The Sentry: The Rise and Fall

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@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 ай бұрын
Y'all. Marvel has many Superman ripoffs from Hyperion to Gladiator to Virtue. Sentry was directly called "Marvel's Superman" in the original interviews for the Wizard Magazine hoax.
@shadysif6220
@shadysif6220 11 ай бұрын
Superman is a Hugo Danner, John Carter and Moses/Messianic ripoff.
@emperormegaman3856
@emperormegaman3856 11 ай бұрын
I just saw your video on where was Krypton's green lantern it's destruction. It made me wonder, what is the relative strength of daxamites compared to kryptonians such as Supes? Can Sodam Yat be considered a good approximation of what Kal-El as a green lantern would have been if things had gone as planned by the guardians.
@JoJoOnYouTube
@JoJoOnYouTube 9 ай бұрын
Wasn't the same for Thor?
@coolwata105
@coolwata105 7 ай бұрын
Marvel and DC legals stayed working 24/7, suing each other back and forth.
@Thenameless1
@Thenameless1 7 ай бұрын
Talking of Hyperion, I hope you do eventually make a video discussion Squadron Supreme in detail.
@pious83
@pious83 Жыл бұрын
Sentry is a classic example of ultra powerful (and interesting) characters that are creatively hamstrung by Marvel's reliance on returning to the status quo.
@JosephRockford
@JosephRockford Жыл бұрын
Sentry returning to the status quo is interesting because he’s an alcoholic and void is a metaphor for addiction. So the return is him relapsing
@pious83
@pious83 Жыл бұрын
@@JosephRockford Except allegories for addiction have been done many places elsewhere with older, ongoing characters. Let alone Iron Man being the defacto alcoholic. On and off the wagon. They had the opportunity to do more with Sentry. Exploring the nature of reality and perception, as in his debut mini-series. Instead he falls into the same character loop as Franklin Richards, Legion etc
@McJethroPovTee
@McJethroPovTee Жыл бұрын
​@@pious83wait what happened to Franklin Richard again? Last I heard they found out he subconsciously made himself a mutant but he is not actually a mutant. Is he a mutant again???
@pious83
@pious83 Жыл бұрын
@@McJethroPovTee He is both no longer a Mutant (no idea what the justification was there) and losing his powers, every time he uses them. The same kind of nerf that all the character with real power in Marvel receive. To keep the lesser characters in capes and spandex from becoming redundant.
@JosephRockford
@JosephRockford 11 ай бұрын
@@pious83 no the void is a metaphors to addiction it’s his alcoholism what he becomes when he gives in that’s the point
@matt15
@matt15 Жыл бұрын
I love how Marvel did the Sentry as a forgotten hero, not only in universe but in the real world as well, it’s such a cool idea
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 11 ай бұрын
It’s almost like an ARG Pretty cool
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 11 ай бұрын
So basically, Sentry's like that human Poochie guy who appeared in one episode of the Simpsons: comes completely out of nowhere, is treated like he's been there from the start, is loved by everyone, and is forgotten about the next episode.
@Devlerbat
@Devlerbat Жыл бұрын
My first exposure to Sentry was World War Hulk were his mental illness was basically just the plot device to explain why he didn't fight Hulk until after Hulk had already beaten the Illuminati and his inclusion basically seemed to be just "only character on Earth strong enough to fight a Hulk that is this pissed off".
@SomeRandomJackAss
@SomeRandomJackAss Жыл бұрын
One thing that is not mentioned in this video is that Sentry isn't just strong enough to beat the Hulk, he's the only person that the Hulk (not Bruce Banner) truly considers his friend. So, it wasn't really about Sentry being the strongest (though the military treated it like that in the story), but actually it's about the Hulk's last true friend (one that he didn't feel had betrayed him) trying to talk some sense into him.
@gigatronusprime
@gigatronusprime 11 ай бұрын
I actually liked that WWH re-inforced the idea from Jenkin's original Sentry story, that Hulk and Sentry were good friends.
@kaptainkibiroproductions45
@kaptainkibiroproductions45 11 ай бұрын
It's not just that Hulk and Sentry are friends (and he's not Hulk's only friend either) but his energy source literally emits warm light and induces positive energy in anything it comes into contact with, essentially his entire power-set is to The Hulk like what Green Kryptonite is to Superman. Add that on top of how he routinely slap-boxes cosmic entities in his stories, it's a perfect indicator that when The Hulk is completely just ignoring all of Sentry's energy and matching him blow for blow and beating the shit out of him like he did in WWH and Beyond.... That's how you KNOW you're dealing with a well beyond average Hulk.
@iku27
@iku27 4 ай бұрын
@@SomeRandomJackAss wait sentry and hulk are friends? since when
@PancakeDiaries
@PancakeDiaries 4 ай бұрын
​@@iku27it's like that in his origin story... Hulk calls him "Golden Man." They're friends like Black Bolt and Absorbing Man
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Hope you all enjoy the video! The Sentry is one of my favourite Marvel characters and the history behind his creation is so fascinating. Thanks for having me on, Drake!
@Toki-Ralte
@Toki-Ralte Жыл бұрын
Hi OwenLikesComics, are you gonna cover Fall of X event??
