The SHOCKING TRUTH About Xenoblade 3's City

[@Zek3nator]

Zeke’s bloodline is unlikely to impact the bloodline given the separation between lefteria and tantal. Monica, Vandam and Gondor really don’t resemble their ancestry, given they have Nia’s specific bloodline. I think they introduced enough outside blood to prevent degradation. That being said, Rex is the king, he needs a royal bloodline.

[@joelsasmad]

I'd say Monica, Vandam, and Gondor resemble Rex if anybody.

[@aliastheabnormal]

Does that make Shulk the pope? I mean he is the son of Klaus who is essentially the old god of Aionos and Alviss boyfriend.

[@matthewdunaway7622]

Also of note is in the 1000 years between Future Redeemed and base Xenoblade3 the city was rescuing soldiers by grabbing them while they were still in pods instead of destroying their respective colony flameclock. On that note they were also keeping them in the cradles instead of releasing them so some of the pod/cradle clusters we see in the city may be hundreds of years old. One more thing to consider is that the city people have a derogatory term for someone who can’t trace their lineage to one of the six houses which is common for people who are usually in a minority (in this case minority meaning small number of people)

[@corrinflakes9659]

What was the derogatory term for houseless Cityfolk?

[@matthewdunaway7622]

@@corrinflakes9659 houseless it was only mentioned in the dlc hero quest for Masha

[@corrinflakes9659]

@@matthewdunaway7622 thank you

[@jonglejuice]

Imo, we also can’t automatically assume that houseless people are the minority tbh (though I agree with you that they probably are). They could even be the majority. We have real life examples of minority populations ruling over majority populations and coining derogatory terms for them such as during apartheid era South Africa, etc. I’m not saying the city is like apartheid ZA, I’m just saying that it’s within the realm of possibilities that the “houseless” make up a large part of the population and that could lessen the chance of potential inbreeding.

[@taplay5383]

Glad to see my membership is supporting this kind of content.

[@XenoBits]

I live to serve my channel members

[@funnynameforme4091]

There’s an even funnier theory that Glimmers house and Nikols house were once one before splitting due to some conflict. Which would mean that Rex would be related to FIVE of the six houses.

[@Raelhorn]

Well, I have to throw in some mitigating details here: 1. Before the events of FR, the old City routinely brought in soldiers who would be "fresh blood". Every time those soldiers had offspring, even if it wasn't all of them, they'd be adding to the genetic stock of the City. We more or less have to assume this practice continued after the events of FR until the City got a self-sustaining population. And to remove complications, let's just assume that nearly all of the soldiers added to the City's population reach Homecoming and can't be reborn later (Noah & Mio are known exceptions); so no further muddying up the gene pool by repeat entries. It's arguable this practice ended well before the events of XC3, but there's no reason to doubt it continued after FR until they were a stable population; it's also plausible that Y figuring out how to make Ouroboros-proof Flame Clocks (though he never managed Monado-proof, or whatever we want to call them) could have put a stop to it. On a small note, the old City could add new soldiers to their population without an obvious way to break Flame Clocks like Shulk's & Rex' weapons; Riku also kept Lucky Seven to himself. 2. There are "Houseless", those who can't trace their origins back to any particular House in the City. It's not clear if they outnumber those who belong to the City's Houses or not. They just might, and those of the Houses may be more like an aristocracy. Alternatively, apart from a central line of descendants, the Houses could be more like a "clan" and include all the subjects/vassals/others of the leading families; still fair to say there's no proof of that being the case. 3. Something I found in a bit random NPC banter (one Agnus Castle NPC on the docks after getting some freed prisoners back to the City), but apparently the City has more people than *Agnus* (as in all of the Colonies added up, though you could argue that's just the number of "active" soldiers in Agnus) based on the amount of food being shipped over. If I recall correctly, Ghondor Jr. implies there's roughly a thousand City prisoners at Agnus Castle; this is also sizable chunk of the City's population, as them coming back causes some disruptions simply because population spiked. This appears to be "video game logic" where the numbers shown in game are limited because of technology rather than an accurate representation of the number of people. There's a fair few factors to consider here which could easily mitigate the issue... but yeah, no denying that a lot of it is speculative. The City probably isn't "huge", but could be argued to be several thousand people; they probably had a relatively steady population (I'm guessing ~5,000) after reaching a manageable level that could sustain itself. Still, the best answer is that hopefully the City made a point of at last adding a few new soldiers to the gene pool every so often.

