The SELF DELETING NEUROLOGICAL APOCALYPSE In Bird Box Explained

[@RoanokeGaming]

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[@newbornviking9721]

Roanoke Gaming Can you please do a video on The Skrulls From marvel comics

[@alecsosa276]

Roanoke fellow Georgian here why haven't you reviewed the ending of Dead Island sequel and the whole "built in prion genocide" ending????

[@ollehkacb]

This movie has to sequels by the way.

[@michaelricarte5911]

Let's go with Stacie for women Chad lol

[@dwoncrawford5823]

Do you think that one they could possibly cause these types of “episodes” in people with what we know about the human brain at this present time? It should be possible I think with all the meds that affect our brain a Dr may prescribe to help certain disorders.

[@colinmarshall9155]

Pretty sure they're just straight up Lovecraft Abominations. One of the insane dude's drawings is literally Cthullu

[@RyuuRider]

Roanoke hypothesized that the way we perceive these creatures could be affected by the brain damage which brought hallucinations and stuff. I'd say it's more likely the guy drew Cthulu because it's a concept we're aware of and it's easy to hallucinate something familiar like Cthulu. What they actually look like is likely different, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had grotesque anatomy. I also wouldn't be surprised if they looked like Lovecraftian abominations, because that's still a possibility.

[@SunTzu176]

@@RyuuRider Its kind of funny you say that its a concept we're aware of and its easy to hallucinate it like Cthulu, because the whole point of Cthulu is that, what people see is actually just the closest our minds can get to describing what we're seeing without our brains melting into sludge. Cthulu doesnt actually look like a giant weird fish octopus faced thing, but its the closest thing we can get to a depiction without sizzling our gray matter on a hot frying pan.

[@randallbesch2424]

@@SunTzu176 Cthulhu is terrestrial not an octopus or fish at all. Varuna once ruled this planet till the triad of entities each equal in strength came from the stars and stopped Varuna's xenoforming Earth dead in its tracks. R'leyh is the city and tomb for Cthulhu and spawn. I looked up the word and found it is based on "rely" which can mean restrain. Which the fire sign is trapped by water. Lovecraft possibly got the idea from reading Hindu texts of his grandfather's library where he would read about Varuna the first "God of the Air" and ruler of Earth. It took 3 other gods to fetter him into the briny deep. The 3 are; foremost among the many Hindu gods and goddesses are the Holy Triad of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, the creator, sustainer, and destroyer of worlds (in that order). Sometimes, the three may appear in the form of an avatar, embodied by a Hindu god or other shapes each as strong as Varuna to put he and his minions into Yamas/R'leyh trapped for a long time.

[@VenathTehN3RD]

@@SunTzu176 Yeah, the way people seem to perceive them here is pretty in-line with how people perceive entities like Cthulhu in the Lovecraft Mythos. The human mind TRIES to process what it's looking at, but it's so complex and alien that the mind just kind of fills in gaps to create something somewhat recognizable. Which honestly makes sense since that's kind of how the human mind tends to work in the real world - when we encounter unknowns, our brains tend to fill in the gaps with something that makes sense to us even when it's inaccurate. It's one of the reasons why shadows can screw with our brains so much and make us misjudge shapes, sizes, and so on and so forth. Especially in the wild, where unrecognizable things tend to poke the survival panic mode button in the primitive lizard part of our brain. Entities like the ones in Lovecraft lore and this movie just take that to an extreme, with the unrecognizable creature in the shadows being so alien that it straight up overloads the brain instead of just causing it to misinterpret and/or overestimate how threatening the thing it's trying to recognize is.

[@zambekiller]

Fun fact the original design for the birdbox monsters was originally going to be giant ugly babies but the movie's director said no it would be scarier if we never see the monsters

[@josephbryanasuncion4904]

Best decision ever.

[@zambekiller]

@josephbryanasuncion4904 exactly what the assistant to the director said

[@ArishemTheJudge-19]

Glad he decided that because gaint ugly babies sound goofy as hell

[@zambekiller]

@ArishemTheJudge-19 that was the initial situation when they saw the art made by the writer of birdbox they couldn't stop laughing at it

[@hernehaugen6878]

​@@ArishemTheJudge-19You should see the ending of Drakengard 1. Giant flying demon babies kill everyone.

[@digisalamander2726]

I always assumed what was going on in Birdbox was that the monster is from a higher plane of existence and our minds couldn’t comprehend it and it drives us crazy

[@rookholgado]

I agree the angels in the Bible say to people “don’t fear” if you understand what biblical angels look like (tons of eyes, four faces, 4 or more wings and even in fire). It’s something so scary your brain freaks out

[@Darqshadow]

​@@rookholgado and yet people try to make them look pretty lol.

[@rookholgado]

@@Darqshadow right lol I guess that’s why we’re not suppose to depict heavenly beings because they are terrifying irl 😂

@@Darqshadow ell that and they can just show up as a dude, depends on the situation. I mean some old guy tells you a flood is coming, you might blow it off. Now if it is a giant set of gold rings with 10K eyes and 10K wings, you might believe it.

