graphics are STUNNING! I definitely would love to see a part 2 (and possibly part 3), from Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse to Cunard's newest Queen Elizabeth!

[@Sarasdad91]

Thank you, Mike. This production was terrific. I especially loved the computer images so well done. I hope theres going to be a part 2 of this video. Love to see you pick up with the RMS Mauritania.

[@HistoricTravels]

Never cease to amaze Mike, unbelievable work.

[@GodzHammer]

I didn't think your videos could get any better but this one was a masterpiece! Job well done! 👏👏👏👏This is probably as close to time travel as we can get. I love it!

[@thatguy.mp7950]

Seeing liners evolve is amazing, every idea that's thought of, then copied and improved, so cool

[@therealtony2009]

I love both types of ships, sad that sailing cargo vessels are nowhere near as popular as the ocean liners of the Edwardian Period. Love the video mike!

[@ron3557]

To be fair cargo doesn't need food, water, sleep, and luxurious accommodations

[@20chocsaday]

When they took on a few live animals to provide fresh meat now and again.

[@generaltophat5877]

That ending was chilling ngl. Really puts into perspective the reality check Titanic was to shipbuilders at that time.

[@TheHylianBatman]

This one feels like another watershed video. It's just amazing. SS City of New York is probably my favorite of the bunch; that old--fashioned look appeals to me. Update her tech and she'd be perfect for me. I love the animation, the scripting, the music. It just feels like a gigantic leap forward. You should be proud, Mike. I really, really hope this becomes some sort of short series; perhaps 3 parts? The next one could be from Kaiser Wilhelm up to the Depression, perhaps, and then from the Depression and the War to the present day. Or maybe just two parts? I don't know. If that is what happens, I would predict the next bunch of ships being the Cunard greyhounds, the Olympic-class, and probably capping off with the Cunard Queens. That'd be a thin video, though, but I don't know what else to put in there. The hypothetical third part, meanwhile, would be United States, France, and capping off with QM2. This video is the development of the ocean liner; the next one would be the golden age, and then the last one would be the rise of the airplane. But that's just what I think! Who knows what the future holds (besides Mike)? Another excellent video! Great job, Mike!

[@SHO1989]

Thanks!

[@BD12]

26:03 the German four-stackers are my kink, I just wish there was a good model around. I've got a paper one I'm too scared to make.

[@fastball7596]

I never had any interest in ships or ocean liners. Yet I come across this channel and I’m absolutely hooked. Mike, you have a gift good sir

[@caledonianrailway1233]

Can’t wait for great eastern

[@GardeningLadybug]

Remarkable ship

[@richardnedbalek1968]

☕️ Sunday morning with a special chronology video from Michael. 😊

[@CMDRturner]

When JvO & Hellenic prince drawings?

[@pagmonreal]

He is far to busy, he says he wants to draw JVO but there are lots of commissions to complete first

[@Tehguyvontehguy]

found you

[@CMDRturner]

@@Tehguyvontehguy lol

[@Hal_T]

I pay a monthly fee to watch KZbin videos. It is better value for the price than any other video streaming service. There is a huge variety of videos on an amazing number of subjects created by lone individuals or small production companies. The quality is impressive. I just discovered this channel. It is a perfect example of the best that KZbin has to offer. I am able to share the host's enthusiasm for the subject and learn new things I would not otherwise have had the opportunity to encounter. Thank you very much!

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

This is such lovely feedback, thank you so much!

[@slowbutsure504]

Am I the only one who'd like to see a video, where you can tour the inside of these old ships? I'd drop $60 for that.

[@sunshineravens]

Great video, very enjoyable. It was nice to learn about these 19th century ocean liners that I knew virtually nothing about. Also great to see the late 1800s ships' interiors as well, amazing since it was so long ago.😄

[@devinpierce6854]

anyone else notice the delay between images and audio?

[@sburbStuck]

thought I was losing my mind

[@agrimmsounds]

@oceanlinerdesigns any idea what the issue was?

[@j4513]

You placed the one ad that I have ever been interested in out of all of the ads and sponsors out of all the videos I have ever watched.

[@Mr_Crumpet]

I am so excited

[@pepsi_person]

lol sameeee

[@marathonrunner2590]

Mr. Brady. I enjoy your creativity. Your comment that there were "winds which could strip paint off the side of a house" paints a unique and colorful verbal picture. Kudos.

[@agrimmsounds]

Am i the only one experiencing an issue with this video or is it made that way? after a while the talking doesn't sync up and the titles seem very out of place, not sure if thats a youtube glitch

[@zowiktv5460]

No, I have the same problem

[@agrimmsounds]

@@zowiktv5460 ive refreshed the page and come back to this after a day and its still doing it, not sure why he didnt comment on it or notice it, its very distracting

[@KoolDog570]

Just noticed that now while rewatching it, at some point it just goes all to hell & shows our friend doing a SquareSpace ad while talking about a ship in the background...

[@ConfuciusModernReimagining]

@@agrimmsounds I think what's happened is that Mike deleted the audio portion of the sponsorship, but not the actual video portion. All of the audio shifted, thus leading to the video being out of sync.

[@Arthur_da_dog]

Dude these renderings of yours are absolutely perfect! Amazing work!

[@pineapplepizza27]

This video rules

[@alexlents4689]

It’s crazy that the Great Britain still exists today, albeit permanently docked as a museum ship! Props to Jack Hayward for saving such an important piece of history back in the 70’s!

[@minorityofthought1306]

I have a couple questions. The smoking rooms on ocean liners, were they used for safety or was it a cultural reason? Also the naming of Cunard and White Star lines used suffixes. Were these suffixes arbitrary, or did they use IA and IC for a particular reason? Thanks for your fantastic work. It is appreciated. Thanks again.

[@nathanviebranz9111]

Smoking rooms were cultural and more of a social space for men at the time. They’d play cards, chess, or checkers. Many times they’d gather just for the latest gossip about certain topics like business or politics, all while, you guessed it, having a smoke. Women had their own spaces for similar reasons, but during these times it was considered improper for women to smoke in public, especially in front of men. These specific spaces allowed them gathering places to socialize and smoke without disrupting the dynamics of the times throughout the voyage. As far as the White Star Line and Cunard Line naming custom, it was more so out of a tradition that they both decided to keep going. Plus, it’s great for marketing since you’d know which line owned that specific ship based on the name alone.

[@HEDGE1011]

Outstsnding work Mike! I love the way you teased the ultimate destiny of the four-stack ships with the unspoken Titanic cameo at the end. That was an utterly brilliant touch!

[@BongoBaggins]

Hi Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs, it's your friend Bongo Baggins. I really want to fix your logo and make the text actually central in the circle 😭

[@autoneurotic]

This channel is one of the best things on the internet. You have given someone with a casual curiosity a profound sense of awe and wonder at these magnificent vessels and their impact on human civilization. Thank you for all of your hard work.

[@redxdestroyer5]

Nice French 3:50

[@philtkaswahl2124]

I've always like the look of ships during the transition from sail to steam, retaining sailing masts while having the smoke stacks for the steam engines.

[@samanli-tw3id]

Early steam engines weren’t that reliable so sails were used for backup purposes.

[@bobdylan6773]

Please don't try to discredit the first steamship to cross the ocean just because it is American and has a paddle on it... Very British thing to do

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

I’m Australian :) And Savannah’s achievement is well known and celebrated, but it is worth noting the ship made its crossing mostly under sail.

[@Yoyoma27]

Absolutely, great video 🎉🎉🎉🎉