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@PittBlu213Ай бұрын
The path of the force free community should be called how to make a teenager the worst possible child in the world. No spanking or training just uneducated opinions.
@DamePiglet26 күн бұрын
@@PittBlu213 absolutely. On the other hand, the shock /prong collar method is useless for smaller dogs because dead dogs can't obey & overuse of force creates either a terrified or enraged dog. Gotta have balance in everything in life
@PittBlu21326 күн бұрын
@@DamePiglet incorrect, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the technology used in e collars. Let me start by saying you should never use cheap tools and when it comes to e/prong collars there are only a select few brands that are considered acceptable by balanced dog trainers. They are exactly the same as a tense machine used by chiropractors. I promise if you have never used an e collar on yourself you think it's much worse than it is. Also good e collers have many levels the lowest of which you and I can't even feel. Similarly, prong collars have small sizes and removable links making them perfect for any size dog. Now you mentioned "overuse of force" which is an opinionated statement that differs from person to person. I know in my program we use the lowest possible level that is motivating enough to the dog to make it less likely that the dog display the negative behavior in the future. Listen if you don't want to use a certain tool than don't use it. What's most is you have control of your animals.
@judymiller5154Ай бұрын
as much as possible, I give a command that tells the dog what to DO rather than a "no" that only tells her what NOT to do. Instead of "no" I use: off for not jumping, drop it for not picking up or eating debris, come for not chasing the cat, out for not being so close (begging for food, too close to a vehicle or mower etc), wait for not bolting thru a door or gate. That keeps our interactions cheerful and purposeful. Then, when I sharply say "no" in a gruff tone it has more impact.
@samwdavisАй бұрын
I have watched THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of hours of dog training videos (not an exaggeration), and yes, I'm a dog trainer with experience of what works and what doesn't. I want to tell you.... this video is EXCEPTIONAL, absolutely EXCEPTIONAL in understanding TRUE dog psychology that is a fundamental requirement to successful dog training, especially behavioral modification (what NOT to do). When I say exceptional, that's not hyperbole. You truly have a gift for communicating concepts that are rare in the dog training industry and I wish you the very best in your endeavors to makes dogs' and dog owners' lives better. I look forward to delving into more of your material. Unfortunately, the majority of people try to put themselves in the dog's place, humanizing the dog, when the dog's most primal nature and instincts are NOTHING like that of a human. If they TRULY love the dog, then they will learn how dogs feel and think and THEN put themselves in the dog's place, not from THEIR perspective, but from the dog's perspective, and then, and only then, will they be able to be the leader that the dog needs and desires,, and both the dog AND more importantly, the owner, can live happy lives together.
@canine_coachАй бұрын
True! Great video.
@user-lv2sb1nx3t20 күн бұрын
Excellent comment and I agree 100%.
@mumblealice17Ай бұрын
Yes 👏 I have met so many people that don't have boundaries with either their dogs or their children and they always have issues. Please teach your dog boundaries!
@mnj640Ай бұрын
And your kids!
@canine_coachАй бұрын
And your kids too. Most people who are horrible at raising kids, also suck at training dogs tbh
@ShamanicSavantАй бұрын
I do everything backwards according to a lot of dog trainers, but I always end up with a friendly well mannered dog that I trust more than anything else in this world. I give them a taste of freedom right away and teach them it comes at the cost of listening to me whether they like it or not. If there's one thing dogs love more than any treat, toy, or praise... it's freedom. It's a lot of work staying one step ahead of them trying to outwit and out maneuver you at first, but the payoff is a dog you can trust in any situation. I make it very clear when I'm pleased with their behavior, and equally clear when I'm not, because what they need most when learning is clear concise communication. It's OK to let your dog know when you're upset with them, as long as you balance it out by letting them know when you're happy with them. They understand emotions a lot better than words. When you get a puppy, the words "no" and "leave it" are going to be the most popular words in your vocabulary the first 6 months. If they're not, you're going to have a dog that doesn't give a flying f**k about you or anything you say. Not only that, the words have to mean something. Never give a command you can't enforce with appropriate consequences, or you're just training bad habits. Part of building your relationship is earning their respect, and you don't do that by letting them walk all over you. You'll end up compensating for it by restricting your dog's (and your own) freedom, because nothing is more frustrating and embarrassing than your dog completely blowing you off in front of other people. From your dog's perspective, either you're in charge or they are... they don't follow incompetent leaders like we do :)
@primalperry5667Ай бұрын
"Boundaries aren't barriers" OMG I love that statement. I've had that discussion a few times with people since I don't just let my dogs run off and do whatever they want, whenever they want until they reliably behave and have a moderate obedience level. I do allow them to play and have fun and do whatever they want within reason a very high percentage of the time. The obedience, reliability, and clear understanding of behavior that is not allowed is what allows my dogs the freedom and full lives that they get.