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
​@@Toki-Ralteeventually, sure! My next X-Men video will likely be on Inferno and the end of Hickman's run.
@Toki-Ralte
@Toki-Ralte Жыл бұрын
@@OwenLikesComics awesome, I'm always stoked for anything Hickman related, can't wait for it.. Good luck and thanks dude 🙂👍🏻
@Chalepastel
@Chalepastel 11 ай бұрын
OH SHIT YOU'RE HOT!
@CloroxBleach-qy7vy
@CloroxBleach-qy7vy 11 ай бұрын
Why is the Sentry One of your favorite characters?
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 Жыл бұрын
Sentry is easily my favorite Superman "ripoff". The writers really wanted to tell smtg interesting with the character & his origin is absolutely amazing. So glad to see a video on him!
@thefollower2933
@thefollower2933 Жыл бұрын
Even though I don't know too much about sentry, he definitely seems like the most interesting superman ripoff, others just seem like "THIS, is what would happen if superman existed in the real world, grow up, people!" Whereas Sentry genuinely seems like a character that takes the concept of superman, and adds a spin on the idea of "what happens when a man has the powers of a god" by adding "what if he had mental health problems" to make it feel similar, but still enough to make him stand out as his own character.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 Жыл бұрын
@@thefollower2933 True! You summed it well.
@saliakamara9872
@saliakamara9872 11 ай бұрын
Homelander is better than him
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 11 ай бұрын
@@saliakamara9872 Only the TV version
@BLACKSTA361
@BLACKSTA361 11 ай бұрын
Goku will always be the best superman ripoff
@Elliecesa
@Elliecesa Жыл бұрын
My main fear with the Sentry is how the writer tackles his Schizophrenia, and it can easily end up badly. With how many interesting themes The Sentry has going for it I really wish Ewing writes the character at some point, I think he would do an amazing job as much as he did in Immortal Hulk or his amazing start in Immortal Thor
@ahhcount
@ahhcount 7 ай бұрын
He had a series called "contest of champions" that had an alternate reality Sentry in it and is teased to bring out the void, but he returned back to normal off-screen and nothing came out of it. It is probably due to needing to focus on the main story.
@metroplextitan8816
@metroplextitan8816 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they are overusing the fact that Sentry is truly immortal. When Superman dies there are consequences, when Sentry dies he just spawns back eventually and the major threat gets handled by other heroes. And that's why he's a perfect punching bag/benchmark for villains (Knull in king in black storyline for example).
@Never_heart
@Never_heart Жыл бұрын
As a fan of Warhammer, I can say that the second you make a character actually immortal rather than functionally immortal, they become the defacto gobber punching bag to establish threat for the villians and awesome heroicness from heroes.
@Zekrel
@Zekrel 7 ай бұрын
I agree but it was pretty cool when Knull absorbed Sentry’s dark side, The Void, since Knull is a god of the black/dark/void.
@AmericanBrit9834
@AmericanBrit9834 2 ай бұрын
@@Never_heart *COUGH*Lucius*COUGH*
@launcherx2044
@launcherx2044 Ай бұрын
​@@AmericanBrit9834 *COUGH* avatar of kaine * COUGH COUGH*
@AmericanBrit9834
@AmericanBrit9834 Ай бұрын
@@launcherx2044 Incidentally, I do actually have a really bad cough right now. Like, I've been coughing up my lungs for the past week
@TheChrisHype
@TheChrisHype Жыл бұрын
I read the Wizard article at the time, and honestly, fell for it hook, line, and sinker. I was too young to actually understand what the ramifications would be of having a Pre-FF Marvel character, but still thought the entire thing was cool as hell. When Wizard later announced it was a hoax and did their entire article revealing how they got away with the ruse, I went from thinking the Sentry idea was cool to it being absolutely brilliant. I only wish the character had the interest and staying power worth of so much time and energy put into him behind the scenes.
@hartthorn
@hartthorn Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a way to help slot the Sentry into a more permanent position would be to have the character himself debate how dangerous it is for ANY one person to have his amount of power, much less Bob specifically. And basically have the character re-write himself to be more limited in his abilities. LIke, we've already gotten the Marvel Superman story. We don't really need it still. Get him down to a Wonderman level, and he'd fit better.
@Dikarika
@Dikarika Жыл бұрын
Gladiator is another interesting take on Superman from Marvel. Having superpowers tied to confidence is really thought provoking and has many parallels to real life.
@drpepperman2765
@drpepperman2765 11 ай бұрын
Kinda sounds like a green lantern ring, except instead of willpower it runs on confidence
@darkdog42
@darkdog42 11 ай бұрын
Gladiator is my favourite superman rip off for that reason it’s so much more interesting than hyperions whole thing
@BLACKSTA361
@BLACKSTA361 11 ай бұрын
Interesting So when he's in a stable relationship he should be even stronger
@berane8909
@berane8909 11 ай бұрын
Gladiator IS the Marvel Superman.
@AmJason
@AmJason Жыл бұрын
Sentry is such a cool character, he deserves way more attention imo.
@emperormegaman3856
@emperormegaman3856 Жыл бұрын
I feel like what killed the character is that writers loved the idea so much they gave him too much attention for a short period of time.
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn Жыл бұрын
Thunderbolts
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Жыл бұрын
​@@emperormegaman3856At what point was that? Because he never had too much attention at any point in time, he only has about five solo series in over 20 years of his publication.
