The smartest guy in the room: Cameron Ortis and the RCMP secrets scandal - The Fifth Estate

[@loritracy1385]

I'm not even Canadian & this is one of my favorite channels. So well done.

[@beautifulmind1177]

Are you kidding me ?

[@loritracy1385]

@@beautifulmind1177 - Um...no. I don't troll. Why?

[@lesevans6567]

I agree. Non Canadian also.

[@Themapleleaforever]

@@loritracy1385As a Canadian I can explain. CBC is partially funded by the government or by political parties, giving it biases mostly on the left.

[@MsMumbaikar]

Lol and I am an Indian from Mumbai and it is my favorite channel 😅

[@nawfali2670]

More than 100k views in 2 days, the fifth estate has to be the most awaited program in Canada

[@grimmertwin2148]

All the spies watch it for updates

[@GSXK4]

The RCMPs' number 1 computer security guy sends an unsecured, incriminating email to the bad guys soliciting bribes. Makes you wonder just how inept the rest of RCMP is.

[@lorrainesimser446]

😂😂😂😘

[@mouthbreather280]

I wondered myself how this guy didn’t presumably take any steps to hide his identity in contacting the encrypted phones guy. Like did he use his @rcmp email for goodness sake? Must be one high level security official you got there.

[@paulscottfilms]

He was trying to draw out the Phantom encryption because some very nice people will be using the same system Ortis and Ramos were the fall guys.

[@richardkey4289]

Two kids on a murder fantasy bender outsmarted our federal police force for a couple weeks 2 years ago, & I'm sure they didn't have any special training or expertise

[@paulscottfilms]

What in earth makes you think that Ortis was that dumb. Surely you would not believe that. Anyway> Ortis was trying to establish an entry to Pahnatom Secure . The clients and the system. The compromised niodes run all the way up to Trudeau. Trudeau's people found out, getting to close you see, When do you think you will see an open investigation or even a kangaroo court trail for Ortis ?

[@JonH-]

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Jonathan Horvatin I wol I second that.

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[@darcybhaiwala7057]

Yup.

[@mthom100]

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[@mthom100]

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[@emjay9733]

A govt that keeps its own secrets guarded from the public but demands transparency from its citizens is neither free nor democratic.

[@winniefindstheway]

We have been screwed since the first trudeau... gave us the second trudeau to finish us off

[@YensecaTube]

You have a problem with a country keeping itself and its people safe? Thats absurd, people cant know everything. There are bad people who dont want secrets guarded from the public who use this against the country. Pretty childish mentality

[@emjay9733]

@@YensecaTube it’s childish to trust them

[@fonkamex]

All of of the so called states around the world do that. I mean you are naive if you believe that organizations are transparent toward yourself or other people, just think about big companies, religious organizations, criminals, sects is all typical human behavior.

[@emjay9733]

@@fonkamex i didn’t say it was unique and that doesn’t exempt it from criticism

[@shojimujoshojimujo3315]

The fact that they're talking as if having a phone with privacy and security capabilities is somehow immoral or bad is ridiculous. We all have a right to privacy and security regardless if it happens to assists criminals.

[@dubzy8334]

Amen

[@andrewsmith7115]

You need to read the criminal code of Canada. It’s illegal to assist in a criminal conspiracy. I thought that was common knowledge.

[@aewtx]

No, they weren't bothered by that part. In fact, they said the creator had good intentions when he started. It was when the criminals began using it as a workaround from authorities, and the creator aiding them, that it became a problem.

[@bestintentions6089]

@slippery when wet ! you own nothing too , allotted by your compliance to the government

[@CelticSaint]

I don't wish to come across as tin foil hattish, but they are pushing us towards complete 24/7 surveillance. All will be in place by 2030.

[@trishtriebner6723]

Don’t stop reporting truths. Canadians need you.

[@distractionb]

Yeah, but nobody needs Canadians. haha (joke)

[@alicewerenka8820]

Re-qualifying for TOP security clearance with the RCMP every F I V E years, in what world does that even make sense???. It should be minimally yearly and the persons’ private life (financial) be scrutinized.

[@martinc.720]

@niftertube Conservatives did not change the re qualification rules, and I don’t see you calling them names for that

[@jamesr1703]

Exactly! A person could do a lot of damage in a year, much more in 5 years, if they really wanted to.

[@chrsmcfrln]

It’s only negative vetting (access only to top secret projects that involve you) that’s every 5 years, and that’s standard throughout the 5 eyes. Positive vetting (access to anything top secret) should be reviewed annually. Anyway, polygraph would probably not be effective on Ordis. Malignant narcissists often don’t indicate stress when lying.

[@andymilic4093]

Contemplate these same Canadian police forces actually investigate themselves! Internally,no less,& most certainly never released publicly unless heavily redacted!! That says it all, above their own countries law's. Exactly why police have sovereign immunity, & are cohersed to constantly lie on the stand in court, daily.