[@DestaniePereira-ki1fo]

If I remember correctly, the aliens in Birdbox book didn't mean to cause this. They just popped up on Earth to either observe humans, make contact with them and/or were on vacation. They have no clue that the reason the humans are acting like that was because of them. A example, near the end of the book, when one of the aliens try to take the blindfold off. The lead screams to don't touch it and that it was her's. Upon request, the alien let go and walked away. Showing that they have the intelligence to understand and travel to Earth, but not understanding that they are the reason why the humans are offing themselves.

[@mrsir2254]

They might just not care. They were either dumped on earth by another more intelligent species, or by some unknown series of events, OR they're very aware of their affect on humans. It might not have been intentional originally...but it was likely so after the initial episodes arose, either due to purposeful decision or apathy.

[@miffedcuttlefish6139]

This makes me want to read the book now, thank you. 😊

[@PQUNDCAKE]

sounds like the book does a better job at describing what's actually going on, and the movie is just following mom of boy and girl from apocalypse's start

[@skeeter3969]

So has thousands of humans look at it and instantly off themselves, hmm that's weird flys off to the next person haha

[@DestaniePereira-ki1fo]

@PQUNDCAKE I believe so. A KZbinr who compares the books and the movie describes it better. I just can't remember his name.

[@DarkEaterMid]

Bird Box is just The Happening, but with vision instead of scent.

[@choshow86]

Thank you. i dont know why everyone kept comparing it to a quiet place instead of the happening

[@Crawdithe98]

@@choshow86 Most likely because it came out around the same time as A Quiet Place, and both share a similar premise baring a sense change, hence the comparison.

[@theironworks6797]

Neurological Apocalypse would be an amazing album name.

[@clutch2827]

My new band name - Neuropocalpyse.

[@CeeDoubleU]

That's actually bad tf ass​@@clutch2827

[@racemylife1]

It's also worth noting the vast majority of the population with schizophrenia aren't living in institutions, they manage to live normal lives while managing their condition with medication and/or therapy

[@carmillaaaa]

And from the sounds of it, anyone with eye damage (even if they’re not fully blind) may be similarly able to look at them without suffering the full impact

[@zoeshawalton165]

I’ve always wondered how they could look so devestated but happy at the same time. I know that they are supposed to be monsters but the way that the creatures were framed always reminded me of how in Greek mythology, mortals were unable to look at the pure form of the gods. Like they were overwhelmed by the sight of the gods in their most pure form and it literally drove them crazy, kinda like the victims of the creatures in bird box! Sorry for rambling, great video as always!

[@winstoncrew7183]

I think you made your point without rambling, also found room to compliment our man too. Good on yah. 😀

[@strawberrylotlizard]

Yeah the only way the movie makes sense is if their demons or gods or something

[@house3500]

i always thought the same thing, some type of eldritch god

[@housewilma4904]

its similar in christianity as well looking at the true form of god or even a angel would result in a person immiedatly turning to ash or salt with a experssion of fear and awe like lots wife.

[@nothanks9503]

You ever contemplate space and alien life to the point it makes you nauseous I feel like it’s like that

[@Corbald]

I also had ocular migraines as a kid, and throughout my teens. I was kicked in the head by a horse when I was 10. I grew out of them, thank god, but they'd leave me paralyzed with pain, completely blind and throwing up. The light/sound sensitivity was the worst, though... A stray bit of sunlight would leave me curled up in a ball, or a phone ringing across the house. They'd crop up at school, always preceded by a slowly growing patch of 'shimmer', which would come to dominate my vision. As it grew, so did the pain, until I was completely disabled, laying in the darkened nurse's room, until my mom could come pick me up. I distinctly remember *not* remembering the trip home, a few times, and I know the pain got so bad I'd hallucinate. They'd last about 8 to 10 hours, and leave me physically and emotionally exhausted. I'd have about three a month. The doctors couldn't do anything for me. Nothing wouldn't touch the pain. They just chocked it up to the brain damage (severe concussion from the kick, and in a brief coma, which I woke up from quickly) and hoped it'd eventually pass. It did, but the imprint it left on my life is profound. I'm physically sick when someone is hurting... it brings me instantly back to that place... I'd do anything in my powerful to alleviate suffering in another, but have a nearly superhuman pain tolerance. Trust me, If you ever get an alien parasite, I'm the guy to come to if you need to be put down... I understand.

[@QuietXVI]

I felt this so bad it hurt, I had the same thing happen I grew out of it also but it’s still one of the most painful experiences I’ve ever had.

[@randallbesch2424]

I have had eye migraines twice each time with impaired vision no pain and I have suffered for decades with head splitting headaches now I have them under control.

[@Dante3214]

For some reason, when I get sick to my stomach I also develop bad migraines, but not nearly as bad as the ones you have described. However, I do understand the light sensitivity and increasingly horrible, debilitating pain. For me I almost always throw up and the pain begins to subside afterward. This is what leads me to believe it's from food somehow. I feel like I have been through a fraction of that, and I can nearly imagine what you mean. Congrats on growing out of them. I've had kidney stones too and that doesn't even seem as bad as these migraines.

