⛓️ The State of Deathslinger (Bugs, broken maps, and more.)

Needed to be said. Pretty sad that the attention has moved away. That they can’t even release a stupid cosmetic correctly..

[@REDRAVH]

They’ve been messing up cosmetics for years. I remember when clowns blight skin was released back in the day his knife was invisible and he was just giving a thumbs up.

[@c_c9592]

I'm really frustrated by accidentally closed holes or textures. Just like of the window on MacMillan; we waited six months for them to fix the invisible texture. And invisible textures keep popping up. It's not consistent, and I can't even figure out if these are bugs or if the developers are deliberately adding invisible textures. I hope Caleb gets more love, and all of his issues will be fixed, especially skin and iron sights related

[@latenightnomad]

Well said brother.

[@Standgedicht]

On the other side: With Trickster (my main) you can shot trough the weirdest holes, sometimes trough walls. It`s so ridicolous when you find out. As for the Slinger: I don't think he's really the focus of the developers. The Trickster, for example, is more strongly supported, even though he's not a high tier list killer. But DbD has a lot of fans in Asia, mainly in Korea, and he's a very popular character there. It's unfair, but unfortunately that's the way it is.

[@TobiasRieper001]

I had no idea that most iron sights were off and that object collision got jankier this patch. Thank you for the video and for linking Akeeno's guide, very helpful.

[@For_the-Emperor]

The fact that companies can release broken skins and charge $20 bucks should be illegal. You’re paying for a product that doesn’t work and who knows if they will ever fix it. I’ve been saying for years the gaming industry needs to start being held accountable because they are so predatory to the consumer base.

[@MissionControlDRG]

10-17 no skin is 20

[@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN]

It’s illegal for a company to release and sell cosmetics for a certain price? 😂😂😂😂. Oh boy. You need to get out in the real World. That’s like someone crying about the new Nike shoes for $140 or the Kylie Jenner lipstick for $60 😂😂😂. You’re saying this should be illegal? 😂😂😂😂

[@zeepakman6885]

@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN Company shill detected.

[@MissionControlDRG]

@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN makeup for 2 grand

[@zath6425]

Hi there. P100 Legacy Trapper who's mained him since launch. I feel your pain. Every single patch they manage to bug something with his traps while simultaneously continuing to add maps that make traps almost impossible to hide. That plus the constant weird changes to how far survivors go when they vault, and where they land from drop downs has really frustrated me. On top of that, factor in the increasing number of aura perks survivors are getting and how countered he gets by coms, a problem not even Hag really has to deal with because her traps cover such a wide area and they're much harder to disarm. All of that has just left me numb and unwilling to play him. I also really dislike their reasoning for giving a 110 killer a 32 meter terror radius when in the amount of time it takes Slinger to aim, shoot, hit, reel, swing, wipe, and reload, Huntress and Trickster have already downed three survivors without even having to look at a locker. I'm not even going to mention the fact that every single time Trapper manages to get a spot where his trap bugs into the ground that usually gets fixed almost immediately when the bug where his reticle was incorrectly aligned persisted for MONTHS.

[@FinestFantasyVI]

As a Trickster main who stuck with the killer ever since picking up the game. I feel a solidarity with Slinger mains and feel validated by this video. My aim with Trickster is on point. But with Slinger its bad. Like not as good with him. Im glad to know Im not the problem. But frustrated af his weapons are unusable Slinger being shadownerfed over patches either with STBFL nerf, terror radius, addons, anything is insane. I want DBDs killer cowboy to yeehaw and kill. Not limp harder than Hag They need to look at Slinger and give Skull Merchant a break. Not like theyre doing anything good with her anyway

[@MissionControlDRG]

I mean they've deleted multiple spots on maps you can place traps

[@latenightnomad]

I hear your frustrations. Trapper is definitely in need of some love and I'm genuinely shocked he's been left as-is for so long. Even just some small buffs would go a long way.

[@hexagremTTV]

This video was really well made and I'm glad you're bringing some of these concerns to light. It's incredibly frustrating that the collision in game isn't consistent. I hope this video reaches the dev's and they take the time to listen everyone. Keep up the good work Nomad.

[@latenightnomad]

WOAH

[@latenightnomad]

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[@akashkarose]

@@latenightnomad

[@OrangeCatIntellect]

Slinger is my main too. He is one of the very few killers that still make me enjoy dbd. Luckily enough I did not go crazy, some invisible walls were indeed added and the hitbox on certain guns is just so weird. I hope they fix it, but I start losing hope in bhvr ngl. I miss you Slinger, but for now I switch over to Clown and Wesker or other games. Thx for the video!

