The Shangri-las * Right Now and Not Later * 1965

[@KingOFuh]

This is one of their best songs. Nice to see all four of them. Mary's sister Betty is the last surviving La

[@julianmaba]

RIP Mary, you were amazing. Thank you!

[@charleswinokoor6023]

I dig the classic mid-sixties arm-whip dance movement. I just finished reading two obituaries about Mary Weiss.

[@theindividual]

Mary, if you are reading this, know that it may not have seemed like much at the time, but your work and your art lives on and on. We live looking forward, but we only understand what we do looking backward.

[@lioncurlew]

She never replied to you, so I don't think she read your comment.

[@Soundofsilence-j4d]

​​@@lioncurlewnow that she passed away witch is really sad that we will never be able two.

[@KingOFuh]

Yes, she passed away, but I disagree that Mary was a witch @@Soundofsilence-j4d

[@KingOFuh]

Mary told me just before she passed on that she read your message.

[@Daehawk]

The days and times were changing and so was music. Rest and dream Mary love. Miss you....but can hear you anytime.

[@Marc-py1qn]

Just started following the history of the Shangri-las. It's a sad story of four teenagers taken advantage of by slimy producers and managers. There is absolutely no reason this song wasn't a number one hit. Their story is strikingly similar to the story of Badfinger. Great groups with sorry managers.

[@69realstar2]

Mary was underrated musical voice..cant fake that talent

[@teresacobianchi4151]

Love , Love , Love these girls , how talented at such a young age , Amazing , Thank you Ladies for all the Wonderful music and memories ♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@TheDj3a]

I love them so much, I wish I were a Shangri-La. But alas and alec I was born in 64, and heard their songs in the womb and as a baby and toddler, and they were then and still are forever in my heart. I hope to do them justice when I sing their songs with my band! RIP twins and long live Mary and Betty!

[@KingOFuh]

RIP Mary Weiss

[@Imissthepostoffice]

The band now is pretty much known as one of the best girl groups of the 60's.

[@wanderer1960]

+geez louise I have just started listening to the Shangri Las. Mary's voice is full of teenage angst and emotion. It is no wonder that they achieved such popularity with teenagers.

[@laminage]

Yes! They and The Ronettes were a major influence on Amy Winehouse. Then someone samples "Remember Walking In The Sand".

[@neilvansteemburg6808]

This group is part of the reason I loved the sixties and now still do over and over!

[@Daveyengland]

Mary reacted to the “four pretty girls to my right” comment by the host... she was flattered 🥰

[@john_from_eastcoast.]

🌷🌸🌸🌹♥️ RIP Mary Weiss 🌹🌸🌷🌷🌹😭

[@Marsena]

Why didn't these lovely ladies win a Grammy? LOVE this music! Give me old school ANY DAY!!!

[@iluvpepi]

The more that I listen to these gals, the more that I love them. This is a nice change from their usual song style (which I love). 👏🏻

[@lawrencejosephjenzen]

THEY WERE WONDERFUL TOTALLY UNDER RATED. WHAT A WONDERFUL SONG. I WISH THEY WERE ALL ALIVE TODAY SADLY MARYANN AND MARGIE HAVE PASSED AWAY.

[@adrianmartin5780]

I'm smitten,wow, the outfits are jumpin out at me,is this 3D,amazing ladies,stellar.These harmonies blow my mind.

[@michaelquarry6433]

Mary Weiss was a beautiful young Lady. I loved to hear the Shangri LA'S all the Girls was cute.

[@theredcat5569]

and very old

[@michaelhughes8057]

Too bad one of the original members died in 1970 of a do!

[@alfx5432]

They want it Right now Not Later. I like this song.

[@Cissy2cute]

I play this song at least once a day. Love it! Who cares who was "homely" - it's about the MUSIC. These girls were terrific.

[@KingOFuh]

Are you still alive?

[@czar14617]

THIS GROUP IS VERY UNDER RATED ---THEY WERE GREAT------------AWESOME

[@glennhfriedman4571]

Bullshit , they were well known , respected and popular !

[@chambeet]

@@glennhfriedman4571 I'd say they've become a bit underrated lately, as they aren't quite as big as, say, the Supremes, or even the Ronettes.