@yagovila705229 күн бұрын
I totally agree, but unfortunately many people buy this stupid mantra from pure positive scam that dogs, and kids, should never be frustrated, told off, corrected and similar bullshit and we all know the outcome of that.
@shell88ishАй бұрын
What a great way to explain the power of “Balanced” dog training. Great common sense.
@OZMAN2610Ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant way of explaining it. The worrying thing is you don't need to be a dog expert to know this already! Surely it's common sense
@VrajaVilasiniАй бұрын
Unfortunately common sense isn’t so common
@jzr976Ай бұрын
Such fantastic and common sense advice. I worked hard to give my dog (now passed, my beloved Louis) a good life through responsible training and socialisation, and he was beautifully behaved and could go everywhere with me. His “world” was as large and diverse as mine, and I am so proud of that. There was one point when he was about three or four when he started to seem down emotionally. I consulted a dog trainer, who suggested that because the intense phase of puppy training was now over, he was bored. She suggested we keep going with lifelong training games, so that’s what we did, and he absolutely loved it. She helped me learn to think in terms of his fulfilment, which is such a lovely and important perspective in this video. 🙏💛
@petebrooks1223Ай бұрын
Thanks for your confirmation. I have a 3 yr old red Doberman girl, Lucinda. She is a covid save and had no training. She lived with another high energy dog with no rules. I'm now working with her towards a true service dog. Dogs are pack animals and I am the Alpha,boss, what ever the name....the Bus driver. I know how a pack works and have raised her as I would a child. No means now and come here is not a question. Good parents know this. Keep up the great work.
@GeekGamer666Ай бұрын
I've found it incredibly interesting to discover that pack theory/alpha theory is actually flawed science and bad assumptions. Also, it was based around wolves who are pack animals, and not dogs. Dogs actually aren't true pack animals and the assumption that they are is because of the assumption that the only reason dogs exist is because we domesticated them from wolves. It's probable that they domesticated themselves, the same way that cats did, once they discovered that food and security were assured. Raising them as you would children is a great idea though because they're meant to have the intellectual capacity of around a 3 year old child and are highly social, same as humans, which I think is why it's become such a beneficial relationship over the centuries.
@petebrooks1223Ай бұрын
@@GeekGamer666 Do you have a pet?
@AM-ou1wtАй бұрын
It's remarkable how 'No" actually is understood when the same tone is used over and over. It gets their attention to disrupt the behavior. Just recently been employing the word around grooming and find my pup responds to this more than treat rewards. I don't want to have to constantly manage my dog. I eventually want him to make choices that help him be safe and happy and give him a larger world to explore.
@ProgressivelyyouАй бұрын
When I first got my puppy and dove into the world of dog training, I started off as a positive only dog mom... I quickly realised that was not going to work with a Husky/GSD/Pitbull mix (send help lol). Establishing clear boundaries and consequences (reasonable ones) was more than needed. Only then she started listening (Im still struggling, because she is a wild one, but nowhere near as much as before).
@SaroDogTrainingАй бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I don't think that dog owners have a hard time saying NO to their dogs. I think they are willing to say "NO" but they are not clear about how to say it. They are not even clear when or how to say "YES" to their dogs. They either share too much affection with treats or they use a shock collar (think of using it), yell at the dog, or use harsh methods thinking that they are correcting the dog. As a dog trainer myself (and maybe you feel the same way too) my job is to clarify it for the dog owners to teach them to realize what are the correct ways and the wrong ways of expressing these notes to the dogs.
@gvybinАй бұрын
I just discoverd your channel and this video is spot on. My 1.5 y old German sheppard at first couldn't be trained in a regular dog school. Fast forward , one on one off leach training with a reputable trainer in a ballanced training program , teaching him bounderies in a very clear manner, now being 1.5 years only, he ALWAYS walks off leach every single day, never hunts other dogs unless allowed to play, cats,cars,bicycles,birds....name it. He can be with other dogs. Every walk is a fun training for him and me. He is 80% free to do what a dog wants to do on that walk , because he will for the other 20% do exactly what I ask him in a playfull manner. And I mean I am 100% sure of him to do as he is told, when he is told even him being at a distance of 20m or more. Be it come to me, lay down on the spot,wait for me.... And he is a calm, yet playfull and content dog that is being liked by people in the neigbourhood ( even him being a full grown 40kg black long haired german sheppard, so a bit intimidating at first for some)
@canine_coachАй бұрын
Thats why you should teach the "leave it" command as a base, before sit and down. And to build a positive and rewarding association with verbal correction.
@randimichelle2810Ай бұрын
Finally…someone who makes sense and seems to appreciate the spectacular partnerships people can have with their doggos. Their pasts do not dictate their futures…nor yours. Correct. Shape. Connect. Repeat. ❤❤❤ Dogs are the best.
@rustyhowe3907Ай бұрын
Amazing how far learning "no" will take one, I wish more people understood this.
