The Star Wars SEQUELS are GOOD?! The Force Awakens Video Essay

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BenSwolo69

BenSwolo69

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@murphyslab735
@murphyslab735 3 жыл бұрын
The Star Wars Love/Hate Cycle: Phase 1: Movies come out, people hate them. Phase 2: Half a decade goes by, people still shit on fans of the movies whenever it's brought up. Phase 3: New movies come out, haters throw their backs out from the 180 they pull on their "real" thoughts of the previous movies just to spite the new ones.
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 4 жыл бұрын
Rey's parents leaving Jakku. Mando: Hey, you forgot your kid. Parents: Oh, thanks, I forgot. they leave and Rey lives her life out as a nobody on Coruscant. Cue Star Wars ending theme.
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbarth6691 It's for anybody that watches it and has a opinion on it 🤨
@douglasdumont3821
@douglasdumont3821 4 жыл бұрын
I’m nostalgic for the prequels but I’m so glad the sequels came out the way they did. I’d rather see a legitimately good movie than whatever the prequels wanted to be. Also I totally agree with your point about having to have knowledge about the Star Wars shows and comics to fully appreciate the prequels, just not a good sign
@Fi_Sci_
@Fi_Sci_ 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... well I don’t agree with everything you’ve said about the Prequels, I do agree with how you described the force awakens, and you stated very good points. Only thing that bugged me was the Rathtar segment feeling out of place, but then again pretty much every Star Wars movie has a scene devoted to a random side plot whether it be the segment with the Compactor creature in ANH or the factory level in AOTC, each Star Wars movie has their random segment. And I appreciate how you decided to narrow it down to just the films rather then all the expanded material like Shows and Novels, definitely helps your case feel all the more legitimate.
@franchisefanatic4142
@franchisefanatic4142 4 жыл бұрын
No. Its amazing. I love all of star wars
@omarbaba9892
@omarbaba9892 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@huntersolo8322
@huntersolo8322 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@hayleydog9543
@hayleydog9543 3 жыл бұрын
No
@bendaniels8434
@bendaniels8434 3 жыл бұрын
Same 💯
@leoliboy2680
@leoliboy2680 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I Love Every movie
@ucheemenike4021
@ucheemenike4021 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce...good to see u back after 2 yrs I really appriciate ur work....I wouldn't have passed my test(responding/analyzing a poem) without you and we all are expecting more great stuff from you....bless up bro
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Aw your kind words mean a lot. It’s good to hear from you! After I finish up this trilogy (classes are hell) I’m getting back into English and math education videos
@ballybally1
@ballybally1 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great essay on TFA! sign me up for the next one
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
When the public health scare dies down, I'll be back with the next video. (All of my recording equipment is in the Biophysics labs, which is closed due to the crisis)
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check back in about two weeks. I've finally gotten around to recording the video on The Last Jedi. It should be done editing in the next couple days. Stay healthy and stay well. :)
@ballybally1
@ballybally1 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 so keen dude!!!
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to announce I've finally begun the editing process for the third and final video in this miniseries! I'll keep you all posted, but it's the most ambitious thing I've edited, and considering my bar for quality is so low its in the floor, this might take a while. It's estimated to be over 40 minutes long. Stay tuned, and when it launches be sure to have the notification button on!
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 4 жыл бұрын
Can you give me your best possible answer as to WHY Rey has a "Force Vision" in the TFA when she comes into contact with the Skywalker Saber, yet that is never even mentioned in TLJ. And if you just tell me stuff to do with her being a force Dyad which showed her random stuff, i'll just say none of that had anything to with her being a Palpatine, and it never even hinted at her Palpy origins. Heres another how come TFA makes very great emphasis on the importance of finding Luke Skywalker in the opening crawl? That whole movie is about the new characters taking the ball-droid BB-8 back to the resistance to fill in the blank to a star map, and pin-point Luke Skywalker's location; Episode 7 made it very important that Luke Skywalker is found because the Galaxy basically needs a symbol of "Hope" once again to defeat Evil. TLJ comes along and uses the children at the end of that movie to show how Luke Skywalker did bring "Hope" back to people of the Galaxy, through his actions in facing the First Order. So WHY is it that in Episode 9 TROS all this "Hope" that Luke Skywalker was supposed to have instilled in people, has now gone. The allies never showed up, and well by the end of TROS and this ST, it just takes Lando to put out somekind of call, which strangely gets a mass-load of people to all come to Exogol and help the fleeting Resistance defeat the First Order. By the end Luke Skywalker himself is practically forgotten about by EVERYONE else in the Galaxy.
