The Sequels To THE CROW That Shouldn't Exist

[@inframeout]

My personal ranking of "The Crow" franchise; - The Crow (1994) ... (A Big Quality Gap) ... - The Crow: Stairway To Heaven ... (A Gigantic Chasm Of Quality Larger Than The Mariana Trench Given How None of the Remaining Films Are Good) ... - The Crow: Salvation - The Crow: Wicked Prayer - The Crow (2024) - The Crow: City of Angels

[@BigHonchoNick]

Wow, wicked prayer over salvation?

[@inframeout]

They're both 3 Out Of 10 slop for me, but dang, David Boreanaz is so so fun he wins

[@joshuamarks4425]

Where do you think the 2024 remake is going to fall into?

[@inframeout]

@joshuamarks4425 it seems to be going more into gnarly gore and hipster-goth style, so who knows! All I have to go on so far is the ludicrous production history and development hell it's been through (and the extremely corny trailers that appear to show it's doing the exact same plot every single adaptation has used so far once again)

[@Bluargh02]

The third crow movie is the third worst while being the second best.

[@petrfedor1851]

I like how in every movie he looks like in Halloween costume of The Crow but with less and less effort puted in.

[@patrickbateman312]

The shame of the Crow II is that it had the potential to be a pretty decent (maybe even good) film. GoodBadFlicks did a video on it many years ago, talking about how the studio fucked everything up as usual. It's worth checking out.

[@deadvikingtrolls]

It was a story by a grieving man as perfectly portrayed by Brandon Lee. It wasn't supposed to be a franchise, just a one-off masterpiece.

[@rometherevenant8749]

I really liked City of Angles and Salvation. Sure they will never beat the original, but I liked both of those movies because I really loved the idea that every new Crow we get has a person with a different tragedy for their backstory. One of the unique aspects of both those movies was how both Ash and Alex got their crow markings. His son Danny loved to paint, so to honor him, Sara used his paints to give Ash his Crow marks and for Alex, his marks came from a scarred disfigurement from the electric chair and he peeled bits of his skin off. We weren't getting close to the first Crow movie, but I really appreciated that each writer/ director gave the other movies its own charm to make it unique.

[@marcruth4531]

As butchered as the final cut of City of Angels was, I still love the movie. They way they carry on about how bad it is in this video sounds like they're just pandering to people that disliked it. It feels like a caricature of a review, to me.

[@rometherevenant8749]

@@marcruth4531 I agree

[@inframeout]

Considering that the film is 28 years old and I've never once watched a review of it - who could I possibly be pandering to? I literally take great pains to explain why my opinion skews negative whilst spending a substantial portion outlining the things I appreciate

[@greenkoopa]

​@inframeout idk man(?) I saw you rankings and I'd swap your 2nd and last picks myself. City of Angels isn't great but I haven't watched it in a while. I have nostalgia for it

[@thejon93rd]

I'll always believe that if we were to ever see Tim Pope's original cut for The Crow: City of Angels, it would make most do a complete 180 in regards to how they feel about the movie. The amount of deleted scenes listed on IMDB would make anyone reconsider; the biggest omission, arguably, being the ending, which was beautifully tragic. It pisses me off that we may never see that version because they did release it on Pay Per View, but it's been a piece of lost media ever since. I saw it as a kid, it was my first movie memory as a kid (peering over a couch and watching it, unbeknownst to my ma), hence why I have such a passion for the film; I'll never forget my disappointment with the "director's cut" DVD which is not at all what aired on PPV and not at all Tim Pope's cut. This remake gave me hope that we may see Tim's true version of CoA, but I don't think enough people give a toss (which I can't blame).

[@inframeout]

I'd love to see that! Unfortunately given the disintegration of the Minimax because of scumbag Weinstein and rights issues - odds are very slim

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

"My Chemical Crow-mance," had me rolling. 😆🖤👏

[@inframeout]

The crossover the world needs now more than ever

[@tape-6]

great news man, gerard way has been obsessed w the crow for their entire life and there was multiple direct references to the crow on their last tour with mcr including a costume they wore at my show that was like...a sort of minimalist black swan/crow look? it looked great and if the remake knew what they were doing at all they wouldve tried to license its not a fashion statement its a fucking deathwish off three cheers (rpatz batman also should have licensed never told you what i do for a living off the same album, fucking missing out)

[@tape-6]

finally, my hyperfixation comes into use

[@AndresAnLozadaLopez]

Also, why did this new version decided to use the name Eric Draven again? Like honestly I feel like we would've all accepted it more if they said no, this is some new guy who gets The Crow powers, not Eric again. Here's Collin Row or something

[@masterofallgoons]

Or even if it was gonna be a remake, why not adapt the book more closely and not give Eric and Shelley last names? Although, Colin Row is funny.