[@jarvis5552]

Wait you can grow out of migranes? I've had chronic migranes my entire life. I'm on medication but it's not preventative - only meant to stop a migraine once it starts (so I'm still in pain and light/sound sensitivity, etc for only an hour, not all day)

[@AvishkarIyyappan]

Bring back the angler fish HATE

[@Touch-Grass-Now]

He has been compromised. We must face the reality and carry on his legacy. That of an angler fish and marine biologist hater. Humanity number 1!

[@MisterFahrenheitDoctorJones]

W

[@Loreweavver]

The Deep Ones may have gotten to him.

[@Sr.DudeGuy]

We of the Lophius Piscatorius Sect have risen! Our time is now, so prepare!

[@Letsscalpp3d0s]

It has been replaced with squirt gun Kelly hate which is a much more justified hatred and warranted too.

[@carljensen333]

Lovecraft characters often fell into deep madness upon looking at cosmic entities. It’s an old idea but Bird Box expanded on it.

[@randallbesch2424]

A fantastic idea really. Another Lovecraft inspired movie not based on any of his work. The concept is there.

[@thatguy44148]

Roanoke is an anglerfish sleeper agent

[@BLOODKINGbro]

Awaiting the call of Cthulhu.

[@damnyiffers]

He stokes the fires of hatred to mask his own intent. He awaits the call.

[@Mr_Spooner]

I read it on the internet so it must be true

[@O-5Council]

If we were to assume it was a solely supernatural anomaly, it would be classified as a Memetic Cognitogazard in SCP jargon. In short a memetic cognitohazard is any object/entity that causes anomalous behaviours when perceived. In this case it causes an overwhelming urge to self-delete. In the movie (assuming it is supernatural) it is likely some kind of eldrich anomaly that overwhelms the mind and causes self-deletion. The mass-self-deletion is a clear sign that this is some kind of extermination force that is meant to erase humanity. the fact that there are some people who are seemingly immune/affected differently might be intentional or most likely it is just an unintended effect. If we are to go with your frequency explanation, think of it like epilepsy, where certain combination of stimuli cause seizures, the frequency of their bio-photons trigger a part of the brain that causes the individual to self-delete.

[@RadAbishai]

Did you watch "There Is No Anti-memetic Division"?

[@O-5Council]

@RadAbishai we did, it was great

[@brandondoane332]

This movie, the Happening, and the crazies hit me like no other movies. Like having your self control taken from you, then being forced to hurt yourself or the people you care about. Its terrifying.

[@brandondoane332]

That nick cage movie with parents marking offspring too.

[@Agg1E91]

So, we have the "don't look" monsters and the "don't speak" (Quiet Place) monsters. I guess there must be a "don't listen" monster movie in the works so we get the whole "...no evil" trilogy. Then the studio(s) get greedy and we get the "don't smell", "don't taste" (?!!?) and "don't touch" spin-offs. With a direct-to-streaming "don't think" movie, that no one admits to having ever seen (but turned out to be a guilty pleasure).

[@foxmulder6695]

There is a movie roanoke covered I think a year ago where human language becomes infected by some kind of virus so people scramble to not listen to stuff.

[@Dinidan]

There is the whole language triggered parasite thing in MGS V.

[@Angel-ob8md]

@@Dinidanexactly what I was thinking as soon as he said that lmao

[@sparking023]

"Don't touch" can be any zombie movie, but I elect "The Thing" to be the exemplar. "Don't smell" has that one apocalyptic movie where the plants decide enough is enough and they release some kind of pheromone that makes humans go absolutely cuckoo in the head.

[@Nob911]

Its called pontypool​@@foxmulder6695

[@holoramecid]

The victims seem to suddenly realize the incomprehensible truth of the universe... Which undoubtedly, THE ANGLER FISH

[@Hellbughunter]

As written in "Outer Wilds" "from all the creatures perishing at the end of the universe the angler fish will be missed the least."

[@MugiwaraZero]

They say it's visions of angler fish that cause the people to self-destruct

[@ninabean12]

I wanna see/hear Roanoke’s take on The Andromeda Strain. It’s right up his alley

[@Backinblackbunny009]

Excellent movie. One of my favorites

[@FeedMeSalt]

This movie reminded me of the time I caused a wasp colony to self destruct. Play boy brown sugar cinnamon body spray. The wasps that came near me started attacking each other near immediately. It was utter Chaos, so i sprayed the hole nest. They literally tore each other apart to the last wasp. Many were actively eating their own wings on the ground.

[@RedYDG]

This is useful information.

[@CraigCR]

Chemical warfare Sadam would be proud of 🥹

[@strawberrylotlizard]

You've saved lives here

[@Crackheadcentral2188]

I’m so proud of you

[@BxRob927]

I actively preform head surgery on wasps whenever I find them

[@nenwar3454]

I'm a simple man. I see a Roanoke upload, I watch, I like

[@blackforestwaltz]

4:04 I always crack up when a classic car pops up because I know Roanoke talks about them both because he wants to and because it bugs the crap out of some very salty people

[@doragonzx]

in the second film it is Shown that the aliens are physical in nature since they could capture one, but also some peoples can develop resistance to the mental manipulations and ocular attack.

[@brotherkhrayn3525]

There’s a second bird box film?

[@RyukTheChosen]

@@brotherkhrayn3525yep

[@VagrantS0ul]

​@@brotherkhrayn3525 Yeah, takes place in Spain. Actually not half bad.

