The Samsung Smartphone Scandal: Explained

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[@Mrwhosetheboss]

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[@WarriorRev6300]

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[@Nistalica]

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[@alvinsj3189]

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[@thefanman2912]

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[@NewKyro]

Hello There

[@picklerick_91]

There’s something that needs to be said from this… I would prefer that everyone needs to have a certain level of transparency when showing the next gen chips… Essentially for me all day battery life compared w less time near a wall outlet is what I really need… Forget thinness of the phones… larger more thicker phones w a good amount of efficiency and good battery savings paired a good durable housing and easily replaceable parts is key to me getting my phone moving forward…. Another great quality video Arun… Cheers

[@MitchM240]

Agreed I would rather the phone slightly thicker and give me more battery life.

[@akashbadhai7279]

I agree

[@Swampert384]

I’m inclined to agree. Alternatively if graphene can be made more available and used for batteries, we could have the phones as thin as they are now but with an all-day+ battery

[@picklerick_91]

@@MitchM240 There’s like unknown brands n stuff who do this sort of thing like Oukitkel n others w big beefy batteries, durable designs, and more… they need to be known more so everyone can know about them… I would get my next Android from them…

[@picklerick_91]

@@akashbadhai7279 👍

[@i3looi2]

WE're PAST the point were we need extra performance from generation to generation. If Qualcom releases next year a chip that consumes 20% less energy but has no performance gains. That's still huge.

[@driftkingdom532]

Yep

[@dnegel9546]

Im still on SD845 (lgg7) and I don't feel I'm missing out on anything performance related. Main reason I will upgrade next year will be because I want more ram and better cameras. That's it.

[@arnoldmbuthia2687]

That's how you know it isn't an apple bionic chip

[@Hypercheeker]

@@arnoldmbuthia2687 apple bionic chips are insane, i upgraded from a phone with a sd765g to one with a15 bionic and it's insane

[@YourLocalCafe]

@@dnegel9546 rip LG phones, i miss their dacs.

[@Waiknz]

Those numbers were always a bit shady for me since, when actually comparing both the new flagship and the previous one, you wouldn't even get close to those numbers. Let's hope manufacturers start focusing on the cooling and battery side of things more.

[@sj7330]

The problem is that this phone shouldn't be worth a 1000 dollars in the first place. Even if you don't use this phone to its fullest potential you still payed for the specs. It's like buying a sports car that should technically be able to go up to 200mph but can only go up to 90mph due to company regulations and being okay with it. You shouldn't be okay with it because you still payed for 200mph specs. No one would by a Porsche that has regulated speed limits against their will. Not to mention they advertised their products like they overcame overheating and that you could use the products to the fullest when in reality they limited the specs against the consumers will without even telling them. Not to mention they literally tried to cheat geekbench so they wouldn't get caught. Anyone who has bought a Samsung phone has been deceived and is better off with buying a galaxy A series phone. No one should have to pay a thousand dollars for this. There should be legal action taking place and Samsung needs to pay the price.

[@ian.williamson]

@@sj7330 you know roads have speed limits, right? And now that Samsung has updated the software so you can turn the optimization off, you can use the entirety of the specs you paid for. I don’t like how they only let benchmark apps work around it, because that’s definitely cheating, but it does make sense that they would limit performance for the sake of battery life. My gaming laptop does that every time I unplug it, the bad thing is that they didn’t tell anybody they were doing it.

[@sj7330]

@@ian.williamson Even if you have speed limits you still payed for the whole performance of the car even if you don't use it to its full potential. Do you get a discount on a Lambo just because there are speed limits? No. Samsung only updated the software after getting caught and it doesn’t even matter anyway. There is no actual way to fix this because even if you turn gos off it will overheat, throttle and make the battery life shorter. At least your laptop works perfectly fine when it’s plugged in right? As you said the bad thing is they did it without telling anybody and against the costumers will. They even went ahead with false advertisement. If they couldn't make a phone that meets their claims they should have released a phone they could build properly in the first place. This phone shouldn't be on the market.

[@ian.williamson]

@@sj7330 I mean they don’t make their own chips like Apple so I think it’s okay to limit power consumption when most people don’t need it anyway. Tons of people buy lambos and vettes so they can go even under the speed limit sometimes. But should definitely have been more upfront about it and given us the option to toggle it from the start. The best solution imo would be to let the customer choose their own max voltage and clock speed like you can do in bios on a pc, then people can decide if they want battery life or performance, and be able to change it on the fly like boost it when they’re about to play a game or something. When computers don’t have adequate cooling, they throttle too, and in that instance you’re leaving performance on the table too, just like here. It would make way more sense if Samsung did spend a bit more time on the design and maybe add a little thickness for better cooling, liquid metal and vapor chamber, stuff like that. But again, 99% of people prioritize battery life over speed bc it doesn’t matter for 99% of things you do on your phone. There should still be an option for people like us as I mentioned before though.

[@sj7330]

@@ian.williamson Yes I totally agree but it's not a matter of whether users need the full specs or not. They paid for it. This is clearly false advertising and deceiving their customers. There should be compensation.

[@FaerieDust]

As mentioned in the video, I wish manufacturers would shift focus from constantly increasing the power of the chips, to improving them in other ways. Stuff like better power efficiency would be an upgrade consumers would actually benefit from to a much larger extent.

[@miken8889]

they already exist, but we live in a world of biggest/fastest and in the throw away society!

[@angelvelez139]

This is why I've after many many years of being a staunch android guy now bought an Apple iPhone. Cheers!

[@niceengine2571]

More powerful chips are more efficient LOL

[@yia01]

well, if u have an andriod just tune down teh cpu power comsumption. u can make teh chip preform to last gen preformance but with better battery life. u can set custom preformance profile to save battery life, instead of doign 1440p @120 hz, tune it down to 720p at 60. with the current chip u can tune down teh cpu by a good 30% and not notice it in regular usage such as reading, surfing the net and stuff. u will only notice it when gamming. turningoff transition animation and stuff to mak ethe phone fell faster and so on.

[@danybalaian7103]

Buy an iPhone if you want power efficient chips and top notch performance… everyone is bashing apple but their phones are worth buying

[@intensegaming7181]

It would've been useful if big influencers like you covered the issues on S22 Ultra for eg audio video delay so that Samsung finally does something to fix it quick. On the flip side nice video as always!!

[@Ulli-lv5xd]

Absolutely! Currently watching this on my galaxy 22 Ultra and the audio-video lag is killing me

[@intensegaming7181]

@@Ulli-lv5xd trust me man millions have that problem, hopefully it's solved soon, what I don't understand is that we pay bloody £1500 for a premium smartphone and the service is no way near premium!

[@mosalahmosalahrunningdownt5579]

@@intensegaming7181 try xiaomi

[@littlebiggoliath]

Yes please!!!! I HOPE MR BOSE SEES THIS. ITS ANOYING AS FUCK 😔

[@karelbitter8040]

I have a s22 ultra. And every video lagged and audio didnt sync. But after updating all apps it just disappeared. Only instagram is still not syncing

[@TAMusic]

For me one of the most important things in a phone is battery life - I’m not that interested in slightly higher peak performance that’s only gonna drain my phone anyway. However I do agree that Samsung shouldn’t have hidden this feature from their users and used it to manipulate their customers…

[@andyH_England]

Yes, Samsung bragging about their benchmark scores yet using GOS to get much better battery life due to never allowing that performance within many gaming apps. That is as bad as it gets as they are misleading customers. They have owned up to it and said they would not do it again (though they havebeen caught out before) and hopefully OEMs will be more honest going forward. We all understand that games will thermla throttle, but to power throttle from the start is something that should be upfront.