[@CarbonatedToast55]

I went on a similar rant on how Eric and Shelly's story doesn't need to be retold for a third time and they could have named the main character John Birdpun and I'd be a lot less angry.

[@baileym43ish]

THIS. a hundred hundred times! just do Another Crow story. done. which is why i think it has more to do with a rights retention issue. it HAD to be Eric and Shelly to keep hold of the film rights. i have no proof of this, its just my gut feeling.

[@hezekiahramirez6965]

@masterofallgoons Did they call him Draven in the movie? I don't remember. I didn't think they did. Also, I call him Ghost Malone

[@masterofallgoons]

@@hezekiahramirez6965 - they didn't. He was just Eric. I wrote that before I saw the movie, and I'd heard that, but it wasn't true. This is actually more in-line with the source material in that they didn't have last names... that's kind of the only thing though... by the way Ghost Malone is great. I might have to use that.

[@ashleyleckwold5091]

The Crow: City Of Angels also has the dubious honor of being the last thing Mighty Morphin Power Rangers actress Thuy Trang was ever in before her untimely death in 2001, so it sucks knowing she was somehow screwed over by both Haim Saban and Harvey Weinstein (though that second one less directly). edited for spelling

[@nicwinsteadart5330]

I was thinking about that but I didn't know if it was totally correct.I was going to make that comment too! RIP Thuy

[@Diggy22]

That’s the only reason I own that movie on DVD. R.I.P.

[@alphaotakux]

How she die in 2001? 9/11? R.i.p in peace 😢

[@ashleyleckwold5091]

@@alphaotakux As nicely as I can say this: jumping straight to 9/11 when seeing “died in 2001” is a wild leap. Thuy passed away from injuries from a car accident on September 3rd, 2001.

[@alphaotakux]

@@ashleyleckwold5091 9/11 was a inside job. I wouldn't be surprised if she was involved.

[@theblocksays]

David Boreanaz going full "Billy Zane in Demon Knight" never fails to amuse despite such a miserable slog from everyone else.

[@thedrinkinggames9573]

I think Boreanaz may be at his best as the insane crazy evil. I alsways thought he did so much better as evil Angelus in Buffy/Angel rather than the more boring Angel.

[@smithesque]

"known and loved by just about everyone else enamoured with Disintegration and Unknown Pleasures" how DARE you call my 15-year-old self out like this in my own home. I LOVED this movie. So glad I never knew there were horrific unnecessary sequels until this video... I also did not need to know they're rebooting in 2024 with a fraction of the style... Alas, so it goes.

[@TheBeird]

The Crow man. It may not be in my top ten but it hits hard man. When his girlfriend comes to collect him at the end, fucking bawling. Haven't bothered with the sequels but if GoodBadFlicks' video is anything to go by, City of Angels could have been something special. I've no real issue with this new one coming out, but why does it have to be Eric Draven? Brandon is Eric Draven, end of.

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

No wonder Bill Skarsgard was hired for The Crow remake; Eric Mabius' make-up for Salvation looks like his version of Pennywise. 😆

[@inframeout]

God, you're totally right 🤡

[@thnzxc]

​@@inframeoutSalvation is the only sequel that's tolerable 😂

[@AndresAnLozadaLopez]

With a concept as broad as: person and the love of their lives die by extreme violence, only to return as a vengeful inmortal vigilante, there shouldn't be so many adaptations where the set up and execution is exactly the same. Patently waiting for someone to adapt Skinning the Wolves, the one where The Crow fights the horrors of WW2

[@inframeout]

That comic is so rad (and occasionally balls to the wall tasteless in a grindhouse exploitation kind of way). As I say when talking about this in the "Wicked Prayer" portion of this video, you could make Crow movies about wars, corporate corruption, governmental incompetence, climate change etc... ...but no, every damn time it's identical

[@Cotygeek]

I like Skinning the Wolves, but I think Curare would be incredible.

[@Germania9]

@@inframeout Which is unfortunate, as the comics have demonstrate how much and how far you can with such an embarrassing treasure of endless potential. Even down to the makeup and costumes each Crow wear that showcase their individuality and autonomy. For example, one Crow was a state trooper....who's just dressed as a state trooper while avenging his partner. But seriously, Skinning the Wolves and Curare are few many best examples of taking the Crow anywhere. The last two Crow miniseries was about a found family of circus people; and an interesting take on the slasher genre.