@NatrixNate
@NatrixNate Жыл бұрын
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 In Brian Michael Bendis's avenger's run he was used way too much along with the like 4 or 5 event comics that came out back to back during the 2000's era of marvel. Didn't help that Bendis made the Sentry way more overpowered than what the original creator intented which meant that some sort of lame excuse had to be made as to why he didn't take part in the event.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Жыл бұрын
@@NatrixNate No he didn't Sentry was hardly used in Bendis' run, he'd either have sentry run away or bench him from the story. No Bendis didn't make sentry more powerful than Jenkins, in Jenkins original story sentry had enough power to destroy the marvel universe and everyone in it, he even recently said that his third book on the original sentry story would have been about him becoming a god and what it means for him to be one. Even Bendis didn't know what to do with his character he even tried and failed at making yet another retcon to the Sentry's origin story.
@rickythemaddragonxiong8757
@rickythemaddragonxiong8757 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about Sentry in Ultimate Fantastic 4, the issue where Marvel Zombies made their 1st debut before having their own series, the origin of the Hunger Virus was started by Sentry but his design is slighty different looking, shorter hair which also has a hair bang thing like Superman and that was because one of the artist almost used a zombie Superman looking character without the S logo but to avoid a lawsuit from DC the Zombie Superman look alike was quickly changed to Sentry.
@MusicLover-my6fo
@MusicLover-my6fo Жыл бұрын
Theory - If the Fantastic Four have been in the MCU the entire time and they're just trapped in the Negative Zone, then what if Mister Fantastic already made the formula that turns Robert Reynolds into the Sentry before the Fantastic Four got trapped? Synopsis - Mister Fantastic creates the Sentry formula just as an experiment attempting to improve on the Super Solider Serum but puts the project on hold because of the anti-matter Negative Zone discovery. Robert, already an addict, hears of something that can sustain his urges as Steve Rodgers couldn't get intoxicated upon receiving the serum. Robert breaks into the Baxter Building and steals the serum and momentarily ceases his urges, but his previous life as an addict comes back to haunt him as the Void. This would have the same "embedded" bond between Robert and Reed in the MCU.
@МаксБурый-р2ю
@МаксБурый-р2ю Жыл бұрын
Cool idea, but do you really think disney will do anything close to that?
@concept5631
@concept5631 11 ай бұрын
​@@МаксБурый-р2ю And is Disney capable of doing in-depth storytelling anymore?
@willsith9762
@willsith9762 Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest problems with people's perspective on Superman and Superman adjacent characters is reducing them to "the strongest guy" Whether it's from the writers who are only interested in showing off how strong they are, or readers who consider these characters boring because all they've seen is that strength and not the incredibly complex characters that lie beneath.
@fengusburnt
@fengusburnt Жыл бұрын
I hit my breaking point with the Sentry when they did a funeral issue for him and it was revealed that he had taken Rogue's virginity... sort of. It wasn't that specific moment (though it was comically out of left field), I just realized I couldn't stand the constant "Oh Sentry! I just remember you were the most important character in my history!" Reveals. He's a recton machine that never leads anywhere.
@galaxydragon1234
@galaxydragon1234 11 ай бұрын
That, my friend, is called bad writing. The sentry was fine where he was, a forgotten hero who sacrificed his all for everyone else. If they wanted to bring him back they could have put some effort, but instead he became the deus ex machina mcguffin problem solver he never was intended to be. Also I actually liked the Rogue thing, but they never said that they were in any relationship other than really close friends, and him comforting her
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
People keep comparing Sentry to Superboy Prime, while more people are comparing Hyperion to Superman.
@PragmaticGolem
@PragmaticGolem Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, Superboy prime and Sentry are both are very meta in their depictions.
@nellisswanepoel7014
@nellisswanepoel7014 Жыл бұрын
Superman and his four rip-offs sentry, Hyperion, homelander and omni man
@The_Mad_Titan_420
@The_Mad_Titan_420 Жыл бұрын
​​@@nellisswanepoel7014 Are you saying that these Superman rip-offs are more popular than other rip-offs/parodies/inspirations or are you saying Superman only has four rip-offs?
@JoJoZaka
@JoJoZaka Жыл бұрын
​@@nellisswanepoel7014Jesus and his 6 ripoffs: superman, omniman, sentry, hyperion, homelander, and goku
@robo-nidai4236
@robo-nidai4236 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Mad_Titan_420 I think it was also meant to be a cute reference to when Superman had four replacements during the events of The Death and Return of Superman.
@cwooddirector
@cwooddirector 11 ай бұрын
I like how they chose to demonstrate The Sentry's strength and dual persona of The Void in Marvel Snap by having it where when you play him it also spawns a The Void card in the right location. The Sentry has 10 power in the game (which is a lot for a 4 cost card) and The Void has -10 power so it is a good match. Most people avoid playing The Sentry because of The Void, but with the right cards you can make it work, such as using Viper to give move The Void to your opponent's side of the board or using a destruction card like Carnage or Deathlok to get rid of it.