[@danielkirkby]

As an artist main there's a horrible bug with dropped pallets atm, it should damage but swarms instead. and other inconsistencies with her power, especially with ping and desync massively effecting her power

[@latenightnomad]

IMPORTANT NOTE: It's worth mentioning that a lot of high-level Deathslinger mains have reported issues regarding hitboxes with some claiming they've been altered entirely. I decided to leave this out of the video as it was discovered while I was recording and I haven't experienced it myself yet (I haven't played much since the patch went live due to work and a lack of motivation from the issues mentioned in this video.) If this turns out to be true, it's yet another problem we have to deal with as Deathslinger players and I'll make another video covering it. Take care of yourselves. -Nomad

[@OrangeCatIntellect]

It is sad. But it did got harder to hit survs 😢

[@Orthane]

Hey give them a break, they need to focus on re-working Skull Merchant for the 3rd time (And yes it is her 3rd, she was re-worked after the PTB for Tools of Torment) when she has only been in the game for a little over a year. Also they need to make more Meg and Feng cosmetics, give Blight more attention, and maybe make some changes to maps like added another window in a Springfield house for no reason.

[@FinestFantasyVI]

What Feng and Meg cosmetics? Didnt you hear? Its all about Mikaela and Sable cosmetics now? They got a goth mommy to milk Yeeesh

[@DestroyerBG1]

Dont forget buffing huntress for no reason because her having 10 hatchets instead of 7 is gonna so much more fun. Definitely might consider dcing instead of hook suiciding.

[@finkeloni]

havent played slinger in a while cuz of these reasons, ty for bringing it to light

[@cherrygator]

I'm so glad theres a video about this! Especially the blighted skin, I bought it day of release and went into a game and was just appalled that it actually made it into the game like that...the gun is literally unusable (I'm sure I could still hit some shots but theres no reason to put yourself though that when there are perfectly usable guns available) and the hair clipping is insane. I hope it gets fixed soon I really wanted to use it ;(

[@latenightnomad]

tbh I may have overexaggerated about the Iron Maiden weapon but I genuinely think the Blighted weapon is unusable lol I mean, it covers like 60% of your screen. It just ain't worth it :(

[@ComradeCheeze]

Thanks for the input friend.

[@somethinggoodddd180]

The bot footage was insane lmao i didn’t know that could happen

[@latenightnomad]

Yeah, it's bad haha. Every bot does this. It doesn't matter what you do, where you are when you shoot them, what perks you have, etc. Bots just do this every time while they're speared :p

[@bierchen8863]

The problem with Collisons Zone are the tiles itself. To time where dbd was live moddable someone put old assets to the map and wesker for example could never use his dash on anything. And BHVR forget many things to adjusting properly. And the iron sight is always slighty off center. huntress has the same issue. Is the same with Ghostface. He is also bugged is using the unknown reveal mechanic instead the stealth one. (which cause that bots for example can reveal you even inside a building with no line of sight) And the bots why they are moving so wild in the spear is the AI code and unreal engine itself. When they never coding this properly the engine ignore every restriction which a normal human survivor has/had. But i know what you mean. I also mained him for a long time before his quickscope nerf. I doesnt care about 110% 32m etc. I want to shoot now and not to wait for 1 second to getting in the iron sight.

[@Robot256k]

I used to main Slinger for a long time and was pretty good with him, I started to shy away from him due to frustration from the hit box. It just became so inconsistent particularly when the target was closer to me. The amount of times I would see the harpoon go straight through the target was infuriating to the point I just started playing him less and less. The consistency with lead off distances started to become a guessing game imo, which makes it very hard to maintain muscle memory when you don't actually have something that is repeatable from game to game. As far as cosmetics go I actually don't mind the Iron Maiden skin that much, but you basically have to re-learn how to use that weapon as its so different from others. That skin with multiple spikes is so annoying though and I just completely avoid anything with more clutter than simple weapon designs.

[@latenightnomad]

I feel your frustrations 100%. I have so many clips of my spear going directly through a survivor (either during a vault or when a survivor is just standing out in the open) and it's so disheartening. TBH I may have overexaggerated on the Iron Maiden skin. 😅It's definitely bad but maybe "unusuable" wasn't the right word to use. I would still love to see it changed though.

[@vengeance6801]

These environmental collision changes also hurt my trickster :(

[@latenightnomad]

I see a lot of people saying this and it's unfortunate because it just encourages us to play in unfun ways :(

[@battlemoist3811]

As a member of the dredge main community，we hope slinger gets fixed

[@Soviet_Maro]

He's my main man, and i been not wanting to play him for months given how i keep hearing about collision issues and general sight problems for his irons, i want to be able to play the character i love, and play him right proper without having to work around invisible walls and piss poor sights. Let Our CowBoy Shoot proper dammit!

[@Isaac_646]

I never even noticed how innacurate Caleb's weapons are when aiming. And the fact that the redeemer is a projectile and not hitscan always messes with my brain. I guess that comes from playing a lot of sniper in tf2.