[@jadedinosaur7573]

While not nearly as much of a lingering note of sadness as that of Lee in the first film, I do give City of Angels a single nod for having one of Thuy Trang’s only performances outside of Power Rangers. 😢

[@freemantle85]

I do love it when you go through these straight-to-DVD/B-Movie series for our entertainment.

[@inframeout]

Next up, "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre"!* *nope, not a goddamn chance...unless....

[@drmonroej4]

You seen these clowns saying “The first Crow wasn’t that good anyway.”? 😆😆😆😆😆

[@hitmanmonaghan6633]

I gotta admit, I liked the third one. I got Wicked Prayer for free. And I still over paid.

[@inframeout]

😂

[@whoiamiamnot2104]

I actually think the baseline Crow concept could work as like an anthology series. Radom people resurrected by a mythical Crow blaw blaw blaw. There's a concept there that could work. Men and women of various origins becoming the Crow. Various undeserved, neglected etc groups of people getting vengeance. There's something there that could work.

[@SeasideDetective2]

That's the premise the comics ended up following, anyway. I'd just worry that, given the nature of the series, it would go "DEI," with only various minorities being cast in the lead role. Innocent blonde girl? White working-class guy? Lonely rich WASP? Too bad - you all just die. That, and the most noteworthy visual gimmick - the "undead" makeup - would (and in fact did) become tiresome. Are we to believe every young murder victim has the same Carnival mask? Given that Death has many faces across various world cultures, we could have a very nice and diverse Halloween parade. (I'd love to see, say, a British Indian as the Hindu god of death, for example.) You could even turn the whole thing into a true anthology by having a different animal replace the crow every time.

[@mattyt1961]

I will try to say only positive things about these movies: The Crow (Brandon Lee) is one of my top 5 of all time... saw it in cinemas and still love it to this day. I think you're spot on with City of Angels, there was a better film there and some of the shifts in tone (his mania) I think would have made more sense if not for HW. Salvation had some good bones, and even a good cast, but they needed a better script, budget... Wicked Prayer I rented, watched and returned to Blockbuster on time

[@comradecid]

the crow: robocop for goths

[@inframeout]

Robogoth - now that's a franchise!

[@masterofallgoons]

​@@inframeout- you've got a green light!

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Oh my god....

[@deadvikingtrolls]

Both are so good.

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

City of Angels fan reconstruction is actually a very fascinating film. It is still mangled but it got some vibes.

[@SuperSweetBoy]

*Multiple* multiple stab wounds? That’s a lot of knife!

[@inframeout]

"They were stabbed multiple times, multiple times!!!!!"

[@SuperSweetBoy]

@@inframeout The knifing equivalent of that one bit in Ip Man where Donnie Yen hundred-hand-slaps a guy in the chest

[@inframeout]

You know that carpentry phrase, "Measure twice, cut once"? Well, in The Crow universe, it's "Stab multiple times, stab multiple times"

[@owie4070]

😂 I was going to comment on that same thing, but I can't top that.

[@anabidingdude8079]

The nature of the story (someone is wronged/murdered and is supernaturally resurrected to enact revenge, via a "mystical" crow, on his murderers) lends itself to a great one and done film, which Proyas pulled off brilliantly despite the tragic death of Brandon Lee hanging over the legacy of the original. The first film has fantastically pulp-y, in the best possible way, performances. Jon Polilto croaking "F*ck me!' in disbelief as Draven's wound heals, "Pussies drink last, man." "I'm not Stank. Stank's over dere. Stank's dead!" "Mother is the name for God on the lips of all children." and "It can't rain all the time." Hollywood can't recognize a classic and let it be. I'm glad I stopped at the first film and just rewatch it. I salute your sacrificing brain cells to watch everything else.

[@inframeout]

The comics have used the loose premise to explore other people who die wrongful deaths and exact revenge (there's a WWII set story that absolutely rules)

[@anabidingdude8079]

@@inframeout Yes! As an anthology, the premise would work great. The Old West, feudal Japan, you name it and the Crow can show up, any place, any era, any type of person, to exact some vengeance. Just let sleeping Eric Dravens lie. I guess it's a testimony to the art direction and soundtrack that creatives who are put in charge of these sequels feel like they have to ape the original or it won't be "The Crow."

[@nexusgiga]

If it helps, the comics have moments where Eric has referenced past crows in the hack/slash crossover so it's possible there are other crows around (though the other comics claim the actual crow is the Japanese crow god itself? So it's possible that they're doing it one At a time?)