[@ag9953]

Indeed, I'd also like to add to the first point by saying that altough by the time of the base game Monica expresses a displeasure for awakening rescued soldiers, feeling like the City would be taking advantage of them, no such feeling was ever expressed by the Liberators or the original Citizens, nor is there really any objection to taking in freed soldiers who are already alive, and in fact the City ends up taking in both Colony 15 and Ethel and Cammuravi during the events of the game.

[@Rizky-Gumilar]

Sad people keep hating this series just because they're Nintendo exclusives and dont have modern graphics like ps games.

[@mariosonic987pac-hero4]

It is unfortunate. I feel that graphics now and days just feel like people are more into that rather than the quality of the game. I've seen plenty of games where graphics are the best, everything else, not so great. Xenoblade Chronicles series continues to tell me that graphics aren't everything. There's more to the gameplay and story than graphics alone. Heck, I even dare say that those games look WAY better than those hyper realistic graphics. You're not alone on that.

[@Rizky-Gumilar]

​@mariosonic987pac-hero4 I hate to say this, but Nintendo is dying soon. Their tech is too outdated and most gamers worldwide prefer playing modern mature games with hyper realistic graphics nowadays.

[@emerylsg]

no, I think people keep hating this series because of the exclusivity and the fact that xenoblade chronicles is a very hard series to get into. your average gamer is gonna have one hell of a time trying to master the battle system and all of its complicated mechanics, it probably feels very underwhelming, ESPECIALLY with 2 & 3. 1 was simple but I didn't truly understand 2's battle system until 60-70 hours in and about 30-40 hours for 3. the series is one of the most beautiful games on switch.

[@mariosonic987pac-hero4]

@@Rizky-Gumilar Even so, I'll still play Nintendo games no matter what. They may have outdated tech but their games still show a lot of quality that most modern games forget to show. I will be honest, some modern games with hyper realistic graphics are good (like Resident Evil 2 and 4 Remakes) but most of them feel like they missed the mark of being good games (like Final Fantasy 7 Remake & Rebirth).

[@Rizky-Gumilar]

@@emerylsg they hate Nintendo exclusives but how come people love ps exclusives? Look at games on ps they always win goty and beloved by the masses

[@Carito-000]

I dont want to think anymore........

[@gabriel2gg2ninja90]

Yeah, same.

[@llphillipll]

There were other people in the city though, right? Like Dylan and Matthew's other friends. Probably enough to prevent too many uhh crossovers from happening. Great vid!

[@XenoBits]

There are other people but I don't think there's enough to offset the problem.

[@Nelsito99]

​@@XenoBitsthe city was taking in freed soldiers so new blood was being added note that they never open the rebirth pods but were fine letting colony 15 enter the city (with a few bumps) even if temporary were fine with teaching how kids are made if they chose to stay

[@aylinilya.]

you can also take into account that soldiers from keves and agnus were being rescued from the city for a while so that could easily be over 500 people

[@ag9953]

The people of the City all ended up with some degree of Ouroboros blood, but they're not descended from only 6 people, Future Redeemed shows a lot of survivors from the Liberators, the original City (All of whom seemed to be "clockless", as Panacea referred to them) and the previously freed socliders (Also clockless) built the second City, and there's plenty of NPCs in the main game City that do not correspond to any specific house. Anyone born from a clockless is also clockless, so while ultimately a thousand years of intermixing would result in most people having at least some genes of the original founders, a majority would not be descended directly from them and would still be clockless.

[@LibertarianTerriermon]

Rex is an Alabama Man

[@xavierlynch1088]

Hey its not like rex himself did the home sweet.

[@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532]

*OH BOY WAIT TILL YOU SEE 3! HAHAHAHAHAHA!*

[@HaywoodStudiosOfficial]

I'm aware of what day it is.

