The Roast of Daniel Ricciardo

[@TommoMcCluskey]

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[@sekou3758]

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[@rudyduring9406]

My physics teacher lol

[@thesunnynationg]

Tbh i dont doubt danni's talent but he hasnt delivered over multiple races or seasons since his Red Bull time. I dont like the idea him leaving McLaren but he has no othe space in F1 left. If he needs to go hes gone forever from F1 forever

[@rishabh3150]

Leaving Renault was poor imo.. he finished P5 in the championship.. amazing season.. he was settled in the team, comfortable in the car, given the first driver treatment.. everything he wanted.. and if had stayed, he would have definitely grabbed much more points than Alonso because Fernando took the first half of the season to adjust to the car.. and Daniel having the car built around him would have had a very good season... edit: yup Tommo summed up everything for me..

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Well to be honest I feel like Alonso probably wouldn't have come back if Danny had stayed. At least, not at that Alpine team. He was already doing a job on Ocon, and I see no reason why that wouldn't have carried on.

[@AndroidBguz5]

@@TommoMcCluskey Maybe he was sort of pushed out because Renault really wanted Alonso back and give him the 1st driver treatment, just a thought.

[@BoxyMan28]

exactly what I said.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Nah, that's not fair. He had ambitions. McLaren and his ambitions were inline, his ambitions with Renault/Alpine stopped alining. It didn't work out for him sure but that doesn't make him wrong to have left, by that logic he should have stayed at RBR. Y'all are forgetting that Renault weren't on level with McLaren last season. It was easily an upgrade for him if he was able to perform. If he was, we wouldn't be hearing this talk now let's be real.

[@mrRTvids]

Hindsight 20/20 :) it was absolutely logical to take the Mclaren deal, in parallel universes.. Daniel wouldve taken the deal 9.5 times out of 10 lol.

[@NotApplicableJB]

Daniels move from Renault is the weird one for me. He had a team that was ready to completely build around him and make sure he had everything he wanted. Then he takes the move to a McLaren team that wasn’t guaranteed to be quicker.

[@jan.p7089]

Yeah and also at Mclaren he knew that there was a very very fast youngster I mean Ocon is also pretty fast but Daniel really buttered him in 2020 so I don't think it would have been bad in 2021.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

The biggest in hindsight stinker I think

[@nicholashe1198]

I’m hindsight very true, but Mclaren was on an upward trend since Norris and Sainz joined and you wouldn’t be unreasonable for thinking that Mclaren could’ve had a winning car in 2021. Obviously they had a fight with Ferrari that they could’ve probably won with Sainz. In hindsight the Mclaren was too different to adapt to.

[@chamindujanith6337]

Daniel moved to McLaren because McLaren finished best of the rest in 2019. His McLaren move was done even before the 2020 season started.

[@zeroelus]

I can totally understand why he left RB. Webber was the lead driver, they bring in Vettel and now he's the lead, Webber leaves. DR comes in, upstages Vettel, Vet Leaves. After a bit of musical Chairs, VER comes in and is the new golden boy...you get the picture. But Renault, I don't really understand. On the one side you have the behind the scenes drama. The whole thing with Cyril leaving quietly, and just this last year, Prost leaving under acrimonious circumstances, I think there's drama we don't get to see that had Daniel worried and that forced his hand. But on the other side, the team seemed his and it turns out that whatever drama there was, the car is solid in the midfield. I get it that Macca had the right people and was saying the right things and missed their targets for 2022 but...IDK. Maybe after he retires we'll get the whole story.

[@elliotttalksf1825]

The fall in Ricciardos performance is one of the most confusing stories in F1. He was once one of the best wheel the wheel racers on the grid but now he weirdly looks like a struggling rookie.

[@AD-df5tm]

Agreed. He looks almost nothing like the driver we saw at Red Bull all those years ago. It's so bizzare.

[@elliotttalksf1825]

@@AD-df5tm Trying to think of another driver who dropped in performance as much.

[@BZ_-zd3ph]

@@elliotttalksf1825 basically all of the setup sensitive drivers e.g. Vettel and Kimi

[@elliotttalksf1825]

@@BZ_-zd3ph Yeah now you say it.

[@Boomer19771]

It's the car! It always has been and McLaren's refusal to even slightly adjust to him. The cars are built for Lando. That is clear

[@PsychedeliKompot]

A big part of this is also just the actual car handling compared to other cars. The Red Bulls he drove had alot of oversteer and a more loose rear end / a strong front, similar to the 2020 Renault (the development of which resulted of Daniel needing more of that kind of handling in the 2019 season when the Renault was more balanced). It is also why his teammates were struggling with the car so much. So he was used to driving cars of characteristics similar to preferences of drivers like Max Verstappen and Kimi Räikkönnen. However the McLaren has enormous understeer instead and a very weak front end. Which is what Lando prefers. It is opposite Daniel's preference. You can compare 2021 and 2022 Daniel Ricciardo to 2014 Kimi Räikkönnen - car opposite their preference and not really able to adapt all that well. I think this factor of car handling is often overlooked and drivers get judged more harshly for that. But the truth is it plays a huge role. Daniel didn't suddenly lose all his skill in 2021/2022. Kimi didn't suddenly lose all his skill in 2014/2015. They simply recieved cars to drive that go opposite what they're best in. And this is the true reason why Ricciardo should've stayed at Renault/Alpine. That car had a strong front end (which is also why Ocon struggled in it, since he, like the majority of drivers, prefers understeer over oversteer) when they developed it towards Ricciardo. Nowadays it has a far weaker front end again because thats what Ocon and Alonso prefer (Alonso is like the maestro of weak front ends/understeer, hence also why he wiped the floor with Kimi in 2014 in a car built for Alonso). But had he not left, I doubt they would've moved away from the oversteery strong front end of 2019 and 2020 and the Alpine would be great for Daniel to drive still. So yeah, not entirely his fault, but the move away from Renault was his big mistake, and now he is in a car that is so alien for him to drive he just can't get on top of it. Some drivers are only blisteringly fast in very specific cars. And when it comes to oversteer, those drivers are Max, Daniel, Kimi, and Grosjean. Possibly a few more but most of the grid prefers understeer really.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

It's a good point well made. I think instances like this, and Kimi like you say, really prove how incredible a driver like Alonso is. He's driven so many different cars, and NEVER been bodied by a teammate. Always able to take the hardware and drive it close to the ceiling.

[@CSM13]

This is it. You hit the nail on the head here in every department. Car characteristics is a very overlooked factor

[@kakiho6981]

Charles and Max can handle super twitchy cars with edgy setups. That's why they destroyed their teammates which struggled with that exact handling.

[@kingzee7014]

Please u No

[@wonjoomin]

I had no idea that certain drivers preferred oversteer set up than understeer. If this is a well-known fact, why would teams pair up two drivers that have opposite driving styles (as in the case of Daniel and Lando)??

