The Skill ID: The Thomas Salto

[@gymcentric5727]

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[@ria-zul-zannah7100]

It looks so nice that some people won't even realize that one tiny mistake can be fatal for the gymnast who is performing it.

[@claudetteh67]

Not so fun fact: Elena Mukhina, a very promising young Soviet gymnast, broke her neck after being pressured to add the Thomas Salto to her routine in 1980. She was paralyzed at just 20-years-old, a quadriplegic for life, and died from complications of her injury in 2006, age 46.

[@emoskimo]

To add to this, she broke her leg prior to this and the doctor forced to take the cast off early before she started training for the Thomas Salto. This caused his leg to give out

[@juliannah5721]

She tried so hard to tell them she couldn't perform, but the soviets wouldn't listen. And people wanted to give Biles a hard time for stepping out due to the same reason.

[@aalikane]

My stepfathers older brother became quadriplegic at 16 because he landed wrong while practicing gymnastics. We're all amazed when we realize he has lived 2x as long as he was expected to and has so far survived 2 of his 6 siblings. When Simone pulled out, there was not any negative talk from anyone in my family because we've seen what the result is from a bad landing. It's people who've never seen or dealt with the aftermath of a bad landing that think gymnasts should compete when they're not confident they can do it safely

[@camarov8power319]

I'm a guy and I never shed a tear in my life but Her life story was soo sad that I actually shed a tear when reading about it.

[@CC-si3cr]

Her coach was brutal. It was only a matter of time before she had some other type of career ending injury due to his negligence. I saw a routine she did (don't know what it was called) but she did a backflip off the top bar of the uneven bars and caught the top bar coming out of a half twist. Insane! 🤕🤕🤕

[@cellytron]

Thank you for this. I just read about poor Elena Mukhina today and couldn’t visualize the move that paralyzed her. That is an absolutely wild move and I’m surprised more people weren’t severely injured. It’s beautiful to watch but so so so dangerous!

[@mariacamberos1130]

I am here because Elena 😢. I am glad this is banned

[@mattbrownonline]

whos here because of Elena Mukhina

[@destinyjackson5985]

Me so sad

[@mattbrownonline]

@@C87-q9j yes

[@dino91001]

@@C87-q9j lol i came exactly from there! after an explanation was given as to why Simone Biles had to drop out.

[@C87-q9j]

@@dino91001 Yeah same!! Sad times

[@dino91001]

@@C87-q9j also i just now discovered through similar vids that a young gymnast named Melanie Coleman suffered a c spine injury trying to perform her routine on the uneven bars, which she died just two days after her accident. this is so recent too, like in 2019. so damn sad 😔

[@YenAmiracle]

Now I seen it, that’s why it’s dangerous, you land with only arms to buff the whole weight of body plus speed and gravity after spinning in the mid air, a wrong adjustment of the neck, the spine will be the one that takes all the impacts and neck and head is the contact point😨😨😨

[@hermestri4593]

Not if you do it right.

[@KC97220]

@@hermestri4593 nah really??

[@YenAmiracle]

@@hermestri4593 and that is it, “do it right” is everything, it’s like Philippe Petit walked between the twin towers, it’s very dangerous, one misstep, see you next life. “Do it right” is easy to say, but human are not precision machines, one small “wrong” is death or great injuries, that’s why these activities are dangerous.

[@ivanvillalobos7734]

The real life iron lotus

[@gab7e]

@@hermestri4593 it's not just "right" you should literally do it PERFECTLY

[@zinc8002]

I am so so so glad this is banned it is terrifying.

[@yea4253]

Wuss

[@kof0224]

Good thing you never had to do it You know because it's so scary

[@lauraantic1384]

This skill is madness

[@_mmanovva_]

Who is here after reading about Elena Mukhina?

[@nicolajones3643]

🙋🏻‍♀️

[@moonspun4evr]

How do even live long enough to perfect a move like this?

[@treatb09]

Thats really cool. He also has enough height and time to put his hands down for safety. So he wont injure his neck.

[@queenielouweekly3160]

He doesn't have a broken leg, that's why.

[@ASJyirod]

@@queenielouweekly3160easy to rush someone into something you’re not doing yourself.

[@romariobebeto3850]

He made it look easy enough.

[@Donnie-ys7vr]

Yep and thats the most dangerous part, people trying to imitate thinking its easy. Thats why there countless accidents to the point this skill was banned from both female/male gymnastics

[@nzkiwiange]

You give it a crack then 🥴

[@tomeveritt9115]

@@nzkiwiange Exactly.

[@corazoncubano5372]

Not at all.

[@grobanite4ever85]

@@Donnie-ys7vr in men's gymnastics the move was not banned for them until 2017.

[@corazoncubano5372]

How did Kurt Thomas even come up with this!