[@Ephesians-612]

then people will hold power at other positions like in politics. The figurehead gets cycled out but the long standing positions hardly mentioned are where decision making is made.

[@MrUnsubtle]

It really bothers me that the RCMP really feel like they have the absolute right to access everyone's private communication. They were acting like them not having instant access to everything was a huge travesty of justice. Remember back when they needed a warrant and probable cause to tap a phone. Now they record everything.

[@Eiraart]

The cop said his greatest fear was people being able to ensure their privacy WTF - this is our Canadian government’s approach to “freedom” - you can live and do what you want but we need to see it all - STFU

[@lydiamalone1859]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[@MrUnsubtle]

You need a warrant to tap a landlines. Cell phones don't have any protection under the law and since no one uses landlines any more we lost that right. They can even access your cells camera ,mic and GPS eve if you think k you've got it turned off.

[@kurtb9458]

@@MrUnsubtle wrong, need judication authorization, section 185 or 186 of criminal code, unless exigent circumstances arise then can ping your phone.

[@elavke5441]

Yep f'd up isn't it?

[@kathryngeisler7397]

Narcissists can be very dangerous. Personality tests should be given to potential employees.

[@marygoff3332]

Almost all "leaders" worldwide now are psychopaths. Control, control, control.

[@paulscottfilms]

You really are not too bright are you kathryn.

[@ssssss7816]

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[@petepenn1]

@@ssssss7816 Have you seen George Webb's work on the black berries in the USA gov and hunter b. Very deep.

[@duelenigma7732]

@@paulscottfilms you are bright only in your own dull head PAUL

[@landrec2]

Great story. But notice that CBC recommends using "secure drop" to submit sensitive stories - while at the same time condemning the same encryption technology in the story. Privacy and confidential communication are necessary for trade, journalism, free speech and banking. Encryption is a tool that we all use every day and isn't inherently evil.

[@wilfdarr]

No! Make math illegal! Ban ciphers! 😜

[@Reth_Hard]

Yeah, basically they're saying that everybody should have the rights of privacy, but at the same time... the police should be able to easily read and listen everything that is going through your cell phone, and that as soon as you are suspected OR being close to someone who is suspected of doing something illegal. That is some next level journalism right there! lol

[@Reth_Hard]

Also... OMG! This guy knows how to install an encryption system on a cell phone! Must be a genius!

[@davesutton9624]

You got that right. If the "law enforcement" world cannot decrypt the data, too bad. Perhaps they need someone a bit more intelligent to do just that. In the mean time, yes, we all have the right to privacy.

[@Reth_Hard]

@@davesutton9624 Can't wait to see the first real quantum computers able to crack AES hit the market... That's going to be a challenging to keep anything really private.

[@tylerrjohnson68]

Explains why American politicians wouldn't give up their blackberries

[@paulscottfilms]

Yes, possibly not all of them. Once we see a lttle through the opaque shield the more frightening it gets. We are literally watching the collapse of the Western civilisation so callled democracy system

[@TheLastOilMan]

they would go broke !

[@cackalackaboi9737]

Guarantee it

[@victoriabishop1057]

@@paulscottfilms Mexican drug cartel. Messianic drug cartel and criminal activity is a direct effect No drug Cartel started around 1600 AD when East India company with the Help of British Government forced china to accept opium trade and China plunged in to addiction phase. Sins of fathers....This was European official criminal enterprise with Royal charter🙄🙄🙄 coming to haunt....

[@brianrapson2433]

Thank you so much Fifth Estate for your hard work in giving we the people the real news we all miss.

[@marilynhaley7033]

To bad fifth estate wouldn't report the scandals Jt is doing

[@austinrenwick5177]

I'm from UK and I just love watching fifth estate always good content.

[@CelticSaint]

It makes us feel better about our own corrupt kneeling police farce.

[@iron-farmer]

Please tell your dudes to stop making golf videos 😆

[@justaroot4315]

@@CelticSaint I feel same in America...we even have a whole division called Space Farce!

[@tothelighthouse9843]

You guys have The Guardian--I'm Canadian & LOVE the CBC, but first time I ever sent in a donation to support a news organization it was to The Guardian. Steller investigative reporting.

[@DakotaBeerDrinker74]

From the US and love the Fifth Estate’s exceptional journalism!

[@--Skip--]

Fantastic storyline. Thank you, Fifth Estate, for this true story!

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A good story well done by 5th Estate. Can't get over feeling an empty space.

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The fitfh estate is finally back.

[@nickygeeksterx01]

Yes with Bob McKeown no less....Brilliant!

[@issafula]

Been waiting for a while😭

[@angielala9453]

Spies Suck!

[@TnAKounT]

If you’re the smartest person in the room..? You’re in the wrong room.

[@slypear]

I'm Canadian, not now living in Canada, and by chance just happened across this episode. zomg How I missed this program!

