The Rockstar Games Multiverse Theory

[@tinyrhysherbert7537]

Carcer City is mentioned in GTA III, before the release of Manhunt on Flash FM, as being "nearby", so probably in the State of Liberty, in the 3D Universe at least.

[@mr.andrew7820]

Actually is on Lips 106

[@riccardomallardo7779]

And gary shafer is mentioned as well

[@HorseChoker001]

Might be next to LC, so maybe Jersey City?

[@mr.andrew7820]

@@HorseChoker001 Nah,in Gta 4 is also close to Liberty City but there is Alderney (GTA New Jersey),is more likely Chicago or Detroit

[@themaskedwander]

Theory is that Carcer is Detroit

[@TheCommando_218]

I like the theory that la noire is a show in gta because it honestly felt like it

[@jamesdawg2813]

A show that Michael would watch

[@xSavedSoulx]

@@jamesdawg2813 While sippin cognac and smoking a cigar

[@2108czernikow]

@@xSavedSoulx or eating some chips

[@Macty]

​@@2108czernikowand watching his wife getting trained by her trainer in bedroom

[@ElAlienZac]

I really am sorry for what I'm about to say.. it's truly the number one "erm.. actually☝️🤓" moment in our modern society.. Although, I do have to say it. It wouldn't make sense for this to be a show in Grand Theft Auto 5 because GTA 5, and pretty much every GTA in general have usually comical and comedic commercials and movies. L.A Noir might not be the most serious at times, but I'd say it's more serious and dramatic than something in GTA 5.

[@kailoteiro]

there was a war in the Gta universe where the americans fought the australians. It's a minor fact but maybe this war is the reason cities changed name between RDR and GTA

[@Dolo18Hunna]

Is it cause Australia always bans their games?

[@McsmithersMysteryFiles]

"the things I saw in the war cousin ... They were upside down riding giant lizards and birds. They carried kazoos and used spider cannons... Are you fucking asleep roman?!“

[@unoriginalperson72]

​@@Dolo18Hunna I wouldn't be surprised if it was

[@reddeadvids1355]

​@Dolo18Hunna out of interest. Which gta games are banned?

[@Dolo18Hunna]

@@reddeadvids1355 both manhunt games are banned and gta v was banned but it’s not anymore

[@Dalt1n999]

My theory is that cities and states simply changed their names at some point in the 20th century, Liberty used to be New York and San Andreas used to be California back when Arthur and John were alive, but later got renamed and became what we see in GTA, with stuff as car plates and turism billboards being simply old stuff that no one ever bothered to change (which fits with the running theme of GTA that the US is actually a pretty run-down country), and then when characters mention California and Florida in GTA, they are simply referring to the old names, which everyone in that world understands actually mean San Andreas and Leonida.

[@PalmontCity4life]

Most logical theory

[@djiwoqpqkdqowldjdbx5378]

My theory is that they both exist

[@JefeVergas]

this, or what i kinda think is that Liberty City is a local nickname of the city. Like Chicago is know as the Windy City, they’re synonymous with one another and aren’t separate locations.

[@Gibbypastrami]

Literally, people over complicate stuff too much

[@Lil-normie-X]

Doesn’t make much sense In 4 and 5 the new cars have NY and CA plates, unless they’re collector plates (which they most likely are) I don’t see how the names is able to change in that time period Still an amazing theory

[@javiervillagomez6095]

midnight club shouldnt be in its own universe for one big reason, the brands, they use real car manufacturers and real clothing brands for those games.

[@-SoonerorLater]

For 3 and LA yeah. But 1 and 2 didn’t, they only featured real locations just with cars that had different names and appearances to their real life counterparts.