[@propersod2390]

@@andyH_England samsung has never bragged about benchmark scores. That is something chinese companies do. And btw the source code for GOS says that it only affects game apps. No non game app is affected. KZbin, twitter, discord, gallery, benchmarks etc are not affected by gos.

[@basketcase1235]

this is what I've been wondering as well, and good thing it was mentioned in the video. I'm sure as hell won't be maximising the performance on my near-flagship phone (which i bought for other things beside performance) and most of the population probably won't either, so why not just focus on R&D to make it run more efficiently. frankly a SD870 for me is already plenty powerful, so why not make a more efficient version of that? also partly why i usually don't get the topmost-of the line flagship (re: the most expensive model flagship) because oftentimes the base model has better battery life due to it not getting the topmost processor of the day.

[@grimreaper5232]

and still their battery life is worse than apple's

[@nou8419]

@@propersod2390 Tf? Have you saw that never-ending Excel file about GOS? It included Literally every Thing. Even the apps or games which are unheard. HIGHEST OF STUPID FANBOYING. SMH

[@am53n8]

I knew about the benchmark cheating from the past, didn't know we're still trying to pull this crap. As for GOS: I'm not entirely against the idea; I don't need the full power of the chip while scrolling through twitter or something. However this should be clearly communicated to the user, and I have to be able to turn it off on a per app basis, or in its entirety

[@GareWorks]

Of course they're still pulling it. Just look at every single chart Apple puts out. Or Samsung, as mentioned in the video. Other honourable mentions would be Intel and NVIDIA (and sometimes AMD).

[@bipbop3121]

Phones are so past, in its entirety, with passive cooling. Say hello to thermal throttling and a phone too hot to touch. Phones have been getting larger, heat suppression mode, so like a laptop, you only get peak performance plugged in and even that has to be carefully modulated to keep you off the thermal throttle roller-coaster

[@nathanjimenez1562]

Samsung did address it and gives you the option to turn off gos

[@fifaworldcup1994]

@@nathanjimenez1562 How?

[@srp770]

@@fifaworldcup1994 watch the video first before asking such a pointless question

[@c_avee]

The funniest thing is; Android users are more honest about their phones than Apple users

[@lexa7250]

Yh sure buddy 😂

[@theheavy2742]

Username to post checks out 🤡

[@BlueDeeDoo]

Not really it just depends on the person

[@Mon_FX]

Even though you've named this video as if it's only samsung's scandal, I'm glad you mentioned other companies being in the wrong here. And that we need to be vigilant to keep them from lying to us. Next step would be to take charts from a presentation with at least a grain of salt. Especially since independant reviews are now coming in to show how straight-up false they are.

[@mikealstom0631]

@Don't read profile photo i see where this is going

[@zee9276]

@@mikealstom0631 don't read his name

[@lostdanger37291]

I'm sorry what companies are doing this

[@realHAMPTERCEO]

The title is to get attraction or else people would still be wrong

[@jkyablze1854]

Huawei is the best ffs

[@frank_av8tor]

Thing is this has been going on for years, meaning that last year's phone were also limited in performance. The actual performance the users see is improved from the throttled down phones of years past.

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

How much did *Volkswagen* lose and pay in compensation for exactly the same thing?!

[@alveolate]

this has been going on since the days of laptops, my young padawan. altho i believe laptops used more hardware-based limiters and were far easier to check with windows being a more open-top OS.

[@frank_av8tor]

@@MMAli-rq8kd Not the same thing. Volkswagen was cheating on emissions, not limiting performance.

[@fynkozari9271]

Samsung must be doing it for greater good. - Samsung fanboys probably.

[@tonyhawk123]

Nice try Samsung workers. No, treating benchmarking software differently is a con. Deceitful. Samsung has a long record of this.

[@anankingtron2287]

I just about had a heart attack when I received my s10 and realised it was Exynos instead of Snapdragon. Always gonna make sure its snapdragon from now on ahah

[@Zuhri69]

Same, with my S20. After finding that out, no more Samsung for me.

[@smashy6289]

@@Zuhri69 oof

[@smashy6289]

Smh dummy

[@yuminago]

Both the exynos chips and snapdragon chips have the same limitations because of GOS. Exynos chips are just worse though so you feel the hit more.

[@tayyabo]

@@Zuhri69 well if do some more research next time

[@virtual2288]

I'd basically say that most smartphones have a bottleneck in cooling. And chip manufacturers are extending the bottleneck. And instead should work to solve it so that bumping their performance actually matters.

[@PerkyBird]

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@Don't read profile photo bruh why u comment?

[@pdf-file]

@@cookieboysweet3460 He's a booooooot

[@clanceeinfinity5399]

ever heard of LTT or mkbhd?

[@PerkyBird]

@@clanceeinfinity5399 yep, but Arun’s videos are so much more engaging and entertaining

[@TedytheCreative]

Don't agree tho, MKBHD has the best quality for videos but as for entertaining and keeping the interest of people even not particularly interested in a particular thing it goes to him

[@maddrialan]

It's nice to be subscribed to a youtube channel which openly talks about the problems of a company, not fearing how big the company is and how it could affect future sponsorships and videos.

[@threx71]

My experience: I tried stopping the service my self (I have a rooted Note 20 Ultra) and although you DO get a bit more performance in some games for the first minutes, it actually make the whole experience worse, the game will end up eventually in the same performance realm than with the service enabled, and even make the phone more unstable, I experienced a lot more crashes on regular apps and I was logging quite more issues with the SoC spiking in performance than with the service enabled which keep everything under control. I agree with your point, this should NOT happen, but the main issue comes from the need for marketing for every upgrade, they need to say "this new phone has a faster chip" in order to make people upgrade their phones, and they need to "prove" the chip is faster, even though this will make virtually 0 difference with the last phone because thermals and battery are constraints still.

[@MuscleCarLover]

That was a very helpful read, thank you for sharing your experience

[@threx71]

@@MuscleCarLover you're welcome

[@epicgamer496]

it should be an option

[@thesaxophoneboy]

@@MuscleCarLover why are you over Muscle Carl? Did he break up with you?

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[@ScribeAwoken]

The bit about focusing on focusing on lower power consumption and better heat management is interesting to note because, if we were to shift our gaze over to the desktop and laptop space, that was one of the reasons why Apple switched from PowerPC to x86 processors, and while idk if it was explicitly one of the reasons they did it, it's also another benefit for switching from x86 to ARM. In both cases, a big driving factor behind the change in architecture was a desire for processors that were more powerful but that also ran cooler and used less power.

[@aaronm7212]

The next phone needs a superior cooling system, I wouldn't mind similar performance but would like to see a phones chip be on peak performance.

[@Lanxxe]

Even if the next chip has slightly reduced performance, if they use a better cooling system they can achieve the same or better performance than if they just brainlessly increased the power.

[@z-muny3256]

Hold the gas pedal on your car and see how long it lasts

[@blindfire3167]

It's next to impossible without making the phone bulkier, making a very expensive change to the phone's heatsink that probably wouldn't work very well unless they redesign the inside of their phones, or adding fans on the outside similar to the ASUS gaming phones (which needs BOTH things I mentioned to happen to work lol). Don't get me wrong, it's not like they don't have a lab/team working on trying to figure out these issues, but just like with battery, we're kind of in a pause and can't keep up with how good chips are becoming.

