The Russian Navy Sucks Part 5 - Whiskey on the Rocks

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[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

Scruffy's Channel: www.youtube.com/@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone

[@3_character_minimum]

What was the video from scruffy?

[@mycatsapanther9236]

Can i get a whiskey on the rocks

[@diegomadariaga3596]

could anyone please give me the link of the channel that is doing the Russian Air force please.

[@frenstcht]

In the future please link the video and not the channel.

[@L4r5man]

Skruffy deserves a lot more attenntion. His work is great. And this is comming from a Norwegian.

[@tonymeijer8532]

In the 90:s the swedish commander in chief of the military was asked by a very left/communist leaning journalist why all the military exercises featured an invasion from the east, and never the west (implying a us lead invasion). The CiC looked at him for a while, then nodded and said "I guess they could invade from the west, but it would be a rather long and odd route for the Russians to take".

[@mattl3729]

LMAO that's freaking AWESOME.

[@luiszuniga2859]

Wow, I can't find a flaw In his logic

[@thunderspark1536]

​@@luiszuniga2859Especially not now with them joining NATO. I do find it funny though how some day every "western" nation is just a US puppet state, despite both Finland and Sweden both, well, existing, with polls showing they didn't want to join NATO, only changing their minds AFTER Russia invaded Ukraine. Makes ya think, maybe Russia would have more friends if they stopped invading their neighbors.

[@erikelenstrom9685]

To be fair the Swedish west coast ist littered with defences or rather where during the cold war. And there have been many exercises to prepare for a Russian invasion from the west here too.

[@CommissarMitch]

I think Finland have a similar joke: "It is possible the Soviets could come via Sweden."

[@MBkufel]

The best thing about the Swedish defense doctrine is the notion that "All orders to capitulate shall be considered false".

[@michaelkarnerfors9545]

I like the literal translation a bit better: "All messages stating that resistance is ending, are false".

[@bruhism173]

I need the written into the American Constitution.

[@wille9127]

Yep. It says sweden never surrenders. All who claim that sweden shall give up and cease resisting, even if it comes from the king himself. They are traitors to the nation.

[@USSEnterprise6126]

@@bruhism173 that is the job of the second amendment even if the army surrenders the people will not

[@boarfaceswinejaw4516]

@@USSEnterprise6126 the second amendment is less about protecting "america" and moreso about people protecting their own plots of land. were the US to be invaded it would look a lot more like afghanistan and less like Ukraine.

[@gusramos3620]

Imagine being a russian submarine sailor looking through a pair of binoculars and seeing swedes changing their berets to helmets...

[@Techno_Idioto]

Pants? Shat. Confidence? Shattered. Moscow? Burning. Sweden? *Resurrecting Carolus Rex.*

[@spartanalex9006]

@@Techno_IdiotoChosen? *By Heaven*

[@Marcos-ms1ij]

​@@spartanalex9006 World? *ENDED*

[@TheSchultinator]

​@@Marcos-ms1ij Hotel? Trivago.

[@MrOddball63]

My brothers C.O. was in that clique of coastal rangers that set up shop onshore. The story goes that he lay there with his scoped AK4 (G3) with the subs commander in the reticle, put the safety on single shot, took a deep breath and slowly let it out while exclaiming that "This is the closest Sweden have been to war for 200 years"...

[@NickJohnCoop]

Russia always forgets that just about all of Scandinavia hates them.

[@FifingFossil]

And that Swedes kick Russia's balls 2 times already just by themself (vikings taking over all of Russia and Northern war)

[@benoitbvg2888]

True. Then again I think that applies to all their neighbors.

[@FifingFossil]

@@benoitbvg2888 you give me idea

[@Anonymous-zu7dh]

​@@FifingFossilyou might be thinking about the battle of Narva in which Sweden crushed the Russians, but likewise, every Borodino has a Waterloo, the battle of Poltava in the middle of the Swedish invasion of Russia, when the king hurried south to find better winter quarters resulted in almost complete annihilation of the previously nearly undefeated Swedish army and the Swedish king barely escaping with his life to modern day Moldavia then in the Ottoman empire. After awhile he was let back into Sweden, only to get sniped in the siege of fredrikshald fortress in Norway, and afterwards the death march of the Charoleans on their way home ensured that Sweden wouldn't rise to such a level again.

[@shirley-ie5vj]

B-but Belarus, Slovakia and Hungary are over the moon in love with the horde, aren't they? 🤯

[@chugachuga9242]

This whole thing reminds me of the time Swedish fighters escorted a SR-71 across the Baltic who was coming back from a mission, just to rub it in the Soviet’s face and make sure they don’t try anything.

[@AdurianJ]

As a Swede that incident in recent media has been changed to be a nice NATO friendly story as Sweden moves closer to NATO membership. If you read about it in older books the Swedish fighters only escorted it as a precaution because the plane was in distress and risk of ejection and so it didn't violate Swedish territory. If the Soviets had tried anything The Swedish fighters would not have intervened. A few years earlier Swedish Draken fighters had intercepted air force one with President Ford on board and forced it to change course after the Swedish foreign office hadn't notified the Air Force it had allowed Air Force One to overfly Swedish territory.

[@tobiaslinden8769]

The best part was that the first Viggen pair that escorted the SR-71, was on a training flight and therefore completely unarmed. So they basically placed themselves in front of a bunch Soviet MiGs and went "Come on Ivan, we dare you." The Americans even gave them medals after the event was declassified.

[@chugachuga9242]

@@AdurianJ no matter what the reasoning may have been it’s still a pretty baller move, they didn’t care who it was, super power or not Sweden doesn’t play around.

[@alaeriia01]

I'm more surprised they could keep up with the Blackbird than anything.

[@bluemarlin8138]

@@alaeriia01The Blackbird was having engine problems.

[@quox3987]

It’s so jarring as an American to be told the Cold War was mostly between the US and Russia then find out there are people in this world a fraction the size of us who were willing to say “bet” and fight Russia themselves both historically and in modern times. “World police” my ass do you folks even need our help?

[@mherrj]

No. But they are more than happy to use us as a scapegoat and take the flak.

