The Shocking Scenes Inside The 1984 McDonald's Мassacre-Victims thought it was a joke

[@crimeatoz]

Thank you @BB-zs4dl for recommending this incredibly sad and tragic case. The victims are all angels.🕊🕊🕊

[@debbymccormack6525]

The music is very annoying. ETA ~ please rethink using music when you're talking. What's the point?

[@Zxlok]

@@debbymccormack6525 there’s like 10 ads on it too fs

[@Natty0975]

@@debbymccormack6525 if you're not happy .... you don't watch the video. Plain and simple 🙄🙄🙄 I would really love to see if you could better. Why are you here anyways ? 🙄🙄🙄

[@Natty0975]

@@Zxlok You don't like it ... don't watch the video. Why are you here anyways ? 🙄🙄🙄

[@Zxlok]

@@Natty0975 I’m not, I left halfway through because the music was unbearable and the ads were obnoxious.

[@tonyhill1264]

I was 15 years old and on a trip to Mexico where we ate at this McDonald's 2 hours before this started. I will never ever forget how lucky we were.

[@paulmenifee]

I was on the way to surf in Baja..we stopped there about 4 hours before the shooting...when we got back two days later we were shocked.

[@MrJuvefrank]

I was afraid to eat at McDonald's when I was young because I thought it happened at the McDonald's in La Habra, CA.

[@kathleenmalikowski2784]

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[@kathleenmalikowski2784]

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[@bauer_]

Huge respect for taking the time to name all the victims. May their souls rest in peace.

[@caesarvalentin6332]

When are these horrible mas murders going to stop?

[@lambykin842]

@@caesarvalentin6332with the state of things here in a american....probably not anytime soon, not even in our lifetimes, if ever.

[@JingJongJimmy]

@@caesarvalentin6332Just stop greed/overconsumption. That’s how you stop all/most modern problems.

[@johnjaso1349]

@@caesarvalentin6332 sin is in all of us.

[@Zamirys18]

@@johnjaso1349 But thankfully our Lord Jesus Christ came to set us free from sin and death!

[@crimegeek]

The horror. Even the baby wasn’t shown any mercy. The crime scene was a nightmare and some. Rip to all of the true victims.

[@xoangelicaf0523]

That mad me cry so bad.. an innocent baby omg that’s just so ludicrous

[@saulcarvajal7911]

When torment and darkness takes over a human being, a baby is nothing for them.

[@theresedavis2526]

Yet, the US refuses to address these mass shootings to this day!

[@GeorgeLista]

Keep that same energy for the thousands of Palestinian children massacred in the last couple weeks.

[@randymillhouse791]

@@xoangelicaf0523 Don't you love the USA? This is how it is. We just have to get used to living in the "greatest country."

[@MsMC-vr1jd]

40 years later and the madness goes on. Heartbreaking.😢

[@shellibelli4387]

It’s nice that you place so much emphasis on the victims: those who died,or were injured physically or mentally.

[@at9370]

No it is not. It is contrived, phoney, and completely transparent.

[@harleyrhodesbates]

@@at9370 🤡

[@SUPERSPAZD]

@@at9370🙄

[@skoop651]

this is a tts voice

[@DesignByKirk]

​@@skoop651what does that have to do with anything? i don't think they meant "emphasis" literally (as in the way the narrator spoke), rather emphasis simply means more attention was given to one thing over another ...

[@raerae6422]

The guy that tried to talk the sh0oter down after he had killed the first 2 victims is a hero. So brave to risk his life hoping to save everyone. R.I.P Victor Rivera

[@johnnyrodriguez276]

Bro that's sad...that's why I carry a gun everywhere I go im not sweet talking to anyone a demon is a demon

[@dougmcconkey5126]

@@johnnyrodriguez276 Yes I agree

[@markwells6532]

It's also sad that no one thought to jump him when his gun jammed , but instead thought it was a joke bc it was 1984 and mass shootings wasn't a thing back then RIP 21 🙏

[@karmaMatters123]

@@markwells6532Also so sad that mass shootings in the U.S are “a thing” now. 😔🙏🏼

[@christopher9727]

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[@elizabethreavill8377]

My cousins were shot and killed here. My cousin Ronny Herrera survived but his wife Blyth and son Matto did not. This is such a heart breaking and sad situation. May those that did not survive rest in peace. Those that did survive my heart and prayers are with you always.

[@Tracy-rf7ri]

🙏

[@Dani-ICU-RN]

So sorry I remember this day..I lived in Huntington Beach,Cali... was 13.. we were shocked

[@mommieof5kids]

I'm so sorry that's so sad! 😢

[@amandaaddario7342]

stop putting yourself into these kinds of events. not everything has to be about you. this is selfish

[@Tracy-rf7ri]

@@amandaaddario7342 wow that was rude. That person was personally touched by what happened. You have no right to tell them how they can relate to it or not. So selfish.

[@ShariceBurrows]

I was born in 1984, and i had no idea this even ever happened. Thanks for making us aware of this tragedy.

[@LeadMe2TheBliss]

Same here. Well I was born in late December of 83 but I like to think I was born in 1984 because I was only alive for like 15 days during the year of 1983! : )

[@Wazabanga1]

Fellow 84 baby but me was October 2

[@nycthroify]

Same here born December that year and never heard of it

[@jjwashington3872]

Did nobody come to the hospital and tell you and the other newborns about this? That's hard to believe.

[@Mastectomy]

march 84 here.

[@JudithRandall-vz1zk]

One of the best documentaries I've seen on KZbin. It was clear, concise, thorough, respectful, and the narrator had a calming and cleat voice.

[@crimeatoz]

Thank you!!! We're glad you like it. It still stands as one of our own personal top 3 favoritr videos we've made. Also our hardest (saddest) but still our favorite production so far. Thank you for watching! ❤️❤️❤️

[@KellyTheWiseLadyHoF]

I agree. Definitely gonna subscribe

[@johnarundell7951]

A calming and clear voice? All I heard was an annoying drone with bizarre and unsettling pauses in every sentence for no reason, usually when he gets to the third last word of .. his script.

[@guitarsrcool4922]

AI? Sometimes there was a little too much detail.

[@uriahisonline]

Exactly how I felt listening too, surprised no one else has mentioned it. ​@@johnarundell7951

[@bobkirsch2722]

I was working at McDonald's at the time. I was 18 in 1984. I was terrified and still am when I see a story about this. So sick, sad and horrible. Those poor people especially the young boys killed when riding their bikes up to the doors.

[@phenomskllz2502]

What was it like being a teenager in the 80s

[@bobkirsch2722]

@@phenomskllz2502 so much fun

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

I wasn't a teen in the 80s but it was a fun time to grow up. The main difference is kids played outside together. People talked more and seemed happier. People now have much nicer stuff, bigger homes, nicer cars, more money. But people seem much unhappily. Sad

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

Could've been me. I used to ride my BMX to McDonald's on occasion in the 80s. I was 9 when this happened.

[@georgialee6755]

phenomskllz2502 It was great. I was 16 in ‘84

[@sassylady2001]

I was at this McDonald's drive thru the day this happened. My family lived in nearby San Ysidro. On this day, I put my toddler in his car seat and drove to McDonalds for lunch. I ordered lunch and then parked in the McDonald's parking lot to eat. Later that evening, I was shocked, absolutely dumbfounded, to learn of this shooting. I was also jolted by the realization that we'd just been there maybe 2 hours before the shooting. The events of that visit to McDonalds are etched in my mind. My toddler is now 43. yet I still can see him in his car seat, with a French fry dangling out of his mouth. He called them "frow fries". Part of the shock was that this was pretty much the first mass shooting in the US.

[@Tornado1994]

My Mom was stationed in Cape May,NJ at the time, She didn't like fast food much, I was only 18 months old so I didn't get my first taste of McDonalds until '85.

[@2027Judah]

The first major one was at that Texas college/university where that guy went up to the roof...back in the 60s I think

[@Tornado1994]

@@2027Judah Correct. In 1966.

[@TERRORHEAD4LIFE]

😮

[@JanaeSmith]

@@Tornado1994 Uh, what?

