The Sopranos: "Proshai, Livushka"

The Sopranos Season 3 Episode 2 "Proshai, Livushka" review.
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[@heyheytaytay]

"She really hated Janice, just like everyone else." is lowkey hilarious and on point.

[@sidewinder714]

Definitely hate her more than Ralphie and Livia.

[@jeffgillson]

That was brutal. Spot on, but brutal.

[@mards2479]

Lmfaoooo

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

Like that avatar too

[@67marlins81]

Equally brutal but honest: where Kino flat-out calls Ralphie what he really is....a P.O.S.....

[@barbraseville8984]

Barbara serves exactly that purpose: she proves any of them COULD get out, they just had to want to. She probably doesnt have a mcmansion or private schools for the kids, but there are no hits out on her, her husband, or kids. She ended the cycle of misery.

[@ZennyReacts]

Wow never even gave Barbara a thought. Good point!

[@joelglanton6531]

YWNBAW

[@pharaohsmagician8329]

Very well said. Damn I gotta consider stuff like that more too. I complain about Tony and my own family alot but I don't always find good stuff like that, to look for some good endings and positive outcomes

[@ChamonixHouse884]

Furio might of had the most realistic coked out face I’ve ever seen

[@BudSchnelker]

Better than Ray Liotta in Goodfellas?

[@damiannichols1250]

Better than Seth Rogen?

[@johnnyedge9594]

Yeah whoo....., Better than my face wiggin....., Lol.....!!!!!!!!

[@theopenmouth9695]

you should see mine i’ve spent years honing it with method acting

[@Sernival]

@@damiannichols1250 Everything is better than that guy

[@esquilax5563]

Christopher's funeral speech may be the funniest moment of the entire show. It's up there with anything from Pine Barrens

[@aeoey5251]

I think what he was saying was that there will never be anyone like her.

[@esquilax5563]

@@aeoey5251 but, like, how do they *know* that?

[@aeoey5251]

@@esquilax5563 they don’t because he was just rambling high

[@retiredguy7273]

Rewatching in 2023 totally agree with you! He and Adriana played it perfectly for the camera.

[@barbraseville8984]

I love Carmella gets hopped up on cordials and drops the hammer. I re-watch it all the time

[@stevencoffin328]

Carmella's telling the truth about Livia is probably my favorite moment with her.

[@zackstpierre2562]

And Hugh

[@Schyderap]

Whole sequence with reminiscing about Livia is dark comedy gold.

[@Lucky4OU]

100% agree. The first time I saw the scene, when Hugh asked Mary "What are you, The Minister of Propaganda?" I about pissed myself laughing. The whole scene is greatness.

[@willnailer2118]

At least she didn't suffer.

[@Schyderap]

@@Lucky4OU plus Chrissy's rumblings "on my MUDDAS WAKE"

[@Boobalopbop]

One of the best sequences! Janice being so phony and literally everyone is just wtf, is this B for real? 🤣🤣🤣

[@mayaram2411]

Apparently, no one could keep it together when they were filming this scene. Multiple actors have said so on Talking Sopranos.

[@miroslavjakubik7048]

My 3 favorite"No more" phrases are: No more fire. No more Butchie, no more of this. No more shines Billy.

[@isaacster5027]

Maybe you ain't heard. You been away a long time

[@Aivottaja]

Frankie Marino: No more!

[@berry11756]

@@isaacster5027 no one came up there to tell you

[@albanui6354]

One of the trucks...

[@sportaflop169]

@@isaacster5027 relax I'm just breaking balls

[@bcmoney5272]

I'm happy livia got to go peacefully in her sleep.She was a saint and she deserved nothing but the best!😭

[@pancakes1271]

She gave her life to her children on a silver platter!

[@lastlaff2777]

They buried her on a hill, by a river, with pine cones all around.

[@ease3784]

@@lastlaff2777 really??

[@thewalkingquadriplegic7857]

It's gonna b a while before I eat anything at Satriales

[@tonysoprano9864]

I loved her too

[@novadhd]

The Svetlana character was one of the best small parts of the series. Wish they had her longer. The leg/record feud with Janice was classic. Keep up the great videos.

[@chasejordan9295]

I thought so as well ahah, definitely thought they shoulda gone further with it

[@salbonpensiero1704]

She always had one foot out the door during the series. When Chase decided not to bring her back she didn't really have a leg to stand on.

