The Science & Faith Podcast - James Tour & John Sanford: Genetic Entropy & Genome Degeneration

[@drchristopherjsernaque]

Dr. John Sanford, thank you for opening up by publicly acknowledging that you are a Young-Earth Creationist. I admire your bravery. You are doing a good work. Thank you for having him Dr. Tour.

[@BenGLastreezy]

We got give the man the credit! Much respect for Dr. Tour as well, next should be Jason Lisle

[@MrWholphin]

He’s never been secret about his position

[@rubiks6]

@zempath - I don't think you'll find anyone taking you up on your flat Earth ideas here. You might want to try them somewhere else.

[@msterious8537]

@@rubiks6 I dunno. You've got people scientifically ignorant enough to think Earth and its life are only 6000 years old. They might be dumb enough to believe in a flat Earth too.

[@rubiks6]

@@settledown444 - You are quite mistaken about James Tour. He believes what God said in Genesis.

[@GospelEDGE]

Dr Tour , you need to have 10M subscribers! Praise God!

[@godexists2177]

Unfortunately, the world is interested in unfruitful content. You need to check out his Apple podcast too. Amazing content.

[@GospelEDGE]

@@godexists2177 thanks bro, just subscribed to your channel. Keep up the Good work!

[@godexists2177]

@@GospelEDGE Thanks for subscribing. We need more brave scientists like Dr Tour. 👍

[@sylviaingram9910]

I agree. However the Lord often works with a remnant.

[@GospelEDGE]

@@sylviaingram9910 True! Please add more of these kind of videos to your playlist!

[@RedefineLiving]

“My name is Dr. James Tour and I love Jesus very much”! Amen, thank you for making that clear! I love Jesus also. 🙏

[@MezztovenShort4DannY]

Touches my spirit every time

[@RedefineLiving]

Leszek Rzepecki The myth is your magical time daddy. Mutation are bad, they don't create new features. Kissing a frog won't make it a prince, but you think it will with enough time.

[@RedefineLiving]

Leszek Rzepecki Your comment shows how ignorant you are. I don't need to put our God on trial so you can pretend to be the judge. Millions if not billions have come to faith in Christ, so that answers your first face palm. Second, your magical time daddy only makes things worse for you. That's why you mock because you can't put forth anything intelligent to say. Respond to this: Mutation are bad, there are thousands of genetic diseases in the human population as a result of mutation. You say these mutations power evolution, so I ask you to provide me one beneficial mutation that is not reductive. Give me an example of a new system or new information that can take a fish to fisherman. Try bringing me an argument instead of brainless ramblings of desperation because you want to reject your God who loves you very much.

[@RedefineLiving]

Leszek Rzepecki He loves you very much. Can you give me an example of a beneficial mutation that is not reductive, that can take a fish to fisherman? I can give you thousands of examples of genetic diseases proving that mutations are bad. Also, why is there a link to Mendels accountant at the NIH? I'll tell you, because they don't deny reality like you internet atheists.

[@RedefineLiving]

Leszek Rzepecki Just as I thought, no examples. Looks like you are the one with the religion of naturalism. Like I said, I can give you thousands of examples of why mutations are bad. You can only give insults. Looks like science is not your thing after all... How about this, how about a live KZbin debate?

[@Anonymous-tm7rj]

I study molecular dynamics and condensed matter physics. There needs to be more literature out there about information theory, communication theory, and Shannon entropy and the role they play in biology. I'm glad these talks exist. It's amazing stuff.

[@pigzcanfly444]

This information needs to be on every science magazine out there and taught in every science class for that matter. God bless you both.

[@TheWelvarend]

I have immense respect for both Dr. James Tour and Dr. John Sanford. I can't wait for this podcast... but something tells me I'll have to.

[@tiffanymagee2700]

Dr. Tour, you are not only bringing the truth of Jesus to the scientific community, but you are helping to bring science itself back to truth!! Thank you!!! And thank you Dr. Sanford for your brilliant work.

[@Kazmir]

ROFL!

[@thomasjane4167]

​@@Kazmir Oh! Genius reply.

[@DanielApologetics]

Love watching this channel growing!