[@aliensoup2420]

It’s like all skills - start with the basic component and add a rotation and a twist. Instead of a dive roll, you do a round-off, 1/2 turn, dive roll. Then do a 1/2 turn, 1 1/2 somersault dive roll. Then do a 1 1/2 turn, 1 1/2 somersault dive roll.

[@ervingjamesdelrosario5019]

He is a genius during his time

[@dronography4174]

I heard he couldn’t land a full in. And was good at Arabians. So he did an extra half turn and rolled out. Heard this in a recent Gymcastic episode.

[@ritazanin1429]

Any doctor around to test the potential danger of such an apparently easy performance? Or does it take statistics afterwards to prove the danger? Any statistics available worldwide yet?

[@daisiaaa]

kurt thomas , the creator of the thomas salto , died last year ☹️

[@mjjm5511]

Yes, but his death was unrelated to his move. May he RIP

[@carlosperez-dw1dp]

La suavidad y la simpleza aparente con la que el Sr. Thomas lo realiza. Es aterradora.

[@DavidBarton2]

The amount of height this guy Kurt Thomas was able to get was insane. I can see why he was able to pull it off. He was so high in the air, he came down with a lot of space. I watched another video of a Chinese competitor doing this in 1992 and she was nowhere near as high in the air as this guy. Hers looked close. This guy was swan diving

[@tochie-ugorji2021]

He Xuemei. She was the last female gymnast to perform it.

[@ahmedhikmet1057]

Rip Champ Kurt, We dont forget you.

[@lordbyron3603]

It’s a beautiful skill …. If you can execute it without injuring yourself!

[@TubeYouFromMe]

Elena Muhkina became paralyzed doing the Thomas Salto move. So sad that she was pushed by her country to perform knowing she was not healed from a previous injury.

[@grobanite4ever85]

This move was not banned in men's gymnastics until 2017

[@gymcentric5727]

after 2016 it was banned, so yes i was correct in the video as were you. until 2017 and after 2016 are the same things.

[@grobanite4ever85]

@@gymcentric5727 I realized you said that in the video after I posted that

[@MyChilepepper]

Should've been banned earlier. I just watched another male gymnast paralyzed in 2010

[@grobanite4ever85]

@@MyChilepepper yes I agree. The thomas salto and all other roll out moves should have banned in 1992 in men's gymnastics along with women's gymnastics

[@gymcentric5727]

@@MyChilepepper who?

[@absinthe-minded6089]

If your olympic gymnast and you feel like your gonna break your neck, you gonna break your neck.

[@krystaln7455]

This guy makes it look so easy 😳

[@kamilokamal9522]

Imagine if Kurt Thomas had not invented this salto, Elena Mukhina would have participated in the 1980 games and survived !!

[@marwahussein666]

This is not his guilty. And who inveted this skill was his coach not him

[@stephanierando3477]

I think that Elena would have been crippled or killed doing another equally dangerous skill. She had a broken leg and her coaches refused to allow her time to heal. She couldn't say no. Soviet coaches back then had complete control of their athletes. She was made a quadriplegic doing the Thomas Salto, but on a broken leg any acrobatic skill could have killed her.

[@jayp5599]

Don’t blame the creator, it was not his fault. That’s like blaming the inventor of cars causing people to die of car accidents! Or perhaps even the whole sport of gymnastics for being invented. It was her coach’s fault for working her too hard and not listening to her.

[@DavidBarton2]

Pretty sure it was the USSR's fault, but okay

[@pommeverte1031]

I really like the music, can you tell me what it is please ?

[@ukiss-laboum-superjunior-trax]

me choca mas ter descoberto que o ginasta que inventou esse salto começou a treinar aos 20 anos

[@SB-pf5rc]

"I feel like a lot of poodle" Poodle?

[@tine2141]

slightly wrong and it ripps your head between your shoulderblades. thats why it is banned! and im glad it is!

[@46foryounger]

I wonder how Kurt Thomas felt after inventing it only yo find out someone because paralyzed and eventually died from doing it

[@gymcentric5727]

yeah i hope he felt no guilt during his lifetime. he and his coaches found a difficult skill that he could execute very well, he should take none of the blame for others and their coaches choices.

[@everythinggymnastics5535]

I wonder what it would be value today If It wasn’t banned for both men and women

[@gymcentric5727]

Men’s side i’m guessing C because it’s tucked and the full in is a D. On the women’s side, I’d guess D for this code and for the 2022-2024 code i’d guess an E to enhance originality.

[@anngulliver5964]

I'm sure I remember this move during the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

[@lucan.996]

Maybe jaegar on Highbar. I always thought that skill was cool.