[@chasejordan9295]

@@salbonpensiero1704 I see what ya did there lol

[@wadewilson8011]

She wasn't the most glamorous or beautiful woman on the show. However, she was absolutely the CUTEST one on the show. Those freckles and smile were just adorable. If I were Tony I'd "smash, hit it, do her" too!

[@eieiolsen]

The leg feud? I don’t remember anything about that. Although I do remember Janice talking about Svetlana’s “laeg”, that’s for sure.

[@jace4294]

Kino knows a thing or two about clearing bongs🤣

[@fadeblac5633]

🤣😂

[@Mav3D67]

clearing bongs and watching the sopranos is a fucking lifestyle

[@shrim1481]

He knows a copula three things about it.

[@jordandavis6635]

Christopher Did Dint know how to use the bong.

[@BillBraskyy]

Yeeeeahhh DUDE! hahaha

[@brigadierblue221]

I loved Svetlana One of my fave side characters

[@bigjj7017]

And side piece too

[@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283]

Janice stole her leg. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha EDIT: Her GOOD leg 🦵 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[@67marlins81]

Brigadier Blue......she did have a beautiful face.

[@elliotthedissident6077]

@@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283 *In heavy Russian accent* Fuck you, you are callous.

[@svargyle]

Svetlana was a true badass.

[@modularmuse]

Svetlana showed real respect, the title reflects that and she wore no makeup at Livia's funeral.

[@cornerofthemoon]

No one could say "Bullshit!" with the conviction of Carmela's dad.

[@jaubuchon28]

BOOLSHIT

[@smellsuperb1]

He says it with venom 😂💀

[@dudelebowskithe2nd373]

Aida Turturro was amazing as Janice. An absolute psycho and would do anything to get what she wants. Even betraying Tony. Like in The second season with Richie. Very convincing performance

[@nick1834]

@Johnny Testinator just makes you hate janice even more 🤦‍♂️ you’re right

[@nirvanalama8493]

Seems like this could be a Anti-Janice (effn hate Janice) club right here. I swear the amount of hate I had for this cunt of a character only further proves the amazing talent of the actress who plays her. Just goes to show how much of a great actor she is. But not just her acting, the writers as well.

[@00_00.1]

I always saw her as a female version of tony

[@RonsaRRR]

​@@00_00.1Tony didn't want to kill her sister. But she wanted to kill Tony.

[@smfh_]

@@00_00.1shes much much worse tony at least had some redeeming qualities in the earl seasons Janice was just a snake from the beginning

[@thetigerdenpodcast4381]

one of the best lines in the entire series, from this episode, when Janice gathers everyone in the living room, and asks Tony if he'd like to tell them all about how Livia kept his school work and awards but not hers or Barbara's, to which Tony replies: "You just did. Wrap it up, Janice." fucking spectacular.

[@Frankybroadcast]

Great line

[@OneWithinn]

What is so great about that lol

[@thetigerdenpodcast4381]

@@OneWithinn if i have to explain it to you, it's not worth explaining to you.

[@-null-null8857]

​@@thetigerdenpodcast4381the value if the initial line has diminished somewhat it appears

[@robsmith9093]

@@OneWithinn There’s nothing great about it. These people on here are a bunch of nerds and weirdos with no life. So they obsess over little irrelevant details.

[@mikehunt4986]

"She's such a hateable but incredibly written character." Pretty much describes every major character on The Sopranos. David Chase must be one miserable SOB lol

[@lpr5269]

David Chase said that his mom, who Livia is based on, would have been a criminal if she had been born male.

[@mikehunt4986]

@@lpr5269 I guess she was his inspiration for the characters on the show lol

[@Foudedanse]

Honestly I didnt even notice Livia was cgi! She was such a fun character.

[@yannick245]

I didn't notice it either, until I've watched it in high-def.

[@kingstarscream320]

@fabRic_jAck Most people don’t obsess over irrelevant details.

[@omgpix]

@acooknamed_Rishi I originally watched sopranos on a shitty TV. Easy to miss unless you knew she'd die or were really focusing on her hair, with all the scene switches it's kinda easy to get lost in the detail. I remember thinking there was something off about it though. When I re-watched it on my computer years later I could notice stuff like the texture and lighting being off.

[@Je-Vette]

I noticed it on regular tv back in the day and it looks very uncanny valley to me, bordered on icky

[@wadewilson8011]

I'm surprised people didn't notice? Her hair changes between every shot. Look at the part in her hair, it changes. And the KZbinr is too harsh on the CGI. This was back in 2001/02 (literally 20 years ago). He's acting like the CGI technology should be on a 2022 level. I hate when millennials and Zoomers expect older things to be fresh like what they're used to.