[@Chisien]

name?? ​@@VagrantS0ul

[@doragonzx]

@@brotherkhrayn3525 yep

[@ornu01]

It probably forces people to permanently lose the ability to automatically breathe. The utter horror of life like that.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

I am reminded of the game Manual Samuel.

[@deltacx1059]

IR goggles would probably fix the issue, no visable light to transmit. Or a similar lidar system that just maps geometry, no light information from the thing period.

[@Raven-um2wf]

Military would have this figured out and working on the problem pretty quickly I feel. If they are physical beings they can likely be taken out, just a matter of how tough they are and how they respond to threats at that point.

[@deltacx1059]

@Raven-um2wf they definitely would have figured it out, the civilian chaos probably made it look worse than it is.

[@JunkyardGod]

And if you never wore IR goggles, they mess with your depth perception.

[@cropathfinder]

@@Raven-um2wf No militaries lack problem solving skills and adaptational ones especially the western style ones, i mean just look at western troops and officers fighting/commanding proxy troops in a certain european country whose solution to everything is throw more and more highly expensive tech and manpower at a problem, when it fails do so again and again to no effect then cry how you don't have enough of X because it keeps getting destroyed all while being in denial and drinking their own cool aid about their enemy. Thats just one of two very recent examples but historically this is the trend for military's , occasionally trough pressure some problems can be solved but then again obvious working solution can just as well be flat rejected by troops on the ground i.e. US troops rejecting to use up-gunned tanks in part due to distrust of changes done to system they are familiar with. Meanwhile with every new system the opposing force keeps adapting, rolling out new systems and tactics at insane pace not seen since the same nation was in WW2.

[@deltacx1059]

@JunkyardGod some of them are pretty bad about it some are not so bad, I think it's the distance between the optics that might have something to do with it, it's something that can be overcome.

[@GrandRegentSScratch]

24:07 the brown noise doesn’t actually exist Roanoke, the myth busters even disproved it😂

[@EteraRPG]

If it were real it would be a crazy good solution for constipation

[@RenzDavis]

More paranormal theory. I have heard of a "creature" called a "Tulpa" which is a thought-form of malevolence. It is believed that with meditation one can manifest it into existence. May also be referred to as an Agozyn. It is an evil entity that causes someone to commit suicide or commit heinous acts. (However,not all Tulpas are created equal.) Technically, Tyler Durden from Fight Club is a Tulpa. Likewise, Freddy Krueger is also a Tulpa. Both were created as thought forms and both had different physical forms that manifested into existence. Big fan of looking at movies covered here on the channel as thought experiments. Great video as always, this is the most engaged I've gotten in the comments 😅

[@thomasjoychild4962]

Tulpas aren't necessarily malevolent by definition, just to be clear, though they can be.

[@RenzDavis]

@thomasjoychild4962 this is true. Honestly, my first exposure to this concept was from the Pendergast series (The Wheel of Darkness). I thought of this story when I saw the thumbnail. It's an interesting comparison of changing mentality when exposed to a vision, whether imaginary or something tangable or optically perceived. That mentioned, you make a good point that Tulpa is a manifestion in of thought. I haven't researched it too much, so I'm currently in a rabbit hole to learn more 😅

[@thomasjoychild4962]

@@RenzDavis They're a thought-entity that can end up "getting away" from the person who thought them up and become independent. IIRC they're from Tibetan folklore.

[@RenzDavis]

@@thomasjoychild4962 wicked, thanks for the knowledge 🙏 This kind of engagement is cool, don't really get to talk or nerd out much lol.

[@dtay8913]

We appreciate the frequent uploads Roanoke but I will continue to ask about your progress on The Strain.

[@gabrielasalvucci7211]

omg yes

[@rodrigod2281]

What is the strain

[@scubasteve69181]

It would probably be easier to cover the 3 books and just insert clips from the show

[@skeeter3969]

At least your not the subnautica, he was actually getting Annoying

[@ruxcooking]

Reaper is just alien anglerfish ​@@skeeter3969

[@GunlessSnake]

ONCE AGAIN ASKING ROANOKE GAMING TO COVER PACIFIC RIM! If he does not, we shall remove his blindfold and expose him to the horror of the anglerfish on repeat!

[@ligmasack9038]

Bird Box really has to be one of the worst Plots ever; I'm sorry you suffered through that one.

[@nategarage]

Day 28 of asking Roanoke to face his fears and cover Subnautica.

[@Scorpionwincheater88]

What's there to cover about it?

[@reesespuffs._.]

@@Scorpionwincheater88the bacterial disease I would assume

[@IntrusiveThoughts838]

@@reesespuffs._.and the unholy deep sea monstrosities in it

[@skeeter3969]

Dude, fuck off, your not the only one who's been doing this and has actually turned me off wanting the subnautica video

[@Scorpionwincheater88]

@@IntrusiveThoughts838 that's not what this channel is about

[@nielsandersen6164]

I believe that the creatures use memetic effects to drive humans into suicidal (and homicidal) trance. Specifically, effects targeting eyesight. Something similar to kill agents used by the O5s in the SCP universe.