[@z-muny3256]

What about the whole casing of the phone be connected to a vapor chamber liquid nitrogen heatsink. . Use the whole phone as a heatsink, maybe it would get to hot in the hands . . Maybe not who knows?

[@printhallo]

You can't do that, the phone would be extremely heavy and huge

[@eldridgelimes]

I've felt for a while now that the chips are a big issue. It's really no use to bring out these new chips that can perform slightly better than their predecessor for a significant power and heat increase. Maybe the industry should start looking at making more efficient chips instead of forcefully pushing out big numbers, as that'd probably lead to even bigger innovations in the battery and quality-of-life departments.

[@suhandatanker]

@Savetion Foodist I could say the same about you.

[@dinervc9582]

That’s why we got Apple.

[@spacebear916]

Quality comment! I agree! Albeit not exactly the same but very similiar the flashlight industry also suffers from this "big numbers hunt". Nowadays you can buy a 10 000-lumen quite small light but how long does it last on the highest level (and how long can you actually hold it without it burning you)? Perhaps 1-2 minutes until the control chip decides to lower the output level in order to decrase temp. Also. More sophisticated cooling solutions for flashlights (like active heat shield and fans - nothing "einstein worthy" really) just recently made their way to the big market which surprises me because the LED heat problem has been an issue for a very long time. MOST people, dare I say, would be happier with a long duration light instead of a "short time super ultra bright light" but that's not what the industry thinks apparantly and this "high lumen hunt and hype" is very similiar to the phone markets issues. HYPE and BIG NUMBERS do sell however and maybe ordinary people ought to think a little about their habits also in order for the industry to change its focus and priorities concerning these things.

[@GareWorks]

The problem is the lack of competition. Exynos is a joke, Qualcomm is currently pulling an Intel (the 14nm+++++ nonsense), and Apple is the only one who can use their chips anyway, so there's little to push them to do better. Other chips from companies like MediaTek aren't huge competitors right now so they don't really matter, at least not for flagships.

[@twixieshores]

The big problem is that's not how you sell a phone to an average consumer. A 100+ MP camera is useless to most consumers (especially the ones who don't understand the concept) but it sure makes for good sales because of the simplistic belief that "higher number = better"

[@loveisonthemove]

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[@ezronthelegend]

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[@DeadRyGuy]

This was a phenomenal video, excellent breakdown of the situation. As a long time Samsung user (s6, s7, s10, s21), I've read lots of speculation that Game Optimizing Services throttles performance. Furthermore, it's been almost impossible to remove or disable without rooting your phone. This has been one of the more frustrating aspects, for transparency, testing, and because it prevents users from using their hardware how they see fit. Although I understand why hardware manufacturers are doing what they are doing, I do hope to see some changes in the near term (as more adequate cooling and power solutions will take time, and likely increase cost). I hope that phone manufacturers will be more transparent about what exactly their software does, and that users will be "allowed" to disable services as they see fit. As long as users are informed of potential risks, it should be a user's prerogative to do what they want with what they own. I also hope some sort of industry standard is adopted for how (mobile) chips are tested and compared. Peak performance is fine, but for what length of time can it be sustained? More importantly, what level of performance (and efficiency) can be had for say, 30 minutes at a time? Generally, I think people who care about this stuff understand that hardware is limited by it's cooling, and understand that some throttling is acceptable. Just as long as there is transparency, that's my big thing.

[@ShamrockParticle]

It's a bit needlesdly overproduced with escess visual and audible fluff, but the main points were good.

[@josephl3602]

@@ShamrockParticle so overproduced that you just had to let everyone know. Thanks, but one thing about his videos.. You don't have to watch them...

[@michaelsowerby9507]

Agreed.

[@Mantis4]

Being able to choose what kind of performance i want for each and every every program on my asus rog phone is great and if i don't care about it running super smooth at 60 or 120fps i can just keep it on auto and it does a pretty good job at balancing power consumption and performance. I wish more companies would allow for this level of customisation so we wouldn't run in to these kinds of problems

[@rayaanmohammad]

Don't reply to this guy he is a fake account trying to scam people

[@dropzonegaming]

@@rayaanmohammad i know

[@theo2378]

If these phones doesn't auto throttle its performance when it wants to, then it could very much lead to a thermal runway and brick itself

[@rayaanmohammad]

@@dropzonegamingthats good a lot of people are getting scammed so i just wanted people to know

[@Metalshark100]

yeah man i love my Asus ROG phone, literally best phone i've ever had, i limit it to charge up to 80% as to keep the battery in top performance for longer and i always run it at 120hz. never had an issue, at least for normal day to day life. if i feel like i'll need more battery throughout the day i'll set it to 90% charge but i barely ever try to charge to 100.

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[@sniper8579]

Same with mkbhd he’s moved on from just product reviews but explains the whole view without bias

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[@elephant1851]

You would need a radiator and a fan to sustain even a 5 watt CPU at peak performance. But you can run it at peak for about 5 minutes, and then slow it down before the temperature goes too high and voila you don't need a fan. 5 min or less is enough for most users to complete whatever task, OR they may only need top performance for little short bursts even if they use their phones for hours... unless it's a video game. Games, especially 3D games often require every bit of performance out of the chip AND for extended periods of time. You can limit the frame rate to save power and prevent the chip from heating up but everyone wants more, always. Most games on smartphones are limited to 30fps even if your screen can refresh at 90 or 120Hz the game still render at a lower rate and at a lower resolution than your screen's native specs. This is all done in the name of reducing power consumption and heat. Out of most apps, games are by far the most power hungry and demanding of performance. Designing software that reduces power consumption and heat while allowing the chip to perform as fast as it can under the given constraints is what every smartphone maker SHOULD be doing. That the problem is the tendency of manufacturers to believe their users are idiots and providing ZERO control over these features. To Samsung's credit they have given toggles and switches for a lot of the stuff - I was pleasantly surprised to find a "limit battery charge to 85%" function in the settings of my Note that was not there before. It was like a nostalgic moment reminding me why I am a Note user. Silliness aside, I think as the demand for high performance on smartphones gets higher and higher we will start seeing more controls over the power management software. Demand for performance has outpaced progress in making chips more efficient (do more for less watts) so clever software is used instead to manage chips that consume more power than ever before. New phones nowadays are designed around this and are simply not meant to perform at 100% power for any longer than about 5 min. It's an understandable compromise but users need more control over this.

[@elephant1851]

​@Hellequin Maskharat Fair point. From the phone maker's perspective they are just trying to protect themselves from lawsuits by making products "idiot proof."

[@spamton1996]

bro wrote an essay for 40 like

[@davel7037]

@Hellequin Maskharat having maximum performance at your disposal anytime is still what i would prefer, bcz i do need it. Better processor can also mean a better camera etc.

[@rxonmymind8362]

I think Moto z from the Motorola line in the extra accessories they had which added onto the phone was the right idea. Seeing that there's only so much real estate in a phone it's time to add on to it. I absolutely loved that phone and had several accessories like extra battery (which made it a power house) external snap on speaker and so forth. Have to literally think outside the box.

[@User-cb4jm]

Thank you for covering this. I googled Samsung scandal and the only news articles from mainstream trusted news sources are corporate/financial breaches from many years ago. And then some tiny, possibly dodgy news sites mentioning GOS. Wish this made the news like Apple’s battery issues or the VW emission scandal, rather than be glossed over.

[@sj7330]

Exactly this is not a problem that should be shrugged off or taken lightly

[@BS25999]

That could of course mean there is no scandal, that one reviewer is inflating this to increase his ratings.