@jokerpandroidc9807
@jokerpandroidc9807 11 ай бұрын
id love for him to be able to be recaled atleast once into ur deck or hand for dracula and colector and be able to be in both sides like 'always has been' and board control ,the opponment can do the same (for both) by filling sentry baord and playing over him like 'no it hasent or like what marvel do to him' and even make get +1-1 whenever its recale for multiple times and see can make the othe have him
@blackphoenix77
@blackphoenix77 Жыл бұрын
The original Sentry miniseries was amazing and nothing done with the character since then can hold a candle to it in my opinion. The story should have continued with Scout taking over as the Sentry and Rob Reynolds never regaining his powers or memories
@SomeRandomJackAss
@SomeRandomJackAss Жыл бұрын
Read that last miniseries Drake recommends in this video. It kind of covers that ground.
@blackphoenix77
@blackphoenix77 11 ай бұрын
@@SomeRandomJackAss Is that the one where Sentry and the Void merge into one person at the end?
@SomeRandomJackAss
@SomeRandomJackAss 11 ай бұрын
@@blackphoenix77 Yes.
@supercard9418
@supercard9418 11 ай бұрын
Lemire’s Sentry series was great and the ending had so much storytelling potential. Then King in Black happens and Sentry just…dies. The concept of Sentry has so much good ideas to tap into, but since Marvel is Marvel it never gets developed or explored properly
@bella-yl6te
@bella-yl6te 11 ай бұрын
did you see the recent comic marvel is putting out? since the sentry is dead, they’re gonna introduce new characters that will inherit his powers, which is kinda… “um okay”.
@supercard9418
@supercard9418 11 ай бұрын
@@bella-yl6te no way. Wtf? 💀 which comic is this?
@Tiggeralt
@Tiggeralt Жыл бұрын
shout out to everyone who first encountered The Sentry in Marvel Snap. honestly love how that game shines a spotlight on lesser-known characters
@sebastianevangelista4921
@sebastianevangelista4921 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to his death in King in Black it is pretty cool that he was ripped in half by the god of the symbiotes given how he had previously ripped Carnage in half. Also, I absolutely love your Miracleman video but it would be cool if you delved into the story a bit more especially now as Neil Gaiman's Silver Age story has been going on.
@HelloMisterJAMWAH
@HelloMisterJAMWAH 11 ай бұрын
Well, I'm donating almost all of my comics this month but you just convinced me to keep that initial mini series. I'd forgotten how much I loved it back then. The Sentry exemplifies the view that not every character in comics needs multiple stories. Sometimes the best thing is to tell the important one and draw a line under it. By design, he should've been left alone but IP does need milking, after all. Ironically, while his story is very cinematic and would make a genuinely thrilling MCU entry, announcing it would mean the twist would be spoiled all over the internet immediately.
@HelloMisterJAMWAH
@HelloMisterJAMWAH 11 ай бұрын
Also, hoaxes in fiction are THE BEST. Nothing excites me like finding out I've been played as a way of enhancing the story experience.
@Xoulrath_
@Xoulrath_ 11 ай бұрын
I really wish that the characters that are that powerful would have more limited runs that matter storywise. I feel as though that is the better alternative and is preferable, as opposed to simply trying to be forced into everything monthly, just for money. I've loved that Silver Surfer, my personal favorite comic character of all time, has had a ton of limited issues, as opposed to trying to force bland stories just to have a monthly book. Of course, part of that is sales numbers, but those sales numbers are indicative of the stories that are being told. Bad stories lead to bad sales. Silver Surfer Black was fucking epic. I'd love to see more stuff like that for characters like The Sentry as well. Marvel and DC always feel the need to do these massive crossovers yearly, telling absurd stories in the process, just to get readers to need to buy more books. When they could instead tell some fucking amazing stories that are 10 issues or less, once or twice a year, and generate the same revenue, while endearing themselves to the fans as the storytellers that they are supposed to be.
@cyclopsdidnothingwrong6104
@cyclopsdidnothingwrong6104 Жыл бұрын
You bringing up the Sentry’s ties to drug addiction and mental health made me realize something really funny. Last year Hasbro put out a new Sentry action figure in their Marvel Legends line. It was exclusive to Walgreens, a chain of American drugstores.
@trinstonmichaels7062
@trinstonmichaels7062 Жыл бұрын
Sentry is a cool character but there are many stories that can be written after his struggle with the void.
@Ezim
@Ezim Күн бұрын
Came here to watch this in light of the Thumderbolts trailer and honestly it's amazing seeing such a high concept idea done back in the day. It's a shame his cinematic debut probably won't be as good but if nothing else I'm curious about some of the older books mentioned here
@TheAntiburglar
@TheAntiburglar 11 ай бұрын
Everything about this is absolutely fascinating and super cool, but something you said at the very end really struck me: The Sentry is reliving the same story beats over and over again. Just like fighting addiction can feel like reliving the same fight over and over again. Given The Sentry's unique relationship to the Marvel Universe, I think it would be really interesting to see his meta narrative of recycling be woven into his actual story, kinda like how Thor broke the cycle of ragnarök by killing Those Who Sit Above In Shadow.
@awesomeboy1151
@awesomeboy1151 10 ай бұрын
When I read King In Black, When Knull killed Sentry by rip & tear him apart. I could imagine Ares being there and say to Sentry this, "YES! Thats how it's feels!"