[@robbiedubbelman3024]

I mean, they don't "need" the US' help... But it would certainly be welcome ☺️. The US' military has such a threatening presence to anyone trying to cross it that all their enemies turn into those videos of dogs barking behind fences until the door opens. Having the US on your side basically ensures no war will have to be fought because everyone knows they will lose if they do cross you. And no war is always better than any defensive war. The US has a military doctrine of being able to fight two military Superpowers at the same time. And this is during peacetime! As we've seen during this war, Ukraine and Russia have both ramped up their military capabilities incredibly. A modern USA in war economy mode is something no country wants to fight. It would make D-Day look like a small scale excersise.

[@theonlytnargmatt]

Well speaking as one of those folks, we can manage on our own (it is after all, Russia, the lonely toons villain of countries) but having the end game boss of defence budgets at our backs helps because they know they would not only have to beat us, but they would have to speed run it before the sun dropping cowboys arrived. Plus being on the same side means we get to join in on the freedom memes, and that's always fun.

[@BS-vm5bt]

Though we had nuclear weapons program. I think we had a very similar mindset to what france had during the cold war. Though we caved to america for some stupid reason instead of acting like france and build our damn nukes.

[@williampanagopoulos656]

I mean you are willing to say 'bet' but as was noted.. Sweden's fight would be attrition.. and holding, and hoping Russia gives up before you run out of stuff They probably will but that's a GRIM hope and not ideal to actually carry out Besides, you also arnt equipped to help other areas of the world either.

[@beafucku1528]

My grandfather were one of the officers who boarded the U-boat and did the search, all of this was kept very secret for a long time but now he loves telling me about the look on the captains face basically thru the whole ordeal “he looked like he had seen a ghost and shit himself all at once” For more history of the Swedish coast artillery there’s a book written by my grandfather and his fellow servicemen, it’s only in Swedish but it’s called ”U137 vi som höll gränsen” or “U137 we that held the border” (also my grandfather says hi and is looking forward to more history on Swedish military history (read naval) + go easy on our ship that can’t sail and if given the chance go look at it in Stockholm)

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

Thank you. And don't worry I adore the Vasa. I have been building her in 1/150 scale for 2 years now

[@Nomadith]

The little Vasa that could (be the most expensive ship of it's time only to sink off the coast)

[@Wild_Danimal]

Go grandpa!

[@timtheskeptic1147]

I can only imagine the horror of building a model Vasa. It took me almost one full year to build the IJN Mogami kit. (I will never build an aircraft carrier again)

[@jameswolff5200]

This is so neat that you (and your awesome grandfather) are posting here. Please tell him hello and thank you from a fella in the suburbs of Chicago :) And a hearty, Illinois wuddup to you, as well :)

[@TBH-nu2so]

Just the havoc Sweden, Poland, and Finland alone could wreak on Russia is terrifying.

[@Jeremy-13312]

1939

[@TBH-nu2so]

@@Jeremy-13312 What does that have to do with anything?

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

@@TBH-nu2so He's talking about the soviet invasion of Poland in 1939. Which, yes, Poland didn't fair well back then, but even then the USSR wasn't doing good-

[@TBH-nu2so]

@@ukaszwalczak1154 Exactly. And I can’t believe I have to say this, but now, is not 74, going on 75 years ago. Some things have changed.

[@jonie1852]

​@@TBH-nu2soyes, now Russia cannot even properly invade a country

[@WellImNuts]

I'm a relative to the man who first spotted U-137 (S-363). His name was Karl Bertil Sturkman. After discovering the vessel in the early morning after a fishing trip he promptly drove his little boat to a friend of his, Ingvar Svensson, who then repeatedly called the naval base. They did not believe him at first, thinking that he was drunk, but after a while they relented and sent the mentioned officer to investigate. Thank you two for covering this topic! It is almost completely unknown these days, even amongst cold war history buffs.

[@fogrepairshipakashi5834]

To be fair, I can't blame the naval base for being skeptical, most people never realize how dumb Russia actually is.

[@DarkButz]

Now I understand why the Soviet Union kept silencing any of their mistakes. Because if they didn't the daily news would have to be called "How hard we fucked up today?"

[@thunderspark1536]

Funny thing is that's how issues usually get solved quickly in nations with a free press, someone on the media makes a fuss and the small, relatively unimportant stuff gets handled before it gets to the Chernobyl phase. Russia/the Soviets on the other hand...well, we saw what happened in the 90s.

[@williampanagopoulos656]

​@@thunderspark1536 which really shows how wierdly far they fell from ideals given the whole thing was based around the ordinaries voting and voicing and having a stake in the process to ensure that one person wasn't wholly and unequally in charge .. ..... That and the whole... "If you ignore your problems they get worse"

[@thunderspark1536]

@@williampanagopoulos656 Indeed. Is what it is though, nothing we can do about it now. Personally I think sometime in the future either Russia will collapse due to ethnic infighting, but that's just me.

[@williampanagopoulos656]

@@thunderspark1536 Russia has stayed surprisingly stable for many centuries but all things must pass.. I suspect western Russia will stay mostly together Maybe we glcan have a modern Novgorod republic like the medieval period : p

[@stevemc01]

@@thunderspark1536 *coughs in Tupolev jet disasters* *chokes in Tupolev jet crash that incapacitated almost all of the Pacific Navy’s command*

[@RaedanWulfe]

Aah, the Russian navy - truly the gift that keeps giving.

[@Psycorde]

Ship that keeps sinking

[@based9527]

​@@Psycorde i feel that the russian navy is like the byzantine history in multiple boats.

[@gdiwolverinemale4th]

Not as much as the US and the British navies that cost their governments an arm and a leg

[@arandomkobold8403]

​@@gdiwolverinemale4th at least the Brits and the Americans navy work

[@teabagtowers3823]

​​​​@@gdiwolverinemale4th At least us Brits can produce a functioning fucking aircraft carrier that doesn't break down or catch fire every 10 minutes..... That and our nuclear submarines don't blow themselves up like Kursk. Keep coping though Vlad bot.

[@fogrepairshipakashi5834]

Oh, we are talking about Russia's constant humiliation by Sweden at sea now? Beautiful.

[@jdreyes3745]

Welcome to Sweden - Gay since 1944.