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
@@RaikenXion Simple. Bad writing, no plan, no care. Like I said, you should watch that video.
@Concetta20
@Concetta20 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Adam Driver and Daisy were amazing.
@rantman2276
@rantman2276 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the sequels but it feels like there is a missing film or series for palpatine to come back. The prequels are only good because of the clone wars and had they not existed people would hate them even more. I think we need another film
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Soup Soup interesting. What time period would you put the Palpatine film? I completely agree that his resurrection needs more fleshing out.
@Rounderyathecruel
@Rounderyathecruel 4 жыл бұрын
Anomaly inc is living prove that the prequels are good without the clone wars
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rounderyathecruel Let's add Rick Worley.
@techno639
@techno639 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rounderyathecruel Too bad it's him
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 4 жыл бұрын
Palptine's resurrection ultimately doesnt work, sure hes a iconic villain who has been around in both PT and OT. So has Anakin in fact it would have been more interesting if Snoke meddled with the darkside of the force and somehow tapped into Anakin's force ghost and conjured up the dark spirit side of his force ghost, corrupting it in some way. Bringing back Palpy no matter how many movies, spin-offs, comics and novels you have to explain away reasons for his return; destroys the whole idea of Anakin;s sacrifice in destroying him and bringing balance to the force. Y'all need to understand this, once you bring Palpatine back, you then have to explain exactly what that blue essence was that came out of him and escaped up and out of the massive shaft in the Death Star II. You cannot ignore that, and then it just doesnt matter if Rey defeating him by simply deflecting his own force lightning back at him to dissintegrate his physical CLONED body. The FACT remains that what happened to the blue essence? And this is where ALL of you who love the idea of Palpy's return are really kind of stupid and just very ignorant, i dont mean to insult but i have to say it you are. I think those of you who like Palpatine's return completely ignore those facts, you just like that it wraps the Saga up in a nice little bow.
@lewischarlwood3947
@lewischarlwood3947 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think a palpatine movie set between 8 and 9 could fix the whole trilogy.
@techno639
@techno639 4 жыл бұрын
I think a Ben Solo movie/series set before the trilogy would actually help fill in and tell the full story the sequels were trying to tell: Ben's relationships with Han and Leia, his Jedi training under Luke, Luke Skywalker as a Jedi Master who can actually fight, Snoke (Palpatine) manipulating him to turn to the dark side, etc.
@NEEKNerdGeek
@NEEKNerdGeek 4 жыл бұрын
I love TFA. Great video
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ChickenMcBerger
@ChickenMcBerger 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make videos on TLJ and TRoS??
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Reverse yes! Once the health crisis dies down I will return to my lab and grab my recording equipment. They’re all written up. TLJ is an ambitious mixed bag, and TROS is essentially a mess with very redeemable elements.
@Concetta20
@Concetta20 3 жыл бұрын
That intro cracked me up.
@Rounderyathecruel
@Rounderyathecruel 4 жыл бұрын
You need to read all the books to understand half of the movies, the prequels make perfect sense without extra content. The prequels had more practical effects than the original trilogy.
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Forever to that end, you’re right. His work with models particularly on the episode 2 arena was great. I’m not sure the quantity or practical effects is the important part, more so the prevalence. My issue is that the original trilogy stands very well on its own. The prequels (and sequels too in all fairness) rely on outside sources to patch the holes in their narratives or major writing issues. But I appreciate your perspective and viewpoint. Just so you know, episode 3 is the second best movie imo. That movie kicks ass.
@Rounderyathecruel
@Rounderyathecruel 4 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree about Kylo being better than Vader, that being said I respect your perspective
@techno639
@techno639 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't care for any of the characters in the prequels until I saw Clone Wars. Meanwhile the original and sequel (mostly) trilogies stand pretty damn well on their own. Personally i don't care if every piece of world building or reasoning for political conflict of the current war is explained or not, as long as the characters and story are developed and interesting enough.
