The Royal New Zealand Navy's HMNZS Manawanui, Grounded, Then Sank Off the Coast of Samoa

New Zealand Navy Disaster
October 7, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - discusses the loss of the HMNZS Manawanui off the southern shore of Samoa on October 5, 2024.
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[@wgowshipping]

🚨CORRECTION: Manawanui is the 3rd largest ship in the RNZN. I misread her tonnage and that is my error. This story is about what we know so far in the sinking of HMNZS Manawanui. Since the focus of the comments seems to be on the ship's captain, here is her background. Commander Yvonne Gray joined the Royal Navy in 1993 and sailed in frigates and minehunters. She transferred to the Royal New Zealand Navy in 2012 and Manawanui is her first command.🚨 Also, no comments on my excellent Maori?

[@PatRiarchy-qw6cp]

And her last command, as well

[@wgowshipping]

@@PatRiarchy-qw6cp That is true.

[@bobkoroua]

You tried at least.

[@sgtbrown4273]

Awesome work . Greetings from McMurdo Station Antarctica 😊

[@Richard-od7yd]

This is almost as bad as Sweden losing one of its New VISBY Class Frigates a couple of years ago .

[@ronalddavis]

first rule of navigation. don't drive the ship where the birds are walking

[@DB-thats-me]

Is that like the aviation rule. Don’t fly into clouds containing mountain goats! 😳😂

[@rogertracks7744]

Many idiots these days, only learn by their actions.

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

Now you tell me.

[@childofthekingjesusmylord8715]

I don't want to let you all know something. Certain nations are going to collapse yourself for the new world order. There's going to be 10 nations left of the new world order after the destruction of World War 3 and major catastrophic man-made weather weapons. That's a rove, but they worship Lucifer. As God they are Freemason, religion research it look up, William Cooper or mystery of Babylon on KZbin. William Cooper, check it out. Watch the hour time episodes. At least 10 of them put your trust in Jesus. Things are going to get rough. So anyway, they're going to crash out certain navy's on purpose. The ships were designed for an old air of kinetic war to defend independent nations like I said, over a 170 nations are going to join one of the 10 major nations and that is, at the last time we're gonna be just like big cities, I'm just telling you what the truth is? I'm just telling you what the truth is and there's a satan as if we've got a short time. He knows his time is short and God has got him one of a week. You know, as well as I do that. The days are going quick. God has shortened a time on earth. To give satan even less time and those that are righteous under Jesus.Are quick or time to get through this.Tell people that you know about jesus

[@Soundofwindonsand]

The green marker? The red marker? Uuuh. I Like Red ♥️

[@johnborio4470]

“The mark of a great ship handler is never getting into situations that require great ship handling.” Fleet Admiral Earnest J. King USN

[@shawnmiller4781]

Makes you wonder why he kept Halsey around after the second typhoon

[@dahveed284]

I need this to be a motivational poster for my boat.

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

hear hear..

[@stevenmarler5154]

@@shawnmiller4781 ask nimitz not king

[@robdog1245]

@@shawnmiller4781 Because 'Bull' Halsey was considered at the time one of the greatest naval commanders in US history, up there with John Paul Jones and Isaac Kidd. Never mind the fact he kept screwing up, it would've been a not so insignificant blow to morale to oust him when morale was needed the most. Plus, lets be honest, I think King and Nimitz were slightly afraid of him.

[@dorbie]

OMFG, the delicious irony of a ship grounding itself while conducting a hydrographic survey.

[@knightrider585]

The lesson here is don't survey uncharted waters, I guess.

[@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289]

​@@knightrider585first female commander? Maybe the lesson is DEI hiring is bad.

[@DarrenParsons-k8t]

The media stand up said that the survey was completed before the vessel grounded

[@kiwiadventures3773]

That is true. But nothing much you can do if you lose power. The cook straight ferry is testament to that.

[@roddas26]

​@@kiwiadventures3773why are defending this so actively?

[@mcallahan9060]

The phrase "You had one job!" comes to mind.

[@CarlGerhardt1]

Ah,...but at least the crew were 100% vaccinated! Thanks, Jacinda!

[@clownphabetstrongwoman7305]

and she munched it… because it seems she is not into blowing.

[@obliviouz]

If only they kept that in mind, instead of diversity hires and diversity naming...

[@tomriley5790]

His job was to find the reefs :-)!

[@dawnmoriarty9347]

The one job is to keep the crew as safe as possible.

[@Qwestionmark]

Excellent report, from a NZ resident who wanted to hear not the comments from politicians or journalists, but from someone who knows his stuff. Thanks!

[@13699111]

I agree and add no negative citizen trolls allowed either

[@skybluskyblueify]

@@13699111 There's plenty of misogynists and essentially racists below. Blaming those characteristics rather than wait for the details to come out. They are jumping the gun because their emotions are that strong about those issues.

[@lyricallyunwaxable1234]

​@@skybluskyblueifyOver 26 years and NZ gave her, her 1st command. It's not hatred, it's ridicule. There's huge suspicion that it was a diversity hire, call me misogynist, homophobe and transphobe, guaranteed I'm not. We sent a man to the Olympics as a woman, we don't want all that woke BS. We don't hate woman, we don't hate gays we h8 the new normal!

My thoughts exactly. This is the site to come to.

[@pppp-jf5cs]

@@skybluskyblueify No, DEI hiring may well be the issue. Limiting the pool of applicants to a tiny proportion of the population is NOT the way to get good people. It also drives others away from a career in the navy. We will have to wait and see.

[@murrayappleton4106]

A kiwi here, well done with the pronunciation of the name of this vessel. The Commander is ultimately responsible for this debacle.

[@Ari_00X]

you are not allowed to say that - she is LGBTQ - !!

[@flyinkiwi01]

Accountability? Yes, well we will see won’t we.

[@jemma_19988]

The commander is a" progressive " just like the shps sponsor!!

[@misiknuo]

@@dfinlen They allready spin it,they used words like... it was a 'triumph"they little lesbian Female Capetain diversity stunt cost them one ship..there is one more female Capetian that damaged another ship..

[@gtestastretta1]

100%…a total disgrace

[@midnightfenrir]

Ran aground, capsized, caught on fire and then sank. That sounds like an Achievement for sinking an enemy ship in a game. "Use four methods at once to destroy an enemy ship"

[@shawnmiller4781]

Sounds positively Russian Black Sea fleet doesn’t it

[@pastorjerrykliner3162]

Or maybe a Monty Python sketch...