[@djiwoqpqkdqowldjdbx5378]

@@-SoonerorLaterI’m guessing it’s in the same universe as LA noire since both use real car brand

[@-SoonerorLater]

@@djiwoqpqkdqowldjdbx5378 That is possible

[@alexwilder5561]

If you look in the booklet for Manhunt 2 it says that the main character Daniel Lamb graduated from the University of San Fierro in 1985 and there are assets from 3D era gta games found in Manhunt 2 like the Voodoo and the Trashmaster

[@thegates-pearly]

MAX PAYNE takes place in the Remedy Universe (Alan Wake, Control…) Carcer City is mentioned in various gta games (3d - hd) RDR/LA NOIRE could be in-game media (Books/TV Shows…)

[@drstrangelove307]

Max Payne, the only series to be part of 2 different gaming universes at the same time.

[@thegameking3931]

So you're telling me max payne become Alan wake later since both are same character lol

[@thegates-pearly]

@@thegameking3931 if you played any any alan wake game u would know that alex casey is literally max payne

[@kristjaangaming1935]

​@@thegates-pearly but that's not Max Pyne that alex Casey He is character Alan wrote

[@almostthigh419]

Wasent it the first mission of LA nior where u find a cowboy that in the trash can and everyone said it was a reference too RDR?

[@BrandonTheOverthinker]

Quick thing to point out with Carcer city, if Liberty City and Vice City are in multiple universes then Carcer City can be as well

[@JetroYT]

Yes, exactly. That was why I said that Manhunt is in the 3D universe, instead of HD because even though it's mentioned in the HD universe in GTA 4 and 5, locations can cross universe, just not characters, so Carcer City can exist in every universe, but James Earl Cash can't.

[@mikenash6124]

​@@JetroYTJames*

[@JetroYT]

@@mikenash6124 whoops, thank you!

[@Xegethra]

There's at least one exception to the character rule. El Burro. He is a mission giver in GTA 1 and 3. Although, since it is different universes, then it's two versions of him, but he is in both.

[@yxng.zee_]

​@@XegethraClaude is in GTA 2 as well

[@prowthegamer]

I genuinely just think at this point they really are in separate universes. I just find the idea of the two cities (Fictional and the Real life) co-existing so dumb that I’ll just pretend that option doesn’t exist and just accept they’re in different universes

[@JetroYT]

I know, it doesn't make much sense until we see exactly what this canon map looks like, but there's too much evidence to support they co-exist with eachother.

[@splatinumm]

My headcanon is that new york and l.a and any other cities look vastly different from the real life ones, and that liberty city and los santos are the cities we know irl. What new york, florida, los angeles, california look like in the hd universe is a mystery

[@KnightUp138]

​@Splatinum69 well we know that San Andreas is California (and can assume it stills stretches to San Francisco and Las Vegas making it bigger than Cali) and that Florida is in the state of "Leonida" (which is unknown whether it's the same Shape as Florida and stuff)

[@coulahawke1411]

​@@JetroYT There's too much evidence to support you huff your own farts

[@HarhutandChalfant]

My explanation that I would give to that would be that the real life names of the locations are only nicknames or simply other names for the same place. Vice City has the other name of Miami, and New York has the other name of Liberty City. Leonida is commonly named Florida, by Niko in one of the Eddie Low missions in GTA IV. Sort of like how we call Chicago the Windy City, sometimes, in real life.

[@musicalhistory4392]

GTA 3 references Miami, Carcer City, and New York I believe. From there that meant both versions of cities could exist. Red Dead takes place in the HD universe mostly because some assets carry over and references like that book. It would surprise me if we don't have references to Saint Denis in GTA 6 since they are the only 2 active franchises with Rockstar right now.

[@JetroYT]

I wouldn't be surprised if GTA 6 has as many or more references to RDR 2 in it.

[@PHLYogi]

honestly i just don’t think the writers thought this far ahead lol gta 3 was like a leap of faith for rockstar at the time. i’m pretty sure they did not foresee how big the franchise would eventually get

[@discomorfius]

And isn't lamar talking to Franklin on how grove street wasn't always ballast territory ij reference to gta San andreas

[@qandayy7100]

One thing i am stuck on is the location of manhunt 2 isnt it supposed to be new orleans??