[@dededede9257]

There is so much killer that are bug rn this is crazy. For collision there are weird since they change it in some patch on macbone maps for whatever reason (that have just give more issue on maps in lol) for example you can now be on bed of ormond without glitch

[@NotJakeSlay]

Well done with the video. I think it was great that even though you could have taken an antagonistic route and criticized the developers you instead chose to remain level headed and address the primary issues at hand and I hope that other slingers will share that same tone to prevent any negative repercussions such as further delay for the killer we have all learned to love over the years.

[@kuninagako9035]

i know the pain i play spirit and there are a lot of games where audio just stops working making your power worthless and now stuck as a 110 m1 killer

[@mrdrfeesh]

Seriously great video. Really wish more people would give slinger love. Keep slaying king 🗣🔥(the bird was really funny)

[@PirateDonk_]

I still wonder if they even test Skins and the Weapons in intern because such an obvious mistake like those shouldn't even be possible unless the devs are absolutely blind.

[@PirateDonk_]

The iron sight is the absolute core gameplay of Deathslinger and the fact they do not give much look to it is just mind blowing

[@latenightnomad]

Yeah, I don't want to bash them too hard but there's no way someone tested this skin. I just find that impossible to believe.

[@Alex-zp1ry]

If it makes you feel any better, I think all the new skins are pretty bugged. The soma skin in the battle pass in particular has some straight up cursed facial animations on the hook as an example. Hopefully they fix them soon.

[@senatorarmstrong1233]

Oh Deathslinger, my beloved. The day they took away his quick scoping made me cry.

[@suffhunter23]

you and me both brother.........

[@dylanlin8828]

I don’t mind the quick scope remove, I do hate how they made his radius 32 meters

[@dylon2314]

Quick scoping was absolutely ridiculous bro, imagine if huntress could instantly fire a hatchet without winding up? You had to constantly guess when the slinger was going to shoot, same shit is happening with xenomorph now too, his power is impossible to react to.

[@tobiasgabrielaranda7874]

The hit animation is broken or it just feels wrong comparing it on what it used to be

[@bigpig88]

I was so pissed the sights are bugged with the blighted skin, i lost 4 matches in a row because of it

[@ROMVVAN]

I agree with every word! Although, it would be better if they didn’t remove the quickscope) But regarding the problems, everything is correct

[@FinestFantasyVI]

This is my first video in the Slinger main videos yt hole. And Im into it. Gonna check out the linked video and dunno where to stop. Might check more your videos, cuz this is relatable Plus, I still need that Slinger adept I fumbled it so badly that a slug found the hatch and didnt touch him since

[@latenightnomad]

Thanks for the comment and support, glad to be your intro to Slinger content on YT! If you want some good gameplay, check out Osuchin Riberu and Zapples. Akeeno and Comrade Cheeze have some useful resources (comparisons and such) + hexagrem is just starting her channel if you want more content :^)

[@FinestFantasyVI]

@@latenightnomad Im a Trickster main and usually watch anything with our favourite DBD kpop man. But I do feel a solidarity with Slinger mains in how we're both treated and how our killers are handled. I checked out the Akeeno video. And it was real helpful. Thanks for the other reccommends, def gonna see em. Im so glad YT recommended me you. As much as I love Coconut, I much MUCH prefer Slinger over Huntress. I def wanna git gud on Slinger. Especially since you guys are lucky to get him on 2v8 soon. Since you have that and that unfortunate Blighted skin. Maybe it might lead to a Slinger glow up and fix his issues. Heres hoping Behaviour gives him some love and not just Skull Merchant

[@ComradeCheeze]

@@latenightnomadGoofy ahh shoutout

[@MissionControlDRG]

The hitbox like trapper, whenever they find something cheeky to use powers i it gets removed

[@Drimirin]

I mained him before the quickscope nerf. So many unused anniversary cakes on him.

[@ogcoolg]

the lis music was calming af thank u

[@ChannelYumYum]

I feel your pain, being someone who plays most Killers and constantly runs into bugs that have been unfixed for months or changes to maps that affect my power. It's genuinely a lot to keep up with.

[@Imperial_Pandaa]

Poor Slinger needs more love.

[@ZzZapples]

great killer

[@killerstreak1994]

Oh hi I know you! Hopefully they fix everything you mentioned.

[@bogdan2k943]

Played him so much I can't remember last time I layed my hands on him , I got hated on for playing with an m1 based build lol

[@apertioopening3425]

lol I haven't touched Slinger since they removed his quickscope, funny how different perspectives can be

[@latenightnomad]

Don't get me wrong, it was fun to play with the old quickscope. But it was also really uninteractive for the survivors and I think the current version of Slinger is still enjoyable. I'd rather have this version over one that people hated going against even more.

