The Sig P210 Carry

[@dougr5379]

Finally was able to locate and purchase the P210 carry today. I own several of the swiss P210s and the american target and standard versions. Quick trip to the range and wow does this gun shoot. No problem hitting coke cans every time at 50 yards. No malfunctions with several bullet types and weights. Overall quality, ergonomics and shoot-ability are off the chart. Finish (exterior and interior is perfect with no flaws or machining marks. Black frame finish seems to be nicely done. I've had the standard P210 in my carry rotation for some time now and it is stock except I've changed the factory fixed sights out for Tritium sights. I could not tell any difference in the inherent accuracy between the standard and the carry versions. The P210 carry is pricey, but worth it if you prize extreme quality and accuracy. Lots of comments in this video and many others out there that lament how if this pistol was only made with a double stack magazine or if this pistol only had a pic rail or if this pistol only had a slide cut for optics, etc., they would buy it. If it had any of these things, it would not be a P210. Sig would give it another model designation. There are literally hundreds of other makes and models of other pistols with slide cuts, double stack magazines, and pic rails out there for those that want or need that. Sig makes a P365 if you want/need those things. The P210 line of pistols fill a niche handgun category which is not for everybody. While I don't EDC the P210 Carry, there are times I likely will same as with my other "Tuxedo" pistols.

[@АлександрНиколаев-щ4у]

Beautiful curved trigger. Beautiful gun itself....no lights , no RDOs, no laser's! Perfect!

[@davidgcalderone]

A carry gun worthy of tuxedo wear. Love the P210 standard as well.

[@gregcampwriter]

I am grateful to CZ for taking major elements of this design and making an affordable pistol.

[@jeremypike9153]

Considering that the controls of the gun changed to the CZ controls. I would say Sig owners should be thanking CZ for the improvements Sig came up with.

[@Serenityindailylife]

I was a Biathlon skier at a competition in Switzerland when i saw and shot my first one. I had permission from my school district to go to the competition and was supposed to go to the olympics. I told the military police officer that let me shoot it in 1987 that i would love to buy one to carry. I was given one by my grandfather and loved it. He had to pull lots of strings to get one. He was a Senator and my dad was an ambassador. My dad was at an embassy in Africa (im not saying which country) and they gifted him a sphinx and my dad inquired about a sig. When he left his posting and went home for vacation he brought his sphinx and a shiny new sig. He and I took them to the range alot and they were hard to get extra magazines for. I joined the military and was issued an m11 which i carried but always loved my sig 210. I just bought a p210 custom carry (Engraved) and carry it now. Sig may have changed it a bit but they fulfilled my dream of carrying one. I love it and plan on buying a plain carry model. I will carry the custom at open carry barbecues and family occasions.

[@MisterTengu]

Return of the "no drop sig" meme

[@michaelhatfield3430]

I'm lucky to own 3 and sometimes carry one in winter in a shoulder holster. I have two in 9mm and one in 30 Luger. They are ultra accurate. I fired 3 mags into a group I could cover with my hand at 100 yards.

[@brentlakin]

What shoulder holster do you use for your P210 carry?

[@Canes-kh5bq]

I think thos is the most beautiful hand gun made in years.

[@steven3379]

I would love to see a comparison with this and the Beretta 92x Compact/Centurion..please!

[@mtm7014]

Never heard about the advantages of the flat recoil spring - thx.

[@garykappes4654]

Cool! I just fired my new 210 Carry today. $1300 a year ago??? I wish....but it is a great pistol And after only 45 rounds of my cheap lead bullet reloads I am in love! This really is gun gun for people that can appreciate great craftsmanship...but saying that I have gotten some pistols from SIG bought new that had multiple problems and had to go back to the factory.....custom shop guns none the less. To their credit they did fix them.

[@skookapalooza2016]

Beautiful piece!

[@Jose-bc6me2316]

Thank you very much for the thorough review. Based on your chrome lined barrel comment, I recall SIG had a P226 Combat& P229 Combat. Not sure they were actually Govt issue, but came in FDE and with chrome lined barrels as well.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

I have a 9x19mm 1911 that is by far the most accurate pistol I own. Since mine is a mid tier 1911, I can only imagine how accurate this 210 must be.