[@johnlamb3101]

That’s the level of expertise in the Royal NZ Navy! Yahoo! Well done! Always the “Best in the World!” This “fuck up” surely was the “best in the world!” Hope there is a Court Marshall over the sinking!

[@billrehm3590]

​@@johnlamb3101 she is gay, everyone look the other way.

[@phlogistanjones2722]

@@pastorjerrykliner3162 YES! My thoughts precisely. At least it was not in a swamp.....?

[@tobycowman]

Captain Cook managed to get around without a chart and no engine.

[@Gsoda35]

must have had engine trouble so it was shutdown.

[@jackdawg4579]

and he also hit a reef ...

[@shoutatthesky]

He was a man

[@jubeaumont6305]

..and eaten

[@jjgreybeard]

But Cook was an old salt, not a DEI hire...

[@Yamatification]

I worked in engineering maintenance for this ship for many years, but I've been out of the industry for years now, my recent knowledge is second hand loose lips and I can't say too much but I'd still estimate it's the 2nd best maintained ship in the fleet after the new HMNZ Aotearoa and maybe the most used midsized ship in the fleet, surveying (it has a moon pool for divers and submersibles) and most training exercises as it is the most multirole mid sized ship in the fleet (Canterbury and Aotearoa are bigger, Taupo and Hawea are smaller). I heard it's sonar, radar and info sys were recently upgraded and the primary method of surveying, it could launch unmanned submersibles via it's moonpool and it didn't have much capacity to carry many smaller craft or launch for surveying. It's not an old ship and had the most regular maintenance and had nearly constant upgrades being installed and planned, it definitely wasn't a quality or maintenance issue in regards to the state of the hull, I didn't work electrics, could've been a fault there but unlikely. They say they had a powercut which caused them to lose control and run aground but I wonder if the chain of events was the other way around, it's probably our most frequented country for training so a good element of complacency could've played a part, new sailors enjoying the scenery as they pulled into familiar waters. Samoa is probably our closest protectorate by relationship, we invaded them in 1914 holding control until 1962 taking control for the British Empire from the Germans, uncles old tales say it was just one old German in a hut by the beach drinking coconut schnapps. There are more Samoans in Auckland than there are Samoans in Samoa, half the island is part of America, their industry is coconut and fish based with a healthy heaping of tourism and farming. Wire tapping speculation is preposterous. At 14:42 The area the smoke is coming from is most likely an engine fire with smoke rising up from below, with that level of roll the engine could be oil starved and catch fire, with the standard 20mm hull it could easily rupture after running aground with spilt fuel and exposed electrics inside the hull. Probably the only reason to be glad New Zealand is nuclear free! I've heard speculation from crew that because of it's frequent role in training it has some of the more experienced officers training the fresher crewmates in the navy, so response time and immediate individual decision making could be lacking compared to a more experienced crew? The same hearsay suggested that the original captain, Lt commander Andy Mahoney who supposedly turned down promotions to continue sailing as captain, was eventually pushed out and replaced by Commander Yvonne Gray the from the British Royal Navy (rumoured DEI hiring that all branches underwent thanks to the Jacinda Ardern's Labour/Green govt). I can't speak for Commander Gray, I never met her personally, but her bio states she was studying to be a teacher and only joined the navy to earn some money so she could eventually open her own restaurant but decided the navy suited her better and gained 19 years experience in the branch, apparently her having a wife is relevant? Regardless the previous captain Lt Commander Mahoney was an outstanding gentleman everyday I met him with a wealth of experience, overqualified for the role but still extremely down to earth, always interested to learn and improve operations, quintessential leader. Background from NZ Navy; coming from a lineage of British Royal Navy men, ex commercial diver, 22 years sailing in the navy with an impeccable record. I can't help but imagine it might've been a much more boring headline with him in charge... As you say it's a massive hit for our navy and budget, we're a very small but highly specialized country, we put all our eggs in one basket and do a lot with little, we try to make it the most advanced basket of eggs we can. When it comes to the military, everyone is an over trained specialist in their field and we can't afford any casualties.

[@BurgerBoyda3rd]

This is the only comment anyone needs to read

[@Emma-ih2cu]

Amazing, you managed to both be sexist and slip in an insult to Jacinda Arden in a comment on a ship sinking, (possibly homophobic too but your writing was unclear). Hope you feel better getting that off your chest.

[@user-cd1hs2vw2x]

Yep, now we all know what really happened and why. NZ navy, scratch one $100 million ship for that appointment.

[@Right-Is-Right]

I stopped reading your scribe when you referred to the small group of ships NZ call a navy a fleet. It's barely a few boats.

[@johnstott1431]

Thanks,this is far better than the video. A great country NZ!

[@fissile1]

Hydrographic survey. Using the touch system.

[@pablogm5191]

hahahaha

[@oldschoolman1444]

Yup, we found bottom captain! 😅

[@BiBh375]

percussive surveying

[@HoneyBadger80886]

Bumper failure

[@tjav001]

NZ does everything by braille

[@mikebritcom3171]

The Irish Navy recently suffered a similar setback when an oar broke.

[@Heisthelightoftheworld]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

LOL

[@shauny2285]

Cold. 😊

[@rowenahaldane8061]

Tres witty!!!

[@2l8mate59]

Lol...😂

[@ravenfeader]

Great job Captain Yvonne and im sure you will be promoted to Admiral after this wonderful display of your talents .

[@timboz88]

Agree, she made sure that the crew spent 20%+ of their training on "Te Reo" learning, DEI training, self-hate struggle sessions for any white blokes still on board, Wellness counselling. I could go on. The Chinese PLA Navy cannot stop laughing 😥

[@DisFantasy]

Failing upward is prevalent.

[@larryt4884]

Wokeism is doing well in NZ.

[@fredforsythe8310]

She apparently qualified as DEI on numerous counts.

[@roark8009]

Failing upwards is the status quo for DEI hires.

[@AlwayzPr0]

Imagine being so bad at your job that you run aground on a ship full of sensors for mapping the sea bed.

[@stevenakn1]

😅😅

[@gtdcov]

Do you know who was in command?

[@HowardDrysdale]

How do you assess who/what is “so bad?” Do you understand anything about seamanship? Publish the facts that led you to this “guess” as to how it happened!

[@donoimdono2702]

​@@HowardDrysdale- you may want to engage brain while reading comments. pretty obvious what he said

[@jaydanbaker123]

​@HowardDrysdale The Captains prior career history seems to be the leading issue. But regardless of the seemingly obvious diversity hire, the ships function at the moment was mapping the sea bed which leads to the hilarous irony of a burning fire truck. It doesn't matter if it actually wasn't this captains fault the buck stops with her full stop.