@juliiju0484
@juliiju0484 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how overlooked all of his solo books were, considering how good most of them were (imo).
@xharris8515
@xharris8515 Жыл бұрын
Ok but how has no one done a Moon Knight x Sentry teamup! they're both parallels to DC's worlds finest, have been the mental health angle, were a part of Marvel Knights, and have a tendency to be quite ultraviolent
@SomeRandomJackAss
@SomeRandomJackAss Жыл бұрын
They did meet in a Moon Knight issue. Vengeance of the Moon Knight #2.
@thesatelliteslickers907
@thesatelliteslickers907 Жыл бұрын
the difference is that the moon knight system is both way more unhinged and also well adjusted than sentry/the void
@christopherhart4058
@christopherhart4058 Жыл бұрын
Loved this great vid, remember being fully tricked by the Wizard article as a kid. As you pointed out The Sentry is a nuanced character i know he’s rumored to be in The Thunderbolts movie hopefully they do more with than just evil Superman. Would love to see him get his own Disney+ series. Hope all is well!
@tericottaclay9462
@tericottaclay9462 Жыл бұрын
Original quasar would body the sentry. Maybe only matched to original adam warlock before he got nerfed
@forestadamo4209
@forestadamo4209 Ай бұрын
Ah yeah a stupid debate about power levels on a video that absolutely doesn't mention that at all. That's what's wrong with the comics community, debating about who's the strongest like little kids instead of just enjoying the stories
@geodude0744
@geodude0744 11 ай бұрын
Without a shadow of doubt, Sentry is one of my all-time favorite characters in comics and now learning how Marvel practically gaslighted their entire audience into thinking he always existed since the start to play into his first story's setup is just another example as to why I love this character. Which is why it pisses me off when he's regarded as nothing more than a Superman copycat/ stand in when he's frankly far more unique of a character than (mostly Superman fans) will ever give him credit for, when comparing the two. I'm glad to hear there'll be a new series coming out for him. If done right, hopefully Sentry will be given a spotlight Marvel can't ignore to mess it up.
@HarrytheDinosaur
@HarrytheDinosaur Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I can’t believe that Marvel would deceive their own readers to build the story!
@HarrytheDinosaur
@HarrytheDinosaur Жыл бұрын
Omigosh what a great comment
@booksvsmovies
@booksvsmovies 11 ай бұрын
Retroactive continuity is one of my favourite things to see superhero comics utilize given their rich and storied history. My favourite use of this is probably Jessica Jones in Alias but the way the Sentry was created is also so fascinating
@Mr_Nobody2512
@Mr_Nobody2512 Жыл бұрын
Hey drake, glad to actually see something like this be talked about! I just wanted to let you know btw, technically Sentry is more of an expy, or specifically a Superman Substitute. Great stuff to mention the poor use of the guy, probably return after that god awful cates event
@Paur
@Paur Жыл бұрын
What they've been doing with Sentry recently has been rather annoying. Literally just a really powerful punching bag that pops out of nowhere to be beaten up. I think it's because they have no idea what to do with him. Either they play on his mental illness or he just shows up in these weird almost non-sequitur appearances as an enemy to defeat.
@kami_in_the_skye
@kami_in_the_skye Жыл бұрын
I still love the fabricated history of the Sentry & roping Stan Lee in to play it up & everything way more than the character himself, but I have slowly grown to like & appreciate him quite a bit over the years. Hope the new series gets him back to what makes him interesting and has a lot of success.
@maxordman4100
@maxordman4100 11 ай бұрын
This video was very informative and well done. I found out about the Sentry from New Avengers, and I certainly like the character. There’s also this montage video on KZbin done by Guigo, which features the song- “Invincible”. It’s so much fun to watch. Thank you for doing this video. I need to check out more of the solo series about this character! It’s also very cool to learn about Stan Lee’s involvement in the ruse. Stan was always such a nice guy! It sounds like you’re also going through some mental health problems and that seems to be troubling more than a couple of my favorite KZbinrs right now. I wish you well dude, and I hope you feel better real soon! Keep doing what you do!
@jahrusalem3658
@jahrusalem3658 7 ай бұрын
Sentry is actually one of my favorite Marvel characters. He's such an interesting character to me, I love his internal struggles with Void and the fact that he's actually so terrified of his own power he barely leaves his home. Also, seeing him let loose from time to time is kickass, that fight with Hulk was peak Marvel. I also found his strange yet completely unintentional similarities with Scion from Worm hilarious.
@Adobo809
@Adobo809 11 ай бұрын
My friend and I were talking the other day about how Planet Hulk was wasted in Thor Ragnarok, and I came up with an idea of how they can still do a similar story line with an MCU Illuminati and have Sentry sent to another planet because of the threat of the Void.