@jennylivesey3518Ай бұрын
Teaching dog boundaries is so important for the dogs to be safe as well as your own safety and well being. No is a great word also they come to learn the difference in tones of no as well. What I think is also important is understanding their needs my dog loves good walks but also needs a good run directly after in an enclosed field with the scent with various wild animals who have been in including deer when gates have been left open and enjoying being a dog who needs to track all those lovely scents keeps him going for at least 45 - 60mins in a safe environment. He’s a Doberman who loves to chase, leap over long grass it’s a pleasure to watch. Some days he prefers that we play ball with him pig in the middle keeps us healthy too. We leave when his royal highness feels he has had enough and walks to the gate to say home now lol..
@lamira10Ай бұрын
Brilliant! THANK YOU! I couldn't agree with you more about everything you explain. I wish you could have gone into a bit more depth though because I wonder how many less experienced with dog/annimal care viewers will be lift with the impression that all they need now is to say "no" and all problems will be solved, will be well ."No" isn't a magic wand: good, consistent, clear, compassionate training is a magic wand. And HOW one delivers the "no" is equally crucial: most people's knee-jerk reaction is to do so with anger, frustration, with high emotion. People need to gain control of themselves and their emotions before training/interacting any animal. "No" delivered in anger will ruin a relationship. "No" delivered as information, with clarity and without emotional baggage will establish a boundary and enhance the trusting relationship. IMHO......
@lagottessaАй бұрын
The whole key, in my view, is the HOW. As in HOW to teach the boundaries and rules. That's what so many people are afraid of, because they believe that that teaching includes anger, violence, pain, frustration. And so they stay away from it altogether because they are afraid their dog won't love them or become afraid of them. Which may indeed be the case if you do it wrong. So to show dog owners how to teach the no and teach the boundaries in a calm and clear manner, in a manner that builds nothing but trust and loyalty, and of course has nothing to do with fear or pain, I believe is crucial. Looking forward to more videos like these! (Btw the Grandma quote is a gem! :-))
@beksc9209Ай бұрын
Yup. A brief, approriate punishment with a slip, prong, or remote collar works well IF communication is clear. The dogs doesnt like the discomfort, but he is not injured at all--he simply learns what not to do. And many things that he should not do can be taught without adding punishment, such as by putting him on place, etc. The dog learns to avoid punishment and respect the boundaries, whereupon he lives a free and happy life inside them.
@GoannaUKАй бұрын
Great video - well explained. The power of 'NO' is that once what it means is established it does not need to be used often. It's a rarity now with my dog, but it saved me a lot of issues with a rescue Staffy of mid age.
@AsuraPhoenixАй бұрын
I JUST got a dog, and i feel lost because Otto has my feedback for most of his day and this is my biggest goal. As long as we make the connection with "no" and "here boy" i would shape my daily task around this guy. Get him his freedom while i take care of my responsibilities. Then we hang out in the world. Wish me luck 😅
@beksc9209Ай бұрын
Excellent video! The lighthouse example is great!!
@benthompson8683Ай бұрын
This video is *chef's kiss* . I keep trying to pull out a quote from the final few minutes to represent your philosophy on training, but its like trying to use rain drops to quench my thirst instead of drinking from a resevoir filled by the storm. You've convinced me that the right boundaries can unlock a dog's world.
@katscraftАй бұрын
You are so right. I see great dog trainers, but all of them are so different. It is quite confusing, especially when somebody would like to become a dog trainer.
@allisonlevy616Ай бұрын
I am an animal care specialist that works with last chance dogs through dog training and massage therapy for aging dogs and horses. Powerful video.
@PaulaDTozerАй бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you for teaching humans that they need to let a dog be a dog. This seems to escape most novice trainers (everyone that owns a dog is a novice trainer in this way) because, truly, they haven’t done their research and insist that their dog is a furry human. Even then they indulge every doggy vice by being purely positive. Dogs need rules and parameters. Dogs need purpose, aka a job. The issue stems from their humans not taking up their own purpose as a loving leader, and actually creating an environment where dogs thrive…not as an accessory to the human, but as a living, breathing animal with needs that are different from humans. As I view it, creating a situation where dogs who are indulged in this manner creates instability. The dog doesn’t get to “dog.” A dog wasn’t ever meant to be a human. Seems simple, right? But it’s tragic, because it’s not the dog’s problem.
@dogzentrainingАй бұрын
The positive-only community vs the traditional community just feels like left vs right in politics. They criticise the extreme views of their opponent without the self awareness to realise their own views are equally as extreme, just at the opposite end of the spectrum. Nature is balanced. Best way to understand dogs is to actually listen to them. What a great video!