[@jayan.varsani]

To be honest, I can give the benefit of the doubt to Mick because it's only his second year in F1 and that second year is in a regulation change. That's pretty tough it's almost like a new rookie year. Daniel on the other hand needs to pick up the pace, I can give this benefit of the doubt only partially since he's an experienced driver. The car should adapt to Daniel's driving style but it's up to Daniel himself to adapt to the car so both the car and Daniel meet in the middle. I'm hoping he can stay and can sort himself out for the rest of the year, otherwise, I'd welcome Gasly with Norris and be pretty confident in Mclaren's future with this.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Not to mention Mick didn't have an experienced teammate to learn from in his rookie season. Got way less value that Zhou is getting this year for example.

[@WhoRayan]

@@TommoMcCluskey yeah in reality this is micks rookie season

[@BlissifiedHH]

@@WhoRayan thats what i have been saying, this season has acually has a teammate that will challenge him and the 2021 cars carry over pretty much nothing into the 2022 cars so i think many are too harsh on Mick saying he is done when this is pretty much his Rookie season

[@davidvalencia129]

@@BlissifiedHH yep, besides he spent last year battling no one, that Haas was so slow that he occasionally challenged the Williams of Latifi

[@OTRory]

Micks shit

[@peep3298]

The generation of drivers that came up from 2008 to 2016 is pretty tragic, many talented drivers never had a chance against the dominance of redbull and Mercedes and many never made anything significant out of their career. I feel the only exception is Sergio Perez who survived everything to land in a top team after 10 years and is now an integral part of the team. Ricciardo made it out but I feel as though he's steadily on the decline

[@valle3452]

Agree. How Perez survived the chop from Mclaren, the collapse of the Force India team, which he helped keep afloat, and then getting sacked again from Racing Point, to be in the position he is in now is pretty crazy. I doubt that Daniel will get another drive (anywhere) in F1 if his pace in 2022 doesn't improve very quickly.

[@dhmhtrhsantwnoloukas4492]

I have been saying this for sometime now. The generation sandwiched between the red bull and mercedes domination simply hasn't been able to prove its talent. A great deal of drivers weren't able to keep afloat and this newer generation of drivers is extremely talented

[@francescovellani2057]

Can you guys name some of those drivers? I'm genuinely curious cuz i can only think about a couple of drivers that could have been wdc material from those who came up from 08 to 16

[@peep3298]

@@francescovellani2057 not necessarily WDC material but would have been regulars on the podium etc. But Kobayashi, Magnussen (podium on debut), Buemi, Hulkenberg(was in contention for Mercedes drive), Kubica, Grosjean, JEV, and Kovalainen There may be more.

[@Carameliciousx]

Daniel to IndyCar would be amazing honestly. We know he loves the US, and the cars might suit him a bit more aswell, and it would also be a very smart move marketing wise since Daniel has a huge following already. I just can't see him in F1 much longer, as much as it pains me to say.

[@MustachioFurioso9134]

He's super popular here, and he being major sponsorship money. I honestly think McLaren should do this

[@briankiernan4756]

McLaren should do a swap with him and Pato O’Ward. Would be ideal for all parties.

[@Carameliciousx]

@@briankiernan4756 O'ward shouldn't leave IndyCar honestly. He's fighting at the top, just like last year, and he probably will for the next couple of years aswell. Him moving to F1 means pretty much starting at the back, new car, environment, rules, tracks etc. If anything get rid of Rosenqvist, get Daniel in his seat and get someone else in that F1 seat

[@kevinjimenez8512]

@@Carameliciousx but F1 is the pinnacle of the sport. You can always go back to Indy if it doesn't work out. He would jump at the chance.

[@Carameliciousx]

@@kevinjimenez8512 Might be the pinnacle, but still. I can imagine why he wouldn't leave.

[@omarelbed9340]

It hurts so much to see him go down like that especially as a die hard danny ric fan

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Big sad

[@juhiss912]

I've said it multiple times, I don't see Ricciardo staying at McLaren for long if he continues like this. He needs to pick up his performance NOW.

[@trenttaylor6313]

thanks captain fucking obvious

[@Ponchov009]

absolute genius

[@benbristow7810]

Genius

[@karthikpenumetch9300]

Oh shit mate we had no idea, thanks for this fucking ground breaking info

[@redwards8420]

Really???

[@yeahright9899]

One overlooked factor people seem to forget that lead to him suddenly leaving Renault was Vettel's Ferrari seat becoming available in 2021, I 100% believe McLaren was his safety net. And ultimately Ferrari made the right choice, they already had a "driver" driver in Leclerc they needed someone who knows all the nuts and bolts and can develop a car like Sainz

[@w1nterf0x_19]

@paper plane you only call it a wrong decision now, but last year was considered a good thing for Ferrari. I bet Ferrari even liked sainz pushing leclerc hard.

[@BrokeAndSquare]

@paper plane Sainz was absolutely the right decision. He's outperformed Ricciardo since 2019 so I don't understand how you could assume Ricciardo would be a challenger for Leclerc given his performance over the past 30 races. The F1-75 is not a perfect match for Sainz's driving style however, I think he'll able to figure it out over the course of the season just like he did last year.

[@FreddyMacT]

@paper plane LOL what makes you think Daniel at this stage would pose any challenge to Leclerc? He's getting washed by Norris atm.

[@FreddyMacT]

This is probably true, I think Ricciardo always believed given his Italian heritage he would end up at Ferrari at some point... but that door slammed shut and Ferrari made the right move. Sainz may never be a no.1 but for the most part (barring this season), Sainz is consistent, professional (specially for a manufacturer that doesn't want their drivers to have big personalities) and will be technically nuanced enough to be a good fit with their building philosophy.

[@FreddyMacT]

@paper plane I highly doubt that given his current struggles, and the fact that if he was bothered by Red Bull prioritizing Max... how would he feel if Ferrari all but told him "you're second to Leclerc." Which btw, that's exactly what Ferrari would do, and it's something Daniel can't deal with.

[@AD-df5tm]

Ricciardo has one of the most disappointing F1 careers I can remember. He looked like a world champion in the making as a young driver but he just never managed to put it all together and has actually gone backwards. It's too bad.

[@lameloball2867]

hes super overrated lol he's not a good driver.. thats just the truth man..

[@nictenic7641]

@@lameloball2867 He used to be a very good driver back when he was in red bull and Renault, with those teams he acheived p3 and p5 in the championship. But he’s just kinda lost it when he moved to McLaren and right now he’s a super overrated driver because of his good past. IMO daniel is like as good as tsunoda at the moment.