[@philipbuckler1473]

Really nice handgun---could go in your collection just as a range shooter.

[@gregggruse2522]

I own the P210 standard and the P210 carry and they are both fine examples of American craftsmanship. I would give the P210 standard the nod as far as smoothness of the slide but both are excellent and the Carry will get better when fired as much as the standard. My examples are both great shooters and I would recommend either. These pistols aren’t for everyone but before you pass judgement shoot them and you’ll see and feel the quality.

[@stever8776]

Thanks for the Video. The current race by manufacturers is to make the smallest 9mm with highest capacity. I'm old school and prefer a Colt Commander or CCO. This looks like a fine pistol that fits my style. Hits count! As said 'You can't miss fast enough in a gun fight' I like my Sig 210 Target. I will have to add this one to the list. Cheers

[@LuvBorderCollies]

Lightweight Commander = ideal CCW auto;; heavyweight Commander = NO

[@seumasnatuaighe]

I shot the Danish P210 Neuhausen pistol in the 1980s. It was a good precision/target pistol but not much of a last ditch weapon because of its capacity.

[@ronpopiel2570]

Chris, you stated this pistol has no firing pin block safety but it certainly does. It's visible at 7:07 on the bottom of the slide. It's the same design Sig used on the revised P320, a blade type at the rear of the slide which is pushed up by a lobe on the trigger bar, rather than the Glock plunger type at the front we're used to seeing.

[@dougr5379]

Correct. Colter Brog put out a video on a P-210 slide disassembly which obviously includes the firing pin block parts detail.

[@mulder4528]

Nice video review, as you say a great option when circumstances limit your capacity.

[@bfairfax8772]

I own an original one from 1965 it’s a fantastic gun though it’s also a very expensive gun to carry. So this is the next addition to my Sig collection for sure. Its not cheap either though it’s not anywhere near an original in even good condition .

[@10bears]

Great information thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I was wondering could you fit the 210 carry slide on the 210 standard frame? Wouldn't function? Thank you

[@msims1250]

Thanks for the review. I really want one of these.

[@sanangelo7926]

Keep up the great reviews

[@tigerman3]

Nice pistol and great presentation (as always) Chris!

[@blacklisted4885]

love how rounded off it is

[@marioallen6380]

Best gun pro on KZbin 💎

[@andrewpinheiro7202]

I would love to have an old sig 210 this one no thanks I appreciate it and where it came from but not for me

[@brentsauer]

Good looking pistol. Interesting that it is single action. Thanks for the video.

[@BrennerBay]

Thanks for the review, have a happy 4th of July!

[@Jarrow13]

I love this pistol. The deal breaker for me on this, is as a left hander this is not for me.

[@amazed2341]

Visually it reminds me of the old b76 pistols

[@scottsmith4710]

Chris, great review buddy!👍

[@MrSLF]

Thank you. 👍

[@АлександрНиколаев-щ4у]

What about 16 round Shield magazine?!)

[@Sam-et3bv]

Great video. Now I definitely want one.

[@CAStone-kq4md]

Tight fitting . Is it reliable as a combat gun ?

[@KENAHIGHLANDER]

Great review!

[@chrisragone8785]

Great review as always

[@tylermonster6044]

When the constitution was written, and long afterwards there was not any gun licenses anywhere in United States. There is no mention of people being confined to the State they live in order to carry a firearm, and everyone at that time brought their firearm everywhere they wanted to go including across state lines. Because the Supreme Court text and history is to be used, any legal citizen of the United States should be allowed to carry their firearm anywhere in the United States without a license or permit. Constitutional carry should be the law of the land.

[@polaritypictures]

do a poly80 before you can't anymore. if they made it with a double stack it'll surprise everyone. They could easily mod it in cad and send it to the cnc.

[@wesleyhobbs9]

I have a question, did you experience the chambering issue that a lot of people have experienced with these American versions? When you load the mag with eight bullets and you try to chamber a round, the Seventh bullet in the magazine flops out of the magazine and falls down the mag well almost every time. A lot of people experience this did you have this issue?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

I had no failures

[@wesleyhobbs9]

@@SmallArmsSolutions thank you for the reply back in the information. Were you even aware of the issue? I’m just wondering if it was certain ones? There are definitely some videos online about it. I had the same issue with the P210 standard as well except not every single time. Maybe the magazines need broke in?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

I had tested both this and the carry. None experienced any failures

[@hectorflores1544]

where can I find your video on the m855a1 round? also can you talk about a rifle build you would put together to handle m855a1 under an modern war setting where logistics are most likely to be cut of by modern forces; hence making an infantry unit's ability to swap parts less frequent as they would against a less developed enemy.

