The Story Behind The Most Successful Bikes In Grand Tour History - Road Bikes The Pinarello Way

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@Desmond17
@Desmond17 Ай бұрын
I love that they kept the mud & grime on the Roubaix bike. Reminds me of former LeMans racecar in museums.
@MHDHRacing
@MHDHRacing Ай бұрын
I have the previous Dogma F and I love it. It rides so good and it looks different than all the other race bikes, that is something I really like about it. 😊
@fiddleronthebike
@fiddleronthebike Ай бұрын
the last 5 Tours de France Pinarello bikes didn’t play a significant role, same in most significant races; so according to your introduction we should assume that Pinarello now is outdated…? No, but most top bikes today are equally good - it’s the rider who wins or loses
@kp5833
@kp5833 Ай бұрын
It's not the bike it's always the rider
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB Ай бұрын
They've also won World titles in XCC, XCO MTB, and Cyclocross......
@finguo1223
@finguo1223 Ай бұрын
dogma is the most beautiful and distinctive looking bike ever.
@RegularJonMTB
@RegularJonMTB Ай бұрын
Really interesting video, keep it up.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 Ай бұрын
All frames are manufactured in Asia and only the painting and assembly of the Dogma models takes place at the company's headquarters in Treviso. Therefore, to the purist, this is NOT an Italian bike! But still nice, though!
@flipper2gv
@flipper2gv Ай бұрын
By your definition there isn't a carbon Italian bike.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 Ай бұрын
@@flipper2gv well so be it
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 Ай бұрын
@@flipper2gv NO? There are more than a few 100% Made-in-Italy carbon bikes available...I own a couple of 'em!
@flipper2gv
@flipper2gv Ай бұрын
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 care to give me an example?
@ageofsigmar7236
@ageofsigmar7236 Ай бұрын
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 OEM ahahaha!
@jemsmay2167
@jemsmay2167 Ай бұрын
The secret to bikes that are successful in grand tours is getting them under riders that are capable of winning a grand tour. It’s not the wand, it’s the wizard….
@richiejames928
@richiejames928 Ай бұрын
Pogi and colnago are going to rack up more wins than any other bike brand ever… and it won’t take him long either!
@maticrzen123
@maticrzen123 Ай бұрын
Its not the bike that wins, its the rider. Everything else is marketing...
@SecwetGwiwer
@SecwetGwiwer Ай бұрын
Sorry but can you explain “the bottom bracket has been tilted”???
@Cycle.every.day.
@Cycle.every.day. Ай бұрын
I know they worded that as if to say "off level/on a slope" , but they'll be referencing the asymetric,slightly to one side off center nature of the bb shell , like Cervelos bbright system.
@SecwetGwiwer
@SecwetGwiwer Ай бұрын
@@Cycle.every.day. O.K, I believe you but in what way can that possibly be described as being “tilted 3 degrees”?
@harmdegraaf5579
@harmdegraaf5579 Ай бұрын
@@SecwetGwiwer Maybe if your leggs are not the same length ;)
@DCRUZ547
@DCRUZ547 Ай бұрын
My Favorite is the Prince of Spain ridden by Alejandro Valverde
@andras3847
@andras3847 Ай бұрын
Pinarello Dogma F carbon frame is more stiff than cheaper carbon? (wilier gtr or specialized Tarmac sl4) and cheaper carbon are more comfortable than high quality carbon(like dogma or other high end frames) ??
@KeithFoad
@KeithFoad Ай бұрын
Often, you can not get a fram to fit you, and because of this, you feel left out of the bike industry.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 Ай бұрын
3:23 Best paint job ever . . . Mud!
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 Ай бұрын
Pure marketing genius! Ya gotta hand it to them, they've made a fortune selling bicycles with their decal on them made by others. Not original of course, but they've done a fantastic job making sure the best teams are using bikes with their decal on the downtube. But don't forget, the bike doesn't do s__t until an athlete climbs on and starts pedaling.
@mohammadtaufek5529
@mohammadtaufek5529 Ай бұрын
The real Pinarello frames are made by Carbotec Industrial of Taiwan and China. Painting are done in italy ….
@cannon1156
@cannon1156 Ай бұрын
The first Dogma was not the FP. It was simply the Dogma .. a magnesium frame with carbon rear stays. The FP was released on 2004. Explain how I had a Dogma in 2003 bought in Treviso from Giovanni Pinarello. You really need to get your facts straight
@tommyfreckmann6857
@tommyfreckmann6857 Ай бұрын
How did it hold up? And your experience?