[@lameloball2867]

@@nictenic7641 ya lol hes fuckin trash now thats all that matters never seen a more overhyped racer in my life

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Without Mercedes in the mid 2010s, he's probably a 2x World Champion

[@justinclaus935]

@@lameloball2867 buddy is so clearly a DTS fan lmao clearly never watched him prior to 2020 😂

[@QuimFreecss]

The thing about Ricciardo going to Mclaren is that he does exactly the opposite than what he did when moving to Renault. He left a team where he was the clear number one and was on the rising to a team where there's a young golden boy deeply involved with the brand.

[@stevenjoseph6048]

Would love to see what Ricciardo can do in IndyCar. He would do extremely well there. It's such a shame how his career has gone, as if there wasn't such dominance from Mercedes he would've been a world champion already.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Danny would suit Indy no doubt. But would love to see him in V8 Supercars n'all. Being such a huge name in the US, I do think Indycar would make a lot of sense.

[@bjs7442]

I thought he may go to Nascar and join Kimi

[@SaintGBar22]

I’d venture to say he’d even get nascar a go in that number 91 at trackhouse that was made for raikonnen since he Daniel likes nascar

[@chronobrute5125]

I really like Tommo.. He seems like the kind of person who would be happy to chill at home on a Saturday night with a good action flick (Die Hard for example), a few chicken flavoured Pot Noodles, a couple of beers and a good old Tommy Tank to finish the evening off. Top lad. Subbed.

[@HerrBjork]

I'd love for him to succeed but I seriously doubt he will. He's the epitome of "being a great person is different from being a great driver"

[@thedoomaster14]

But he is a good driver, you have recency bias. Two mid seasons and yall forgetting everything

[@Drenwickification]

@@thedoomaster14 he never said he wasn’t a good driver. He said he’s not a great driver. Imo he hasn’t been great for years now, probably since his first 2-3 years at red bull. He’s clearly good but he’s not near the level of the top talent in f1.

[@ASM-tl9xt]

@@thedoomaster14 Fr. 2020 he was doing good too with such a shit car. 2021 was not great at the start but became fine. This year has been mixed, he showed good pace at italy and australia, first two races were a write-off due to covid and the car being shit. He hasnt shown that much pace last two or three races, but everyone is writing him off agan. If he does not improve I will change my views, but I will wait and see and I think Mclaren will too

[@bluengold3443]

@@thedoomaster14 He's great on good to great equipment but average on average and below cars. Adaptability is what separates the good from the greats. He'll probably get axed after or during the mid season break if he doesn't pull it together. Lando is soloing carrying the team rn

[@devanman7920]

"being a great person is different from being a great driver" is that saying a thing? Why would it matter what kind of person he is? Haha

[@HighPerformanceRacing]

I think it is actually a lot more difficult than people think when it comes to judging a drivers ability. Your point about Lando potentially being a top driver is spot on. I feel like a lot of drivers ability gets skewed due to the equipment they are in. Also this new generation are insanely talented. I feel like drivers get quicker with every generation.

[@maxmustermann6612]

I would honestly love to see Daniel in a McLaren Indycar. You stated how popular he is in america and the all out racing style of Indycar could really suit him.

[@florisbackx1744]

I thought it was common believe that Lando, Charles, Max and George are the 4 stand out drivers that wil, or should I say are taking over fromthe old guard. BTW love this long format column video's, well done!

[@Alecoes1]

Tommo, I now understand your pain from 2020 with Alex. As a Ricciardo fan, I go into every weekend like: ah shit, here we go again

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Welcome to my world

[@jan.p7089]

Vettel Fan here if I speak I'm in big trouble 😂☠️

[@thepipper2902]

Damn same with me!

[@benpierce61]

Lando fan so im okay lol (but i feel bad for Daniel

[@vaisakhps8642]

@@jan.p7089 lol Jose mourinho reference, most probably unknowingly still funny

[@krinord]

I love when you F1 youtube lads release videos on the same topic at the same time, I can watch everyones take on it. Just came here from Perspective 🤣

[@charbelabdelnour7909]

me too man lol

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Great minds eh 😅

[@randomclonetrooper1]

same dawg

[@krinord]

@@TommoMcCluskey Indeed sunshine

[@Stefan8u]

Really nice to see a video being respectful and considering the circumstances rather than a straight up roast of someone

[@cozyflannel]

Would love to see a Gasly/Lando McLaren in 2023 if things don’t turn around for Daniel. All this is painful cuz I think it’s fair to say most of Danny’s critics are also his fans. We want him to succeed.

[@captaintoyota3171]

Pretty sure thatll happen. Dani Riv only gets seat if Seb retires maybe

[@AniruddhaB]

He disappointed Renault (now alpine) back then to leave for McLaren without proper reason.The team was giving him priority, good car worthy of finishing in points but he still left without giving heed to long term relationship. McLaren is now disappointed with him. Karma.

[@battlesheep4137]

Yup. When it was confirmed in 2020 I thought it was not a smart choice. Leaving a Team that gives you everything you want (especially loads of money) just to leave after one (!) season?

[@ThatCrazyKid0007]

Yeah, honestly I have little sympathy for his struggles in McLaren because of that Renault move.

[@remedyt3740]

honestly was a bad move, they were moving in the right direction. Although I heard renault looked shaky in terms of there future in the sport at the time. So idk if that factored into his decision or not

[@remedyt3740]

@@battlesheep4137 It was 2 years, but yeah bad move, he finished 5th in that second season. I feel like he could've had something with renault

[@battlesheep4137]

@@remedyt3740 I meant that he decided to leave Renault after one season. It was confirmed at the beginning of 2020 and he then did the second season. Very little time to give the Team a Chance to improve.

[@jorgenamnum6481]

its sorry to see Dani leave, but its sadder to see the F2 champions just waiting in line for 3 years already

[@StevenYanni]

I’ve always been saying Max, Lewis, Leclerc, Lando & George are the best drivers on the grid right now and they are definitely championship contenders in the right car

[@petrol11]

Checo says hi

[@garythefishable]

@@petrol11 That's a joke right? 😂

[@ihavewaited90daystochangem51]

@@garythefishable 3rd in the championship and he has beaten max on pure pace a few times, definetly on the list.

[@garythefishable]

@@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 Nowhere near this list. He might be consistent but that's only because he generally goes too low to make mistakes. Come the end of the season he'll be lucky to get within 80 points of a driver like Max.

[@ihavewaited90daystochangem51]

@@garythefishable he was 4th in 2021 and 2020, low scoring my ass. You dts troglodytes need to learn when not to speak🤣

[@LandonH117]

Danny ric vs checo in 2020 was one the most underrated battles I have ever seen

[@justgary2471]

For the love of god, Danny, get yo shit together. We know what you can do! Get your mental right and stay confident. Push through brotha! We know what you can do!

[@3namesjames]

I love Daniel. Future Indy 500 winner. He could swap seats with Pato, go for the Triple Crown.