@Rounderyathecruel
@Rounderyathecruel 4 жыл бұрын
techno639 Rey is a Mary Sue, she has no struggle with the dark side what so ever, if she was consistent she should have never cared about Finn. Also if she was consistent she would have joined Kylo, in Star war the last Jedi All the Disney trilogy is, is a knock off brand called Star war
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Forever I’m impressed you have Anomaly’s scripts memorized this well. Rey isn’t a Mary Sue in TFA. Her issues are abundant in TLJ and TROS, but it ain’t due to alleged SJW crap. She’s just not a good character at times, and can come off too 1-dimensional
@Concetta20
@Concetta20 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the prequels over all. Obiwan was my fave.
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I would absolutely love to see more videos from you. This was a pleasure to watch. The only constructive criticism I'd offer is that the video is a bit of a mess. Both the editing and the script sometimes made it unclear what exactly you were talking about, at least for my dumbass. Anyway, I really hope you make a part 2 because this one was great!
@franchisefanatic4142
@franchisefanatic4142 4 жыл бұрын
you see how poe comes back in the lego game. It's canon
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael 4 жыл бұрын
3:34 isn't that the most important part of a movie? And really why the prequels are superior to the sequels. Bold of you to mention that comedy of a review that is the Plinkett review. Typical "muh CGI" and "It's boring".
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Eh. Difference of opinons. Theres no such thing as a "correct" take. Did you not read the thumbnail? I think they're a CGI ridden mess with terrible writing, acting, and a complete lack diversity or coherant structure. Their strengths are in world building, the Jedi/Sith Ideologies, and the entire third movie (it's great). But to argue that the phantom menace is a great film compared to this is something I just fundamentally don't agree with. I do, however, agree with your opinion on them not being awful as a whole. I hope you are well, and I appreciate your view.
@e-scorts7485
@e-scorts7485 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Personally love the sequel trilogy
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
I’m curious, what are your feelings on 9? I’m trying to get a good idea of a general consensus.
@e-scorts7485
@e-scorts7485 4 жыл бұрын
BenSwolo69 I watched it with my younger brother opening night. We had rewatched all of the Star Wars movies going into The Rise of Skywalker. I personally really liked it but imo it’s definitely the weakest film in the trilogy. The biggest problem is Palpatine coming back and Rey being his granddaughter. It’s kinda absurd and we wouldn’t have gotten what we got if people didn’t cry about The Last Jedi. It’s a very enjoyable film though
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
@@e-scorts7485 I'd bet thats a very treasured memory. My best friend and I saw TFA opening night and it's my favorite high school memory to this day.
@Concetta20
@Concetta20 3 жыл бұрын
I cared about the characters, so they did something right.
@theamazingfilmguy3070
@theamazingfilmguy3070 4 жыл бұрын
I personally love the sequel trilogy, I am fine if people don't like the movies than that's fine, but when people say they ruined the franchise I think they are just being dramatic, prequels are still the worst in my opinion
@rareschorban936
@rareschorban936 4 жыл бұрын
That's my opinion
@franchisefanatic4142
@franchisefanatic4142 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshkrawczyk7844 wrong
@jamesthompson9959
@jamesthompson9959 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Krawczyk they never said the chosen one prophecy was forever, if they did then I’d have a problem
@theamazingfilmguy3070
@theamazingfilmguy3070 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshkrawczyk7844 so when WW1 ended and then there was a second world war does that mean all the soldiers that died where for nothing
@theamazingfilmguy3070
@theamazingfilmguy3070 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshkrawczyk7844 well if your argument is he died for nothing than that is completely wrong, Anakin killed palpatine and restored balance for a few years, and if vader didn't sacrifice himself then the Og cast would die and never be able to form the resistance or mentor Rey so she could kill palpatines clone, also the prequels made the story about Anakins legacy not the Og, which might be why they tried to dteer clear of that plot point, but if you look at it the way I do it builds on the storyline and doesn't throw it away
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
15:14 luke pull a trigger (with the advice of ben and the help of han), anakin became half robot (there is a price to these powers)
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
What?
@cinimodg0251
@cinimodg0251 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who understands
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 3 жыл бұрын
Always two there are. No more. No less.
@Concetta20
@Concetta20 3 жыл бұрын
I also forgive the soft remake because history DOES repeat itself.