[@BoredSquirell]

The ship was surveying reefs - it definitely located a reef

[@theophrastus3.056]

"Reef ahoy!"

[@donoimdono2702]

“During our survey we discovered a large amount of previously undocumented damage to the reef consistent with impacts from a large ship.” - ya don't say....... was one of those indentations the exact shape of the _Manawanui_ hull?

[@pingukutepro]

and become one

[@minnyh]

irrelevant

[@Maxx1066]

Kinda expensive learning cure how many more ships will the need to find other reefs?

[@BrendonSmith-e9v]

I learned more from your presentation than I did from my Government. Thanks!!

[@dongiovanni4331]

They found the reef!

[@farmerfarmerer3847]

Now it is a reef.

[@Sagart999]

Correction - They re-discovered a "well-charted reef", according to Sal.

[@MarkD-pl4fu]

Sonar contact! Brace for impact! Well, obviously the reef was at fault

[@johneddys2351]

Probably smoking the reef too.

[@Knuck_Knucks]

Did you see the reef? Well, I hit it didn't I? 🐿

[@andrewpease3688]

Exact position of reef clearly marked on charts successfully confirmed.

[@albatwitchwiggler6905]

Yup, they're definitely still there

[@owenstockwood5040]

And now it's even marked with a convenient shipwreck so everyone can see where it is!

[@ducker09]

CRUSHER called it an incident. The just sunk the bloody ship . And she calls it an incident. Stubbing your toe is an incident crusher . What she did was sunk our ship . Namely a disaster😮

[@Gizziiusa]

one involving incompetence at that.

[@gcflower99]

Ship's Master, Yvonne Gray "...once hoped to open her own restaurant...". She may be doing that soon.

[@JestaBl1tz]

sexy fingers lol

[@AB-ez4rm]

I doubt it. She's a DEI hire and they can't fire those. It would prove their mistake are placing the tool in charge.

[@DerAngriff]

@@AB-ez4rm nah, her naval career is gone. DEI or not. The loss is huge for the NZ navy and it will take years to make good on the loss.

[@williampotter2098]

Well, she'll be chipping paint and washing dishes for the rest of her time in the Navy.

[@qbi4614]

@@AB-ez4rm but the water identified as being deeper

[@diqweed69]

"You're good! You're good! You're good! You're good! You're good!" **metallic screeching** "You're good! You're good!"

[@kkiwi54]

Right hand down a bit, I said right hand! 😂

[@0x_hackerfren]

Annnnnd stop.

[@imgr5143]

One word... Incompetence.

[@vtjake3761]

well no wonder. The Captain is a DEI lesbian woman hire? So no wonder it ran aground? I mean give me a break, hire drag queens, and this is what happens.

[@USMCArchAngel03]

That part of the world if famous for those sneaky reefs. In fact there's so many that you even have to look at the map sometimes!

[@DIRTYdeeds613]

DEI Captain

[@guyrosinbaum7745]

Chart

[@andrewtaylor940]

Maps are racist and sexist

[@robwilcox9296]

True. I was on a ship that tried to shortcut through some known reefs and bumped one of those sneaky reefs and bent a propshaft. The propshaft was 9 inches OD.

[@suestreet9934]

I wonder how the charts happen

[@donnamarie3617]

Thank you from NZ. Great to hear the actual story.

[@lyricallyunwaxable1234]

NZ navy oceanography ship sunk by anemone attack.

[@NedNZ]

Another Kiwi here. This Captain was a Jacinda Ardern DEI hire. Just sayin"

[@lyricallyunwaxable1234]

@@NedNZ Any superstitious mariner worth their salt will tell you, the ship was renamed under a cursed star

[@GaryLee-qh4ho]

Thankyou for your indepth input, and also you very kind words towards the end of the video!!! Being ex Pat Royal Navy Sailor down here in NZ, I hadnt been able to green much info, on an otherwise embarrassing situation, and being quite remote, and the weekend which slows things down, I found your report quite helpful. Cheers!!

[@hydewhyte4364]

I want to know if they're going to sue the captain for damage to the reef like they'd do to any civilian captain.

[@michaeldowson6988]

Why the captain, rather than the crew member monitoring the depth gauge.

[@Mishn0]

@@michaeldowson6988 It's always the Captain's fault. It comes with the hat.

[@PehDoePeet]

​​​@@michaeldowson6988 Oh boy, there always has to be an apologist for a failed system . Did Not Earn It. Quotas. "Equity" .

[@paton57]

It's Milatary they pay the bill

[@michaeldowson6988]

@@Mishn0 Then why do they waste money on investigative enquiries?

[@pnuttheclownh2254]

As a 77 years old/retired/less-abled/bedridden/wheelchaired paraplegic/with PLS-ALS medical conditions. I can only communicate by AAC device, text or email only, I have subscribed, liked. and I am actively watching and commenting from Quakertown, Pennsylvania, USA.

[@13699111]

Sal is the best cover's many interesting storylines

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Morning Pnut, Hello from Australia!

[@richardlaws-ls3rx]

Hey brother, welcome....

[@Jutta-th9dc]

Hello from Germany!

[@craigwilliams7635]

Hello from Puyallup Washington! (Outside of Tacoma, south of Seattle);-)

[@adamrandall5163]

That captain's new nickname should be "Rainbow warrior" LOL I remember on HMAS Success, I think the navigator made a mistake that nearly grounded and he was removed immediately. Glad the mistakes in my profession are easily hidden.

[@mapper7310]

wow dark joke lmfao

[@joshportie]

​Not really a joke. Captain was first lesbian captain dei hire​@@mapper7310

[@Redbaron_sites]

The only problem with your channel is that often I click to just catch the main part of the issue, but you are such an amazing teacher and I begin learning the moment you start, and cannot, regardless of how busy, leave the podcast early. ❤

[@deansawich6250]

You can just back track to the beginning and watch it delayed. I often come in after it has started, but just go back to the start point and watch it delayed. Sal is the best so I want to catch all the podcast. 😊

[@HoneyBadger80886]

Good report. Wind and sea conditions were appreciated.

[@natehendricksen3338]

Glad the crew was rescued safely. Terrible loss for NZ. Thanks for the report Sal.

[@firetruck988]

Stop defending the captain guys. You're in command because you're supposed to know better, and this is an embarrassing way to lose your ship.

[@darbyohara]

It’s not her fault! She’s just a woman! There was lots of switches and buttons 😂

[@perryallan3524]

That has yet to be determined. If the ship lost power it may not be her fault. There may be other factors as well. Let's wait for the investigative report to be at least semi-finalized before jumping to conclusions.