[@chinqlinq89]

Pato struggled pretty bad in F2 when RedBull tried testing him out I believe. Went to Super Formula, then to Indy. Would love to see Colton Herta give it a try.

[@allenjackson2846]

As much as we joked about Vettel not being able to adapt, turns out Ricciardo struggles to as well

[@TommoMcCluskey]

There's definite similarities there

[@Marcushalberstram749]

5:50 Even here, I feel the 15-7 doesn't fully represent how far lando was ahead of daniel. In spa, Lando was more than a second quicker in qualifying but crashed in Eau Rouge when the track was supposed to have been red flagged earlier. In Russia, Lando outqualified Daniel by 2 seconds and had much more pace and was looking set for the race win until Mclaren made the wrong call which handed Daniel 4th. Lando suffered more bad luck in the form of punctures in Sakhir and Brazil so the final points gap was less than the deficit in their pace. Really, daniel only beat lando on merit in 3 races - spain, italy and USA

[@arkangelgaming35]

Let's also not deny that the McLaren like Ferrari, Red Bull and Mercedes, tailor the car to their number one. Max was always best in the Red Bull while Albon and Gasly struggled. Hamilton was always quicker than Bottas'.. not without team orders either, Leclerc was the clear favorite at Ferrari in 20/21. McLaren when they lost Sainz, doubled down on Norris.

[@mzwierzycki]

If Lando didn't do these 2 mistakes, McLaren would have easily win 3 races on a row. That's just insane

[@subzaddo]

"Lando what do you think about the inters?" "NO!!!" But mclaren made the wrong call?

[@jakewilliams2784]

‘Until Mclaren made the wrong call’ Uhhhhhhhhh

[@nealfirstofhisname]

@@subzaddo They could have forced him to come in, especially since Lando didn't have the experience with leading a race in such circumstances.

[@ultim8mustapuro431]

We love you Danny Ric... BUT COME ON!

[@roxannelyson7715]

18:20 Actually, yes they did. James Key said in his Beyond the Grid interview they made a lot of compromises to the new car to help it suit Daniel better. Think about that. If they hadn't had to make concessions, McLaren could maybe be fighting Mercedes for those last podium positions.

[@SkiRacingOz]

Let’s be honest here, Lando is their future, they say this for their pr because it would seem harsh and cold for them to say they did not develop towards him, which they didn’t because they are all in for Lando

[@roxannelyson7715]

@@SkiRacingOz I can agree with that a little bit. But considering how much of a step back the car took at the beginning of the season, I kind of think there's some truth to it.

[@chadchadderton]

lando has no complaints over the car. he himself has said it is tailored to him perfectly. that sums everything up. lando has all the talent in the world and has a car made for him yet they cant challenge for the title? the mclaren car just isnt that good. zak and his team arent anything special and year after year its showing.

[@oxii99]

i've got nothing but love and respect for daniel but this hurts, i don't want him to fall off the grid

[@lamborgini2010]

The timing in this video is so fantastic. Was literally trying to a find a recent video yesterday discussing the current state of Danny Ric

[@alejandroquinones3636]

Honestly, I think it’s already too late. How much time are we going to give him? He is an experienced driver and even after given a new car with the 2022 regs he is still underperforming massively.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Fair. The more experience you have, the less excuse I think you have for stuff like this.

[@arkangelgaming35]

So does this mean Mercedes should boot Lewis?

[@wildnessinframe]

@@arkangelgaming35 lmao comparing Lewis to Riccardo

[@NewscasterNews4]

He’s probably got until the summer break before they pull the plug on him

[@feke5987]

@@arkangelgaming35 The gap between Lewis and George is nowhere near the gap between Lando and Ricciardo.

[@yipz1912]

I agree with everything you said, except the fact that everyone was hyping the relationship between Lando and Daniel as this colourful friendship as it was with Carlos and Lando, when in reality it's much different. It's quite difficult to explain, but I feel that they're more distant than it seems, partly because Lando is maturing on the sport and trying to prove to the world how good he is, in contrast to when he was with Sainz, where he was a rookie and Carlos was a role model of some sort (my opinion), and with Daniel he's not there to be buddies and is more focused in actually making things work. Russia hurts, Lando deserved that win but he was too engrossed in finishing the race he forgot the rain was actually a thing.

[@eugeneteh4052]

i really agree with the point that lando might be quite a lot better than we make him out to be

[@nottomcarter]

praying he can get to the level we know he is once again man :(

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Feelsbadman

[@mrjdmtunerboy.1463]

wut if Daniel join McLaren 2019 ? 2 year early I remember Daniel rejected McLaren offers 2018 2 years deal before be rejected

[@mamavswild]

‘The sport just doesn’t love him back’, really?! He has been given chance after chance, two years’ worth of them, to get himself together…McLaren has tried hard. The truth is Daniel has got a reputation of running away from his fights and seeking an easier run at being a number one driver…and his fans will blame the team, they will blame the teammate, they will blame the car…it will be anything and everyone BUT where the responsibility lies…Daniel is at the pinnacle of Motorsport…the excuses have got to stop…his choices were his own and he has always left of his own will…Red Bull tried hard to keep him even after he announced he would leave and few teams would attempt to retain ‘disloyalty’, but they have and so did Renault. I cannot even think of a team that would take a risk on him, backmarker or no…with his reputation and the baggage that his fans will blame the team if he underperforms, he would be a high risk/ low reward gamble. Daniel is clearly fighting some demons and perhaps even regrets..what he needs is a fresh start and that fresh start may lie outside of Formula 1 and that is not a death sentence…it may be what he needs to help clear his head…a true fan of his will continue to follow him and the blaming of car/team/teammate has to stop. McLaren has GOT to protect their future and they have hundreds of hard working employees that ALSO deserve better.

[@SaintGBar22]

Spot on analysis. I like him but I’ve always thought he was his own worst enemy. His own ego constantly got in the way and he made bad decisions over and over career wise.

[@MorganBF1]

True.

[@wad316]

That and his seeming lack of focus by being in front of the camera all the time, in contrast to Sainz moving to Woking just get to grips with the car during his time at McLaren.

[@Mandykiss4500]

Daniel stupidly decided during the Covid Break in 2020 before the Season started to leave Renault based off his first season there. Huge Mistake!

[@Lanes100]

I could see McLaren pulling in Pato O'Ward and offering Danny the seat at their indycar team. Honestly, I think Ricciardo would do well in Indy and god knows we need a good personality in Indy.

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

Moving to McLaren looked like a no-brainer back in 2021 with the team on the up and switching to Mercedes power, but the combo of Daniel not being able to adapt to the car and McLaren’s rise turning into a fall is just an all-around nightmare for Daniel

[@mgers75]

DR is one of the highest profile F1 racers in america, but would go unrecognized a majority of the time walking down main street

[@chinqlinq89]

I’m not so sure about that now. The amount of friends I’ve seen posting and liking his photos on IG was surprising. Friends that I never thought cared for motorsports in general.