[@wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193]

This shooting scared my grandfather so badly that it effectively made him change the way he lived his life. He got a carry permit, wouldn't sit with his back to the door. He was so scared that it would happen to us too.

[@danzigmcnaniel5226]

He prepared as much as he could to protect his love ones once he realized such horror was a possibility. Sounds like an admirable man.

[@jazminmiller1071]

You’re grandfather is really smart and it makes you think how the victims and survivors didn’t have any warning

[@joketsu100]

Imagine if every good man carried. Good men need to protect us from bad men. That's what I believe.

[@colintomlinson2946]

​@@jazminmiller1071not really smart

[@colintomlinson2946]

​@@joketsu100good men don't carry guns because good men will never kill

[@afang5618]

I have to admit I have never heard of this shooting till today . I was 12 years old back in ‘84 and this story is both horrifying and heartbreaking.

[@marie-michelleanderson2851]

Since you say you were so young and were unaware of this crime I think I is important to make you aware of the first mass shooting in Montreal Canada which shocked the nation Canadians across the country mourned and tried and it was on the news with everyone crying. There were victuals in every single city across Canada. What happened was very shocking at that time I was 29 and working in a health food store I was planning on going to University but was not yet attending. People were coming in to work and sing to me that there was shooting going on at the University in Montreal of course we all could not believe this would be happening here it would only happen in the United States. This was before the internet which is hard for people to imagine now so if you wanted to know what was going on you have to watch TV for when the news came on or listen on the radio is they've talked about whatever the news was the radio if the people on the radio would actually talk about the news at that moment but of course news would have to come through reporters who were perhaps listening to police scanners and so on. By the time I got home I knew there was something very odd and shocking that was apparently going on at a school called Polytechnic which at that time I never heard of which was part of a French University. It was a science focussed University and that was where there was engineering was being taught. When I got home in the news came on the scenes are still stuck in my memory I cried as I watch the news I found my mother who had been watching and was crying as well. What was happening or had happened is that a young man raised by a single mom who had a sister whose father had been a Muslim and had to abandon the family to go back to his country his mother was a nurse and she was devastated by what happened. His sister was devastated as well. This young man had wanted to be an engineer and had applied but have been refused for that year and had been told that he needs to take some more classes to bring his grades up and show that he was ready and capable of following the program so that they suggested he try again next year after taking some more classes. But he was very angry and he was perhaps one of the first group of those men who feel that women have no right to attend University or no right to take traditional male careers and so he was very angry at how many young women were taking engineering classes he felt they had stolen his legitimate class. He went to the university this was the end of the term people were celebrating that Christmas was coming this happened December 6th 1989 it was a very cold night. He went into the University he went to classrooms carrying his semi-automatic rifle which of the time was legal to own.This massacre let to the beginning of a strong anti-gun sentiment across Canada especially in Quebec. The student survivors of the massacre those who had not had The Misfortune of Being in classrooms or in the hallways when he walked around shooting people started a strong anti-gun movement which I eventually began working with including going to Ottawa to letters to the editor. The only people who were against this were the rightful supporters who were rather attached to the NRA in the US and they were fighting it but because Canada does not have the right to bear arms we were lucky and work hard and were able to ban many assault rifles. What's this young man get whose name I still remember and traditionally people do not want to say it because it gives some kind of power to him. He went into the classrooms and separated the men from the women ordering the women to one side of the classroom and telling the men to leave. So the men did leave some of them aware that they were very lucky and others thinking it was some kind of joke because this was so not Montreal so not Canada. He then shot the women many of them died in total he murdered 14 women injured 14 other women most of them were students. There resulted a change in police policy prior to this massacre the policy has been to wait for the shooting to stop and then go into the building which is insane. When the police went in one of the officers came across his own daughter daughters shot dead in the cafeteria in a famous photograph of her slumped head hanging backwards. He had rushed up to each of the injured or possibly dead people to check if they were still alive and when he rushed to this person it was his own child. Every year December 6th there is a memorial service in Montreal for the Fourteen women and the survivors. Survivors and mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters still come to show how horrible this was and to keep sentiment and feeling strong to prevent any return of assault rifles into public hands. There was much anger and what was very upsetting where how many people were insisting that he had not targeted women despite the fact that all of the victims were women and he was found with a list he had printed out of all the public figures women figures in politics as news anchors famous artist doctors whatever singers he was out to get women. But at that time it was hard for people to accept the simple obvious truth and women were very angry about this they were saying if every one of the people dead were black it would be pretty bloody obvious that this was a specific hunt for a type of person in this case it was young women who were studying to be engineers. There were a lot of public backlash has that were difficult for many of the people involved for example many people were arguing that the men were cowards who had left the rooms and others said they didn't no and they didn't want to die. And what could they have done against the rifle this is the kind of argument that always happens around this kind of Massacre somebody should have done something. Also many people blame the mother for her cowardly child's actions. She suffered a great deal of public disgust and became profoundly depressed with mixed up anger hurt sorrow and guilt. His sister was so angry she became a drug addict and died as a result. This woman lost both her children. The story was turned into a movie which some people felt was in very bad taste but if you do ever get to see it you will see a pretty good rendition of what happened. Your Canadian fellow crime story follower

[@basbleupeaunoire]

I'm stunned that you don't remember this. It was a huge story.

[@FizzBuzz-ce9wz]

I was 10 years old and never heard of it. I stayed with my grandparents in the country that summer and they probably didn't want to tell me something like that.

[@spigetts]

I was 12 aswell and never heard this story either

[@basbleupeaunoire]

I am stunned that y'all managed to not hear about it. It was EVERYWHERE. It's like not hearing about the Columbine HS shooting. And not just on the news. People were talking to each other about it. There was a lot of talk about how Patti Smythe's song "The Warrior" was playing. ("Shootin at the walls of heartache, bang! bang!") I don't know if that was true or not.

[@Coffee_Lover-s8n]

My husband was stationed in San Diego and went to that McDonalds every weekend. When someone is in a mental health crisis 48 hrs is a long time for an appt and has already carried out their plan. These people need to be seen immediately whether they have a mental health history or not especially when they are calling for help.

[@KrazyIndeed]

Agreed. He reached out for help and was pushed aside.. People don't reach out for help when they're perfectly fine and not in 'crisis'... EVERY call should be a crisis!

[@DemonDrummer]

He shouldn’t have had guns…I’ll never understand America’s fascination with guns…

[@CSMaaaann]

While i generally agree with your statement, the question of having enough personnel to attend to every call. There could have been other people with more urgent needs as assessed by the person taking the call and just like with anything, you have to prioritize. If he sounded calm and collected and then you have someone else who is losing their mind, it’s easy to determine.

[@demcadman]

​@DemonDrummer we have hundreds of federal laws barring felons and screening for the mentally ill. Guns have always been legal in the US, but it's only recently that we have seen these type of shootings. This is a mental health crisis. Grabbing guns from law abiding citizens will stop nothing because these are the people who would NEVER commit these horrible acts.

[@scottdavidson526]

I was in the Navy and I remember stopping at San Ysidro. There was a McDonald's that I would stop at in San Ysidro, and I was thinking this is where the mass shooting happened. The video stated that they tore it down, so obviously that was a new location.

[@MrRifftheref]

I cannot conceive how terrifying it must have been for those people in that building.

[@PinkHeart4567]

Me either

[@ronlackey2689]

Sadly, they didn't have concealed carry back then. Instead of bravely shielding the children and hoping the sicko didn't come to your aisle you could have tapped 15-17 times and ended it.

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

People did conceal and carry then plus off duty cops. There just happened to be none there at the time

[@ronlackey2689]

@@Jeff-sp7bg Peeople can barely own a firearm in California in 2023. I find it hard to believe they could carry concealed in 1984. You couldn't even do that in Texas back then.

[@FlexBeanbag]

Agreed ​@@PinkHeart4567kzbin.infoBmc9NFfhx74?si=fLnZ4jk3L_y0BW6d

[@kg3858]

I remember this and was so deeply saddened by the news. I was 13 and felt so scared that someone could do this. It truly was our first exposure to crime like this.

