The sad story of JIN who blamed himself after his Debut: Reaction by DJ/Producer Frankie Biggz

[@opaquea2448]

Jin really gives us strength, hes such a pure soul and wonderful talent...

[@ericweinman9447]

I had worried whether Jin's personality would change after serving a year and one half in the military. It makes me happy that Jin seems largely the same. Perhaps weathering the issues discussed in this documentary gave him a strength which left his very appealing personality in place.

[@emarsh55]

I can't stand seeing Jin upset..but in the long run, it's rare

[@JoSedunary]

It was antis and other fandoms who were giving him grief... they were actually more savage with Hobi.... fortunately with the support of Army, the seven got through it - even today they still face hatred .... but we're still there as always... we have their backs... and they have ours. On the desire to work with BTS at some point, do you know of a producer named Sleep Deez ? He has worked with BTS - he has a YT channel and reviews/breaks down their music... nothing stopping you getting into contact Frankie... He wrote and produced My Time for JK/BTS... and won a BB award for it....

[@ЕленаФайзулина-р6щ]

самые большие антис Джина - АРМИ, которые укрепляют о нем стереотипы. Это работа компании. Найдите "плохие" пение и танец Джина.

[@frankiebiggz]

Yes! I've been told about this cat before, I didn't get to watch his videos yet! But I will!! I feel like I'm such a baby reactor they gonna be like "who is this dude?" lol...

[@JoSedunary]

@@frankiebiggz No, Sleep is all about the music and producing Frankie... I feel you two would have a lot in common even away from YT...

[@samaygutierrezgutierrez9073]

Jin es una inspiración para jóvenes y no tan jóvenes. Su motto es ser feliz y hacer feliz a los que le rodean, dedica cada segundo a Army, ya sea con Run Jin, programas de entretenimiento, diferentes versiones de MV, abrazando a 1000 armys, uno a uno para darles las gracias por el apoyo, invitando a 50 armys a un tiovivo y dar 2 vueltas con cada una de ellas mientras le dedica un disco para que tengan un recuerdo imborrable, eventos de Hi Five, y más y más nunca entenderé la gente que le critica porque no puede haber nadie más noble, Jin es una persona buena y todo eso de WWH, etc... lo hace para romper el hielo y sacarnos una sonrisa. Gracias Jin por tanto. Gracias por todas las reacciones, si alguien las merece ese es jin 🙏🙌

[@RUNXARMY]

Thank you for empathizing with Jin. I also have a lot of empathy for him. And he's a role model in my life. I have a foreground because he has a lot to learn. Have a nice day.

[@frankiebiggz]

You too!

[@angelkbear5472]

Fire is also an important turning point for Jin because he related to the lyrics “Live the way you want,” “Stop trying so hard,” and “It’s okay to lose.” Of course, he always tries hard, but those words gave him permission to not be so hard on himself. Also, early in their career, Jin was given a “cold and handsome” persona by the company, so he didn’t feel free to show his goofy side until later on. That post Fire freedom allowed him to create his WWH, throwing kisses fun image that we enjoy so much. 💜

[@anitaherbert1037]

We recognise you. Because that's what we found. The more BTS we watched the happier we got. I have extremely chronic health problems and pain. BTS is the ONLY reason I am no longer on antidepressants..

[@frankiebiggz]

That is amazing!! Good for you!!

[@AypL7]

frankie I'm grateful you found BTS. Thank you for loving our seven boys, it means a lot💜

[@frankiebiggz]

It means a lot to me too! 💜

[@wondersultan8079]

TONIGHT is a beautiful song but it makes me tear up every time i listen to it.. his voice always touches my heart

[@eileencullinan2936]

Bravo! Jin is just one of 7 reasons why I have an emotional attachment to BTS. He is a lovely human being. Excellent video first time seeing it. Good reaction. Hi Irene. See you soon.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@MuddaFuffa]