[@lylesleisure]

They have to protect their positions of power. If new Zealand found out the ship sank because of incompetents.. Someone might think dei is bad.

[@richardwillson101]

Without knowing what happened, you can't exactly blame the captain? What about the officer of the watch? What about the rest of the "skilled" crew on board? Until we get more details, why bad mouth the captain? I don't want to defend them if they did wrong. But nobody has that information yet. For starters, we don't actually know what the vessel was tasked with at the time. It could have been a sanctioned high risk operation. Or she was simply incompetent and unable to manage the vessel and crew. But again, we don't know.

[@jamstagerable]

​​​@@perryallan3524 Most people will wait for the investigation to be finalized like waiting for Diddy to see his day in court, before coming to any conclusions.

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

The captain / commander / skipper is always responsible.

[@stoerenungeheuer543]

The same goes for a skipper. I like this challenge, for example when I ferry people across the river. I am responsible for their safety and the safety of other traffic.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Unfortunately presidents don't meet at standard.

[@-Scotty]

The captain was a woke lesbian karen..

[@windwardhaven]

True, unless you're a DEI hire

[@missourimongoose8858]

But it's a lesbian so....

[@radioactivemike1]

Why does every episode start with me shaking my head at “In today’s episode….” Strong work, again.

[@bigtoad45]

What a top heavy tub. And of course leave it to New Zealand to use the Helen Keller Hydrographic survey by Braille method.... "Captain Philpot Sir, we've hit a reef!". "Good Malarkey, mark it on the map."......

[@redback38]

@@bigtoad45 haha funny👍

[@michaelbishop7654]

Oh, you're talking about the ship. I thought you were talking about the New Zealand Defense Minister.

[@lightweight1974]

​@@michaelbishop7654Same.

[@AlexMcNZ]

Hey! I'm a kiwi and I resent that remark! There was nothing wrong with the boats design 😂

[@rjmjr410]

Concise, objective analysis of a maritime event, utilizing a lifetime of experience. This is why so many of us follow you Sal. Always appreciate your work. Thank you!

[@tickticktickBOOOOM]

My uncle was a helmsman in the US Navy. He once got commended for refusing to obey a direct order from the OOD. If he had obeyed her(!), the ship would've grounded. Thankfully, the captain was quickly called to the bridge and countermanded her. If she had been instead, my uncle would've wound up in the brig and the Navy would've been down a ship.

[@revpgesqredux]

My Dad was on two subs...once the guy responsible for the planes messed up and put them on the bottom. They got away without damage, and after they recovered, there was a beat down, all officially approved

[@tickticktickBOOOOM]

@@revpgesqredux Sadly this captain isn't gonna get the blanket party she deserves.

[@CallsItLikeISeizeIts]

USN had same affliction years ago, multiple ships came down with Runagrounditis

[@andrewtaylor940]

I thought the US Navy's problem was running into things. Cargo ships, etc.

[@MarkD-pl4fu]

But were those crews up to date in their diversity training?

[@moappleseider1699]

@@andrewtaylor940 The US Navy has about 470 ships. NZ Navy has like 5 tug boats, a cruiser and a destroyer.

[@MARKCARTLIDGE-sm3mz]

If the usn ship was an LCS it wouldn't have hit the reef. It wouldn't have got there without breaking down or falling apart before it got any where near grounding. So it have been worse.😮

[@CaptApple]

Which led to a rash of never commanding agains.

[@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus]

Been waiting for this. Excellent discussion without drawing premature conclusions. But you did rightly allude to why a vessel this size would have been in this unknown territory when much could have been done with smaller, shallow-draught vessels without risking a major asset. Guess we’ll have to wait for the findings of the enquiry. 👍🏻

[@ncox001]

the reef had been surveyed before and this vessel was equipped to survey such features. The better question might be why were they off the reef in bad weather, and why did they apparently drive straight ashore

[@jackmehoffer7819]

She was trying to parallel park.

[@alejandropacheco7832]

Hey come on now!!.... It was a fair mistake, anyone can confuse the bridge for the kitchen! 😂😂😂

[@steveperreira5850]

The New Zealand Navy is a joke, literally. Put more women in charge, make it a bigger joke. Don’t forget to add the transgender captains. Absolute farce.

[@lenerdcruz]

Hillarious!

[@thekenthouse6428]

Her ability to do that was equal to her map reading skills.

[@Mostlypeaceful896]

NZ Police will come to check my thinking if i laugh at this

[@BonannoCM]

That's one ugly ship. It hit the reef out of sheer embarrassment.

[@calthorp]

The thing about owning such a ship is, anything you add to it will make it look better!

[@craigmooney3744]

140 million ! they saw jacinta comming😂 did it come with beautiful rust streaks?

[@BonannoCM]

@@craigmooney3744 Something tells me the previous owner had lost interest, and left it to deteriorate at anchor without a crew for a substantial amount of time, or the new owner didn't care. As someone who spent four years as crew aboard a nuclear attack carrier, I find the latter scenario deeply disturbing.

[@darthkek1953]

The lesbian captain is no oil painting either.

[@calthorp]

@@craigmooney3744 when they sold it to the navy they sent them pictures of when it was new. The navy was so embarrassed when they got it they slapped cheap navy grey paint over them.

[@mrokesene]

Diversity, Equity and 150 million dollars down the drain.

[@JTA1961]

I sink slow too...

[@kspfan001]

what?

[@vtjake3761]

@@kspfan001 The woman who was the captain of the ship was a DEI hire. Her qualifications: being a lesbian and a woman.

[@emptysoulwalkinup]

Go woke go broke :D

[@Weshopwizard]

Everyone said I was daft to build a ship on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest ship in all of New Zealand.

[@chrisenlow3117]

Ah, Monte Python.

[@jubeaumont6305]

Is that because shes from Yorkshire ?

[@olpaint71]

You beat me to it. That's the first thing I thought of when Sal ran through the sequence of aground, caught fire, capsized, and sank. :)

[@phatzgunderson]

SPAM

[@TheGor54]

😂😂😂

[@philorkill]

I hope the investigation is not shallow.

[@SouthBurnettShireCountySheriff]

Lol

[@TheRealVolk]

Love the Lego globe and the red location pin. Practical yet whimsical. Well done. 🐾

[@duotronic6451]

"Grounded, caught fire, keeled over, then sank beneath the water." None of this 'captain goes down with the ship' out of sheer embarrassment stuff.

