The Scoring Mishap at Darlington Leaves DBC Speechless | Door Bumper Clear

[@garycraw2]

This show needs to be uncensored, that missed bleep gave me extra life

[@christophermonroe2055]

They missed one F bomb. 😂😂😂

[@psinclairjr]

"Whatever speed the 9 was going" that is HILARIOUS

[@zcams]

😂😂😂

[@kaylawhelan7637]

Hilarious and true.

[@LanceCorpralDavidS]

I love this podcast. It relates so much to what we have to deal with as fans

[@ridinwithwheelz188]

There is an absolute truth right there

[@louislepage5111]

Me too , it's the most credible platform for NASCAR 😊

[@kristenwhite2701]

Freddie is gonna blow. If he didn’t have headset on we would see steam coming out of his ears. I love Brett laughing at him.This is “in the wreck” drinking game.

[@teresagoodwin7458]

Kristen White YOUR COMMENT IS SPOT ON AND HYSTERICALLY FUNNY 🤣🤣 Thanks for making my day much better 🤣🤣💞🤗💞🙏🏻🏁🏆🏁

[@donniechristian8467]

So as far as the wreck wallace is talking about i gotta say i'm a Chase Elliott fan but Chase did lose positions. He was against a car infront of him i think a car was under him and he was in the wall. Pains me to agree with Wallace but he actually does have a good argument

[@jeremyswanson6513]

You guys missed an F bomb at 3:40

[@bryonkidder6199]

3 out of 4 and counting...lol

[@jolenew9595]

I doubt the FCC fines them. They cuss all of the time. They only use the beeper occasionally anyway! Lol!

[@ChampaBayBeast]

Had so many they couldn't keep up 😂

[@cliffbeckwith4019]

I heard it, I guess they missed that one.

[@kevinoertl774]

I heard it lmao

[@teresagoodwin7458]

This podcast was absolutely PRICELESS 🤣🏁🏆🏁 I love y'all and love this podcast!! Y'all always make my day better no matter the content!! Y'all deserve awards just for stating your individual cases and points of view!!😂😂😂

[@davestewart6836]

I thought the field was “frozen” the instant that caution comes out.

[@ak102986]

That is correct.

[@smudent2010]

Frozen from last scoring loop, yes

[@ridinwithwheelz188]

Yes, Harvick‘s in car Camera showed he was in the wreck. Get them Freddy you get him.😂😂😂😂😂

[@billhall1555]

At the local dirt tracks, the rule is usually, if you stop on the track for the wreck you are sent to the back, as long as you keep rolling you keep your spot regardless of damage

[@chriswilgus4752]

Thank you. Pretty simple.

[@bcrossphotos]

Your argument will have every car trying to speed through wrecks, that can’t be safe either.

[@johnhopkins6565]

Well, you can either be safe, or accurate. Can’t have both.

[@brandonpennington1983]

I ain't gone lie Chase got lucky on the starting spots, I was confused too yall.

[@sadiejustin]

Freddie on the chip!

[@chriswilgus4752]

All my years of racing this is one that really is in the grey area . Its a simple issue they make complicated .

[@SHHJ1395]

Wow. First I think. Also I thought we weren’t supposed to have errors like this anymore with all the tech.

[@IntriguedGaming]

For some weird reason all these guys are right. Some really valid points made, great discussion!

[@whiteyshark5826]

Brad is my boy, but he was in the wreck. I think Harrison would have put on a show if he got to start up front after the wreck.

[@bcrossphotos]

How much damage proves you were in the wreck? Seems to me this has happened in the past, this can’t be the first time a damaged car has been given their spot back.

[@johnhunt-yt1dp]

chase was against the wall nose up against a wrecking car. he was completely involved in the wreck.

[@chrisrogers3175]

Never had all these problems back in the day, to many rules

[@frsty5783]

Agreed Freddie! But anyhoo...Jesse Love! I've watched the kid since the Madera Racing days/daze. He was (still is), a young kid earning his chops at that time and was moved from this start to a bit greener pasture. So have others that came out of this series of stock car racing (names you know now in ARCA, Trucks, Xfinity). The success and discipline/training that is given to these drivers in this series is amazing. Kenny Shepard has done and still(!) does a seriously top shelf job - if folks don't know about it, you should check it out.