[@Tomes23]

I did fairly well with reading comprehension. I agree with your post.

[@amusic3092]

@@chambeet i don't understand why The Shangri-las or The Ronettes were not as famous as The Supremes, those two were too different to The common girl groups in 60's

[@chambeet]

@@amusic3092 Good question. Maybe the Motown songwriting machine of Holland-Dozier-Holland is what pushed the Supremes over into superstardom in a way that the other groups never quite matched.

[@youngmindedman]

they sang very good. I really miss those days. also loved the way the girls danced.!!

[@Pete6264]

Mary Weiss - truly awesome. Thanks for posting - much appreciated

[@alanmurr6562]

Anytime I want to increase my serotonin and dopamine I come to watch these great girls.

[@kj104uk9]

The more I see this the more I like it. Margie has great rhythm and a great a-se. Seriously though, they make stunning group, don't they.

[@WOODR52]

I knew the shangri las, was in love with Mary ann Ganser, in 63. I was 10, she was 15, she came to my house during the summer. I am old now, but still remember everything....I was in love with her till she died in 70. still think about her today.

[@blackheartbev3098]

That’s cool you had dinner with her, was she nice in person?

[@DaveAnchovies]

the Reigning Sound are a top level band of the 00's on their own merits...for those geezers who think rock and roll died, Greg (guitar/vox/shades) wrote all these songs, though this one already existed, for her to sing and coax her out of retirement.

[@toddrobson9228]

Brilliant pop song & the girls are just too cool for words.

[@turbo1964]

Been a Shanri La's fan for years and never heard this song. Thanks for posting.

[@normanbommarito6029]

4 great singers. They are very good looking young women,

[@JHINTON69]

Go Go Dancers and Mary Weiss...what a reason to hurry home after school to see them on TV. When she sings 'SHOUT'--it really makes ya wanna get up & dance!! Bobby Fuller was my favorite guy singer!! He brought the Buddy Holly great sound of the 50's into the Now of the 60's...Great memories!!

[@larrydorfman2741]

GREAT SONG/GRP/LEAD TYVM. AS A TEENAGER WAS IN LOVE MARY!

[@faeryquene]

Thanks so very much for posting these awesome vintage footage of one of the greats-TheShangri-Las. Imo Mary is one of the greatest singers in Rock n' Roll. :)

[@christheone8773]

I love their choreograph moves and those skin tight outfits - amazing!!!!!!!!

[@cocoaorange1]

No ice cream sodas for them. Nice song.

[@PaulDePace]

Gotta come back on here and say I love this video! Half the clicks on here are mine! There are just bits and pieces of Shang stuff here on KZbin...and this video is the whole package, and really the only one where you get a full dose of the Shangs at the top of their game...and including Betty! I have two copies of this record and love playing it. I am still looking for an abolutely stone Mint copy, which I will get!! So sad that Margie and Mary Ann have passed away.

[@Oldiesbuff925]

One of my fav groups period...LOVE The Shangri-las....and GG !!

[@dannysvinylrainbow4852]

Oh my God these girls were so good and so ahead of their time in a lot of ways. This song for example has a Motown song from the late 60s but yet it's from the early 60s just amazing music and I love your style.

[@procopiojrpalacios9702]

Most of the comments seem to be about their looks, but Mary's VOICE was what gave them their unique sound! Although only teenagers, no one sounded like them, and those Weiss sisters were beauties!

[@flexxmi]

I agree with you azgrooveguy! I have watched this over and over and love it when Margie is taken by surprise at the girl screaming. Her facial expression after the scream is priceless. I love this video and I think Margie is the best dancer in the group. I wish I could have known the Gansers personally. I bet those girls were a riot to hang out with!

[@thewiseowl3672]

I love it. I'd not heard this one before. For me, this should have been a number one hit.

[@hughdern]

Betty is a Natural beauty. This song had the potential of being a top 20 hit. I wonder why it never went anywhere.

[@raddmann336]

It was popular in my market in Minneapolis. Used to hear it a lot on the radio. Was shocked it was only 99th nationally.

[@laminage]

The Girl Group had pretty much gone downhill. Them and The Ronettes took a backseat to the British Invasion. The only Girlband that continued was The Supremes.