[@USMCArchAngel03]

"Grounded, caught fire, keeled over, then sank beneath the water." In the old days that's what would have happened to a captain's career after an incident like this. But now..?

Unfortunately she’s a lesbian who often mentions her husband and her pronouns 😢😢😢

[@mdt105]

When the most notable event of your career sounds like a Monty Python skit, you know you're in trouble.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

DEI in action

[@deanfirnatine7814]

@@USMCArchAngel03 She checks multiple DEI boxes she will be fine

[@theodoreolson8529]

Survey reef...check.

[@redback38]

Funny👍

[@diqweed69]

At a depth of... How deep is our draught again?

[@stoneageart9965]

The Captain Trained as a teacher,ran a failed restaurant,joined the NZ navy 8 yrs ago and hired by our government over experienced officers

[@eire711]

She looks shocked that the water is actually wet.

[@robmanueb.]

You forget the 19 years in the Royal Navy.

[@Sagart999]

As an American, it struck me as very odd that NZ would hire a Brit over promoting one of their own. Does this represent some sort of long-term practice? Just curious.

[@qtrfoil]

You're a liar.

[@PatRiarchy-qw6cp]

​@@robmanueb. Didn't seem to help

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

From the faces of the crew on the beach - somebody fucked up big time.

[@mediocreman2]

Yeah, the captain.

[@olanderdecastro52]

They do have that “ what in the world was the NZ Navy thinking when they commissioned a schoolmarm to be a ships captain?” kind of look on their face don’t they?

[@GAZZA55]

nah thats the new cast for treasure island.

[@v1rotait23]

A great summary of the "sinking incident", Sal! As a Kiwi, I find this very embarrassing for our dedicated and skilled navel defence force soldiers and for all of us from our island nation. There will be much comedic mileage gained from this debacle, with much pub banter, blame and hilarious stories thrown about for a long time to come. I hope there's a damn good reason for this mess occurring and that the truth will be revealed and we not be subjected to some nefarious political cover up like what the US seems to experience every day. Keep the blue side up, and the brown hard stuff away from the keel. David

[@danmadden1080]

Thanks for the video and hello from New Zealand 🇳🇿.

[@sgtbrown4273]

I'll be heading that way soon ..... in like a few hours 😂

[@danmadden1080]

​@sgtbrown4273 hope you enjoy your stay 👍

[@qbi4614]

you must be proud!

[@geraldmurphy7669]

Would be interested in a voice recording from the bridge leading up to this.

[@tomrogers9467]

Bitching and whining as usual”!

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

Accidentally deleted, & ships cameras lost power & are broken.. :-/

[@jjmckay6man1]

Don't tell me where to drive this ship, I'm captain. Full speed ahead. I know where I'm going.

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

That will never see the light of day thanks to the fascists in New Zealand protecting their diversity hire

[@pahowitzer446]

Seems to me the captain wasn't qualified.

[@johnschofield6675]

Oh yes she was fluent in Tik Tok dancing, pronouns. choosing the correct colours for rainbow flags and had a degree in pointing the finger of blame......

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

Pronouns strike again 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnrday2023]

How could hydrographic survey ship hit a well-charted reef in calm weather, catch on fire and then sink? Fortunatly all Royal New Zealand navy personnell were rescued and safe !!!

[@katyasilentium]

They are not telling the true story

[@jjgreybeard]

It can when piloted by an incompetent DEI hire. This is unprecedented...

[@tonycoker6523]

There was Malfunction before it hit the reef and sank so it drifted onto the reef . End of the day best to wait for the result of the inquiry before passing Judgement. As a former N.Z Navy Seaman this is a major shock.

[@jjmckay6man1]

@@tonycoker6523 the malfunction happened long before the ship hit the reef lol. The promoting of an idiot.

[@danielch6662]

Listen to Sal. It is not uncommon for ships to catch fire and sink after they are abandoned. The question is should she have not given the order to abandon ship after it became obvious they were not getting the ship off the reef. Tides are predictable. I can imagine the sea level going down, and the ship tilting more and more, until it slipped off the reef. Question is, how many people dies in that instance, in a useless attempt to save $125m.

[@jerryodell1168]

Sad. No military related sailor ever wants to see a friendly nation's Naval ship in trouble. Especially, New Zeeland since some of us shared service together with New Zeeland's sailors years ago. USS Canberra CAG-2, USS Dahlgren DLG-12, and USS Jouett CG-29.

[@bradbutcher3984]

The captain was a DEI first lesbian captain and only had 8 years in the navy. She was a school teacher before.

[@es-qf2gw]

@jerryodell1168 look at the bright side, excuse to buy a new one!!!

[@XX-qd6ke]

No Merchant Mariner ever wants to see that either.

[@NateWall-ms7qv]

New Zealanders think Americans are lower than barnyard animals. Dont fall for the flowery talk.

[@1FXC]

Thank you for your service.

[@Thepuffingyank]

Back in the 90s I worked a summer as a dock in Cordova and the research vessel Rainer came into port. I got a private tour……man that is one techy ship, and I can only imagine that they have improved upon it further

[@thehedgeknightnc3681]

"You can't park there!"

[@multitablez7825]

You can't dock there

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

she did turned on the hazard light ?

[@paulus7137]

If her quick thinking and wit helped her to make the decision to evacuate the ship, why didn't it help her to prevent it from running aground?

[@garynew9637]

Positive spin lol

[@jayhoney2422]

She touched base to soon... 14:37

[@ExcretumTaurum]

current reporting is that it lost power first

[@jjgreybeard]

That's how they spin the story. Utterly miserable failure is now suddenly quick thinking that saved lives....

[@tommooe4524]

Good point.

[@anthony9thompson]

I would love to hear from the Captains former colleagues from the RN and her performance

[@kingrichard728]

Good video. Just one point, HMNZS Aotearoa is the largest ship in the fleet

[@wgowshipping]

My apologies. And Canterbury is a bit larger by tonnage.

[@Rooxie973]

​@@wgowshipping"HMNZS Aotearoa is significantly larger and designed for logistical support and Antarctic operations, while the HMNZS Canterbury is focused on amphibious and sealift capabilities"

[@patkelly6349]

Are the about the size of a manly ferry. Lol. The kiwis need to be investigated regarding their accents also. Shocking

[@user-ih7gc7dt9l]

@@patkelly6349funny coming from an Australian 😂

[@jubeaumont6305]

Well, it is now !

[@JohnSmith-vi5pz]

The New Zealand navy lose a surface vessel and gain a submarine.