[@sj7330]

@@BS25999 Nope it is In fact true. In Korea this is a huge problem and many people are furious since Korea is Samsungs most loyal market. It hasn't blown up in other countries because Samsung flagship phones don't really sell well in other countries.

[@leol.8658]

@@sj7330 ...what do you mean don't sell well? Samsung is the most popular android brand worldwide. At least try saying something believable

[@sj7330]

@@leol.8658 I said their FLAGSHIPS don’t sell well. On the other hand their cheaper alternatives like the Galaxy A series sell well. The GOS affects the flagship models more so naturally not many people know of it.

[@MrSen4lifE]

Just wanted to hammer your own point home: If next year they only produced a chip that is 30% more efficient but does not have any notable increase in peak performance, *you still would be getting an increase in performance* overall since you are able to actually utilize that loss.

[@alexwr]

We've already got all the power we need for smartphones. Software has become bloated and developers have become lazy. Let's focus on optimisation rather than speed.

[@AntonioNoack]

Developers haven't become lazy (they always were on a certain level ^^). The ecosystem has become extremely complex (software & hardware), so the primary focus are features/functionality, not top performance.

[@aasishwarsaravana5748]

Finally, new tech explainer stuff. Keep coming with more of these stuff 🔥

[@barsa95]

My Xiaomi 12X with the slower tier chip is actually faster then the flagship Xiaomi 12, that's just because having the same battery and liquid cooling system of the flagship equipped on a slower cooler chip enables my phone to run at peak power at any time giving me almost two days of battery life!

[@eclp2728]

The fact that Mrwhosetheboss uploads constantly is just amazing! Keep up the good work! (Keep rickrolling us)

[@Susnose]

hello same profile picture man :)

[@kushagra3569]

you could atleast watch the video before commeting

[@Ameerjanan]

Bruh you didn't even watch the video

[@eclp2728]

I'm currently still watching don't worry :)

[@2_Chezzy]

Lol

[@arnoldrambo2301]

The same thing happens with the laptops. As a Dell user, I can't even increase the voltage of my GPU by softwares like MSI nor use it's full gpu speed, leading to poor performance. But this thing should disappear when the customer is using the product primarily on AC power

[@blitzblix9455]

Some bought account stole your comment and got way more likes just so you know

[@7katter]

@@blitzblix9455 sue them

[@fred-youtube]

You should set Windows to high performance, check the BIOD settings, and vaccumm the fans

[@fred-youtube]

*BIOS

[@ryutsukishiba2943]

This is not a software limitation but a cooling limitation with software in place to protect your hardware from heat damage. Laptop GPU generally perform 10-30% worse than their desktop equivilents, and if you look at the bulky heatspreaders that are required to cool desktop GPU, you will see exactly why.

[@LDFFTV]

I had heard about this issue. Thanks for giving an in depth look. I care more about the features and capabilities of the device than I do the benchmark scores anyway. Still, this was good to know more about.

[@user-ot6we8hq8i]

Msg direct watsap~~~~ sss

[@SpawnPoiint]

Great insight and explanation. Also, GOS 😅

[@Desteny1v1]

@@Volshebnik1 shut up

[@SayoojGarrix]

I think every smartphone do that Yesterday Xiaomi got throttling

[@JadF1729]

You didnt even see the whole video yet .

[@techandy1747]

@tatsukialmologist 🤡

[@sh1121]

@@SayoojGarrix I think it’s more about how Samsung made the algorithm detect the type of app being used and throttle accordingly (ex. Throttle less when using a benchmark app compared to a game)

[@faddddyyyy]

Thanks for bringing this up. I always wondered on this; on benchmarking scores and the actually performance of the device during stressful gaming.

[@tayzonday]

Is this a scandal? I expect my phone to do CPU scaling just like a laptop. But maybe I’m an old nerd. The peak performance is still a part of my end-user experience even with CPU scaling.

[@CrèmeTropBrûlée]

Yea same I don't get the drama. Are people expecting the Cpu to be at 100% when the phone is idle or in notes app ?

[@Truecrimeresearcher224]

I think it's a scandal cause people wanted the user to be able to control when it's throttling

[@ys2850]

​@@CrèmeTropBrûlée Well every app has its own power consumption. When its limited to certain degree causing performance issue in the app itself, it is a big problem.

[@leehuang8866]

🥱🥱🥱 excuses, Samsung is trash

[@sh1121]

@@CrèmeTropBrûlée Because it’s misleading. Samsung boasts a rise in performance compared to their previous model and competitor flagships, but use GOS to limit the use of the CPU in actual high-end tasks such as gaming, so the users get less speed than advertised.

[@MianSarmadFayazMSF]

Amazing! I love how you talk about both pros & cons of things in such an unbiased way👍

[@christopherpylant2356]

The Apple instance was a little different compared to the other devices’ throttling. I do agree that it should have been made public.

[@skidamarink]

Exactly, other companies, including samsung, use this to bump up their benchmarking scores of their flagship phones

[@ianwlouw]

Actually Apple was worse because they were deliberately allowing phones, hence most people would feel the need to upgrade.

[@atharva_godse]

@@ianwlouw and it was happening with the phones which had a bad battery(for ef 80%)

[@canalperolasdanet2103]

Apple instance was very different,only old phones with poor battery health,not Brand new 2022 released phones and including exceptions to benchmarking

[@christopherpylant2356]

@@ianwlouw Apple allowing the phones to randomly shut down during heavy usage would not of been too great for their image. A fix was needed and Apple supplied a fix; it wasn’t implanted in the best of ways but it did help iPhone users. ----- Apple’s services are what they really want. Get an iPhone and do what with it? You buy Apple Watch. You buy AirPods. You buy subscriptions to Apple Music. You buy games. You buy apps. You buy the expectation of getting the best and that’s what Apple wants; not a lower profit like the iPhone. No, they want it all. The iPhone has millions of users. Apple doesn’t care if you have an older iPhone. They care about money making services and performance reputation. ~Typing from my 6s+ 👏👏👏

[@fivebrosstopmos]

Samsung may have been caught but I'd wager most companies do it

Honestly, I would not mind having a 1.5-2mm thicker, heavier phone if the manufacturer assures it has a better, bigger battery and cooling system to power the whole chipset at its prime. Thank you, Mrwhosetheboss!

[@miwiki6]

i use thick cases because i love to hold thick phones, who don't they do this?

[@HyperVanilo]

@@miwiki6 Because phone manufacturers can't satisfy every type of consumers

@@WilliamHelstad How so?

@@miwiki6 My point is not about keeping them bulky just because but about getting what the chipset is supposed to be able to do even if it means having a bulkier device.

[@fmadden71]

Honestly, this is why people like me watch people like you, about stuff like this. In other words, I don't believe what the manufactures have to say, and people like you help give the real specs. Thanks!

[@wanderlust...H]

Pin worthy📌👍

[@PRIMO19]

yes apple bad I hate iphones

[@chayanikabasu8520]

It just amazes me everytime how much you love technology and how much research and test work you do for everything before giving us any information. So thank you for that!

[@MainGoldDragon]

I only watched this because someone linked it in a discord server, but I have to say I love the smirk you have throughout the video! It makes you look like you are genuinely excited to talk about this stuff!

[@FFMummRa]

It was a matter of time until Samsung did it too, after apple did something similar.