[@RyuuRider]

It has really strong cognitohazard vibes. Honestly this kind of monster would fit perfectly well in the SCP universe.

[@Sammyii.]

I definitely want to see you cover some of Stargate. Wraith, Asgard, Jaffa, Goaul'd.. Wraith are definitely my recommendation for the theory of their evolution, their feeding on humans, their reproduction and also their overall appearance and capabilities. Edit: I will rob a bank if you don't

[@skeeter3969]

Yes there's so many good topics in Stargate, oh man what I would give for Stargate videos, I would be the day blah blah of asking Roanoke for subnautica guy but damn I'd get close

[@CalamityM]

In the books it's explained that the Wraith were the human victims of Ancients experiments using the Iratus bugs in an attempt to access the bugs' longevity. The survivors of this experiment are the forebears of the Wraith and one of them even uses the same cruel methods to turn Rodney into a Wraith (although he is later successful turned back into a human before the transformation became permanent). They called themselves "the Wraith" because they consider themselves the vengeful ghosts of their "dead" human selves and all those other humans of their planet who didn't survive the Ancients' experiment. "Todd" was one of these Originals and his Wraith name is "Seerer" since he lost his memory of his human name. Also, fun fact: the young Wraith girl Shepard's team stumbled on (and accidentally caused the death of) was in fact Todd's lost daughter.

[@anthonypra8899]

The male peacock has the most beautiful dance through a Peacock's eyes.

[@mikemurphy5898]

28:50 madd respect for Tom. The man went out totally selflessly.

[@theakspud]

Its because they knew about the eldritch angler fish that's been slowly rising to the surface

[@bryku]

Something I was wondering is... seizures. For some people flashing lights can cause seizures, so what if it is something like that? A specific wave length of light or energy that sort of trips a specific part of our brain into having seizures. This seizures typically cause someone to want to off themselves. However, for a select few with slight altered brain chemistry like a mental illness it affects other parts of the brain.

[@jedstanaland2897]

There could also be an issue with specific light patterns, which would be the only way that it would be able to transmit through the cameras. The cameras were either recording in black and white or being displayed in black and white either way the special photons couldn't be transmitted through a camera unless it was related to a specific and special pattern.

[@tektrixter]

Exactly, the weak point in the argument about bio-photons is that they wouldn't be transmitted by the camera. If, OTOH, it is a pattern of flashing lights or a pattern of colors then it could effect people from viewing it on a screen. In real life there is a link between flashing lights and changes in brain function - strobe sensitive epilepsy.

[@jedstanaland2897]

@tektrixter We already know of many ways to immediately induce vomiting through flashing lights and many other things. It could be bio-photons but it can't only be that it must have something else that is major to cause the problems it does. We also know that there are some situations where if scrambling an image will cause vomiting. There were problems with the first few versions of the digi camo uniforms for the military. The airforce and navy had the same problem and that was it made people violently I'll when they looked at them. I like the Bio-photon theory but it's impossible for it to be the only answer.

[@lahDsai]

I was thinking the same thing. First, the camera would need to be able to detect these bio-photons (without being damaged themselves) but even then a screen would be limited to whatever photons could be generated by LEDs/LCDs/whatever they're using. There's got to be more too it. I'd say posdibly some kind of strobing effect (like how flashing lights can cause seizures in some), but that would be offset by a screen's refresh rate. Curious what would happen if they had a camera that rather than video just took a still picture every 5 seconds or so.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

"I need to separate reality from porn" My guy the entire porn industry needs to do that.

[@TheSillyDragonfly]

3:35 tell me you have American Healthcare without telling me you have American Healthcare

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

🎶 We're gonna navigate the American Healthcare system. It's the best system of them aaaaall. 🎶 -Butters

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

What's interesting though, is that nowhere has free healthcare. You just pay ahead of time with taxes, whether or not you use it. And everyone shares the bill. Kinda like health insurance. Or exactly like it, really.

[@fernandomoraescrescencio6428]

​@@TheRealAaronSmithkeep coping with lifelong debt and people calling a Uber instead of an ambulance

[@Backinblackbunny009]

Hey, aetna is coming for everyone nowadays

[@ATF-]

@@fernandomoraescrescencio6428it’s takes 6 months to see a physician in Canada , I can see one tomorrow for $14.

[@SenhorAlien]

7:10 other research has shown that blue light makes no difference at all on your ability to sleep. The real problem is how electronic devices keep our brains entertained/agitated or something like that.

[@AdmiralSpaceballs]

I wonder what night vision goggles or those solar eclipses googles do in a situation like this

[@Raven-um2wf]

Would be worth a try at least

[@skeeter3969]

If they worked the army would be present in the movie and those fanatics wouldn't of lasted long

[@mayapilkey3577]

Beer can also trigger schizophrenia, but it takes a lot of alcohol and drinking on a regular basis to do so

[@jamescampbell6724]

That explains my former uncle.