[@Hungary_0987]

Tf@@jdreyes3745

[@MicrosoftOutlook-dv5oz]

Oh yes baby

[@SlosII]

@@jdreyes3745 that's right, russia got their pants pulled down by guys! why russia? why? why do you have to embarrass yourself o the world stage every single decade!?

[@stickiedmin6508]

​@@jdreyes3745 "Gay since 1944?"

[@itz_ex0_279]

Russia: “Whoever’s playing Sabaton, QUIET. DOWN!”

[@Calimbandil87]

People always end up talking about Narva and Poltava in the Swedish-Russian wars. But the last big sea battle we had was in 1790 at Svensksund 6 ships and a few hundred men lost compared to the Russians losing somewhere between 50-80 ships and over 10 000 men killed or captured. The Russian Navy really sucks.

[@melkor3496]

I linked that battle in the replies of my first comment. It’s such a disastrous loss for the Russian navy lmao.

[@connormclernon26]

@@melkor3496I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if you’re making videos on naval incompetence, the Russian/Soviet/Russian Navy is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@krozareq]

@@connormclernon26 And when you thought you've seen it all, there's a whole other rabbit hole of Soviet/Russian aviation incompetence.

[@mattl3729]

Russian EVERYTHING really sucks. If anyone's interested in air 'issues', Paper Skies is a great channel that goes into Soviet aviation's hillarious history.

[@connormclernon26]

@@mattl3729 I’d go with tragicomic

[@Don113]

The Swedes understand that the secret to a good bluff is not to bluff.

[@felixsomething1495]

"in the great starring contest between the union of soviet socialist republics and little old sweden, the USSR blinked" Ive never heard my country sound more badass, ever!. Amazing video!

[@looinrims]

The Russian navy: a branch the Russian government never remembers it has, never remembers why it has it, never remembers the purpose of it, but for some reason feels they must keep it

[@johanmolin3213]

To make matters worse for the Soviets, the Swedes banned every encrypted conversation between the submarine and the Soviet authorities. Swedish Air Force CEW planes (actually old A32 Lansens, but with state of the art ECW equipment started to jam the traffic every time the Russians tried to communicate in any other way than the Swedes officially allowed. Needless to say, the Swedish armed forces has an Interpreter school where there is a very strong emphasis on teaching a foreign language to a professional level. Can you ever guess what language they put the emphasis on?

[@user-zb9lv3gh8s]

Greek?

[@johanmolin3213]

@@user-zb9lv3gh8s Yes of course. We are terrible aware of the Greek plans to attack Sweden ...

[@Humbulla93]

Croatian of course the best language there is

[@notusneo]

Classical Latin?

[@josephking6515]

Whatever language is was I bet they were _rushin_ to learn it. 🤦‍♂️

[@grzegorzskowyra9964]

As a Pole i can say that's we don't blush at Sweden anti-rus plans. We grin 😊

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

Weird, I just hear doom music after reading your comment

[@sugandesenuds6663]

As your western neighbor, are you willing to help us take back Königsberg?

[@polackwizerd]

​@@sugandesenuds6663just dont fuck us over.... Again...

[@italianspaghett4359]

@@sugandesenuds6663 it's Królewiec and mom said it's our turn to have it

[@Calamity4]

@@italianspaghett4359lol. Love it 😂

[@lleexxaa99]

Great video! Three years later we have another incident called the Almö 1984 incident. Unkown divers were spotted on an island close to the karlskrona naval base, we sent a company or soldiers there and they spotted divers crawling on the ice using NVGs and also opened fire of them. They also periodically dropped grenades into the water from bridges to stop divers from going past. Altough the divers never got caught it was almost certainly soviet spetsnaz or similar doing surveillance on the naval base.

[@Whatshisname346]

I know we in Finland love to poke fun at our neighbours to the west but when called upon they generally tend to come equipped with the requisite enormous brass dangly bits.

[@tdb7992]

I never thought I'd ever see a Finn say "enormous brass dangly bits". Gee they really are teaching you guys to speak English like us native speakers! :D

[@mivapusa]

USA: "Better dead than red" Sweden: "Better Red _be_ dead "

[@esbendit]

It is understandable that the soviets claimed that they had hit a danish island. It happens pretty regularly, though usually it is civilian vessels, where someon has forgotten to lock the captains vodka cubboard.

[@mattl3729]

That's a strange claim in a way- since Denmark was a NATO country at the time. But then Russia. No need to say more.

[@novat9731]

@@mattl3729Yes yes, Russian fishing vessels on occasion enter waters they are not supposed to and Denmark frowns a little but doesn't go too hard on the fishermen. Nuclear armed submarine getting stuck on an island is exact same situation, Denmark will just frown a little and forget the whole incident. - Some guy at the Kremlin probably It is genuinely fascinating to look at Communist regimes being put on the spot. If really put on the spot, you may catch a lie from a mid level official before the top level officials have had a chance to come in and craft the 'official lie'. Which is different from the initial lie.

[@mattl3729]

@@novat9731 Yeah, after their invasion of Ukraine, I've learned way more than I ever wanted to about Russia and their weird ways. They've done that thing with the low level guy lie, and the bigger guy telling a different lie later several times. I always wonder if the lower guy gets his ass smacked for it afterwards LOL

[@Elenrai]

My father and I lived on that Island they keep hitting. After the second time we pretty much didn´t even GUESS if alcohol and a Russian was involved. Its fact. Every. Time. Frankly they are gonna shift that island further West if they keep doing it :I

[@HoppouChan]

To be fair, it is a reasonable mistake to make. There could have been a 29th Dano-Swedish war

[@meglukes]

So the Soviets tried to go for “Don’t shoot, I’m retarded!” defense

[@ProfessorxVile]

It's like in the Simpsons where Homer hijacks a submarine, gets hunted by a bunch of different navies, and when he finally resurfaces and sees he's surrounded, simply says "It's my first day!" in multiple languages.

[@hullutsuhna]

"Whiskey On The Rocks", I laughed WAY harder at that than I had any right to

[@paulleckner9148]

Me too!

[@javaks]

Did you know Sweden painted barcodes on their battleships? So they can Scandinavian.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

That's a good dad joke.