[@trashketchup1497]

Ummm is anyone gonna tell thekilla, knee capper and el chapo that you’re not supposed to make those your usernames 😂

[@augustsnowfall5189]

Yeah 🙄it really shows how arrogant they are!

[@laraandrews9710]

Most likely because these are all Hollywood characters and Israeli secret intelligence agencies

[@angielala9453]

Doubt they did...

[@angielala9453]

Non Bel_Eever 😉

[@angielala9453]

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[@basimashabo3625]

The Fifth Estate never fails. Keep up the good work 👍

[@alanfenick1103]

I was a Private First Class in the US Army Security Agency in the 60”s. It seems I was given more attention than that what was given to higher ranking officers! Background checks, psychological exams, drug tests, constant monitoring! My job description was to feed tape into a machine and monitor a teletype machine in code! Never knew what was being received or transmitted! Yet always monitored!

[@FigaroHey]

People who use exclamation points at the end of every sentence are routinely monitored by security services. Common knowledge.

[@kathleenhebert2278]

😳!

[@regnaessej]

meh, there's WAYYY more to this story than we'll ever know

[@paulscottfilms]

thought no-one was here >> The 5th column has not even thought about why Ortis was trying to crack the Phantom secure. Go here > Ingvaldson > Sex racket criminal> Starnet sex industry > Castro's son's friend Ingvaldson > Compromised nodes > RCMP > Fives eyes system > traitor at the top > Ortis discovery of Highest level traitor so he has to be brought down in a sting.

[@alainportant6412]

It's still unclear after this documentary what this Cameron Ortiz dude did exactly. A lot of airtime for the defaced thumb stone though.

[@siterioffiji]

@@paulscottfilms That makes more sense the more I watch this documentary. Ortis must have found out something absolutely terribly horrible about top Canadian government and private sector people.

[@cooljerk4362]

precisely

[@useyour-cHf2bS9swv]

Oh u'll no, it's the ell eve phent in the room. Mushrooms

[@martin2514]

Don't forget the laws to stop the criminals are also used against Jo public.

[@nickomendez2176]

Walloce sohl that guy has no traits of a real estate agent LMAO. He talks just exactly like any other Drug bosses

[@goatamongsheep4296]

You'd be surprised at what 'jo public' knows that could help the cops, but they think they know everything already.

[@andrewsmith7115]

It’s called *probable cause* . Learn before you comment.

[@djm24able]

Y’all did a really good job on that I wasn’t even trying to watch this video it just popped on after me watching some Mr. ballan videos and ended up watching the whole thing get a really really good job thank you guys for that

[@AdonaiZedek]

Everyone wants to talk without someone listening in. Even the govt.

[@useyour-cHf2bS9swv]

Or think, to myself. WTF. Can u hear menow?

[@tonyarnez5193]

What the good doctor is describing about these government employees abusing their authority, pretty much sums it up, power corrupts. We the people should be demanding a limit to anyone holding too much power over others. This happened on Justin Trudeau's watch too.

[@MrLoobu]

They should just use AM radio, no one has the gear to even tune in to those stations anymore lol

[@edwinacaparelli9911]

exactly!

[@edwinacaparelli9911]

man this is a great story, there is so many elements here and it's better than fiction!

[@hookbeak3516]

MrLoobu - C.B was the forerunner to mobiles phones & the internet, it amuses me to still see car antennas & home based dipoles. I refer to the U.K. A.M had always been illegal here. F.M was legalised 2/11/81. You can still buy this stuff on E-Bay.

[@hookbeak3516]

@@edwinacaparelli9911 sometimes there's a fine line between fact & fiction, especially on the internet. Everyone has their price, supposedly. Anything these days can be faked, forged or in the 21 century 3D printed (hope you understand) 3D printers are very clever.

[@MrUnsubtle]

Security through obsolescence. The excellent anime ,ghost in the shell ,has as scene where a hacker has all his info on floppy disks.

[@I-_-I_SB]

Government is the biggest Crime Syndicate \-_-/

[@sagrammyfour]

Truer words were never spoken. The deep state corruption extends through all levels of government, state, municipal and federal, business, the entire entertainment industry, including music, stage and film, all religions (pope Frank, the apostate and the 1,000s of pedo clergy), all levels of law enforcement-state, local and federal, and especially the media who control all information--news, internet communications, phone, TV, computers--FB, YT, Twitter, etc. This is what President Trump meant when he said DEEP STATE.

[@brianrapson2433]

@@sagrammyfour Yes you are 100% correct on all counts.

[@JohnDoe-mp1zk]

@@sagrammyfour well what would you have the cartel, mob be in charge. I'll stick with the government. Yes , crime is apart of every demographic/organization etc in society. You mean Trump who didn;t like any news outlet that criticized him and accused them ALL of being corrupt, even Fox in the end an this will probably just be a ploy to get your 4.99 month subscription fee to the trump dirt bag news channel; where we exploit the nutty folks in our society. Do yourself a a favor, stop watching all this nonsense, forget about ti and just try to enjoy the rest of your life, whatever it takes do it.