[@chiastics7361]

What a powerful group of scientists! This is exciting to see.

[@Silver_Samurai]

Wow I absolutely love Dr Tour's podcast. Thank you so much for this Dr Sanford. Jesus excites me so much, I just love, love this.

[@StandingForTruthMinistries]

This is going to be awesome!

[@ThomAnno]

Can't wait to see! From South Africa.

[@MrEpictus]

It was!

[@thomasjane4167]

Two brilliant minds.

[@thomasjane4167]

@@Leszek.Rzepecki I agree, but evolution is much more than just that.

[@wesleycolemanmusic]

@@thomasjane4167 Bahahaha

[@BibleResearchTools]

Great interview, Dr. Tour. I have been a fan of Dr. Sanford's since watching his presentation on genetic entropy at the NIH. God bless. Dan

[@noelajones619]

I am enjoying this podcast so much. I have read Genetic Entropy twice and it is excellent. I also am young earth Creationist and surprised to find how little attention is given to Creationist Geologists who give such amazing evidence for the flood. Thank you so much and I appreciate both of you and your great knowledge which you are willing to share with ordinary mortals like me. God continue to bless you both.

[@ambassador_in_training]

Thank you brother Jim for hosting such a wonderful brother in Christ and great scientist! I've learned so much from both of you. You are my American hero.

[@rafaelsalazar6791]

Solid content. Dr. Sanford is a great gift!

[@sladisciples]

Fearfully and wonderfully made takes on a whole new meaning.

[@sladisciples]

@ Yeah, and the more we learn, the greater the God gets!

[@anewmaninchrist]

As a non-theist, I am genuinely interested in learning more about this. Fascinating!

[@anewmaninchrist]

UPDATE: A couple months after my original comment, I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Praise be to God!

[@BhikPersonal]

@@anewmaninchrist Amen. That's awesome. Did you change your account name to "a new man in christ" after you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour? That's awesome.

[@anewmaninchrist]

@@BhikPersonal Sure did!

[@Jg12k]

Thank you very much Dr.James Tour for the podcast .

[@StandingForTruthMinistries]

I can't wait for Dr. Sanfords book on Adam and Eve. I'll be ordering it the day it comes out!

[@tomashull9805]

I can't wait for Dr. Sanford to defend the 6,000 year old earth and the universe... He can start by explaining how the light travelled to the earth from the edge of the universe... and at what speed.... ;-)

[@tomashull9805]

@I McHunt Where is the actual answer to Sandford's statement? "6:06 I have to defend something quite 06:08 difficult which is actually 06:10 young earth creationism..." What did I miss, exactly?

[@RedefineLiving]

Tomas Hull Tell me the difference between the isotropic in the anisotropic synchronicity convention for the speed of light. Then tell me why I asked.

[@tomashull9805]

@@RedefineLiving I can tell you the difference you are looking for but proving your assumptions is going to be a problem...not that Einstein's assumptions in his theory of relativity are experimentally verifiable either... There are other theories too ... including geocentrism... with the same problem... 😉

[@tomashull9805]

@ you first

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

The protein switches explanation literally filled my heart with love for our God. It's as if our DNA is the OS and proteins are programs that run on our DNA.....like what??? What an amazing creation we are. Glory to our Lord!

[@johnbean5094]

Would be great for Dr. Tour to present a telecast on each of Dr. Sanford's six books. Jame's 'Science and Faith' podcasts are great in highlighting the role of solid faith in sound scientific research. Wonderful chanllenge to our thinking.

[@williamvallespir5509]

Found this channel I'm hooked I'm an electrical engineer from udm

[@Philisnotretired]

Thank you so much for doing this important interview. Just this past Sunday I referred to each of you in my sermon, not knowing that you knew one another, or that this podcast was forthcoming. Thank you again. God bless you!

[@zygmuntdelarte3417]

I read the book by John Sanford "Genetic Entropy" . Its excellent. Blessings from Poland, dear beloved brothers! P.S. Poland in Europe, not in Maine, USA 😊

[@Kazmir]

Blessings? How did you send these 'blessings'? Mail?

[@JayP7178]

@@Kazmir By your God.