@Dr.Lovehandles
@Dr.Lovehandles Жыл бұрын
It’s weird seeing Paul Jenkins so young here because he and his son actually come to the comic shop I work at here in Georgia pretty frequently. His son plays D&D with us weekly. They’re good people. 4:28
@juliusbossman7280
@juliusbossman7280 10 ай бұрын
I think a Sentry and Moon Knight team up would be pretty good. Khonsu is trying to get Marc under his control again but he remembers once Khonsu admitting that the Void scares him so Moon Knight finds ways to revive Sentry. Plus it feels like something Marvel would do if so they can say to DC, we can make a World's Finest run better than you
@Martiancookiehunter365
@Martiancookiehunter365 Жыл бұрын
It sucks what happened to the sentry he doesn't get the love or attention he deserves these days and it's rare he gets his own solo comics
@demo0831
@demo0831 Ай бұрын
Sentry is specifically cool because hes an unreliable superman. I think him coming not always being able to deal with a threat because of internal struggles and fear of the repruccussions of his dark alter ego is awesome. Basically he should litterally be goku. A character whos appearance gives a sense of safety but always arrives late
@thanoseid2883
@thanoseid2883 11 ай бұрын
sentry honestly is underrated. he has a very interesting storyline and is a good lesson about many things like addiction and power and consequences. plus his prodigy putting more lessons.
@Busker_3000
@Busker_3000 11 ай бұрын
I'm not a comic book person. But I like the Sentry idea. That graphic novel is the one and only comic book I've ever bought. It was neat, a whole bunch of little comics in one, with all the different art styles. It was fun.
@galaxydragon1234
@galaxydragon1234 11 ай бұрын
I hate marvel for what they did to sentry. They turned an all-powerful but interesting complex character into a deus ex machina mcguffin plot device with no purpose. It only shows the inability to write true good stories, and instead trying to fic their mistake they want to replace robert reynolds with some random person who no one cares about in the upcoming comic series. Its the reason why i started to despise marvel and hope for the companys downfall Also wish you didn't call him a ripoff
@HarrytheDinosaur
@HarrytheDinosaur Жыл бұрын
Always been interested in the Sentry, thanks for making a video like this!
@darthGOLDAR
@darthGOLDAR 11 ай бұрын
Hey Drake, take it for me, a guy who actually read the Century comics back in the day as it was dropping. The whole thing started off as an April Fools joke and boy,😏did they get us good!
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, by the looks of it The Sentry should have never been a permanent addition.
@MarquisdeSuave
@MarquisdeSuave 11 ай бұрын
Sentry always seemed like he was an Alan Moore character in a Stan Lee world.
@johnathancopson9328
@johnathancopson9328 Жыл бұрын
I always found the Sentry behind the scenes creation interesting.
@swandive46
@swandive46 11 ай бұрын
It'd be awesome if you could go over the 6 (?) different version of Carnage, as I've been having trouble keeping track of which symbiote is which, especially considering Carnage Forever.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 ай бұрын
The good news is that you can always search my channel before requesting content. 😜 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpnFg56JaqlmibMsi=mX4pDpG8BlCY3pqg
@The_Texorcist
@The_Texorcist 17 күн бұрын
I think Marvel did the Sentry character pretty dirty. Starting off, making them more and more god level to powerful was a mistake. Sure make them super powerful but still have some disadvantages and how you could even excuse those weaknesses as him holding back because letting loose put them at risk of becoming the void. And that’s what they should’ve focused on that this character who could be one of the best of us could also easily become the end of us. How come see his powers as almost a monkey on his back because he knows that these aren’t gifts but a constant reminder of the ticking time bomb that he is. Then once the character has served its purpose and you’ve mind as much stories out of him as possible you have his swan song… He starts losing his battle to the void, the heroes of the Marvel universe join forces to stop the void, but are easily defeated. When things look their darkest the Sentry who was still struggling inside realizes what it is to be a true hero and in a moment, he regains control and sacrifices himself, so the universe can live. A true hero has died. That’s how you do it. Don’t keep him around to be a deus ex machina.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Жыл бұрын
Let's help get Owen to 100,000 subscribers and let him know that I sent you! youtube.com/@OwenLikesComics
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz Жыл бұрын
How is not he not over 100k already? That's nearly criminal!
@pierrebuieii3908
@pierrebuieii3908 11 ай бұрын
Hey look at hyporion he’s evil 👿
@Abominatrix650
@Abominatrix650 11 ай бұрын
Sentry has always been that international character that I don't really know anything about and his real world publication history and the almost "prank" nature of it is truly fascinating! Thank you, Drake!
@tubefaze
@tubefaze 11 ай бұрын
Sentry is more like a science based Shazam/Black Adam instead of Superman IMO. Hyperion is Marvel's Superman.
@UltimateSpider1385
@UltimateSpider1385 Жыл бұрын
The Sentry needs to return in a new comic arc that revolves around him. I can think of a few Comic book writers who can bring back Marvel's Superman. Like Al Ewing, Donny Cates, Greg Pak, Alex Ross, Dan Slott, or even Nick Spencer.
@ItsYaBoiPhoenix
@ItsYaBoiPhoenix 11 ай бұрын
Sentry is one of my favorite Marvel heroes, he is a truly intriguing and terrifying character. As much as I want an MCU movie for just him, I feel like they’d just mess it up and make him a boring cookie cutter villain character in someone else’s movie.
@TheHotnessIsHere
@TheHotnessIsHere 11 ай бұрын
I was introduced to comics in the mid-aughts via The Sentry. I didn't know then, but he resonated with me due to my mental illnesses and addiction. He holds a very special place in my heart and I am usually saddened when Marvel uses him time and time again for the same storyline. Hopefully someday we see something good for Robert Reynolds.