[@Tracks2008]

You act as if this info is surprising. It really isn't all that surprising.

[@reeseseater12]

It does depend on how many kids couples have, and how well they preached to stay away from their siblings/cousins/ect…. I was gonna bring up the Vandmans left but you did eventually get to it. As long as they’re not too close to partners I think they should be fine. Probably best to not think too much, but by the time of XC3 every member of the city probably is distantly related to every other one at the very least

[@timmy-pz7if]

Ignoring all the moral issues we have with it, I think there could be some interesting things going on here. Ignoring if this was actually planned, but all the people the come from alrest are descendent from the genetic material that Klaus returned to the world. These genetics could be constructed in a way to prevent the dangourus effects of inbreeding. IIRC the issues with inbreeding happen from recessive traits that become expressed since the children will get multiple copies of that gene. So if those "bad" genes just don't exist within the agnian population (Rex), then there would not be any physical issues with it. The wiki page for inbreeding says it's not uncommon in animals, and with scifi magic, maybe core crystals can make up for any genetic issues that would arise

[@louctendo1321]

thats an interesting theory

[@BurstFlare]

Is now a good time to mention that the Xeno1 colonies (and actually probably Bionis as a whole) definitely did not have at least 500 people? I doubt the Xeno2 cities did, either.

[@funnynameforme4091]

That would pertain to most cities in almost any games

[@warrockenjoyer2170]

Ey, it was only Rex that triple dipped, blame his kids for gettin crazy

[@eddiec9756]

Yeah, I remember looking at a family tree of everyone in the Klaus Saga, and the Tornan Royal family is related to like half of the named characters in Xenoblade 3. It would make for a funny AI-generated voice video where everyone realizes they are all family.

[@ShadowEclipex]

Guess that's a good reason why they kept recruiting Kevesians and Agnians who broke free from their flame clocks. This would probably help keep the genetic diversity up enough to avoid any genetic deformaties.

[@lpfan4491]

People who descend from nobility or royalty in reality:"You don't say, I would have never guessed." On the topic of the City, I still find it interessting how they never gave Na'el an official last name in FR. We have the name of the family she came from and the name of the house she would herself found, but we have no data if she ever went by either name in her lifetime, she's just Na'el.

[@Nelsito99]

We don't know if marriage has the couple take on the male's last name or both with possible exception to royal family like melia's last name

[@jacaerys4]

Rex is essentially Charlamagne but way worse since I doubt the City’s population is as big as Europe’s lmao

[@j.r.1704]

Klaus was trying to create a universe without Alabama only to end up with the chad Rex 🙂

[@Xeno_Des]

GOOD MORNING DIRK NATION

[@Thorcarmine]

When it comes to recorded incest in history we have the Egypt royals were known to practice it because they wanted to keep their blood line pure. There's also a family who did so much incest that their skin turned blue. The really interesting one are clans, I'm only bringing this one up because I'm a decedent of Clan Campbell on my mothers side, I'm half Scottish and half German so I like to make the joke I'm a German scotch.

[@williamstokes4282]

Alrest had the exact same problem if you don't think of the City or Alrest you see in game as an abstraction of how they are meant to be. The populations of Alrest and the City are likely meant to be higher than is shown in game making it likely that neither actually is in the bottom end of that minimum population range. Alrest however has one massive advantage in that Blades are present to introduce new genetic information when needed.

[@xavierlynch1088]

The populations of bionis were also quite small

[@dachking6657]

Was Z just sitting there waiting for the effects to start wearing the City down, then?

[@goatslayer3160]

He was putting that big screen to use...

