The Shield - Shane and Vic's last conversation

Season 7 Episode 13. I do not own anything, all rights belong to FX.

[@anothercolby1848]

Vic saying he was going to visit Shane's kids is what brought him over the line. If Vic didn't say that then maybe Shane wouldn't have killed his family

[@Showbiz505]

Shane was gonna do it regardless, he doesn’t think before he acts

[@cathleenwarner1778]

I think Vic was the straw that broke the camel's back

[@stevekombolis]

Family Annihilators are convinced their families are better off dead than living without them. Once Shane knew he had no out he was probably going to do it regardless, although I'd imagine what Vic said made it easier for Shane to lie to himself about needing to do it

[@wkr64691]

Another small but insidious touch was Vic saying that both he and Ronnie had deals so that Shane wouldn’t think to try and alert Ronnie that Vic had sold him out.

[@noahmclaughlin7921]

Yep. While Vic obviously couldn’t have predicted Shane would go that far, it was Vic’s actions that drove Shane to the point of murder suicide.

[@cche16]

that one phone call ruined everyone's lives.

[@StrongandGrand]

It was already ruined. This just put the exclamation on the sentence. But I feel you!

[@PhilLeotardosGhost]

You can feel Shane's despair here. He knows life in prison or suicide are his only options.

[@fkinnuts]

those or abandon his family by going alone which its impossible due to his love for the family and being in prison maybe could help mara with less time, he didnt want to, combined with his no friends, his best old friend insulting him and being socially unstable, using drugs and rob minor shi, prob a crazy but the most accurate choice for being shane, also a good reference to chris benoit incident so yeah, perfect conclusion to a peak character

[@reinbere]

My estimation of Shane Vendrell as a man just fuckin plummeted

[@robloxgang2062]

@@reinbere to cry like a woman? Its a fucking disgrace

[@chrisgarret3285]

and he just wouldn't compromise like you Uncle Phil, is that right?

[@jaybrewer3990]

With Antwone Mitchell grinning in the shadows waiting for lifelong payback for the "N-Word, fa--ot son!" if Shane had gone to prison.

[@Showbiz505]

So serious when I say this, one of the greatest scenes in television history.

[@kdizzle901]

I agree this and the scene where Shane tells Vic the truth about Lem I can recite both scenes word for word lol

[@lifeisberserk9566]

It's fax

[@codysparks1454]

Absolutely. And the scenes that follow afterwards and on par as well

[@luismedina9021]

Fukkkkk yessssss!!!

[@nicojuncos]

One of the best TV Shows EVER MADE !! THIS is so good as The SOpranos and Breaking Bad ! 🙌

[@denwo1982]

Love how Shane says “ClauDETTE” in the telephone conversation

[@burnt_ramen9757]

Her name holds so much power to them by this point

[@pbf7719]

Walton Goggins is so good an actor that he made you feel for Shane in the end, despite the terrible things he did

[@zsahe21]

For real

[@somnuswaltz5586]

Nah. His and Mara's downfall and ending was VERY satisfying to me 👍

[@tayojones9460]

@somnuswaltz5586 Are you bloody serious,? What about Jackson? Are you glad he died? Serious grow up and get help!

[@OVHOEAubreythePedophileKing]

​@@tayojones9460Jackson was a means to an end. Had to be done. Regardless if it was a child or not. Doesn't change anything. Still had to be done. And I'm all for it

[@terrelltownsend8016]

Giving Vic that blackbook blew up in Shane's face.

[@corephoenix3249]

Not all,vic probally would remember everything,and is way smarter than shane

[@NightmareKing305]

See what you did there

[@terrelltownsend8016]

@@NightmareKing305 Lol. Well I meant as far as backfiring on him, but yeah I get why you thought I was talking figuratively.

[@flan_2003]

Shane's arrogance while being dirty always blew up in his face.