[@inframeout]

Ooooo the "Hack/Slash" crossover is one of the very few arcs I haven't read!

[@MrJentu]

OK. City of Angels. If you have a chance, find the original novelization of city of Angels. That book was written based on the test screening before Harvey Weinstein restructured the film THAT version of the movie is much better. It’s emotional, it hits hard, and there is no happy ending.

[@andrwarrior]

I re-watched The Crow on a VHS bootleg dozens of times in my youth, and have only a fever-dream's recollection of City of Angels, but the list just kept going. And just when you concluded on what I thought was the 4th and final incomprehensible flop, you're telling me they're coming out with another one?

[@inframeout]

Not only are they coming out with a new one...it's out in three days 💀

[@ParisLawLess]

It cant rain all the time.

[@inframeout]

That line gets me every time

[@karasguro6919]

This and the Like tears in the rain.

[@faceman7966]

I thought Brandon Lee was awesome in this movie

[@kurtvangogh420]

I have a buddy that thinks the one with Kirsten Dunst is better than the original.... I told him the first time he said that you better be lucky you that to me and not a different crow fan, cause dude you're dead man walking... He didn't understand and still doesn't. We aren't as close as we used to be

[@battleborn1055]

My biggest problem with stairway to heaven was that it felt severely nerfed. I mean, a crow that doesn't kill? Who thought that was a good idea? Not to mention the walker texas ranger like cheesiness

[@inframeout]

Hahahahaha as much as I defend that show, you are absolutely correct 🤣

[@cjmayhue1151]

You have no idea how happy the sight of this video makes me

[@inframeout]

Glad to be of service!

[@anthonyclark9441]

City Of Angels is just fine, up until that damn ending. There's a LOT of reasons to hate Harvey Weinstein, and THIS is one of them. I try to pretend as if none of that other stuff, minus Stairway To Heaven ever happens. I think that both Brandon and Vincent Perez captured the insanity that a person who realized that they were alive, but not really. Invincible, but not really, would have to suffer from at times. Perez takes it to another level, but I'm not upset about that.

[@kbj686]

my history is encountering Pantera covering Poison Idea and Nine Inch Nails covering Joy Division in high school gave my musical taste a nudge in the right direction.

[@CB-ke7eq]

One of the great 90s soundtracks 🤘

[@SeasideDetective2]

Pantera didn't compose "The Badge," eh?

[@kevinarmstrong478]

Best soundtrack! Up there with Romeo and Juliet and Spawn.

[@inframeout]

Now you're just listing "albums I had in my CD wallet my entire youth"

[@kevinarmstrong478]

@@inframeout it’s got me thinking “ When the soundtrack is better than the movie” Spawn for sure Flash Gordon maybe The Black Hole Pretty in Pink Cocktail (says the wife) Rocky Horror Picture Show!

[@lurchorum]

Nothing past the first movie should've been made. The end.

[@markanderson3509]

I feel exactly the same, The Crow should have ended with the death of Brandon Lee and then the film would have always been a tribute to his memory and his last performance but because he died during filming and the film made money and has gained a cult following over the years all the film companies see are money signs and think they can just keep putting out cheap imitations of the original thinking it will have the same success. At this point more than 30 years down the line you would think they would have learnt their lesson that they can't beat the original movie especially with the lead actor from that original film gone forever and just leave the story of The Crow to rest in peace.

[@stein-erikrutledal2884]

Eric Draven/The Raven is also very much a wordplay name.

[@AttestedFire66]

Joaquin pheonix as the crow... tell me I'm wrong.

[@Grogeous_Maximus]

The original got me tuned into Brandon's legacy and family, as well as romanticism and poetry in a way none of my teachers could. And the sequels feel like something that has to be shamefully removed with penicillin and quickly forgotten about.

[@inframeout]

The fact they have a premise of such limitless philosophical, cinematic and humanistic potential and 100% of the time the movies have defaulted to "white dude loses a loved one and decides to kill drug dealers"...it's a damn shame

[@dresdenwarlock7978]

The original can't be topped, but it's unfortunate that the new film (that has an INCREDIBLE cast, Bill Skarsgard could have been incredible as Eric! They could have made it closer to the original graphic novel, because as AMAZING and fantastic Brandon Lee's "The Crow" is, it does deviate from the source material in several key ways. Alas, they didn't even put a TOUCH of Goth into the new movie. Ridiculous. City of Angels... oof. Nah, never been my favorite. I have a soft spot for Salvation. I really liked that Alex Corvis had an attitude and abused his powers. Wicked Prayer is disappointing in TWO ways. 1. The book it's based on was actually GREAT, and practically none of it is represented in the film, not even the talking shrunken head. 2. It's bad on its own. I say this as someone that actually owned it on DVD, btw.

