The Stakes: The American Monarchy?

[@barrettmelton2422]

Hearing Yarvin's curses get bleeped out actually enhances the personal flare in his philosophy 😂

[@ouss]

They should have beep his umms

[@NyalBurns]

@@ouss and, ‘you knows’,.

[@ChucksExotics]

Cursing is not appropriate.

[@contrastprinciple4389]

I actually enjoy listening to Curtis Yarvin more then I do reading his writings.

[@taylorstuch1469]

Interesting, reading UR and other works by Yarvin have brought me back to reading. I really enjoy his style

[@taylorstuch1469]

@@rfish67 lol i don't mind at all, that's how I talk 😁

[@copudesado]

At least when speaking he occasionally gets to the point

[@DiscipleOfChristDV]

@@taylorstuch1469 I'm like that too lol that's how I know Curtis is a scatterbrain just like me

[@S2Cents]

@@rfish67 it's a little charming. Like a 'differently abled' man that is magnitudes smarter than most people you've come across but their cognitive power is channeled with disregard for normal speaking styles, implying he doesn't care, he's above that.

[@armoredghost6180]

Monarchy would be a huge improvement in governance.

[@jordanperez3282]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@juanme555]

@@rfish67 Everywhere but Switzerland and China.

[@Magicpickle5]

@@juanme555 China is basically a monarchy at this point.

[@RoyalProtectorate]

@@juanme555 China is a Monarchy

[@Acujeremy]

@Awsometime China is an oligarchy.

[@CloverPickingHarp]

Curtis- And judges are going to enforce that law? Anton - Well... Curtis -If we can get to well that fast don't expect me to take it super seriously. Me - roaring belly laughter 🤣🤣

[@quodss]

1:51:00

[@richardbourque5604]

All I have to say is, when your video gets 10x more views than any other of your videos, I would pay attention to that.

[@delocon]

@Claremont Institute - I would pay attention to this guy.

[@Nataliegig]

Yeah, that's why most people follow rather than discover anything.

[@chrisc7265]

I love censoring the traditional swear words as if that makes Curtis family friendly

[@samuelspiel8855]

Our fate is byzantium I think. Relative strength despite constant decline and idiotic civil conflicts.

[@kyleb2892]

Thank you for this! This episode has given much to think about

[@arkology_city]

Monarchist city-state constitution (2 min) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJivooyknLl0hZo

[@androo2300]

When you censor yourselves, it really necessary to use the loudest beep available? Some of us are listening to this on headphones and value our hearing D: Ouch

[@Vgallo]

I love listening to Curtis, but he’s not letting Anton get a word in, not that it’s been done in a mean spirited way, it just sounds like enthusiasm, but I do want to hear antons input.

[@adrowsypoet]

That happened in the JML podcast and TCT interview too. I like Yarvin but he's not great sharing the conversation.

[@aristocraticrebel]

The greatest Western thinkers come from the continent, it's not even close.

[@Secretrectumraisin]

If you imagine this conversation taking place in a packed lecture hall at your university the bleeps are hilarious

[@pkop4]

It's funny the discussion started out with Anton saying the regime could fall soon. Then Yarvin outlines all the steps invovled and Anton is incredulous that anyone could do any of that now..or any time soon. LOL yes, exactly. Though perhaps the biggest takeaway is first we need populist support *wanting* them to do it. We're not even there yet...therefore, regime marches on.

[@CS-mf5un]

Not exactly... You don't exactly need populist support.. you need support from the current regime and then comes populist support.

[@samuelspiel8855]

Our fate is byzantium I think. Relative strength despite constant decline and idiotic civil conflicts.

[@CorneliusHDybdahl]

Populist support is not the first step. First step is to develop the theory, and action plan as Yarvin is doing and organize a counter-elite around it. Only once you have not only the plan, but also a counter-elite ready and able to carry it out will it be the right time to seek popular support. Until then, popular support is a great liability rather than an asset.

[@Maverick-ne3mr]

Hello All fellow monarchists, For God and King!

[@arkology_city]

Monarchist city-state constitution (2 min) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJivooyknLl0hZo

[@QEsposito510]

“This is a family podcast and a family think tank” who are you guys kidding? Just let him swear.

[@docbroom2593]

Excellent and far more reasonable and nuanced than Damon Linker's fear induced commentary on it seems to see.

[@johnford2517]

Which one?

[@davidkey4272]

The issue with this talk is that the Claremont Institute derives prestige and power from the old institutions and regime.