You aren't late, you got here just when you were supposed to get here. I'm sure you've heard, "BTS finds you when you need them.", and it's true. Seeing & feeling the happiness in that discovery for anyone they find brings joy to my heart. Seeing the impact they've had on you makes me happy for you. I'm sending you some of my invisible hugs for your pockets. Whenever you start to feel bad, take a few out and you will feel the love of Army. We got you, Irene and your babies. This is what BTS and Army share with each other & it's unconditional. 💜💜💜

[@frankiebiggz]

Thank you so so much for this message, you brought tears to our eyes. These boys are magic, I say this all the time and you're absolutely right, I feel like they found me at the right time. For that I will always be grateful, I love them and I love the ARMY. Borahae 💜

[@MuddaFuffa]

@@frankiebiggz 💜💜💜

[@Люля-я2я]

Я многому научилась у Джина. Люблю его голос когда грустно он меня исцеляет . 💋

[@LotusBloom0309]

I’m a much more positive person since I found BTS and ARMY. I’m so happy that you are feeling the same way.

[@frankiebiggz]

Thank you, same for you 💜

[@cynthiaperez2232]

Thank you for sharing your struggles with us. They say that we discover BTS when we most need them and I can agree that they brought me through many hard times. Even now, I want to leave the US but don't want to miss their comeback. They have become my rock. Borahae.

[@frankiebiggz]

💜🫰

[@imajinallthepurple]

Tupac...So Many Tears....got it. 👍 I'll definitely look it up. Tbh, lyrics didn't really mean that much to me when I was younger except for a very select few songs, but BTS has completely changed how I relate to songs, both musically and lyrically. It was BTS lyrics that stopped my own plans of "un-aliving" (Epiphany), and it's BTS lyrics that keep inspiring me to movie forward in life. The power of music is amazing - BTS opened my eyes to that four years ago and not only am I still here because of that but the community I've found within ARMY has also restored quite a bit of my tattered faith in humanity. Despite all the negativity so prominently displayed in the media there are truly good people out there, not least these seven honest, open, caring, sharing, and talented young men who give hope wherever they go. Not least Jin whose uniquely sharp voice I'm able to use for sound therapy instead of about half of my former pain medication. I have a lot to be thankful to them and not least Jin for. 💜

[@frankiebiggz]

Good for you!! 💜💜

[@신공-o1o]

jin💜

[@mimi_drama_time]

Thank u so much for the deeper dive. Jin gives us strength and courage for hardwork no matter what. 35:20 I get your point and I also thought that even if it's a sad song it's being listened to , that means it's needed for other people's emotions and situations . Sometimes sad songs are also needed for people to get out of their own trauma .

[@ericaelizalde1544]

Gracias gracias gracias Jin jin jin🌎🤗💜🇦🇷

[@MsSherri13]

Army supports Jin it's Anti fans who say things about the group or the members. Army is always there for all of them and would never say anything bad about any of them. Jin is so talented, it's amazing to me that he had no musical interests before joining the group but I believe he always had it in him and being in BTS just brought it out.I admire him so much.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@djinnsbetpools]

Thank you for reacting to this. You've been working hard this season! I think baby army find this video a lot when getting to know Jin, so this really comes heavily requested. This video kind of dramatizes Jin's struggles a little. 😅 I think another alternative to this are older videos, Kim Seokjin: A Documentary; or Jin's Influence and love for BTS. They show how much Jin contributed to the group's morale even at the start with the strong mindset he's got through the members' own words. Baby army tend to feel like he's been undervalued because of old fandom narratives-in truth, even the members say Jin's progress as a performer and artist has always been the most visible and consistent. And just like you said, Jin's got a strong mentality. He comes through pretty fast and even influenced the members, even RM, with his tendency to combat his challenges with hard work. ❤ Anyway, thank you so much! This was a beautiful reaction! I shed a tear with you. I hope you're having an amazing holiday season! Edit: I think you've got one of the strongest mentalities, too, Frankie. You've mentioned that he's an inspiration, and he's younger. I'm pretty sure you've been doing the same over the years upto now. Even in this platform, a lot of us are listening to you. Thank you!