[@struanthomson1855]

Another great video, excellent work. I look forward to the day when this channel blows up, it's long overdue.

[@inframeout]

I'm humbled by your kind words, but alas, the almighty algorithm really doesn't like me. Still, I'd rather play to a small crowd of folks who care such as yourself than yell into the big-numbers void of ragebait or "ending explained" videos

[@matthewkeeney3891]

I know nun of the Sequels would ever live up to The Original Movie! But every one of the Sequels and the show seemed like they had alot of potential, Just nun of them were able to hit the mark or be as meaningful as the Comic or first Movie!

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Your video on A History of Violence randomly came up for me so I wanted to comment on a more recent video. Awesome breakdown of the movie with a real poetic quality to the delivery.

[@InkAndPoet]

Something to point out for the DVD set for Stairway to Heaven: it will not work for any DVD players in the US, US territories, Canada, or Bermuda. If you live ANYWHERE else, you're good.

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

I'll never forget when a scathing review of Wicked Prayer that I read in my mom's Dark Realms Issue 20 magazine neatly summarized the series' quality decline as thus: "The 1994 film *The Crow* was a terrific movie, hailed by critics and beloved by audiences worldwide. The sequel, *The Crow: City of Angels* was a fairly forgettable film, and though it was a disappointment to most fans of the first movie, it did offer some redeeming elements. The third installment, *The Crow: Salvation* was released direct-to-video and was an abysmal travesty...Believe it or not, *The Crow: Wicked Prayer* is actually worse than the last one...this movie makes a mockery of James O'Barr's dark tale of a gothic avenging angel." Like wow, thanks Maxx for *literally* teaching kid me everything I need to know about this so-called "franchise." 😅

[@CallingALLmarks]

I'll argue that City of Angels is a great sequel and standalone story.. Salvation is a CW ripoff of the original. And ive seen it because im a crow nerd but we dont talk about Wicked Prayer. I love the tv show Crow Stairway to Heaven.

[@kyletitterton]

Textbook instant decline of a franchise that should have been 1 movie. Starting with an underdog original classic, devolving into dreadful sequels, pointless TV show (though they clearly tried a wee bit) and finally an unwanted, flashy modem remake. It's literally the spitting image of the Robocop and Highlander franchises. But please, never let that stop you tackling either of them in the future!

[@inframeout]

I fear that tackling "Highlander" (especially both abysmal cuts of the second film) would melt my synapses

[@kyletitterton]

@@inframeout 😂

[@amandaredd3057]

The tv show version is still a far cry better than this new movie version they came out with recently

[@seanturner1197]

15:16 it seems like, he was trying to be like Michael Keaton's Beetlejuice in the same way Tommy lee Jones made two face like Jack Nicholson's portrayal of the joker. And this is why I never watch films anymore.

[@Heavy-P]

"Siouxsie And The Juggalos"🤌

[@whoisyouranime]

The Crow with Brandon Lee is a masterpiece. It's so good that I can't watch it again because knowing of Brandon's tragic death after the movie makes me scared to watch it again. Which is why I watched City of Angels. Sure, it wasn't as great as the 1st film, but I consider this a guilty pleasure. The TV show is also another guilty pleasure but sadly, I can't find a way to watch it again. Salvation is meh. Wicked Prayer was so awful, my brain hurts just thinking about it.

[@brucecampbellschin8632]

City of Angels isn't terrible after that it's not just downhill it's down in the sewer.

[@AndresAnLozadaLopez]

You should retire, theres no way of ever topping My Chemical Crowmance. Although Souxie and the Juggalos comes close

[@inframeout]

I did feel as if I peaked at that exact moment

[@KingSidJames]

Playing devil's advocate: Would the Crow have been as successful and a cult film if Brandon Lee had not been killed on set?

[@inframeout]

The issue with that is one of marketing rather than the quality of the film. The studio did put more money into post-production and shifted the release from a limited run/straight to VHS in certain territories to a full global theatrical rollout in the wake of Lee's death. All of which undoubtedly played a word of mouth role and sped up the cultural catalytic reaction to the film. That being said - I still think it would have been discovered and championed by an adoring demographic.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

Given the nature of the goth scene at the time, I think it definitely would have been an underground hit. The soundtrack would still have been a huge draw too

[@thnzxc]

That's the question that will forever follow The Crow and The Dark Knight.