[@shitbraker]

🤣

[@stickiedmin6508]

Oh, well played! 👏

[@Zman44444]

Fuck yes. This… this is 🤌🏻

[@Unknown1355]

Norway you said that!

[@dmurphy1578]

Had a neighbor who was a submariner. He made fun of the Russian subs to no end. Said they were loud as heck and the guy glowed when they got out.

[@NefariousKoel]

There's some old Navy joke I heard, long ago, regarding how to figure out who's a Russian/Soviet submarine crewman in a crowd of people; by the glow. Can't recall how it went, though.

[@u2beuser714]

Its ironic since many analysts even U.S ones admit that Russian ships like their borei class is very silent actually

[@NefariousKoel]

@@u2beuser714 Check out the Konigsberg-Toshiba scandal. Also John Anthony Walker spy. They explain how the Soviets improved their sub quieting late in the Cold War. Until they got it from the West, specifically US, their submarines were very loud. Part of the reason Soviet subs carried some nuclear-tipped torpedoes as SOP at the time; for shooting back blindly.

[@dmurphy1578]

@@u2beuser714 I’d imagine a lot of it was American navy boasting but he was captain American to me as a kid.

[@MrTangolizard]

@@u2beuser714the borei class subs are very noisy

[@Anonymous-zu7dh]

Hello, another Swede here. During cold war exercises the Swedish military used jargain such as "super power red" and "super power blue". You can guess which predominantly featured as the enemy. On another note I'm kinda disappointed you didn't at least mention our nuclear weapons program which was meant to glass the baltic not in case we got nuked ourselves not even an actual invasion, in case we were threatened by invasion.

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

I have more Swedish ideas up my sleeve

[@melkor3496]

@@HistoryofEverythingChannel ;) I’m intrigued. May I give you another one which is if you ever make a vid on Sweden again I suggest going into wars we had with Russia during the 15-18 centuries where there is a lot of wars and interesting battles to bring up with Russia. Also look up Carl von DÖBELN the giga Chad.

[@marcusalm7350]

Oh right, the plans that made the US go "you're not in NATO, but how about you put down the uranium and I'll just protect you with my nukes instead?" 😅

[@Anonymous-zu7dh]

@@marcusalm7350 exactly why I was disappointed in it not getting mentioned. "Med Plutonium tvingar vi Dansken på knä" - basically an achievement in hoi4. It's actual name is "Med Plutonium...." but I like that other part too much, "With Plutonium we'll force the Dane to their knees". Sweden has had many enemies through the years, none as persistant as Denmark/Norway and Russia. We've more wars with Denmark than France and the UK between them. But we were fighting with Novgorod in the 1200s over who got to "christianise" Finland.

[@Cythil]

@@Anonymous-zu7dh Though to be fair. During the 19th century, there was a big shift towards more of a brotherhood with Denmark than a rivalry. Which left Russia as the only major antagonist. Though there was also a point where Sweden and Russia could have got alone well. With small chance of even getting back the lost Finnish territory though potential royal marriage. But that is just a lot of what ifs in the end. The improved relationship with Denmark after all happened.

[@NordicUlfr]

We also were so kind to allow the Captain of the sub to call his superior on radio but the moment they started speaking funny like codes cryptic lines or more then two numbers we jammed that sub so hard that the soviets were begging us to stop.

[@tamer1773]

i recall this incident. The Russians looked like knuckleheads and the Swedes came off as patient and gentlemanly. Until the Russians tried to get really stupid and the gloves came off. Suddenly it was "No more Mr Nice Guy" and the Russians knew the Swedes were serious and that all of Scandinavia and NATO would back Sweden.

[@defenstrator4660]

I was in Sweden when that happened. My grandfather came from there so we were visiting cousins in the old country. As Canadians we thought it was kind of funny how badly the Russians had screwed up. But there were certainly a lot of newspapers with big unintelligible headlines and hat made it clear the Swedes were pissed.

[@CommissarMitch]

Finland: "If we get attacked from the west it means the USSR has taken Sweden" (Paraphrased quote forgot from where) Sweden: *Loads shotgun with maliceous intent* "They can try."

[@OwenIsDaBoss]

Whenever I see a new installation of "Russian Navy Sucks", it's an automatic click and like.

[@oxaile4021]

With the levels of Russian/Soviet competence seen so far i'm sure this series will go on for a long time.

[@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone]

Well, this was a bit unexpected... Thanks for the shoutout! Very humbling. Earned yourself a new subscriber I might add 😅 Loved the comedy of it all!

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

Thank you very much. I watched your video after I'd written mine and loved it!

[@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone]

​@@HistoryofEverythingChannelKeep up the good work! Very funny stuff 😂👍

[@EliteMaster254]

As the meme goes. “Ahhh sh**. Here we go again.”

[@No_Feelings]

You want to talk about the indomitable human spirit, lets just respect the fact that for nearly a century Sweden's minset on warfare wasnt winning, it was dragging you down with them. now THAT is a scary concept to fight.

[@AtholAnderson]

"I might not win, but you sure as fuck are going to lose!"

[@sebastianrubin7476]

My grandfather told me a lot of stories; he was a fighter pilot in Flygvapnet, the Swedish air force. This particular incident, he told me, was the scariest thing he ever experienced - as you pointed out, they were literally half a mile and only minutes away from war, and he would have been part of the second wave iirc. He also told me a lot of absolute bullshit stories, some hilarious, some scary, some I assume he was just messing with me.