[@xyz12259]

This is why I find it insane when people say that BHVR have been "doing a good job recently". How is it possible that something like that blighted cosmetic gets into the game? Actually I know why it's possible, literally no one at all even booted up the game ONCE to test the $15 cosmetic they were adding. Would've taken less than 2 minutes. When Ghostface had his classic robe added, it would cover up half the screen due to the flaps hanging off his sleeve. These things only happen when absolutely no one goes into a game to test the skin at all. It's so laughable. In terms of Slinger's actual state, it's miserable. Why is he still 110 with a 32 meter terror radius? Why does the chain still break so easily to the point where landing snipes/gap shots doesn't matter because the survivor will just break free and you'll never get the down? It sucks. I stopped playing after they made the hook stages 70 seconds. Nuked his pressure to negative levels (he already had zero map pressure) and also made other weaker killers miserable to play. Then people on Reddit will tell you that it's not a problem if you're not tunneling, and that's who BHVR listens to unfortunately. Sucks.

[@latenightnomad]

The issue is that BHVR is frustratingly inconsistent. I really don't want to bash them too hard but it pisses me off when I see amazing hitboxes on a map like Midwich, then horrible ones on Swamp or Autohaven. They clearly put in a lot of effort for certain things, then seemingly phone it in on others. For what it's worth, I think Slinger is perfectly playable and the 32m TR isn't that big a deal, but I do agree somewhat. He feels miserable at times in large part due to map and add-on design.

[@ABSEUDUS]

Idk about the other Trickster mains, but I noticed these random walls popping up too. Trickster and Slinger both have similar projectile size and it sucks to suddenly not being able to shoot over certain obstacles anymore. As someone who plays both, I'd rather have the slinger issues on Trickster as well, than the stuff we're having on-going right now. :/ Good video though, thumb up. 👍

[@latenightnomad]

Glad to hear that Slinger isn't the only one affected by this issue. I mean obviously it sucks that y'all deal with it too but the issue being more widespread means there's more of a chance it'll get fixed. All we can do is hope and pray it gets addressed 🙏

[@ABSEUDUS]

@@latenightnomad I wouldn't hope for that - we are now almost a year without any comms from BHVR side about the s**** state of trickster. I made a video on that on my own channel "6 months of RevertTrickster" in case you want to see what's going on on our side.

[@latenightnomad]

@@ABSEUDUS I think a lot of things in DBD are in dire need of fixing and I'm sure Trickster is no different. I'll definitely check it out! Thanks for the insight and sharing the video with me.

[@ABSEUDUS]

@@latenightnomad The difference is just, Trickster in the past was fine, nobody asked for the change and now he's less fun and more bugged than before. :/ But yeah, a load of stuff needs to be fixed, I agree. No worries, thank you for highlighting the issues on Slinger

[@Drunk_Viking1]

My friend was really excited for blighted slinger, I was too, but first thing i wanted to see was the weapon. Said buddy of mine shared his screen in discord and as soon as i saw him aim down the sights it was an instant "yikes" from me xD I recently bought the Eddie skin for him (from the iron maiden colab) but that was mainly for the sake of 2v8 coming out. Maybe in 2v8 he'll be more fun? or maybe there will be more issues xD But holding out hope regardless :)

[@latenightnomad]

Seeing the Blighted weapon sights was like a kick in the nuts man haha. I've never been so let down when it comes to a skin release I'm hopeful too. Gotta stay optimistic

[@kerchuchu]

the throngler loves you

[@latenightnomad]

LONG LIVE THE THRONG

[@anti1iberal]

2:15 - about this bug This was also the case with Piercing Collar(+deep rift), when Tortured Nightmare came out, his hat also appeared when you lifted your head and walked, and it was especially noticeable when you were stunned with a pallet, and it was quite funny, but annoying. Аnd as for the skins, you could add another body from the Railroad Warden skin + Remaining Wrangle, where the hands just hang in the air not attached to the body, and it's a shame, because these are my favorite skins that I used for my "custom skin". I have nothing to say about rifle skins, it's just incompetence for 5 years of Deathslinger's existence not to calibrate them, I just don't take any rifle skins because of this, because I'm too used to "Death to Bayshore", although at one time when I mastered it I took skins, and it was a serious mistake...

[@latenightnomad]

The Railroad Warden skin also had a bug where the scarf was visible when you aimed up, similar to how the hair is visible on the Blighted skin. Unfortunately most of us just pick one rifle to main (usually Killjoy or something) and never swap off. It sucks because I would really like some more variety.

[@critter7460]

Hex Crowd control is bugged right now, literally stays up the entire match sometimes

[@latenightnomad]

Even if the hex is cleansed?

[@critter7460]

@@latenightnomad no, but crowd control is supposed to be only 5 seconds, I've played in a match where crowd control was up the entire 15min of the match it never unblocked the windows, pretty sure it's bugged on doctor

[@latenightnomad]

@@critter7460 Oh, well that's because Crowd Control got buffed recently and it lasts forever now (until the hex is cleansed.) That's just a feature, not a bug. The DBD Wiki has some more information on it.