[@S.O.M-l5i]

I think Bully and all games past it exist in the HD universe. (Even though Bully isn't HD but Chinatown wars isn't either) (Except the Max Payne series) There's proof like Bullsworth School existing in GTA 4. Hatman is in both Bully and red dead Redemption. Even Bullsworth symbol existing in Red Dead Redemption 2. LA Noire possibly has a family member of Jack Marston. Someone in a list in a book was a Marston.

[@Maitreya-7777]

Manhunt and GTA are in same universe. One of the protagonist in Manhunt was born in San Fierro, San Andreas and he returns to the city at the end of the game. Michael De Santa had his first robbery in Carcer City.

[@JohnDoe-ce8mt]

Only in the 3d universe, not GTA 4, 5 and 6.

[@AGENT47_THEHITMAN]

You forgot Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, they are obviously part of the GTA Universe

[@spaghett1705]

It is covered in the start of the video that Rockstar themselves say that background characters/brands and things on the radio can exist between universes, which makes it more likely that references to California or anything outside the GTA universe on the radio or within advertisements etc. could be considered transient and not tied to the actual game universe it exists in.

[@somedude1510]

What about table tennis

[@DaGooeyGuy]

It uses the exact same engine as GTA 4 so probably the HD Universe

[@saulman12]

tv show

[@Djwunmoshen]

Forest Gump screes the chat

[@DlK69]

Carcer City was also mentioned on the gta sa Radio

[@JetroYT]

Yea, Carcer City is mentioned a lot throughout the series. It makes sense for GTA SA tho since they are in the same universe

[@DlK69]

@@JetroYT im only saying this since you only included the gta 4 & 5 references in the video

[@SomebodyCalledDave]

Does this mean Austin Powers Oh behave is in the 2D universe? 😂

[@JetroYT]

LMAO, then Rockstar Ping Pong must be 3D Universe too

[@Billioncompany786]

😂😂😂😂

[@jahimuddin2306]

I believe Red Dead is in the Grand Theft Auto HD Universe. There are references to California in GTA V and GTA Advance. My headcanon for this is that the names of the states changed recently enough for some old people still remember it and have passed it on to a handful of people.

[@JetroYT]

I don't think the city/state names are changed because it's confirmed in GTA 4 that LC was created in the 1600's or something. But you are right that Red Dead is in the HD universe.

[@gratermccheesy9650]

I tried to map the rdr map and gta map and it could be connected, but the scale is way off. As in 5 different states in the state of Louisiana. I’d argue that the storyline is canon, but in the same way Gta San Andreas and V are connected. The events happened since Dutch’s grandson is canon in gta online along with the German family being the grandparents of El Rubio, the book from Jack Marston, and the Bigfoot hunters grandson, but the map and direct events are likely slightly different. Just pretend it’s a movie adaptation of real events. It’s essentially the amount of differences that would be seen if that were the case.

[@Warcriminalwastaken]

In my personal headcanon, its still two different universes but both the events of the HD universe and RDR happened in the universes. Maybe the names are the only thing different in the universes and the events of the games happened the same.

[@Johnnyguitar777]

In GTA 5 there is gang Dialog mentioning the main character in GTA San Andrea's, so this should connect the universes together.

[@fillipe4700]

5:14 just imagine a GTA with this map...

[@WealthyInsuranceOfficial]

Stripes and stars mod

[@srpaodealho3108]

Imagine doing a post op sell mission on this map

[@iilocked]

Your videos are honestly put together so well for a relatively small channel. I’m sure we will all be watching you grow in the near future

[@JetroYT]

I appreciate that dude, thank you and I hope your right!

[@J.PC.Designs]

Midnight Club LA is not part of the GTA universe for a simple reason. Midnight Club uses real cars, GTA uses fictional ones. No car in GTA and Midnight Club are shared between the games, they only have similar counterparts.