[@RedefineLiving]

Can’t wait!

[@RedefineLiving]

“Fully submitted to the Bible”, amen Dr. Sanford. Isn’t that really what it all boils down to? It is.

[@geertwoort1070]

Both incredible scientists, thanks for your knowledge, wisdom and time sharing with us. Especially this interview with John Sanford is really interesting. I did not know him before you introducing him to your podcast. Thank you James Tour for this amazing initiative! I am a christian and bachelor student Biotechnology at the Wageningen University & Research (Netherlands) myself. These kind of videos help me to articulate my faith in a more scientific way.

[@robertl9812]

Thank God for these guys. They are truly amazing.

[@carlorivera3035]

Thank God. Amen.

[@bobdalton2062]

So EXCELLENT!! thanks Dr. Tour! And Dr. Sanford was just so good on BOTH Theology and Science! Very encouraging to me!!

[@MezztovenShort4DannY]

God bless both these brothers in Christ, Praise God

[@lorelynleisure4048]

God bless all of you who have made this possible! Thank you!

[@vladepast4936]

Brothers! you are doing an outstanding job! Keep posting! God bless you guys!

[@franklinayala4879]

Amazing duo using science to show Gods hand in our existence.

[@Dan.50]

I was a hardcore atheist for 25 years. I thought the "scientists" actually had answers. Turns out they don't know squat. They told us that the universe was full of life, but there is NO evidence. Looks like we are it. So I have to admit now that intelligent design has to be on the table. It's not a great explanation, but it is one of the theories that must be addressed.

[@michelleorr6783]

Thank you for standing firm in the Faith! God bless your work!!

[@RG-ds7ob]

Beautiful, so rich of information. Thank you so much Dr. Tour and Dr. Sanford.

[@claudiaperfetti7694]

Thank you, thank you , thank you sooo much!!! I enjoyed this conversation immensely. May God richly bless you!

[@markrutledge5855]

A mind blowing interview. Wow!

[@msterious8537]

If you consider a Born Again YEC fruitcake spouting the most ridiculous science-free fantasy claims as "mind blowing", sure.

[@longstreet2740]

Your a most amazing believer in Christ ... We met and prayed together at Purdue ( 1981-82 )

[@moriartythethird5709]

That's wild.

[@Bildad1976]

Wow, that was fantastic! Thank You, Lord, for these godly men! Also, yes, Heaven is a wonderful place where some of us will live (albeit temporarily)! More significantly, we (believers) will rule & reign with Jesus here on Earth for one-thousand years during His Millennial Kingdom, and then on the New Earth for the rest of Eternity!

[@joehinojosa24]

Nice to hear a DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE for a Change!

[@mosesgarcia9443]

WOW. GReat discussion. I would love for you to do a roundtable with Professor Rupert Sheldrake, Bret Weinstein Dr. John Sanford. That would be EPICCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tiffanymagee2700]

Yes!! I thought the same thing about Bret Weinstein!! That would be such a great conversation. I pray the Lord makes it happen.

[@sladisciples]

My goodness, it's becoming obvious that our linguistic superlatives are desperately inadequate in describing what God has done and is doing. This is utterly humbling. What a service you guys do for the body of Christ.

[@mattb7069]

This is a great discussion. I am not a young earth creationist, but I am an old earth creationist. My one criticism of Dr. Sanford is that he remarked twice that his decision to be a young earth creationist was a choice to fully submit to the word of God. But since Genesis was not written to be scientifically parsed, if Dr. Sanford were to fully submit to the “wordage” of the Word of God in Genesis, he would be affirming pillars propping up the earth and a flat earth with four corners. One can fully submit to the word of God, and also realize that God was intentionally accommodating himself to an ancient peoples worldview to make himself known as their Creator.

[@Innate75]

Fascinating stuff...Thank you!

[@kimabunuh6762]

Hello from Denmark, im a muslim but have alot of respect for dr Tour 🌷

[@intedominesperavi6036]

Then I think you are not so far away from the Step to Jesus. :) God bless you!

[@kimabunuh6762]

@@intedominesperavi6036 Well i do believe in Jesus peace be upon him as a prophet, not as God or Gods offspring.