@DetroitAlan01
@DetroitAlan01 11 ай бұрын
After years of trying to get Sentry to connect with readers, I’d have killed the character off. Reynolds would have died the epitome of the hero’s death, to save Earth from a Galactus level threat. Then, after the character had been declared dead and mourned, would’ve shown he wasn’t. That he’d actually been ripped across billions of light years to a point in space so remote, the beings there had never heard of the Skrulls/Kree/Shi’Ar or even Galactus. In this galaxy that was largely lawless and chaotic, Sentry would end up becoming the law. So far removed from the MU, Reynolds could actually go all out. No more holding back or playing nice. He could do whatever he felt he needed to to get the job done. That’d be the hook, what can a character as powerful as him do when they aren’t holding back?
@ronaustin8381
@ronaustin8381 8 ай бұрын
The problem with the Sentry is you could only go over the struggles with addiction so many times.
@ryanfitzgerald9833
@ryanfitzgerald9833 11 ай бұрын
philosophically the entire point of the sentry is that he is unstoppable. as the boy said about brolly. "HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM!" he should be considered like a limitless generator rather than an infinite power battery every action a separation of molecules forming a metaphorical static charge that grows and grows and grows to a stratospheric level and beyond until it is bigger than the entire earth itself, forming a temporary power like the wrath of god that splits the clouds, rends the heavens, blinds the world, slags metal, pavement and stone alike and scorches the air and earth. but unlike lightning the sentry's power is not required to limit itself in even the ways that lightning is. robert reynolds has power beyond anything and everything in any possible universe... but what hell will it create to use it. cause eventually those charges will balance out. that power is the void .it right in the name. the reason he cannot be killed is that he is not a thing, he is a sentient force of nature. the biggest monkeys paw ever . the reason you dont use him to solve x event is because it is a bad idea. but this is perfect for marvel and comics as long as they dont try to fudge the numbers too much.
@nielsfrederiksen6636
@nielsfrederiksen6636 11 ай бұрын
Sentry has so much potential and they could tell some really great stories with him. Cant wait for the MCU to kill him off as a generic villain in his first appearence.
@WillTheGreatest
@WillTheGreatest Жыл бұрын
I will say tricking your fanbase to thay degree is a pretty genius level, blair witch esque marketing tactic that would be harder to replicate now
@Thenameless1
@Thenameless1 11 ай бұрын
Read the original series by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee and while it was amazing, my only complaint is it didn't feel like there's was enough focus on the more human side of The Sentry. Like I was first drawn into the character because like you said, he bared resemblance to Miracleman in alot of ways, but the stronger insight into Mick Moran's humanity isn't quite here. Still a great series worth reading though.
@eddiegesch6299
@eddiegesch6299 11 ай бұрын
Sentry isn't the marvel equivalent of superman, hyperion is.
@RumForBreakfast
@RumForBreakfast Жыл бұрын
I felt like Sentry was a really distinct and interesting yeah.
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Ай бұрын
You could make a playlist of "evil Supermen" from lots of publishers
@abc_cba
@abc_cba Жыл бұрын
For me Sentry made no sense after Hyperion tossed him, that's when i knew Blue Marvel and Hyperion make more sense than Sentry, more specifically Hyperion!
@abc_cba
@abc_cba 11 ай бұрын
@ComicDrake. get lost
@jacobdacosta3980
@jacobdacosta3980 9 ай бұрын
Hang on, hang on! No mention of The long forgotten, Golden Age, Blond, A list hero Triumph from DC who 'dropped back' in to continuity mid 90's? It's interesting that Marvel duped the audience into thinking the character was a real forgotten hero, I like that as its ballsy and the only way this could be done is in a time when the interenet was young but hey, credit where its due, love him or hate him, Triumph and DC did it first.
@heyitsfranklynn168
@heyitsfranklynn168 2 ай бұрын
I love the sentry so much. I have bipolar disorder and really struggled with even wanting to wake up in the morning and having to make the conscious decision to keep living. Reading all the sentry comics i could get my hands on and arguing about how he could beat superman on forums was a big thing that kept me centered. Hes probably my favorite superhero.
@freman007
@freman007 Жыл бұрын
As a standing rule at Marvel, the greater a character's powers, the worse their mental issues. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. Thor is probably the only obvious exception.
@Xoulrath_
@Xoulrath_ 11 ай бұрын
Thor can't not fight. That's not exactly a good thing.
@chriscripplercruz1833
@chriscripplercruz1833 Жыл бұрын
I'll still take Blue Marvel in a straight up duel... great video
@ricky865
@ricky865 Жыл бұрын
Sentry is not actually a ripoff Superman, he is actuall a ripoff Miracleman who himself is a ripoff Captain Marvel Shazam! . So Sentry is actually a ripoff of a ripoff. The real Superman ripoff is Hyperion in his many incarnations. But theres a cople of others in the MCU that could be consider Supermsn ripoffs. Infact Marvel has more Superman like characters than DC itself.
@THEBIGBAD99-X
@THEBIGBAD99-X Жыл бұрын
They just didn't know what to do with him, like hulks son and some other great character's.