[@AryamanRaj]

Masterclass of a video mate, keep it up

[@JetroYT]

Thank you man, I’m glad you liked it!

[@fxsupermaster]

GTA’s United States is so confusing.If San Andreas coexists with California, i wonder where San Andreas is. It’s an island, but then again Trevor implies that the GTA 5 map is only HALF of san andreas when reaching Paleto Bay during the “I Fought The Law” mission. San Fierro and Las Venturas have been mentioned many times in GTA 5 and 4 so maybe we just can’t see the other half. there are also US maps found throughout GTA 5 that show all 48 states except the islands of San Andreas and Liberty City.

[@JetroYT]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's canon that San Andreas is supposed to be an island. I believe it is only like that for gameplay reasons and is meant to be connected to the mainland. But you are right, I have no idea what this world of GTA looks like exactly, but I hope it's something Rockstar confirms one day...

[@manucg8655]

@@JetroYT Although many players think the characters see the map as an island, if I'm not mistaken in some GTA V or Online mission Lester refers to the western or the northern water mass as a river, implying that there must be other cities near them if not San Fierro or Las Venturas or just the rest of the country

[@Takeit1500]

Not confusing at all, if you know then you know. Which state is wich.

[@Death_Jaw]

​@@JetroYT that makes sense because the area north of bone county looks sliced like a cake and drops off like a cliff to the water except for the area by the airstrip that has a small dock and inlet.

[@Death_true]

How I simplify it is like this •Manhunt exists within the HD universe as an exception Carcer City is the fictional depiction of Detroit Lionel Starkweather is a renowned Vinewood director and runs the snuff film ring out of his let’s say vacation home in Carcer •Max Payne and L.A. Noire are gritty crime Dramas Michael likes to watch •RDR 1&2 are one novel like Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy and Red Dead Revolver is the loose Spaghetti Western film adaptation like the Dollars Trilogy •Bullworth Academy is a reform within the GTA Universe more than likely located in a mainland area of GTA America •Midnight Club is the GTA universes version of The Fast and Furious franchise •the entire story of Manhunt 2 is actually an overly elaborate conspiracy theory that Ron tells Trevor •Table Tennis was probably just a televised Olympic sporting event Michael fell asleep too one slow day The only thing that wouldn’t be cannon because it exists in the real world as a buck and film would be The Warriors game

[@cdasteez]

I read forum posts when BULLY came out theorizing that he was a younger James Earl Cash 😂 This ties up a lot of loose ends, great vid.

[@JetroYT]

I like the theory. Glad you enjoyed though, thank you!

[@YungPirateParkBoy96]

This has got to be the definitive explanation for the rockstar multiverse

[@sachamusica1]

So funny how we as fans are clamoring to make sense out of something that was meant to be overlooked this entire time

[@audax117]

Every single theory community always end up in the same thesis: "If it contradicts my headcanon, then it is just a funny easter egg"

[@SemorreButte]

A bully character with the Bullworth vest is in a gta4 cutscene, where Niko, Johnny, Playboy X are at Elizabetha's party before a mission

[@SemorreButte]

John Marston's hat is in a dumpster in L.A. Noire

[@S.O.M-l5i]

​@@SemorreButteAlso someone named a Marston was in LA Noire.

[@kacsamni]

One easy explanation for the confusion around miami being vice city and new york being liberty city is that vice city, liberty city, etc aren’t the actual name of the city. For example being las vegas being sin city

[@kingqunt8567]

Red Dead and GTA are not in the same universe, I refuse to accept that the Statue of Liberty has an identical counterpart that has a smile and holds a cup of coffee instead of a torch. Also the idea of Red Dead being this grounded and serious representation of America then suddenly turning into a whacky parody world with 2 New Yorks, 2 LAs, and 2 Miamis is just not worth the mental gymnastics to connect these two games

[@cristianiiv6418]

RDR world is super wacky, go play the side missions if you dont believe me, it connects well with gta 😂 There are in the same universe, there are too many references connecting both series and little evidence proving the opposite I agree with the the idea of the parody cities and the real ones coexisting is dumb the theory of cities changing names mid 20th century makes more sense

[@phoneticjuliet_1017]

They also mention Carcer City in GTA 3 on the radio

[@tinyrhysherbert7537]

I reckon you'll be one of the main GTA KZbinrs when VI comes out.