[@andrewadams4815]

Yeah but to be fair taking the ICE deal eventually blew up in Vic's face not only has his family left and turned against him but so has the entire precinct he used to work for. Plus he ended up betraying Ronnie the last most loyal member of his team and was powerless to warn him when he got arrested his ICE position is basically just a desk job and his employer who he had been previously manipulating is determined to make his life hell just so he will violate the terms of his agreement. And even when he completes his job for three years he's now persona non grata at every law enforcement place in America. So compared to that Shane killing his family and then himself is more of a happy ending than Vic will ever have or deserve.

[@kdizzle901]

From best friends to worst enemies

[@corephoenix3249]

Like Walt and Jesse

[@lifeisberserk9566]

Guts and griffith

[@corephoenix3249]

@@lifeisberserk9566 i need to read berserk fastest i can,it looks nice

​@@corephoenix3249they were never friends just associates

Yes just like families to enemies too

[@ahmetfuat12]

Desperation of Shane is so alive i can feel that

[@wkr64691]

This and the confession scene are the truly mask off moments for Vic. Free of any obligation or use for others he shows his truly vicious nature.

[@abrahamlupis9354]

since the ending of the first episode we knew that Vic wasn't a saint

[@wkr64691]

@@abrahamlupis9354 what I mean is he always tried to couch his actions in something noble minded - providing for his family, protecting the team - but now that he’s free of the fear of prosecution he acts like the monster he always was

[@matthewthomas9189]

💯

[@Elake_Simon]

2:45 This is probably the coldest cruelest thing Vic ever said to someone. That he's basically telling Shane he's gonna be the new "father" to his kids and tell those kids the "good old stories" about their real parents, the "bad side" of their real parents. Making sure Shane's kids will resent both him and Mara. So Vic plans to do these things just out of spite....Dang. I know the reasons why he wants to punish shane like this but still. Ice cold, man.....

[@someokiedude9549]

It's that moment like when Walt looks Jesse in the eye in Breaking Bad and tells him that he watched Jane die. Just pure evil in his voice.

[@postmastersgt1670]

Its crazy that it came to this when Shane and Vic started out they were like brothers but fast foward to this moment where they are mortal enemies.

[@enak413]

Breaking the bathroom mirror for a surface to snort off of ... so symbolic of everything crashing down around him

[@MegaLittlePaw]

Again and again I return back to this scene to refresh my impression landed by probably the best piece of acting I've seen in TV shows of all kinds.

[@seancotter9156]

Greatest TV show ever!!!!

[@SSJBartSimp]

Damn you can absolutely feel Shane's desperation here. This is as good as the Walt/Skyler phone call.

[@kdizzle901]

I think it’s better more cleverly written with the passive aggressive quips Vic calling Mara Annie Oakley and saying he’ll send him a postcard from Space Mountain and it’s the final time they talk…….then Shane’s note says it all…….Walt a little to easily snuck into Skylar’s new apartment while dying of cancer……….Walt and Skylar got a proper goodbye

[@errwhattheflip]

I'd argue that Walt and Skyler's phone call is better because of its emotional complexity. It brings out what we'd expect to be years of frustration from Walter but ultimately is just one of the few selfless moments from Walt. I think it's an incredibly well structured scene. But yes both are fantastic scenes@@kdizzle901

[@Voffsing1]

Breaking Bad has nothing on The Shield.

[@errwhattheflip]

@@Voffsing1 It gets a lot actually

[@wkr64691]

I like breaking bad but I never thought anything in it was as cutting as seasons 5-7 of the shield

[@Mattroge]

Man, Walton Goggins is so good, you can just feel the despair and desperation oozing out of him in this.

[@famalam943]

It’s sad how they went from brothers to this. This is the moment Shane knows it’s all over. It’s when those good times end.

[@kiko1935]

Killing lem ruined everything

[@skylermoody3587]

You make your bed, you lie in it

[@haybarnvideo]

Master class in acting. I hope I never know such stress.

[@RisingTidesAC]

WWith that much stress, cocaine is the wrong drug.

[@carsinruin6102]

Dang, I forgot how sinister this all was.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Well I'll send you a postcard from space mountain 🤳

[@lance8236]

Breathing deep, breathing easy!