@omarbaba9892
@omarbaba9892 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest “Mary sue” is non existent in Star Wars
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve personally always hated the term based off it’s sexist connotations alone, but I agree. The characters aren’t the strongest, but it’s not like they’re the worst thing ever. Sure, it’s not the greatest thoroughfare defense, but it’s true nonetheless
@omarbaba9892
@omarbaba9892 4 жыл бұрын
BenSwolo69 I know that the characters arn’t the strongest but calling Rey or rose a “Mary sue” is kind of offensive to the actors cause even Rey had character development
@chucho35pewdsmiester78
@chucho35pewdsmiester78 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 I actually thought Rey and Kylo had some of the best depth in the saga
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
Everything you said was going to piss people off delighted me.
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Hehe I aim to please. Be sure to check back for part 2 in a few weeks :). It's recorded and under editing.
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 I await your arrival with optimism.
@Rounderyathecruel
@Rounderyathecruel 4 жыл бұрын
BenSwolo69 your wrong about the prequels they are fantastic
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rounderyathecruel The prequels are very good their only flaws were just abit too much use of green-screen in nearly every scene and Lucas writing the scripts himself when he even admitted script-writing was never his strong-suit, which led to alot of corny and cheesy dialogue.
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
@@RaikenXion What makes the prequels "very good" movies?
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
19:00 he doesn't had solids really reasons to be what he was... that the whole problem of this character Anakin had solids reasons to bacame vader (his mom, the jedi council, palpatine, his wife) For kylo, we talk vaguely about his relationship with these parents (that's why han's death doesn't work for me) And we don't know anything about his relationship with snoke He is a discount anakin (better acting but poorly written)
@Edwenthewolfxx
@Edwenthewolfxx 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a huge sequels fan and hate all the negative crap people say about them
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Reyloaddictxx wouldn’t say I hate ALL the crap, but a good deal of it is unwarranted.
@anti-dreamstansunited3391
@anti-dreamstansunited3391 4 жыл бұрын
Your name is so obvious
@justinmicheletti5737
@justinmicheletti5737 3 жыл бұрын
Although I love the prequels because that’s what I grew up with. I ultimately love the sequel trilogy more than then both the prequels and the originals.
@elliottdavis530
@elliottdavis530 4 жыл бұрын
He is the chosen one, nah but for real I agree with everything you said, I’ve been looking for someone who thinks the same as I do and you’ve shown the respect that these films deserve and how they are leaps and bounds ahead of the prequels
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Elliott Davis You finding me was the will of the force, I have no doubt about that. We Jedi are agents of the living force. Jokes aside I’m really glad you liked the video. Not that you have to, but feel free to check out the other two in the series. It’s finally finished, so I’m debating making a master upload “lucasified” edit of the full 2 hour video essay.
@Edwenthewolfxx
@Edwenthewolfxx 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@bullrun2772
@bullrun2772 4 жыл бұрын
Yay
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
19:49 you confirm one of my other answer below, you say that just because driver is the better actor (or just had better acting direction) than Christensen You're focus on what your see on the screen, not the writing Acting is good, but after 3 movies we still don't know why ben became kylo ren...
@hurricaneofyoutube1957
@hurricaneofyoutube1957 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we do
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
@@hurricaneofyoutube1957 Please, give me a answer then
@hurricaneofyoutube1957
@hurricaneofyoutube1957 4 жыл бұрын
@@rastarapha because smoke and palpating had corrupted him and whispered in his ear. Luke trying to strike him down was the final straw and it corrupted him fully
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
@@hurricaneofyoutube1957 I heard in TFA that he had too much vader in him... it's not the same...
@hurricaneofyoutube1957
@hurricaneofyoutube1957 4 жыл бұрын
@@rastarapha In TFA he was inspires by Vader and saw it as his legacy to continue his mission
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
12:39 This way more than just dammage control, it's the moment where lucasfilm decide to not tell a new story in the galaxy far far away The whole point of TFA is to make a movie which will please those who didn't like the prequels... But you're going nowhere with this kind of concept (and they went nowhere at the end)
@pacpac6568
@pacpac6568 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I can't wait for The Rise Of Skywalker video! You've done such an amazing job with the two first parts. And you have quite a sense of humour! I love these movies so much, even TROS, I don't think it undid the meaning of TLJ as most people seem to think, and this movie is so generous, such a treasure... I loved Rey's journey over the trilogy, she went from being that poor scavenger that didn't believe in herself in TFA, to becoming the ultimate Jedi in TROS. The thing that bugged me when I read the commentaries of your videos is that it feels like most of the people who watched them already loved the sequels. I always feel like the sequel haters try their best not to be convinced, like they intentionally do not want to love these movies!