[@sagrammyfour]

@@JohnDoe-mp1zk The government IS crime cartel. Don't you get it. Joe Biden and his son, through the office of vice president and ex vice president criminally made money from China and Russia who have been trying to insert themselves into American life--not for the benefit of Americans.

[@susaraswessels5555]

Cartels or Governments,? A good question

[@MrLoobu]

Ive been working for a decade now, still havent found a job that wasnt criminal.

[@uwcb1]

You should probably just get out of politics then.🤣😂😅

[@sagrammyfour]

Go to school--become a nurse.

[@theprince1795]

@@sagrammyfour i guess the pharmaceutical industry isnt criminal enough

[@sagrammyfour]

@@theprince1795 BIGPHARMA is the worst. They are directly responsible for many deaths and much suffering. All in the name of the almighty dollar. But again, as a retired NURSE, I challenge you to find another profession that cares as much, studies harder, prepares better, and works as hard as, NURSES. We are there assisting you to get and stay healthy, caring for you when you are sick (look up what it means to care for someone on a ventilator or on ECMO), and finally we are there at the end, to comfort and ease the pain of dying when there is nothing else to be done. What other profession do you know that does that? What other professions cry at the end of a shift, take the pain home with them, and sometimes wake up from a dream about what else could we have done? And BTW, the salaries aren't always that great, the hours are exhausting, we are required to work on holidays, weekends, and nights, and there is zero tolerance for calling in unless we are really really sick. We miss family time, birthdays, anniversaries, many holidays, weddings, first steps, first days of school, and funerals. We have to fight to be there to care for the sick in our own families and even ourselves. And we have to take an awful lot of abuse from families, patients, doctors, administration--but we forgive, because we know people are suffering and hurting. So, the next time you are sick and need care, try thinking a little kindly towards your NURSE. I regard being as a NURSE as a SACRED CALLING.

[@sagrammyfour]

@@suzanh7777 thank you.

[@djxjxixsmjxjskjzxn1853]

"Im coming for ya!" TRANSLATION: "I called the FBI and grassed you up."

[@MeruAyano]

That journalist added absolutely nothing relevant to the case or situation. I do not see the point in the Fifth Estate interviewing her at all. At least her clips were short.

[@cheerp7313]

I thought so, too! And that irritating high-pitched voice.

[@alainportant6412]

I smell misogyny in this comment section

[@shaunbasi3822]

This is just another example of R.C.M.P incompetency.

[@astroloupicus]

Great show. But, the polygraph test is not accepted in court because, at its best, it's effective about 62% of the time. Not good.

[@tjmarx]

The Fifth Estate just tries to throw mud at RCMP constantly. They don't care if that mud has any base, just as long as the RCMP look bad they're happy. Contrary to the claim by this episode, the CIA does not use polygraph in their admissions screening and has not done so in 30 years. Fifth estate don't care about fact, if those facts get in the way of telling a good story about the RCMP being incompetent.

[@Ziterberg]

@@tjmarx This is very true. It's hard to find anything the CBC covers on the RCMP other than mudslinging. Seems like Otis was about to blow the lid off the shady surveillance the federal government has been doing. We'll never know now.

[@mksabourinable]

In all fairness the RCMP kinda suck. This was the one time where I was like "uh.... Polygraphs are bs"

[@michaelpatrick7888]

its still better than simply asking questions,,,it does have a higher percentage for the benefit of detecting deception and detecting heart and breath changes so it is effective,,,,,except when used on people who have no conscience or have guilt over a crime like sociopaths and such

[@tjmarx]

That is out and out untrue@@michaelpatrick7888 . A polygraph never detects deception, ever. It attenpts to detect anxiety through changes to blood pressure and perspiration. There are in fact lots of reasons someone might have such changes, deceit is very low on that list. Polygraph has been demonstrated over and over for 60 years now, to be no more accurate at finding deceit than any random person without a polygraph. That is, it's demonstrated to be no better than just asking questions. It is a complete falsehood that only people without a conscious can "pass". There are in fact a number of providers offering 3 hour long courses that teach ANYONE to "beat" a polygraph. There are likewise videos on KZbin teaching the same for free. They are extremely easy to "beat" and it is extremely common for them to give false positive results to people who did nothing wrong. A polygraph is inadmissible in court because it has long been shown to be junk. They are deployed ONLY as a psychological tool at this point. That is, if you lie to a suspect by telling them you have a machine that knows when they're lying and they believe you, they just might confess on their own. Or to put that another way, they use it against naive and stupid people to try and get them to confess. Same as when you tell a suspect you have evidence that proves their guilt that you in fact do not have. Antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy) has nothing to do with having or not having a conscious. Please stop spreading misinformation about multiple topics you have no understanding of.