[@perryearle7419]

I guess Nascar can't just say we made a mistake- we were wrong.

[@1531thejohnnyboy]

First time?

[@dakanaka5570]

This is the best racing talk show

[@zcams]

A few drivers were saying the same thing

[@GaryWagers]

The bleeper broke at 3:41 I think. lol I think the title is a little misleading, though. "Speechless" isn't exactly what I'd call the reaction here.

[@mattrzewnicki6343]

I dont think it really matters which way they decide to place cars in line, but they need to be 100% consistent and 100% even for all spots. And they should have signs for teams to see for the DVP list. At least one place, meaning pit road and/or spotter stand. Pit road officials should be told to instruct teams as well. There's more than enough officials to be able to do that. Spotter stand can be as easy as a tv that displays car numbers that are currently on the DVP list. All a spotter would have to do then is look at the screen if they were close to the wreck. It's an easy solution to implement.

[@chaselewis100]

Go back to 08 Bristol when Denny missed a shift and Jeff Burton passed both Bowyer and Harvick after the caution had already waved

[@HydroHollic]

It should be determined based on the car's ability to cross the start finish line, whether they keep the position or not, after a yellow is thrown. If you are unable to make it back to the start finish line, or are deemed to be part of the cause of the caution, you shouldn't get your spot back.

[@amberspears565]

I completely agree with you. I don't think you should be sent to the back just bc you were bumped or hit...as a result of the wreck. If your car is on and you weren't the cause of the caution.

[@MillerHighLife607]

Jesse is on dbc?! Let's gooooo!

[@johnhaas2523]

Yes Brett got him on the show

[@djzigg3284]

3:40 Missed one, bleeper LOL

[@eldiablort1461]

or, hear me out, you just go by how they got to the finish line. CRAZY.

[@curtisellis4505]

That's "racing to the yellow." That's the way it use to be. They changed it because drivers won't lift in an accident. They floor it in an accident trying to gain positions. It's just dangerous

[@smudent2010]

@@curtisellis4505 They changed it to get medical vehicles able to roll right away instead of waiting for everyone to get to the line

[@curtisellis4505]

@@smudent2010 yup. That's another reason

[@andytn6507]

Easy fix.... Bring back race back to the Start/finish line like the good ole days!!

[@johnhaas2523]

There will never be racing back to the line

[@andytn6507]

@@johnhaas2523 oh, I know

[@anitagarrison6916]

😮 I did not know that as soon as wrecked you are on the DVP 😮. I thought it started after you attempted to fix the car and are back on the track. 🤯

[@CamMacMastermusic]

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[@ColoradoCarrolls]

LOL... You guys missed a F-BOMB at 3:40

[@jmcmotorsportstv]

This conversation sounds just like me and my brothers lol

[@BenMyattt]

Exactly what it is. Freddy wants free spots. Makes so much since lol

[@larryanderson2766]

If you’re backwards or sideways at a reasonable speed in the scoring loop you get your spot back?

[@taylorbertrim7625]

Yea "they are wrecking behind them checking up" is a term. That's a thing is don't brake too much and get ran over.... You're in the wreck.

[@jordanbraun1122]

He said it right at 4:00 he drove down to the apron well you were so far back you had the chance to miss it. The cars that waded up in the behind the melee didn’t have the chance to dodge the wreck.

[@chochoobaca55]

Doesn't matter. Just like Freddie said, if you aren't in the wreck you can get those spots back. They put cars *in the wreck* in front of the drivers that MISSED THE WRECK.

[@Vilakazi]

NASCAR is a competition, not a participation awards ceremony. If you get wrecked then tough luck. If you were so far back to dodge the wreck then good on you, you won the survival of the fittest.

[@jamesheiden696]

Love How Drivers Say Love what I Do-Freedom...Rules Rules n More Rules.