[@salguodrolyat2594]

That can't surface.🤣

[@Knuck_Knucks]

reuse, recycle, repurpose... ♻ 🐿

[@francoistombe]

Rnznavy sinks old ships to form artificial reefs. This one acted pre-emptively.

[@SandPounder]

We can't loose the arms race to them bloody Aussies! Unfortunately, our brilliant Govt forgot they hadn't chosen a nuclear path nor a waterproof design, but we got a Diesel-Electric DSRV Host Sub before them! They won't steal our Pavlova, Rock Bands and Doctors any more. Plus, now we only have 1 Naval Vessel unable to be staffed therefore the Captain fixed part of our Navy's issues.

[@thomascorbett709]

Yes, the old Russian conversion

[@sambrown8224]

Retired USCG Marine investigator/inspector here. Morning Sal. Looking at that track line and the AIS data suggests one thing, this vessel was on autopilot and no one was monitoring the progress of the vessel. The vessel never changed speed or course when approaching the coast, crossed into shallow water and drove straight into the shore. Also in regards to a loss of power, thats the fastest "loss of power" vessel I've ever seen. It's like no one on board even knew the island was there.

[@iatsd]

@sambrown8224 >>Retired USCG Marine investigator/inspector here. Morning Sal. Looking at that track line and the AIS data suggests one thing, this vessel was on autopilot and no one was monitoring the progress of the vessel.

[@ncox001]

which, unfortunately, suggests incompetence or negligence on the part of the navigator/CO

[@paulmulvaney5007]

I like your points made. I'm writing a report here in NZ. On the Breakfast show interview I heard NZ Defence Minister Judith Collins suggest a power outage may have caused the ship to run aground. A Power Outage? Doesn't sound like a natural thing to cause a ship to sink so quickly to me! Were the crucial Power Management Systems-PMS and Dynamic Positioning-DP2 operations met? What were the contingency plans in place? There will be a Court of Inquiry led by NZ Defence Force into the incident. I'm a member of Taxpayers' Union lobby group & agree there will be conjecture on the cause of the sinking so there must be transparency. Samoa & its Pacific Island neighbours and all other small island developing states are particularly vulnerable to the adverse impacts of climate change. It's well documented sea level rise and the changing climatic conditions threatens the regions land, livelihoods, ecosystems (marine greatly) and their culture. With increased known changes a check of the ships compass was required. Geomagnetic energies may have changed magnetic north!.

[@sambrown8224]

@@ncox001 As an investigator, my job was not to point fingers. We had a simple role: Find out the details, determine the root cause, find a way to prevent it from happening again. I don't like to accuse people of wrongdoing, but the facts wont lie and they WILL point somewhere.

[@thosoz3431]

Power outage? Drop anchor.

[@mcburcke]

How does a hydrographic survey ship run aground?

[@randomnickify]

Extremely precisely?

[@purplespeckledappleeater8738]

Sneaky reefs snuck up on the ship.

[@daveBit15]

Easy: start hiring personnel using other than meritocracy standards.

[@daveBit15]

@@randomnickify Damn, you made me spit juice all over my keyboard.

[@Carlos-im3hn]

Gradually and Then Suddenly ?

[@culturevulture3382]

Thanks Sal. In addition to the reporting, it's good to have an informed commentator on the history of the NZ navy and maritime events.

[@shedtime8357]

That is an excellent analysis. However, a lot are focusing on the "how did it happen?". When the real story is, why is it that the Captain gave the order to abandon ship after only one hour? Especially considering that the vessel remained afloat for another 14hrs, and there is a photo from 0500 the next day showing the ship still had power. IF it was so badly damaged it could not be saved by the crews DC efforts in only one hour then why did it stay afloat for another 14hrs, safety of life at sea is critical, but in this case they evacuated the ship 1952 and rescue boats did not arrive until 0100. In that time a life raft and a ships RHIB were washed on to the reef. More questions than the grounding causation.

[@whya2ndaccount]

A bit unfortunate that the incumbent MINDEF, Judith Collins, has been in the job for a year and is still struggling with the acronyms (or was poorly briefed). Glad though that our mates "across the ditch" are OK.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

She can't even brush her hair before a TV interview...... Jeeeez

[@therocinante3443]

She's the most qualified, never mind knowing nothing about these matters.

[@jubeaumont6305]

​@@therocinante3443 If the NZ navy have under qualified personnel, do you really think they should have a navy? That's a danger to everyone else

[@whya2ndaccount]

@@jubeaumont6305 Their comment didn't make sense, but in the context that they were replying to my comment about NZ MINDEF, I don't think it has anything to do with RNZN personnel..

[@korakys]

Judith Collins is one of NZ's most experienced currently serving politicians, even having previously been Leader of the Opposition. As a long time hardliner security matters are comfortably in her wheelhouse. Throughout her career I've never detected a hint of competence from her and she has been one of NZ's least popular politicians for the last decade.

[@CaptApple]

That's some fine surveying there, Lou.

[@Damien616]

Yeah, SHE hit the reef, but SHE saved lives. The illogic of the MSM on this entire debacle.

[@tigarxox]

Seems negligent being close to a well known reef. That’s a lot of valuable equipment lost.

[@sgtbrown4273]

Not to mention the HORRIBLE damage to that economy system.

[@CraigMichael-z3v]

It's a blow for tourism for Samoans

[@muhdiversity7409]

I see a promotion in the Captain's future. It is New Zealand after all.

[@NateWall-ms7qv]

NO FUCKING SHIT

[@bjorntorlarsson]

"- You take the rudder, darling." "- No! I've had enough of the rudder. I've had it for at least an hour now." "- But I had it for two hours before that, it's only fair." "- You forget about last week!!"

[@sjdtmv]

DEI is all the NZ Navy has done for many years, and yes you get results like this

[@kentslocum]

Every time a new vide from Sal comes out, I am both excited and horrified. There shouldn't be this much bad stuff going on with shipping right now. 😢

[@JohnSmith-vi5pz]

Captain, hated by the crew as she made them peel all the stickers off the doors traditionally donated by navel ports they have visited. But never mind, a good box ticking exercise, and applicable to the navigator too......

[@hoopslaa5235]

Is this true? Either way I’m sure they mysteriously all went to bed when any alarms went off and weren’t available.

[@JohnSmith-vi5pz]

@@hoopslaa5235 I believe it is true, the info came from an ex-uk RN officer.

[@louisvillaescusa]

Who can say, "diversity hire?"

[@richardwillson101]

​@louisvillaescusa a captain? Highly unlikely.