[@alanmurr6562]

All 4 women are gorgeous!!! I will never forget seeing them for the first time on tv when i was about 16. They sang a song called Long live Our Love minus Betty, but Mary and those two Ganser twins overwhelmed me!!! I REALIZED THEN I'd seen the most gorgeous group in a band as I will ever see!!!!! I've never seen a rock group as beautiful and SEXY AS THOSE 3 GIRLS in one band!!! SEXY is the scary word to describe those 3 ANGELS who just want to sing!!!!! Let Mary sing!!!!!!

[@leahflower9924]

@@alanmurr6562 the 2 twins are so tough lol they can't hide it i think Rizzo was inspired by them

[@karlfluegel]

Good song.. but why did Betty freeze up when the camera came on Her?

[@brianemc]

Hands Down "Best Damn Girl Group Ever" does not get any cooler! WAAAAAAY AHEAD OF THEIR TIME!!!! Awesome vocals!!!!! Todays groups, need notepad in hand!

[@oldstuffandcollect]

i still play the great group so often thankyou for posting my favourite girl group

[@1963TomV]

Why this song wasn't a Top 10 hit is a mystery to me. It's great in every way!

[@andrewbaran661]

Mucho agreements!

[@fgldnglbs]

You might think so because what was mediocre then was better than what's mediocre now.

[@jackanthony976]

It didn't get airplay..at least in Los Angeles.

[@tonysantiago255]

It's #1 in my brain 'right now '.😊

[@darin271]

If you think this should have been rated higher then listen to "out in the street". Personally, I think it is the best song they ever did and it only came in at #53. You had to be British to chart back then.

[@cam0mila]

I love Mary, she's so pretty and original

[@AllenOption8]

This could be a hit now - by the right artist and brought to a modern arrangement.

[@anthonyanderson4350]

I love the twins, Margie & MaryAnn Ganser; they look so happy! They're cute too :))

[@WOODR52]

I knew Mary ann Ganser personally I was 10, she was 15 , and I loved her in 1963.

[@russellcampbell9198]

Glad to have found The Shangi-Las later in life. They were more than just another teen, girl group.

[@quester09]

Mary's hair was goals in 1965.

[@Madkid73]

Such a shame we never see more of Betty! Wow!

[@hebneh]

There is so much to like in this performance. The Shangri-Las dressed in short white boots, super-tight spangly pants and matching vests; go-go dancers on platforms behind them; and a really good song.

[@hotgritz4sho]

They were consider one of the more tough girl groups because of their stance, posture and outfits. I loved this about them. They weren’t bubblegum, chiffon ballgown- wearing conformists.

[@KingOFuh]

@@hotgritz4sho Many real surfers hated the Beach Boys when they first came on the scene, but I have a feeling that bikers would have loved hearing the Shangri-Las on the road house jukebox.

[@buny101]

i love this video...one of the few that shows all 4 members (betty was a part time member). And it shows--betty was a step behind in the dancing and singing. Very cool--makes it seem real to those of us that never got to see them in life.

[@joejones9520]

what a trip to have seen them at that time or to have hung out with them, to think these were real people one could have seen walking down the street heading to the studio or the candy store...they probably would have been smoking cigs and talking in that accent...wild clothes and tall hair. Wow.

[@dennisjohnson6794]

I knew these girls real well and I can tell you they were a lot of fun and always had a real good time.

[@WOODR52]

Did you really know them? Mary ann came to my house in queens in 63, with my babysitter shelly.. several times during summer. I was 10, she was 15. we played monopoly and she made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Didn't even know who she was until she was singing in the mirror with my babysitter. Shangri-las! I met all of them at a performance in NYC. they signed my album and pictures. Mary ann died when I was in high school. I had to go home early from class cause I felt so sad.

[@budmangt2]

@RecordsOrama At that time there were tons and tons of great bands...very stiff competition...now that we look back we see that all of the groups back then and there music even B sides would be consider number one now.....Mary keep on rockin girl..I love your new CD

[@Imissthepostoffice]

Great girl group. Great producers ! Mary had that very fantastic voice !!!!! I think that Betty was not really into it (not being the main singer). The twins always seemed to hang in there and they were always awesome. LOVE this group ! Marianne

[@MrRJDB1969]

The lead, Mary Weiss, is gorgeous !