[@Negajoe]

I feel like Livia's death allowed her to become a more tormenting figure to Tony in his psyche than if she carried on. Now he'd forever have doubts as to her intentions and questions left unanswered as to her true feelings, and a source of misery in his life he'll never come to terms with. In the final episode with the new psychiatrist he's still harping on about his mother.

[@67marlins81]

Interesting point.....and most people would have forgotten what you mentioned about Tony still bringing up his mother with the new psychiatrist....

[@brennanc4321]

Latter on we see alot of his disdain for his mother is a result of him not being able to acknowledge his father faults, by season five he begins to see that Johnny made her that way.

[@67marlins81]

@@brennanc4321 I can believe that.

[@gfx2943]

Would have been even more so if they had been able to pursue the original story idea before the actress passed on. Robbing Tony of the satisfaction of offing his mom would have been even more psychologically strange.

[@roguebritgravy1]

I would've liked to see Livia in more of the sopranos. Sounded like we were in for a tense court drama originally. Would have been fun to see. Rip Nancy Marchand

[@Andre-by4su]

oh poor you!

[@roguebritgravy1]

@@Andre-by4su 😂

[@lewiskazinsky7334]

It would’ve definitely been tense. Livia playing up the senile angle to toy around with the defence (and by extension Tony) would’ve had me gritting my teeth. I imagine her mind games would backfire, with the judge dismissing her as an unfit witness and Tony locking her up in a state home. That would’ve been a far more satisfying end to this monster of a woman.

[@roguebritgravy1]

@@lewiskazinsky7334 My thoughts exactly. That should have been the season 3 we needed. But I have to admit that the rest of the series handled her departure and the other course of its main character very well.

[@AntiMullahs]

​@@roguebritgravy1 she was a saint Livia?

[@Internaz]

And no one finds out that Raymond Curto is an FBI informer. Whe he dies, they say: "there's no guys like him anymore. An old school stand-up guy". Fucking funny the irony...

[@rentfreeinheads8995]

They were way tooooo fuckung slow at figuring out rats and gossip speaders. Shit pissed me off

[@johncconnolly1]

I think David Chase left a shadow of a doubt that Livia actually wanted Tony dead. She may have, but she may also have had a bit of dementia. Likewise, later on, we really don't know if Uncle Junior had really lost his marbles, or was he playing for an insanity defense in his upcoming RICO trial. Chase is a genius in subtly letting the viewer make up his/her own mind on things, as he famously did in the final scene. On the other hand, Junior absolutely wanted Tony dead in the early going, so he used Livia to sort of validate his thoughts.

[@KC______]

But in the last season after Tony was shot and Junior was in the psych hospital, Junior shows signs more and more of having some sort of mental disorder. After the Asian kid attacks and injuries Junior it seems like Junior has become seriously incapacitated. Iirc Junior is pretty much written out of the show and never seen again.

[@Mainlyeverything]

Livia was faking dementia in season 1. Lol she pretend to not know who meadow was so tony didn't think her and junior were in it together Livia probably wanted tony dead for a second but was just using it to manipulate junior Junior definitely had dementia by the end because the show set up all the potential endings for tony End up dead like Phil. Or go to prison due to carlo being a rat. Ending up line junior, all alone with no family to visit. Or end up like paulie, alive but no one actually there for him. All a big nothing

[@nirvanalama8493]

For me, Livia did want her son dead. The reason that made me sure of it was the scene where Livia and Junior is watching the news of Tony surviving the attack. When Junior asks Livia what really going on, Livia says that Tony was attacked and managed to "get away". The choice of words she used, (i.e: escape) proves that she really wanted him dead. She could've used the words, "survived" or "fought off" etc. But she said "GOT AWAY", which points out that he wasn't supposed to escape, that he was supposed to die in that hit. Anyway, this my opinion though. I could be wrong.

[@RonsaRRR]

​@@KC______Junior appear in the last episode and talk with Tony.

[@rustykuntz94]

Carmella's Dad Hugh was the star at the in house wake. "OH DON'T GIVE ME THAT, BULLSHIT! You wanted it you got it."

[@animecrunchtime]

I do find it interesting that forms of Livia still linger throughout the story. It’s a shame of what happened but it’s neat how they found certain ways to “keep her” in the story. Edit: also Hugh was MVP of this episode.