[@intedominesperavi6036]

@@kimabunuh6762 That is exactly the kind step I meant. If you read the Gospels you can see on multiple occasions that Jesus said that he was God, and if that wasn't true, he would be an idiot, or a great liar.

[@kimabunuh6762]

It says in the torah that there is only one God. In the new testamen alot of sons are mentioned, but they are not Gods offspring, i have read the bible my friend 😊 David is mentioned as being Gods son, doesnt mean he is Gods offspring, God is no human and he does not beget.

[@intedominesperavi6036]

@@kimabunuh6762 Jesus also isn't God's offspring, he IS God.

[@jindjai]

This is so awesome!

[@solideogloria5553]

thank you both so much, you two bring us to our knees to worship this great an awesome God. so much Christ in you! Hallelujah.

[@davoforrest5]

Praise God, thank you Lord for Dr. John Sanford..

[@edbrackeen5979]

Very well said by Dr. Sanford " all this scientific evidence is secondary to the gospel" No one becomes saved because of science and evidence. Faith in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ is the only way.

[@daleivester7952]

GOD BLESS YOU DR.TOUR

[@SomeChristianGuy.]

Very interesting. Thank you Dr Tour.

[@designed84]

Excellent interview!

[@lenna9132]

I love Dr. Sanford and Dr. Tour, but Dr. Sanford is my first love. God bless them!

[@RedefineLiving]

Hey friend!

[@garysweeten5196]

Group Think or Peer Group Pressure is powerful enough to quell all rational ideas. As a retired Therapist, I see many, many people hold on to irrational, self harmful ideas. By Renewing the Mind according to Romans 12:1-2 is important. Thank you for helping us take every thought captive to the “Mind of Christ”.

[@des711]

Very informative video. Thank you both for your time! Thank God for loving us!!

[@imchris3112]

Wow Dr. James you are awesome Thanks for the podcast and for your time

[@mpohoril]

Thank you for this amazing talk!

[@rayertman]

Thank you Dr. Tour for assembling a dream team of intellectual apologists.

[@goodshorts]

WOW, first question was the best possible question. Amazing video God bless.

[@moriartythethird5709]

What a great discussion.

[@KenJackson_US]

Did you think the papers that Dr. Sanford published in scientific journals were about the Bible, @@Leszek.Rzepecki? Why did the journals publish them?

[@KenJackson_US]

@@Leszek.Rzepecki: _"Your perspective is bizarre.... we should implicitly believe everything that Sanford says, ..."_ Unlike scientists that still have implicit faith in evolution, Dr. Sanford has stepped back and reevaluated the evidence. What he says makes sense, based on the evidence revealed by science. *Leszek:* _"But we should disbelieve other accredited scientists, because they don't accept creationism."_ We should reject those who tenaciously hang onto 19th century science regardless of what 21st century science reveals. *Leszek:* _"The reality is you believe what you want to believe, despite the evidence against it."_ We all do that to a degree. That explains why evolutionists still believe that life popped out of non-life in spite of the science that disproves it. And why they believe mammals evolved from a microbe in spite of the science that disproves it. In fact, I believed evolution _must_ be true for many years. It was only when I actually started _learning_ about molecular biology that I began to understand that evolution *cannot* explain what we observe.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@settledown444: _"THINK Ken."_ That's *excellent* advice, Tim. I do, I do. Let me encourage you to do the same. I haven't had the opportunity to read the book "Genetic Entropy" yet. So I don't really believe or disbelieve it. But _he_ is _not_ the only one to come to the conclusion that damaging mutations accumulate too fast for evolution to work. I encountered it a while ago and the more I _"THINK"_ about it, the more sense it makes.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@settledown444: _"... all you do is regurgitate Sanford's idiotic claims with zero understanding."_ Oh. I guess you're _not_ the Tim H that I know. He never accused me of having _"zero understanding"._ But that _"regurgitate"_ saw is pretty old. When have you _ever_ seen anything I say replicated anywhere else, except under my name? *Tim H:* _"Feel free to explain the last 700 millions years of life recorded in the fossil record ..."_ Simple. The _"fossil record"_ is a *snapshot* of life that existed at the time of the flood. The _"700 million years"_ was a 19th century error that some people refuse to let go of. *Tim H:* _"the Cambrian explosion,"_ The Cambrian explosion is the biggest *proof of creation* in the fossils. How can you possibly go from simple life to most of today's families of life in just it's mythical 10 to 50 million year time period? And all lifeforms are distinct. There's no continuous gradient of change like you would see if life had actually evolved. *Tim H:* _"DA MAGIC NOAH'S FLUD DID IT!"_ It's easy to poke fun, but there's considerable evidence for the flood. Though much of the evidence is twisted to try to make it look like evidence of evolution. The 19th century just won't let go.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@settledown444: _"... ignores the Ediacaran data, ..."_ It's not my job to correct all your errors. I'm not up on that, though I will mention that Wikipedia says, _"The concept of "Ediacaran Biota" is somewhat artificial as it cannot be defined geographically, stratigraphically, taphonomically, or biologically."_ But you put confidence in it. *Tim H:* _"... ignores the 5 major mass extinctions and ..."_ There's been one mass extinction. Since your dates are all in error, it's not hard to stretch one event into five. *Tim H:* _"... how did life go from the original Cambrian families through all those other millions of now extinct species to extant families and species with no evolution?"_ All kinds (which are roughly taxonomic families) were designed and created at once. Minor damaging mutations have resulted in variation within those families. It's not too tough. You assume life keeps getting more complex, but in fact life keeps going extinct. That's why you have all those extinct species. Do you really think extinction helps the case for evolution? Your flippancy reveals a lack of interest in what actually happened.