[@JetroYT]

I appreciate that a lot dude, thank you! Just glad people are enjoying the content I make.

[@ladyben-nobilityofbome9793]

so we just gonna forget about Red Dead Revolver, and the fact that the protagonist of that game is mentioned by some background characters in RDR? Then again I could be misremembering that last bit

[@JetroYT]

Red Dead Revolver is confirmed to not be canon to the Red Dead story, same with Undead Nightmares.

[@larwingz4954]

there's a theory that El Rubio's Ancestors was the German Family that Arthur and Charles saved during the final mission for Chapter 2

[@JetroYT]

I remember seeing something about this when I was researching. Might be worth a video someday.

[@young_BM-x7h]

Max Payne 3 isn't entirely set in South America. There's a part set in New Jersey.

[@thenerddesk111]

4:00 imagine living in a country that looks like that 😂

[@Bateman69344]

Honestly that will be fire

[@thenerddesk111]

For me it’s 50/50

[@TheGrouchyDude]

Here's a theory maybe they were named by their real world names but eventually it was changed but some people still refer to it as its original name

[@LowTierMarston]

Great video, I've always liked the idea of gta and red dead being in the same universe but I was always put off by the amount of people criticising the idea because of state/city names and stuff like that and I could never really come up with a reasonable explanation but thanks to this video I now have one.

[@JetroYT]

Thank you! Not everyone will agree but that's alright. Just what made sense to me. Either way, glad you enjoyed!

[@notBrocker]

@@JetroYTit doesn’t make sense cuz it’s an Easter egg Stop making videos glazing your opinions when they aren’t right lol

[@postalplayingpyromain]

i like to think theyre all in the same universe because the idea of trevor phillips and james earl cash existing in the same timeline is absolutely insane

[@Hybrid225]

I was recently playing gta 4 and an npc said explicitly ‘I’m moving back to new York’

[@manigitsolizie100]

Rockstar Games is the best ever they know their schedule and how the best things shall goes on.

[@JetroYT]

Facts, Rockstar Games on top.

[@Takeit1500]

Rockstar never miss 💯

[@flaminginvite]

The fact that it’s so hard to make connections other than names and pictures makes them by definition, Easter eggs.

[@scottoleson1997]

Instead of saying “a wizard did it”, since there are major historical events that happen in the GTA games that never happened IRL, so it’s possible NYC changed their name to Liberty City for some wacky reason

[@10Diamonds]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this but not only was Carcer City referenced in GTA 3 and SA - it was mentioned on LCS too. I played it last year and came across a radio ad where the caller was supposedly from Carcer City.

[@Adamdya]

Radios mentioning cities is very dumb tbh, those radio host probably didn’t realize their mistake, rockstar usually lets those hosts do their own thing

[@JetroYT]

Yea could be, but there is still the countless other references to real world locations, and the Miami Billboards, which Rockstar had an opportunity to remove in the definitive edition, but they never did, solidifying that it is supposed to be there.

[@Adamdya]

@@JetroYT sure but rockstar wasn’t really in charge of making the definitive edition, they gave it to another company and I’m sure they probably made mistake, it can’t be possible for two identical locations, that would be weird but I do believe that states might be a thing considering

[@TheBensonMalone]

@@JetroYTexcept Rockstar outsourced the definitive edition to Grove Street Games, a company which before working on GTADE had only worked on mobile games. So i doubt they cared enough to fix a 20 year old mistake.

[@joaovitordornelles3950]

the miami billboard is simply a 4th wall breaking easter egg, not meant to be taken seriously, its just for the player to laugh@@JetroYT

[@CYBERBOIUK]

LETS GO!