[@zwatwashdc]

Curtis, write a piece on the present and future of education and I will subscribe to your substack.

[@thespanishinquisition8617]

Solid content

[@jamessheffield4173]

Brutus XIV, where he maintained “that the supreme court under this constitution would be exalted above all other power in the government, and subject to no control.

[@libertypraxis]

Epic obscure references. Glad i found this channel jaja

[@ethansplaver]

Monarchy and Carnegie's dream. No racism. War plan red without India or Africa.

[@danwroy]

I love the compression, sounds like a juicy matte line around the speech

[@brucebogtrotter3430]

The next Ceasar is listening to this podcast! And I am him

[@johnmarcus1355]

*Caesar

[@jimbarino2]

Not with a name like that you aren't. Can you imagine greeting people on the street with "Hail, Bogtrotter"?

[@brucebogtrotter3430]

@@jimbarino2 yes

[@kipcrew6163]

Rich Lowry is gonna love this.

[@RoyalistKev]

lol!

[@dheerajdadhich7756]

Please enable automatic captions

[@zwatwashdc]

Monarchy or not, it is worth having a conversation about how the current contradictions get resolved. What is America’s Rubicon? It seems we can all see that we are on that road? A crossing of the Rubicon seems preferable to government famine in the Ukraine or the Bolshevik revolution.

[@adrowsypoet]

Crossing the Rubicon is dismissing Congress from power.

[@newagain9964]

@@adrowsypoet yup. And no one is that powerful.

[@dugonman8360]

I honestly think that Rome was the only Republic where this happened. I think democracy and republics give people such a false sense of power that they'll never rise up against a totalitarian government if they were allowed to vote. Example: when france went through a mild famine, the people killed their king and replaced it with a republic, a body of government that was responsible for 500,000 lives lost. In the United States, when we had a decade long depression and famines everywhere, not one person stormed the house of congress or the white house while they ate steak. They figured they'd vote the depression away. We could be collectively be living in cement tubes, eating bug paste, working in sweat shops under third world conditions being payed barely livable wages and the most we'd do is vote for the other guy.

[@belthoff444]

Anyone know what book he's talking about around minute 50:00?

[@francescop1]

Shanghai Conspiracy by Charles A. Willoughby, Douglas Macarthur's chief of Intelligence

[@mikehuly4208]

What is the book by James Buchanan that Yarvin mentions at 18:30 ?

[@docbroom2593]

Might it be "Mr. Buchanan's Administration on the Eve of the Rebellion"

[@mikehuly4208]

@@docbroom2593 yes it is, thank you very much.

[@Cry4Tanelorn]

God, give us an American monarchy pls

[@adrowsypoet]

Make sure to pray it's a God fearing man who loves justice and carries it out.

[@dans3727]

So you hate democracy? Conservatives want tyranny? Totally f’d up and hostile to the most fundamental american values.

[@Cry4Tanelorn]

@@dans3727 democracy is not a good form of government. I would rather see it replaced by a monarchy that is confessional Orthodox Christian

[@Acujeremy]

Moldbug's ideas go so over the heads of Conservatives if you try to explain it to them.

[@Misterz3r0]

Its because his ideas are garbage.

[@Acujeremy]

@@Misterz3r0 It's because Conservatives can't think outside of slogans.

[@Scott-qo1eq]

@@Misterz3r0 I’m not sure about his “solutions” but his critique of progressivism and the machinery of Washington is brilliant!

[@adrowsypoet]

Let me guess, you think the republic is salvageable by voting?

[@Acujeremy]

@@adrowsypoet I definitely do not think that.

[@TheKatieLea]

A Curtis Yarvin interview without cursing? Feels like I won the world's worst scavenger hunt

[@dizzyraskolnikov1853]

Poor Jake 😂

[@ClaremontInst]

It's literally my job and I enjoy doing it, but thanks for the sympathy! -Jake

[@trouble820]

Only 8000 views and 80 comments. That's the problem.

[@lfrers]

Unnecessary bleeping.....really? Are there any minors listening to this subject matter?

[@johnford2517]

Truly bizarre

[@CptMark]

Subtitles are wrongly generated in Portuguese.

[@gomer2813]

What do we do if there isn't enough competency to go around at all in our society? As in, what do we do if the people just steadily lose competency for some reason, across the board, almost? Rather than solving the problem of how to get the good people in power, we'd have to solve the problem of how to grow competency.