[@racks27]

I was 15 yrs old,the girl i was seeing was 14yrs old ,we went everyday to that mcdonalds this shooting took place. By gods grace her aunt ,went groecry shopping ,is what saved both of us from being killed that day . I still think about that summer of 1984,,had her aunt went grocery shopping that morning or the day before ,,i would not be here commenting on this event ,, THANK YOU AUNT BETH,YOU ARE THE REASON YOUR NIECE -NICOLE AND MYSELF JEFFREY ,JAMES & CAROL'S NEPHEW . THATS HOW CLOSE DEATH IS AROUND US AT ALL TIMES .

[@dedasalmeida9047]

Amen brother 🙏🏾

[@racks27]

@@dedasalmeida9047 Thank you,,yes ,,the thought of that event still plays a part in my life,,,being greatful to be alive,,that day changed my life and many others too

[@happybirthdayand]

it wasn't your time.thank Gid u made it to this day on earth.when he's ready for u he will take u

[@susanbeemer4331]

Wow what an awesome story I'm so happy for you that you by the grace of God and her as well did not go there that one time... Wow... The coincidence of that..... You were both meant to be here on this earth longer than that day it's plain to see.... May both of you have only happiness and love in your lives

[@racks27]

@@susanbeemer4331 ,,thank you for your kind and caring comment . God bless you and all your loved ones

[@BucksSuperStereoWorld]

I seriously can't believe that the gunman's wife tried to sue McDonald's as well as B&W after her husband went nuts and killed multiple strangers. The nerve of some people...

[@Marie.b]

In fairness she lost her husband who in her mind went insane and was looking for answers herself. Normal reaction.

[@lynnetrathen4587]

What was her thoughts as to why she thought she could sue maccas 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@carteriffic1681]

@@Marie.bthe wife disregarded any clear signs of him killing people. He said that he was going to hunt for people and she did NOTHING.

[@emergencyrapidresponseteam7181]

Time for story time about the lawsuit. MSG and food additives does give people mental illness. In 1986 she sued because they give higher doses of MSG. So fast forward to 1984 why did Scarver kill all 3 of his victims including Jeffery Dahmer MSG and food additives. What is in our food a lot of chemicals all of us cannot pronounce. We are in the Age of Chem foods. We need to stop using MSG and food additives! Only all natural wholesome food!

[@eva5601]

I guess she was as crazy as him.

[@CeeOlleab388]

I am from the Philippines and this story came to me via your channel on KZbin, thank you for the very informative way in which you relayed the story. RIP to all those who were killed and to all those who were injured, may you be healed and whole.

[@LeeLee-mn4dv]

Well done. Thank you for displaying all their names. I have just sat here for five minutes in the YT comment box, looking at the blinking cursor. I don't know what to say. My heart keeps them close tonight. You do great work. Thank you.

[@kthaddeus6097]

It’s worth mentioning that the back door of the restaurant was chained shut as a theft deterrent. Had it not been chained shut, at minimum the 3 employees shot 30 minutes in escape unharmed. I believe it effectively trapped the people in the kitchen, forcing any survivors to the basement utility room.

[@diybronwynsmith263]

Oh that’s sad to know too!

[@Marinaaa96]

and if there was a fire, i'm sure mcdonalds would have been effectively sued. Sad, they didn't come to this verdict for this tragedy.

[@MrAdamNTProtester]

yeah it was a eugenics program by police & the perp... they all just waited until everyone was dead or believed to be dead before killing him & then they paid his ho

[@Sanakudou]

@@Marinaaa96 In the past fire doors were just normal doors and without locking them people would use them to enter and rob places so just about every business locked them, partially motivated by corporate greed, but also out of the era’s collective ignorance to just how much of a difference unlocked fire doors make in a life or death situation. I also doubt anyone back then would’ve had any awareness of the potential for an attack of this nature when deciding to chain fire doors shut. The current era fire doors were only invented in response to few major fires with massive death tolls that would’ve otherwise had zero fatalities if not for locked fire doors, they’re now the only fire doors that pass building fire codes. They have the big bar across them that you push down to unlock the door and open it, meaning people can always exist them without having to compromise store security. Not only is locking them now illegal, but stores have zero reason to EVER chain them shut, so seeing one chained shut or in anyway obstructed is a sign to get the hell out of there, even if nothing else seems to be amiss, as there’s unfortunately precedence for mass shooters covertly chaining them shut before they attack.

[@heather6668]

@@Marinaaa96 Yes but was that chaining of the door mandated by McDonalds as a corporation or by the franchise owners? Either way, whoever did that should be liable. They cost lives. There's an exit door there for a reason.

[@Preston-UNC]

This was terrible man, I remember I stumbled across this story years back and it made me feel so bad. A shooting lasting over an hour, and police not going in is insane. Crazy that still happens today

[@Sydney12997]

And now the Ulvade Elementary school shooting as well. Horrible…

[@joemac999]

Police are instructed not to get into dangerous situations. The idea that it's SUCH a dangerous job is ridiculous. They are given too much credit.

[@longgone9869]

I tell people all the time, just because the police show up, doesn’t mean the ordeal is over. Not only did we see it in Uvalde, but it happened in the Pulse nightclub in Orlando Florida. The police were told there were bombs placed in various locations around the building, and they did not enter for almost 3 hours.

[@longgone9869]

@@joemac999 in 1999 after the columbine shooting police protocol supposedly changed. They were no longer to wait outside until the entire swat team arrived, but were to make entry as soon as possible, directly seeking the shooter. They realize that waiting outside cost a lot of lives but for some reason they can’t regularly put these new protocols into practice. If you recall the police waited outside at Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school in Florida also

[@TheTruthKiwi]

So, you just want police to disregard their own lives and families and have to approach active shooters?

[@doracampos2088]

Omg I had never heard of this horrible masacre. 😢 What a horrible family! Thank you so much for the kind and respectful work. Naming every single victim and their age was kind. 🌹

[@teejaye6226]

This is one of the best, most detail-oriented true crime vids I've ever seen! Actual vids, photos, crime scene locations...not just generic, unrelated stock footage with a voice-over. Liked/Scribed!

[@karentharp9328]

I've seen this story before. But never as detailed and informative than this. Absolutely broke my heart!

[@patriciaratliff-tucker2323]

I remember when this happened. My family was young and I really didn't have time to pay it the attention it deserved. Thank you for naming each victim and giving them reverence. Such a tragic case. I remember being afraid to go to the local McDonalds with my babies.

[@koltred]

thanks for being a smart parent. its not that these parents were wrong for their baby crying.. but anything u do in public can bother others and its best to keep a low footprint, and if keeping your children quiet or from disturbing others will make them safer, then we all owe it to children to influence that.

[@Ronnie86753]

@@koltred wth??? Weird

[@jondra1693]

@@koltred what in god’s name are you talking about?

[@Cobber.]

@@koltredwhat brought that episode on ?

[@LONEWOLF-rq5tl]

I don't because I wasn't even born yet for it wasn't born till 1987, it's TRULY sad and nothing but a pure act of EVIL hands down and it's sad to see so much of this happening these days now.

[@callmebailo772]

I’ve heard of this event before. I didn’t know the wife tried to sue McDonald’s, though. The nerve of her!

[@MrAwesomeman444]

even mcds giving her money. pretty pethetic

[@Marie.b]

Why shouldn't she? She thought they made her husband mentally ill.

[@emergencyrapidresponseteam7181]

MSG and food additives do make a lot of people insane especially Scarver who is more famous for killing Jeffrey Dahmer. She sued in 1986. Guess what every mass shooter has in common high dosage of MSG and eat food additives. We eat Chen food here in US where anyone can turn into a violent killer because of food additives and MSG!

[@justinedse8435]

@Marie.b Just because she's a moron doesn't entitle her to anything.

[@gothicmatter9123]

@@Marie.bits an excuse she should have gotten her husband's help 😒🤦🏻‍♀️

[@vinimaguire8109]

That was certainly one of the better documentaries I've seen covering the awful but now all too similar events of mass shootings in the USA..For that reason you guys get my subscription.