[@scottsmith4710]

Chris, I am glad Sig gave you one for your own for reviewing the pistol for us. With this great review I am sure that they are going to sell a lot of them. Great shooting too.👍

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

They loaned it to me, I send them back

[@scottsmith4710]

@@SmallArmsSolutions , Haha, I didn’t think Sig was that tight, after all look at all the free advertisement and pistols you end up selling for them. At least you got to enjoy it a little bit.👍

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

@@scottsmith4710 very few manufacturers give out free products. Contrary to popular belief.

[@Elvis68spec]

Very informative video!

[@neverobey1477]

Sexiest pistol ever made!

[@steveharvey6421]

James Bond should carry this

[@craigbenz4835]

Sweet pistol. Is there any way to adjust elevation, or replacement sights with different heights?

[@onkelmicke9670]

Really nice

[@hk45c62]

Does SIG plan on doing a picatinny rail version?

[@robfox6103]

super expensive but feels very nice

[@clydester2677]

No rail, and only a 8 round mag? What the hell are they thinking?

[@LifeStyle-uh1ns]

I wish SIG would make a P210 which would take P226 magazines. 15-20 rnds and I would buy the $$$$ out of that sku. #IDPA competition monster.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

That would defeat the purpose!

[@LifeStyle-uh1ns]

@@SmallArmsSolutions I think I disagree. Lots of double stack 1911/2011s around too. And arguably the 210 is a far better gun.

[@jaimeroman2406]

I’m getting one.

[@Richard-wz9uh]

Make it double stack and put a light rail on it and you just might have the finest pistol ever made. As of now that title goes to the WC SFX-9.

[@GTFBITK]

Sounds like you want a custom CZ.

[@LethalMayo]

It reminds me of my glock 48 but that one looks better. I want a 1911 style

[@poetwp975]

I have a question I’ve been wondering about, perhaps some one in the comments can fill me in. On a single action auto loading pistol like that sig or a 70 series 1911, that doesn’t have a drop safe block, will it fire if dropped while cocked and locked. Or does it only fire when dropped cocked with the safety in off position.

[@morgan3688]

When the drop occurs in certain orientations, regardless of saftey position. If you drop it witu the barrel pointing down, the movement of the body stops, but the firing pin has intertia that carries through. This can cause enough of an impact to the primer to cause an accidental discharge.

[@poetwp975]

Thanks for the info. 👍🏻

[@LuvBorderCollies]

A Series 70 1911 still has the grip safety. Any rate if the thumb safety is engaged it shouldn't fire. Also the firing pin is spring loaded so the pin doesn't tap the primer from inertia when dropped. It was designed for troops so its got safety built into it.

[@morgan3688]

@@LuvBorderCollies Yes because every modern combat handgun implemented firing pin blocks for a completely non-existent issue. Accepting the risks of the design so as to not compromise trigger pull, complexity, and repliability is perfectly valid. Denying the riskes exist is asinine.

[@georgewashington7312]

I hate to be that guy...but...it needs at least 1 picatinny slot...

[@L3GN5RW9]

Yes

[@Emily-ou6lq]

Maybe

[@HousePlusRealty]

So.

[@deniskozlowski9370]

I agree but honestly, 95 percent of these will never be carried. They'll be safe queens or range toys.

[@KossoffFan]

Thats like putting a floyd rose tremolo system on a Gibson Les Paul. It's just wrong, goddamnit.

[@FoulPet]

Trigger weight, reset, travel, ect...

[@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray]

If only it had 15 rounds

[@BelialsGenuflect]

Bro the new p210's are nowhere near as smooth as the originals.

[@LuvBorderCollies]

That seems like a law of nature or mechanics. The vintage High Standard target .22 autos are works of craftsmanship inside and out and on the target. The later ones ..... not close. IIRC the later ones were stainless and that is a royal PITA to work with. So that likely accounted for much of the difference.