[@vashthestampede11]

What incredible is both of them are right. Shane could never be as smart as Vic no matter how hard he tried. But Vic would be never be loved by his family the way Shane's loved him. Just a perfect ending

[@mikegleed5842]

Postcard from Space Mountain 😂

[@AndrewMiE]

Loved that ride as a kid

[@RadioactiveSince1990x]

What a line lol

[@JoseLopez-dv5rk]

I cut those strings baby 🤣

[@burnt_ramen9757]

This is the kind of scene you never expect from the show going in, by the end of the show it's so far removed from the police procedural genre that it used as a basis yet it's still so much more real to the police system than any of those shows even think of being.

[@WQuantrill]

Antwon Mitchellville doesn’t sound like a very nice place lol

[@omegamanGXE]

BBC

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Kawkmeetsammichville

[@Slasha3]

@@Cantstopfactsbruh more like "instantandpayfuldeathville". I don't think Antwon would want to make Strike him his b*tches. He wanted them completely dead.

[@jaybrewer3990]

​@@Slasha3Maybe, or that he would want Shane alive as long as possible to impossibly suffer. Maybe turn him into a quadriplegic used as a human toilet in one of the cells.

[@flan_2003]

Shane never checked on this deal or nothing. Vic could've been bullshitting here for real, and Shane would've fell for it.

[@corephoenix3249]

Shane knows vic enough to feel he was not lying,vic wouldn't risk either,shane was fucked up very good

[@gianni206]

How would Shane even check that sorta thing? They’ll arrest him anyways

[@timpope7274]

Free Ronnie.

[@derrick-uw2pi]

Felt so bad for Ronnie. He said the should run several times and vince talked him out of it.

[@box228]

Ronnie is in Antwon MitchellVille😢

[@flan_2003]

In that universe, Ronnie is probably dead by now being in Antwon Mitchellville, unless he was able to secure PC.

[@sausagesausagesausage]

With Shane dead, was there any corroborating evidence? Vic is the only witness. And he is hardly a reliable witness.

[@lh7325]

Why? He's not on the same level as Vic or Shane but he's still a corrupt scumbag.

[@corephoenix3249]

damn they got another the shield vid down for good on YT. this is the only ''vic and shane last conv'' on the all yt it seems. the other video had almost 2k views and they put down,goddmann FX rights!

[@somnuswaltz5586]

What are you, the Rainman? Counting matches? You keep track of youtube video counts and re-upload video counts? 😂😂😂

[@ronanios9062]

​@@somnuswaltz5586?

[@corephoenix3249]

​@@somnuswaltz5586kinda off haha

[@somnuswaltz5586]

@corephoenix3249 nah I think I'm pretty dead on. I bet you know the exact number of views and likes all of Vic Mackeys clips had on YT before his original account got taken down.

[@ThomasLynch-ti7wr]

Yea I tried to upload some Shield clips and they got axed right away.

[@cathleenwarner1778]

Shane just totally sold out Corrine and put her in danger

[@kdizzle901]

Vic has no clue where they are they’re in Rockford Illinois he’s in LA on permanent desk duty for 3 years if he misses one day of work it violates the immunity deal and he goes to prison for everything he admitted to

[@cathleenwarner1778]

@@kdizzle901 he still told her that she was working against him. Thinking she was being arrested is what made him confess everything and send ronnie to prison

[@fkinnuts]

@@cathleenwarner1778 thats vic fault, he tought he cut off all things connected like shane, Shane atleast had the courage to told him he wasnt going to have his happy ending, he was going to fall like all and his decisions from the start made he and the others a monster, remember a time when killing terry was something shane hated and wanted to leave because of that, pressure and evolution made him that, great acting, writing and performance, but still vic brought himself all of it, and pretty much the shows tell us that

[@Slasha3]

After Mara threatening Corrine and Corrine still working with police, he didn't have any reason NOT to sell her out. He had zero sympathy for both Vic and Corrine

[@nathanmiller8213]

​@@kdizzle901Which is why he became a trucker when his deal was done, traveling all over and keeping an eye (classic "if you know you know" ref)

[@ricksanchez2425]

Love miss this show

[@gurusheat3506]

BREATHING DEEEP BREATHING EASY

[@Moltisantiproductions]

3:00 Walton goggins is an amazing actor holy shit

[@omegamanGXE]

Galton Woggins is better

[@davids6698]

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. Savage way to end the call

[@dante22723]

This shits too sad man 😢

[@nic2053]

This was the moment when I started hating on Vic and when Ronnie was arrested.