[@echojg]

Very well said, the whole vid is just amazing. I hope Daniel gets back to his prime. I mean McLaren is kinda ok, but Lando is on another planet

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Cheers pal

[@bayleighrobinson2710]

There is an Australian sports journal that thinks that Daniel and Lando have completely different driving styles and because Daniel missed out on the bulk of testing, claims the team could only work on the car to what lando was giving feedback for, thus finalising the car to suit Lando a lot more than Daniel. Also, Personally I think that having a team come out and publicly say that you ate no good at the sport, is a bastard of a thing to do to someone's mental well-being. The team need to support Daniel unconditionally.

[@Mandykiss4500]

Some people are just extremely naïve, because of the Brakes Problems, Lando couldn’t do more than 5 Laps a time in Testing, because the Brakes overheated! Believe me, Lando didn’t change the Car! Also, Lando said this week that the Car still does NOT suit him & he is only just now starting to adapt!

[@bayleighrobinson2710]

@@Mandykiss4500 oh I completely agree you there. I didn't mean to say I agreed with what the sports journal says, only to show the level of patriotism I guess.

[@remedyt3740]

@@Mandykiss4500 ​ @Bayleigh Robinson Testing may not have had much influence, or maybe it did. Who knows? But I personally believe Mclarens design philosophy naturally favours Lando, understeer is ingrained in there cars, and drivers with a natural preference for oversteer like Daniel have always seemed to struggle in the past. See Kimi's struggles in his Mclaren days for a good example. The team can't provide both Daniel and Lando with what they want, the car can't reliably be designed to oversteer and understeer at the same time. Thus It doesnt seem likely Daniel will ever compete with Lando in the Mclaren at least. Look at gasly for example, blisteringly quick in the Alpha tauri, but couldn't adjust to the oversteer biased setup of the redbull, hence why so many struggled to fill the redbull seat after Daniel. The same can be said as to why Daniel is struggling in the Mclaren. Who knows if it had been lando moving to redbull if he would adjust to the oversteer. Of course this is just speculation on my behalf, but thats why i think daniel is struggling so much more than lando has been

[@jorgenamnum6481]

We really need a new team because we have more talent than seats and its always been that way but i feel we used to have one or two drivers that deserved a shot but right now you could fill a whole new grid with genuinely good talent

[@SaintGBar22]

But what good in f1 is a new team unless they have the financial wherewithal to actually field a winning car or a competitive car. Cars for the sake of seats in f1 is a waste

[@jorgenamnum6481]

@@SaintGBar22 its not like new teams haven’t come into the sport and dominated before. Specially with this new shake up in regulations id give a team with a good backing a good chance, say an Indycar owner or a Nascar team expanding. I still find it crazy Monster Energy isnt at least sponsoring a team considering how well Redbull has done in those ventures.

[@aaron_ow]

"...Oh, Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling..."

[@Ronny999x]

Ricciardo should have been 2014 Champion. As Bernie Ecclestone said Mercedes were helped by the FIA to stop Red Bull domination.

[@jensengreen-shiel3479]

daniel said in an interview last year that he would have left red bull at some point even if it wasn't at the end of 2018. I think the issue was leaving Renault.

[@bjs7442]

I heard that there was internal issues at Renault with Abiteboul under fire who was sacked and I think Daniel felt that the team was not focused on winning.

[@FlatMetal22]

A swap with somebody like O'ward really isn't off the cards in my eyes. He loves the US, the US loves him, I think he'd be mega in Indy & it would suit his character more I feel. He's a great driver but his form of late just hasn't been good enough & F1 is a cut throat business & with the calibre of drivers and all the top seats taken already its extremely unlikely he'll get the wdc he wants. Indy 500 winner on the other hand is a mega achievement still 👀

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Would be interested to see that no doubt

[@DS-sh1wk]

I agree. He has underwhelmed in F1. But he overperforms in a marketing sense. Especially in NA. But with Mclaren's IndyCar ties there serm to be opportunities

[@Revitalizee]

Oward renewed his indy contract just 2 days ago

[@jcgp85]

@@Revitalizee if I’m not mistaken, owards contract has some sort of clause where he can swap

[@MaticT]

Even filppin Ericsson won the indy 500

[@leomurray2592]

Cyrill said he would regret that decision and he was not wrong I'd love to see him replace Alonso at alpine but can't tbh

[@TommoMcCluskey]

That would be mad

[@ThunderTiger0801]

The car and raw talent is there. He just needs to figure out more quickly what his car likes and and what it doesnt like. He needs to work on his adaptation skills Cmon Danny you can do it!

[@imsgoalie1]

I think being a few tenths off Lando is him adapting as much as he can in a car that clearly doesn’t suit him at all, and Lando quite obviously likes. Lando is a tough benchmark, I suspect.

[@noelcollins2355]

for how long Sway???

[@chinqlinq89]

@@imsgoalie1 DR is my favorite driver, but seeing him get lapped by Lando in Monaco was the biggest tell tale sign to me that the Mclaren isnt for him and/or he’s just has lost a lot of his mojo.

[@jordanharris5013]

I think Zach Brown has been playing nice with Daniel since he came, never putting real pressure on him. That strategy hasn't worked. Maybe Zach's trying to put pressure on him to see if pressure makes diamonds. I don't think it's gonna work either. I honestly think things might get nasty in the McLaren garage and that'd be surprising considering how nice Lando and Danny are. Shit's gonna hit the fan eventually. I just don't know how it's gonna play out.

[@charamia9402]

I said it when Ricciardo signed for McLaren and everybody were sure he'd wipe the floor with Norris. Norris is at least as talented as Ricciardo. I was not surprised at how 2021 went.

[@mcl2584]

How can anyone rank so highly a driver which has one gigantic flaw: can’t adapt quick enough for the life of him. To be honest there are tons of drivers who are fast. What you need is something else. Adaptability is a big one. Yes he was good and could be good if the car is the way he likes. But why would a team do that for him? Why put the eggs on that basket if the risk is so high? One year you get it wrong on the specs and he will fumble. You have to be able to drive a shit box to the best possible position. That’s what separate the average drivers from the truly talented. Alonso fought for a championship on 2012 on a car that was often 4th fastest. I’ll give you the benefit for half a season to figure out the car because of the lack of testing on modern cars but you need to get on it after that. He was awful in 2021, only woke up for that Monza race and put up the boots for the rest of the season. this season, completely different car and still behind Lando

[@Maartwo]

Dang, I came here to say this but you beat me to it. I 100% agree. Situations like this one show the truth.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Denial Ricciardo fans are often Drive to Survive Netflicks fans, especially because of season 1’

[@IAmLeutrimTopalli]

Dang and people blame seb for not being able to adapt to the regulations in 2014 but look at daniel now

[@rrajeevy]

Daniel should go to nascar or Indy car. He would be an absolute superstar in America

[@osagiestuart8552]

Now that Checo is committed to red bull, I think McLaren should snap up Gasly fast, if not Piastri

[@lucaj-v23]

Just a reminder the deal to leave Renault was done before said momentum etc happened - it done pre-season 2020

[@ForeverF1]

If Gasly goes to McLaren, I see Albon moving to Alphatauri and Ricciardo to Williams if he wants to stay in F1

[@SaintGBar22]

Wouldn’t be a bad move for him to be honest. Bottas has rejuvenated his career at Alfa Romeo

[@noelcgray]

I think McLaren should put Pato in the second seat with Lando and Daniel should be the veteran at Andretti with Colton.