[@denzelheden4256]

he provided untraceable phones to Criminals, but the FBI caught him through his phone signal...

[@davidbennett9691]

This is exactly the kind of story that Bob has always done so well.

[@cackalackaboi9737]

That poker player is pretty bold going on a tv show and divulging his identity like he did . He’s got some big ‘ol balls!

[@bokani79]

He is probably under witness protection and lives in a aafe house some place we can’t locate.

[@kimdaffy4427]

Soooo interesting!!!! Thank you Fifth Estate for keeping it real and no AI.

[@examplelife1567]

Yeah, didn't think it was ever going to be a case of "GREAT POLICE WORK" by the RCMP. After all, is it ever??

[@sinjimsmythe9577]

When I see people saying they need to restrict the use of private communication devices by all citizens, in order to protect the good citizens from bad people, and lots of ordinary people then advocate aggressively for the same, I reminded of “the good of the people is always the alibi of tyrants, and has the added benefit of giving good conscience to the servants of tyranny”

[@KSMP]

He will likely have a lot of information that he can use to bargain for a lighter sentence.

[@KneeJerkReactions13]

Interesting that he described the R.C.M.P. as a paramilitary organization. I thought they were a law enforcement agency of the Federal government. Bob Paulson should be subject to a 15 year financial audit. Always follow the money, bet he got paid.

[@enthros5116]

maybe all these important folks just need to be paid more, their so smart, what would we ever do without them. just tears them up not being able to monitor all of us. real public service.

[@thomasthezaugg]

The sarcasm on this is top notch, really. Would like again.

[@mstasz2108]

Just about everything related to psychology and psychiatry in the Canadian criminal justice system is counterintuitive and counterproductive. I give you Karla Homolka.

[@kokoskokso]

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I dare to say that it's not the one man's fault as much as a failure of a system that was not in place within the RCMP and that their regulations allowed to give an increased amount of power coupled with decreased amount of oversight.

[@rosiegalvan5069]

I love The Fifth Estate. The content is always so interesting.

[@astroloupicus]

New biz op. I have the new excellent encrypted smartphones no gov can crack. I am going back to analog. A string and two cans. $20.

[@tomill1085]

I have something better. A string piece of paper and a pigeon for $30.

[@sharonsekhon9475]

smoke signals.

[@veddergirl3521]

Telepathic powers No strings no paper no hard drive no birds $40

[@sharonsekhon9475]

@@veddergirl3521 reminds me of the time machine from Napoleon Dynamite.

[@mouthbreather280]

I have a flashlight I can shine from across a pond or field. *_*tap_** *_*tap_** **tap*_*_ Morse code. 30$

[@viewlesscheese]

wow...If this was a movie you'd think there was no way it could happen in real life.

[@panama-canada]

What did the phone guy do criminally, I don’t get it? He was just selling secure phones. He has no responsibility of what people do with his phones. Let’s put CEOs of Bell and Rogers and Telus in jail too because their SIM cards were surely used in coordinating crime.

[@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688]

I can't be the only person who got satisfaction out of hearing this guy got arrested right as he was about to tee off.

[@cortransport]

they turn “bad” when they get to a certain point in the government platform and realized it’s not what everyone think our governments do.. and it’s pretty sickening.. at that point they don’t care and turn bad as they are labeled.

[@Davids-cc9sn]

Well... when you swim in a sewer...

[@joeywilburn8672]

Your information is not private in any form or anyplace from any government.

[@marcelvans4604]

crrect ,,privacy"" ??? CONE only wisper with your hand before your mouth will do the trik.

[@Xantank]

iPhone is pretty secure

[@tarunm4534]

Tip of the iceberg who says corruption doesn't exist in Canada...I wish law enforcement should do the needful in we charity scandal and prosecution should bring Trudeau to justice..

[@melissanelson2849]

I love the fifth estate. I’m from the USA but love this documentaries series 🌹🌹🌹

[@LisaRoussel-o3r]

It is the best followed by dateline and 48 hours ❤❤❤

[@aaronpdoucette]

At times it felt like Ortis was only vaguely tied to this story. Anyway, he seems like a wiener.

[@fazem137]

What a shock top ranking official that’s corrupt!? Now that’s unheard of! 😂

[@ZAR-2225]

Trump.

[@roder51]

@@marc-andrehould7368 You misspelled T-R-U-M-P

[@sparx180]

Faze M LOL!!!!

[@virginiapurvis3917]

Cameron was definitely underestimated. He probably was sent in the RCMP by criminal organizations. I bet he wasn't the only person.

[@ryanjoseph2345]

Bryan Callen’s interview with RJ brought me here. Fascinating story and excellent production / storytelling

[@michaelmartin96]

RJ is an entertaining character

[@bw4555]

HAHAHA! This guy's encrypted phones are illegal!! "If you have a story.... send us a secure drop."