[@ScreechingPossum]

Love how a quarter of the comments are like "If this was a completely different gun, it'd be great!"

[@KossoffFan]

I know, as if people haven't been carrying and using handguns without lights on them for centuries lol.

[@LuvBorderCollies]

@@KossoffFan Its amazing how mankind survived without picatinny rails with a laser and flashlight hanging on it.

[@coreymoyers]

They should have reworked the grip to accept p365 mags.

[@АлександрНиколаев-щ4у]

Next Bond gun, maybe...**)

[@1982asd]

Not exactly SIG Sauer's best product, low magazine capacity, no picatinny rails, and single action only It might work for a sporting pistol, but it's not good for anything else

[@mac2626]

It would still put a hole in your head.

[@doubled5074]

Basically a paper weight. I get it.

[@rtz549]

Get a Glock 46 for review.

[@Kanaloa47]

If this was double stack 9mm I would buy one. Now days I don’t want a single stack low capacity carry Gun.

[@KossoffFan]

@Carmicha3l Honestly, as accurate as it appears to be, i'd say that makes up for the 8+1 capacity. I could see this being a huge step back for a soldier on a battlefield with ball ammo. But a civilian with excellent quality hollow points, this would be no different than having a really good revolver. Plus one can always do as with a 1911.....buy and carry more mags. Only drawback to that is how much Sig charges for their magazines.

[@LuvBorderCollies]

If someone is not a good marksman then they really should have double stack. I was and still am very confident with 6 in a cylinder and 50 yard shots. It took many thousands of rounds to get to that point.

[@Kanaloa47]

I can appreciate that perspective. That’s how I used to think growing up with a 1911 and feeling just fine. Maybe it’s my paranoia but seeing so many videos of multiple attackers has me rethinking. More attackers needs more ammo. If I’m going to carry a full size pistol I want the advantage of more ammo. That said, 90% of the time I’m carrying a low capacity Glock 43. More reasoning for your justification. Thank you for the comment sir.

[@Kanaloa47]

I can appreciate that perspective. That’s how I used to think growing up with a 1911 and feeling just fine. Maybe it’s my paranoia but seeing so many videos of multiple attackers has me rethinking. More attackers needs more ammo. If I’m going to carry a full size pistol I want the advantage of more ammo. That said, 90% of the time I’m carrying a low capacity Glock 43. More reasoning for your justification. Thank you for the comment sir.

[@Kanaloa47]

I can appreciate that perspective. That’s how I used to think growing up with a 1911 and feeling just fine. Maybe it’s my paranoia but seeing so many videos of multiple attackers has me rethinking. More attackers needs more ammo. If I’m going to carry a full size pistol I want the advantage of more ammo. That said, 90% of the time I’m carrying a low capacity Glock 43. More reasoning for your justification. Thank you for the comment sir.

[@johnphillips222]

SIG makes some beautiful stuff AND innovates, and I respect that. I first carried a P220 with the european mag release in the 70's. The P220 was an improved version of the P210, based on 70's german/swiss technology, instead of 40's technology. $1500 for an 8+1 single action "carry" pistol? My carry pistol is a frankenstein design that costs way too much, $2600 with a red dot optic and is a 0% Glock, Glock G19. I understand spending too much money on a carry pistol. The P210 carry model is too expensive, too pretty, and a 1/2 century too obsolete for carry purposes. It was obsolete in the 80's. Our dealers on allocation have the P210 target and carry models for those that really like the idea of a precise 1940's design. I obsoleted my P220 in the late 80's for a P228 and a G19. I obsoleted those pistols over a decade ago. So much technology has changed in the last decade. Literally, the designs from a decade ago or even 5 years ago are on their way out. The P210 is beautiful history but obsolete for carry, as of the 1980's. It is 3+ generations obsolete. Even the P220 has a firing pin block, so it can use American "soft" primer ammo and be carried with one in the chamber. Put the P220 on an MTS machine and do a Jerk test. Bang! It is another P320 disaster, safety or no safety. At least the P320 for the military had a redundant manual safety to block the trigger.

[@Paladin1873]

Did Sig never fully resolve the drop test issue with the P220? Is there a titanium firing pin option or other solution?