[@BookshelfQBattler]

Every little character got their moment and this was Hugh’s

[@stefanfilipovits21]

I love the sopranos more than most but does anyone else see the pattern of most of the sopranos? A guy from Tony’s past returns and screws things up until he’s finally killed by a soprano or on soprano orders: Richie, Ralph, Tony B, Phil Leotardo

[@roguebritgravy1]

Ralph and Phil lived for more than one season unlike Richie and Tony B. Ah well. Good characters.

[@isaacster5027]

Yep, I swear it's a sitcom half the time lol

[@hamsters7760]

The cyclical violence and relationships built on bad foundations are kiiiind of integral to the themes of the entire show, so yea, it repeats.

[@histguy101]

Also Feech LaManna It's probably like that in the real mob, too. Every year, some old bastard is getting back out of prison and wants back in the action.

[@furbabydaddy5604]

And there seemed to always be one of those “Dino”types causing trouble.

[@michaelcastillo3231]

I never noticed how many freckles peg leg had. I like.

[@KMcNally117]

In the living room wake scene, the actual homeowners of Tony's house are in the background.

[@matthewmayton1845]

I don't know why, but this episode reminded me of my grandmother's funeral roughly twenty years ago. She wanted to be cremated and didn't want a lavish funeral. In fact, during the wake, she was in an "I'm with Stupid" t-shirt or something like that. That's what she wanted. She was a character. Taught me poker when I was five years old.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

Your grandmother sounds fun. Livia wasn’t.

[@oldandbitter]

Curious why you skipped over Artie's role in this episode. He was ready to expose Tony in front of everyone (because Livia previously told Artie it was Tony who ordered the Vesuvio explosion) right before Carmela's outburst.

[@bentencho]

The suddenly focus towards Hesh when Janice pushed the focus on him was hilarious. He had that "WTF?!" look, lol.

[@trapnupe1911]

"I'll use ALL my powers...ALL my skills!" Tony: "Hey, let's not go crazy eh." 🤣🤣🤣 C'mon, Kino. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@MrTCHOSS]

Ralph Cifaretto (Joe Pantalioni) stole every scene he was in, no matter who else was in it.

[@smellsuperb1]

Because Joe Pantoliano is such an amazing actor. Even in films like "Midnight Run" and "The Fugitive".

[@SuperCosty2010]

Pantoliano is wonderful in every role he's in - Baby's Day Out, Matrix, Bad Boys franchise, Memento, you name it. Cifaretto though is just an annoying piece of shit

[@MrTCHOSS]

@@smellsuperb1 I forgot Midnight Run. Yes great movie and great in that role.

[@MarcTony914]

The moment between Tony and Artie in the backyard was great also. Drunk Artie still pissed at Tony about blowing up Vesuvio, and the secret dying with Tony’s mom

[@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283]

The secret didn’t die with Livia. She TOLD Artie. So the secret is still “alive”.

[@MarcTony914]

@@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283 Very true, I was more so referring to when Artie tells Tony that the secret dies with her but he’s pissed

[@rileyvonbevern4652]

Tony never did anything to vesuvio

[@ashutoshmisra4]

There was a scene where Hesh is telling this story of a guy's funeral where nobody's got a good thing to say and somebody from the back goes, "his brother was worse". They're all laughing but become serious as Tony walks by. It really made me laugh.

[@commiegobbledygook3138]

Honestly, I'm a bigger fan of the post Livia's death plotlines. It's a great way to end her arc, she has no chance for redemption or punishment. That must have lingered over Tony's head and drove him even more crazy subconsciously.

[@twiztidlestat]

''didn't have really good weed etiquette''. Bro, that single line earned you a sub, that shit is hilarious

[@atlasking6110]

"Moolinyan" = eggplant "Ditsoon" =charcoal briquet

[@Aivottaja]

Third supernatural (or at least weird) moment in the same episode is the old guy coming down the stairs and deciding to avoid going to the living room for the Livia reminiscing.

[@petepehl]

So who was this guy?

[@Route32rg]

I think this was another ghost like Big Pussy. Did you notice the person on the stairs was blindfolded? Never noticed before until I saw it on my 4ktv with upscaling.

[@jamesstewart7736]

I'm so glad I watched this video. I always wondered why they wrote out Liv when they did. It didn't even occur to me she died in real life. Also I didn't know about the CGI and didn't spot anything off about that scene. Says more about Gandolfini's acting than anything. Great content as always.

[@thetruth72667]

Yea holy shit I had no clue it was cgi & I still can't tell. I guess I'm bad at spotting it lol.