[@user-yx6qt3pb1e]

“Counter productive” is Canada’s middle name

[@gullybull5568]

human traffic more slaves from broken countries - cheapen Canada more .

[@Wutaskier]

This kind of just points out how inept the RCMP is. Why is it that people in the senior ranks can "protect" obvious problem employees. The leadership that let this happen needs to have some jail time, loose their pension and all assets taken away.

[@sarahholland2600]

Because getting rid usually leads to expensive legal action from the employee: who 9 times out of 10, won't go quietly if they're the 'problem' or troublemaker type.

[@stfuplsok]

@Dennis Long *lose

[@dannysee1]

The smartest guy in Protective Custody now.

[@unglaubichuberlieber8048]

really??? was he not granted bail???

[@TnAKounT]

If you’re the smartest person in the room..? You’re in the wrong room.

[@Xantank]

What room would Albert Einstein go in?

[@mikemann2053]

Brilliant, well researched doco. Truly professional journalism.

[@johnallen2771]

Love this show. It's one of my fav Canadian shows. The whole "War on Drugs" did more harm than good imo. There are so many examples like this where people motivated by greed and a feeling of entitlement get involved. I suppose it was the same way back in the days of Prohibition. We should realize that these "sin laws" never work. If a person wants to find a hooker they're going to find one. If they want to smoke a joint they're going to find one. We can't legislate morality.

[@lawoftheuniverse8089]

You Nailed it John...But our Governments are very primitive and of course are controlled by lobbyists and big corporations and their agenda is just fine with the way things are...

[@outlawJosieFox]

Excellent point. Making certain drugs have a bogey man status while telling us all about the benefits of modern medical solutions based on pharmacology just does not work. How can we allow people to consume so much liquor that they are no longer in control of themselves but tell kids that one joint will send them into a meltdown. People just do not believe the authorities any more on this subject.

[@Stoat6789]

@@lawoftheuniverse8089 b

[@nickjung7394]

The polygraph is not an "international standard" any more that the Scientologists "e-meter is.

[@djxjxixsmjxjskjzxn1853]

The Americans have now realised the limited use of Polygraph and it has now been replaced with the more reliable tea-leaf reading and sheep entrail inspections. For more complex investigations they hold a seance. Gotta love our north American cousins for their utter lunacy.

[@thomasthezaugg]

There's a difference between admisable in court and its use as an investigative tool, or you know, screening for an intelligence analyst. Anything to say, "America Dumb" though, right?

[@djxjxixsmjxjskjzxn1853]

@@thomasthezaugg Well it is quite stupid to rely on a technology that has never been proven to work. If it doesnt work, what's the point of using it as an investigative tool? Recently, in the UK, it was used on a TV show when a guy was asked if he cheated on his wife. The polygraph test said he lied, she left, so he killed himself. Subsequent forensic checks of his cellphone records, emails etc proved he had no contact with the person he was accused of having an affair with. The show was immediately cancelled.

[@somenygaard]

I was asked to take a polygraph for a security clearance I needed in the US Navy, TS-SCI. I refused and I really thought I would not get the clearance but the lady who was doing my interview, who oddly enough looked a lot like this woman in the video, asked my why I wouldn’t take it. I had a former coworker who was a certified polygraph examiner and was a State level Secretary/Treasurer who once told me to never agree to take one so I told her that and she said “Good advice.” I got to my first duty station and I was one of a handful of people who actually got a permanent clearance and everyone else had interim clearances. Not only do they use polygraph as pre-employment screening aid they actually use something even more absurd IMO a voice stress analysis which seems to be even more sketchy than the polygraph.

[@somenygaard]

@@djxjxixsmjxjskjzxn1853 Every country has issues, cousin.

[@danmoyer4650]

When I was a kid, if anyone asked what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would always say, "A mountie!" Over the years, through horrific blunders like the loss of all the evidence relating to the bombing of Air India Flight 182, I've come to see that the RCMP is a collection of incompetent, bungling, bullies, misogynists, racist egomaniacs. Sure, there are many decent, honest, hard-working officers in the RCMP, but the organization itself is a disgrace and an embarrassment to Canada. It should be cleansed from top to bottom with the background and performance of every member, starting at the top, being reviewed and scrutinized in depth by an unrelated third party. If "issues" are detected, that member should be fired immediately with no severance pay and where possible, the termination of RCMP pensions. This hallowed "institution" has become a stain on the reputation of Canada.

[@hodathunkit8572]

Couldnt agree more

[@annebackman9277]

You are amazing Bob! Keep at it! Thank you!

[@tothelighthouse9843]

"I'm Bob McEwen in Ottawa". Fun fact: you can tell with the Parliament buildings behind him that he's actually standing across the River from Ottawa--likely at the Canadian Museum of History. He's not in Ottawa, he's in Hull (Gatineau), Quebec. Nerds love The Fifth Estate, if you couldn't already tell.