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
It's why I'm so excited to release my final video. It's about halfway edited. I've come to accept that some people are so firmly in that buble of sequel hating and there is no convincing them, for the same reason, people who held pickets outside theaters saying "George Lucas Ra*** my childhood" had no hope either. However, I'm not a fan of the third film to be fair. I want to be, and it has redemptive aspects, but I don't like it. So my third video is gonna be a deep dive on what makes the fundamental filmmaking elements shaky in TROS, and the more sinister corporate motivations, all while debunking the idea that SJW politics ruined star wars. That talking point annoys me more than any other one against the trilogy. While I do think TROS has the potential to undo meaning, I don't think it does. I'm not gonna give my argument away since I'm really proud of this video, but I hope it's as good as I'm trying to make it. I hope you'll come back for it, and your comment was very thoughtful. It made my morning.
@pacpac6568
@pacpac6568 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 I have a lot of love for TROS, it's actually my second favorite Star Wars movie after TLJ! I didn't really enjoyed it when I watched it for the first time, because I was really stressed out, and I went to the theater with the only Star Wars fans I know (I'm French, and it's not that popular around here) and they are a bunch of sequels haters 😁 But it has really grown on me, I spent a lot of time defending it! I'll gladly watch your video, and try to give constructive feedback! I would also love to hear your takes on the Mandalorian!
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacpac6568 I can summarize the mandalorian very easily. It's great. But yeah I'm interested in seeing how you'll take my video on TROS, but one of the points is that no one person or critic should take away from the emotional weight the films carry for you, because for every person their favorites are different :)
@pacpac6568
@pacpac6568 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 Yes exactly that is an excellent point to make! I'd say that the Mandalorian had a lot of great new concepts, designs, and themes, music, but I feel like I will never be able to connect with the Mando the way I did with the sequels characters! Oh and I also watched your poem video wich is really interesting too! 😁
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Ah that 4 year old high school project. I keep it up because it helps those kids in AP Lit every spring lol
@omarbaba9892
@omarbaba9892 4 жыл бұрын
I like all three movies but the plot holes bug me
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
something tells me you'll like my final video when it launches within the week...
@dbherring
@dbherring 3 жыл бұрын
While I think acknowledging that some people have a problem with the diversity - and is probably worth briefly admonishing people on that point. 45 seconds to do so is eyerolling. Anyone who doesn't like that the main protagonist is a girl is most likely not watching this video or will punch out as soon as you go down that path. I will agree on the Mary Sue point... it is a lazy assertion - I do think her potential as a character was blunted because of Mary Sue like qualities she exhibits... On the whole she is just poorly written at times - the character and Daisy deserved better.. I see your point on Vader vs Kylo but Trilogies taken as a whole I think Kylo comes up short.. That, I believe, is due to the various directions the movies went and probably even when Fischer passed away that probably caused some problems... And with Vader he had a blank canvas so he could make a more concise character arc (which they could have done with Kylo but they would have been accused of copying) I have a large problem with the Resistance as a concept... I can get around the First Order... kind of see how they came to be.... and the Resistance could work but just a little bit of prequel style politics would have helped... The Resistance in general is a misleading name of what they probably should have been (a different faction in the Republic) heck they could have positioned it as some sort of Trade Federation versus Naboo thing (bigger scale better written hopefully) and it would have made more sense and not have been so distracting. I think a lot of the hate the movie gets is because questions were brought up and either never answered or answered illogically. (see the different visions of the movie) Fight at the end didn't bug me... some of the Force powers that were exhibited just seemed unsettled (for both Kylo and definitely Rey) Oh and just wasted characters (Maz and Phasma mainly) that didn't need bigger roles just more significant ones.. with a little tweaking would have been very possible.... I mean did we REALLY need Daniel Craig in a Storm Trooper Suit?) Well I guess Maz's was pretty well balanced... she just got underused in th future installments... Looking forward to the other 2 videos.... still think there was so much wasted potential in these... but I imagine this is an impossible task to pull off....I probably liked the prequels more than you did (in comparison to these) but some of that is just appreciating what Lucas's vision (both in concepts and film construction techniques / homages) Even if the execution was a bit (or more) muddled at times....