[@VIMaggotVIBrainzVI]

@@thetruth72667 Some shots look better than others, admittedly, but once you see how inconsistent the ambient lighting on Livia's head is compared to the rest of the scene, it'll be impossible to unsee.

[@thetruth72667]

@@VIMaggotVIBrainzVI Yes I have seen it since writing that. Very odd when you finally see it. What a great job she did in this role. What's crazy is that she was very sick while filming this show. Her James & Eide were beyond phenomenal in their roles. The entire cast was great but they were just unreal. Such a shame James passed away so young. Hope they are both RIP.

[@drivernephi2212]

I didn't initially realize it was CGI, but when the character interaction was so (uncharacteristically for Sopranos) hollow, meaningless and unnatural it just weirded me out and I had to go check what was up with that episode.

[@dasdeke]

Easily one of my favorite episodes. It was sad to see the actress pass away but good on David Chase for respecting her wishes and having her work up till her passing. I'd forgotten the supernatural moments. I enjoyed this introduced a lot of side characters. The sharing scene easily was one of my favorite scenes just because of the dark humor behind it. Great review like always!

[@daveyboy_]

The best part of that episode is at the wake at the house when Janet starts to speak u see a guy coming down the stairs then turn around lmao

[@Void7.4.14]

I think they actually redid the CGI of Livia, but I'm not sure. I remember it being extremely bad and almost creepy with this blurred floating head effect the first time I saw it. But watching it later it didn't seem nearly as bad, but still bad for sure. They did several reshoots of scenes cause an actor left or David didn't like the way it aired so there's actually several things that are different from the original airing and the DVDs and reruns. Which is wild cause they swapped out several characters and didn't change anything (Tony's sister is a big one, Dr. Fried I think is another, Joe Gannascoli playing at least 2 different characters as did several other actors, etc,) but when Fairuza Balk backed out of playing the undercover fed that Adrianna gets caught up with they had the scenes she did reshot lol Apparently there's more but I don't know and can't remember many right now. Just speaks to the attention to detail and where they places emphasis. Either way, it was a huge loss. RIP Nancy Marchand. David Chase said they'd initially written her out at the end of season 1 with either Tony smothering her or her not surviving her stroke (I can't remember what his version was exactly) but that she asked him to keep her working til she died and he obliged. She was great. Such a hateable character which says a lot cause everyone that knew her said it couldn't have been further from who she actually was as a person.

[@GuerreroDelInfo]

i never realized it was cgi so it must've been good and not noticeable

[@inmyhumbleopinion_]

That clearing the bong/weed etiquette observation is hilarious

[@melmc9672]

Nancy Marchands death is what gave Janices Character life-until Her death there were no plans for Janice to ever return-

[@danielmcallister4816]

I spotted the weed etiquette too. This is the analysis we need. Love your work man.

[@seanbrazell6147]

Its hard to watch Tony pass out knowing how he died in real life. The final cut to black series finale scene is so much darker and deeply unsettling for the same reason.

[@cita623]

So sad ur right RIP JG

[@DaveSCameron]

You are onto a good thing here and you can rest easy knowing your work and efforts are shining brightly, many thanks from Cambridge, England.

[@PureKino]

Wow, thank you! I actually studied for a summer in Cambridge at Peterhouse. One of the coolest experiences of my life!

[@DaveSCameron]

@@PureKino Yay and what a small world (Not to mention this being a small city!) appreciate the reply and again I must thank you and keep it flowing my mate..

[@retiredguy7273]

All the literature, everybody likes to make a big deal out of the CGI scene. I never Even noticed until I read it somewhere. I think it's just fine.

[@InJuRiOuSbEaTs95]

Same. I just found out right now. Lol

[@bassman8144]

Dude thank you for calling out their horrible bong smoking!! They’re not even clearing it!! Didn’t anyone on set toke before? Funny though that they can convincingly snort blow and shoot up....tells ya something. Great job on your videos, I love them!!

[@cavierjohnson3797]

Them not clearing the bong always bugged TF outta me lmaoo

[@rogueprince1341]

When your done with The Sopranos you should cover The Wire next.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

AWESOME idea

[@joelbizzell1386]

Mad Men, then Wire. 😉

[@Andre-by4su]

that would be the best possible thing that can happen on KZbin

[@piccoloxnailxkami3617]

I fourth this idea, also I wish they did more with Brother Mouzone in the wire, he was my favorite character besides Omar.