[@dachking6657]

@@goatslayer3160 Aw hell nah Z is failing that Rice Purity test

[@Technovore-X]

I love how with the Trinity Processors. You get a muddled family tree. Red is Married to Nia, Mythra and Pyra. 2 kids are Glimmer and Mio. His descendants are Ghondor Senior, Matthew and Nael. His in laws are technically Malos and Alvis/A. Linka is Rex’s niece, and possible Sena if she’s related to Brigid. And Lastly Noah is Rex’s Son in lay. So if you include rex and Sena as a Niece, 4/6 of the future redeemed team, minus A, and 3/6 of the base team is related to Rex somehow

[@Dnetwork007]

4:35 he really showed us a thing or three 😅😅😅

[@HunchbackOfNotreJon]

My hot take is that Glimmer is the only baby confirmed to be biologically related to Rex. Agnian genetics combine colors of hair and eyes. It just so happens that the only one with both parents clearly referenced verbally, not merely alluded to via a photo, is also the only one that matches every other example of a child with confirmed parents: Glimmer. Kevesi look like their parent of the corresponding sex. Agnians combine colors. You can test this by looking at each child with confirmed parents. I do not take the photo as gospel when they have yet to directly address it. I take what has been stated in-game. Mio and the blond baby fail this test. Rex can act as a paternal figure as suggested within the photo and still not be blood related. Mio may be related to Nia, but her features do not reflect Rex as the father. I'd argue Rex acting as an adoptive father or a guardian (temporary or permanent) to a companion's kid is much, much more in character. Also, less incest.

[@xavierlynch1088]

DIRK NATION!❤❤

[@catalyst539]

Mythra kid ain’t Dirk, artbook confirmed it i think (and yes, ik that theory is kinda a joke by now)

[@reef-lux450]

Nothing was confirmed/deconfirmed and the concept art of him people were trying to use to “debunk” it was a rejected design by Takahashi and means nothing in the long run + concept art isn’t even canon. Get ready for round 2!

[@catalyst539]

@@reef-lux450 Great to hear, Junpei Iori of the Specialised Extracurricular Execution Squad, also known as SEES for short. I’m also on the Dirk train. I am happy to hear I was wrong.

[@reef-lux450]

@@catalyst539 he’s da man, definitely the goat fr And I am too for the memes + it’s interesting lol. The identity of Mythra’s child still remains unsolved so Dirk possibly lives onto Xenoblade 4!

[@NimbleFire]

Bro i remember leaving comments about this everywhere when i heard who rex’s kids are

[@kurenian]

DIRK NATION

[@frostycane5134]

This game left me with a lot of questions and this was not one I thought until this video. They are definitely in breed to an extent , I didn’t even think about the defectors returning multiple times. Good thing it’s all bad dream right Rex? Right Rex?!

[@adrain2251]

If they ever bring mathew and nael back in any format in future instalations they can just either keep the family tree the way it is or instead of making gohndore there grandfather we can make gohndore there father so they theoretically would be able to interact with there great grand parents(rex, Nia, Pyra, Mythra) and grand parents including their aunt (Glimer). Since there actual parents are unknown or nobody for all we know

[@aliastheabnormal]

I always thought that most of the people in Aionos were offscreen to save on system memory. It's the Switch after all. And who's to say that genetic defects even exist in Aionios. Moebius has considerable cloning tech. Enough to maintain genetic material intact for millenia and splice together multiple species in a stable way. They probably have a way to avoid the side effects of inbreeding because they know that there will be defectors like N and Shania. And because its more fun that way.

[@reef-lux450]

What the spark is Recks doing? Is he stupid??

[@joedanrob]

Rex just couldnt keep it in his pants huh

[@SatiZakito]

This is the origin of life after All so it's all A-0K in my books.

[@ragingstorm_]

i she ate thought it was funny how related rex is to Mathew and naael and it’s just not brought up. like those are your direct grandkids rex 😂

[@goofusmaximus1482]

@@ragingstorm_ his great great grandchildren.

[@SuperProgFrog]

Wasn’t Rex’s family outsiders to Fonset? I always thought Rex was able to enter Adam’s temple because of some type of magic honorary system instead of being actually being blood related. Like, you don’t have to be related to Adam to try. You could’ve just grown up or been born into Fonset and you’d be considered worthy. Idk maybe Rex is a descendant of people from Torna but not Adam directly.

[@ketzer7652]

This was one of those things that I just chose not to think about when playing, lol.