[@chefpetrie]

You did a great job being completely tactful and respectful while conveying a very detailed description of the horrific situation.

[@kyrasimone7779]

The daughter really went through it bad. The fact she’ll rather have killed her father than live with his horrible actions speaks a lot.

[@Cappadonna72]

The daughter didnt seem right either........ IMO

[@Aarrrow]

​@@Cappadonna72 No shit. She was shaped by him.

[@hummingbird94ful]

@@Cappadonna72 Exactly! She saw everything unfolding through her bedroom window and did not call 911 or tell her mom, or someone and try to stop it? I have no words? She allowed it to happen and did absolutely NOTHING! Terrible, selfish preteen! NO EXCUSE she was young. You KNOW right from wrong at that age and have compassion and empathy!

[@1977TA]

@@hummingbird94ful You guy do realize that even if she told her mom and called the police, the response time would have still been terrible because in 1984 law enforcement was unprepared to handle active shooter situations. They got caught with their pants down and it showed. 77 freaking minutes before they took out the shooter. When they arrived, they just hunkered down outside instead of infiltrating the building. This allowed the shooter to kill more people. There was nothing that 12-year-old girl could have done other than stopping her father before he left the house. By the time she figured out he was in the McDonalds killing people it was too late. It's unfair for anyone in this comment section to judge that girl 40 years later from the safety of our devices as if anyone of us would have done something differently in her position.

[@whitemamba3085]

Product of her environment.

[@spidaman9249]

I don’t think I’ve ever hear a KZbinr start to choke up while talking about the cases, for that reason I’m subscribing now. I can’t imagine having to research all this while not crying. Props to you for being real and showing your emotions 😭💯

[@TimeWarp777]

Look up rotten mango

[@jenniferallen4420]

Which part did he get choked up on? I must have missed it.

[@TimeWarp777]

​@jenniferallen4420 right after he talks about the baby, when he moves on to the next thing you can hear him strain to control his voice

[@chick-fil-agal2264]

I subscribed to 😢

[@lynnsingh1141]

Wicked family. I hope those girls don’t procreate. What a thing thatcthat daughter said ‘as she watched the killings happen she thought better them than me.’ WOAH. SCARRRY. Keep an eye on THAT one. PLEASE SOMEONE WHO CARES Get in touch with these families and a NY lawyer and file a CLASS ACTION SUIT against anyone and everyone negligent in this case INCLUDING the depraved murderer’s family.

[@spiritthingw]

😢💔to all victims of all mass shootings, those we lost and those whom survived, sending love and prayers. We should never get used to this😢

[@myhumbleopinion1036]

May all the victims that died in this tragedy rest in peace and all the survivors stay strong

[@SKULL-DUGGERY-2]

Not until NRA is dissolved!

[@66Bunn]

Every time I hear about a mass shooting, my mind immediately goes back to this McDonalds and the vision of the BMX bike belonging to one of the 3 friends. I was the same age as those boys (13) when this tragedy happened. I'll never forget that image of the BMX bike laying over on it's side next to the McDonalds entrance. Seeing it on the news at that time is something I'll never forget. How disgustingly sad that we have to STILL go through these senseless killings so many years later.

[@longgone9869]

It is incredibly sad because as human beings we have been killing each other since our creation on this planet. As this planet becomes more crowded you'll see more of it unfortunately

[@tryagainandagain1541]

Some of the most horrific cases of violence comes from places where guns aren’t accessible, many cases shooters have been stopped with a bystander legally carrying. The problem with gun laws is that criminals won’t follow ANY laws let alone ones pertaining to weapons. So in knowing that the only thing gun laws do is prevent people who aren’t criminals from protecting themselves as many do each year. And even worse the government is who wants the gun laws the most meaning Gestapo style stuff occurs right after.

[@longgone9869]

@@tryagainandagain1541 EXACTLY! Do people really believe someone willing to commit murder is worried about gun laws? In 2015 perps drove a box van through a crowd of people in Nice France, killing more than 80, injuring over 400. There will always be other tool for the evil to use Most people don't know that of the 40,000 + gun related deaths in the US every year, over 50% are suicides

[@sandraward6854]

​@tryagainandagain1541 I live in Nevada, open carry is legal. If someone opens fire I am firing back

[@jeanniemarkech351]

Thank you for covering this. Most folks have forgotten it.

[@mikimauski]

I was 13 when it happened and it shook me to the core...I think of this horrible day regularly. It changed me. I also think often about the Tylenol scare when someone poisoned the meds and killed so many. 😭

[@mws755]

I'd never even heard of it

[@tonysae]

Perfectly done video. I remember being 8 in California and stopping at that Mcds on our way back from Tijuana. Our family actually went to that Mcds the week before the shooting. My dad always would tell me, "that could have been us." May the victims Rest In Peace.

[@whydoesgoogleneedmyname6839]

Finally a real documentary channel. Not just some clown talking over cartoon pictures and movie clips discussing the events of that day. This was a very thought out and well put together documentary of this tragedy. This was very well done and very well presented. Thank you for sharing this and for reminding us of the frailty of life and the importance of proper mental health care.

[@Apollo55_]

You say that like this isnt just some other throw away AI true crime channel. Dude got very basic facts wrongs.

[@danieltossounian1962]

@@Apollo55_which ones ?

[@Apollo55_]

@@danieltossounian1962 Well im not gonna watch the video again after a month, but an Uzi is definitely not a rifle, could be automatic given the time frame but definitely not a rifle. And several others i cant quite remember off the top of my head.

[@jenesisjones6706]

@@Apollo55_ So this an AI? I had my suspicions. The disjointed speech style was the first indications. Annoyed that YT isn't announcing AI channels...time to stop using YT.

[@Apollo55_]

@@jenesisjones6706 KZbin has been trash for a long time. A lot of the shorts you see of clips from big content creators are just AI channels scrapping content and putting trash subtitles behind it. I can name several AI true crime channels off the top of my head. KZbin has been probably the worst content site as far unequally enforcing rules, creating new rules to ban people they dont like while letting people they do like say and do whatever the fuck they want. The "Borderline content" rule was created because Stephen Crowder made a video about a vox host or something. KZbin admitted he did absolutely nothing to violate the rules of the website, so they made a new rule that basically says that anything offensive can be banned. As far as AI channels go i know Dr. Crime is an AI channel. Red Tree Stories im pretty sure is AI. True crime jack is so obviously AI its honestly just infuriating. The list goes on and on.

[@Lyeah73]

I have seen the documentary “77 minutes “. In a lot of ways you covered this tragic incident better ! I appreciate all the details that you normally don’t get in crime coverage and I love the emphasis on the victims.

[@dennismohr495]

Also saw it... It was hard to watch the part from the crime scene...may all those people rest in peace

[@warbirdtbf]

The documentary is SOOO graphic. It shows everything.

[@923EON]

@@warbirdtbf The 77 Minutes documentary shows everything and is not blurred out. Its very hard to watch.

[@rasonkk]

RIP TO ALL OF THOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO PASSED AWAY THEY DIDNT DESERVE ANY OF THAT!🙏

[@kitsune220]

Listening to this, my mind immediately went to Uvalde. Unbelievable how history repeats itself

[@earthlingsareinsane7193]

OMG!! The was the early 80s mass shooting were rare. Under Clinton is when it started to rise. Not as many under Bush. However, when the divider Obama became president the amount of killings skyrocketed . In the 80s people weren't taught to hate different races, theu weren't taught that hate the USA, they weren't taught to hate Christianity, they weren't taught to hate to hate straight men, especially straight white men. The country wasn't taught to teach little children about lesbians, gays, transgenders and call everyone who was against it racists and transphobic. DEI, CRT, parents weren't labeled as domestic terrorists, a certain group of people that voted a certain way wasn't called domestic terrorists and the single greatest threat in the USA. Criminals are taught they are victims, another group of people were taught they are victims. Criminals weren't allowed to steal up to $999.00 without consequences. Burning buildings and people? As a crime. Violence , burning, looting, murder were crimes and the law was enforced, lawlessness wasn't everywhere. Other countries, especially terrorists from other countries weren't allowed to protest in the USA and openly chant Death to America without consequences. Foreigners from other countries, especially practicing Islamists weren't allowed to become members of the House of Representatives and putting their hands on the Quran while being sworn in . Sharia Law isn't compatible with USA constitution. I could go on and on. This is what Obama has done to the USA!!