[@stephenhughes4]

I wish people and pundits would stop making excuses for him failing to do the one and only thing that he's paid millions to do. He's one of the highest paid on the grid but is getting made a show of by nearly everyone else. An "elite" driver should be able to adapt to nearly any situation instantly, not take months/years to get used to the car. Blaming not being able to get used set up and team not working for him is such a cop out. Take George for example. He hopped into Lewis' car in 2020. Set up for someone 6 inches shorter, had to wear shoes 2 sizes too small, no practice and yet but he still performed incredibly. Since last year I've been screaming for others to realise how bad he truly is now. Winning Monza was one of the worst things to happen because it clouded a lot of people's judgement. In the race itself, Lando was considerably quicker than him and could have easily overtaken him, but team orders stopped him. Daniel winning stopped people looking at his performances as much. He should have been getting warnings last year but he couldn't once he had that win. I personally think that if he had the personality of Lance Stroll he would have been fired last year but because he's a likable guy he is still there with thousands making excuses for him. Anyway rant over. Hopefully he's gone before the end of the year but I don't think McLaren will be that nasty unfortunately.

[@lucas_dr3]

Lando was “faster” because he A. Had the slipstream B. Ric was saving tyres . Ric went full speed in the last lap and took the FL and gapped lando. if he drove away sooner lando would have lost P2. Seems like you aren’t as smart as you think

[@stephenhughes4]

@@lucas_dr3 keep telling yourself that kid

[@lucas_dr3]

@@stephenhughes4 slipstream is everything in monza… DR was faster in the sprint and in the race. But congratulations to you, you seem like your a really hateful person.

[@liukin95]

I am rooting for Daniel to turn things around but I have to be brutally honest, he is the reason McLaren are falling behind Mercedes for P3 right now and aren't there to take advantage of Mercedes' struggles. If my memory is serving me right, McLaren expect to be challenging for the championship by at least 2024-2025 and if Daniel continues on this trajectory this year, the smartest thing McLaren can do is get a new driver for 2023 so then that driver can have a full season at McLaren under their belt ready to launch a potential title challenge by 2024-2025. Again, I love Daniel but F1 is unkind to those who don't deliver the goods especially in a top midfield car.

[@whatthe____6610]

I know that the focus of this video is Ricardo but I think we need to give lando the fact that he seems to be one of the best talents on the grid. Ricardo is going to struggle to beat lando that is just how I see it.

[@anguscampbell3637]

It'll be interesting to see if Lando ever changes teams sometime in the future, and how he then has to adapt to a new car philosophy in the way Daniel is trying to do rn. If the driving demands of the McLaren (that Daniel is struggling to get on top of) stay the same all the way until Lando decides to move on, then I reckon it may take him a while to get used to whichever new car he's in (unless he just is that good and can adapt to any driving style).

[@remedyt3740]

I agree, who knows what wouldve happened if the present had been lando moving to a car like redbulls philosophy, would he adapt or be pushed around by danny? It's hard to say hey

[@euph31]

If I was a team at the back of the field, I'd go after Ricciardo if/when McLaren drop him. They'd be getting an 8 time race winner on a discount who is incredibly marketable. Sign him to a 1 or 2 year deal to see if he can develop the car, if not, he can leave F1 and go to Indy or something.

[@StrewYT]

I was thinking of alex going to mclaren and Daniel going to williams or retiring from f1

[@brabhamoz6863]

I think if he turns it around from here and does something proper special.... I think I'll get emotional

[@bayandaimran]

Quote of the day "Form is temporary - Class is permanent"

[@RockSolitude]

It needs to be recognised that just because the regulations and cars have changed, doesn't mean the team has changed. And with that, it doesn't mean how they do things, their philosophy, how they design the car, nor how they set it up, has changed either. Daniel's struggles with the car this year are very similar to his struggles with the car last year for precisely those reasons - same team, similar set up and design philosophy, same drivers, same results. Meanwhile the team has practically built itself around Lando who's been with them for a while now and who they see as their future. That's not to say they are playing a game of favourites, but their car design, set up and philosophy - something they seem unwilling to change - is geared towards Lando, or it at least gels well and is a good match.

[@remedyt3740]

I agree with every word of this, and share this opinion100%. Makes it suck all the more to see people with no interest in forming there own opinion throw out words like washed up, and passed his prime based purely of comparison to Lando.

[@justadummy8076]

Ever since he left Red Bull my opinion of Ricciardo’s skill has fallen quite far, he has been constantly outcompeted by younger drivers in worse cars, he’s past his prime and he doesn’t have as much skill as Alonso or Hamilton to be able to compete at their age I never thought he would’ve pushed Lando, when he made the switch I thought it would be Red Bull signing Max all over again

[@theglitch312]

@Skyfox He copied Max’s setups only a few times when he was struggling. But, I have read comments saying engineers didn’t especially love working with Dan since he, for a lack of a better word, was quite ignorant when talking about the details of setting up a car. Like, as an elite racing driver, you should know how changing basic suspension settings influences handling but he just didn’t seem to care.

[@mirano15]

@@theglitch312 He said a few times (Beyond the Grid, pretty sure) that he knows nothing about cars and doesn't care to. He just wants to be given a fast car, and we know if he gets what he wants, he's a champion in the making. Just heartbreaking that he doesn't help himself in that regard. All his prerogative however.

[@stretch8390]

@@mirano15 It's hard to know how much of what Ricciardo says is true though and how much is cultivating the relatable persona that has gotten him so many fans and probably his next gig (TV) after he moves on from F1.

[@mirano15]

@@stretch8390 It's a point worth considering like any but I doubt it. Motorsport fans are petrolheads, as are Aussies and Americans. I don't think it'd be awfully wise to act like you know nothing about cars in order to appeal to a demographic of people with an interest in cars. That, and his seemingly genuine happy go lucky attitude make me think he wouldn't be lying about it. Maybe I'm biased, with all my exposure of Americans + Aussies being from automotive bits and pieces, but I dont think it's much of a stretch to take his word for it and say that he does himself no favours.