[@out1am977]

hi

[@JetroYT]

Appreciate it boss!

[@sourlesscream1272]

didnt expect to see you here

[@gabrielmeza4780]

Carcer city is seen in the GTA SA intro too in the flights screen and Max Payne 3 has photos of vehicles from GTA 5 and 4, some of which hadn't came out until a GTAO dlc

[@camtimmy9905]

For the real names and the fake names thing i like to think that the names rockstar gave us was like nicknames for the real places making them coexisting makes sense in my hand like this

[@father3dollarbill]

I can answer that 5 seconds into the video: no. If it is, it's because they retroactively made it so. But no, they didnt set out with a plan to do it from the very first R* game.

[@qu.]

Except for maybe Manhunt, I agree

[@band2r302]

About L.A Noire, there is a cutscene in gta V when Michael watch a movie that looks like L.A. Noire

[@splatinumm]

You deserve more subs

[@JetroYT]

Thank you!

[@dontayecason7137]

Carcer city being mentioned in gta IV and V doesn't contradict anything. You literally said only characters are tied to their universe and not location. Or did you forget that part?

[@DaGooeyGuy]

I don’t really think we should be including LA Noire or force it into fitting in the HD Universe, because that game was just not made by Rockstar at all and them referencing it in GTA 5 just seems like them trying to force it into their multiverse, they have to make an LA Noire 2 with references to San Andreas Liberty City and Leonida to convince me more

[@pauljames426]

One thing that really gets me about this is how you can have Claude & John Marston be an ancestor when playing GTA Online. It could be a nice nod but it also adds some doubt to some things being separate

[@qu.]

I think that was just there for the fun of it, and not for actual lore.

[@breadymold3206]

That's just a nice little reference they made to past games, nothing much to it

[@jordandeanda6244]

I still dont understand how rockstar says the characters aren’t in the same universe but lazlzo is on the 3d universe radios and is a character in the hd universe

[@JetroYT]

They ONLY make exceptions for radio personalities, like Lazlow. Every main/side character is what they are referring too as being separate to their own universes.

[@nugg3tz347]

All I would love is for some of the main characters to meet/interact with each other. James earl cash, niko, max Payne and stuff like that.

[@TheNamesJER]

Okay but where do we stand on which universe to place Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis?

[@rangerwh5508]

I always assumed that, one top of the three GTA universes (which directly contain the Manhunt series and Bully), there’s an additional one with real-life locations, containing the versions of RDR and maybe LA Noire and Max Payne

[@powpowfouyjrc6081]

I like connecting them and my headcannon is that at some point each of these locations just simply changed names and you just got stubborn people that call them by the original sometimes

[@abcd99275]

watched this video till the end, then i realized you had not hundreds of thousands, but 2k subscribers lol. keep up the great work

[@JetroYT]

One day hopefully lol. I'm glad you liked it though, cheers!

[@lucidlocomotive2014]

GTA 3 mentions Carcer City too so I don’t see how the manhunt thing is a contradiction

[@WealthyInsuranceOfficial]

You can see trashmaster and voodoo in Manhunt 2 (3D Universe Vehicles)

[@pondertalks]

My personal head canon is that Liberty city is just what some people call new york and all the alternate names we see in the gta franchise are just alternate names used for these cities and that its socially accepted to call cities by different names

[@namesryan50yearsago65]

I love how you didn't even try to explain how the real cities exist while their copy cats are sitting on islands in the middle of the ocean

[@JetroYT]

The maps being an Island surrounded by water isn't canon, that's why.

[@بتنيميوبويثبنبنبنبم]

I wish the 3D GTA universe was linked with the HD universe, and Rockstar had a better relationship with their voice actors, so they can come back for a short cutscene/cameo. Imagine seeing CJ meet franklin, or Niko being in a mission in GTA 6

[@Xegethra]

They've been doing this since GTA 1 (It's own theme tune mentions real life police departments despite them having the spoof cities in the game and one rock tune on the Unleashed radio mentions L.A. "Was cruisin' down the freeway with the guys in L.A." Music in GTA 1 was all made in house.) so either names being used interchangeably or the both fake and real places existing, either I can get behind.