[@Columbiagorgekayaker541]

Well said

[@Kitty-IMVU]

It is strange that they both had the same death count too (I say death count instead of victim only because I feel that those who were injured , and the families of those who died are victims as well).

[@scottw6704]

Odd that you skip forward past so many mass shootings to the Uvalde school one. Why did this remind you of that one and not all the ones in between, do you think?

[@flej01]

R.I.P to all those who lost there lives, my heart goes out to those that survived to relive that day. I can't believe the sheer audacity of his partner trying to sue.

[@crimsoneyes419]

If I was Edna I would be hiding in shame and change my name but the fact that she got a pay out and came on television saying she was going to sue shows what exactly the type of person he was married to. I’m sure she contributed to some of his insanity and didn’t help much.

[@whitedragoness23]

I’m sure she fed into his ego and delusions. She shouldn’t of gotten anything. That money belonged to the victims solely

[@chrisswanson7955]

the suits were dismissed how did she get a payout

[@chrisswanson7955]

ok wrote this before the end i agree she shouldnt of gotten anything

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

my friend/client from a publishing company...who is divorced, told me that Id be stupid and nuts to EVEN BE desperate for a woman.... I beleive that!

[@stephanielong2674]

I seen somewhere that she ended up getting something from the payout from mcdonalds. The person who donated to it said they wanted her to have something to help with the kids because her kids was victims as well. I get that the kids was victims but the wife didn't deserve anything. He told her what he was gonna do. She should have called the cops an told them her husband was losing it took all his guns and said he was going hunting for humans she didn't know where at but gave them the car info an what he looked like. I can't believe she tried to say mcdonalds made him kill so many innocent lives. I wish the families would have sued her tho. They could have sense he was her husband. It was his fault mostly but her fault as she was told what he was gonna go do. She had every responsibility to try and stop it. I can't believe how many ppl think they can sue someone or a business because their spouse did something there. I wish more ppl would sue the spouse or parents of the killer so that way they stop doing shit like that and trying to hurt others all over again.

[@Pewnhound112]

The most infuriating part of the whole story is that law enforcement response has remained pretty much unchanged after nearly 40 years (hence the allusion to Uvalde). There’s always some half-baked reason they contrive as to why they couldn’t confront the perpetrator.

[@bocagoodtimes1460]

Exactly get the f in there!

[@luissolares7007]

Because they are afraid to kill innocent people

[@luissolares7007]

I n situations like this ….if you find an opportunity run out! It seemed to me there were to many people that froze unfortunately…..it sounds like there were opportunities to leave the building for some people in how he kept coming out……

[@SubjectDelta20]

It's always the same for those cowards. "I have to wait for backup, so I don't get shot."

[@whitediver45]

Spoken just like a person that has no experience.

[@merycastro2608]

Extremely touchy . Gracefully done . Great job . This makes you wonder why these incidents still happen today . Rest in peace all those who died that they

[@karingibby2535]

I remember this news story back when it occurred, but I learned so much more with your coverage. You definitely should do more of these tragedies, even though they are disturbing. Excellent work.

[@Jarhead1968]

I was 16, I remember this like it was yesterday. It really was the beginning. We lived in a different world after this.

[@サムソン-s7y]

thank you so much for giving an update on the survivors, it’s rare you see that in these cases and i’m happy how you approach tragedies. thank you ❤

[@brianrobertson1211]

I remember this event too well. Thanks for covering this so that the victims are not forgotten.

[@StillbornGravity]

imagine retiring that day, after 40 years, finally free of work, then get shot.

[@LadyRijuOfTheGerudoTribe]

I know, that’s devastating. My great uncle retired from commercial making after 45 years, he passed away the night of his retirement of a heart attack. It was also the same day as the Sandy Hook shooting, and my mother is an elementary school teacher. I can’t imagine being so proud of your hard work, to end up gone just before you get to live your life free as a reward…

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

@@LadyRijuOfTheGerudoTribea guy I know was lucky enough to do the first big gun crime after sandy hook. I lived in CT and he proceeded to run from the cops for the next 7 years. Look him up Todd Caswell north stonington Ct cow killer. Nobody cares. I did tell the cops where he ran to and they said oh no we have good tips he’s been located in the area recently. That’s why it took 7 years to catch him.

[@burtknighten4438]

Its like every movie ever. He was 3 days from retirement is a cliche. Sucks that it happened irl

[@jonmurphy4889]

That pretty much sums up life right there

[@patrickwayne9074]

Yeah man. I can feel that. I would much rather go when I’m younger and the pressure is on…

[@markwells2514]

I remember that day in 1984 like it was yesterday , I was 21 years old, it was a sad day 🙏

[@toddsmith1617]

Same here.

[@JoyceSandoval-js5me]

Same

[@shamlagovender]

Such a tragic story! You have so much empathy in your delivery and I really needed my tissues. Also your tribute to the victims at the end is endearing, you have a new follower...

[@micadean1600]

They waited an hour and 14 minutes at the Uvalde shooting. That school was full of innocent little children so not much has changed.

[@crimeatoz]

😢

[@Rockoblocko]

I’m sure the Uvalde police thought it was a robbery gone wrong too.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

So many could have lived? So many lives saved? 77 minutes? That is heartbreaking. Uvalde was ANOTHER disgrace on behalf of gutless police. Many of those babies would have lives if the police had done their jobs. I just wish America would wake up that people slaughtered at fast food restaurants and at schools...IS NOT NORMAL. Australia had a mas shooting in 1996 that rocked us to the core. 13 WEEKS later gun reform WAS PASSED INTO LAW.We have not had a stranger on stranger mass shooting in over 27 years... Since the day that law was passed. When New Zealand had their mosque slaughter?? New laws were introduced with 6 days and became law months later.??? Why does America continue this BS?? The Constitution said FA about babies being slaughtered? It says...."a well armed militia'???? USA now has a Navy, Air Force , Marines, Army and a National Guard ....so all the 2nd Amendment quoting is just BS. Don't Americans get bloody tired of burying little children? I am always angry and heartbroken at the same time...every time this happens.

[@Chauna30]

Yeah I noticed that they share the exact same infamous time. There's a doc named 77 minutes about this awful tragedy.

[@Shinuchiha_99]

Nah it was the teachers fault for not securing that side door.. she literally said in an interview: “I thought the door was locked I really did..” you thought? A guesstimate isn’t a definitive decision honey.. I mean yeah none of those sweet babies should have died but I feel like the school should be held more accountable.. sorry but as a teacher you are responsible for those kids.. should the cops have waited for an hour plus.. absolutely not but if that side door would have been pulled SECURELY shut it would have delayed him long enough for all the students to get into their safe places.. and trust me the cops are primarily to blame for the hiked death toll I get that..

[@mrs_ash_ley]

I've never heard of this before, but man is it sad! You did an amazing job on covering this story. Kudos to you for giving the heads up about the content before you watch if it's too much for some. Thank you for highlighting the bravery of those who tried to help also.

[@mariesauers326]

The fact that McDonald’s even considered reopening that location makes me ill and adds so much insult to all of it. The carnage was massive. To think they would be ok with wiping up all that blood and moving on with business and usual is beyond comprehension.

[@handled99]

Get thick skin. Its life. Its not their job to care. It is what it is.

[@Dizzydawne]

@@handled99oh right almost forgot you served us in Nam so you must know what it’s like 👨🏼‍🦳

[@handled99]

@@Dizzydawne you don't need to have "served in nam" to "know what it's like".

[@steelrik]

Well those were other times but at the end they understood

[@kat-of-nine-tales8394]

⁠@@handled99I am truly sorry if you genuinely feel this way

[@okaywow3486]

Thank you so much for going so in depth with each of the victims and giving them a voice.