[@evanb2437]

Kino covering the wire my god I would love that.

[@schrisdellopoulos9244]

Agreed about the weakness of the CGI. It stunned me as I watched it for the first time. It was likely an idea made by emotion, the feelings Chase & Co. had for Nancy Marchand. When we make decisions based on emotion, they are often not our best. Having said that, don't we think this was likely the best CGI available at that time or was $250K a cheap out?

[@owenmb984]

There was definitely better CGI at the time. Look at sci-fi or fantasy films from that time like the matrix or lord of the rings. But that would have been a lot more expensive and time consuming to include. Also for lots of people watching on shitty TVs the CGI wasn't that noticeable

[@sushi0hifi]

My grandma (my mom’s mom) just passed away four days ago 😔 I downloaded this episode onto my phone for comfort ❤️ Ironically, my grandma was the exact opposite of Livia 😂 she was happy and loved her family very much, including her kids and grandkids

[@PureKino]

I'm sorry for your loss!

[@sushi0hifi]

@@PureKino Thank you so much my dude ❤️ I’m so sad she’s gone, but I’m glad she’s not in pain anymore and reunited with grandpa and her loved ones

[@Danny_Boel]

Alla Kliouka (Svetlana) is really drop dead gorgeous ❤

[@67marlins81]

Danny Boel - I agree.....I never noticed until Kino's post here, to be honest. Since you probably paid good attention to her character, can you confirm.....Svetlana did NOT steal Livia's records, correct? Livia gave them to Svetlana out of kindness/ gratitude, is that true?

[@novadhd]

@@67marlins81 yes supposedly

[@smellsuperb1]

Agreed. Sneakily hot.

[@CTuna-uo3pq]

This is one of the best episodes. Awesome acting. RIP Nancy Marchand.

[@fozzersman]

Such a shame that Nancy passed away, reckon she could of added so much to the show. But that's selfish I guess she was the main boss of season 1 played wonderfully by her.

[@BrokeActionFilms]

I won't lie Ralph is my favorite character, it's good to finally see him

[@isaacster5027]

Spiritual successor to richie done very well ✅

[@pretorious700]

Panteleone was awesome in this part.

[@DeanWhipper]

She was a how-ah

[@youthofyesterdayrecords]

He's the devil.. 🤭

[@timothyo718]

Ah the Hasidic Homeboy’s first scene!

[@donjuanmckenzie4897]

Jamal Ginsberg

[@JakeandElwoodBlues]

DeShawn Rabinowitz

[@notsojoerogan]

You're lucky I don't punch your lights out

[@TheLordisTheHopeOfIsrael]

Tyrone Rosenblatt

[@mexicangomez31]

Charcoal briquet

[@KidFresh71]

Interesting that Tony has his panic attack after seeing a package of Uncle Ben rice. Chase is such a good writer, that nothing unfolds by accident. Does Uncle Ben symbolize something about Tony's racial bigotry? And yeah, what a shame about that dated CGI- worst moment in the Soprano's series. And yet still overall a great episode.

[@gfx2943]

The reality of that CGI is they all probably thought it was amazing in 2001.

[@practicaliching2311]

Tony is not a racist. He is just protecting his family. The Soprano's are from Newark for Pete's sake. Their entire family was ethnically cleansed out of Newark by black people. Wow, what, do you not know what happened to the French settlers in Haiti. Or the white farmers in Africa who had their kids shot by black troops to drive them off their farms. Or all the white families in the US who were ethnically cleansed out of whole cities like Detroit and black people are living in their houses and churches, and businesses that they lost and their whole family was uprooted and scattered to the wind. When you say stuff like that. It makes you sound incredibly naive.

[@tonysoprano9864]

I love those supernatural moments. They're like the seasoning on a great meal.

[@soakedjuggler]

I didn’t even know it was CGI holy shit

[@suggestiveguy]

Me neither,I thought it looked great,idk

[@ameralej]

its weird bc rewatching it on hbo max the cgi doesnt look as bad as the clip in the video

[@eduazy]

The dialogue doesn't make any sense anyway, it's just reused quotes that don't fit the context at all

[@DownClownTownFrown]

Yeah I didn’t know until I watched this. Once it’s pointed it it’s obvious but I think it looks pretty good.

[@sean5558]

You’re serious? You didn’t see how weird her head looked on her body

[@nagger8216]

The most bizarre thing about this episode was that I actually gained a little respect for Carmela when she was being honest about Livia

[@eriktatos]

Furio hitting that bong ….my favorite sopranos moment

[@TomFooleryTheAustere]

Your breakdowns add perspective into my own psyche sometimes. I’ve watched the (Sopranos) series easily a half dozen times and I still get a little excited when you post. Your channel is fun!