[@AdurianJ]

I'm Swedish and this incident the U137 incident as it is known in Sweden is one of the thing I have tried to read everything about it because it's Interesting. This video has some confusion when it comes to the timeline and mixing up events. It also don't fully cover the how incompetent the Russians where. So let's cover that. When commander Andresson the first Swede to board the submarine and ask WTF ! asked to see their claimed position the special "Navigation Expert" they had on board brought up a chart that looked very much like a Swedish Naval chart in quality and resolution. The Navigation Expert got some swear words thrown at him and returned with a generic chart of the southern Baltic. The S363 had managed to ground in the middle of a Swedish minefield with one line of mines behind it and in range to blow the sub up and one row in front of it. The Mines where Swedish K10 controllable mines laid in peacetime and controlled from a bunker ashore. In essence the moment a Swedish soldier manned that bunker the sub could not escape and any assisted breakout would take place on top of hundreds of pounds of rigged Explosives. All decent Harbours in Sweden had fixed minefields in front of them in Peacetime during the cold war but places like Karlskrona Naval base had more of them, it was these fields that the coastal Jaegers where protecting in case of war. their light anti ship missiles might not sink a large warship but they can sink a minesweeper easily. The confusion is about the incident the first evening the Sub had been discovered where an Arte 719 fire control radar at a Swedish 15cm coastal battery bluffed the Russians by switching to wartime frequency hopping as they approached the border intending to cross and an incident one week later when in a full storm two West German grain carriers steamed through the soviet armada at anchor and approached Karlskrona which looked like a breakout attempt. This is when the Swedish prime minister verify to the Supreme commander to "Hold The Border", note "Hold The Border" was the previously agreed posture the supreme commander only called his political master to give him the option of backing down. In the first incident the 15cm coastal battery was undergoing modernisation which sadly meant its old fire control equipment had been removed, and this had been photographed by a West German useful idiot in the peace movement which made the Soviets aware of this. So when the submarine was discovered the battery needed fire control equipment (it could still fire on fixed targets like the sub) an Arte 719 which is a 1970's fire control radar with frequency hopping and laser rangefinder was requisitioned and taken out to the battery along with all the necessary parts to connect it to the battery. However they arrived only about an hour before the Soviet fleet would cross the border so the battery commander ordered them to start transmitting right away giving him updates on their position. When they approached the border despite protests that the radar was not centred or connected to the battery they locked on the largest radar echo using track while scan, assuming the ship had equipment that told the Russians they where targeted. When the squadron didn't stop and with just minutes from the border he ordered the radar into war mode which meant frequency hopping. This was banned in peacetime because the frequencies should not be revealed to the enemy unless in time of war. The battery commander concluded that preventing a war was more important than the frequencies and gave a written order to switch to war mode. After transmitting in War mode the squadron stopped just short of the border save for an ocean tugboat that crossed and was immediately met by a Norrköping Class Swedish torpedo boat and turned away. The Flotilla commander on the flagship stopped and asked Moscow for instructions as he was convinced Sweden would start shooting if he crossed the border. By the time Moscow got back Swedish strength had grown enough to make a forced breakout impossible. Later that night HMS Neptun who had been partaking in the Torpedo tests was now in the middle of the Soviet Flotilla revealing her presence with a green underwater spotlight system she had been fitted with for the torpedo tests. Allowing her to sail past all the soviets ships at anchor like some green underwater sea monster. In the second incident when the radar eccoes of the two freighters crossed the border on the Radar the whole Swedish military went to a war footing with Viggen Strikefighters scrambling from bases in Central Sweden armed with RB04E anti ship missiles. This was the worlds first sea skimming anti ship missile that entered Swedish service in 1961 and a major Reason Sweden deemed larger ships like Destroyers and cruisers unsurvivable in the Baltic sea. The missile was top secret and stored in secret bunkers few officers even knew the location of. It had been the latest E version was a major upgrade for use on the Viggen with the C and D versions being used on the previous A32A Lansen. The RB04 was so advanced Sweden banned it's export as it was 15 years ahead of it's time. This missile did everything the Excoset did over 20 years before the Exocet was used in the Falklands war. It's so advanced it entered service the year before the British Surface to air missile systems Sea Cat and Sea Dart which was completley incapable of shooting down low flying targets in the Falklands let alone Exocet missiles. The Archipelago was also full of Swedish coastal Jaegers and paratroopers quickly retrained to use Type 200 assault boats (the predecessor to the CB90). And squadrons of torpedo boats and patrol boats the later armed with Norwegian Penguin anti ship missiles. So what was the Submarine doing there. The theory is that it had been spying on ASW torpedo tests outside Karlskrona Archipelago by laying on the bottom as the new Torpedo 42 was being tested by Hkp4 ASW helicopters (Sikorsky Sea Knight) and the Submarine HMS Neptun (Näcken class). The Torpedo tests had been delayed so the submarine had run it's batteries down and needed to recharge, so as not to be detected by Swedish radar they proceeded into the archipelago on a secondary missions to scout the Swedish navy's military navigation routes. It was one of those route's markings that they followed on the grounding but because one mark was overgrown it was easily confused with a white stone the sub navigated on the stone and ran aground. This overgrown marking had been reported by a Swedish officer sailing his sailboat 2 weeks earlier, and if you navigate on the white stone you end up on the rocks exactly where the U363 ended up. If anyone has any questions I'll try and answer them.

[@theslavicsailor6654]

Amazing detail. Thank you! Could you tell me more about the useful idiot incident, and how the soviets got the photo?

[@AdurianJ]

@@theslavicsailor6654It was a apparently a Dutch student on a "Peace Trip" that photographed it and got 14 days jail for it. The Incident was written about in the press. It's not certain the Soviets got the picture but they did learn the battery was not operational.

[@tdb7992]

Thanks for sharing this info. Really fascinating stuff!

[@steveosborne2297]

I would mention just one thing the reason that during the Falklands , at least initially , that the Exocet was successful Is that in the targeting of the R.N. the Exocet was still designated as a “friendly” missile not an enemy and therefore was not engaged

[@AdurianJ]

@@steveosborne2297 That sounds very odd, how does that even make sense ? There where only two ships (later 3) capable of shooting down the Exocet with missiles in the task force. Those where the Type 22 Frigates (+1 rebuilt Leander). Those stayed near the carriers most of the time. Satellite comms jamming the radar warning system makes more sense giving little warning for the first hit. Conveyor being huge and lacking countermeasures for the second hit. Glamorgan could not shoot it down with it's weapons and got too little warning to chaff as they where close to shore.

[@CoLdPlAyEr1694]

You know we are in for a treat if our beloved (naval) history channel opens up with another edition of the greatest navy to ever tried to set sail. And he does not disappoint at all.