[@lulute8]

I don't think this is any real problem , genetic imprit don't last long in the generations after 5 generations the descendents would have less than 10% of their ancestors genes , this point is not incest anymore (also technicly cousins is not considere incest) this would also be further suported by the fact of the different races living on the city making the genetic a lot more diversy

[@icecreamorc]

If only this video came out a day sooner.

[@blakerenimu9033]

Rex is the Genghis Khan of Aionios, eh?

[@Camnose]

Good moooooooorning dirk nation!

[@Yoshiedude]

Ok 10/10 bart was indeed mentioned

[@yourtrubers1728]

I'm not on the Dirk train. 😅

[@vivid8979]

In breeding isn't an issue if you're full of beans tho.

[@asprinjuice425]

this is your worst thumbnail of all time, quality content happy april fools

[@MandoMahri]

Something else that is kinda strange about the city and disappointing to me personally, is that the city is all pretty much regular humans with none of the fantasy race elements, you'd think there'd be some right?

[@gatst7680]

Honestly to me, it makes sense Not only does it give them a unique feel in comparison to the rest of Aionios, but over the course of 1,000+ years of things, it would make sense for them to blend together and become less "unique" in comparison to the rest of Aionios, they are normal people after all

[@MandoMahri]

@@gatst7680 I get that, but I'm not a big fan of it tbh Sure they're unique, but they could be more unique if they had cool mixes of the different races from both worlds, and to me, just a bunch of normal humans felt bland

[@grantabeyta9054]

A very typical anime trope

[@fireembliam9090]

Mythra Son have to wear black clothes because Pyra Daughter wears white clothes.

[@Tracks2008]

Not surprising when you consider all things. Though quite disgusting to say the least.

[@LibertarianTerriermon]

So basically the City is Alabama

[@catalyst539]

no the entirety of aionios is alabama and the city is the main residence in alabama

[@Tharja-iBW]

Whole Rex is likely related to Addam and Zeke his brother, Addam was actually adopted into the family, this is why Zepper disliked Addam because he wasn't of royal blood yet the king saw Addam as worthy of the throne. So this means you have 2 huge ass families joining the ranks of the city from two different sides of the same dynasty.

[@XenoBits]

Addam is the bastard son of the Tornan King. He was not adopted.

[@gablink5190]

Still not as bad as what happned to cheetahs

[@Axecon1]

The problem gets even worse if you ship Glimmer and Nikol

[@aylinilya.]

pretty sure they don’t end up together, it’s never eluded to that they do. they only seem to be good friends. i hate how if a man and woman are close that automatically means they’re romantic for each other

[@Axecon1]

@@aylinilya. Yeah, I don't consider them a canon ship since they each are founders of different houses. But it is interesting to fantasize that Rex & Shulk's lineage might have gotten together.

[@neonblackbeast7243]

Dirk deniers will stay denying (No u cant say the artbook deconfirmed it cos its a scrapped design at the end of the day)🙃

[@doubledee88]

The city is basically Iceland. It's so bad that Icelanders use an app to avoid dating cousins.

[@goatslayer3160]

So you're saying I have a chance over there? 👀

[@yourtrubers1728]

Rex just be out there repopulation the planet 🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇

[@RaginiSR]

I had the idea that mythras kid was Alexandria

[@TerrellBragg-ql3jy]

Great shitpost I love it

[@MultiUniverseVideo]

WHAT A FUCK IS THAT ? (just tell that before watch your video)

[@MakoTenseii]

It wasnt his fault!

[@TheMaiztro]

Peak content

[@daniellobo8813]

While the teory sounds good and all. I think ot doesnt apply to xenoblade. Just because its said that life in general was remade. Not following the normal. Xeno1 people are spawns of a giant beings both biological and mechanical. Xeno2 people were made from the ground up from new elements, no dna, the resemble crystals more. And this is explained in game. So xeno 3 people are not even people, but echoes? Simulations? Of the people of the other 2. While the studies apply to us, there is no reason to apply them to a fictional universe that also says that its people are different at a fundamental biological level than us. Of course, the mental damage is done, to us, but in universe it just doesnt apply.

[@kira516]

💀

[@sven3413]

No way bro found out about biology. So transphobic.