@ShamanicSavantАй бұрын
But listening means paying attention to them, and the force free activists are too busy spewing nonsense on social media while their dog sits in a crate :)
@chloeindigoАй бұрын
I don't think positive training is extreme tho. I think lazy training is. It's not about never using no, it's about not jumping to it without looking at the numerous other options. Anyway only Americans use crates, that's not even part of dog ownership and is considered cruel here outside of travel training so it absolutely isn't part of force free training outside the US. Positive or force free training isn't about avoidance it's about intentional exposure. In other words you notice a dog has a trigger? You remove it from situations where that trigger comes up unexpectedly (for you) so that it doesn't practice exactly the wrong response and then you immediately start working on controlled exposure to the trigger so that it can be in those uncontrolled situations asap again. If people are just avoiding triggers they're not doing any training style. Force free/positive only also isn't about never using force, it's about limiting force to emergency situations so that the other more enriching ways of working with different situations are what's being used the rest of the time because that's better for the dogs well rounded development. It also means when you do say no you don't really have to raise you voice or show much displeasure for the dog to take notice, because when you overuse something - a reward or a reprimand - it losses it's effect and the signal has to get bigger and bigger. I've seen this happen. I do use some force with my dog, I'm working through ptsd so I can't control my emotions enough to have not exposed her to any reprimand at all but she very quickly desensitizes and her listening gets worse of reprimand is overused. She stops trusting me and starts seeking out thrills that get her into trouble because she's not getting as much fulfilment through staying near me. That's the situation most people use ever increasing consequences in. Instead I refocus on the relationship and try to reset where we're at. It I had the capacity and facility to do entirely positive reinforcement I would. And that's the major issue, actually, is that it does take more time and planning. And if you don't have that, some shortcuts aren't going to destroy your dog. But that isn't any kind of argument about the effectiveness of force free training, only an acknowledgement that many people will struggle to do it all the time especially when not starting with a young pup in a planned way. However, simply avoiding exposure to things is not what positive training teaches, that's a huge misunderstanding you all seem to have. That's what lazy training looks like. Just like how in the aversive crows, using aversives any more than necessary is also lazy training at the other end. That being said, if you are going to use aversives I believe there's an argument for at first using a slightly heavier signal than necessary (not continuously using this) I'm certain scenarios that are easy to learn because it means the dog will potentially be exposed to the aversive less often once it knows what it means (an example would be something really simple like recall). However this will result in a dog that is either less resilient or more shut down, one of the two. There is always a sacrifice in the personality of the dog and it's relationship to you and the world when using aversives. Force free training is about limiting those sacrifices as much as possible and it is better training. It's just that not all people can manage it all the time. So the only purpose of discussion around which aversive techniques work best is looking at the next best thing when positive reinforcement can't be used. For instance, I use an ecollar (vibration setting) to make self reinforcing behaviours that I can't totally control less self reinforcing. Mostly, this means bad play behaviours my dog picks up from playmates. She is a bully breed, so if she isn't acting better than those around her she will be demonised and we won't be able to go to the park. Dogs learn play style from their peers and it's also self reinforcing. The force free approach would be to organise play dates with dogs of appropriate play style especially during early development, keep things short enough the dogs stay in a listenning place and are able to be distracted if things get too rough. However I got my dog as a 6 month rescue, we live in a van because we can't afford rent, and I moved cities just after I got her so I didn't know anyone else to organise things with. She needs to use public parks to run around and socialise because I don't have any space. I did initially try to get other owners to intercept their dogs better if they were doing things I didn't want my dog to learn but I literally got yelled at by people (obviously I don't mean actual aggression, people do intercept that AND we leave). The vibration collar gives her feedback that helps her adapt her play style to the dog in front of her and I do so with the knowledge that mother dogs use tellings off with puppies from about 10 weeks to teach them play manners/not to bully eachother, so learning manners is something they're meant to go through. It's necessary because these are large areas and sometimes they've run across a field, if I were to go and give the dog a time out the behaviour would be over by the time I'm there, confusing the dog and associating play stopping with being near me causing chases and damaging the relationship. They also move in and out of recallable spaces (yes I conciously try to keep her in that space) and recallable distances. So I may not be able to give verbal feedback about behaviour all the time but do have emergency recall for ending the play if needed. This has all been necessary because of my circumstance but none of it is an argument against force free trainings effectiveness. Whatever you're all saying about crates makes no sense.
@canine_coachАй бұрын
Its all about a healthy balance of pleasure and discipline.
@yagovila705229 күн бұрын
@@ShamanicSavant100% agree, there is no pure-positive, force-free bullshit in real life. Most, if not all, of these pure-taliban-positive people only know about theory and are lecturing everybody else about how should be the "respectful"training but they never put their theories to the test, why?, easy!, they don't even trust their system themselves. Because deep inside they feel that's unnatural, dogs don't behave that way, even dogs set boundaries and correct, sometimes harshly, to each other and don't get traumatized because of that. These people, and animal right activists as well, only care about themselves, about being cool, about feeling good themselves but they don't really give a shit about dogs or animals, because they don't even know how dogs and animals live or think, they only want to force their warped IDEOLOGY to everybody else, and the living proof are those idiots that want their dogs go vegan.
@WreckItRolfe3 сағат бұрын
Only one of these positions is extreme
@alexjames-music6271Ай бұрын
Your recent video format is champion.