[@fush3gaming900]

Actually, almost every phone company did this

[@eyeDavid]

Apple doesn’t do this unless the battery is bad and you have a toggle to disable so you can take that android fan boy lie somewhere else

[@addium3151]

@@eyeDavid Yes apple did it and there was no way to turn it off. You should really check what u say before accusing others

[@kbtriplesix]

@@eyeDavid youre a huge clown if you prefer apple and watch tech reviews lol

[@johnvarshith709]

@@eyeDavid 😂😆😆 apple lol

[@jayman4566]

Another thing to add to the list of things to work on. It sits right up there with right to repair and phones collecting GPS and other Data even when you opt out.

[@ishanarun5357]

Damn, this video is proper! I started watching your vids without liking tech, and now I'm obsessed!

[@TheLeverOne]

0:37 love how he said 'the software runs in the background' and they you see 2 people running in the background 😅

[@SpicyNoodleDragon]

Honestly I wished chip makers focused on efficiency more. Would love for a 5000mah battery to last 12+ SoT easily

[@grantic5413]

Ikr, i dont care how thin a phone is, i just want more power, cooling, and battery

[@AshwinHebbar18]

Just use Moto g40 fusion where u get 11hrs+ sot with 6k mAh

[@notagain2856]

Samsung M52 can get 12 hours SoT when the display set to 60Hz

[@bruxi78230]

@noodle dragon --- Actually they do spend a ton of time and money on efficiency. All chips in portable devices have performance cores and efficiency cores. As chips shrink in size, chipmakers are increasing both efficiency and speed in the efficiency cores which provides for better battery life. And modern chips are also doing about 6 important functions other than just running at top speed.

[@ifrankenstein7455]

@@bruxi78230 Yes but most of them not as much as 🍎 (apple). That's why iphone chips are so efficient (lasts longer with lesser battery capacity and runs cooler for longer). I'm an android user but the efficiency of apples chips makes me see that other chip designers and manufacturers are not doing good enough

[@creativityunstoppable]

0:37 Runs In The Background 😂🤣😂🤣 (Real People Running In The Background)

[@iamnisargful]

Classic Arun! Calling out real issues and spreading awareness. Love the vid

[@rayaanmohammad]

Don't reply to this guy it's a fake account trying to scam people

[@CactuarKnight]

And yet where are all the Anti consumer policy videos from Arun about Apple...?

[@jermaineflowers1538]

iPhones do the same thing, even more so. They have the most powerful processor in the smartphone world and don't provide any features to take advantage of the power.

[@mparagames]

well, technically a few games can take advantage of them, but to be fair, that's all

[@Ma1ne2]

Highly reminds me of the VW Diesel scandal. Also there the car's exhaust system could differentiate between normal drive and testing scenarios and could artificially reduce co² emissions during a test, making it appear as if the car was performing better (exhausting less toxic gases) than it actually was. Interesting story, thank you for sharing it! My next phone will be the FairPhone anyway :)

[@SpaniardNL]

Well not really, vw dieselgate was the most hilarious thing ever. Vw cheated emision tests which actually gave consumers a better product, your car had more power and used less fuel with VW's cheats. Yet suckers lined up angry at the dealership to have their car be made to run worse 🤣 i've laughed my ass off back then and still do to this day. Please mr manufacturer sir, I'd prefer an inferior product please 🥲

[@Ma1ne2]

@@SpaniardNL depends what you define as inferior, in engineering it always depends on what you want to optimize. Our governments - with in my opinion good right - decided to steer the car Industrie towards a more climate friendly place. Specially in cities the smog and toxic particles are a problem. It causes diseases many die of every year. So to call a product inferior that optimizes for human health rather than showing how small your dick is at the traffic light is a rather fine trade off.

[@GloomGaiGar]

@@SpaniardNL So why did VW act guilty the whole damn time and didn't try to explain it or fight back? Seems very strange.

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

@@GloomGaiGar *Volkswagen* designed the software in their diesel cars to recognize the parameters of the standard test and therefore output emissions that are vastly different from street performance. VW marketed their cars as environmentally friendly and lied to both consumers and regulators while selling cars that do not meet emission standards. That's why they acted guilty, recalled all of the affected cars and paid massive penalties.

[@notverypog]

Nah go for the PassionFruit ;)

[@techscout5710]

Although I agree with every thing in the video, I think most people donˋt need to upgrade their phone every year. Keep in mind, that our planet wonˋt do this long, especially, when theirˋs almost no chance to recover the resources.

[@orbitingganymede5403]

Exactly. This notion that everything just has to grow and get better is, as shown in the video, just another time proven to be not sustainable. A phone that does have a stable performance on practical everyday uses, long battery life, and most importantly longevity and repairability - what would the average person want more? Sure, if they wouldn't get bamboozled by all this tech innovation crap that makes them buy a new phone every year - there is still factories where a bunch of poor people work their asses off for over 10 hours a day with little to no vacation or free time whatsoever, just so that all these tech companies can keep producing and producing, further exploiting natural resources and the well-being of our ecosphere.

[@meggyyyyyj]

I love how this was just posted 2 minutes ago and it has over 77k views already u just see how far Mrwhosetheboss channel has grown

[@trinity_s1ayer672]

Tru

[@wizjaz2512]

17 mins have passed and only 58k. How did u even see a 77k

[@jellalfernandez46]

More than 20 min 60k till now 🙄

[@meggyyyyyj]

@@wizjaz2512 oops I made a mistake but my point still stands 🤷

[@EhdrianEh]

change the benchmark to power over time. We will be able to see the curve as it throttles due to heat. This would give an excellent view of power and cooling.

[@chikombechela2460]

"It runs in the background" 🏃🏃🏃 🤣🤣🤣 you guy's editing is so creative and so good!

[@jonasthumler4595]

It reminds me of the VW Diesel scandal where they limiting the emissions only when they recognize a testing device It's basically the same principle!

[@nhilandra7586]

No, it really isn't. What samsung have been caught doing is basically preserving battery life. Every manufacturer does that. The fact that it was disabled for benchmarks is unfortunate.... but here's the news.... most manufacturers will be doing the same thing. Do you really think that 'manufacturer x' with there snapdragon running 5% faster than the s22 is not doing the same thing?

[@jonasthumler4595]

@@nhilandra7586 And that every manufacturer does that make what better? And you don't know the whole dimension of the Diesel scandal, do you? It was also a lot of company doing that. Of course the reason why they doing that are different. We talk about two completely different things (car engines and smartphones). But from the business perspective it is the same. Both tried to make promises they both can't accomplish in real conditions.

[@peterdevreter]

Not quite. VW was doing it to fool governments. Samsung is doing it to prevent the phone getting fried due to heat. But that should be an option that a customer can turn on (with a warranty void warning) and off. Edit: just heard that they already did this :)

[@braders5192]

@@peterdevreter These limits wouldn't be a problem if all apps were treated the same. The fact that benchmarking apps were left unrestricted is the issue here.

[@notagain2856]

All that Samsung talk about how the S22 Ultra has new advanced cooling system is misleading, when in the end they still need to limit performance to avoid overheating

[@ammaarlaheri]

Arun's videos always make me think atleast once , ''You learn something new everyday""

[@disghosted5668]

I thought all manufacturers has been doing this ever since! Camera, hardware, and software optimizations. Too bad for Samsung, it's the only one getting hit big time! 😅

[@tonyhawk123]

No, it's mainly Samsung. Cry me a river.

[@disghosted5668]

@@tonyhawk123 Samsung is just the most notorious! Still, it's not the only one doing this. 😅

[@SoulWarriorSF]

@@tonyhawk123 I remember Apple doing this too

[@tonyhawk123]

@@SoulWarriorSF no, you dont

[@SoulWarriorSF]

@@tonyhawk123 do your research buddy

[@mayb9]

Thanks for the explanation.Makes it much easier to understand!