[@crimeatoz]

❤️ Our pleasure, thank you for watching!

[@lynnsingh1141]

Albert Leos is a beautiful soul. He has no bitterness and decided to become involved in law enforcement later in his life. HE is EXACTLY the kind of individual we want on the job. God bless him ❤🙏🏽

[@Tornado1994]

I corresponded with Wendy Flannigan Cernos via FB in 2015 during the other San Diego massacre . She told me how proud she and the community were of Lt. Alberto Leos for his decision to become a Deputy Sheriff. San Diego is PROUD to have him!

[@kainemak]

Without a doubt, the best true crime channel on KZbin. The details and care they take for each story is exemplary.

[@crimeatoz]

❤️❤️❤️🎉🤗🫂❤️❤️❤️ You made our day!!! Thank you!!!

[@kainemak]

@@crimeatoz my pleasure!! Keep up the great work. I always look forward to you guys dropping a new story. Might I recommend a story? The Lex St massacre as it was called that took place in Philly. Thanks guys. Looking forward to the next one!

[@crimeatoz]

✅ Added it to our queue to see if it's one we can cover! Thanks for the rec, we love them!!!

[@Lulu.Cthulhu]

Uh lol with 50k subs? No. EWU is the best crime channel. He even includes video of the situations he describes rather than random stock footage.

[@kainemak]

@@Lulu.Cthulhu I said what I said. I don't give a fuck about how many subs they have. They're doing a damn fine job.

[@firemanbif]

My father worked with him at B&W Steel in Canton Ohio. Dad was also a welder and worked the same shift as Huberty. I remember when this happened my dad said it didn’t surprise him. He said Huberty was crazy and freaked my dad out all the time, and my dad wasn’t afraid of anything. I remember him saying that he was surprised it took him so long to “crack.” Such a horrible tragedy.

[@isabellegauthier4318]

Your dad could not report this to anyone?

[@jasonhernandez6775]

@@isabellegauthier4318different times stoopid

[@infinidominion]

​@@isabellegauthier4318every one of us has had to work with strange coworkers, we can't just call on anyone, this was also a different era

[@Aarrrow]

​@@isabellegauthier4318 Being angry and suspicious aren't crimes. He hadn't committed a crime at that point.

[@JD-WLKY]

Good thing he wasn't one of the first workplace mass shooters or your Dad may have been his victim!

[@warbirdtbf]

A former coworker of mine (from San Ysidro) was in kindergarten in 1984. On the day of the massacre his mom was taking him to that McDonald's to get ice cream. They reached a police road block blocks from the restaurant and were told to turn back. Later, when they arrived home, his mom discovered what was going on from watching the news on TV. Very tragic. The post office across the street still has some holes caused by the flying bullets.

[@CoopyKat]

The interviews with his wife and daughters after this was so disgusting. They were acting like they were excited to be on TV, not at all upset about what he did.

[@aileenwagner2576]

Yeah and the daughter saying she could see the entire thing from her window and thinking, 'glad it's them instead of me' is sick! The fact she watched and did nothing to help shows she's a few french fries short of a happy meal herself! And awarding the wife any money at all is disgusting!

[@CoopyKat]

@@aileenwagner2576 Yes that is incredibly disgusting. She blows it off because she was 12 at the time. When I was 12, I would never think such a selfish thought "better them than me", which is an incredibly selfish and despicable thing to say or think!

[@claytonbouldin9381]

You can tell by the daughters comments and how the wife acted the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

[@ComeQueto-u2i]

​@@CoopyKatBecause she was raised in a dysfunctional family DUHHHH

[@ComeQueto-u2i]

​@@claytonbouldin9381CHILDREN LEARN WHAT THEY ARE TOUGHT DUHHH

[@p.siadoreyou9050]

I never heard of this until your coverage,thank you for keeping the memories of the victims alive. I grew up in the 80s and was unaware of things like this even being possible. These days it’s a common occurrence,sadly!

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

Where did u live? There were shootings all over the US back then. Crime peaked in 1990. U must been very sheltered?

[@HeatherHenton]

You just hear about it more because social media and technology has changed everything. It's always been a thing.

[@p.siadoreyou9050]

@@Jeff-sp7bg I was born in 77 and grew up in Philly but I definitely was sheltered. My dad didn’t get cable tv until the 90s and I grew up riding horses and building outside forts and bunkers…. Those were the days

[@ericgilbert56]

The fact that NOW something like this could so easily happen again is terrifying.

[@aphoticjellyfish]

Could happen? It DOES happen all the time!!

[@tahneeo57]

In just the 1st 6 months of 2024, there have been 836 mass shootings. And now that the SCOTUS have lifted the ban on bump stocks, it may get worse 😢

[@tahneeo57]

Just in the 1st 6 months of 2024 there have been 225 mass shootings, 318 deaths inc: shooters and 836 wounded. And now SCOTUS have lifted the ban of Bump Stocks, I fear it's only going to get worse😢

[@Taylor-or1kj]

Either way you’re both correct! 🤯😰

[@CALLMESIR...]

It's all about timing and being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[@gemma6515]

OMG This was a hard listen. You did an amazing job with this documentary and naming the victims

[@franjones5312]

I'm from San Diego, and happpened to be leaving a friend's house near the McDonald's at the time of the massacre. I was heading north on I-5 and remember multiple police cars flying south. I tuned to one of the local AM news stations, but they didn't know much yet. One image from reporting I will always remember is the boys' bicycles laying on the sidewalk in front of shot-out doors. That was one of the major photos that was in the newspapers and shown over and over on TV. Kids just riding their bikes, caught up in madness. To say the community was outraged at the prospect of that place reopening is an understatement. That it was even considered was just wrong. No good way to end this post. I'm sad for all involved.

[@Tornado1994]

Omar Hernandez' Mother Irma was so Distraught and Heartbroken, she was placed in Medical Care and Screamed and Wailed for hours over hearing the news. She spoke no english, but everyone understood her Wails of Grief. Huberty Murdered Omar by shooting him in the Chest. Omar was the Boy on the Bike. David's Mother Angelina had to be restrained because she collapsed in pure Grief. David got hit in the Temple. Joshua said he had a Closed Casket funeral because the Flores Family couldn't deal with seeing him in the Casket.

[@franjones5312]

@@Tornado1994 Absolutely heartbreaking.

[@Tornado1994]

@@franjones5312 IKR? My heart still goes out to Hernandez and Flores familes.

[@davidconley6267]

I was in the Navy at the time living in North San Diego and had recently returned from deployment. My roommates and I watched the news all night and sending our prayers. It felt personal to us for some reason. We wouldn't dine in at any restaurant for 8 months fearing a copy cat. I wish the survivors and family of the slain eventually find some remnant of peace. Bless them all for eternity.

[@ADadSupreme]

Same. I went to BEE/IC school there in Dec 83-84, didn't leave until late May due to mother's death. 18 years old and the world opened up REAL fast for me out of HS after this. Going to TJ on the trolley almost every week to Tijuana Tilly's, one of the few times we didn't get on that trolley.

[@lorig7077]

I wouldn't go into restaurants either. I was terrified.

[@mothershelper1981]

I was also in San Diego in this happened. I had just started up a small store in Ocean Beach but I think I was home today this happened because I remember seeing it on television and hearing that the shooter had been shot by a sniper. Those images of the boys lying dead by their bicycles outside the McDonald's still haunt me.

[@robertmoore2049]

I was in Navy boot camp in San Diego when this happened. Being from Dan Diego this was difficult to comprehend…

[@theduchessofkitty4107]

Thank you for doing this. Never knew about that horrible incident until now. May the victims Rest in Peace. May the survivors find healing. And, frankly, we need to do a whole lot more about mental health in this country.

[@lynnca1972]

I'd forgotten all about this. I was 12 when it happened and remember the news coverage of it. I was anxious about going into any restaurant for months afterwards. Thank you for highlighting the victims in this horrible tragedy.