[@Westrwjr]

GREAT interview!! Definitely invite John Sanford. for the Adam & Eve interview, especially in light of recent books by Josh Swamidass and William Lane Craig (if you haven’t done so already)! I was a young Assistant Professor at SUNY Upstate Medical University in Syracuse when John announced development of the gene gun. There are no molecular biologists of our age (I am now 70 and a retired Emeritus Associate Professor) who doesn’t know of John Sanford and his seminal innovation.

[@nosegrindv4951]

i hope William lane Craig would talk to John Sanford about adam and eve.

[@TheLamboman640]

Why? Does Craig not believe the Biblical narrative of Adam and Eve?

[@steven21736]

@@TheLamboman640 no he is against YEC

[@danerobbable]

it's possible that they'd be worlds apart because it's my opinion that Craig is more filled with himself than what he posits to be from God.

[@emmanuelsebastian9286]

Learn from who knows the Truth. Thanks to you both💜

[@davmatheophilus159]

Fascinating! As the carrier of two DIFFERENT homozygous mutations, and remembering all the verses related to the"end" times preceding the second coming; "1/3 of mankind will die, men will be weak," this is a fantastic witness to the veracity of the Word of God! BTW, the first mutation is present in 1 out of 3 humans!!

[@ictte9127]

Just ordered Dr, Sanford's book, looking forward to reading

[@denverbevins4052]

Thank you, Professor!

[@gardenladyjimenez1257]

Thanks for your scientific work and for sharing this with us!

[@ConstantCompanion]

That book is the most remarkable publication in existence. When you find out what it does in law and what it can do for your right. It is a blooming miracle. Also, there was a woman who recently died, Miss Edna Lewis. She was the granddaughter of a slave. They created a colony in Georgia I think? They grew all their own food. Did all their own meat. The average life span was 120 years. She said that it started dropping when the government forced them to inoculate the animals. She died at 96. She looked 60.

[@macicece2284]

Please have him on again. Would love to see what he have to say about Adam and Eve. This was great!

[@mickknight6963]

Thank you, Dr. Tour! Fascinating as always. And wow, the paper by Gerald Schroeder is awesome, brother!! He even made it to where I could understand it. I'm not a chemist or physicist, only a guy who gave his life to Jesus on the street in New Orleans 38 years ago. But I love science and apologetics, and winning souls to Jesus, and this is very exciting to hear so much to offer those who are seaking skeptics! We have the Answer! Praying for you, and Dr. Sanford!

[@markgrissom]

Outstanding

[@markm8188]

That was great! So thought provoking.