[@createone100]

Excellent investigation! I can never feel complacent about the depth of evil that exists in this world. As for Hanks, the ‘private investigator’, he is totally complicit in evil, no matter how much he whines.

[@sarahraisingmyvoice]

Why is RJ so incredibly likable? He seems like a genuinely good guy at the end of the day.

[@rolandeli1473]

you prolly dont care at all but does anybody know of a trick to log back into an instagram account? I somehow forgot my account password. I love any assistance you can give me

[@dakarieaston9442]

@Roland Eli Instablaster =)

[@rolandeli1473]

@Dakari Easton thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm in the hacking process atm. Takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@hammerhome7879]

33:42 Centralized control of information is the best way to know if your going to get CAUGHT ... Absolute power corrupts , absolutely

[@stfuplsok]

*you're

[@roseharvey2664]

Can't believe Ramos was traced by his cellphone signal! Really couldn't he use a more secure phone.

[@taradeleeuw2344]

Thanks Bob

[@ben_west]

This is so messed up... How the heck did this guy get so much power and access to information. Why should anyone trust the RCMP now?

[@taradeleeuw2344]

Disruptive work place is the game ,sorting out

[@melanieking4357]

if these are the actions of our "best and brightest" we are in real trouble. No morals or ethics just good old fashionned plain greed. smh : ( I am Australian and The Fifth Estate is one of my favourite go to for investigative journalsim. Cheers Love the fact you enable the comment section as well.

[@vanessashaw6912]

So, for want of a shiny new Range Rover these men literally put millions of people's lives at risk. Maybe for Vincent this was the motivation but not for Cameron. It runs deeper. With his level of expertise and intelligence "the smartest guy in the room" could have achieved anything he wanted. What he wanted had nothing to do with brand new Range Rovers. Those "toys" did not interest him. He lived too modestly for that. What he wanted was an adrenaline rush..... power... and most importantly....respite from boredom. At some point being the smartest guy in the room was a given. It ceased to be the ego buster it once was .... long ago. Then he found it. The perfect outlet. His need, combined with his lack of humility made this cloak and dagger adventure the perfect solution. So he went for it.

[@chlomyster8526]

Good analogy quite a fall from grace for Cameron. Can't imagine being so smart working at your dream job, after completing your PhD, yet can't pay down his student debt and throws it all away to help a guy that's assisting criminal gangs. You can't make this up.

[@kazkk_87]

How I envy ppl like him. He would make a great friend for me. Imagine the great knowledge of history and humanity these ppl could teach you.

[@LUImusic856]

Was just thinking the same exact thing lmao

[@ronfirek5824]

The 5th estate the best! BLESSINGS

[@V.Oakley]

So your not allowed to sell phones, that can send messages that protects people's privacy. All devices should be like that. All people should have one.

[@KneeJerkReactions13]

Man they didn't let us have the internet for nothing. The whole thing has been a giant data mine.

[@jadedjane6241]

Maybe start paying people who are so important better. How is this guy, at 40 years old and the top of Canadian intelligence still paying off his student debts when that's what made him good enough for his job. Usually people like that, for example judges, have a high enough salary to not be easily bribed.

[@MrLoobu]

In every job I've ever had there is markedly less scrutiny as people move up the ladder, doing less and less working making more and more money and suddenly more underlings to scapegoat and get fired lol.

[@scotcam1940]

If Ortiz was the “smartest guy in the room”and he is jailed for treason what does that say about the others in the room?

[@matthew-jy5jp]

I love this channel. Great investigation journalism. You all do a incredible job getting the truth to the public. You are all just as good as politico or frontline on PBS. I watch every episode. I'm American but i appreciate the hard work you all do.

[@beMERRYforlife]

Please investigate the disappearance of Terrance Woods, Jr. in Idaho. He was working for Discovery on Dave's Lost Mines - and - just ran down the mountain! He's from Baltimore! On Dr. Phil, the top cop said - he trusted the people he asked! Where is Terrance! What Happened To Our Boy?!?!?! We work with his Dad - and the family has been decimated - Where Is Terrance, Jr.?