[@themccarthyplan2020]

Global Ethno Nationalism with an indigenous aristocracy and monarchy under God is best for the sake of all people's of the world and is a key to world peace. The USA will only survive and thrive as a federation of sovereign racial state's with a joint military and intelligence services ❤️🙏

[@themccarthyplan2020]

@RonaldFisher anybody can be British these days. These islands are the ancestral homeland of the Irish, Welsh, Scottish and English people's. Anybody else should be welcomed as a well behaved foreign tourist or as a well behaved temporary foreign ESSENTIAL guestworker. Each nation must isolate the warmongers, secret societies and criminal's within their Nation. Send we an email and I'll send you a vision and a plan........ according to the historical record and contemporary data, it is impossible to effectively police and defend a multicultural multiracial multireligious multidegeneracy society. We need a better plan for the sake of all people's of the world ❤️🙏

[@dondondon786]

Next time, could you also bleep every occurrence of "like", "um", "basically", "you know", and "right", please?

[@avonacolyte]

So maddening to listen to. It's a shame because he has some interesting notions.

[@SW-cw6jc]

Apparently I'm the only one who doesn't mind it. Makes his ideas flow more like a friendly conversation than a lecture

[@johnnotrealname8168]

An American Monarchy is the only solution.

[@FinnBrownc]

this feels so much realer than the cheap knockoff stuff you get in the rest of the “conservative” world.

[@dheerajdadhich7756]

The captions are in Portuguese. Please change them to English.

[@p.d.stanhope7088]

Trump built 4 buildings. The dominant NYC developers built an average of 15-20 buildings in their prime. Trump's dad built tens of thousands of housing units for working class NYers has a far greater record as a developer.

[@Josias-Konstantinos]

I very much enjoyed this I never fell into the brainwashing of public schools probably due to my early years of having a Montessori education up until my second grade and my mother instilling Critical thinking, and my father being a Marine instilling rigid discipline in my life. I found interest in Physical activities, the Natural Sciences, History, and Politics at a early age with little interest any anything else I’ve traveled to Cambodia in 2008 when I was 15 and saw the after effects of what communism has done. I’ve become disenfranchised with mainstream politicians at this time seeing them nothing more than servants of interests groups. I graduated High-school in 2011 and joined the United States Army as a Infantryman. Some of the best and worst years of my life were in our inaction during the rise of ISIS from a mess we caused left me disgruntled. I was injured during a training exercise when our LMTV rolled over on top of us I was shortly medically retired in 2015 which I’m still recovering from. I was going on and off from school where I dabbled in Libertarianism until I snapped out of that nonsense quickly and in a college setting where everyone was getting more radicalized to the left is where I became a monarchist. My college career had to take a hiatus on November 11 2018 when three armed individuals broke into my home and held me at knife point with my fiancé being present, now with my training I was unusually calm and collected and unknown to them I had a 357 concealed in the small of my back I gave three verbal warnings before I took my fourth warning of a shot in the pocket of the shoulder that held the knife I then said leave or the next ones going in the head my dogs already chased the other two out I called the cops. Side note the VA was prescribing me with too many medications that was causing more harm than good now in the state in Missouri the Amendment 2 passed three days prior so I was still self medicating on marijuana so I was the one arrested and sentenced to six years in Prison but once I saw the Parole board they let me out immediately so I was released March 12 2020 so I will be finishing my degree starting in the fall but while I was in prison I was able to convince some inmates and guards that democracy is a terrible thing so that is a silver lining and all these endeavors have given me experience and have shown me perspectives people normally don’t see and have strengthened my character and moral compass. What convinced me to abandon democracy and the republic in favor of monarchy is what is the point of a constitution if the government isn’t even following it and twisting it for their interpretation when it’s pretty clear that the second Amendment has three separate parts due to the commas.

[@Misterz3r0]

Loser

[@QEsposito510]

If your dad was a troop, and you were a troop, you indeed fell into a whole lot of brainwashing.

[@maximtamarov9778]

This… didn’t happen. But also rich of you to speak of commas when you so obviously don’t know how to use them.

[@davidragsdale7923]

What would Curtis call the regime that replaced the Whig Oligarchy?

[@juanme555]

The Zombie Empire , according to his first interview with Dave Gornoski.

[@martin92177]

35:00 / what about China? Can it not do to the west what we did (?) to the USSR? Yes the west (as exemplified by the USA) may continue to gently decline, if no one else is an actor, but we are not alone

[@123gamejunkie]

can someone explain Yarvins comment about liberalism and communism in Shanghai ?