@monicawilde710729 күн бұрын
So good. Wisdom for human and dog happiness alike. Functional/appropriate boundaries = freedom
@JeweliaUKАй бұрын
Great video with superb analogies. I have absolutely no problem telling my adolescent pup NO. She responds really well to it.
@LilFoxyCosplayАй бұрын
Honestly as a positive user i agree with this dogs still need boundaries makes things so much clearer for dog and handler
@AnjuliMack28 күн бұрын
Great explanation of pleasure vs happiness. Glad I found your channel! I must say most dog channels I’ve seen for training is exactly what you said - treats, treats, treats.
@MATZ302Ай бұрын
the question that comes up for me is: Does having a good "no" mean your dog is not going to dig up a fish skeleton from the ground if they love scavenging? I think there has to be a balance here and as I understand what you're saying and really appreciate all the info- I feel like there has to be a mix of teaching neutrality (ignoring whining and lunging until the dog calms) and also teaching them a few solid commands like "no" "come" and so on.. I do appreciate how you point out how the extremes tend to bring out extreme dogs (either extremely fearful or spoiled) anyhow thanks fam
@annabell296924 күн бұрын
'Yes' and 'no' are words. Communication tools. 'Yes' is not a treat. 'No' is not a punishment. They are markers of what you expect things to be. They give guidance. This video's title is about dogs' happiness. Well, the handler's happiness is as important as the dog's, right? When I want to feel at peace in my environment, I make sure to communicate clearly with the beings capable of understanding around me. And communication is key to any relationship. Let's communicate clearly with our dogs As you said in another video: we're all guilty of talking too much to our dogs, so let's just embrace the simplicity, and power, of those two simple words. I'm happy to have unexpectedly found a channel sharing this credo, so I give a big fat 'yes'! and subscribe.
@skillz0729Ай бұрын
I had a dog that was surrendered to me for aggressive behavior..he was a Boerboel. After talking to the previous owner they told me that they did positive reinforcement and it didn’t change his behavior. I implemented balanced training and he’s the best behaved dog know. Boerboels are one of the most serious guard breeds..throwing treats to redirect them won’t cut it. These dogs need serious leadership and need to be disciplined when they step out of line. The liability is too big!!
@youtubeKathyАй бұрын
my assessment of the all positive method is that sure it is great, but few people can do that in the real world because it requires you to control every aspect of your dogs life, while simultaneously living all the other parts of your life. Definitely need a word or a sound to break the dogs focus from the middle of doing something bad.
@edengarden681127 күн бұрын
So many trainers use prong collars and slipleads. Yank on it and call it training. Also like Cesar Milan, treat the dogs like wolves putting them on their side and back. It's old and a false theory. As a dog coach i think we treat dogs like babies, talk to much, not exercise them enough, and no mental stimulation at all. Not being serious about training and big one: Lack of knowledge about dogs, dog body language and all of that. And i think indeed the biggest thing: dogs are still bred for doing specific jobs but never do these jobs... They are all 'house dogs' these days. Good video!!
@riekaakier1526Ай бұрын
You put so much effort into the video. It's a joy to see!
@LancelotBonecrusherАй бұрын
Amazing content! Only recently found your channel but have been enjoying your videos very much. Very well edited, high production value, and (most importantly) great information in a highly digestible and easy to understand format! This one in particular hits on such a key concept that most KZbin trainers don't often talk about. Keep up the great work!!
@sunsteelsАй бұрын
Wow, thank you! I am approaching the dog training world, at first I had Cesar's Mallon in mind. Boundaries, limitations, to achieve happiness. But when I started watching other trainers and schools I was like: how the fck I have to do? Why does everyone say anything and nothing? I had almost your ideas in mind, but I wasn't sure, thank for your video I found why these ideas works and why are the right ones for dogs. Thank you :D
@sfdf1979Ай бұрын
I hope this spreads far and wide!
@roomio85Ай бұрын
Your honesty reflects in your voice.
@begaxoАй бұрын
Great stuff! one of my fav channels at the moment
@clarendoncrusaderАй бұрын
This is great. Perfect.
@simonxploreАй бұрын
Amazing video! Every single analogy makes so much sense! “No” is the key for everything! Keep the good work 😁
@youtubehatestruthtellers8065Ай бұрын
Happiness is all ALSO a temporary state of mind
@xanderxander08Ай бұрын
Loving this content mate.