[@jaymenza5196]

@@richardwillson101she was, look at photos of her

[@tdb7992]

You can't help but feel sorry for the Kiwis. Their government really under-invested in defence, in a style similar to Canada, whilst Australia has been on a spending spree. It was causing a bit of annoyance with the Aussies as there's a military alliance between the two countries and it was felt that NZ was letting Aus do all the heavy lifting. Really sad for them to lose a ship.

[@biggest23]

Speaking as a Kiwi currently living in the US, my fellow Kiwis have been getting the governments they deserve for a while now. Many lefty midwits in my lovely little land, were all basking in the sunshine they were convinced was shining out of each others ahh-souls and proceeded to squander all the social wealth accrued by previous and prescient stewards of the nation, on virtue signaling displays they were convinced would increase the rectal lumens being emitted from their aforementioned politically aligned ahh-souls. All the Kiwis that fuggin knew better, are all the Kiwis that will be tasked with straightening schidtt up, just to regain some semblance of the nation they are the deserving heirs to and stewards of, although they still won’t register the fact that without clearing the decks of these chaos causing, dark hearted lefty midwits, this will be played out again and again, like an incompetence playlist, set on shuffle.

[@sailorgabbie]

I worked on RAINIER and FAIRWEATHER. both vessels 50 years old and slated to be replaced (i believe those are under construction). The survey launches are 29' aluminum prop driven with Cummins diesels. Full suite of electronics and even a head. Very capable boats. They go out a full 8 to 10 hour day because 50 gallons of diesel lasts when surveying. One of my YT videos is on RAINIER as we depart San Francisco.

[@utoob7361]

They ran aground while conducting a hydrographic survey? Like when you're testing how deep the water is? ???? ?????????? Sorry, New Zealand, your application for AUKUS is declined.

[@qbi4614]

The front fell off

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

Maybe the reef decided to fight back ?

[@gtestastretta1]

As a New Zealander…I’m totally embarrassed. We grounded, caught fire, and sunk….all by ourselves.

[@annetopham6390]

Great update. Thanks from NZ. Found you fascinating to listen to after the Dali / Baltimore incident as well.

[@crustyolcoot6646]

Thanks for your common sense report and kind words and support for our navy. The investigation report will be released in 2 months so until then our navy will have to listen to a fair bit of bullshit and undoubtedly punch above their weight in more than the few pub brawls this incident will ignite. Cheers.

[@bradbutcher3984]

Don't put a lesbian DEI with only 8 years in the navy.

[@DerAngriff]

so a whitewash, placing blame elsewhere apart from the Captain? Why do you still trust the institutions and politicians? In this day and age.

[@eecarolinee]

I hereby venture the speculation that people are WAY too used to blindly relying on electronic navigation. Failure to do basic visual navigation in restricted waters is probably going to be part of the problem. Former QMOW/navigator watchstander.... USCG.... back in he 1970s. Served on a 210', we calibrated the Loran C system with visual nav... such as three arm protractors and horizontal sextant angles. Super accurate. Watching people stare at screens and do zero visual double-checking is mind-boggling level of trust in a single system when near to shore. Or so it seem to me.

[@CaptRR]

Or the command crew was incompetent.

[@andyb.1026]

Absolutely and Totally agree.. I'm only UK RYA Ymo Com 😮

[@michaelbateman6430]

Way too many smiles from a crew that just lost a Navy ship to a static object. Never change New Zealand.👍

[@petawillingale]

Someone shouted out " who put that bloody reef there"

[@TheSwayzeTrain]

Local Samoan: "You cant park there mate!"

[@FeetalsGizz]

misogyny, of course

[@FeetalsGizz]

Try that again. The Captain "Misogyny!" Of course.

[@mgbrattland]

Outstanding as always. BZ

[@goodkebo]

I work on the ocean for a living. From the details I see in the video. The current and wind should have seemed kept the ship traveling along shore but not on to the rocks. The swell probably did the pushing, especially once the ship was in shallower waters. The swell looks like it is coming from a southerly direction in the video which would nudge the vessel on the reef. Not sure why they couldn't get the anchor(s) out, I could see the engineering crew getting overwhelmed with trying diagnose and get the engine(s) restarted knowing they might only have minutes to work (if they had a power failure). This is a not so large vessel and many of the crew and officers may have had crossover duties. The engineers may have normally helped with the anchors. Anchoring is basic to surviving on a vessel. I don't know what happened there. I feel many modern mariners don't practice anchoring unless it is part of their routine job. A proper budget matters and maintenance is king. A mariner is a mariner, the ocean does not treat men and women differently. We will find out the answers from the official inquiries in time.

[@Inkling777]

So a vessel that constitutes half the tonnage of the entire New Zealand navy is operating near reefs, some of them uncharted, and yet it runs aground. That is hard to explain. -In the days of wooden sailing ships, someone would be at the bow of the ship throwing a line to measure the depth. Today they have depth gauges that work even better. And given the risky circumstances, why wasn't a small boat going ahead of this ship and radioing back the depth? There seems to be an incredible lack of foresight here.

[@NighthawkNZ]

rubbish Aotearoa is 26,000 tonnes, Canturbery 9000 tonnes, and each frigate about 3000 tonnes each

[@andrewtaylor940]

The ships mission was literally charting the reefs. She was equipped with all the best sensors to see and map the reefs. So it's not like she was operating blind.

[@kc10flteng1]

"...half the tonnage of the entire New Zealand navy..." - I am STILL lying on the floor laughing hysterically!

[@olpaint71]

@@andrewtaylor940 But the nature of her duties required operating near reefs and other underwater obstructions. So while she was well equipped to avoid the hazards, but probability of occurrence is a function of both proximity and time. It will be interesting to see what the investigation eventually concludes.

[@andrewtaylor940]

@@olpaint71 True to a point. But she just lost a Capital Ship of an ocean going navy, specifically equipped for and currently actively tasked with mapping those reefs. In what would appear to be calm clear weather conditions and a fairly minor sea state. Grounding the ship badly enough to not simply entrap the ship, but resulting in an all hands evacuation, uncontrollable fires, listing leading to the ships rollover and complete loss. The only comparable incident I can think of is the 2018 loss of the Norwegian Navy frigate HNoMS Helge Ingstad in a collision with an oil tanker. If you ever find the final reports on that one the incident is horrifying in its root cause. Which was elevating diversity over actual merit or fitness for duty. In that case the entire bridge crew was an “all female, first of its kind” sort of deal. As the Norwegian Navy strove for gender parity in a job category that does not see a lot of female applicants. So any such applicants were taken and promoted to meet quotas, regardless of ability. Until they got them all on the same bridge… and a decision needed to be made. Here is the situation they faced. They were on an obvious collision course with the tanker. No question if they stayed on their plotted course they would collide. And the tanker could not avoid them. Their only option for turning in time would take them into an area of water that the rules said they should not go. Because depending on tides there was a risk of grounding. So their choices were “absolute 100% certainty of collision with another heavier vessel!” Or “possibility of grounding the ship”. Want to guess which one they went with? Because grounding the ship would look bad on their records. They apparently argued about this until they hit the tanker. Resulting in the sinking of 20% of the Norwegian Navy. Yeah, we need to wait on the final reports on this one. But it’s pretty clear at a glance that there were some staggering levels of gross incompetence of leadership with this one. Because these aren’t 18th Century sailing vessels. And any modern military (that is not Russian) should be capable of sufficient damage control to avoid the loss of the ship. Short of hitting an undiscovered WW2 Sea Mine, there really isn’t any possibility here that doesn’t scream total incompetence.