[@Slayerthecrow]

An interesting idea for the Crow that no one used was The Crow: Dead Time when a native america killed during the Civil Wars resurrects 100 years later to fight against a biker gang who are the reincarnated soldiers that killed him. They could use a similar concept.

[@bensneb360]

Well, it’s hard to come close to the original, I think the crow salvation is a pretty good… Maybe because it’s the first crow movie I ever saw, but I appreciate it mixing things up with instead of criminals, It’s corrupt cops. Plus the film has a pretty stacked cast.

[@inframeout]

Goggins makes everything better

[@bensneb360]

@@inframeout Facts

[@tetsubo57]

I've only seen the original. I watched it again a few years ago with the commentary track. It could have been so much worse if the filmmakers had had their way. As it was, I never saw how people loved it so much. I felt that it fell so far short of the comic. I recommend the comic to anyone into the genre. I have never recommended the film.

[@Diggy22]

The Crow sequels are so awful, I almost forget how much I enjoyed the Stairway To Heaven series. As a fan of Mark Dacascos, he definitely added his own flavor to the IP, especially in terms of fight scenes. The show did take an emotional toll on him, because of the franchise’s bleak tone, and the on-set death of a crew member. Everything since then has given him a new appreciation for life, and you can see it in every movie and TV show he does, as well as his daily clips on social media. I have a feeling that if Brandon Lee were alive today, regardless of how he’d have felt about the TV show, he’d have jumped at the chance just to spend the day with Mark Dacascos. 🙏🏽

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I always liked City of Angels, although it doesn't really stick the landing unfortunately. Even with Sarah coming back, it feels closer to feeling like one of the comic book spinoffs that does its own thing. Great cast too, and I liked the soundtrack even if it isn't as iconic as the one for the first movie.

[@inframeout]

I will say, while I think COA has a really rank colour pallet, it's the only entry outside of the first one with a bold and recognizable visual identity

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

​@inframeout it's just a shame Harvey put his greasy mitts all over it. I try to be a little more forgiving when there's that much studio interference (same with Alien 3)

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

​@inframeout I just dug out my copy of the novelization, and even doing a quick flip through, you can pick out some differences, since it's based on the original screenplay. If I had any video editing skills at all, I'd make a script to screen comparison lol

[@CB-ke7eq]

I'm not sure if I've ever seen a video title that elicited such a swift "YESSSSSSS!" from me. Kudos.

[@UnwrittenSpade]

“What if the motor city got Robert smith and not robocop”? Bahahahahaha

[@nicwinsteadart5330]

I really wish they would do a premise where it's a single mother and her son/daughter and run with that. The City of Angels had a good idea, but it was so butchered. Or just a friend avenging another, and the love and brotherhood that comes with that. Give me something new!

[@inframeout]

What you just described is used in a run of the comics and an episode of the TV show! Shame that the movies have absolutely zero interest in even slightly changing the formula

[@amovieguy14]

16:19 I believe it’s Miramax not Warner Bros who made The Crow City of Angels.

[@inframeout]

You are correct that it's Mirimax, but my joke was about the recent years of Warner Brothers butchering edits and screwing over film makers and how that pales to what happened making CoA under Mirimax - hence "...It'd make Warner Bros since"

[@amovieguy14]

@@inframeout Mistakes happen & all these film studios can all be one blurr sometimes.

[@FLM-nn8ms]

In order to head off the inevitably toxic word of mouth The Crow: City of Angels was released in Northern Ireland and Ireland before being given a British theatrical release. I remember being very puzzled why a film which, so far as I knew, wasn't due to open for a few more weeks was playing my local fleapit. Minutes into the movie the answer became painfully apparent...

[@inframeout]

Of all the awful things the Brits have done to Northern Ireland and Ireland, premiering "The Crow: City of Angels" on your shores is a further indignity that I'd also like to blame on Thatcher

[@cambellfan22]

20:55 well I think brimstone you can find on KZbin but for a physical media usually you have to look for mod groups that make bootleg dvds of the show

[@kommissar.murphy]

Mandy is the best sequel to the Crow that doesnt exist.

[@inframeout]

You're absolutely right

[@FLM-nn8ms]

I used to think that, but then I saw Coralie Fargeat's film Revenge,

[@kommissar.murphy]

@@FLM-nn8ms ill check that out. Maybe there can be an alternative list of secret Crow sequels!

[@kommissar.murphy]

@@FLM-nn8ms it just checked the Trailer, it looks more in the Tradition of movies like Straw Dogs or I spit on your grave than the Crow. Probably worth a watch though!