[@phillipschouw2462]

Danish homeguard’er here. You gotta give it to our swedish neighbors. I feel they are and have been far more competent with their military than Denmark. But we only have our politicians to thank for that. Thank you for some great videos ! ❤️

[@gunengineering1338]

Believe it or not, Russia has a coast guard. Professional and skilled operatives who are tasked with rescuing the crews of crippled civilian and military Russian vessels alike, giving them fine medical treatment and getting them home safe to their loved ones. It's called the US navy. 😁

[@carlalm6100]

My father was an weapons officer on board the swedish fast torpedo boat Västervik (the ship where the interrogation of the soviet CO were held) during this. When the soviet rescue force were sailing towards our border they had no illusions of surviving an encounter, but they would surely make them pay. Hearing him talk about it, ut makes me think of the ride of the Rohirrim. I'm glad it didn't come to that. I like existing.

[@McNubbys]

I am so glad the Swedes are officially on our side😊 🇸🇪

[@aserkill6096]

As a Swedish citizen. THIS was never taught in school, This is the first time i hear sweden played chicken with USSR and won

[@hadenmontgomery5888]

I work with a guy who during the cold war was basically stuck on a submarine and listening for russuans snd translated them. He told me that they could get a short clip of any Soviet ship or boat and if thry had heard them before they tell you exactly which ship or boat it was from how loud they were.

[@TaraWert1]

I've never been more amused by the fact that the Soviets and now the Russian Federation, consider admitting to spying is somehow worse then "We three stooged" ourselves.

[@TotalRookie_LV]

12:53 - Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne! Milk for the Khorn flakes!

[@jorenvanderark3567]

Butter for the PopKhorne

[@connormclernon26]

Harriers for the Cup!

[@starkill97]

Never touch Americas boats, polands border, or Swedens rock.

[@businesscasualsauron]

It's our damn rock, they can get their own!

[@BNRmatt]

Two things: Perhaps Scruffy mentions it, but Sweden's notion of total defense includes frequently repeated instructions that the Swedish government will NEVER surrender and all communications to that effect were to be ignored in wartime. Basically the Swedes were prepared to go down swinging then keep an insurgency going indefinitely. Second, what an absolute Madlad you are for screaming at the Russian embassy in a Santa hat. I need to find out if there's a consulate in my city so I can take my Ukrainian flag with me and do the same.

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

The res was low but I was in a full suit with snow men all over it, and had a beard too

[@mikoto7693]

Not gonna lie here. I now have a sudden and profound new respect for Sweden. And as a Brit, I was looking forward to Sweden joining NATO before, but now I look forward to it even more. The Russians can’t even handle Ukraine. I can only guess how badly things would go if they tried their luck with Sweden.

[@derrickstorm6976]

I take great offense of the claim that Finland was an Axis power, and that we would have threatened Sweden if they had stopped trade with us or Germany. Sweden was the biggest material supporter to Finland during the war, allowed thousands of volunteers to fight in Finland, and has had great relations with Finland even before the Napoleonic wars and especially since the country gaining independence in 1917

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

More so that had Germany pressed for stationing forces in Finland to threaten Sweden, there isn't much Finland could do to stop them, not with the Soviets there

[@Wustenfuchs109]

Saying that Finland was an Axis member is not the same as saying that Finland was fascist or national-socialist. Finland WAS an Axis member, Axis being the military alliance. Finland willingly joined in the war in 1941, allowed for German troops in Finland and its army fought on the same side as those Germans. What would have Germany done if Fins said no? Germany invades Finland?! Hardly. Finland joined in the military alliance because they wanted their land back. As I said, that does not mean that Finland was a fascist nation or anything - but it is a FACT that Finland was an Axis member country. When Finland signed a peace in 1947, it explicitly described Finland as having been "an ally of Hitlerite Germany" during the continuation war. You may not like it, you may take offense, but that's just a historical fact. Finland WAS an Axis member - Allied nations thought of her as such, Finland explicitly admitted to it in the peace treaty. It does not mean that Finland was fascist (actually, it is known to be the only democracy to join Axis), or that it would kill people in concentration camps, or invade Sweden or anything. But yeah, Finland was an Axis member.

[@thomaskettunen3699]

​@@Wustenfuchs109 Maybe Finland ends up on the Axis side if you look at the whole conflict as black/white division. Finland was allied with Germany in the continuation war against the USSR (common enemy). We only ever had a problem with our eastern neighbor which btw invaded us first, and if that makes us part of the "axis powers" then so be it. From our POV we were left without western support during the winter war, and basically the only way to acquire decent weapons was to ally with Germany. The outcome was surely better than ending up under soviet rule

[@StoolieP]

​@thomaskettunen3699 both statements are true, at the same time.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

@@Wustenfuchs109Finland wasn’t an axis member. They were a co belligerent in the war against the Soviet Union

[@nonamesplease6288]

When you confront a bully, sometimes chutzpah, competence, and a take no prisoners attitude are more important than the amount of force you can bring to bear. It also helps if the bully is terrified of Scandinavians.

[@kuronyra1709]

Well, here I am. Watching this from France. Always had respect for Sweden after the magnificient fighters they made and there tanks. But Whisky on the Rocks? You guys are simply awesome.

[@ladykimono401]

"Man kan ikke se den grense under vann!" From a Norwegian comedian who developed a character who was a Soviet submarine commander. Ok I will translate: "One can not see the borders under water!"

[@NonameEthereal]

One story I remember - with the "Sweden got silent" thing as the fleet approached - is a story of when some coastal batteries were ordered to switch to "jump-radar". (Basically, fire control radars switch to a mode that constantly switches frequency chaotically to make them harder to jam.) This is something that was simply not done in training, because it could leak information to Red sigint. It was "in case of war only". So the Russians might have seen that and gone "OHSHI... they're really gonna..." ...but actually, allegedly, they didn't actually have ammunition. They couldn't fire. They just had to give enough of an appearance of being ready to do so, no way for the soviets to know. There's another story of a flight of attack jets being tasked to go for some ships that appeared to have detatched from the soviet fleet and go into swedish waters. They were later found to be some German (I forget if West or East) fishing boats that had decided to basically sail straight past a soviet battle fleet on their way to Sweden, not knowing this caused them to have attack jets vectored on them... :P (For Swedish speakers, I think some of this comes from the P3 Dokumentar episode on the matter.)