[@EMenceUK]

My head canon is that all rockstar games are related and share the same universe. All the GTA games share the same universe, regardless of if characters are mentioned in other instalments. It’s pretty reasonable that not every single criminal we play as in the GTA games is known about or cares about by other protagonist to mention or bring up. Red Dead also takes place in the same universe, names of cities just changed over time, or potentially even stayed the same but now have nicknames that’s are more commonly used, at least by those local to go area. I’m a big fan of all the Max Payne games and L.A Noire, but I feel that they fit more comfortably as pieces of media in the GTA universe. Max is a trilogy of movies, LA is a popular crime drama. Manhunt could potentially be real life events, as the city does exist in the GTA universe, but I don’t really have a huge amount of head lore for that, nor Midnight Club.

[@Skooby]

Even Rockstar table tennis has GTA locations, one of the venues is in liberty

[@ks_ig2728]

In my opinion, Rockstar initially wanted to keep these universes separate but as time passed they’ve been experimenting with connecting them at least with just easter eggs.

[@QuuQuu]

Okay here me out, this video seems to have strong opinions here’s mine, I believe the real world and the Rockstar world ARE 2 universes, Rockstar worlds ARE NOT perfect recreations of the real world… sure, Vice City is BASED ON Miami but that doesn’t mean IT IS Miami, it’s Vice City, BASED ON Miami, NOT ACTUALLY Miami, I remember hearing a theory about their being some sort of flooding or natural disaster, that’s why the GTA worlds are on islands.

[@giuliooh4740]

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[@JetroYT]

Thank you for your comments! I'm glad you liked it!

[@Miniman15]

I definitely believe max payne is in the remedy universe. Max payne 3 is its own thing kinda

[@Arkiasis]

You missed The Warriors and Red Dead Revolver.

[@emanuelespinoza9325]

"The Warriors" is an adaptation of the 1979 film of the same name. It could not exist in the GTA universe.

[@mr.andrew7820]

There is a comercial in Manhunt 2 during the mission Broadcast Interuped about a cowboy show that the protagonist looks a lot like Red Harlow

[@LowTierMarston]

Red dead Revolver is probably in the 3D universe and maybe similar events happened in the HD universe as Red Harlow is referenced in both Redemption games.

[@Thomas_Angelo]

I still don't know if New York exists in GTA Universe along with Liberty City or not. New York exists both in Max Payne and RDR universes. But it's never mentioned in GTA.

[@iv9496]

The fact that gta advance takes place in the 3d universe despite it being a 2d game suggests that graphics really don't dictate in which universe these games fall under.

[@Jegbmf]

I feel like references to NY and LA are things that aren’t really supposed to hold much weight; you’re not really supposed to think about it too hard

[@joshdarroch]

I think they are in different universes but a version of the red dead storyline exists in the gta universe

[@andrasbihari343]

I think it's like in the series Loki. They exist in the same universe, but in different timelines.

[@connormoylan4320]

La noire is a tv show, max Payne is a movie/tv show, red dead is a book, bully is in the same universe, and so is manhunt, and gta, well the 3d era and the hd era are apparently a thing, but idk, if so, the games nefore mentioned fall into the 3d world whilst the book and tv shows and gta 4-5 are in the hd era

[@MisterBig-10]

5:20 I think I saw this somewhere on this, saying that even though the GTA cities are based on the real cities The real cities actually exist in the same universe as the GTA It's very confusing but it really is true

[@Dodomaken450]

GTA 4 characters are name dropped by someone you can hire in one of the heists in GTA 5, so characters apparently can be mentioned.