@Troy-EchoАй бұрын
You prattled on a bit, but I work for a master dog trainer as a moderator, and I have to say I loved how you expressed these ideas. We say the exact same things. If you can't trust your dog it will end up locked behind a door when company comes over, or locked in a crate so it doesn't jump on guests or steal food from the table. On walks the dog will remain on a 6 ft. (2 meter) leash which is a very small world for a dog. To me, that is what is truly cruel. Let a dog be a dog. That means being off leash and running free yet knowing enough manners while running free not to make bad decisions, and having a reliable recall when you need it. And having an e-collar should the dog on rare occasion decide to blow the recall. The e-collar is great because the more you use it, the less you need it. We've used the exact same analogies about kids without rules. We have a neighbor that has her dog fully off leash, but not on a digital leash either. I can't tell you how many times I wish she had this dog on an e-collar. Typically the dog is well behaved and does well, but when a high level distraction presents itself, she loses all control. Her dog has blown the recall multiple times to try and attack our cat that I've personally seen. A couple times I had to put myself between our cat and her dog while it was coming up the steps to our porch. Her dog is about 25 pounds, and he pulled a muscle badly and walked on 3 legs for a month because according to her, the dog blew her recall and took off after a coyote, which are extremely rare here, and I've never seen one. Anyway, an e-collar would have saved the dog from the injury, and if it was a coyote, it could have potentially saved the dog's life if it turned to fight versus flee. At one point we had our older dog that is fearful and I never allow off leash because she's also almost blind, so it's safer to keep her on a leash. My wife was talking to this lady, and her dog was a little way away, so I brought out dog over and we all talked for a few minutes. Then her dog finally comes to check in and sees our dog. My dog was on leash and I was choked up a little, so our dog had it's flight response removed and the only choice our dog had was to fight and defend itself if attacked, but she's a very unconfident dog and fearful. She tried to call her dog back, but it ignored her. Her dog was used to being 100% free to chase cats, birds, squirrels, ducks, etc., and every time whatever she chased would run away and make the dog feel powerful. Our dog didn't run away, so as her dog came closer, it realized this dog that was over 2x its size wasn't running away, and it thought twice and backed off. The owners face told me she was immediately angry and felt my dog and I were in the wrong, but I just stared at her waiting. Please say something. Explain to me how my dog that is in MY yard and on a leash and 100% under my control is the problem while your dog is running into my yard at my dog, and you have no leash, physical or digital to get your dog under control. Oh well, she thought twice and didn't say anything, including she didn't apologize for her dog's lack of manners, or her not taking the time to train the dog or have it trained. I've not seen other videos, but this was pretty good. If your others are similar, I hope your channel grows well.
@TomsWhipАй бұрын
You've really been on a roll lately with these videos. So good!
@vinceking7651Ай бұрын
This is what people need to hear and you always make sense and if it wasn't for your advice I don't think I would have come as far as I have. I am a mixture of what works for my dog for both perspectives of training because of bad experiences and trying to improve on my own after bad experiences from crap dog trainers locally to me. I still have so much to understand but I have no sides because you are all dog trainers. I just want to do what is right for my dog or generally works so I do and keep on going. I could do with more guidance but I have learnt so much for yourself . Thank you for your time and posts.
@EvelineUKАй бұрын
Very well said, could not agree more.
@sachahaghighi8759 күн бұрын
bro you're a game changer!!
@missfires7852Ай бұрын
There is more than one way to reach rome. The more ways you know the better you get at whatever skills you like to achieve. As a dog groomer with plenty of exp taking care for many different dogs i can honestly say i will have to learn new things for the rest of my life, it is an ongoing journey; what will work for dog nr 1 might not work for dog nr 5. I can tell you that 'ow sorry i just could not groom his 4th leg' doesnt go down well with pet parents heh. I do the best i can within the knowledge i have wich to me means i want to know about all the different options before i make a plan and then i try to patiently and calmly stick to my plan for a good while for i try the next thing. Birds fly, fish swim, dogs walk and sniff things - fulfill their basic needs first, a tired dog is often a happy dog.
@paulboateng7521Ай бұрын
More unapologetically balanced training content!!🎉
@greatbasinmanАй бұрын
Such good advice, I keep trying, combination of letting a dog live up to what it’s genetics are and owner’s trying to keep it safe but yet unrestrained, I’m up for the challenge, trying so hard to recognize when the circumstances are present. Thanks to your efforts, I m getting better at it 😎😎😎
@IkkeKendtАй бұрын
So, what methods are there to properly teach your dog the "no" command? I have never stumbled upon a video that teaches this, so I'm curious how people would do this.
@jenniferwhite686Ай бұрын
Love love love this!
@GeorgeJCLSАй бұрын
Perfectly said 👏 ❤
@MarkJoel196011 күн бұрын
i am enjoying the content on your channel. I am also impressed with the great editing. I can't imagine how LONG it must take for you to put together one video! Thanks for doing it!
@robertturner2516Ай бұрын
Progression is key to training. Humans or animals. As they achieve, they gain freedom but a harder life.....
@Velcro1997Ай бұрын
I love the editing of your videos! 😂
@Alexander361cmongimmieahandleАй бұрын
Excellent, brilliant teaching. Thank you. We need this.
@taniabnАй бұрын
I recently got a puppy and have been reading a lot about dog psychology and training, I believe in positive reinforcement, but I've never seen anyone say you're not supposed to say no to the dog, even among the positive reinforcement community.