[@brenatevi]

The bit at the end where you are yelling at the Russian embassy is legend. I'm glad I found your channel.

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

Thank you. Tbh I was not even remotely sober

[@brenatevi]

@@HistoryofEverythingChannel Look at it as being properly lubricated to do very important work.

[@ssbohio]

@@HistoryofEverythingChannelIf you were drunk, then that was an effort on your part to improve international relations by speaking the Russians' language, alcohol.

[@TheCatzFranzNeko]

Fun info that I don't think was mentioned: During the interview with the captain and his first officer, they said that they "thought they were in Poland." You know, the country that I think has like one or two islands in total in the Baltic. How you mistake the country with the largest amount of islands in the world with Poland that has like two while having purposefully navigated and maneuvered through an archipelago with a shit tonne, no one knows. But they preferred saying that over admitting fault. In response, the Swedish interviewers laughed and one of them replied with "Is this how the Soviet Navy usually navigates?"

[@yuuzyerbrejn9603]

Really enjoying the series. Sweden, Finland and Poland together would be in moscow about a half hour after hostilities were declared, hell they're straining at the leash now!

[@peterwilliams2152]

Or they'd be glassy parking lots. The Swedes and Poles have lost every invasion of Russia in their histories.

[@EMoth76]

@@peterwilliams2152 Polish-Soviet war: ?

[@raptorjesus3894]

Russia: I am taking back my sub, do not resist. Sweden: Fucking try me.

[@davethompson3326]

Swedes have been fighting Russians since long before it was fashionable.

[@Nick-rs5if]

As a Swede and having studied the whole circus of the stranded sub... WHISKEY ON THE ROCKS! I can't! 🤣

[@Joe-uq4by]

Sweden really said fuck around and find out

[@TheArchemman]

The way you describe Sweden's defense plan. Will make Cadia blush.

[@cageybee7221]

this is the equivalent of going to stomp on an ant and it pulling out a fucking lego and hiding under it.

[@Shaun_Jones]

At one point, Sweden actually had a nuclear weapons program to enforce their neutrality. They didn’t quite get as far as building a warhead before the US offered to include Sweden under its nuclear umbrella.

[@wickedcabinboy]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Sweden simply stuck their thumb in the USSR's eye and the USSR whimpered and skulked home.

[@borgtorjonsson3024]

Well, this is one way to look at it. But on the other hand the Soviets took their submarine and went home. The Swedes did not dare to touch it ,even though it had grossly violated Swedish sovereignty. The Svedish navy even helped the Soviets to reclaim their U-boat. This does not look like a great victory to me. Can you imagine how much the Swedes and the Americans wanted to get their hands on a Soviet nuclear sub? But they chickened out and gave it back. Cowards I would say.

[@DunedainAkkarin]

My understanding was that Sweden would be unable to withstand a concerted invasion by the USSR, but they gambled on holding out long enough for NATO to intervene.

[@lleexxaa99]

That's very true, but we also though that it would take quite some time to get NATO reinforcements, so our plan was basically slowing down the USSR in every way possible. At its height we had about 900 000 men in the military.

[@andreasottohansen7338]

That's the true, but that was expecting the Soviets out of Red Dawn, or World in Conflict. Not the actual armed forces of the USSR.

[@geodkyt]

To be fair, that was the plan for the entirety of the Continental NATO members - "Hold on until US reinforcements get here." (Yes, the rather large US forces stationed in Europe? They were very much considered a *speedbump* by the US military - albeit a very tall speedbump like those especially annoying ones in some places.)

[@lleexxaa99]

@@geodkyt yes exactly! But I guess since Sweden wasn't part of NATO and pretended to be neutral, people may be more surprised that was the plan

[@DunedainAkkarin]

@@lleexxaa99 Sweden figured they were too important to the west for the west to allow the USSR to take them as and when. While they weren't able to make use of Article 5 protection, they figured help from NATO would arrive sooner or later.

[@FXGreggan.]

Håll Gränsen !! Yeah, what is more scarier than having radars aimed at you? When they go silent - ie coastal batteries and airforce go to frequency hopping mode... good video, cheers!

[@Bald_Zeus]

Thanks for covering this topic! Always been fascinated by it and I'm surprised of the lack of international coverage of one of the Cold war hotspots

[@Bald_Zeus]

We call it "Whiskey on the rocks incident"

[@RedXlV]

That description of Sweden's defenses perfectly explains why the Gripen would be the perfect aircraft for Ukraine.

[@hugotheimpecileone]

how bad do you have to fuck up for Sweden to be willing to throw hands

[@jaakkovertti]

Sweden actually had signed NSC deal with USA 1960 and was not alone if soviet invade. Near Göteborg there were nuclear submarines waiting bottom of sea ready to launch Polaris A-1 missiles. Deal ended around 1983.

[@nicolasczyz1083]

Soviet Union: *invades Sweden* Sweden: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, MEAT FOR THE MEATBALLS!!!!!!

[@CommissarMitch]

Take him to IKEA!

[@josephking6515]

There were many "strange" incidents around Sweden over the years. Fishing boats would suddenly snag their nets on rocks that weren't on any charts. There was one I remember where the fishing boat manned by a 15 year old and his grandfather was being dragged backwards IIRC at close to 10 knots and it was eventually swamped by the water flowing over the stern. Again if I remember correctly the 15 year old grandson died as a result of their net snagging a ruzzian/Soviet submarine and dragged backwards. His grandson dying/drowning affect the old man who would go hunting ruzzian submarines with his shotgun. (My apologies if I have some of the detail incorrect but it was over 40 years ago and this and other hostile ruzzian actions should *not* ever be forgotten)

[@johnnymclaneutah]

thats a crazy story i've never heard about my dear neighbour sweden. i'm so glad they put their foot down and was ready to actually fight and made the soviets realize they are crossing a line they should not cross and made them put a stop on their nonsense. awesome story.