[@johnphillips222]

@ Colonel K Good question. It is hard to find updates that are accurate. The P220 (old school 70's design) has a firing pin block. It is 100% safe (unless there is terrible maintenance) when dropped in the Double Action mode, the way that it is supposed to be carried. In Single Action mode it is possible to drop, usually throw, the P220 and have it fire. The classic P-series pistols (226, 228, 229, etc.) have that same limitation. There is no "dingus" in the trigger shoe. Most people heard of the recent P320 drop safe issues but did not know what you know about the P220. The P320 also has no "dingus". The lightened trigger shoe 99% helps make the P320 drop safe. The P320 has a firing pin block. It can still fire if thrown (more than dropped) in exactly the wrong, bad luck way. I doubt that can happen in real life. If something gets caught in the trigger when dropped, drawn from the holster, or when reholstered, the P320 will fire. That is how the less than intelligent cops have shot themselves AFTER the voluntary upgrade (recall) or new design was released. The corrupt attorneys and corrupt union reps have filed false lawsuits against SIG to cover up the fact that the cops pulled the triggers. The military has a manual safety on the P320. The P320'is 100% drop safe with the safety in the ON position, old or new design. There is a firing pin block. Most ignorant cops and ignorant attorneys have no idea that the engineers can reconstruct firearms accidents. We can even see inside the pistols. Thatbis why the corrupt cops destroy evidence before filing lawsuits against the manufacturere. Their attorneys and union repa found out the hard way. The engineers can see inside the guns. We can also read the "black box" inside the cop cars ...and the cops cannot destroy that evidence without a fire or a hammer.

[@johnphillips222]

Regarding the titanium firing pin solution, that makes things better on a firearm that does NOT have a firing pin block. The P220 (and P320) have firing pin blocks, so the titanium firing pin is not needed. The Ruger LCP versions upgraded to a titanium firing pin, a stronger firimg pin return spring, then a much stronger hammer spring ...and even a DA-like heavy amount of creep in their SA trigger mechanism to more cock the hammer ...to put more-more energy into the hammer. ...And the LCP still cannot shoot european 380 ammo reliably due to the hard euro primers. Remember, in europe the ammo is designed to be "safe" in old and crappy pistols that don't have firing pin blocks. The AR did not go to a titanium firing pin, but the original firing pin went on a diet and was lightened in the 1960's??? Chris is smart and discussed the firing pin indents in primers. SAS is pretty cool with smart people like Chris and Heather and a smart and respectful audience. You asked smart questions.

[@Paladin1873]

@@johnphillips222 I'm aware of the European primer issue. I remember when I acquired my first Cz75 in the early 1980s I was told, contrary to popular belief, the DA trigger pull was not for carrying the pistol in condition 2 (hammer down with a round in the chamber), but was intended to provide a second and third strike capability in case a hard primer did not detonate. This makes more sense to me than carefully lowering the hammer on a live round. Eventually someone is going to have an accidental discharge.

[@johnphillips222]

@ Colonel K You are a smart and well informed man. That is the nice thing about the SAS audience. I have a CZ-75B, so it is a 90's version of the pistol. I keep it around as a reference, just in case a student or Police Officer asks about them. I love the Phillips screws for the grip panels. When you said that the CZ-75 has a DA restrike feature, I had to rethink. Does it? I forgot. I am sure that you are right. Even I have to stop and think. Nobody knows it all about guns. People like you help out so much.

[@xusmico187]

you really hated saying 1911

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

You have no idea!

[@adammfanning3654]

… and then there are the parts and leather.

[@ColeDedhand]

High on cool factor, but low on the practicality for carry.

[@jakeweston8616]

I had a Danish model 49 version 20 years ago. Bought it for $1000. Was a great pistol. Traded it for a Glock 19 and a Norinco AK under folder. You are providing great info as usual but the lighting in this video is terrible!

[@johnchristopher20]

I’ll keep my twin USP 9s that have a firing pin block. Silly me.

[@daviddiffenderfer6963]

No live

[@keyhole9601]

Just a marketing operation....

[@Paladin1873]

$1300 and no ambidextrous safety; shame on Sig.

[@ChrisB-zz8dh]

A safety?? Really?