[@Vilmer69]

I didn't know Jim Halpert started playing DBD

[@latenightnomad]

Just a Jim looking for my Pam :(

[@YaTebyaNashel]

I can not agree more about Iron Maiden skin, it is so awesome yet his gun makes me never play this skin, I remember posting on twitter asking if they could change it, I think I got 2 likes? Sadge

[@FinestFantasyVI]

You shouldve posted a Sable image with your question to get more attention, clearly

[@YaTebyaNashel]

@@FinestFantasyVI true xdd

[@latenightnomad]

Yeah, unfortunately Deathslinger doesn't get a lot of attention. I'm genuinely worried that if the Blighted set doesn't get fixed in the next week or so, it'll never be addressed :/

[@YaTebyaNashel]

@@latenightnomad they'll definitely fix blight gun, they already had a few issues with other guns, they got fixed relatively quick(1 or 2 hotfixes?), so I wouldn't worry about blighted skin whatsoever B-)

[@Scaredmask]

The iron maiden gun was built like that, its meant to be a scoped weapon and it actually makes your aim easier

[@latenightnomad]

I feel like I could get past the boxes/"scope" if the spike was accurate. The bottom half of the sight ruins it. I think the gun is an active detriment to your aim and impacts your shots in a negative way, personally.

[@P41ma1]

I started relatively recently on the game. Slinger for me is one of the most fun characters. He's the killer i have the most levels on. His power is so simple. However i do also realize that for a decent amount of games it kinda sucks to play as him. I know getting shots through holes, windows, cracks, and even breaks in the walls are nice but damn does it sometimes feel tedious to do so. Then, as if to add insult to injury for playing the killer, even if you land your shots over and over, you can't put survivors into the dying state. The farthest you can do is put them into mending. You still have to get the m1 in regardless if you make shots. You can try shooting again to get the m1, but chances are the chain will break before you're even close. And with how much shit is in the way on most maps, yeah, the odds aren't in your favor. Then let's say you can land your shots and you can land your hits. Great, perfect. But then you're still playing a slow killer, and still have to worry about pallets and windows. On top of that; with no map pressure, if you're not bringing majority gen defensive perks; that game will be quick with the average player probably only gonna get 2 kills

[@latenightnomad]

Deathslinger is a really hard killer to master, and (no hate to anyone) I would say nobody plays him perfectly. It may seem like it's impossible to get downs at times but that's usually because of your positioning, your chain influence, or when you shoot the survivor. I can't explain it too much better than that, but my point is that the tediousness and frustration does pay off at a certain point. He's rewarding when you put the time in, but until then he'll always feel lackluster.

[@suffhunter23]

There's a bug with STBFL where simply shooting the obsession takes away your token, if you hit them it takes another 2 but if the chain breaks and gives them deep wounds it doesn't take otkens away, I told the devs about this 2-3 months ago....where's the freaking bug fix bhvr? why do they hate this killer so much?

[@c_c9592]

> There's a bug with STBFL where simply shooting the obsession takes away your token It's not the bug, the BHVR have confirmed this on the forum

[@suffhunter23]

@@c_c9592 it is a bug injuring them by breaking the chain should take away tokens not simply having the harpoon hitting them, if plague pukes on the survivor she won't lose a token until they get broken, it the same with deathslinger

[@suffhunter23]

@@c_c9592 it is a bug, when you puke on the obsession with the plague you don't lose tokens until it becomes broken so why ain't in the case for deathslinger? You should lose tokens only if you injure them by breaking the chain or hitting them, you lose 4 stacks if you shoot and hit them, this ain't how it is supposed to be at all.

[@latenightnomad]

This is actually intentional, I believe BHVR confirmed it on the forum as my friend Leo (c_c) said earlier.

[@suffhunter23]

@@latenightnomad it makes 0 sense!! This means he's the only killer that can go from 8 stacks to 0 by using his power twice on the obsession, what kind of bs is that???

[@cameronroddy9316]

I am still salty over the TR nerf. Deathslinger has a limited range and he is slow so it makes sense for him too have a lower TR, his old TR gave you just the right distance to get a shot off at the start of a chase or to get a sneaky shot off but now a good survivor will just pre-run focing the Deathslinger to chase and and hope he does not miss that first shot or just look for another survivor.

[@latenightnomad]

The problem is that lowering his TR back to 24m makes it possible to snipe survivors who don't even know you're there when using Monitor & Abuse/TR reduction add-ons. I'd much rather see an add-on pass first, followed by some light tweaks to his base-kit. I think his TR should be the last thing that gets touched and if it does need to be changed, I would try something unique like 28m.

[@w1llrg]

@@latenightnomad I think they should just add a new property on killers that locks the terror radius size no matter what and only addons could change it. This way we can have slinger back to 24m without worrying about perks. He isn't the only killer in the game that could benefit from something like this, I can already think of Wesker who has 40 meters of terror radius and I'm pretty sure this is because with MnA he could dash across his entire TR if he was 32.

[@latenightnomad]

@@w1llrg I don't _hate_ the idea, but it also removes variety. Even though it isn't good, I love doing things like Stealthslinger and I'd be sad if it were to get removed.