[@joshuameeker]

Final season was as good as any show ever made

[@sebastianemond5313]

3:18 - 3:28 (From the Producers) Leo Bloom: "No way out. No way out. No way out."

[@beyondz55]

Did this show get remastered? I had heard it was getting a 4K??+!! Need that

[@braddodge8970]

Anyone have fallout bring them back to this amazing scene..? One of the best

[@Sinatra021]

It's inspirational, this should have been his last gig you know only known for playing that one character. He still build a

[@MrN0where]

Funny thing is that I finished season 2 of The Shield and took a break to binge Fallout and I was surprised to see Walton Goggins again as The Ghoul.

[@hasshaf]

This scene is up there with the scene with Walt, Jesse and the Nazis in Breaking Bad episode Ozymandias

[@jeffrey8977]

throughout the series. shane tried to be vic, and it was his doom.

[@KibaRanger_Kou]

I don't think this call was the tipping point. Shane was as stable as a three legged chair at this point, tripped out on rdugs and he was already weighing up taking his own life. He's cotemplated as early as finding out Lem didn't betray the team and he killed him for no reason. OF course Vic pissed on this fire but I don't think Shane offed himself and his family just because of VIc's call.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Lol what

[@Slasha3]

Shane was as stable as a three legged chair from S1E2. Probably from S1E1 but we didn't know much about him then

[@rampageclover9788]

To be honest, neither of these guys win at end…

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Vic is picking up random broads on his CDL routes

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

The writers should have had someone call him Victor just once for the shock value.

[@danielmacconnadubh816]

Is David Mamet the voice of the lawyer on the phone?

[@debestcanadian]

I'm pretty sure that the lawyer on the phone is played by Lewis Black, the stand-up comedian.

[@nathanieldames]

0:09 3:00 3:10 3:05 3:38

[@kamsandwich6990]

Is there a lot of flaws in the justice system in California? Yes. Do they fudge around when it comes to homicide? No.

[@Derekivery]

Shane is a tragic character, because his downfall was wanting to be like Vic.

[@mikekling7144]

What made Shane think calling Vic was a good idea?

[@jessebailey5962]

He didn't know vic made a deal and Shane thought he still had leverage on vic. He knew Corrine was with police and that's why he called vic instead of her. He was probably going to try and get vic to get him cash or get him to another country where they would never deal with each other again. I'm sure at that point working on a goat farm in Mexico sounded nice.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Because he was helping him before the deal with ICE. If Vic didn't help Shane get away, Shane would snitch about EVERYTHING they've done. Vic got himself immunity by snitching first 😂

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

#FREERonnie Ronnie was framed

[@mikegleed5842]

The Ghoul #Fallout

[@raymondsims7042]

He Carry’s fallout that show for the most part isn’t good unless he’s in it

[@abrahamlupis9354]

this should be his background

[@Ratking_Actual]

Why smash the mirror though? Just put the coke on the side of your hand tf

[@jeffrey8977]

ronnie should have said nothing, NOTHING, when he was betrayed at the end.

[@BrizzyBrake]

Kendrick and drake beef lol

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

Much worse than that

Shane and Vic ain't shit the only real one was Ronnie who was loyal

[@StrongandGrand]

See where that got him. Lem, too.

@@StrongandGrand Yes

[@danlora5599]

I never understood how they implicated him Terrys murder. That’s one of the things that gets said but is totally untrue. The only real case was money train. Why on gods earth Vic confessed to that is beyond me. They had no true cases on him. The worse was aiding and abetting. If he confess to that and basically said Ronny had no idea I told him to just meet Corrine with this bag that’s it. Everything else would have been speculation. I love this show but the lead to the end always pisses me off 😂

@@danlora5599 who Ronnie?

[@danlora5599]

@ They really had no case against Ronnie. I also think case against Vic was rather weak. Most they had was aiding and abetting.