[@the.annethology]

@@mirano15 yea, i remember him saying this too during his podcast interview in The Armchair Expert

[@J_J1711]

Tommo your analysis of the situation was so well rounded and spot on. Really enjoy your content keep up the great work!

[@shri2789]

Daniel is most likely losing seat in the middle of season if he fails to perform in next 2-3 races. Management has already lost confidence in him.

[@Sliqhs]

That ad transition was so slick, great vid

[@dl4350]

just feel so bad for him, the pressure he's under from fans, the team, and the media cant be helping him

[@kdrewmorris]

Honestly if he can turn it around in the 2nd half of this season, I hope he retires and moves on to other things. I've watched drivers go way past their prime and crash and burn after a great career and it is exhausting to watch, especially if you like the driver. Kimi, Jimmie Johnson in NASCAR, etc. I want Danny Ricc to go out on at least a semi-high note

[@lebzgold7475]

At Renault, Daniel did really well, arguably 2020 was one of his best seasons. Carlos though at Renault struggled a lot (similar to this year), due to the car being pointy. Hulk beat Carlos despite having more retirements than him. I think Daniel and Carlos might be the type of drivers that perform well conditionally - if their car is their preference. Otherwise, they lag a bit more than usual. It's been pointed out that the McLaren is more rear-end focused, which would explain why Carlos did well in McLaren and Daniel hasn't been. In addition, we have no idea if Lando would be able to perform with a completely different car, that's more difficult/ oversteery.

[@remedyt3740]

I completely agree, as such I feel like it's not a simple as to just compare Lando to Daniel in the Mclaren, even if teammates are the first point of comparison. They both seem to have vastly different driving styles and preferences. Although nobody else seems to care to factor that in :/

[@theNewTomSawyer]

One thing with Renault I think you left out was the move to Mclaren happened during the pandemic break. His strong 2020 had no bearing on his decision to leave because he made the move along with Vettel and Sainz to move teams when contracts were normally announced. I think people also forget there seemed to be some turmoil at Renault in the team and at the corporate level and there were rumors of them pulling out of F1, yes that would've just meant selling Enstone, again. But I can appreciate jumping out of what seemed like a bad situation. He also hoped to help influence the 2021 car but we don't know if Renault was only offering a 1 year contract after 2020 which could have left him out to dry once the regulations were pushed back. A 3 year deal at Mclaren seemed pretty sweet at the time and I still dont fault him even if its been a rough year and a half.

[@louisschmitz8346]

Daniel also had no Pre-Season Testing

[@eganz1000]

It stinks when the best personality in a sport is on the outs. 💔

[@nickburak7518]

Tommo, you got it, man. I've come across of late an number of YT channels who exaggerate the hype but do not understand the real stories or real racers (and teams), which make all the difference. Danny has value, but yeah, it's a little bit of now (2022) or never for Daniel.

[@joecraddock6542]

As you said tommo, I agree that lando is actually that good, Daniel in his prime is good yes, the red bull was a good car but chronically unreliable. Red bull is a toxic environment, which is not what the honey badger wanted. If anything, this sport is hindsight this and hindsight that, but at the end of the day, the past and the present are 2 different things, and once your in that vicious spiral of good then bad performances, it’s hard to get out of. You look at seb for example, 4 championships in a row with red bull, and then failed to win with Ferrari, only 1 victory to his name in 2019, compared to Charles’ 2, and that was his first year at Ferrari. But people don’t look at seb the same way because not much more is expected of him, he has 4 world titles to his name, Daniel has 8 wins, but we expect more from him because of what he can do. It’s not because of what he is doing, it’s because of what he can do, you can tell that he’s still hungry for it, but if your hungry for it in a car (mclaren), or in an environment (red bull), that your not comfortable in, then there needs to be a solution, which is why the Renault stint turned out so well, because it was the perfect mix for him, a car he could deliver in, and not toxicity, within or outside of the team, and for me, that’s why he’s struggling.

[@remedyt3740]

I agree too. Although I think people continuing to say "Daniel in his prime" could be wording it wrong. It's hard to judge a drivers current ability when your driving a car that isn't comfortable as you said, comparing side to side with someone who thrives on that same setup. Given the right car/team and development path, e.g. early Redbull, 2nd Yr Renault. Daniel showed what he could do and it wasn't a slow degradation of his skill. It followed his switch to Mclaren and a car he desperately wants to convince him self his comfortable in. I believe, although he may improve, it may never suite his style if it clashes with his natural instinct as a driver, his hesitation in the car could persist. I know your teammate is often the first call of comparison, but I don't think comparing Lando and Daniel is a simple as say, it is comparing Max and Daniel in Redbull. I'd be interested to see how he performs presently in a car that suites his unique style against a similar styled driver. I think it would be interesting also to see what would happen if Lando and Daniel were to race in a car that was more neutral like this years ferrari, or how well Lando adapts to a heavily oversteer biased car like that of the 2018 Redbull / 2020 Renault. I think only then could people begin truly comparing Lando and Daniel.

[@annanagyhazi7375]

I would love to see Oscar at Mclaren and Pierre would also bring so much to the team, and ngl another brazilian at Mclaren (Drugo) would just seem so legendary!!

[@jordanharris5013]

What if Daniel is driving at the same high level that he used to and Lando is just that good and the car is just that bad. That'd be crazy if true but no way

[@ZOoM21]

"punted by Gasly" .... It was Lando's fault Tommo

[@ricknineg]

I don’t understand why people keep wanting to promote Gasly to a higher rated team. He is still very inconsistent and he didn’t leave on a high note after doing horribly in the Red Bull Seat

[@matejdudjak9969]

What do you mean he is very inconsistent, he was outdriving the alpha tauri for the last 2 years in 2021 and 2020.

[@ricknineg]

@@matejdudjak9969 inconsistent. Not always giving good results mostly in 2022

[@matejdudjak9969]

@@ricknineg okay in 2022 it's true thst he hasn't been the faster driver of the 2, but years before he was exceptional

[@tomascarvalho3153]

he decided to leave renault in april, before the start of the 2020 season. Don't forget that

[@beauty.of.the.struggle]

Fully agree with the Lando theory. It's a crime how infrequently Norris gets tossed into the "generational talent" conversation along with George, Max, and Charles... which I fully think that he is by dissecting his laps. The number of people that are thinking that Lando is not good or bad but just average means that he is having the most absolute "under the radar"/sleeper season with the consistency he's displaying right now. Mark my words: put Lando in a championship contending car and he's going to start shocking lots of people.