[@MBella123]

Before this video I wasn’t aware of this incident. That’s so sad. I can’t imagine the pain of the survivors, specially the perpetrator’s daughter

[@crimeatoz]

It's so heartbreaking 😢

[@702SinSuper]

The documentary is crazy google it

[@fionnmaccumhaill3257]

I remember when this happened. It was all over the TV. I lived two hours north.

[@MBella123]

@user-sj2zy3rp2p What???

[@Jin-Ro]

@@MBella123 Bot

[@lisaann915]

I don't think I've ever cried from the very beginning to the very end (and afterwards) of a KZbin video until this one and, I've watched thousands of videos. You did a great job with this video.

[@tierracosta4444]

I was 5 years old at the time. My family's house was on West Hall street, about a quarter mile from the McDonald's. One of my brothers was heading there with friends to get some soft serve. When they were a block away everything had already happened. My brother and friends witnessed the aftermath, people being lifted to ambulances and all the drama, screaming

[@TheS197King]

His wife Etna is a disgusting person and IMO could have prevented this whole tragedy but instead she literally watched this man walk out with 3 guns strapped to him after saying he was going to hunt humans and didn't say a word to anyone but instead went out shopping then to get food and ice cream....Absolutely pathetic

[@pran7003]

EXACTLY she should have STOPPED him one way or another

[@LaidBackGolf]

im guessing she was mentally and physically abused, basically trapped at home. idk, id like to know more about their dynamic before making claims that she sucks d

[@annabellelee4535]

The only person to blame is the killer himself. His wife didn't think he was serious. Hindsight is 20/20. Stop the Karen act.

[@pran7003]

@@annabellelee4535 YES WE MUST ALLOW FOR STUPIDITY !

[@annabellelee4535]

@@pran7003 I don't think mass murder is "stupidity", it's more brutality and evil.

[@mariteshilton4454]

I was born and raised in that area of San Diego in the 80's. I must say, your video on this tragedy is the best I've seen. Thank you for your coverage on this. They had tore down and replaced that Mc Donald's with a satellite of the local community college. Looking at it, you would never know what happened there.

[@TheCrazierz]

Same. Happened before I was born but I went to southwestern college with a family friend who was older, and he told me about it when we took a class there. I also heard about it a few times here and there but I never knew how bad it was, I didn't know so many people died or that it was the first major mass shooting in this current wave of shootings

[@carolinematusevich889]

Very well presented. You researched thoroughly. I think what I liked the most was how you acknowledged the forgotten heroes of this tragedy--the ones who sacrificed themselves so another might live. I didn't hear about these details when this happened when I was 14. Thank you.

[@StrawberryCola-np4uu]

Yeah I've seen videos on this dude before but no one ever actually talked about the victims that woman who was torn a part so badly reminded me a bit of the Texas Mall massacre with the Korean couple and their 6 year old son left an orphan terrible

[@TheSixfive407]

No....they just read the Wikipedia. Open the wiki and watch the video. Almost plagiarism.

[@destinythomas5537]

I appreciate how you tell the story and are very engaging. Thank you

[@polynesianmoka89]

I had no knowledge of this devastating case. Thank you very much for a profound retelling of this massacre, and also for maintaining the focus on the victims. So very sad and so many innocent lives taken may they all rest in peace. You have yourself a new sub and keep up the great work.

[@TheSixfive407]

All they did was read the Wikipedia out loud. The equivalent of asking chatgpt to do your homework.

[@Gambit-Lobo]

I asked my uncle about this. He was 12 years old when that happened, and he recalled hearing about it on the Oakland News. I am still stunned to only find out about this 3 years ago. My heart is saddened by that tragedy.

[@claramaddox41]

I was 12 also and have the haunting image of the two kids gunned down with their bikes right beside them.

[@LeticiaSarabia-yb8dm]

@@claramaddox41 Yes, and the third little boy played dead So he Wouldn't be killed. He just laid there in the hot pavement in pain and scared!! Poor little boy!! I'm Glad he Survived!! But he Lost his friends That Awful Day!! 😨😱😞😢😭😭🤦🤷💔🖤🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@Tornado1994]

@@LeticiaSarabia-yb8dm Joshua Rodriguez Coleman is his name. Aurora Pena survived as well.

[@LeticiaSarabia-yb8dm]

@@Tornado1994 I Will Never Forget this Tragedy!! Im So Glad Those 2 kids Survived!! It Was Just So Awful!! 😨😱🤢😞😢😭😭😭🤦🤷💔🖤🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️Sometimes I Drive by San Ysidro and I Pay My Respect!! 🙏😭

[@christinetobin2088]

I just found your channel & really like how you cover these crimes. I am so glad that you honored every person by saying their names.

[@franciscogonzalez64]

Congratulations on your channel. You talk about the cases very professional and respectfully.

[@shannonmcclain2036]

The simple fact this mad man asked for mental help and no one took him seriously is completely astonishing. I was 15 when this happened and knew nothing of it. Thank you for your methodical coverage of this tragedy and the fact you've showed the victim's faces gave this tragedy a true reality. I liked your video and you have a new Subscriber!

[@sparkythesecretsquirrel4013]

I was 14. How the Hell did you not know of this?

[@afa78djd]

​@@sparkythesecretsquirrel4013Kids don't really tend to care about the news. I was a preteen as well and only heard distorted stories about it. Had no one told me I wouldn't have even known. The three most eventful things that year for me were the Summer Olympics in my hometown, my dad buying a Pontiac Trans Am cause he swore he was Michael Knight, and the birth of my baby sister.

[@bsherman8236]

Usually ppl just tell you to "man up", that's what everyone used to tell me

[@SUPERSPAZD]

@@sparkythesecretsquirrel4013 ffs ... relax. 🙄

[@kittykat739]

Only he wasn’t honest about his homicidal thoughts and being in crisis. And that being said, someone determined to do harm cannot be stopped by mental health. Even if he were hospitalized involuntarily, that is only temporary. I believe he was looking for a justification for his actions, “I tried and no one helped me.” Truth is, he didn’t and he acted out of malice.

[@hollymarie6764]

My jaw dropped when the first payment from the victims fund went to the perp’s wife! He told her he was going to”people killing” and she did absolutely nothing. But yet, gets a payout. Fckn infuriating!

[@789genie]

I did the exact same thing. I was shocked

[@pumba1054]

As bad as the 1000's of illegals getting all the benefits they're currently receiving.

[@n_baileyname2698]

I thought the same. She deserved NOTHING!!!! She'd pulled a gun on another woman. Vile creatures.

[@elizabethjerden5758]

People say dumb shit all the time. The way he was looking was likely identical to every time he went to target practice... Like the daughter thought he was doing. She was not her husband.

[@larrysnipes7113]

yep their's sick ass people in this world.

[@yennyku5240]

Lack of police response for 70+ minutes? Where have I heard this story before....

[@VinPerry]

They went to the wrong McDonald's first

[@yennyku5240]

@@VinPerry that didn't take an hour to figure out

[@longgone9869]

If your response to an active shooter event is to call 911 expect to have at least two dozen casualties. Your safety is on you!

[@SA-pj3fz]

@@longgone9869Lmao or we can restrict guns like every other country and not have shootings.

[@bauerj3398]

yennyku5240: Police response was not 70+ minutes. It was a lot shorter than that, unless, of course, you want to redefine response time to fit your agenda.

[@robinalford2186]

The first mass shooting was in 1960 at the University of Texas Tower which killed 15 people and injured 31. The shooter was a former Marine sniper who was abused as a child by his alcoholic father. So if you don't want to make a future serial killer, don't abuse your kids!

[@bloopy6166]

He also had a brain tumor which was discovered after his death, this may have led him to snap

[@kirksmith2051]

That shooting occurred in 1966, not 1960.

[@tdeveritt]

Some people in Austin refer to it as the Charles Whitman tower.

[@scottwilliams8334]

I was 35 when this happened so I was well aware of the story. Even so, I did hear some things that I didn't know about. Thanks for your work.

[@jonnyfavors7585]

I remember hearing about this when I was a kid back in 84, cause my dad was always reluctant for the longest time to take me and my brothers out to any restaurant after hearing of this tragedy.