[@mayapilkey3577]

@jamescampbell6724 schizophrenia is caused by damaged dopamine receptors, damaged dopamine, and damaged dopamine production in the brain. Anything that gives you a dopamine high can damage those receptors, and anything that effects those receptors negatively can damage them. Memory loss, amnesia, dementia, anxiety, depression, hallucinations, phsycosis, and phsycotic disorders are caused by damaged dopamine receptors. THC causes your brain to flood itself with dopamine, which can damage your dopamine receptors and production. The more dopamine released at once, the more damage it does. CBD has been found to indirectly interact with and repair both dopamine receptors and production. CBD also counteracts the effects of THC. Due to the entourage effect within cannabis it is both safe and impossible to be used in pharmaceuticals. There are 4,000 cannabinoids in cannabis and each one only works properly when al cannabinoids are present and in proper ratios. Because of this THC is relatively safe to consume when the entourage effect is in play, but it can turn lethal and will do permanent and severe brain damage to anyone who consumes pure thc without the entourage effect. CBD has a large number of medical benefits, which makes it perfect for treating a large number of medical conditions. With the entourage effect, you need a low dose of cbd in order to get its medical effects. Without the entourage effect, you need to increase the dose anywhere from 10 times to 100 times to get the same results. The maximum safe daily does of CBD is about 2,400 mg. It's been found to treat schizophrenia well for a few months at a dose of 600mg to 800mg a day, but it lost its effectiveness after a while. CBD has also been found to treat asthma if taken orally as it's an anti inflammatory like most asthma medications, it treats epilepsy extremely well and it treats any conditions caused by low dopamine and damaged dopamine receptors. Cbg or cbc is what treats cancer as it slows cancer growth and spread, cbn is a powerful sedative. Every one of the 4,000 chemicals in cannabis has a medical use, but they stop working right if one of the 4,000 other chemicals are removed. Also medical grade Marijuana either has such low thc levels that it has no effect, or it has no thc at all removing the risks associated with cannabis. If there's no thc then the dose has to be higher than the medical Marijuana with trace amounts of thc. Also you can't get high on medical Marijuana due to the low levels of thc. High thc Marijuana is only used for recreational purposes and all of it has a chance of giving you schizophrenia if you take to much

[@EveloGrave]

Holy shit, someone actually said "sclera" instead of "white part of the eye". You've earned my sub. I am so sick of people not using the proper term! So much love!

[@DucisImperium]

Weak

[@JKrain02]

Grand Wagoneer with a 304 V8. Drives like a tank.

[@gabrielasalvucci7211]

legit if any thing comes to end the world just take me out. Im not built for survival. I will cry

[@gamebawesome]

Plot Twist: The creatures looks like Angler Fish, which caused the people to off themselves

[@Raven-um2wf]

Giant airborne anger fish. It's the light emitting organ causing the damage.

[@nomcarver4436]

Not sure if you’ve done this before but you should cover the “Demons” of sons of the forest

[@chaosryans]

I always saw the creatures as something so abhorrent that it shatters people's sensibilities. Just starts causing immense stress and basically drives people insane. And then people that have issues with their world perception already are more into it like a person inspired by Saw vs being grossed out or whatever. The physical eye reaction I kind of figured was just an aesthetic choice for tension, but extreme stress can cause vessels to break but it makes more sense than monster shoots lasers into people's eyes that melts some people's brains.

[@outerlast]

not just the supply run. who's going to clean all the pee and poo from the birds and all other animals in the compound? lol

[@-Miasimon]

All I know is, I'd be dead day 1. Someone tells me that I can't look at something, you bet your ass that I'm going to look at that thing ASAP.

[@Vova-xv3zn]

It’s amazing that someone puts so much effort to rationally and scientifically explain the entities’ when it really looks like the movie authors just went with entities being spiritual/extradimensional and all their effects are “because magic”

[@skeeter3969]

Right, I don't feel like Roanoke explained anything, just sounded like oh you die you eyes hurt. Haha

[@scalawag8161]

I also have ocular migraines. Be aware if you have numbness, like in your fingers or toes (like they are asleep), as this is a "mini-stroke" and you should see a neurologist.

[@shawnshields521]

I had a buddy who went full-blown schizophrenic after he started smoking like you said. I'm afraid of having it. My family has a ton of mental issues on my mom's side and she had it. Both my sister and I fear of it starting for us.

[@vincentender1486]

Man I was fortunate to have a friend who also suffers from ocular migraines finally clue me into what those darn color shifties on my eyesight was and didnt have to waste money

[@basixs88]

Crazy that that mouse 12:13 is the exact same type I use😂

[@SevenGC89]

Wow all this time I thought what everyone in the movie was seeing was a live MGK guitar performance, it made perfect sense to me why they all self deleted after seeing that, I know I almost did when I saw it online.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

Honestly I wouldn't take my eyes out, I would just wear blacked out goggles.

[@Conqueror25]

27:31 IT'S BEEN 5 YEARS AND TOM HAS TONED MUSCLES LIKE HE GOES TO THE GYM EVERYDAY. LMAOOO

[@madladlabs]

IMO, the camera scene is probably the worst concept in the story. Seeing a digital image being able to do the same as seeing the creature directly implies that you can in theory generate an image (or a set of images if the effect requires seeing a "sequence") that will produce the same effect. That would suggest that humans could discover the effect naturally/randomly (perhaps at a less intense level) and fine tune the process of generating these images until they can be weaponized, so creatures wouldn't even be necessary.