[@gymcentric5727]

men do the most beautiful jaegers

[@finnhall9478]

@@gymcentric5727 facts

[@PerAllwin1963]

It’s a move that only men should do, not women, as evidenced by the tragedy that befell Elena Mukhina

[@LynnGunnels]

Gender has nothing to do with it. It's dangerous for everyone

[@DavidBarton2]

Is that because of strength? I noticed this guy is very high in the air, but the videos of a couple females looked like they were way closer to the ground

[@crunkwun]

Hold my beer

[@aliensoup2420]

Why does Uchimura do it in competition? And Britain’s Daniel Purvis?

[@ellenm1228]

They don’t anymore. It was banned for men after 2016, as the video said.

[@Whatsitallabaaat]

It later developed into not using your hands during the landing, a clean landing didn't use hands. This move should be a compulsory part, not banned. Just like the fabulous ice skating move, the infamous iron lotus.

[@andybailey8077]

I see what you did there.

[@annieskywalker6405]

Yes. Putting the hands down changes it entirely!

[@mojosbigsticks]

You land on your neck?

[@hellswrath9750]

Badassery 🤘👊💪

[@amygdala51]

It's probably easier for poodles.

[@gaylequinonez6296]

THOMAS SALTO has been BANNED longtime ago.

[@grobanite4ever85]

It was banned in women's gymnastics in 1992 it was not banned for men until 2017

[@yea4253]

Unfortunately, I might add

[@TizuMihail]

Dar și Olga Kobut a executat aceasta săritură încă mai bine ca Thomas!

[@marwahussein666]

Não

[@rubendariomateo9676]

Que destresa fisica genial

[@goodpumpum656]

THONAS SALTO, WHITE, MOVE BANNED

[@cabininthewoods7326]

And denied 1980 olympics because of politics.

[@katenjoroge]

Very dangerous! Issa no!

[@cubswin3838]

Not allowed anymore. Considered too dangerous. Kurt was brave and talented. I wish he had chance in 1980. I still disagree with the boycott. Why bring athletes into this invasion of Afghanistan?

[@goelnuma6527]

Fatal, good thing it is banned

[@VeryCherryCherry]

Annoying music.

[@gymcentric5727]

My fault, i made this video a while ago before i developed better taste in audio for my videos. feel free to turn your volume down!

[@varunshahvo-tv9854]

Why is this banned They are practicing on a mattress anyways

[@MarmiAfrinTsubie]

It left gymnasts paralyzed. Gymnastics is one of those sports where one wrong landing can cost you your life.

[@varunshahvo-tv9854]

@@MarmiAfrinTsubie bro its still a mattress

[@Itssssn]

@@varunshahvo-tv9854 bro let’s see you do it. Imbecile.

[@tomeveritt9115]

You are terribly ignorant.

[@franxx941]

@@varunshahvo-tv9854 like some say not every event is done on mattress and even if the jump is made on a mattress you could still ending dislocating something if you fail. It's a dangerus jump not worth using it when there are other type of jump of same difficulty but less dangerus.

[@winchesternathan]

I've seen Trump do this. Viva! Trump!

[@Beachandpool]

Horrible

[@Beachandpool]

​@SafoshkinFanwow, how sad

[@DavidBarton2]

what?

[@opdgrow4life]

Personally I think it’s pretty dumb that any move would be banned. Dangerous? OK. Don’t do it if you are comfortable doing it. Comfortable doing it? Bad ass move to pull off

[@opdgrow4life]

@@annev6541 …..clearly lady 🙄. Hence why I said “personally I think it’s dumb.” As in me, my thought, my opinion. Not “how it works.”

[@hunterhawkins8754]

well you defended that stupid opinion like an asshole, congratulations broski

[@angelaatejera1736]

To give you more perspective: It’s banned to keep athletes from spending ridiculous hours trying to perfect it. Training to execute such skill is a health hazard. Therefore, it’s far-fetched to say that banning the Thomas Salto is dumb.

[@opdgrow4life]

@@angelaatejera1736 Who is to tell another person they can’t spend as many hours as they feel like I’m perfecting the move? It’s literally the biggest fucking competition in the world and you’re going to tell a world-class athlete they can’t spend time perfecting a skill? 😂 You know what else is a health hazard? Smoking cigarettes. Eating fast food. Drinking alcohol. Do they not allow them to do those things either? And it’s absolutely idiotic to disallow a move because it’s difficult and someone might hurt themselves.

[@angelaatejera1736]

@@opdgrow4life The Olympic body takes into careful consideration of what they put under their criteria (e.g. scope and limitations of each sport). There is already a Thomas Salto-related death. Moreover, there is an influx of gymnasts who already got injured from it. The type of injury also counts. Gymnastics itself, like any other sport already comes with risks. Olympic heads, or any other sports name always revise rules for standardization. Health and welfare of the athletes are top priority in the recent years.