@m4rtin419Ай бұрын
This is a beautiful video, relevant for dogs as well for humans. Here is an idea for a follow up video, at least that’s something I have been trying to find out: what activities provide happiness for different types of dogs? For example, my high-drive border collie thrives from structured activities and tasks. Playing wild too long with other dogs brings her pleasure but not happiness. After a while she will get into mental overload, so I have to add a „no“ and let her take a break. I really have trouble explaining that to other dog owners, because for their low-drive dogs that might just be fine.
@sarahm3614Ай бұрын
This is a good child training video as well as a good dog training video.
@keithreynolds6359Ай бұрын
Great video! This is what I try to do with my dogs & my teenage son 😅
@youtubeKathy2 күн бұрын
I always expect to see a lot of Yorkshire terriers on this channel.
@KnowledgeIsComfort27 күн бұрын
Just like with children. They are then happier in life, well-adjusted, can deal with hardships/obstacles, and rarely get into trouble at school or in society at large
@fennellmarcАй бұрын
Awesome video, very clear! Thanks
@hanksimon102329 күн бұрын
Ranger looks like my Lab x GSD, Mikee. Do you know what breeds that make up Ranger?
@heatherboxrud65025 күн бұрын
I really appreciate this concept and your approach, makes way more sense that what I have seen online so far! But I suppose what isn't so obvious to me is how to teach them that no is a correction or boundary, that it something we don't want them to do? My dog is now nearly 8months, a rescue that we got 2 months ago. She is in that stage that seems like she will do anything against what we want her to do, almost to spite us, and "no" just gets her more excited at times. We have a particularly big issue with jumping up and biting, not malicious but she is getting stronger and it is starting to hurt. At this point, no seems to be an irrelevant word, hoping you can help with a future video on the adolescent/teenager stage - I am starting to lose my f$#!$ng mind! Thank you for all your videos so far, I just found your channel this evening and have been binge watching the videos and shorts.
@canine_coachАй бұрын
2:58 Never heard any of this advice. McCann dogs is pretty solid online training imo.
@con-can57111 күн бұрын
I absolutely love your distinction between "pleasure" and "happiness". Do you have any thoughts on Joel Beckmans training style? I like him and am just curious. Your editing cracks me up. Have great day.
@csc86978 күн бұрын
Excellent video, new to the channel. I agree letting dogs be dogs.
@SGCanineAdventuresАй бұрын
beautifully said!!
@floatysarah21 күн бұрын
Aww - ask if they are happy, and the look of the dog in the forest! That really moved ne, cos i want that for every dog (& person- most people seek pleasure ratger thsn happiness)
@flumpyflumpy3515Ай бұрын
Oh great I needed to hear this I’m so confused by so many training techniques! Think I should find one (ie you) and ditch the rest lol
@bigbudugary128519 күн бұрын
How do you go about “no”? Is that as simple as removing the dog from the distraction. Is that a leash correction? Would like a little more clarity if possible please.
@JadeWilliams-hx5llАй бұрын
This is such a good video
@tracy-9-c4y20 күн бұрын
Makes sense 🥰
@chloeindigoАй бұрын
I haven't really heard an argument against no the concept, tbh. Feels like an oversimplification of other people's perpesctives. I've heard the argument that the word "no" isn't very useful because it doesn't contain a specific instruction (eg heel, halt, come) so it confuses the dog and may loose potency due to this. I've heard arguments around levels of punishment too. But I haven't really heard an argument against the concept of no. The hardline positive reinforcement method in the situations you talk about isn't controlling the dogs environment so it's not triggered. That's only one step of a longer process, it's not permanent. It limiting triggers THEN intentionally training appropriate behaviours with those triggers. The limitation isn't about not being avoiding no so much as avoiding your dog teaching themselves uncontrolled responses to triggers which have to be unlearnt later. Concious work on a trigger should start as soon as possible so the dogs world isn't limited. So, in a sense your video actually confuses people further by playing into the common misunderstanding (assumption actually, because the information is all there if people paid attention) about positive training that it's about avoidance. It's not, it's about concious exposure. It's also not anti no. It's an acknowledgement that saying no isn't the best, most ideal way to deal with a behaviour in terms of your dogs development on multiple levels. Positive association with a trigger, for instance, would be a better situation than just being restrained around a trigger. So it's more about focusing on a higher aim than just the no. Even the most positive trainer on KZbin says in his videos if the dog was about to be in a dangerous situation for themselves or someone else yes they would raise their voice, do in and grab the dog, whatevers needed. It's about maximising situations where that's no needed so when it is it's more potent, more supercharged. Dogs that get in trouble too often become immune to it and the consequences then need to increases for the no Tobe effective. I'm actually not anti ecollars etc, I just dislike the misunderstanding people have of positive training because they throw their own assumptions on it and don't actually listen. Positive training isn't about limiting the dog, that would be innatentive training. It's more like a kind of perfectionism. People are right that if you maximise positive interactions between your dog and yourself, and if you maximise environmental interactions that are within their coping abilities while slowly extending those abilities, you end up with a dog that is the most confident in themselves and has the most trusting connection with you you can get out of any technique. They also have better emotional regulation because their baseline is regulated, so that's what they return to, easily. They won't like getting involved with over excited dogs or intense activities that mess with their recall because it doesn't fit their nervous system. A dog that has lots of emotional spikes throughout its day (like training involving flooding, over exciting activities) builds stronger, faster connections to those spikes and can even start seeking out thrilling situations. This is all correct. They're not saying anything wrong, and there's a reason assistance dogs are trained entirely with positive reinforcement and in very controlled situations. Anyone who says anything against positive training needs to be in denial of that fact, all assistance animals, dogs so reliable they guide blind people through train stations, go through 100% positive training with very curated environments yet they succeed as independent decision makers in whatever environment they need to go into. There's also a reason those dogs cost so much though, it takes a lot of time and money to control things to that degree (but it does work). So what that means is to the degree that you can in your own life you should maximise curated training and intentional exposure rather than throwing your dog in the deep end with things. For safety reasons, a no should also be taught, but honestly don't see why it can't be taught with treats in many circumstances (eg a halt command or a recall) and fear of consequence being a known skill but used when necessary not just cos.