[@RyuuRider]

I agree, the ability for the effect to take place over electronic representations of the data on a computer, even with lost visual clarity due to the nature of the technology, makes it seem like it's not as precise and special as it seems. If it can be reproduced on just any computer monitor regardless of visual clarity and physical proximity to the source, then it's very possible to weaponize. It's almost like a cognito-hazard where merely being aware of it is enough to have an effect. The only issue is getting the information of what it looks like without viewing it or triggering the effect - gonna lose a lot of people trying to figure that out just so that we can recreate and use it. I just find it impossible, but it does add a lot of danger to the monster if you can't even google what it looks like, lmao.

[@O-5Council]

This is likely due to the creatures being eldrich in nature, meaning they are incomprehensible to human minds, causing a self-destruct in the brain making you self-delete. (think how Cthulhu cases madness in all who sees it.)

[@shroomz2411]

16:35 Roanoke Gooning again 😭

[@oliviamoore3426]

Fun fact. Migraines makes a lot of people want to self destruct. It hurts so so bad

[@Potatoypotato]

As a pregnant woman, you absolutely love your baby before meeting them. Every little kick and squirm they give makes me giggle and i feel so proud of them. Its probably different for dads since they dont have the same connection before the birth, but as a mom, ive adored all my babies even before their birth

[@mari0182]

And just the thought of it being a baby of your loved one’s as well, if still together, also would make me feel really connected, I believe. Like a tiny mini-them ^^

[@NUMAP99]

I feel like either a thermal or nvg would solve this, since both modify or only show certain type of wavelengths. Also nvg amplifies light so you could possible see them.

[@marsw0rld15]

YES FINALLY Thank you for doing this film

[@mutantsupremacies]

as someone with schizophrenia, we do kind of have to learn how to look life in a completely different way to survive. we have to learn about our own condition and how to deal with psychoses. we have high rates of suicide, homeless, and police/authoritative abuse. not exactly comforted by having a one up on survival chances being better in this world lmao?? but just please keep in mind that in the real world, we are subjected to violence faaaaar more than committing it. more violence is committed than, like spousal abusers, cops, etc. we mostly want to be left alone

[@Brent-z2s]

Have you ever hallucinated.

[@AIRFORCENONE]

Work at an old folks home, and have a couple of actual schizophrenics.. my guy who will remain nameless, gets chased by shadows in the middle of the night. It’s the saddest feeling. All the people i have met with this diagnosis, don’t call themselves victims or even think of it in that manner. Mostly they are afflicted, and can’t understand why.

[@Brent-z2s]

​@@AIRFORCENONE do you think the hallucinations are totally random or related to something the subconscious mind is trying to warn about or process

[@grymmgaming7035]

Bullshit, acting like a victim.

[@AIRFORCENONE]

@@Brent-z2s i think it’s just chemicals running wild.. Im not dr or anything I can’t tell you for sure, but it’s crazy to see someone suffer this way 😮‍💨

[@Crackheadcentral2188]

So the creature emits light… *LIKE AN ANGLER FISH!*

[@madlighter9835]

STALKER VIDEO

[@skeeter3969]

Haha what, to explain that at 30fps all the mutants are extremely deadly adversaries, or at 60fps and above they are an absolute catwalk. That would be a boring video man haha

[@madlighter9835]

@@skeeter3969 no i mean realy this is an interesting topic cause in game they are discribed very poorly or at least he should play it

[@MintJellyProductions]

I love reading through all the ideas and theories about what hidden monsters are. Angels, gods, lovecraftian nighmares, the possibilities go on. Although what id love more is to see Roanoke cover the monster from Indigenous (2014)

[@Robertsonberg]

I am a Angler Fish (Pootsi). I am offended so often from this channel. I have contacted the ACLU/FOR OCEAN DWELLERS. YOU ON THE LIST!!!

[@alejandrobrown1499]

12:14 bro hogged all the light and didn't leave any for bronnie 😂

[@FromTheAshes0762]

No angler fish slander.

[@goblin3810]

It was a book because no movies have a single original idea now.

[@bluesirius1]

Did you notice the angler fish has its own light? Maybe there's a connection

[@fafnir491]

I always thought of these creatures as the ultimate Boggarts. Their appearance changes to match each person’s greatest fear. Some people have their sanity completely shattered by the experience, and they react through worship instead of self-harm.

[@warlok363]

I for one can appreciate the old school shotwave radio stock footage

[@Conqueror25]

How does Tom have such well defined gym bro muscles years into the new way of life 🗿

[@jonahsmedley3266]

Sandra bollock and John malckavich carried this movie. Not that this movie is bad but they're acting is what made it feel legitimately scary.

[@Markis2bi4]

I like this video’s study of the movie rather than the movie itself. Like, this “thing” and how far it gets seemed baffling, even for a movie plot.

[@elttilkire]

I know you have to adhere to the algorithm, but I would literally listen to you lecture on why you should/shouldn't season a cast iron pan.