[@um-vl6on]

I think phone makers need to display their real score when the optimization is on and when it's off. So we can decide is the newest snapdragon worth it or we could just stick with the older snapdragon

[@itsnotnotjonathan]

True. This is actually the best way to be transparent: "Here's the raw performance, but your battery life will be shit. Here's the optimized performance, but your battery life is manageable."

[@GloomGaiGar]

Never buy the first generation of a new thing especially in tech.

[@um-vl6on]

@@GloomGaiGar true. I was saving for realme GT, but my phone broke all the sudden and I have to settle with realme 7 pro which is like 2 years out of trend but turns out it's the best bang for buck. I got the best of the old era like sd card slot, audio jack, but also the best of the new era like superdart charge, on screen fingerprint, and amoled. I used to feel abit sad with the weaker snapdragon, but this video change my mind.

[@donthompson567]

I have a Samsung Galaxy s21 ultra and I don't plan on buying another phone for years stop putting out new phones every year put out a new phone every 2 years that will solve a lot of this problem we don't need a new phone every year. People are going to stop buying phones as has already been seen phone purchases are down by 30%. Nobody needs a brand new phone every year.

[@GlasgowGallus]

As always, cheers for a great upload, and I took the SurfShark deal too. Absolute steal. Cheers bud 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@rajkumarimali9555]

0:37 i laughed so hard when the boss said that runs in the background and someone is running in the boss background 🤣

[@g.m.ahkamuzzamantoasin105]

Let's just appreciate the quietly content Arun makes💥

[@ashwattdoeseverything429]

Ah yes quietly

[@rajveersingh2k04]

Is this a bait?

[@nou8419]

Another Sub Beggar ffs...

[@Udayveer_Singh]

Quality??

[@VynZography]

For years they have been touting the Snapdragon version of their flagship phones and then quietly selling the inferior exynos version in Europe.

[@vinylmodsmanitoba]

The Exynos chips arnt exactly inferior, and in previous models the Exynos has been the better CPU compared to Snapdragon so... Not to mention Exynos chips have basically had 'Efficiency Cores' for more than literally 10 years now, so can achieve better battery life because of it.

[@AdamGamingARK]

@@vinylmodsmanitoba exynos chips are worse and heats more and have much worse performance its a known FACT. idk about this year but last year and before the SD chips were always like 2 years ahead of exynos. exynos also throttle much more. I hope they fixed them this year

[@GenusSuperius]

@@AdamGamingARK Exactly. I went from an S10 SD I got abroad a few years ago to an S20 Exynos I bought in Europe after I lost my S10, and the S10 gave equal, if not better, performance without the throttling and overheating issues the S20 has. If I hadn't forgotten about SD chips not being available in Europe, I would have imported.

[@Alcetroz]

This explains why Samsung's latest phone has a lot of issues when playing ML, And people thought it was Moonton's fault.

[@keexko]

Never believed in benchmarks. Any device could be good in a test. Real life use/reviews are what I trust the most not the numbers.

[@ivo]

I have the S22 ultra. I've never noticed any issues with apps. Last time I cared about benchmarks was when i was installing custom roms on my gt540, haven't even looked at any scores for 10+ years.

[@legolasdf1]

A LOT of ppl care about silly benchmark scores, even to an unhealthy degree dude, same as pc "enthusiasts"

[@EfficientTrout]

Then you are buying a phone that’s basically have same, if not lower performance than older Galaxy phone, and that’s the problem. People buy new phone for upgraded performance, not throttled experience.

[@kiritsu79]

that's teh thing, you won't notice this issue in standard apps cause the processor it's powerful enough to cover that, but you will notice when playing games or using camera that's when the processor needs to work at its maximum, and that's where the GOS sabotage the phone making it throttle making your experience bad

[@nou8419]

@@legolasdf1 Why would one not care? Suffering with Shitty performance in actual usage. Meanwhile, Getting Killer Benchmark scores. So, Benchmark Is Necessary to Find out these practices.

[@sh1121]

Of course, so false advertising is justified. Whoo hoo fanboys, you’ve done it again /s

[@bilalmustafa7334]

Yes, being a tech guy I know we shouldn't push chipsets to their max power but there must be an option like Huawei is providing "Performance Mode" for long time in their smartphones. If someone wants to use full performance they can easily enable it, otherwise use it as best between performance and efficiency as well as reliable for battery and temperature. Miss you Huawei in this era.

[@arunk5307]

The point, but what if someone pushing the performance to max, the phone cannot handle the heat.

[@bilalmustafa7334]

@@arunk5307 Don't worry these phones already have cooling system to cool down the devices

[@awesomeentertainers2310]

Even Xiaomi gives this feature (not a fan but a disappointed user of it)

[@awesomeentertainers2310]

@@arunk5307 exactly one of my friend run the cpu throttling test for more than 120mins (custom rom idk which one) so his phone was like a hot pan fr but the phone really gave top notch performance comparing the average maximum and minimum performance scores

[@cruzzitomorales3700]

Huawei trash 😂😅😊😂😅😊😂😅😊😂😅😊😂😅

[@travelpakistan1519]

I don't have enough money to buy these phones, but still watching you're all videos, and loves you're videos❤

[@PfropfNo1]

Did apple also allow the full performance for benchmarking apps only? Because as I remember they linked it to the battery health. An old battery would provide lower peak power and a chip that’s power consumption exceeds the power provided by the battery would crash the phone.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

correct, what apple was doing was perfectly fine and prolonged the device life. the fine was for not communicating it in the update notes. all this fuzz in thevideo is nonsense, all this limitations are needed or you melt your device in no time. it also could cause fires (galaxy Note)

[@chantakzee]

I like how they roped in Apple so to avoid being called biased reporting when what Apple doing is prolonging the service life of older gen phones instead of cheating performance test.

[@bobmarley7787]

@@chantakzee apple slowed down iphones to get people to buy new ones. If it was for battery then they would have said so from the beginning instead of only after getting caught

[@WardedPredator]

Don't advertise something as having so much power if you can't cool it adequately enough to use said power.

[@tilbintt3491]

@@WardedPredator funny that we don't see Apples processing power in real life testing. Its just the battery they are really good. But when it comes to usage Android phones are pretty much neck and neck with Apples 'powerful processor'

[@xiserhoff]

I've noticed serious choppy performance just within the UI of my S22 that was never an issue on my S20. Examples being pulling down the notification tray, opening apps, summoning the app switcher, and other system animations. Sometimes, even just swiping through pages on the home screen results in some pretty noticeable fps drops. So bad that I've begun to wonder if I was accidentally shipped a two-year-old midrange phone.

[@ShamrockParticle]

I bought a smart watch that acted poorly. A hard reset and reconfigure afterward resolved it. These things aren't magic and even setup scripts can have wonky results

[@ajaypuri130]

Hi. I must again say you speak wonderfully! I have been using computers for 40 years now and I have seen all the chip manufacturers lie about the max performance - especially with laptops. If you look at desktops it is not so bad as whenever I am using my desktop (currently on a 5950X AMD) it is shown as running 4.7 to 4.8 GHz in Windows Task Manager all cores and I like it as the base core speed is quite low of 3.4GHz. However, the so called 4 core HP Laptop I have bought which houses an Intel i7-1195G7 (up to 5.0 GHz as per specs) I am just able to get over 3GHz even with power performance in a AC power on state. Interestingly this so called 5GHz CPU when I look at the base in Windows Task Manager it is of 1.8GHz! Here the laptop manufacturer perhaps having the blessings of Intel is clearly lying. Maybe to realize the full speed the machine will need to be double in size and that is not practical but why the misleading advertising!! They are just making fools of us end users. I have seen this before in my previous laptops, so the sinister practice is very much on and now the mobile companies have come to the party. Cheers!!