[@georgegarvey7338]

Crime A to Z ~ You did a fantastic & respectful job on this documentary. I was 19 & lived in the Bay Area when this happened.

[@crimeatoz]

Thank you! ❤️ Me too, I was living in Concord at the time👋🏻

[@georgegarvey7338]

@@crimeatoz You are welcome

[@garyraymer]

Thank you for the video, It makes me very sad to think there are monsters out there, who do not care about anything, there is NO excuse for things like this to happen, RIP to all the victims of this senseless tragedy.

[@mattgilbert5850]

I lived in that area when this happened. I was and still am shaken by the memory of this day. My heart goes out to the survivors and families of all of those that were senselessly murdered.

[@monicaenriquez8643]

What a horror! May the victims who died be resting in peace! May the victims have the comfort of their loved ones!

[@crimeatoz]

🕊️

[@joaquimrodriguez8961]

They are resting in peace! and have been , don't worry.

[@alexcarter2461]

Rip vitamins 💊

[@rjscott6116]

I live right down the street from this very spot, actually across the street from the post office, and I pass the memorial almost daily. It's not even a block away from my home. Rip to the victims.

[@kevincruise3521]

As a 32 year old man that has seen a lot of true crime docs and stories this one is the first one to actually make me cry. It was the baby with the mother that sent me over. Just damn

[@jeffreykress3505]

I was 21 years old when this happened. I remember the shock of it being felt throughout the U.S.A. Even where I live, in the eastern U.S. Mass shootings of this magnitude were unheard of back then. And the fact that this killer even took the lives of children and a baby added to the horror of it all. May all the innocent victims rest in peace.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

Now it is almost an every day event in America? It is just tragic that nothing gets done. It just keeps happening over and over.

[@benhoch9967]

Because we're living in a sick society. Take the guns away and kids will just start bringing knives and illegal guns to school and kill kids. Taking the tools away doesn't solve the problem. The problem is mental health in this country. Our jails are packed with mentally ill, our hospitals are packed with them, our morgues are filled with them from police shooting people during mental breakdowns, our streets are flooded with homeless mentally ill people. How many mentally ill people do we need to see before we all realize its our way of life and society that is causing this mental illness epidemic.

[@chrisparnham]

@@suzyfarnham3165 Why IS nothing being done? It makes no sense to us not living in the US when we have a shooting in the UK it's so rare that it makes headlines for weeks and results in numerous reports with action by authorities always following. It took just one school shooting (Dunblane Primary School in March 1996) to pass major gun control and the following year, Parliament banned private ownership of most handguns, as well as semi-automatic weapons, and required mandatory registration for shotgun owners. There have been no school shootings in the UK since then. We are not alone after similar one-off outrages European countries took similar initiatives.

[@twinnmann]

I was born in Boston in the summer of 84. This is the first time I ever heard about this. Sad in today's day, this is a recurring event now.

[@jessdigs]

@@chrisparnham that's not possible here. After defeating an extremely tyrannical government (England) using private owned firearms, our founding fathers saw fit to make sure no other tyrannical government could take our right to keep and bear arms away. And part of our government (Democrats) just try to take the guns away instead of treating the problem which is mental health. Oddly enough, most mass shootings are committed by long time registered Democrats. It's almost as if Democrats would stop shooting people, gun related violence statistics would go way down.

[@bluebaron6858]

Geez the way you presented this story. Powerful. Rip victims

[@TheSixfive407]

Smh....they are just literally reading the Wikipedia out loud. No original content.

[@KeybladeMaster64]

@@TheSixfive407be quiet

[@generationx9294]

I’m a San Diego native and was 16 years old when this happened. The terror that rippled through our city and the world via multiple news outlets was surreal. I lived less than 15 miles away from the location. Approximately 2 months after the shooting, wrecking balls and bulldozers leveled the McDonalds to the ground as to not be a constant reminder of the tragedy& lives lost. There is a memorial in their honor🕊️

[@ricardoescobar9026]

Theres no memorial just a community college, since it was mostly Mexican that got massacred of course no one would no. No one talks about the two mini vans trying to enter san Ysidro with illegals getting gunned by CBP

[@22lyric]

And the memorial is a constant reminder.

[@Marie.b]

Yeah we know about it being torn down and also about the memorial. It covered both in the video. Didn't you watch it!

[@vjenkins6815]

I am sorry that this evil monster disrupted your community. And if you lost any family in the massacre, my condolences. It's NY Day 2024 and this is the 1st time I've ever heard of this massacre, so forgive my decades late condolences. This was an all around disturbing incident. But the insult to injury was Edna Huberty's profit from the shooting. McDonald's was wrong, excuse me, stupid and disrespectful to victims by giving the Huberty family anything. Not accusing them of complicity, but their family member was the one responsible for the massacre. But McDonald's was smart to demolish that McDonald's. With all of those horrific deaths and trapped souls inside the building, that McDonald's would have been a haunted McDonald's.

[@arcadia-ego2951]

I was 14 and living about 2 miles from the San Ysidro McDonald's when the massacre occurred. My brother and his street rats were out on their bikes that day. Many years later, he admitted he'd been near enough to hear the gunshots. I remember my mom was glued to the news and she was crying so hard. Strange to think how very, very rare mass shootings were then and how many we now have in the US. I remember Cara Knott and the Mercy Road Offramp incident, vividly. Our world is a vastly different place now.

[@kelleyrogers8178]

Thank you for taking the time to identify and talk about each victim. That doesnt happen enough. This is a devastating story. The amount of time taken to get there by LEO makes me sick and makes me think of those babies in Uvalde(i posted this before the end and realized you talked about uvalde). I don't know i never heard of this. I was born in 85 but have reseached so many mass shootings and never knew anything about this one

[@ngafsher]

You all did an excellent job of covering this. I never heard of this but was 13 living in South Central when this happened. I didn't really care about the news back then. This was horrible😢. Glad i didn't know about it till now where I can process this in a better way. This is super heart breaking 💔. Story still needs to be told. 🙏🏿 prayers for all the victims.

[@cpwm17]

A friend at the time was in the group of six that hid in the closet & survived. I called him a few hours later & obviously I was happy he survived. He talked about the guy that was shot in the leg joining them later & hearing the whole thing.

[@Marinaaa96]

does he have knowledge as to how a baby ended up in the closet as it was behind the counter and down some stairs?

[@cpwm17]

@@Marinaaa96 He never said anything about any baby. What I remember from my conversation with him was him mentioning the group discussing what they would do if the gunman opened the door. They received a scare when a policeman arrived in camouflaged clothing because they thought the gunman was dressed the same. They were also working to stop the bleeding of the shooting victim. His friend that was also working there was working behind the counter at the time & managed to escape out the front door receiving a minor bullet wound to the arm.

[@Tornado1994]

@@cpwm17 The Guy Shot in the leg was Albert Hernandez Leos, who's now a Deputy Sheriff in San Diego. Do you know Wendy Flannigan Cernos BTW?(She was there, she was also in the Closet hiding.)

[@cpwm17]

@@Tornado1994 No, I don't know them. It was a friend named Ken Dicky that hid in the closet with them. He had only been working at McDonalds for a couple weeks at the time. I think he lives in Idaho teaching high school chemistry & college philosophy, or at least did. I haven't had contact with him in decades. I was only slightly acquainted with one other person there & he ran out the front door with a minor gunshot arm injury. It's good that Albert Hernandez Leos fully recovered

[@feralcatguy5980]

RESPECTS! I was a teen living in San Diego at the time. Not that close to the location, but the fact someone could go someplace and just kill a group of people just for the sake of doing it, rocked me to my core. Even today, I shed a tear when I think about the event. Thank you for making this film.

[@jonathanmosher72]

This shooting kind of changed my youth. I was 9 when it happened and remember being fearful of going to McDonald's. There was a McDonald's close to my house. I remember walking around it making sure it was safe before going in. About 3 years later at that McDonald's a guy robbed the place. On his way out, for no reason, shot a guy in the head who was just sitting there eating. The guy ran and dropped all the money he stole all over the parking lot.

[@frogeedogeee8333]

I have never heard of this case! Thank you for covering it!