[@ShirDeutch]

The premise of the TV show boils down to "what if it was actually bad that Eric avenged his girlfriend by killing all those people, and now he has to walk around in broad daylight and get a regular job? In all fairness, this is probably the sequel the most original ideas. Bad ideas, but still.

[@SeasideDetective2]

I can't help but admire the series, though, for casting Mark Dascascos, a B-movie actor who always seemed to choose interesting (if cheesy) roles (Jimmy Lee in DOUBLE DRAGON, that leopard-man in THE ISLAND OF DR. MOREAU). He looked so much like Brandon Lee (even, like Lee, being part-Caucasian and part-Asian, which also made him ideal for DOUBLE DRAGON) that it's almost possible to believe the show and the original movie are part of the same universe.

[@ShirDeutch]

@@SeasideDetective2 he definitely is the only other than Brandon Lee that can pull off that Crow look. Also the only other martial artist to do it, which is kinda bizarre.

[@Formakiwi]

The Crow belongs in that sad pantheon of landmark genre films that spawned almost exclusively abysmal sequels/reboots. That ignominious list includes: Jaws Hellraiser Robocop Highlander The Blair Witch Project Halloween The Exorcist The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Candyman The Amityville Horror Friday the 13th The Omen Carrie You could say at least it´s in good company.

[@kurtwaldron-e4e]

Exorcist III, Season of the Witch, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, and Halloween 2018 all rule.

[@stoppropaganda2573]

+2 poiints for Siouxsie and the Juggalos.

[@owie4070]

I enjoyed this. I will check out more of your work. 👍🏽

[@inframeout]

Awesome, thank you!

[@liesureleeminis8268]

I would still love to see some of the comics come to screen. Honestly this series as an outer limits esque(new story every couple of episodes) anthology would be perfect. Nothing would stick around long enough to get old, and we'd have opportunity to bring some of the stronger stories to screen.

[@RobertLeeBrownBlind]

Apparently I'm the only one who likes and enjoyed City of Angels and Salvation. I'm not saying they are great movies by any means, but I personally like and enjoyed them. I think they gave us some interesting moments, takes, and perspectives on The Crow. The first one is still the best. I have nothing good to say about Wicked Prayer, or Stairway to Heaven. Well, I would have something to say for Stairway to Heaven but the no killing rule was stupid as hell. It felt like they were trying to turn The Crow into the next Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

[@masterofallgoons]

I don't think it's quite accurate to say that the TV series is another adaptation of the comic, since the first episode is a straight up remake of the movie, including everything the movie changed from the source. I wouldn't be surprised if the writers never read the book.

[@KxC-FK6349]

1 the best 2 stairway to heaven 3 salvation 4 city of angels 5 the crow (24) 6 shouldnt ever watch; wicked prayer

[@RykerJones28]

I have gratefully never seen any of the sequels and i wont be watching the new entry this year either. I think i have been tempted to watch the one with David Boreanaz purely because I miss his charisma as Angelus but even his charm didn't quite win me over enough to sit through it. I did however, enjoy your breakdown of them all. The metaphors and quips are more entertaining than all but the original combined.

[@mr.freise7982]

How many people googled "space eyed whiskey" only to be let down with the hum drum of the true name "Speyside Whiskey." I thought this would be some Rick Sanchez level Space whiskey that would f*^% my skull seven ways to Sunday but it turns out it was just a single malt that I would imbibe on any given Sunday. awesome vid BTW

[@inframeout]

God, I'd take a hearty interstellar snifter of whiskey right about now 🤣

[@CountessLydia]

Much as my petty streak was inclined towards situational schadenfreude with this “remake”, my heart aches for Bill Skarsgard as I think he is a wonderful actor and I want to wrap him in cotton wool and full hazmat to shield him from the the nuclear fallout of this disaster 😢

[@spookypuppy13]

Great video, thank you. I had to subscribe to see more of what you come out with 😄

[@inframeout]

Thanks so much! Hope you find some other gems in our back catalog

[@spookypuppy13]

@@inframeout I will definitely check out your other videos. Thanks again for this one and keep up the great work 😄

[@louisduarte8763]

16:36 That was on the PS1? I watched the AVGN play the Dreamcast version. 20:42 "Think of it as... therapy." - Jack Nicholson's Joker 25:16 Great, now ya got me thinking of Dexter going full Crow to avenge his Lab on Dee-Dee and Mandark. 30:24 "No. Stop. Come back. You have so much to live for." 33:53 At least it tried to connect the Crow to Native American folklore. My CROW experience can sum up with 3 letters: M, T, V. Back in 2009, I watched the 1st movie, for the 1st time, on that channel on Valentine's Day. Me and 3 of my college roommates were sick, so we went "F it, let's watch this" and it blew my mind. A near perfect time-capsule of mid-90's Goth and a callback to when MTV really felt innovative and daring. I also saw part of the sequels on that channel. City of Angels was OK, the next to were tonally-inconsistent messes that cheaped out on sets and costumes which were NOBODY's best work, but the new one looks like crap. Something someone else said about Bill Skarsgard's Eric captured my feelings on the subject: "Brandon Lee's version looked like he played guitar in Nine Inch Nails, the new guy looks like he releases dubstep rap on Soundcloud".