[@w1llrg]

@@latenightnomad I agree about the variety thing but as far as I remember there are only distressing and MnA in the game which alter your terror radius directly. The way I see it, at least for slinger, is that it's a chance to create stronger addons around that. I'm thinking about the two that reduce your TR when you aim, I forgot their name.

[@impermanentLucidity]

8.3.0 is so goofy that even SLINGER mains got shafted, what did BHVR smoke 😭

[@Koobuku]

Great vid Nomad! Lots of valid points here

[@dave3895]

honestly I disagree about the ads part, he was fine with it, he was the chase killer mid A or top B , no map mobility, or map pressure just chase, but after the big ads and terror radius nerfs, he is mediocre, he has a decent chase power but he gets punished severely more than any other killer and his power is worse at accomplishing what other killers already can do, a power that can catch far a away survivors, blight and nurse,singularity,huntress? anti loop? nurse,spirit,blight, trickster has the most oppresive chase power on low loops and in open areas, he is a low b tier killer now, everything he does can be done better by other killers, just revert the nerfs and he becomes an actual strong again.

[@alexbarker6968]

Funny you should say about being able to catch far away survivors, because he's not even particularly good at doing that, his maximum range being 18 meters and his movement speed being 110 means that for some weird reason the best counter to this ranged killer is to hold it forward, as long as you can get line of sight blockers he will pretty much never catch you. I was playing him on groaning storehouse the other day and the main building and that weird rectangular structure with no windows or pallets around it are genuinely infinites against him, the survivor will always round the corner before you can get them in your sights, which means you'll never even start chase

[@latenightnomad]

I try to spread my time on DBD equally between survivor and killer, and I don't think old quickscope Slinger was healthy for the game. I think he's fine right now, all he really needs is an add-on pass (and for the obvious bugs to be addressed.) Ultimately I think we just have to agree to disagree on that front, but thank you for the comment and engaging in some civil conversation. You don't see that much in the DBD community nowadays.

[@Spookedtonight]

Do you have all slinger guns because if you do making a vid of them all would be really cool to see all the different iron sights

[@latenightnomad]

I do. I considered this but I figured Akeeno had covered everything in his guide and didn't want to step on his territory yaknow :p

[@Spookedtonight]

@@latenightnomad oh didn’t know that I might have to go watch it then

[@qzeca7456]

liking and commenting for the algorithm 🫡

[@latenightnomad]

Thank you for the support, it helps more than you could ever know!

[@buckiemohawk3643]

the problem with gunslinger is he was made for a different era of dbd. than they are exploitable with you can run around a rock and tight lope and i can never hit you. I also found the Dredges Iron Maiden collection the skin is horrible

[@Phantom_Kraken]

(Not a slinger player) I never considered how y’all get fudged by map hit boxes because on my boi singularity I just shoot again when my shot fails y’all gotta commit to your one shot😰

[@latenightnomad]

Oh yeah, big time. Every time you miss a shot on Slinger, the survivor gets at least 5-8+ seconds of distance and the chase will usually end immediately. He's pretty punishing when you miss, but is super fun and rewarding which is why we play him.

[@bayramzade8666]

And let me say about Dracula hell fire bug If you look at the sky litlle bit and use hell fire sur dont take any damage even if sur stay in the fire's

[@latenightnomad]

Hmm. I've been playing a lot of Dracula recently (Currently P40, working on P100) and I can't say I've noticed this. I'll keep an eye out though because that seems like a pretty big issue.

[@bayramzade8666]

@@latenightnomad yesterday i was playing and i see someone want sabo hook and i close too him i swear he dont even get hit by hellfire 🤣 Next time i will record

[@latenightnomad]

@@bayramzade8666 Yeah, definitely post it on YT or somewhere like reddit, because that sounds pretty serious. It would suck if two of my favorite killers were bugged lmao

[@w1llrg]

I pretty much don't play anymore, and I've been maining slinger ever since he came out. I've never really dug that deep into all the tiny shots you can take but I agree it's so frustrating when from one update to another things change for seemingly no reason and they're not mentioned. Shack windows being completely blocked out of nowhere, tress like the one in badham you've shown... The most frustrating part is that they don't seem to have a sense of consistency in those changes. On Coldwind you can shoot on top of hay bails loop right above a rope if I recall, the shot is very tight and so impractical but possible. Then you have completely opened spots that look like they're a breeze to shoot through and they're just closed. Honestly, this is not only a slinger problem, in his case it's the hitboxes, but overall the game has a serious lack of polishing on specific things like this one. When you've played a lot, you start to notice them more and more and it's just sad when you realize that the devs don't really care about polishing, as long as it works it's good enough... That's why I stopped playing entirely.

[@latenightnomad]

I wanted to make a video talking about the inconsistencies of hitboxes in this game, your Coldwind point is precisely why. On some maps it feels like BHVR put in hours of work, other times they just carpet everything with an invisible wall and call it a day.