@robertdawson7854 күн бұрын
before i went to pick up my hound at 9 weeks, i called some dog trainers. 2 of them said they don't use negative reinforcement i.e. saying no....I hung up.
@bettyalford1364Ай бұрын
Training is easy, don't reward bad behavior, do reward good behavior without treats, treats are just to introduce a new ideal watch and understand the breed and individual dog and your homelife, ya'll make it so hard and it's actually easy.
@MarcieHardingАй бұрын
Great video. 🙏
@lindsay9678-l8lАй бұрын
Knew straight away where you were going with this 😉
@gameoftros4875Ай бұрын
Great stuff man. I sure been in between those 2 sides of types of training like you say in the start of ya vid. And i could feel my border collie was not soooo happy on both sides. And yes, finding the nice balance is working waaaay better now. Ofc she loves the treats and stuff. But she kinde understands "NO" now and i just feel she is more happy when im able letting her off leash, and yea i conditioned her with an e collar on the correct way. But man... now shes able to be a dog at least, and she knwows when to come if needed. Yet, shes still a Lil crackhead being 1.5 years old, but... thats normal i asume 😂 Anyway, love your "discussions" !! Keep them coming ❤👍🏼
@haim3274Ай бұрын
Thanks again for the great information, I'm sure my dog thank you as well 😂.
@PittBlu213Ай бұрын
Happiness is second to obedience. I said it
@loyal_dogsАй бұрын
100% agree
@unokepasabaАй бұрын
Can they understand the word NO tho? It depends a lot of the context. Your dog might not even be able to listen to you if it is scared or too excited.
@judet3026Ай бұрын
Can we somehow make this required viewing for all dog trainers and owners? There is so much guilt and shaming by the FF disciples that I am sure it is leading to the upsurge in 'reactivity'. Very nicely put together vid btw >> 5/5 stars.
@reacher8446Ай бұрын
These purely positive people will not be happy until every dog who needs more then hot dog and hug locked outside in the cold or being put down.
@user-vu5tv8kh4wАй бұрын
Now if only I didn't have to say no day after day to the same behavior... they listen in the moment but then do the same things again later. 😅
@dothedo3667Ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Victoria Stilwell or Zack George ever said "dont say no" or anything like that. Maybe you're being vague and trying to say that "no" should be done differently or you're using it as a vague euphemisms for certain punishments. But I'm quite certain they've employed "no" in more than one way. Or maybe it's just for the attention/clickbait.
@AnimaTristeАй бұрын
You are wrong. Period.
@angelareeves6989Ай бұрын
You should be running parenting courses !
@krisdiperna3929Ай бұрын
For my love and longing for a Border Collies I do harbor a secret fantasy of buying a flock of sheep for them to herd! Next life!
@nogames8982Ай бұрын
Balanced training is needed and it is completely ignored nowadays. You have the two extremes and nothing in between. It comes down to if all you have in your toolboxes a hammer you treat them world like a nail. You need all kinds of tools in that toolbox. You need the whole spectrum of training methods, From treats on up to the prong collar. Everything in between. And you you have to know what to do with everyone of those tools. Because all of them can be used incorrectly. A friend of mine was a professional dog trainer, she passed away a few years ago. She was a balanced trainer. She used whatever technique worked the best with that dog at that particular moment in time. I really respected her for that. RIP Kim. I think we all could use a little bit more balance in our lives nowadays. The extremes aren’t really helping anybody in any aspect of our life.
@zsahe21Ай бұрын
lol that thumbnail
@owenducie7847Ай бұрын
A real dog trainer will do anything to help the owner and the dog if they say they are force free I immediately laugh and walk away.