[@TheEngwall]

Swede here! I'm born in -89, and in -86 my parents had just met, so i was barely a thought back then. But I've read about how damn close to war we were at that time. I'm genuinely surprised that the soviets really backed down there, and at the same time not. They would've been extremely war weary after their fuckup in Afghanistan, and the Chernobyl disaster was just 6 months ago. But I'm glad that the Swedish armed forces really went "fuck around and find out" on the soviets.

[@Milo_1368]

Unlike Russia, Sweden does naval warfare quite well....very *very* well. Frighteningly well in-fact

[@dirreeN]

It's in our blood!

[@CommissarMitch]

As a Swede there are few times I am truly proud of my nation. However, when it happens it is for stuff like this. 10/10

[@CommissarMitch]

I should add I never knew about this and I appload the absolute Chad Swedes.

[@chrislong3938]

Why wouldn't you be proud of your country all the time? Sweden seems like a really nice place and other than Abba, it would be perfect! ;-) It is what one of my brothers-in-law refers to as, "one of those boutique countries" in Northern Europe! I will say that as migrants move into Sweden, you will find that multiculturism is a lot harder to manage than people realize. As you might imagine, I'm American and we've tried and failed to deal with it well for centuries!

[@matso3856]

@@chrislong3938 Politicans sadly behaves as politicans even in Sweden meaning its far & few times one can be proud. Stuff , people , food , nature etc are top notch , but we take it for granted

[@user-tm9qs7jo9j]

During some tense times with Europe during the cold war, McNamara was asked about rising tension with the Soviets during a time in which the US was having to go it alone, without Europe, in so many words. He gave a bit of a bold answer in that he said "the US will do whatever it has to do in the region, with or without European support. As long as the US and Scandinavia work together the situation with the Soviets doesn't change that much. Some people were worried about losing European support, but the Pentagon said on more than one occasion that we need Scandinavia, ee don't need Europe. I also love how the considered them separate. Peak Murica there.

[@McNubbys]

The only natural predator to the Russian Navy is competence lol🤣

[@brucemibus9523]

Sweden has the same outlook as Ukraine. Losing is a possibility, but the Russians will pay dearly for every centimetre!

[@CommissarMitch]

We may lose, but you won't win.

[@aussiemozzie8123]

based

[@paulleckner9148]

¨Then up spake Brave Horatius, the captain at the gate. Death cometh for all men upon this Earth sooner than late. And how can one man die better when facing fearsome odds? For the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his gods.¨

[@NubbyEvo]

Your 24h livestream isn't here to leave a comment, but I just wanted to thank you for the $12K+ AUD you raised to send Christmas presents to Ukrainian children. Take that $3K goal!

[@HistoryofEverythingChannel]

Thank you. I will be cutting up a highlight reel

[@MrOddball63]

I did a year in the navy aboard HMS Visborg a year or so after this incident. When we went on a short visit to Copenhagen there was the obligatory shore leave in our finest gear. That also served as an identifier so when we entered this bar the troubadour on stage immediately started playing "We all live in a Soviet submarine" (yes he used the music from the Beatles)... All in all, good times... :) Also, new Swedish sub (-marine?) :D

[@morten3465]

As a Dane I appreciate you making Christiansø sound Italian 😂 Cristanzio, love it 😂 it's a really grey island for fishermen.

[@valeriejames4675]

Yeah, Russia, (and to some extent, the rest of the world) kinda forgot that Sweden and Finland, being neutral, were prepared to fight the USSR/Russia, each on their own!

[@TheTjompen]

Funny detail: The subs commander tried talk strategy with Moscow over radio, and every time they started use code the swedes fired up the jamming... very pissed russians..

[@0men916]

Justfor the record ..... Sweden inluding easter sweden (= finland today) had 32 wars with russia throughout history. Only twice on Swedish soil as of today . The rest was on russian or and some on todays finnish soil or som in the baltc sea. Despite Sweden/Finsland always was significant out numbered. Sweden won surprisingly often. And Finland, as only finland without sweden, had 2 more wars with russia

[@damienruzco]

Never heard of that put a huge grin on my face, mad respect Swedes

[@nomar5spaulding]

When you said "submarine on the rocks" close to Sweden I instantly thought, "Komsomolets?" Nope... apparently this isn't the only time Russia has ran a submarine into some Swedish Meatballs.

[@gormzola]

Last year i was on vacation in sweden and went to a swedish jet fighter museum. It was a confusing sight at first, because all we noticed was two disassembled c130s and a saab 105 sitting there. But when we walked further we realised the whole thing was set up inside an old underground hangar. The whole place had a lot of old viggens, and some drakens and a tunnan too. Really cool imo

[@LordMondegrene]

Blue Jay's video about the Russian Baltic fleet is a classic comedic history of breathtaking naval incompetence. I laughed until I cried.

[@FPoP1911]

Also hey everybody place bets here, will Admiral Makarov survive and stay above water until the next episode 6 comes out?

[@Kakarot64.]

That's a great name for a future Russian Submarine.

[@erikgranqvist3680]

The order "hold the border" came 2 times. It was basically the first thing the prime minister (or was it minister of defence? Was a kid then, and it's 40-ish years ago) said when he got the first news about the sub. It had cooled down a tiny bit when Moscow came around to do something, wish is probably the only reason there was no war.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

This story needs to be told a million times over.

[@katleigh4513]

Your sound quality has improved immensely over the series, the roasts are always 🤌

[@Rambam1776]

I spent 4 years in the United States navy submarine service. You have no idea how happy this series makes me.

[@tdb7992]

Mate, do you know the story of Liliana Gasinskaya? She was a beautiful young Russian spy, who defected to Australia by jumping out the porthole of a Soviet ship in Sydney Harbour wearing nothing but a red bikini. Images of this were on all the front pages across the nation. She later went onto be the first centrefold in the Australian version of Penthouse. Maybe you could do a video on all the Soviet & Russian spies who have defected?

[@CTAJIEBAP]

Ukrainian not russian. And not spy, just a kid, who took an opportunity to gtfo.

[@alexhousakos]

Hold on, if they claimed they were grounded in Denmark wouldn’t that make it worse for them? They claimed they violated NATO waters; Article 5! Honestly the Sov. government was completely stupid.

[@Echo2-2]

I didn't know about this incident until today, but I now have a much higher respect for Sweden. Also, they have a really cool camo pattern