[@immagical7036]

4:32 The eyes really freaked me out when I watched this. I actually couldn’t continue the movie lol Thank you for this video, it has allowed me to glimpse this movie XD

[@Conqueror25]

My biggest gripe with the movie is: The man with Sandra has like fully developed and visible musculature like he regularly goes to the gym despite them being years into the hostile living situation in the movie

[@StarParticleShade]

Ocular migraines are THE WORST. I too suffer from them. Sorry to hear that, Roanoke. :/

[@DavisXero]

The original creatures were worm like with giant baby heads(look it up, they’re hilarious). Sandra Bullock couldn’t keep a straight face while filming with the puppet they had so the directors decided it was better to remove them completely, lest the audience have the same reaction.

[@paladinboyd1228]

If i remember right that monster look was because Bullock's character having a fear of having kids, the creatures look different for everyone. Which would be difficult to get across with the goofy baby slug thing being the only one seen.

[@kawaiiqueee]

It was my first time witnessing a movie being hated because it was something different. Give it ten years and we'll see a boom in cosmic horror movies, this film is ahead of its time

[@JazzForYourSoul]

Oh hell naw Dr. Mambo got the built in Fallout New Vegas filter

[@DrInsane44]

Subbed. I watch alot of re-cap videos, and for whatever reason KZbin suggested you three times. The random Jeep de-rails made me stay.

[@majormapleleaf164]

i swear you did this before, am i trippimg?

[@zanitzeuken]

Tripping.

[@makeda6530]

As someone who also went to the hospital for right eye pain then referred to ophthalmology and was told it was probably migraines and given eye drops for “signs of allergy”, I feel ya Roanoke. Thanks for the video, Bird Box was interesting.

[@carmillaaaa]

If it’s any consolation, you still did the right thing getting it checked. I did the opposite in assuming I was just having an ocular migraine, waited a couple of days to see an ophthalmologist, then got sent to the hospital for what turned out to be optic neuritis. Always smarter to go to the hospital if your eye is being sus imo

[@godssicario2077]

This video has made me want to play through The Forest again. Love that background music.

[@uzimakiking]

6:30 always trips me up that our eyes are connected CRISS CROSS INSIDE US TO THE BRAIN IM LIKE...NO THE RIGHT HALF RIGHT EYE LEFT HALF LEFT EYE BUT NOPE lmao

[@scvrlett18]

5:39 how did that not get this video age restricted

[@nielsandersen6164]

My other hypothesis is that these are Angels (as per the “end of times” reference) manifesting to take your soul to a different realm like “heaven” or some other plane of existence, where your physical body is neither needed nor able to exist. The act of looking at one of them creates a connection where the “angel” is able to peer into the person’s mind/soul revealing its full angelic nature which the brain is unable to comprehend. This allows the “angel” to absorb (or just sever) the “soul” from the body which leaves the now soulless body to die. The drive to self-terminate could be a preexisting mechanism activated by the “soul” or an instruction planted into the mind where echoes of consciousness are enough to carry it out.

[@skeeter3969]

Yeah but that still suicide cuase the soul can't just leave a run self destruct code on the human body

[@Lecterl]

Well that runs contrary to most religious beliefs then. Because animals would all be required to have souls too. Not saying that they wouldn't, but many who subscribe to those beliefs are very salty about their insistence that humans are the only creatures to possess souls.

[@avarion9538]

@@Lecterl My cats have souls, or are, at least, posessed by demons. I am sure 🙂

[@nielsandersen6164]

@ but the creatures don’t cause animals to go suicidal so maybe this would actually confirm that humans are either the only beings with a soul or the only ones that the “angels” are there for. Or maybe humans are able to perceive them through sight but unable to comprehend them resulting in their brains going haywire. Since this is just fiction there are many possibilities as to where they came from and why now. Maybe they once visited the Earth before moving on and sowing the seeds of life in other corners of the universe. Now, they’ve returned to check on their “garden” and “harvest” the spiritual energy and memories to enrich their collective and evolve. Maybe they are extra-dimensional, and their manifestations are inherently unstable and incomprehensible which is why they don’t have a single shape or body but are kinda ethereal. Just like angels have had different depictions over time, some quite grotesque. Maybe our consciousness emerges from the sum total of the quantum states within the particles, atoms, molecules and cells in our bodies and the beings are feeding off of that like energy (knowledge IS power after all) that is worth the effort to seek out and acquire. Since reading a quantum state of a system unavoidably destroys said state, a complete readout of a person’s mind/soul would cause Theia-knows-what to a conscious mind. Most probably it would melt but maybe this act would be like sucking out the person’s soul leaving an empty shell.

[@Didymus20X6]

"BOY!" Maybe she thinks she's KRATOS.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

Tom isn't the step-dad, he's the dad who stepped up.

[@redman836]

gay

[@HODORNATION]

It's crazy that Jim from The Office was part of both the visual and auditory apocalypse on two separate occasions, what are the odds.

[@gingervikingjesus2351]

@26:33 They look like some Real Scary Story cover art & chapter art creatures!! 😅

[@Tk--cp9xw]

Also seeing how they all effected the dogs gave me hope that dogs too can build a resistance one dog ran while the other stood its ground barking even while looking at it and being compromised.

[@jargontrueseer]

24:05 the brown note, not brown noise lol. Brown noise is just nature sounds. The brown note is also literally a fairytale so idk what this has to do with biology

[@black79montecarlo123]

Great video!!! I feel ya with the ocular migraines, horrible stuff!