[@frankiebiggz]

Thank you for your message, no one has ever complimented my mentality before, so this makes me feel so good. You're awesome! Glad you're enjoying my reactions, we do work hard but it doesn't feel like work!! 💜

[@aliciaenriquezk]

Missing the rise of bangtan this weekend! 💜💜🇲🇽🇲🇽💜💜

[@frankiebiggz]

I know! Back this weekend w episode 12! 💜

[@aliciaenriquezk]

So watching bts videos makes you happy! Me too! Jin always makes me happy and makes laugh every time! 💜💜💜🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽💜💜💜

[@fierte]

I see a lot of bloodletting in the comments here so let me post some clarifications. 1. Jin family wealth - Jin’s father was appointed CEO to a SME that supplied parts to Samsung. They were upper middle class and possibly borderline rich but it happened later in Jin’s life. He was not rich from young. 2. Jin on Stay - Jin wrote lyrics along with Joon for the song. That was his participation on it. 3. The arguments around mistreatment. This is a bit complex to address. It very much depends on how you perceive it too. Jin’s line distribution - Jin had a much more ballad-y voice in the beginning because the vocal trainer they hired was ballad leaning. The other members (Tae and JK) had an interest in singing so even if the training was ballad adjacent, they leaned into their interest areas of pop r&b (JK) and jazz neo-soul (Tae). Since Jin had to train out of acting vocalisation to singing, he stuck to his training. This definitely impacted the ability to use him because the early albums were heavily pop hip hop r&b driven. (2013 - 2015) - this is the dodgy part. 2015 - 2016. The HYYH and Wings era. There were much more opportunities to use Jin and contrary to some lies propagated, he was not weak. The fancams from this era carry the truth to his vocal prowess. However, this was the era he was most insecure about his dancing. So I believe there was a cancellation effect. But it’s also the era where he eventually overcame his own insecurities. - Love Yourself era (2017 - 2018) is when Jin came into his own. There are many fandom highlight moments in group songs too (actual Armys. Not people who only like some members and Jin not being one of them). Dimple, 134340, Airplane pt 2, Crystal Snow etc. But there was still a genre thing here where heavily electro pop songs in particular didn’t have many lines for Jin. I think it’s be you cannot really add auto tune to his voice in a natural way. It sounds weird. But Jin started to gain recognition slowly in this era. - Map of the Soul era (2019 - 2020) is when I believe even the team actually finally understood how to use Jin in songs regardless of genre. He start to become a mainstay in the final pre chorus and chorus especially because his projection is fantastic so it’s great to use when the instruments come together. He’s able to show above the track too. And his prowess as a live performer was acknowledged and accepted. This includes critical acclaim as well. Mistreatment is not really the word I would use. But I do believe the team (this should have been P’Dogg’s responsibility) did not have the required knowledge to understand how to use his vocals in their songs. I say this because this problem persists with Tae too. He’s a baritone being made to constantly sing in tenor key. A lot of people brag that it shows his range without realising that his voice will eventually change and he may end up not being a baritone eventually. That is why I love ch2 for Tae. He’s singing in his key with ease and making beautiful music designed for him. I hope and pray that Tae gets to continue singing in his key in the future too. But the more short songs they make as a team to fit with industry practices, the more frustrating it is going to get. If it’s not one member, it’s another that will be impacted on the line distribution. I hope we return back to longer songs down the line.

[@frankiebiggz]

Thanks for the insights! Very interesting! Army is full on knowledge! I purple you! 💜

[@fierte]

@ thank you for reading my long comment too Frankie. I wanted to clarify before the threads are populated with overly victimising solo narratives or overly sanitised “everything is fine” Armys narrative. The truth is in the middle. This is a group that evolved with time. And since the group rarely leans into rock/ballad for their studio albums (their concerts however have a rocker aspect to them), it does hamper Jin’s ability to stand out in some ways; but he never slips on his solo songs. Same goes for Tae I’d say wrt genres and representation in BTS music sonically. But I believe we’ll see the next stage of evolution when they reunite.