@matthewsommer8624
@matthewsommer8624 11 ай бұрын
As an older reader, I very much abhor this kind of retro-active continuity insertion... it bothered my with Jessica Jones, and it bothered me with Sentry to the point that I've never been interested in ever reading anything about the character. Missing out on some good stories, probably, but the whole "my brand-new character was ALWAYS an essential part of the universe!" always rubs the wrong way.
@GMONEY-vr7ti
@GMONEY-vr7ti 11 ай бұрын
In the King In Black storyline the Sentry has the coolest yet simplest line ever "Hi I'm Bob"
@nerds-nonsense
@nerds-nonsense Жыл бұрын
The Sentry clearly has DID, it'd be cool if Marvel knew, and actually explored that. We need more and better representation.
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse Жыл бұрын
Marvel has never really cleared up the character's mysteries. He is just a Deus Ex Gimmick.
@cammoore___
@cammoore___ Жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a great video! (Watching before the premiere starts for future context)
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if ripoff is is the right word, I think he's more of a parody
@mycontentcreation5264
@mycontentcreation5264 11 ай бұрын
Love this guy’s “real life” backstory. With a death of a fake artist and Stan Lee co creating him. But acts like he has little memory of him.
@gigatronusprime
@gigatronusprime 11 ай бұрын
The original Sentry is one of my favourite comics of all time.
@A-Muse-U
@A-Muse-U Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the MCU try to play with this idea.
@ItsTheFizz
@ItsTheFizz Жыл бұрын
The Sentry is one of the reasons why I don't get why Marvel's so hellbent on incorporating Miracleman into the Marvel Universe... Bob's already hit the big story beats they could possibly do with that Edgelord Captain Marvel Clone...
@thecoreelementsmoto
@thecoreelementsmoto 11 ай бұрын
cant believe they did the forgotten hero again with Spider Boy
@SomeRandomJackAss
@SomeRandomJackAss Жыл бұрын
I remember that there was a rumor that Sentry would show up in Avengers: Endgame and I'm still bummed they didn't do that. The movie's great as it is, but time travel to past events is the perfect way to reveal a character that was erased from everyone's memories for their own good. It could have set up a new big bad, without putting too much focus on this new character.
@NerdyOutlaw
@NerdyOutlaw Жыл бұрын
At 17:47 - Drake mentions "Marvels Superman stand-ins," and I recognize Hyperion on the left, but not the character on the right. Can someone tell me who the character is?
@BaithNa
@BaithNa Жыл бұрын
They did the "forgotten hero" better with Blue Marvel
@TrevorLamb-xo2id
@TrevorLamb-xo2id 6 ай бұрын
I remember playing the sentry in Ultimate Alliance 2, kinda liked the guy honestly. It was annoying to me that DD wasn't in the DS version despite showing up in the story a few times.
@mediabaron2416
@mediabaron2416 Жыл бұрын
I really don't understand the hatred surrounding the Sentry. Especially since nowadays most people can't seem to get enough of these darker pastiches of Superman. And if it's because he's "overpowered" and that his history is a big retcon to long standing history, then why doesn't that same critique apply to the Blue Marvel? Who is also an extremely powerful Superman-like hero who was retconned to have been around a lot longer than he actually was. Blue Marvel is another great character by the way. Definitely look him up if you've never heard of him.
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Жыл бұрын
It's not the character, it's how Sentry is used in stories. He's either the solution, or is thrashed to sell us on a threat.
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 11 ай бұрын
He's a boring Gary Stu.
@rayzrraycox
@rayzrraycox 11 ай бұрын
The Sentry's creation is essentially an old school creepy pasta 😅
@clarkkent3404
@clarkkent3404 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a history of Hyperion after this video
@Jean-Paul-Lane-Valley
@Jean-Paul-Lane-Valley Ай бұрын
I'd blame Bendis for making the Sentry into Marvel's official jobber/deus ex machina. If he were handled by Jenkins or someone like him all the way through, he wouldn't have gotten that bad reputation.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu 4 ай бұрын
Gonna be interesting to see how MCU deals with this character in Thunderbolts 🤔
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka Жыл бұрын
I am starting to think marvel should leave sentry alone and not use him ever again at least in my opinion
@MusicLover-my6fo
@MusicLover-my6fo Жыл бұрын
Marvel has the opportunity to do the biggest middle finger to DC after the Black Adam-Superman controversial cut. If the Sentry and Hyperion are really going to be the main antagonists in The Thunderbolts before becoming allies in The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars; Marvel has the chance to firmly establish two Superman-esque characters. They first deconstruct the Superman archetype by having Sentry and Hyperion as antagonists, then explain Robert's backstory of addiction and dissociative personality disorder making him tragic and sympathetic, thus making his character compelling and his power payoffs more exacting and deserving. And just keep Hyperion as a flat antagonist. The perfect yin and yang. Marvel has to opportunity to do Homelander better than Homelander.
@SomeRandomJackAss
@SomeRandomJackAss Жыл бұрын
Nah, have Hyperion just be Superman so that Marvel can do Superman right. Paint him as an antagonist because the Thunderbolts aren't exactly heroes, but the big reveal should be that he's doing what's right for the world in general but it rubs people like Val the wrong way. Imagine nowadays if the whole Superman IV "gather the world's nukes and throw them into the sun" thing happened with a superhero. They'd be labelled a super-terrorist and be the most wanted person on Earth!
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