[@1234567Aesop]

Jarvin needs to chill out and stop interrupting. Hes probably too used to talking to sycophants

[@rraguso]

10/10

[@whig3982]

Pog

[@zackflora6165]

Arthur st claire!!!

[@zwatwashdc]

Yarvin, to what do you attribute our current malaise? Is this just the way systems degrade?

[@hardyje1915]

curtis starts talking at 3:40 ;)

[@n1mbusmusic606]

theil the best relucrant monarch we could hope for

[@arkology_city]

Monarchist city-state constitution (2 min) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJivooyknLl0hZo

[@n1mbusmusic606]

@@arkology_city great stuff man.thanks want to see more stuff like that. lets build our scary commune out in wyoming or somewhere.

[@joee7809]

Interesting idea to play around with, but I enjoy having a voice in government too much

[@mememagician97]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@nemsimic]

Why? You could spend your time doing way better things that are way more fun

[@emZee1994]

It's hilarious that you think you actually have a voice. All democratic governments work in one of two ways, either: 1) You are voting in non-corrupt elections to elect someone who you think has power but in reality they have no real power and it's all just a theatre to keep you looking in the wrong direction as the people with actual power fight for control (USA) OR 2) The voting system is corrupted and your votes just go in the bin becuase the next leader has already been selected. (One party states all over the world)

[@informationsuperkhan]

Lmao

[@squidmeta]

Lmao

[@n1mbusmusic606]

musk would try to blanket america with solar panels. yikes!

[@Jamesgarethmorgan]

"this is a family show" so we all have to put up with those ridiculous bleeps? FFS. Maybe people under 18 should be excluded. In fact yes fuck this being a family show - kick out the kids and let the adults be adults.

[@Kevin-zv6ds]

This is put out by a think tank, it literally is meant for the broadest audience possible

[@JoeHeine]

The beeps are performative nonsense. There is no reason for this to be available to five year olds

[@jimbarino2]

Five year olds would get bored in the first five minutes and go play with their legos.

[@greenglasful]

Does not matter w regards to Trump n Pericles bc Trump Won

[@gaulindidier5995]

Don't say the bad words guys...Because they're bad. Such a boomer intro ahah.

[@martin92177]

56:00 - Elon Musk?

[@martin92177]

59:00 - so not Thiel then 😂

[@samuelnelson8984]

Investing is how you create wealth,I started investing from pandemic crash 👍

[@doctortimepmd3339]

History full of events that didn't happen written by people who were not there.

[@dancooper4733]

You mean the winners dont write the gospel truth everytime? Just imagine if the wests moral lodestar was all based on lies.

[@opnavesea]

@@dancooper4733 what would happen?

[@newagain9964]

@@rfish67 where did he say “eliminate”? Its about being rational and objective. U think like a female.

[@JoeHeine]

This interviewer is terrible. This conversation is almost unbearable

[@Jamesgarethmorgan]

In fact I can't listen with all those bleeps - you've managed to ruin this.

[@Kevin-zv6ds]

Your loss

[@baddiesbynight6222]

I prefer the opposite to monarchy. I prefer decentralization.

[@adrowsypoet]

Can't work when moral degenerates are unified to destroy you and me. Each new culture they bring it, decentralization becomes a further and further pipe dream. Decentralization can only work after corruption and moral degeneracy is purged

[@newagain9964]

@@adrowsypoet go live in Saudi Arabia if u want a monarchy. America is not a place it’s and ideal. And Made into a place that strives for liberty.

[@adrowsypoet]

@@newagain9964 even our founding fathers said the republic was for virtuous, moral people. Our nation is now full of degenerates that don't deserve to vote but can AND do. Giving children hormones, aborting babies, high schoolers giving lap dances to faculty, etc. You think that's liberty? That's a black morass. With this current system of oligarchy and technofascism, liberty is dead. Dont be a fool, open your eyes.

[@newagain9964]

@@adrowsypoet liberty is not dead. But it is on life support. Best hope is a national (and state level) divorce. Create a safe space. Lolz

[@adrowsypoet]

@@newagain9964 lol, fair bro 👌

[@rat_king-]

JFK was america's king....

[@Sir_TophamHatt]

How so?

[@rat_king-]

@@Sir_TophamHatt His Social attitude, the publics opinion of him, The dynastic family, The care of his subjects over profit... oh now i know why he was shot.

[@Sir_TophamHatt]

@@rat_king- He may have had a noble/aristocratic spirit (which is what it sounds like you’re saying) but that doesn’t mean that he exercised power like a king.