[@johnjarou2357]

MrRJDB1969 betty,even more so.

[@johnjarou2357]

+Derrick Mims ok.

[@MrRJDB1969]

Well, I'm sticking with Mary . lol.

[@wanderer1960]

+MrRJDB1969 Agree, Mary was a babe! She also had a fantastic voice.

[@georgepenton6023]

MrRJDB1969 Of course all four of them are gorgeous. I didnt know until about a year ago that they were white girls!

[@andrewr62]

These girls were totally unique. Hated their songs as a kid, feel in love with them as an adult. They are well represented on my ipod.

[@TheDj3a]

I'm singing this marvelous song at a block party in Teaneck NJ this Sunday, for Mary, Mary Ann, Betty and Marge. RIP twins!!!

[@istzxca]

there's a short little instrumental hook in this song that is lifted right out of "back in my arms again", released a few months earlier.

[@christheone8773]

This tune only made it to #99 on the Billboard Hot 100 in early 1965-

[@georgegunzerath489]

My friend who was in a band got to play with the shangri-las when they came to our town

[@Dcofycats]

Favorite video of my absolute favorite girl group of the 1960"s.

[@Jeffrey.Seelman]

The best girl group by far of the 1960's . I love them.

[@DzaVideo]

@Starclear They don't really suit being lumped into that 1960's "Girl Group" genre, I think. They bear no similarities to groups like the the Supremes, Ronettes, Crystals, Chiffons, et al. They were just a 60s rock/pop band who's members happened to be comprised of females. No?

[@rascal211]

The Supremes were the top.

[@SUPERFLY-ky7yh]

This lady's group reminds me of a transformation between the 50s and the 60s.

[@jorgezenteno588]

Mary Weiss was definitely the hottest of them all! But all the other girls are still looking great! Very underrated 1960's girl group. The Shangri-Las deserve to be inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. (And not Beyonce smh.) This girl group is literally one of my favorite artists to listen to. :D

[@johnjarou2357]

+Jorge Zenteno have to disagree with you there. mary was good looking ; but betty was the real knockout of them all.

[@jorgezenteno588]

John Jarou You could say whatever you want about Betty, but Mary is the knockout for me haha.

[@jorgezenteno588]

John Jarou But overall, I wished they released a DVD of their full live performances or something. Would be so worth it.

[@johnjarou2357]

+Jorge Zenteno well, to each his own.

[@johnjarou2357]

+Judith Senning actually, downright sexy.

[@TheRecordSaver]

I agree with you 100%, Packard.. I just discovered this song recently and I absolutely LOVE it. And all four of them were indeed beautiful (Mary and Betty still are). What I think made them so popular was the fact that teens could identify with their attitude, their emotions and their pain of heartbreak, all of which easily shone through Mary's voice.

[@unclebobunclebob]

I was never into these ladies as a kid, but now I can appreciate Mary's voice and the distinct style. I actually thought that they were a black group when I was younger. They've so much soul.

[@cocoaorange1]

So did James Brown, and another artist, I think Quincy Jones, until they met them. They toured with the Beatles as well.

[@eugeneendres5846]

The girl groups of the 60's were fantastic. They were pretty too !

[@dylanakent]

Shangri-Las RULE! QUEENS, NYC!! 🗽🌎

[@AnthonyMonaghan]

HOT! Oh Mary marry me now please. What a great sound, you can see the influence even now all these years later. Timeless...

[@PaulDePace]

Nice observations Bunny! I love having Betty in here, and yes, it is obvious that she is kind of going through the motions / looking over at Mary Ann and Margie to check things out! Incidentally, Betty "grew up" to be really beautiful! Wow! And so sad that Margie and Mary Ann passed away at young ages.... Love Mary Weiss who has said the Shangs' street-girl image wasn't close to their real personalities...which were really basically representative of typical teenagers of the day!