[@marinal.]

Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. This creator sounds like she a Jin biased. This was nice though very opinionated. Stay is actually JKs song that Jin sings on with another BTS member. I think they influence each other a lot. The members i mean. I am glad u are learning more about Jin. I am glad BTS makes u happy. I hope ur days will continue to be lighter and brighter. Hugs. Borahae. -NY USA 2019 Army💟

[@fierte]

I agree.. she should have clarified that Jin participated in writing lyrics.

[@jan_youremylullaby6551]

All about Korean yt channel made videos for other BTS members too💜.

[@frankiebiggz]

Did not know that! Thanks for the info Marina!

[@ЕленаФайзулина-р6щ]

Tell us about how Jin's desire to compose music was blocked by a Pee Dog. RM told about it. Or about Dynamite, where Jin was not even given his own location. Who didn't give it? In this connection, he developed impostor syndrome and the most difficult time was depression. As a result, the "Abyss" was written

[@ЕленаФайзулина-р6щ]

ОТЕЦ ДЖИНА НЕ ИМЕЕТ ОТНОШЕНИЯ К САМСУНГУ. Вы посмотрели ложь о Джине.

[@leastnext-uf6rt]

It's sad that in every video you do about a single BTS member their toxic solos come crawling out of the woodworks. One of their hallmarks is not admitting a member's flaws (newsflash every human has them), thinking their chosen member can do no wrong and was allways as good at what they do like they are now (showed no improvement from debut till now) and is in some kind of argument with BigHit, Bang Shi-Hyuk, Pdogg or other managment people or being mistreated by them (disrespectful because solos treat the members like children that can't determine their own lives). Also their member allegedly hates all the other members and wants to leave the group and solos think that he is the best in the group and is the most famous. (I also saw this phenomenon on your Jimin videos) Tze real nistreatment is happing roght now by Geffen, their US distributor, who didn't ship albums on time so that Walmart and Target cancelled countless preorders last minute and didn't report all the numbers to Billboard so they couldn't be counted. Similar stuff happened to V, Jimin and RM as far as I'm aware.

[@ЕленаФайзулина-р6щ]

Find footage that confirms that Jin once could not sing or dance. What has he improved? Have you heard "I love you"? It's an early Jin. What are you talking about? This is a wrong video, starting with the fact that his father never worked at Samsung

[@opaquea2448]

Jin said during a voice with Jimin that his dad's company supplies to Samsung and is based on Germany. I do agree that Jin could always sing well though because he gave the best vocals during the I love you cover and that was around 2016.

[@ЕленаФайзулина-р6щ]

@@opaquea2448 This is a legend that the old army diligently supports. The stereotype is "a rich handsome man who was hired only for that reason." Jin rarely says anything about her family. For example, his mother is not the beauty queen of Korea. Yes, there are many mysteries around him: Did Jin study for an exchange in Australia and does not know English? he entered the 200/1 competition and brilliantly graduated from the famous university in acting and at the same time could neither sing nor dance? armie found the Konkut program, there are many music courses. Jin is from a rich family (he has collectible figurines in his pre-debut, the first car is not Korean-made), he was invited by the famous SM and suddenly he chooses an unknown poor BH?

[@ЕленаФайзулина-р6щ]

these films are distributed, apparently, by those fans who blindly follow the managers. These films create the usual stereotypes in k-pop (be aware of the mandatory stereotypes in k-pop). One question that ruins this movie is: go back to 2012 and find Jin's "bad singing." Dancing is also questionable. I can find a bunch of evidence about Jin's plasticity and jumping ability. But everyone repeats these stupid stereotypes created by Shihek. It is much more interesting to create a film about the confrontation between Jin and Shihek. And yes, thank you: Jin was criticized not by journalists, but by fans. They still hate him.