[@olliefoxx7165]

I read that the captain had 8 years of experience in the navy. Before that she wanted to be a teacher. Her vast experience in the navy and commanding ships surely helped locate the reef. Thankfully, it was only a $150 million dollar loss.

[@nzgunnie]

She had previously served 19 years in the RN.

[@olliefoxx7165]

@nzgunnie Served 19 years doing WHAT? She clearly isn't competent. In America, the govt has been putting clearly incompetent people into important positions based solely upon what boxes they check. The identity of the person is more important than the merit or capability. We see firsthand the results of this nonsense. I know it when I see it.

[@revpgesqredux]

Sounds like the steps taken once trouble was encountered were about as bad as they can get. Captain SpongeBarb better get busy buffing out those scratches.

[@kevinansley7353]

No sonar, no radar, no watch, what in hell happened to naval dicipline and where was damage control?

[@lightforce3642]

Ship should never have been in that venerable position ,what a disaster ,i''m from NZ ...

[@Mike-x9h5f]

what position is that being capped by a Dei higher

[@olliefoxx7165]

​@@Mike-x9h5fVice president of the US running for president

[@slimjim1125]

*vulnerable. Venerable is a much different meaning.

[@fraserwright9482]

But the Picton ferry love tapping the wharf yesterday was just a "Front Fell off " moment huh

[@9vHeart]

Some notes on this: 1) most military vessels don't have their AIS turned on but due to it's dual purpose may run it especially when doing things like this, 2) OSVs of US manufacture usually have limited watertight partitioning and no or limited double hull so a a puncture below the waterline can quickly get out of hand, 3) I'm not familiar with Samoa but I have worked very close to shore in other Pacific Island groups and the charts may be of poor quality. I can think of places I've worked who were last seriously charted in the 30s and the only real changes have been updating the art to modern styles and adding a WGS grid (which may or may not be accurate), 4) Along with 3 there is also the tendency when using ECDIS to be over reliant on the system (its modern and therefore good) but the charts are still the same 80 yr old garbage in a shiny new suit. There is also the problem of the ECDIS assisted grounding (real term that. Tells you something huh?) where poorly set warnings and color scheme ESPECIALLY in the night and dusk palettes. Also ECDIS throws so many false alarms (for reason I don't have time or patience for here) that it's entirely possible that there were warnings that went unheeded. If I were an investigator the first thing I'd be looking at are the navigational procedures and regulations WRT to the use and operation of the ECDIS system.

[@clydecessna737]

Incompetence for a force that is exiting its business.

[@HasanProd]

what if it's an insurance scam

[@russc788]

@@HasanProdIts only partially insured.

[@Lucas-pe6fg]

Diversity hires lead to incompetence. A lesbian, school teacher became a navy captain and the rest is history.

[@Seaworthyy]

The uninsured, $100mn ship, under command of New Zealand’s first lesbian commander, was surveying the seabed to ensure ships didn’t run aground

[@nicksmile5811]

scissor me timbers

[@jamesbrown-pz4id]

D.E.I commission I Suspect.

[@tomtj460]

@@nicksmile5811 not bad!

[@josephdans7120]

Lol

[@EscapeePrisoner]

Survey Complete. Thank you for your participation.

[@Balnk1326]

“This ship is never going into port under my watch”

[@GeezerGear]

As usual excellent reporting. Tough situation for that vessel. We often overlook the need for surveying our oceans and waterways.

[@desydukuk291]

So funny, so ironic.

[@alastairjhunter3666]

Not a mile offshore at night. Gross incompetence

[@silverdale3207]

@@alastairjhunter3666 Looks like they grounded around 7pm so I'm assuming it would have still been daylight.

[@Strickey25]

The New Zealand Navy had a dedicated survey ship from 1949 to 1975, HMNZS Lachlan, she was second hand, she was old, the first NZ navy ship with a flight deck and she carried 3 inshore survey vessels and she did the job unceremoniously and with pride and efficiency, punching above her weight,I know because I served on her in 1968 and 1969.

[@robg9236]

The US navy's way ahead of the New Zealanders. We can lose a ship without it even getting underway.

[@TheYutongCaptain]

Apparently the Chinese can also pull the same trick with their submarine. Must be part of the training.

[@Roger_Gadd]

So you're in effect implying that the Chinese really did steal the plans for their latest nuclear submarine, the one that sunk even before setting sail for the first time, from the Americans. 😁

So can China. They turned a submarine into a submarine boat anchor before it even took its first voyage.

[@TheJustinJ]

Pearl Harbor doesn't count.

[@danielch6662]

​@@TheYutongCaptainon the other hand, there is no better place to sink a ship than in port. Didn't we learn that from Pearl Harbour?

[@FATMAN_tactical]

Did a braille survey

[@andrewthompson5728]

Sailing around, measuring the depth..... and runs aground. Sailor to Commander, "the water is too shallow." DEI Commander, "Fine, but does it identify as deeper?"

[@jjmckay6man1]

🤣

[@pj-vq3by]

And to add insult to injury when media asked "was the ship insured" The response was "third party only".........this country is DOOMED.

[@TheJustinJ]

😂😂 Got liability insurance, can travel.

[@ncox001]

The Government doesn't usually insure its assets

[@merafirewing6591]

That's gonna leave a very nasty sting.

[@wonton8983]

British captain got confused with the Kiwi accent. Officer of the watch said six and she said yes please.

[@nicksmile5811]

Brings a new meaning to... "Loose lips sinks ships"

[@qbi4614]

Only of the Officer of the watch was female!

[@ryancarper595]

Haha you guys... smh!

[@maigepresents5840]

This is a 20% joke... as in only 20% of people will ever get it...