[@billkazen4683]

I disagree with Paul...a friend of mine told me his older brother played in the band for those tours..he said the girls lived up to their "badass" image..giving BJs to the guys in the back of the bus..smoking weed in '65 rtc. Who knows if really true? But if it is true, i love them even morw...billythek

[@theunrealtimemm]

@@billkazen4683 Rumour holds that Betty's frequent absences were due to various medical-related things due to overindulgence and/or sex. Who knows?

[@Daveyengland]

Tim Emm - sex? Technically. She was pregnant...

[@theunrealtimemm]

@@Daveyengland I try not to discuss deviant stuff like pregnancy and heterosex, so I was being coy. ;)

[@hotkissy22]

WOW im not from this music era but my parents were and my mom was the same age as Mary during this time and I grew up to this music and it is bad ass and talent like that should always be appericated!!

[@markxoc]

Two sets of twins! From the same high school (Andrew Jackson) on Staten Island. They lived two streets away from each other ! when they would walk home from school they would pass a Chinese restaurant, called the Shangri-La Palace. They said the smell of the delicious food made them work hard harder, because their ultimate goal in life was to be able to go in the Shangri-La Palace, and sit down and have anything they wanted! A guy named shadow Morton was there producer. He said that he was out of gas and stuck by the bay front, hoping someone would stop as the night grew on. He took his suit off, and was resigned to go to sleep in his car. When he woke up, he had this sound in his ear of seagulls and waves crashing on the sand, and he knew he had to write a song! He went to school and found the girls in the lunch room on their study hall break and pitched the idea to them. Mary replied we have eight dollars to our fucking names! If you can take that, and make history by all means shadow , lead the way! He went to the library and collected some soundtracks from a video from the national geographic program. He recorded seagulls and waves crashing. He had everything he needed except a motorcycle. They had a date set for the recording. They found a guy driving a Harley Davidson in Brooklyn, and he agreed to drive over to the city and sneak the motorcycle into the studio! He said he needed three dollars to fill up his tank and the address of the place which happened to be the Roosevelt Hotel because the record company had a recording studio there. When he got there, security refused to let him bring this big motorcycle into the hotel lobby. They only have a two track recorder! They definitely needed a motorcycle for the leader of the pack. They had everything else they needed for walking in the sand and two other records that flopped time was running out because they were only given 30 minutes with a 30 minute extension if necessary to cut all four of the songs. Shadow went outside to have a cigarette and think there was a pawnshop next-door and he made a deal to rent a lawnmower for 15 minutes for two dollars. He brought the lawnmower in and that’s what they used for a mighty motorcycle engine! He was a pretty good engineer for someone who never had any experience! By the end of the night they had mixed and recorded the version that you hear of leader of the pack, and what started out to be called walking in the sand, but I believe they changed the title. Mary was the last one to pass away, and she just died a few weeks ago after the group split up Mary was a successful, corporate office furniture designer. When the girls got to be of age, they got legal right to have all of their contracts revealed to them. All four of the girls were paid less than 4% total! Monies that were supposed to be held in escrow for when they turned 21 never existed. You can find a story on 2020 in reference to a guy name Dick, Fox, and the way he and several other long nosed men, robbed these teenage girls !

[@gymshoe8862]

Betty and Mary weren't twins but they did look similar--Betty was a year or two older, not a full time member of the group. They wanted her in but she had a life of her own--boyfriends, pregnancy, etc. She was a real beauty but life got in the way.

[@vincentm614]

Ive read how they inspired the punk movement later in the 70s and I do hear it in the Ramones music produced by Phil Spector where Joey Ramone takes on some of the vocal inflections of Mary Weiss. But the Shangra Las here sound like The Supremes especially the backing tracks and the tenor sax and their dance movements.

[@supremes1964]

LOVE THE MOTOWN SOUND and This one SOUNDS GREAT! BRAVO! Notice? the lyric "BABY" is often use. Never heard this song until today THANKS KZbin LOL

[@alanmurr6562]

Mary Weiss and her sister Betty were as beautiful as a woman could be! But so was Marge and Mary Ann Ganser the twin sisters! These 4 Angels were the best looking and sexiest rock n roll band of all times!!!!! I remember how the 3 (no Betty) girls thrilled me one summer late Saturday afternoon on the Upbeat show on TV in Cleveland from 5 pm to 6 pm. I was overwhelmed by how sexy they were!!!!!! They became my hero's then! Oh yes, they made GREAT music too!