[@__itsRobin]

Watching this case “ uncovered “ with a lot of smirks. We know that there’s always 2 sides of a story, but in most investigations in “criminal tv shows” they always have the criminal profiling that were narrated by the host, or by the team member of “the good good” side of the law. And sometimes they weren’t add up. For example, 03:01 - the host said “he traveled widely and learned Mandarin,” but @ 31:28 his boss said he rarely traveled? A spy traveled a lot am I right? And his colleague call him James Bond and the lady from CIA call it “Icarus effects” to actually painted him as spy? Because he doesn’t fit the 3 characteristics of a spy so he was so consumed with his intelligence so he can outlaw the crimes? This person made his final thesis (1999) abt the Dark side of the Internet and spent his entire career to that subject but then he simply just emailed his alleged crimals offering to Ramoz? What?? Seriously it doesn’t make sense anyone who can talk abt his main reason to turn bad is just denied the interview for no reason but he is everywhere in the earlier clips. Idk this man can simply were framed by some higher authority as the found encrypted computer in his apartment thst were finally used against him. But what if he was abt to expose the real bad people instead? Those CIA or his own company higher authorities that has far darker agenda?We don’t know his real story except those that were told, but not by him. ( that weren’t really so convincing) even the guy who did the grave photoshoped photos didn’t believe it. *That photoshop photos also were bad anyway. I hope someone that personally really know this man, is somewhere writing about him and his side of story in for his memoirs. I am inpatiently waiting.

[@gumbootcloggers8330]

He's in jail. The turd is sleeping a lot better.

[@stevehall9256]

Well said. The criminality of government is infinity worse than this Clark Kent. Pedophiles rule us but bikers bad

[@stanweaver6116]

Notice that the criminal wore the exact same glasses as the superior who was singing his praises. Flattery will get you anywhere. That’s why one should suspect flattery if it has any possible motive other than realistic acknowledgment of something particular, well done.

[@felicityishome8460]

Missed you Bob!

[@freedomlife3623]

Who? You mean the formal RCMP head who protected those sexual Predators in RCMP?

[@pelicanphuucker4life]

Now...these days, the Sinaloa Cartel look like angels compared to their replacements.

[@paulsaul2487]

You realize Paulson just admitted to monitoring Canadian citizens communications

[@janskacel9480]

As far as I understand, it works like the USA watches Canada and Canada watches the USA. That way no intelligence agency is monitoring its own citizens, but after an exchange of data, they have access to it.

[@MrLoobu]

@@janskacel9480 make sure to write for your audience. Which is always the government.

[@paulsaul2487]

@@janskacel9480 Five Eyes.........equals a zillion lies

[@kbrickorion2960]

Thanx i really wanted to see this episode.

[@hookbeak3516]

Cameron Ortis intelligence operative to RCMP worked for personal gain, who thought he was above scrutiny & the law. This documentary was highly informative, but also ridiculed the inadequacy of RCMP recruitment. They only re-scrutinise staff every 5 years, think of the potential damage to a country's security, over 5 years by a rogue agent who's undetected?? Edward Snowden (former N.S.A) made it known to the general public at large, how Five Eyes ( Intelligence Agencies - U.K, U.S, Canada, Australia, N.Z ) have been spying on us all, in a bid to slow down the threat of terrorism. Its unlikely he will return to the U.S -he's just received his Russian citizenship status, having been in exile since 2013. Snowden's actions were selfless & for the greater good unlike that of Ortis. There ought to be a part two this compelling story.

[@erik.hansen]

RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson... "His name was Robert Paulson", Fight Club.

[@johnkenny694]

My friend was in the RCMP and was mentally insane, how he got in there is unreal!! ended up living on the streets.

[@nickisnyder3450]

wow explains a lot

[@harleyadams4551]

You wouldn’t believe the way that criminal organization (RCMP) respect women. If one is to judge the criminal organization on their ACTIONS.

[@johnkenny694]

@@harleyadams4551 I remember 50 women were taking them to court for sexual harresment, bulling, charges.

[@harleyadams4551]

@@johnkenny694 The book 22 Murders on the Nova Scotia shootings tells me all I need to know on the upper management (crime bosses) thoughts on the safety of both their own officers on the ground, and towards the public in general. Very very untrustworthy people at the top of that tax payer funded CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION.

[@sheilabernadetteclairemcin1107]

That private investigator Is no victim.

[@issafula]

I love me some Bob🥺. He’s so good!

[@wes5977]

Brenda lucky is one of the stupidest rcmp commissioners we have ever had

[@Master-ne2rb]

How come the genius ortis the guy that is so smart and runs nicc sends a traceable email to reymos alerting him of case against him while he knows that reymos is under investigation and the email might be found? he has no motive to jeopardize his high ranking job. something smells here. was he not useful anymore? did his co workers that had complains against him before set him up ? or did he uncovered things he shouldn't ?

[@twatts1523]

Seems to me he was uncovering things he shouldn’t. He was probably going to pull an Edward Snowden.

[@julianholman7379]

The Fifth Estate *really* needs to update this piece, because it looks like Cameron Ortis may have been caught doing his job of fighting cybercrime. But he is still in Prison, because all the relevant evidence in this case is top secret !! How kafkaesque is that

[@krissy8045]

Love watching fifth estate on youtube and just love this show, krissy from beautiful b.c.

[@danielerhaben1895]

Mhm hey sexy

[@canadapainter658]

Well done,,,, BRAVOOOOOOOOOO The Fifth Estate