[@Achilles053]

The ‘generational talent’ is a silly statement anyway. The only driver in that category is Verstappen. That’s it. And even then, he’s a long way off from joining the greats. Russel and Leclerc are great drivers but the statistics speak for themselves. Speaking of statistics, Norris telemetry is impressive and he’s extracting the most out of the car. But he’s not proved anything apart from the fact that he can beat his teammate. Norris choked a win

[@beauty.of.the.struggle]

@@Achilles053 his team choked that win

[@Achilles053]

@@beauty.of.the.struggle No, he did. Team gave the call to go to inters. Norris said no. Norris spun. Not the hardest statement to put together

[@beauty.of.the.struggle]

@@Achilles053 true, but I mean, he shouldn't even be in charge of such decisions. He's busy defending and they're asking him questions instead of just telling him ideal strategy (which is what happened the first time. Then, when it was getting to be too late, he was desperate to hold position and told them no... Correct). Same thing with the Ferrari drivers this last race in Monaco, where Sainz had to override the decision that screwed over Charles, and told them to keep him out until he was ready for hards. These are scenarios where the teams should have more than enough data to accurately reflect the changing conditions, and it really shows incompetence on their hand when they need help from their drivers to make the assessments real time... So I think it goes both ways. Surely Lando's first win is right around the corner though; like I said above, speed or not, he's displaying some remarkable consistency this season

[@Achilles053]

@@beauty.of.the.struggle Well it’s all part of experience. It’s his fault, yet it’s his responsibility to learn from that and recognise those circumstances when they happen. The team can only recommend a strategy to him, it’s his responsibility to read the conditions and feedback to the team. He’s not been in contention for the win since so hard to tell if Norris would behave different in that situation. You use the perfect example of Sainz because that’s exactly what Norris should’ve done. Yet the team had the data they needed and told Norris it was best to pit. I’m looking forward to Sainz + Russel debut wins the most, but I’m sure Norris will win this season with a very lucky situation to happen.

[@TheTomo121]

Norris and Herta would be a wild lineup

[@theoriginalrabbithole]

When you consider how MUCH McLaren is paying Ricciardo, you start to wonder why they're paying him 'Top Driver' money for 'average midfield driver' results they could just as easily get from Alex Albon at a fraction of the salary! Ricciardo's entire career has been plagued with inconsistency. He strikes like lightning once in a while when all the planets are perfectly aligned and a little luck goes his way. The rest of the time? No cigar! MOST of the time, like Melbourne 2019, he screws it up somehow or just never advances through the field like a driver at his pay scale should. He's already 'made the rounds' with Red Bull and Alpine, so I can't see any bidding war occurring when he gets the boot from McLaren and yea, that's gonna happen. 😉

[@chadchadderton]

putting albons name in there is laughable. he wouldnt be a contender in the famous mercedes cars of past. but what you said about daniel is mostly true. his prime years were taken by a red bull team that more often or not was watching only 1 car go around the track. his move to renault was always going to be an uphill battle but he showed so much promise. the move away from renault was interesting, i understand he may have been sceptical of what the future held with the renault/alpine change happening but still. in terms of him with mclaren thats a weird one... theyve tailored the car 100% towards lando and even with all the talent lando has, they still arent competing for the title. at some point we should just realise the mclaren car isnt that good.. for either driver.

[@OddTomOut]

Definitely excited to see where Gasly is going end up. Definitely one of the drivers in the midfield teams with the most potential

[@luke_goins]

I think Daniel is one of if not THE brightest driver on the grid but we haven't seen that much at all this season and I think that if he doesn't pick up the pace, then his seat might be gone.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

I do think his first 3 races were okay, but things have tailed off since.

[@luke_goins]

@@TommoMcCluskey Very much agreed like you said in the video, but after Australia things have just fizzled out. I really do hope he can perform better soon, but unfortunately it doesn't seem likely at the moment. 🤞

[@Tri473]

There’s a pattern with Daniel. It always takes him about a season to gel with a new car before he starts delivering results. Last year was a new car, this year is a new car. I think he just needs more time than most drivers but once he’s feeling it, the potential is huge.

[@mikelkasa]

Lando will never reach the heights of what Ricciardo has achieved

[@simewood2040]

I think you totally nailed this topic. Very fairly too. Kudos, amigo!

[@MrKingoftechno]

@tommo I’ve read that the MCL always requires drivers to employ a completely different driving style than typical. If that is the case, is it so hard for a driver to adapt to it (Landon doesn’t count, the MCL is the only car he’s driven) , and how was Carlos able to do it?

[@anirudh4633]

because carlos has literally driven for like half the grid in all diff types of cars

[@cameronnielsen6483]

Even Carlos told Daniel how weird the mcl was (after he signed the contract)

[@Rainaman-]

That Colton Herta pic looks like he is 42 not 22

[@FreddyMacT]

I think there's 2 things that Daniel Ricciardo has to accept at this stage of his career... he is not faster than this generation of racer coming in. He left Red Bull because they (rightfully) chose Max over him. Now add Leclerc, Norris, Russell... these kids came up on drivers sims, they come from wealthy families that gave them not only the tech knowledge, the driver sims, but also the opportunities to be at the top level and Daniel is clearly not at that level anymore. The second thing he must accept is that given the current generation, he must swallow that he is a 2nd driver and go the way of Mark Webber to hold a seat. If he can't do that, he should walk away.

[@f1holdem333]

rightfully?

[@FreddyMacT]

@@f1holdem333 they've been validated by choosing Max over Daniel right... I mean they got a World Champion with Max right?

[@f1holdem333]

@@FreddyMacT how do you know they wouldn't have gotten a WDC with Daniel? saying that they did it rightfully is plain wrong cause they didn't know the future and they just pushed for Max no matter what. they could've been the amazing duo if they just respected Daniel as a number one driver for at least a year of two

[@FreddyMacT]

@@f1holdem333 max won, are you stupid? like this isn't an argument, it's a fact. They chose to back the WINNING DRIVER and they were PROVEN RIGHT. End of.

[@Loki-sk7bi]

@@f1holdem333 they couldn’t have with Ricciardo. He’s not mentally that strong or naturally fast to beat prime Mercedes. It took everything and more for Nico Rosberg to beat Hamilton. Ricciardo is not even at the level of Rosberg so no chance. Max was the correct choice for Red Bull. Mentally way stronger and naturally fast.

[@ASSAMain]

I think we all underestimate how important mental strength is. Not even in Formula 1, but in sports in general. We don't know, maybe Dani Ric found the missing piece to lando, but he can't deliver it like he used to do it. Everybody know that feeling that your head is acting against you. He wouldn't be the first who crashes and burns over himself.

[@glockmat]

With Felipe Drugovich slapping F2, I would really love to see the team that gave Senna 3 titles to put Brazil back on the grid would be AMAZING #SennaSempre

[@BasedDocumentarian]

Good shout.

[@joeldean2485]

I’d rather see gasly in the Mclaren tbh but drugovich is smashing it in F2

[@chamindujanith6337]

Drugovich should go to Williams actually.

[@wildbyname]

You really gotta feel for the guy. We all know where this ends up if he doesn't improve quickly!