[@JohnMackeyIII]

This is amazing work. There are those that have understood and argued this for decades.. keep up the work so that those who are and have been made reprobate in their thinking might either be awakened by the Holy Spirit through the gospel or their destruction will be to the Glory of God…😮

[@onecowstampede9140]

Its about to get real!

[@brianmurimi1435]

God bless you 🙏

[@williamstewart2727]

"They don't have answers." Fortunately, we do.

[@jimstair6494]

Talk is cheap. Please show your evidence.

[@Mellownius]

@@jimstair6494 seems like the good scientist already did .. did you proof read all his charts and check out his angle ?

[@RedefineLiving]

Jim Stair It helps if you take your ear plugs and blinders off. He literally just did. Face palm!

[@S.Norman]

Thanks

[@stevenrod7]

Love your channel, God Bless! keep it going, the lost and brain washed needs your wisdom and expertise from you and your expert colleagues.

[@hwd71]

I'm rewatching this awesome podcast, I remembered to 👍. ❤✝️🙏✝️⚓✝️❤From 🇦🇺Australia.

[@Lobster_Lars]

Im really grateful for people like James Tour and John Sanford for showing me how creationists are all a bunch of liars. I probably wouldn't be an atheist, if it weren't for people like them.

[@rebanelson607]

Please show time stamps for the lies you are suggesting with evidence to prove that they are lied. Your opinion is just your opinion without any supporting evidence. Who was it that said, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"?

[@ConstitutionalConservation]

Now I can't wait for the Sanford Adam and Eve talk.

[@GodID7]

oh! John Sanford! You sir are awesome!

[@TheOtiswood]

Thank you both for sharing the gifts God gave you.

[@mugdiller2124]

Two warriors.

[@DanielCurrier]

Love John Sanford

[@MutsPub]

Thank you for posting. Please keep up the great work.

[@phillipharris1527]

Very inciteful discussion of the destructive effect of mutations on viruses.

[@walterralls9447]

Wonderful!!!

[@Dominick13777]

Liked it so much I listened to it twice.

[@johnpinckney7269]

There was the Wistar Institute conference on “Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution” (1966). They discussed the tremendous improbability of Darwinian progression.

[@theapexfighter8741]

I would like to see James Tour and Francis Collins in some sort of chat or debate.

[@RG-ds7ob]

Read the book Contested Bones, it is really good. Thank you, Dr. Tour & Dr. Sanford!

[@mcmanustony]

or alternatively, read some actual paleontology.

[@dakilangtanga-greatsimplet5409]

I feel goosebumps. I'm awed ❤❤❤

[@chesterparsnip]

Simpleton is about right then!

[@ambassador_in_training]

Thanks again brother James and John. Darwin and universal common descent will not die easily since it's the only thread the atheists and secularists are holding to before drowning completely. Just realized your names match the sons of Zebedee :)))

[@nattybumppo4151]

Yak’ov and Yochanan! Sons of thunder!

[@eroceanos]

Wow, amazing! I followed the same path: atheist, theistic evolutionist to creationist… old earth or young earth… is still a bit of a doubt… i’m getting more convinced by the young model…

[@KenJackson_US]

_"old earth or young earth… is still a bit of a doubt"_ I agree.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@settledown444? Tim H? Are you the Tim H. that I know? The word _"doubt"_ means I'm _still_ not sure if the earth is young or old. But I'm absolutely 100% certain that no life could ever have emerged from non-life. And I'm absolutely 100% certain that mammals could not have evolved from a microbe. And I'm fairly certain that life could not have even existed for a million years because of the very genetic degeneration discussed in this video. My certainty is based on what I've learned from *SCIENCE,* not the Bible. Does Dr. Sanford need to a basic science education too?