[@Cissy2cute]

Don't know why but this is one of my favorite songs. Like the tune and, of course, the singing.

[@Daveyengland]

We need the Shangri-La’s in full colour HD

[@frank61ism]

you're right,it is a good song. i never even heard it before today.

[@Musicblue22]

it's cool to see clips of them performing as 4

[@christheone8773]

thanks for the chart clarification, I wasn't quite sure - when they debuted this song on the "Shivaree" TV show in 1965, you would have thought for sure this would have at least hit the Top Ten!!

[@cynthiaedwards6012]

This is my favorite Shang song!

[@thebeachboyschannel]

Thank you so much for posting this!

[@54nomore]

The Bad girls of Rock & Roll were just so awesome.

[@wheez123]

Hope you people are aware that Mary Weiss just finished off her new lp (to be released in Springtime 2007 on Norton records)! She is backed by The Reigning Sound!!Rumors in garage circles are that it's gonna be mindblowing!!! I cannot wait!!!!

[@1061andy]

The Shang's were brill - along with the Ronettes they were the best of the Girl Groups, love this Motown inspired offering !

[@PAULLONDEN]

This has definitely a Motown groove to it.

[@Pimp-Master]

Yeah, but it doesn't have the Motown simplicity.

[@fmtalks1386]

It was produced by Robert Bateman, who had been with Motown.

[@John283T]

It's true. The way they're dressed was considered Scandalous in the 60s. But this is what made them such a hit. They were pretty, sexy in the way they dressed and moved on the stage, and they sounded good. That was rare in the 60s. Most female singers weren't so Hot.

[@oldguy8382]

I’m pulling one sound here that rebounds in my head from The New Colony Six song “I Confess” chorus. Try to see yourself. It seems to be the same time era. Anyway, this is a nice song.

[@oldstuffandcollect]

beautiful the music and the ladies ah just magic

[@gao1258]

thanks for the upload, sound is better than my cd version lol.

[@frighteneddreamer2978]

LOL! Look at 1:34 Margie looks scared, when a girl from the audience started to scream!!

[@user-io5fq3jv8q]

Well they were very young girls (15). Took them a while to realize they were big hits!

[@alanmurr6562]

She was only 17 and not used to girls screaming at her as if she was John Lennon. Kind of like when you was a infant, all noises made you cringe.

[@jackanthony976]

You would think they would be used to this sort of thing from the audience by now.

[@larsstrombach1908]

@ Twins!

[@1761Charlie]

Mary Weiss . . . was every teenage boy's dream girl . . . and I was one of them. Ooooh baby!

[@38ddkelly]

This is a good song. Interestingly, it spent only 2 weeks on the Hot 100. The week of October 9, 1965 it was # 99. The following week, it was still stuck at # 99.

[@southlondon63]

+Kelly02895 Aint a clue why that was, this is a very catchy tune

[@Daveyengland]

southlondon63 - no promotion by the record company by the sounds of things. No promo, no sales... always been that way.

[@theoutsider4066]

The most under rated girl group of the Sixties ….. & in my opinion the very best.

[@AllenOption8]

They were amazing. KInda punk - but real pop with some kickin' beat. Like this one.

[@joehepworth9984]

They were involved in the punk CBGB crowd. Planned on getting back together but…..

[@laminage]

You're right Eddieb715. Mary Wilson admitted that because Motown didn't always pay the artists properly, many of them moonlighted behind Motown's back so maybe this was one of their outside projects.

[@deoppressoli-bear2600]

This was the Shangri-la's best. True.

[@josephmorabito4439]

My favorite Shangri-Las song too.

[@cassiusdio1138]

Lords Damn.. those leather outfits.. meeeyowww

[@duffbaker9554]

Maryann's fits the best for these eyes..

[@hotgritz4sho]

Great vintage find! Why wasn’t Betty sing along more tho? I know they were very young. They look fabulous here.

[@christheone8773]

LOVE those dance moves - outta sight!!

[@cynthiapickett7403]

By this time the Motown influence was really starting to manifest.