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I just read through your thoughts. I love them. I agree with most of what you said. I went with a “take every film in isolation as much as possible approach”. Trilogy wise, Vader is better. 4 vs 7, Kylo is better. Also you’re right on the Mary Sue thing, but the Brie Larson despising Trump voter demographic is sadly larger than we think. Rey sucks wholistically, but I don’t believe it’s feminism that is the problem. I go into that more in the 3rd and final video. Also in the next video, I talk a lot about the reset pulled in this trilogy and I don’t like it that much either. It’s important to remember that this video is a defense, but this movie (and especially the trilogy) is nowhere near perfect. Stay healthy and stay safe friend :)
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
8:37 you don't have to see all these things for that
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Oh trust me. ROTS is the next video I’m gonna make when I get around to it. That movie is legendary.
@robertbacon9097
@robertbacon9097 3 жыл бұрын
Starkiller base was a logical progression of the story. It may seem unimaginative, but the technology to blow planets up isn't something fascists are going to just abandon.
@nytro3917
@nytro3917 3 жыл бұрын
He is using the mic wrong😂
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 3 жыл бұрын
Bro my dumb ass barely managed to turn it on
@thedirtyroom_3564
@thedirtyroom_3564 4 жыл бұрын
The prequels get a 3/10 for me there are certainly worse movies but I don’t think they did anything particularly good besides the fight scenes and some good lines.
@anti-dreamstansunited3391
@anti-dreamstansunited3391 4 жыл бұрын
The sequels got 1/10 for me
@owensmith8607
@owensmith8607 4 жыл бұрын
They’re good movies but they’re terrible Star Wars movies
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of curious what the consensus would be. What would make a "good" star wars movie? One argument could be a movie like empire and another would be Revenge of the sith.
@owensmith8607
@owensmith8607 4 жыл бұрын
Darth Voldemort I guess that’s a pretty decent way of putting it. I think if the sequels were alone and there was no such thing as Star Wars before this than I would definitely enjoy the movies. They’re decent movies and enjoyable to watch but with so much lore and history that has been added to the Star Wars you kinda have to be careful. Disney in my opinion wasn’t careful and made the events from previous movies and films less understandable. And by the way you’re absolutely right. Revenge of the Sith is more entertaining and emotional when you’ve seen the originals. I mean it’s still a good movie in my opinion but it’s an amazing Star Wars movie. I think a better example would be the attack of the clones. The movie isn’t that good. It’s cheesy and kinda boring, but the movie really fits into Anakin’s/Vader’s plot. It shows his first masacre and shows why Anakin would turn to the dark side. It really fits well into his character development and explains his transformation to Vader and everything about Empire strikes back is perfect lol. One of the seeds of a beautiful franchise. Those are just my thoughts on what I think
@anteprs7908
@anteprs7908 3 жыл бұрын
tfa wasnt the problem is tlj and tros delivered
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 4 жыл бұрын
For you to keep drawing comparisons to the Prequels to justify how you believe the Sequels are actually good just shows how you're just grasping at straws, i was expecting a solid argument and points as to how the Sequels are actually good. If a majority of fans seem to agree with just like SO MANY reasons why the Disney Sequel Trilogy is spectacularly bad they cant all be wrong, and YOU and the small percentage of ST lovers be right. So many reasons i can point out what makes the ST bad not even gonna bother cause you've heard them all before so i'll just say it's main ultimate flaw is a lack of PLANING from the beginning, doesnt matter how much those of you love the ST you cannot deny there was NO PLAN.
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
You should watch my Rise of Skywalker video. Our views align a lot more than you think...
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 i'll give it a try but i know you wont convince me otherwise.
@ryanbarth6691
@ryanbarth6691 4 жыл бұрын
Did you like the rise of Skywalker
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Funny that you mention it, I just recorded my video on the Rise of Skywalker. But, to answer your question, no. I want to like it, but I feel like it sticks out from this trilogy like a very sore thumb, but for very sinister BTS reasons. That isn't to say it doesn't have bright spots. Loved General Pryde, Kylo Ren, and Leia's treatment.