[@aidenkirker]

Oh the missed F Bomb brought a smile to my face 😂

[@tonywalker8421]

you missed at least one f-bomb! 😂

[@jameshunt649]

I like this podcast !

[@alexgiangreco3754]

Yall missed a bleep lmaooooo

[@chairb0rnranger]

We needed these boys pounding natty lights before this convo happened

[@chevy8018]

After watching the replay Brad hit 3 cars in the wreak. The what an idiot has to be TJ for thinking they weren't in it at all.

[@cracklecracklebaybay5612]

I love TJ, but DAMN he argues like every stripper I ever worked with as a DJ.

[@donnariccelli3538]

It used to be that positions were frozen as soon as the caution came out. Why did that change? Seems to me that would fix all this dibate.

[@3Polenzmotorsports]

TJs right about slowing down for a wreck is not getting in the wreck. You cant promote throttling up to maintain or gain position. Also these guys act like that's easy to determine well you better have 36 cameras on every car to make sure someone blended right lol they say common sense they should use some

[@craigparrish3582]

If track is clear . Should be able to race back to start finish line. For position. Scoring loops sux. As far as determining winner of race some times.

[@chrisodie2467]

Don't like freddy but he's absolutely right..don't like Bubba but they screwed him out of a chance to win..they both should be livid

[@tatesmith9085]

sure Censaored the Swords but not the Fword from Freddie XD i honestly would prefer no censors but

[@jwil5389]

DBC is the best NASCAR show!

[@raymondcarroll3876]

They got their spots back, because none of them EVER called a garage door pull rope ,a noose.

[@johnbrohl1709]

Here's the problem with the the caution flag the field is supposed to be Frozen at the moment of caution to me that's how people involved in the wreck maintain their position unless the end up coming down Craig road or cannot maintain any speed

[@jaedog53]

This is a great argument and so I'm surprised nascar doesn't fine every one of you $750,000 for actions detrimental to stock car racing, and force you to attend sensitivity training

[@seen48]

If the 4 ran into the 6 how is the 4 in the wreck and not the 6? Come on TJ.

[@DDD-us6uu]

Your sport has problems when there is so much confusion NASCAR can't get their own rules straight. 🏁

[@nolann2763]

Whoops, missed a bleep at 3:41 😅

[@shanewardesspeedwayvideosr8449]

Missed a bleep at 3:40 lol

[@mdhsyracuse]

1. If these guys think the finish at Darlington was a mess, I urge them and everyone to watch the finish of this year's F1 race in Australia. I'd take the Darlington results over that mess any day. 2. There is no perfect solution to this problem. Everyone agrees racing back to the line is the most fair and dangerous way to determine a finish. It sucks, but safety should always be the priority. Maybe go back to the previous completed lap instead. If you go back through the years in Cup you'll see some big time hits due to drivers racing back to the line especially at Superspeedways. Maybe ban racing back to the flag at larger tracks? Again, there's no right answer.

[@dennispalmer6007]

When the wreck happens caution should be flown. At that point no one should pass . The position at that point should be were you are. If you’re in a wreck should not determine your position. If a car gets loose in front of you and you have to checkup, sucks to be you because those cars that passed you are now ahead of you.

[@zbutler111]

It's interesting to compare a driver to a spotter. A driver says "we did this" and "we finished the race" and a spotter says "I hit the wall" and "my car was wrecked". Not calling anyone out, it's just interesting to hear.

[@robertirwin8892]

IF a car is in the wreck like some were and DON'T pit for repairs are they on the DVP clock or not? I think this is a fair question.

[@kylemcneal7856]

Just noticed she's got the cutest brown eyes

[@Gforcebond]

They thought they have problem now imagine a big wreck with 3 to go at Dega trying to figure out who's where yea good luck with all that. I mean there shouldn't be any judgement calls for Nascar to make in these scenarios they were either in the wreck or not.

[@darthhull85]

Always enjoy a missed censoring

[@Timmichanga361]

They black flagged Josh Williams for not being fit to be on racetrack and it lead to his "Park It" suspension. How can the Cup cars involved in wrecks not be treated equally?? Is NASCAR saying those cars weren't at risk of losing debris on the track?