[@alexandrechenette5097]

Wow the prose is, chef’s kiss 👌

[@ClumsyDrow]

The first is my favorite movie and the graphic novel is also my favorite.

[@inframeout]

Both are excellent choices

[@murciadoxial8056]

one step closer to the strange days video owo

[@ShogunsCustomMaps]

The first sequel was almost alright. I haven't seen it in 20+ years but I remember it having some parts I liked.

[@SHLVideos]

I was so hyped for City of Angels; I went early on opening day so I could see it twice, since I knew it was gonna be amazing. I think that still counts as the most disappointing theatrical experience I've ever had.

[@inframeout]

I'm sorry for your loss (of an afternoon and the money you spent on your ticket) ❤️

[@SHLVideos]

@@inframeout I must've been like 18, but it was still one of my first real experiences of "oh my god, franchise movies aren't inherently good! In fact, some movies can be bad!"

[@all-s0rts]

I'd take the Eddie Furlong Crow movie over this remake.

[@peterherron4222]

I truly love your writing and being a fellow Scot just makes it more enjoyable. Which part of Scotland btw? East coast? Edinburgh area? I'm a St Andrews boy and no I'm not a golf playing, rich, posh twat.

[@inframeout]

I'm actually from Elgin but now stay in Glasgow!

[@Cricket101382]

In all fairness, City of angels was supposed to be a very different movie until said intervention. What it was intended to be actually sounded like a great movie.

[@kylefrid5911]

I honestly like the repeated premise, I feel like the MC dying, being resurrected, and taking vengeance is what the series is about. It's a premise with a ton of options for variability and theming, the problem is not the premise but the execution. To me it's like getting frustrated that a new The Ring is about a cursed tape that kills people.

[@donchon7580]

I didn't realize there were so many sequels.

[@angbald]

I assume you know that corvus is latin for crow.

[@inframeout]

I absolutely do

[@damianstarks3338]

Awesome Crow video

[@inframeout]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lmbuckhalterjr6123]

I liked stairway to heaven because it combined both movie and a part of the graphic series that wasn't addressed. The longer Eric stayed in the living world the more his mental state fractured.

[@inframeout]

For sure it has a whole lot of heart and explores how killing isn't enough to dry things right, you have to save lives as well

[@mrflipperinvader7922]

13:17 Chino's early dreadlock phase none the less!

[@inframeout]

The man had had so many eras of hotness, it's wild. RIP Chi Cheng

[@NewKira16]

There's a fan-film of The Crow that never got off the ground AFAIK, which starred indy wrestler Justin Mane as the titular superhero. Sucks that something with genuine passion behind it can't get studio backing, but all these different piles of dogshit can

[@troesler81]

It felt like 5 or 6 years between the first one and the second.

[@singletona082]

I forget which one it was but i remember seeing one on scifi (i refuse to call it syfy.) where the intro was this taxadermy thing that just kept looping from diffrent angles and just... 'yea this is already garbage.' I remember a TV show that ... was the exact kind of schlock you'd expect out of the early 90's, but it had heart.

[@Burningwithecstasy]

Thanks for making this video. I only saw the first movie and so it shall always be.

[@inframeout]

Absolutely the correct call

[@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863]

My ranking 1: the original 1994 film 2: the new 2024 movie 3: stairway to heaven 4: salvation 5: city of Angels 6: wicked prayer

[@itsmekiruha]

To this day the only “crow” movie that I’ve seen is the “salvation” one. I think I was like 10 when I saw it. And now when I’ve been retraumatised by recalling the “body modification” part of this movie… I have disgusting desire to rewatch it for some reason.

[@inframeout]

Seeing Fred Ward as a body modder is like seeing Ned Flanders sniffing glue

[@DRANGOFEET]

I rewatched it last year, and it still remains my second favorite movie in the franchise. I mean it’s not good or anything, but it’s funny as shit

[@hezekiahramirez6965]

33:43 They knew what they were doing