[@KenJackson_US]

Yeah, you're talking kind of like the @@settledown444 that I know. So you think the actual correctness of the facts of science is less important than the word of the authorities that teach them. When new evidence is found, true scientists are supposed to step back and reevaluate. The implications of the accumulation of damaging mutations is one such piece of new evidence. We now know life couldn't have evolved from a microbe. Life is degenerating. With that new information, why haven't scientists stepped back and reevaluated how solid the evidence is that life existed 3.5 billion years ago? And why should we believe scientists that refuse to evaluate the big picture of evidence? Scientists used to believe in the geocentric universe, phlogiston, humoralism system of medicine and eugenics. But given new evidence, they eventually stepped back, reevaluated and rejected each of those. Eventually, scientists will have no option but to reject the notion that life evolved from a microbe.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@settledown444: _"It's a scientific fact the Earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old."_ That's largely based on radiometric dating. I'm not sure if the earth is a few thousand or 4.5 billion years old. The _reason_ for my doubt in the young earth is radiometric dating. But you may not be aware that radiometric dating makes a bunch of *assumptions.* Did you know that? Who was here 4.5 billion years ago to measure the ratio of parent to daughter atoms? Who documented the isolation of rocks that guarantee they weren't contaminated or that water didn't leach out soluble minerals? Who gets to select which of the wide variety of results is the "right" answer? I don't know if we can dismiss the billions of years measurement or not. But one thing we can know for sure, based on *science* is that life can't have evolved. And having come to exist one way or another, it can't exist for millions of years because damaging mutations are degenerative. Sanford is *not* the only one that has pointed this out. *Tim H:* _"It's a scientific fact there is no such thing as 'genetic entropy' ..."_ Dr. Sanford is a respected scientist. You are not. You don't get to decide what a _"scientific fact"_ is and is not. *Tim H:* _"Sanford made a really idiotic claim ..."_ Dr. Sanford is a respected scientist. He explains the science behind his conclusions. You discredit yourself by flippantly dismissing him. *Tim H:* _"No one in science takes his religious blithering seriously ..."_ You're starting to sound shrill.

[@jjbergado4679]

@@settledown444 Hahaha sad fate ? I think your education and intelligence is useless, if you can't see how this earth could be possible without God. And that's what sad is.

[@dolly7639]

Oh to have had men like these in my family!!!

[@GrahameGould]

Please have John back soon to continue this. More on Adam and Eve, and science and the Bible. And I'd love to hear you talk to Jonathan Sarfati about anything!

[@RedefineLiving]

Dr. Sarfati has done a few really good interviews on a channel called Standing For Truth.

[@GrahameGould]

@@RedefineLiving two, I believe. But I'd love to hear what would happen with Dr Tour.

[@albertjackson9236]

Science is all about the facts, "faith" is all about 100% gullibility.

[@gedofgont1006]

So, would it be fair to say you have 100% faith in science?😲

[@judithaefi1979]

have you thought that maybe christianity is simply starting off from a different place?that is,by acknowledging an apparent reality about us human beings,that we are both rational and emotional.yes,we must try to understand reality the best we can through the data of our five senses,but we must also do so through our ability to love and be loved..so maybe a wholly rational worldview is ignoring the fact that we aren't wholly rational creatures?

[@gedofgont1006]

@@Leszek.Rzepecki If only what you've stated were true. Your faith in the infallibility of science is actually rather touching, however naive it may be. Just like any other aspect of human endeavour, science is every bit as subject to corruption, bias and political expediency; perhaps even more so, given the stakes involved. Time for a reality check, old boy!

[@gedofgont1006]

@@Leszek.Rzepecki Are you familiar with the Popperian notion of falsifiability? If you aren't, I strongly suggest you look into it. Evolution is a fundamentally unfalsifiable idea. It doesn't even have enough science in it to qualify as a theory; it's essentially a series of dogmatic assertions, based on a whole raft of a priori assumptions. I'm not suggesting that the God of the Christian bible is the only alternative, by the way, just that intelligence and purpose being fundamental to nature needn't be dismissed as quackery any longer. Try the recent work of Michael Denton, for an illustration of what I'm getting at. I particularly recommend The Fitness of Nature for Mankind, right here on KZbin. At the very least, it should fill you with a sense of awe and wonder.🤝

[@gedofgont1006]

@@Leszek.Rzepecki I think I'd rather leave you to your overly confident, highly faith-based, dogmatic certitude.

[@lenna9132]

Thank you, Dr. Sanford and Dr. Tour for your work.