[@rat_king-]

@@Sir_TophamHatt id say the civil rights movement would qualify him acting as a king, within the confines of executive power. its not just the man, its the limitations posed.

[@davidragsdale7923]

The problem with Curtis is that he assumes we're at the late Republic phase as opposed to the late Empire phase.

[@micahmueller5186]

Interesting I would agree we are at the late empire stage. Source of critique or information? Thanks

[@aldoushuxley5953]

If you go by Spengler, Caesar is next

[@justinjefferson6884]

At 37:32 he says "I pray to God we're in the Roman Republic and not the Roman Empire." He is clearly not assuming where we are. I think his work is written on the assumption that we are at the Republic phase because if we're at the Empire stage already there's nothing to be done. His work assumes we're in the Republic stage for practical reasons, but in terms of what he actually believes, he makes no such assumption at all.

[@nprovazi]

Couldn't listen to it. The bleeps are annoying.

[@miguelmarques4583]

As a brazilian I don't know what the fuck is Curtis is talking about civuc disorder and Michael must be a bit procincial if he thinks america makes a difference in our part of the world. I have hear my countrys named mentioned more than once in ways that sound errily like someone who is using a slur.

[@juanme555]

Are you new to this content? Im asking in good faith irmao.

[@miguelmarques4583]

@@juanme555 Not exactly. But I don't know what he means. Can you explain (I ask in good faith too)?

[@juanme555]

@@miguelmarques4583 Ele nao ta realmente atacando Brasil, ta sim, mas nao e sua intençao. O que ele implica quando dise "Vamos cair igual que Brasil" e que U.S ainda e um pais desenvolvido com muitos privilegios e um nivel de vida dos mais altos inclusive em comparaçao com outros paises desenvolvidos. Se U.S continua nessa direccion de democracia, republica e descentralizaçao , as entidades que atualmente governan U.S vao a continuar governando com mais poder e com ainda menos responsabilidade , porque U.S e precisamente...uma oligarquia. Essa decadencia no governo, cultura e sociedade e inevitavel e ele associa essa degradaçao com a decadencia que Brasil sufrio depois da aboliçao da Monarquia em 1889 , Brasil e um pais bem grande, com uma populaçao enorme e ha muito tempo, tinha uma economia poderosisima, e umos niveles de vida comparaveis com qualquer pais Europeo primermundista. Entao, e humilante ser o mal exemplo que o cara usa? Sim , mas nao e uma vendetta contra Brasil, assim como ele falou de Brasil tambem pode falar de Argentina, ou Ethiopia, e assim tambem falou de o Congo quando deixo de ser uma colonia Belga. Desculpa meu Portugues ruim, ainda estou aprendendo, sou Argentino. Abrazos irmao

[@JaredJohnston]

If you’re interested in this analogy, this is worth reading: americanaffairsjournal.org/2021/05/the-brazilianization-of-the-world/

[@miguelmarques4583]

@@juanme555 Muchas gracias hermano.

[@bdeas]

"and and and and and" "but but but but" so annoying

[@cristaud]

Listening to Curtis Yarvin is like watching someone gets the ingredients for a pizza then picks up the pizza dough and the ingredients throws them in the air and says ‘Come n get it it.’ To which one can only reply ‘But Curtis it’s not cooked, and, besides, it’s all on the floor.’ as for monarchy - well that’s what the last election delivered.

[@thotlinemiami6627]

@Weapons Of Mass Distraction somone who didn’t ready Curtis lol

[@nemsimic]

How was Trump a king? If anything he was just faking being a king to make his followers feel like he was doing something that had any real effect.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

1:35:00 this guy had lost is mind from this point onward.

[@royboyx2]

No disrespect to your guest, Mr. Anton. But...... full of straw-man argumentation, anachronic projection and an apparent unfamiliarity with basic American Civics 101. Philosopher king? Dream on, Plato!

[@AjaxNixon]

can you give an example?

[@primusinterpares5767]

@@AjaxNixon he really can't

[@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign]

No disrespect to you, but as Michael started saying towards the end of the conversation, things are starting to change with the questioning of CRT and woke etc, Yarvin responded with who owns the judges, enough said. Look what happened to General Flynn for the most beautiful example of the justice system and power in action. Michael is a nice guy but surely he has been done over by Lefties enough times to make him think a bit harder?

[@zyxwvut4382]

American civics class is a joke lol. Moldbug gives much more realistic analysis of how usg works.

[@davidkey4272]

Who wrote American civics 101 smart guy