[@PureKino]

Glad to hear it!

[@dkamphaus43]

I always felt the way Ralph was introduced on this show was weird and out of nowhere considering the fact that up until this episode he's never been seen before and he's immediately being treated as all important and pushed to the forefront. I've often wondered if it had anything to do with Nancy Marchand's death since it's been pretty well established that that kind of threw a monkey wrench into David Chase's plans for this season and possibly the remainder of the series as well.

[@erichodge567]

You're right: the attempt to use CGI in that scene with Tony and his mother was the weakest bit in the whole series. Their backs were against the wall, though: they had to close her storyline somehow.

[@frak4981]

But the CGI did nothing to close the storyline since she still dies off screen anyway

[@erichodge567]

@@frak4981 , hmm...good point.

[@alphashaitan65]

Boy, do I feel like an idiot. I did not recognize that Livia was CGI in this episode.

[@guyguy3203]

Could of got more in depth with this one. What about the crappy man that walks down the stairs and arrive about to tell everyone about the restaurant. Very cool character and supernatural moments there.

[@jmoney4708]

To think of how supportive you were during the whole carmine fiasco

[@colina1330]

I actually had no idea about the CGI Livia thing. I never noticed. Then again, I didn't watch the series in HD, so maybe that's why I didn't catch that. You just blew my mind.

[@thej2241]

Hugh absolutely losing it at the wake is one of my favourite scenes in this episode

[@sevenoctobers7471]

Aida Turturro really brought Janice to life. You can see how Janice's upbringing fucked her up, hence, her sense of entitlement (to her mother's money, to Tony's money and status). She grew up thinking she was Johnny Boy's favorite, thinking she was a mafia princess. She hates the fact that she has to beg or work or be under someone else's thumb when she previously got away with shit just because she was Johnny Boy's daughter. Aida played her splendidly. Props to the writers who built a character like Janice.

[@pointcuration1278]

Tony, at Chris' intervention, yelling at him for being high at his mother’s wake: D:< Furio and Ade at the same intervention: _>.

[@slicktop2jz855]

Boardwalk Empire next.

[@travismiles5885]

I'm still not over Jimmy getting killed.

[@enak413]

Tony forgot to get the DNR for his mother ... So he compromised and she got CGI instead .

[@SkyrimPacman]

Good thing Livia’s friend forgot whatever happened there with the car...

[@smellsuperb1]

💀🤣

[@barbraseville8984]

That's what I thought. Your best friend hit you with her car, sis.

[@twistedpossum2187]

Great to see Ralphie make his first appearance. My favorite character in the series and is such a great contrast to Tony

[@murrayp4]

While reminiscing in the big room there is a great moment where you can see in the back ground (blurred) someone comes down the stairs (looks like Uncle Jnr.). When he sees whats going in he high tails it back up the stairs to avoid the awfulness of it all 🤣

[@Buford_T_Justice1]

Those sorry assed bong hits took me right out of the moment. I couldn’t suspend my disbelief.

[@RIPCompanionCube]

me too! so weak

[@furbabydaddy5604]

Not to mention Adriana’s voice.

[@superlee8953]

Pure Kino Vids & OG Kush Bong Rips.. They Always Go Together.. Your Attention To Detail: È Bellissimo!

[@davethomas543]

Not to mention they left the sticker they come with inside the bong . Also I never knew that was CGI until you just pointed it out .

[@paulgardner5079]

chrissy's speech at the wake was eloquent on the level of the gettysburg address

[@charliederuyter7181]

I actually did not notice the CGI when I watched this episode for the first time

[@StylzGTNT]

Noah is probably the only one that said "Fuck you" to Tony like that and lived to tell about it.

[@tysonmccorkle1036]

not only that, Tony's lucky he didn't get his fkin lights punched out

[@StylzGTNT]

@@tysonmccorkle1036 LMAO! I know right, lucky Tony

[@pennystocklocks]

@@tysonmccorkle1036 Noah secretly telling us how the series was gonna end

[@SuperCosty2010]

I noticed it by the time I was watching Season 6, like OMG, that guy being not liked by Tony from the very beginning also said "fuck you" and what did he get? Pointed at with the newspaper and politely guided from the house, that was all. That would be unthinkable for the monster Tony became in the 6th season

[@GenerationXNews]

That’s not cgi- it’s just old footage.