[@allanokoth7825]

I love the way you break down technology so that us non-techies can get a handle on it. Good stuff.

[@notubaid]

Nowadays these chips are already really good and can perform basic functions and gaming pretty efficiently, I dont see why they are still pushing their performance which can be only used while hardcore gaming. As Arun said, instead of performance, better efficiency, battery life and cooling system can be seen in the phone, it would be a great upgrage.

[@hoiljakej_rdedo5696]

I like the new s22 series but everytime there's something shady about flagship phones it just brings a bad light on all the good improvements that have been implemented on it.

[@codejunki567]

@@latinouncle8752 sim cards aren't going away any time soon lmao

[@lunix3259]

This is so true

[@dream-bb7mx]

the best thing about arun's videos is that they are so informative and they're usually under 10 minutes which just shows that he doesn't care about ad revenue and just wants to get the right information out there

[@steveseidel9967]

Informative… and also deceptive and misleading. He lumped in Apple as one of the vendors who misleads performance by throttling everything except for benchmarks. Apple has never done that. Yes, they throttled for weak battery situations, but the benchmarks showed the throttle.

[@MrLunithy]

@@steveseidel9967 So like you just said he is right Apple do the same as everyone else. And If Apple don't lie about that then it would be very little stacked up to the repugnance that is Apple.

[@steveseidel9967]

@@MrLunithy Nope. Try again. The practice of throttling performance EXCEPT FOR KNOWN BENCHMARKS is unique to Android OEMs. Apple has never done that. Keep defending the repugnant practices of the likes of Samsung who intentionally mislead you.

[@kemcolian2001]

@@steveseidel9967 that was one comment. he even addressed that in an earlier video on what apple was actually doing.

[@steveseidel9967]

@@kemcolian2001 Words matter. He lumped Apple in with others who intentionally misrepresent benchmarks scores. There are legitimate reasons to throttle. That's not the issue or even what this video is about. It's about treating benchmarks different from other types of applications. As such, this video is misleading.

[@AjayKumarDaseash]

You nailed it, to add to it, Samsung Galaxy series WIFI is the most unstable one. I have noticed this in Note 9 to Note 20. Not sure other versions have this issue. Wifi keeps disconnecting if you move away from one access point to other, whether using Mesh or normal network.

[@logan62097]

Maybe we should mention that with Apple, they just lowered performance on older devices, primarily on devices with batteries that were failing. After seeing multiple phones and tablets get 7+ years of software support, I absolutely believe Apple was working with the intentions to make users of older phones less frustrated with the experience. It was still shady, they should have told the consumer, but at the same time the 6s got iOS 14, can we really say they don't care about longevity? Samsung is doing this on newer $1000 phones.

[@alisha4902]

this

[@Randomdude21-e]

Facts.🙌🏻

[@joyalpatel6000]

This!

[@chaddy9303]

this video is about what samsung was doing not apple, stay on task next time though

[@alisha4902]

@@chaddy9303 you apparently didn't watch the video until the end 👀

[@Splucked]

Calling them disingenuous is being incredibly generous.

[@heisara]

Samsung: makes their smartphones slower on purpose Apple: "first time?" (Edit: y'all really fighting over a joke 💀)

[@nicowasheremate]

They did it to protect battery health, and now they’re completely transparent about this (and give you the option to disable this feature) in settings I love Android as much as iOS (Note 4 was peak Samsung) but to say that Apple does this is silly considering all the other sus stuff they do currently

[@Ghost-hs6qq]

The difference is Apple made a 8 year iphone slower to prevent the battery from being completely destroyed.

[@basurofobo]

Apple did it to protect the battery in older devices and when your battery reached a health level of 80% or less, while Android phones do it in their newest flagship devices to brag about their scores…

[@youngdaggerdick8410]

apparently apple makes the older phones slower with their "software updates" so the user is tempted to get the newer iphone

[@Aaditya6050]

this needs more likes

[@NickT6630]

Phones should be made much thicker so they can have heatsinks and small fans to cool the chips and also bigger batteries.

[@out.5024]

Samsung use root coded processor strings similar to Mediatek Processors to boost performance during benchmarks and add a 30% inflation .

[@lakshyagrover6379]

Lol no only snapdoes that

[@out.5024]

@@lakshyagrover6379 no snapdragon does NOT use core strings for the sore purpose of performance boost during benchmarks

[@nou8419]

@@lakshyagrover6379 XD... Even if snap is caught doing those things then it was actually OEM fault. DUMBEST STATEMENT I'VE SEEN TODAY.

[@MoreMSTChase]

3:17 Arun uh you spelled “service” wrong lol

[@mayabass24]

I loved my s10, it worked great and I didn't have a ton of performance issues. But at times it would get so hot I couldn't hold it and would literally have to set it down for a few minutes. It was like holding a frying pan lol

[@MG-im8ku]

I have an S20+ and experienced this just the other night. My cable provider offered a new feature to watch basketball games live on your phone and give you the ability to control the camera angles and can do slow motion replays all live, on the fly. It's an awesome app. But within 5mins of using it, I had to stop because I couldn't even hold my phone anymore due to the heat.

[@mayabass24]

@@MG-im8ku probably using that TSN 5G Bell feature. I can only imagine the heat that comes from the phone with that lol

[@MG-im8ku]

@@mayabass24 that's exactly it! Wasn't sure if you were from Canada or not lol man, the heat it caused, I thought my phone was gonna catch fire. It's an awesome app, but not ideal to use on a phone.

[@hestiaviolet7473]

I would like to commend the organization and cohesiveness of how you explain in these kinds of videos. I have an extremely short attention span so it's hard for me to stick long, but of course I'd still like to learn. Kudos to you! Kept it short and sweet, while giving the most information.

[@rayaanmohammad]

Amazing high quality videos like always. You suprise me every video Arun

[@abdulhadiyaseen1288]

Is it me or the transition THIS TIME at 2:06 isn't clean as it usually is...??

[@Ryanlp100]

I remember when my Galaxy S9 plus was taking anything thrown at it like a charm now its staggering af sometimes. By the way love the production quality and animations in this video 👌

[@felixja5147]

@@zigzagtoes same bro, my s9 is around 4 years old now and i game hard asf on it and it runs everything like a champ but the battery sucks now and i need to change it. I have the exynos version btw

[@kacey797]

@@zigzagtoes my S8 used to perform like a monster but now it just lags everywhere even when typing on the keyboard...

[@tridens6708]

I'm using S9+ 4 years old phone going Strong did replace the battery with genuine Samsung battery last year

[@cfothough]

I have a galaxy S9+ in my collection and it honestly still feels fast to use

[@TheNpcNoob]

@@felixja5147 your device is 4 years old, it’s expected that the battery will need changing

[@RolandBechtel]

This happened with the I9 MacBook pro's. They could never reach their potential because of cooling issues. Specs looked amazing and were they pricy but the performance was never delivered.