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbarth6691 Funny enough the thesis of my next video is that you cant let them ruin it for you. Sure, these movies weren't the best, and sure, a lot of this fanbase has used these films as a bs platform to blame SJW politics (as if they arent a good thing...) for why these movies suck, but a bad fanbase or bad couple movies can never invalidate how wonderful those films that you treasure made you feel. That makes them invaluable, and truly makes them special to me. :)
@ryanbarth6691
@ryanbarth6691 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 that's deep
@ryanbarth6691
@ryanbarth6691 3 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 you deserve more likes
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
8:12 cause he got a good story ?
@darthtrip7188
@darthtrip7188 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care who disagrees with me, the Sequels are overall much better than the Prequels, in my opinion. Even as Trilogies, the Sequel Trilogy is overall better than the Prequel Trilogy, in my opinion. I've sat and watched the Prequels and getting through The Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones is absolute hell. Even Revenge Of The Sith (it's supposed to be the "good" Prequel) is boring and cringy at times but just not nearly as much as The Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones are. I love the Sequels/Sequel Trilogy. I also enjoy Rogue One and Solo as well. The Original Trilogy is still the best Star Wars Trilogy even though I find Return Of The Jedi to be overrated as well.
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 4 жыл бұрын
I think you and I are on the exact same wavelength.
@Rounderyathecruel
@Rounderyathecruel 4 жыл бұрын
Subjectivity your fine, but if your talking objectively your a fucking moron if you believe that the sequels are good
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Uh... dude first of all don't be a dick. Second of all, you think the Prequels are objectively great due to your tone, which in your own words makes you a moron as well. Both of you can be correct. Be nice.
@darthtrip7188
@darthtrip7188 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rounderyathecruel The Sequels/Sequel Trilogy > the Prequels/Prequel Trilogy, MORON. Don't make me list you all of the ways either. Now, for now on, if you keep trying to insult my intelligence, I will do the same to you but 100 times worse. If you want to be cool, then show some respect. If you don't, then you'll get no respect from me either and this will turn into a real shit show and fast. I'm not the one to try that crap on, bud.
@anti-dreamstansunited3391
@anti-dreamstansunited3391 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthtrip7188 STFU LMAO
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
11:31 I'm unconfortable about this point exactly beacause disney/lucasfilm made her a mary sue They didn't writing well (or just didn't writting at all) this lead female character, because she's precisly a lead female character
@rastarapha
@rastarapha 4 жыл бұрын
20:48 Nop, vader is not ambiguous, he has no reason to be more developed in episode 4 Kylo is ambiguous and we don't know why he is...
@jackdehoog5985
@jackdehoog5985 4 жыл бұрын
I actually really loved the sequels. It’s gonna be the same thing that happened to the prequels. The younger generation that loves the prequels grew up and now defend them all over the place. I guarantee the same thing will happen with the sequels
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. While I don’t think they’ll be reguarded as a well constructived trilogy, I think fondness with increase over time. (To be fair, I have a lot of problems with TROS). You should check out the other two videos as well. :)
@ryantheanimator1156
@ryantheanimator1156 3 жыл бұрын
No, I don't think I will forgive the sequels for blowing up one shot at reuniting Luke, Leia and Han.
@forgrim454
@forgrim454 4 жыл бұрын
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
There’s always a bigger fish...
@forgrim454
@forgrim454 4 жыл бұрын
BenSwolo69 Hello there
@johnnysmith1555
@johnnysmith1555 4 жыл бұрын
personally, I think star wars sucks. please debate
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Smith that’s the thing. It’s a highly flawed series with a lot of issues so I completely understand why some people wouldn’t like it.
@johnnysmith1555
@johnnysmith1555 4 жыл бұрын
@@benswolo6928 star wars
@johnnysmith1555
@johnnysmith1555 4 жыл бұрын
@Some Guy 99 uhhh uhmm. Uhhhhhhh. Uh. Oh no. Oh no. Think I might have lost this one
@franchisefanatic4142
@franchisefanatic4142 4 жыл бұрын
sequels are the best
@anti-dreamstansunited3391
@anti-dreamstansunited3391 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I nean that's ur opinion
@jonpaulcer3128
@jonpaulcer3128 4 жыл бұрын
It's treason then
@benswolo6928
@benswolo6928 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonpaulcer3128 *obnoxious spin and scream*
@bullrun2772
@bullrun2772 4 жыл бұрын
Yay
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