[@masterzombie161]

Janice is without a doubt the absolute worst person on the show filled with murderers and extortionists.

[@cherchil]

yep

[@vicinvesta8349]

Well, Richie Aprile! When the most hated character whacked another most hated character, it was a total joy. These are the absolute scumbags in the show (according to me): Richie Aprile Janice Ralphie Cifarettos Paulie Gualtieri There is big gap between Ralphie and Paulie. But these are the characters I could not stand.

[@River_wylde]

***correction it wasnt the uncle bens he goes over this with later in therapy it was the meat

[@cornerofthemoon]

This is one of my favorite Sopranos episodes. I don't think the Livia scene was really CGI (Maybe they composited her head on a stand in's body in a seated position for a few seconds) But it was mostly just old school editing mish mash of old clips and a stand in for Livia's back side. Notice how her hair kept changing. It was almost as bad as Ed Wood trying to resurrect Bela Legosi. I'm surprised they didn't try to bring in some recorded lines from deleted scenes as I think all of them were used in previous episodes but maybe they just couldn't find any that fit.

[@95brickhaus14]

I appreciate how you acknowledge their disrespect to cannabis etiquette. They do not have the making of varsity stoners

[@Vanished_Mostly]

4:05 Did you and Tony say "shit" at the same time? I don't remember what he said there, but it kinda looks like it.

[@Outliers4Life]

definitely not good weed etiquette

[@fadeblac5633]

I don't know why. But, I love most of these characters. I'm glad you mentioned the Bong🤣.

[@DarchiFilms0]

The worst part about the Livia scene for me is not the CGI but rather the disjointed nature of the conversation. The way they use exact lines from the exact takes that aired in previous episodes is so distracting, especially if you're binging the show. Maybe the showrunners in the 90s didn't think that people would ever watch episodes back to back to back and so wouldn't notice repeated dialogue. Then again, VHS and DVD releases of the show existed back in the day, no? Perhaps it would have been better if there were deleted scenes or alternate takes of Nancy they could have pulled from so that it's not repeated dialogue. Definitely one of the very few missteps of the show's run but an enormous one at that just because of how bad it is.

[@darkgreenrifleman4871]

Pure kino=Pure commentary

[@ceh4190]

Ohhhhh shit I just clicked on this as soon as it popped up the messed up part was I had finished smoking nope I gotta pack another bowl for you kino I’m glad I had notifications on again thank you kino💜

[@PureKino]

Hopefully you have better smoking etiquette than Chris and crew lol

[@pennystocklocks]

Look at David Chase w/ that CGI.....George Lucas ova here

[@CamiloJamesGuitar]

I love how this episode subtly reveals that Tony's panic attacks are a consequence of his hate, with the whole Noah incident. Such brilliant writing.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

Oh that's it! It wasn't from being a mobster, worrying about going to prison or being killed by his men. Thanks for clearing that up.

[@furbabydaddy5604]

Noah? Really? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. 😂 😂😂😂

[@CamiloJamesGuitar]

@@DrJ-hx7wv Psychologically, fear and hate are two sides of the same coin man.. and as Dr Melfi tells Tony in season 5, depression, (and by extension panic attacks) is rage, (hate) turned inward. So yeh I'm sure all those worries contributed massively to Tony fainting! But my point was that he has a major panic attack right after his racist outburst, which imo cleverly describes how that kind of thing is bound to happen when you live with so much hate/fear and habitually direct it at other, (in this case innocent) people. Therefore the incident with Noah is perhaps just the tipping point, and caused him to short circuit. That's the way I interpreted it anyway. Peace 🙏

[@norwegiantechnolover]

I remember not noticing 8:45 like the first two-three time I watched that episode, even though it's almost smack-bang in the middle of the frame.

[@anthonystrain1817]

“Tony passses out eating gabagool” is the most Italian analysis of sopranos I’ve ever heard

[@Wayf4rer]

The series went from good to great with the introduction of Jamal Ginsberg, the hasidic homeboy.

[@frankviator8315]

The absolute most annoying and punchable character.

[@smellsuperb1]

He was a slimy little weasel, and meadow dated him mostly just to piss Tony off.

[@ALUCARD1983]

Poor livia was living proof as to how carmela was gonna end up because johnny boy was just like tony in regards to infidelity.. Carmela showed signs of resentment towards AJ and meadow as livia did with her kids... Livia was a product of a mafia marriage and it drove her into madness..