[@devilsmessanger]

try also tweeting link to this vid to devs, posting on forums, etc. any try worth it .

[@jineteafortunado8190]

And i got him P100 recently

[@latenightnomad]

Congrats!

[@M1SS_VK]

I dont know if it's still the same i refuse to even try it but every gun skin changes his scope accuracy except the default. Its been like that for a while, so i play with only default despite having some nice skins i want to use. It's so ridiculous. Also thanks for addressing the bot side movement because I thought it was me. I was changing settings thinking it was my game bugging. The amount of time I've had people dc and then the bot just can't be reeled in from a sharpshooter shot

[@StoneKnight1]

Lol, nobody at bhvr plays fps and it shows. Cuz i can understand one skin having obscured iron sight, but so many?

[@TheNightFinder]

One thing more. Make slinger 4.6ms

[@latenightnomad]

I don't think any projectile killer should be 4.6m/s. It would just make him oppressive in an unfun way, there are other things that should happen first before his movement speed is touched IMO.

[@DCPTF2]

wait you where happy they removed quick scoping?, why stronger killers are better then wastes of money

[@MissionControlDRG]

It was uncountable it had zero skill

[@DCPTF2]

@@MissionControlDRG oh no you mean like Voice coms or the hundred other survivor second chance perks?, almost like the other side is more powerful so nerfing killers is a bad idea

[@latenightnomad]

I think Deathslinger is still strong in the right hands. Quickscoping was just really uninteractive for the survivors and their experience matters, too. I don't think any killer should be able to zone that easily and effectively. While I don't think Slinger is in a perfect spot, I'd much rather have this version over the old one.

[@canadiandemo9073]

Look how they massacred my boy...

[@Dumah36]

i dont play him just because his addons dont really do anything. Only a few are even worth it.

[@latenightnomad]

His add-ons are definitely in a rough spot. I'll consider making a video touching on it because I think it's one of his most glaring issues right now :p

[@Antarctide]

In what world do Cigar, green reload and exposed iri do nothing

[@chatonsky]

Very pizdato, keep making content sinior

[@TheOniDaddy]

I think you can still Quick Scope/Drag Scope. I don't have much issues with fast aiming + shooting and hitting my targets

[@latenightnomad]

You can quick scope in the sense that you can aim and then fire almost immediately, I meant quick scoping how pre-nerf Slinger could :p Old Slinger basically had no cooldown or delay when aiming, it was pretty much instant.

[@nonvolt]

I play perkless slinger all the time. Imagine doing this with bugged skins 😂

[@latenightnomad]

I was considering doing this for a video 💀it sounds so bad

[@nonvolt]

@latenightnomad yeah, it's a fun challenge xD kinda like perkless naughty bear, I feel he's slow on the pick up

[@Urayxor]

I stopped playing him after he got nerfed

[@SkyGod010]

not an expert but i believe some of the collision problems are there because of out of bounds bugs i see it very possible that the rpd thing you mentioned was changed because someone got on top of it somehow

[@DestroyerBG1]

I might play deathslinger today but his speed and terror radius are huge problem. I got no real skins for my killers since i refuse to support behaviour with their dumb decisions. But damn the survivor side also sucks a lot. You stand no chance if you are not in swf group. Solo que is just death sentence almost always. It just sucks a lot. Playing killer now is the only way but I like being killer anyways so

[@wheremybike]

idk what your problem is w/ the iron maiden skin's sight- it's literally better than stock

[@latenightnomad]

I mean, sorry, but that's just wrong. You're more than welcome to like the Iron Maiden skin but it's objectively inaccurate and poorly designed for newer/intermediate players.

[@blickybear]

I expect nothing less from BHVR

[@dankmemes3153]

Thats why i use monitor crosshair 😂

[@Chunta24]

Its is 2024 the game has been out for 8 years. This is ridiculous w8th the fact the every and I mena every dam update patch its bugs.The know dbd has a monopoly in this sub category and a dedicated player base so they can be this careless. Can you honestly fully defend them when they had years and money to fix this but no here's a new skins now with added bugs.

[@monkeyblue22]

Bird up

[@latenightnomad]

Welcome to Bird Up, the WORST show on television 🗣🗣 BIRD UP 🗣🗣

[@TheTrial-np9qy]

👍

[@mcahtme2977]

:41 You not glad they changed it, you just don’t want to be attacked in the comments lol. My first killer I played with was Slinger. I ran monitor & abuse with him & was literally snatching survivors off gens when his terror radius was still 24 meters. They nerfed his terror radius to 32 or whatever the main radius is but didn’t buff his movement speed. All in all he needs a whole rework. They need to stop catering to all complaining survivors, do to the new killers like nerfing chucky twice & rework some of the older killers like Slinger.