[@iMegaShadow]

I would love to see Max Payne having a happy life reference of some sort in GTA 6

[@travismeta3727]

Apparently Bully is connected to GTA and manhunt as well. It’s kinda crazy considering the amount of kids that have to hear news of our characters committing so many crimes lol

[@mbank3832]

Rockstar: throws in references for fun Fans: scratching their head until they bleed, figuring out if worlds are the same 😂

[@lucidlocomotive2014]

Only manhunt 1 and 2, bully, and the 3D GTA games share a universe. There’s not really any debate that “all rockstar games” share a universe. Otherwise it would be called Midnight Club: Los Santos, and LS Noire, and Max Payne would take place in Liberty city

[@TheRedRevival_]

Also, at some point , Lamar and Franklin mention grove st being a families hood, which ties back to San Andreas . So the hd and 3d universe are a lil more related

[@tadstrange1465]

Even if the real cities coexist with their fictional counterparts, references and Easter eggs, even if not fully invaluable, are not strong enough evidence to connect the Red Dead universe to the GTA Universe.

[@brummum6728]

El Rubio has a picture of the German family from rdr2 in his office. He's of German heritage. Would it not make sense to say those are ancestors of his? Instead of saying New York and Liberty City both exist, I think it makes far more sense that it's just 2 names for the same place. Even recently we've heard mention of Florida in the HD GTA games and now it's being renamed to Leonida. That's proof in itself that these places can have 2 different names.

[@grxzzly94]

4:46 San Andres is a play on “San Jose, San Diego

[@theguyinthere]

when you talk about game mechanics between games I.E. la noire when you find the serial number on a gun or the max payne 3 kill cams both being in Red Dead 2 as well as bullet time From max payne being in everything. it kinda makes sense that all these games are connected.

[@JetroYT]

This is good find. Although I’m not too sure if gameplay mechanics can be considered canon. I could be wrong though I’d like to hear other people’s thoughts.

[@TheDaltonCashShow]

Manhunt happened in the 3d universe... Carcer City just happens to exist in the HD universe as a locations as well. I saw a theory somewhere that some version or another of the story's events still take place in the HD Universe. San Andreas doesnt explicitly happen in the HD Universe, but the story could've implicitly happened in the timeline with undetermined changes.

[@homie.whiskers]

I think Rockstar never mentioned that real-life cities aren’t actually in the universe with the in- game counterparts simply because it should be assumed and they didn’t feel like it was necessary to say so. I think posters, license plates, etc that have California, Miami, etc. might just be developers having fun with it because those things mean something to them. Like for instance maybe a California license plate in GTA V is put there with the same numbers that their license plate used to have or something. I save all my old plates every time I move to a new state.

[@PalmontCity4life]

Everybody: RdR and GTA connected Me:all rockstar games connected+nfs+mafia

[@Macty]

Thanks now I don't know anything

[@temmylongbottom2702]

3:27 uhhh bro thats a golden double action he uses scholfields in 2 and a semi pistol in 1

[@Univer3eTwist3ers]

5:33 Ayyy thats me lmao

[@JetroYT]

ABSOLUTE LEGEND

[@Univer3eTwist3ers]

@@JetroYT Thank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@emrakultheaeonstorn7430]

Carcer City is first mentioned on GTA III either on Lips 106 or Chatterbox a lady says “In nearby Carcer City”

[@joaquintamayo3126]

Here before this video gets over 100K views

[@JetroYT]

Would want nothing more. Glad you liked it!

[@trixter2009]

I've always thought that hearing things like New York or California, is just OUR very own universes interpretation of the locations found in the GTA Universe. Kind of like how when we watch movies where the dialogue is English, but the film is set in a different country with a different language that we can't speak. It's just a translation of sort to make it more easily understood without having to learn the language, or in this case learn the new locations.

[@realmoviefactsnotfake]

Coulda always sworn Max Payne and L A Noir was a movie canonically

[@jesusgallego9202]

I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed that LA noir is part of the HD universe because in the mission reuniting the family the movie that Michael watches is filmed in LA noir