@cannon1156
@cannon1156 Ай бұрын
​@@tommyfreckmann6857I raced that bike until 2015. It was a great bike
@tommyfreckmann6857
@tommyfreckmann6857 Ай бұрын
​@@cannon1156sweet! So, it was reliable for you. I heard so many horror stories of it cracking. Why did you sell it? And any idea on how many miles?
@ageofsigmar7236
@ageofsigmar7236 Ай бұрын
still, an OEM frame is made in Taiwan and ROC No such thing as authentic frames anymore😂
@matthewlewis2072
@matthewlewis2072 Ай бұрын
The handbag bike firm? Colnago has won more. And watching @mapdec it's clear Penisrello bikes aren't well made
@myocardialbridge47
@myocardialbridge47 Ай бұрын
Is this Pinarello’s carbon frame made in China and then sent back to Italy for painting?
@ageofsigmar7236
@ageofsigmar7236 Ай бұрын
Yes! Made in Taiwan
@tommyfreckmann6857
@tommyfreckmann6857 Ай бұрын
No, it's not. They are made in China or Vietnam.​@@ageofsigmar7236
@aaronpaterson7582
@aaronpaterson7582 Ай бұрын
what size bike did you ride in this video.
@atlaswest
@atlaswest Ай бұрын
?. Fixed.
@harrylook7810
@harrylook7810 Ай бұрын
tell them to cool it with all the stickers
@jenmac287
@jenmac287 Ай бұрын
It ain't da bike ....they are all good.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 Ай бұрын
4:45 I thought the rule has always been to run WITH the bike!
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 Ай бұрын
It was (and still is), but judges forgot that at the time.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 Ай бұрын
@@madyogi6164 convenient amnesia, propelled by Sky's influence?
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 Ай бұрын
@@savagepro9060 More like SKY!
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 Ай бұрын
@@madyogi6164 Oops! My bad . . . edit
@glennicol1361
@glennicol1361 Ай бұрын
I thought Trigon made Pinarello...
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 Ай бұрын
The most successful is not the same as the best nor most beautiful. The best and most beautiful Grand Tour bike is by Sturdy Cycles.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 Ай бұрын
That is next level shilling. They make the frames in China and they're owned by LVMH that owns Louis Vuitton so it's absolutely a luxury brand, not a performance one on the edge of innovation. Does colnago win the TDF with pogi and UAE because UAE owns colnago, or because colnago is one cut above the rest? I'm sure pinarello makes great bikes, but this video sounds terribly hollow.
@tommyfreckmann6857
@tommyfreckmann6857 Ай бұрын
I do agree to a degree. But, when the Dogma F8 was released. It was very cutting edge at the time in 2014.
@cannon1156
@cannon1156 Ай бұрын
LVMH are recent owners of Pinarello .. not the woners when the F series started
@tommyfreckmann6857
@tommyfreckmann6857 Ай бұрын
@cannon1156 they sold them this year to an individual. And production is China and Vietnam, finishing in Taiwan and and painted in Italy. This is all for the Dogma.
@cannon1156
@cannon1156 Ай бұрын
​@tommyfreckmann6857 ..I was just saying that when the F series started they were still owned by Pinarello not LVMH
@tommyfreckmann6857
@tommyfreckmann6857 Ай бұрын
@cannon1156 the F8 and 10 were under Pinarello ownership. After that, it was under LMVH. I do believe that the quality went down bc they were really pushed to produce as many as possible. Fausto even said that in an interview.
@aaxxa
@aaxxa Ай бұрын
ain't gonna happen no more
@witnessingobscura952
@witnessingobscura952 Ай бұрын
$15k for a bike .... hard pass.
@SrFederico
@SrFederico Ай бұрын
Never heard this complain ever before.
@durianraja
@durianraja Ай бұрын
🤣
@hallockstuart7899
@hallockstuart7899 Ай бұрын
Amazing that Ineos continues to stick with such a mediocre bike
@jenmac287
@jenmac287 Ай бұрын
Silly comment
@risesir
@risesir Ай бұрын
@@jenmac287Silly response to a comment
@SrFederico
@SrFederico Ай бұрын
I’d put it the other way round, amazing that Pinarello continues to stick with such a mediocre team.
@bigl14908
@bigl14908 Ай бұрын
@@SrFederico😂
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