[@latenightnomad]

I am glad they changed it and I really don't care what other people have to say about my opinions, I can handle being attacked. I thought the old quickscope was unhealthy for the game just as I thought old Chucky was unhealthy for the game. Survivor perspectives matter too, killer players are not the only ones who matter. Without them we can't play, and without us, they can't play.

[@mcahtme2977]

@@latenightnomad I respect your opinion but disagree. The last 4/5 updates has been catered to survivors, so there’s a reason for the us vs them mentality. Extra 10 seconds on the hook is healthy for the game too.

[@latenightnomad]

@@mcahtme2977 Now are you going to mention Billy's buffs, the Dredge buffs, the Nemesis buffs, the Bubba buffs, the Huntress buffs, the Doctor buffs, the Clown buffs, the Pig buffs, the Singularity buffs, the med-kit nerfs, any of that? What about this latch patch with the Distortion nerf & Predator buff? Or 8.1.0 with a ton of buffs to killer perks like I'm All Ears? Respectfully, what you said is just blatantly false. If you take 2 seconds to look at the patch notes and what is really being changed, you'll see that both sides get buffed fairly equally. You're more than welcome to dislike the state of the game, but don't act like killer only gets nerfed and survivor only gets buffed. The "us vs. them" mentality is a problematic and flawed way to look at the game. Thanks for the comment though, appreciate the discussion.

[@mcahtme2977]

@@latenightnomad Billy deserved a buff, Dredge got a .2 second buff I actually do read the patch notes & he still gets looped by the better survivors in high mmr. Nemesis is more viable now in high mmr. Clown & Pig buffs you can’t even notice. But what about the death of Skull Merchant, Knight nerf? They’re going to nerf Myers next year lol, basekit borrowed time survivors don’t even use that perk anymore. And towards end game it’s a automatic escape if the hook is right by the exit gates. Pain res nerf, call of brine nerf. There’s a Gen kick limit now & all the good gen defense perks aren’t good anymore. Can’t use Surge because it count towards the Gen kick limit. I can easily say your argument is nowhere near what’s happening to the killer side. But again, agree to disagree.

[@ComradeCheeze]

Wack

[@futakisser]

Deathslinger heralded an new era of killers that would straight up go against the grain of what made DbD an enjoyable experience in the first place. DS himself isn't enjoyable to play as, or survive against - that is irrefutable (unless of course you're coping). I can't sympathise with what you're saying, and I seriously hope he gets left in the gutter.

[@latenightnomad]

I can't tell you what killers you should or shouldn't enjoy going against, but your comment isn't constructive and doesn't really contribute anything to the discussion I'm trying to have. I enjoy going against Deathslinger and that's not "cope." Thanks for the engagement.

[@mrdrfeesh]

just cause you don't like playing him or going against him doesn't mean that's true.

[@futakisser]

@@latenightnomad *you enjoy playing against terrible Deathslingers. Good Deathslinger gameplay doesn't offer anything interesting in any direction, it's either an easy win, or a confirmed death. And it's not like the ceiling is awfully high, since it's based on one of the most basic and transferrable gaming skills. My comment is precisely constructive. As a matter of fact, it's meta. I hope Deathslinger rots. He is unhealthy for the game.

[@latenightnomad]

@@futakisser I play with and against some of the best Deathslingers in the world, it's a fun experience when you both know the mindgames and potential gap shots. Also, FPS games =/= DBD? I don't even know how to respond to that without sounding insulting, that's just laughably incorrect. Your preferences are not the same as mine, and that's fine, but no, you're not being constructive. Don't try and act like you are. A constructive person would suggest ways for the killer to be tweaked to be better for everyone rather than saying "I hope he gets left in the gutter." Again, thanks for the engagement, don't think I'll be responding again.

[@futakisser]

@@latenightnomad knowledge pertaining to playing and outplaying Deathslinger, as you've just established, is comparably incredibly esoteric. That is anti-fun, and horrible design, because that means that most people aren't playing (as or against) DS in the way that the self-proclaimed, most qualified are. Also, leaving a killer in the gutter is absolutely a valid approach. Not every content installment, especially ones made by a dev as rickety as BHVR, deserves to be, and belongs in DbD. Edit: unironically typing out "thanks for the engagement" is kind of low aura

[@BigCheeseEvie]

Honestly just switch to huntress. She's like top 4

[@MissionControlDRG]

Person: gets charcter they love absolutely gutted or neglected Community: how about instead of requesting changes, you abandon them for another character

[@BigCheeseEvie]

@@MissionControlDRG damn cry about it I guess

[@latenightnomad]

I'd rather not change my main entirely because of some bugs. I play Huntress occasionally, and while I enjoy her, I don't see myself maining her. Also, suggesting that we drop the killer entirely isn't exactly constructive. I don't think it's cool for you to comment that, then respond "cry about it" when someone takes issue with it.

[@MissionControlDRG]

The hitbox like trapper, whenever they find something cheeky to use powers i it gets removed