[@yazdezadmogrelia7875]

Hey, I did do a bit of research about this last year when I was using my galaxy a71 and did notice the game optimising service halfing my performance the best part is earlier u could even disable it but after a software update samsung even updated knox to prevent people from doing that and to this day that phone even with its theoretically "more powerfull chip is more laggy and stuttery then the galaxy note 9 exynos version in game I really hoped that some one would bring this to light but i had given up. I am really glad this issue was brought to light and the issue was rectified in the s22 series but what abt the flagships which are at end of software support but still pretty relevant and capable like the note 9 and the other mid range phones? Honestly i think they should give an option to disable Game Optimising Service in developer options that way atleast the user wont disable it by accident and wonder what happened ,if the user disables they may very well be aware of the performance gains and the losses too. As i think that could be a fix or creating a seperate power mode called high performance like there was in one ui 2.1 which disables GOS. Anyways thanks so much for bringing this to light as someone had too. I really love the content and keep up the good work

[@fred-youtube]

Onr UI 4 has an "Enhanced Processing" feature, does this disable GOS?

[@nou8419]

@@fred-youtube Nope. There is Something New as "galaxy labs" you can find it there.

[@yazdezadmogrelia7875]

@@fred-youtube no it doesnt the update was only recived by galaxy s22 series flagship phones it is game booster under samsung lab which is basically experimental features for all other devices after one ui 2 there is no way to disable GOS without risking your warranty or having a risk of rooting,etc

[@314Tekno]

All things I already knew, but set out in a very entertaining and informative manner. The only point I would contend is that a chip running at under max performance also runs more efficiently. A chip with a 30% performance boost can run sometimes significantly more efficiently than the previous generation chip at the same level, especially when the manufacturing process is improved between generations.

[@blizzerbladeroblox1532]

I feel bad for the people who weren't so much in tech and got fooled by the name of GOS, they didn't know that it doesn't actually "optimize" the game, it decreases the performance. Although there are still some benifits to GOS, I still don't like it.

[@michaelvl494]

GOS is a software level throttling of the hardware to keep the device running smoothly. There's vastly worse PR to be had if phones were having problems due to overheating and slowing down due to hardware throttling. The worse thing about this whole situation is Samsung highlighting the latest tech as a selling point but hiding the fact that they are limiting the hardware.

[@Swagalious689]

@Michael V L they should just provide a disclosure. Let folks know they throttle the speed at times. I dont want my phone blowing up in my pocket so im actually fine with it.

[@Puddle_duc]

@@Swagalious689 lol 2016 flashback

[@mynameis_2389]

Honestly never noticed anything different, then again I don't game on my phone

[@fantasytky28]

@@Swagalious689 Samsung are the company the scam and lie about the s22 base series screen going from 1hz up and get fked off when discovered by consumers. You think they will disclose this in the first place. They have been doing the same shit over and over but fanboy support it. What can real user do?

[@Revtiva]

That's the reason why I consider Snapdragon 870 and Dimensity 1200 to be the most optimized (or balanced should I say) chipsets Qualcomm and MediaTek have ever produced. What do you think??

[@tofu_golem]

Modern phones are now constrained by their cooling systems, and to be honest, I would rather have longer battery life than a few more FPS on a device with a tiny screen.

[@xlixity]

And other people in the comments would rather more performance than a longer battery life. And other people prefer simplicity and don't want confusing (to the tech illiterate) menus and such on their phones. You see the problem phone manufacturers have? While I can see someone saying "Well if you want a phone with ____ just get the ____, it's why we have so many choices!", the problem reappears when talking about flagships. A flagship cannot be the everything-phone without upsetting a certain market share. Heck, certain market shares have directly opposing desires. Those who want the absolute best performance would be willing to carry a brick phone, directly alienating those who want a compact mobile device with the highest specs compared to the rest of the market. Phone makers have to create a balancing act and it's led to what we have today. Personally, we gotta stop selling chips that are so powerful they require laptop-tier cooling to perform on smartphones. What's the point of paying a premium for something you will never use to it's best extent? If you need that kind of power then honestly just get a laptop at that point.

[@stevenx3m]

Same stuff is happening with laptops. I had to reasearch a lot before buying a new laptop a few months ago. Some laptops had great specs, but when you check benchmarks they are not performing accordingly. Graphics cars and even CPUs are limited because cooling or power supply or both are insufficient. Manufacturers just advertise models of components, but won't tell you they limit them.

[@daratz6421]

Not trying to be rude here but everything in life is limited by heat even humans, i don t think manufacturers should school everybody on how or why it happens. Nothing can run at 100 % efficiency so there always will be limits. The problem is giving fake results in benchmarking apps.

[@stevenx3m]

@@daratz6421 I know that sometimes component choice has many reasons. On the other hand most people look at basic specifications when buying. For example there are many gaming laptops with RTX3070, but no manufacturer provides information if the card is limited on purpose. If you can't find good test results somewhere, then you can only guess what you are buying. If you knew that a computer will never perform as you expect from its components, you would probably buy something else. Same thing with phones. You read it has great processor, but in reality it won't perform as in specifications. Such information should be provided to buyers.

[@daratz6421]

@@stevenx3m First of all sorry if a misspell somehting or sound rude because i am from a spanish speaking country and i am doing my best writing this reply secondly sorry if it is a little lengthy. No matter the device or component it will always be LIMITED, the question to ask yourself when comparing the same specifications is who handled heat dissipation better, which is something too technical for the average consumer. So the only way to have a real comparison is with third party benchmarking apps through a review done by the community. If such review does not exist then yeah you can only guess.... However people should know that no device is ever going to perform to its maximun capability no matter what and stop trying to reseach the peak performance of the component because that is not realistic in a prolonged use case scenario like gaming and manufacturers should not advertise on the max performance of the component when is irrelevant if you do not consider how the heat is being dissipated on the actual device. The problem with manufacturers telling you the performance is that they can use any benchmarking tool to get a good score for the product which may not be a good benchmark or get the perfect condicions to run the test like overclocking the device and use and upgraded heat dissipation system so it would be great if they actually came clean with the actual results but i doubt they want to do that...

[@stevenx3m]

@@daratz6421, English is not my native language too. My job is evaluating different microchips in a lab, so I know a little about electronics. A common user checks basic specs. Like CPU and graphics card, RAM amount and speed, SSD size and speed. I know that top performance is not always possible and often it depends on applications. Still factory limited performance without mentioning it is not fair in any way. Let me give you an example. Acer has a laptop with RTX3070. If I am not mistaken this card runs at 140W (maybe 150). That power and proper cooling guarantee certain performance. It can't be the same in every computer, but at least close. At the same time Acer has limited power to around 100W, so the performance of the RTX3070 is severely limited. When you buy this laptop you don't get this information. They sell you more expensive component that performs as much cheaper one. Makes no sense. This is similar to looking for a car and its specification list it as 150hp, no one tells you that even though the engine is 150hp capable, the manufacturer limited it to 100hp because they can't provide sufficient cooling and fuel supply.

[@sushwetabanerjee5]

What laptop did you end up buying ?

[@9936381282]

Sometimes I think that much processing power especially in a smartphone is an overkill just like a 4k panel on a 6.5 inch screen.

[@paulusjosef]

Sony Experia Pro-I moment

[@GauravMittal_GM]

I really feel same way as well. Unless you are pushing the phone by doing intensive tasks or playing heavy games, the extra performance is not even required. I upgraded from iPhone XR to iPhone 13 and even though I was supposed to get so much extra performance, I didn’t notice it at all because A12 was already overkill for me so extra power of A15 is pointless

[@himinshu]

very nice... I can it is great video after a very long gap.. lot other influencers just tell same bull shit... but you are doing good job