[@pavabo]

Forgot to bleep at 3:40

[@barryegert5436]

Hell Yeah missed a bleep!!!

[@michealmjh]

The time it takes to score based visual would make the caution period an hour long.

[@doomusrlc]

Anyone remember that Talladega race Sadler won but Poole crossed the line first? Reminds me of that BS.

[@2jsalomon]

They brought this up in the vid lol

[@doomusrlc]

@@2jsalomon yep, I made the comment before that part lol

[@AT502]

The 9 car is living rent free in their heads.

[@kriswysong6038]

You missed an f word from Freddie around 3:50 lol

[@Grim_Prospects]

This wasn't a problem when racing back to the line is a thing. Maybe there's something between that and what they are doing now to come to a solution.

[@spacecalander]

If you continue through the wreck and kept going you are good, can't pass under caution

[@DewkChronic]

Look at the big brain on TJ Majors.

[@JB511391]

If you keep moving and don't get spin out or anything who cares if you were in the wreck. Shouldn't be penalized if you were just barely tapped or something

[@MattGoelz]

Put a halfway line across the track and race back to the half lap

[@silentbob3208]

3:40 Whoopsie

[@lacosanostra20]

Some one forgot to bleep an f bomb at 3:40

[@SmokeShow9969]

Kinda like Carl at Daytona that year…. Nascar went stupid and I didn’t blame him for parking the car

[@craigparrish3582]

I agree with Freddie. Maybe nascar will help yall out next race .

[@chriswilgus4752]

All cars have transponders, that should show the truth . Nascar makes rookie mistakes alot.

[@kennethhemphill9447]

DA must run in the whole bunch with the #6 bunch, cause they were in the wreck

[@anitagarrison6916]

Who's the kid? Nevermind, I went to the website and saw. Jesse Love, right?

[@sanityends4442]

Maybe adjust the scoring loops to less of them?

[@willowspicewood]

It matters if the safety crew comes out

[@MudMonsterRacing4]

Why don't they just freeze the field when the caution flag flies? Who cares who's in the wreck if your car is drivable as long as you didn't cause the caution.

[@chaselewis100]

Same for that Burton boy

[@emperorburton]

He got screwed the most. He should have restarted 4th and then 3rd on the last two restarts.

[@justlucky8254]

I wish each of these clips said who's in them when they have a guest. I have no idea who the kid is at the table. Is he a driver? Somebody's kid? Are they doing some type of "big brother" mentoring program?

[@johnhaas2523]

The guest is Jesse Love Jr.

[@rileyfair5]

Someone's upset 😂😂😂

[@jmccoy96jm]

Should be considered in the wreck if you lose control of your racecar. Easy. Case closed. At any point if you lose control of your racecar clearly you are wrecking. However you can hit something and that's just a hit. It's not a wreck.

[@ateddybear1392]

Eh, I think as long as you keep it straight you’d stay where you were. Heck this isn’t even the most egregious example of this. The 600 last year had a massive wreck at the end and somehow Chastain stayed 2nd with a totally junked front end

[@sleezyimpalass]

NASCAR dropped the ball hard on this one, plain and simple. Freddie is 100% right.

[@Jpilgrim30]

Nobody said you did anything wrong but don’t be mad that you’re behind someone that was trapped inside and behind cars where they couldn’t throttle up and go around because cars like yours behind them are trapping them in and you get put behind them. It’s like being stuck behind a slow car in traffic. Even though you’re first in line behind them the lane is going to be clear for the cars behind you first and they are going to go around no matter how bad you want to get over. We’re all competitive and we know that these guys answers would change based on how it affected their driver in the situation.

[@jolenew9595]

Who's the 14 year old boy in the middle? LOL!

[@joshstrickland3886]

Freddie cry's as much as bubbles there a good match

[@joshuapittman9235]

How about the real Nascar officiating misjustice.... why was the #1 car awarded the lead for jumping a restart????

[@johnhaas2523]

They said it was a clean restart

[@kailaniandi]

Speechless?😂