The Stone Roses: The Volatile Rise and Fall of the Band - John Squire, Ian Brown, Reni, Mani

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@rnrtruestories
@rnrtruestories 3 жыл бұрын
had a lot of people requesting the stone roses. So here it is.
@Archi574
@Archi574 3 жыл бұрын
how about The Libertines?
@rnrtruestories
@rnrtruestories 3 жыл бұрын
@@Archi574 yes I have had a lot of requests for them too….
@Archi574
@Archi574 3 жыл бұрын
@@rnrtruestories yesss I would love to see you cover them!
@rob5249
@rob5249 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to breaking into Heaven
@Sundog1985
@Sundog1985 3 жыл бұрын
How about Lush?
@mikewilson3581
@mikewilson3581 3 жыл бұрын
The debut album? Just incredible. The intro to I Wanna Be Adored with Squire's guitar cutting in? Just shivers!
@r.edward5701
@r.edward5701 3 жыл бұрын
I went for a spin in the SUV and put it on. I haven't listened to them in quite some time as my music changes with my moods. Don't know if it's coz I'm older but it really hit me. You're bang on with that intro. Full of little rundowns etc.. and the bass groove. We need more of this.
@phillylifer
@phillylifer 2 жыл бұрын
How did he manage it? It is beyond.
@redred9882
@redred9882 2 жыл бұрын
Still my fav album of all time. It still feels raw and fresh all these years later
@devidwobinson8747
@devidwobinson8747 11 ай бұрын
Ten story love song too…just wow
@TheMancMod01
@TheMancMod01 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid growing up in Manchester during the 80s & 90s the roses were god like to us. Now in my late 40s I still listen to their music and remember how good we had it back then.
@paulenicola
@paulenicola 3 жыл бұрын
"The Stone Roses" remains among my top 15 albums ever.
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 3 жыл бұрын
Perfection from beginning to end.
@DannyBoi2112
@DannyBoi2112 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@whistlebelly
@whistlebelly 3 жыл бұрын
It's in My Top One!
@nervesinapattern7261
@nervesinapattern7261 3 жыл бұрын
Even their early b sides are unbelievably good.
@redacted2275
@redacted2275 3 жыл бұрын
Not only the album, the singles too.
@nervesinapattern7261
@nervesinapattern7261 3 жыл бұрын
Reni is one of the greatest drummers to come out of the Manchester scene. Unbelievably good band
@dannypotter2043
@dannypotter2043 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best British drummers ever, nevermind Manchester.
@nervesinapattern7261
@nervesinapattern7261 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannypotter2043 absolutely
@stevenclark7218
@stevenclark7218 3 жыл бұрын
@@nervesinapattern7261 hes no stephen morris imo, that guy had stamina
@empireman1077
@empireman1077 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannypotter2043 Bruce Mitchell : The Durutti Column Stephen Morris : JD/NO
@giveusanepleasebob992
@giveusanepleasebob992 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant drummer but I wonder what he's up to now. He's very quiet isn't he.
@poolboyinla
@poolboyinla 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna be adored....
@DannyBoi2112
@DannyBoi2112 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna I wanna, I wanna be adored...
@r.edward5701
@r.edward5701 3 жыл бұрын
This song blew my mind
@christinanull2435
@christinanull2435 3 жыл бұрын
amazing song
@blackpeter70
@blackpeter70 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was "I wanna be a dog"! Is this why those lager-crazed louts tried to beat me up at that last party?
@michellerosebrown
@michellerosebrown 3 жыл бұрын
Yea.
@redred9882
@redred9882 Жыл бұрын
The debut album remains a classic and just never fades. The Stone Roses saved me as a kid. Legends!!
@mc26collum
@mc26collum 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you like the Stone Roses?" is the only question I ask when I meet a new guy.
@thegorn
@thegorn 3 жыл бұрын
Marry me. Lol
@thedude4672
@thedude4672 3 жыл бұрын
And if he answers, "Yes," then you know that he's either gay or from Manchester.
@empireman1077
@empireman1077 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedude4672 it that 🤣, sorry for laughing
@empireman1077
@empireman1077 3 жыл бұрын
I used to like them, does it still count 😘🤞 I wanna be adored 📀💐
@Tufarock
@Tufarock 3 жыл бұрын
I adore them
@JulezWinnfield
@JulezWinnfield 3 жыл бұрын
I often hear them on Pandora in my car. "She Bangs the Drum" is my favorite song of theirs.
@HarryBuddhaPalm
@HarryBuddhaPalm 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's how I came across them. "I wanna be adored" would come up a lot.
@empireman1077
@empireman1077 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest how many bands over the decades have their 1st album released with so many choices of singles The whole sound and production makes it so powerful It was better than I thought, just like hearing the Smiths or the chameleons first 📀
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 3 жыл бұрын
When ecstasy got football hooligans loving each other in clubs and everyone remembered they still loved guitars, good times! 🇬🇧😍🎸
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 3 жыл бұрын
"How Soon Is Now" and "I Wanna Be Adored." They are two super songs of an era of British rock that I wish would have lasted.
@blackpeter70
@blackpeter70 3 жыл бұрын
They do in my house, mate.
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackpeter70 mine too. Forever!
@blackpeter70
@blackpeter70 3 жыл бұрын
@@chelseagirl278 I think I like Second Coming better than the first album. It's a lot more consistent - every song's a winner! I even love John Squire's Jimmy Page-isms. He's perfect.
@matthewmead2374
@matthewmead2374 3 жыл бұрын
The Smiths and the Stone Rose's. Two bands that boggle my mind that they aren't huge in the states. From my understanding, the Smiths are appreciated with the same reverence reserved for the Beatles in England. And for great reason. The songwriting of Morrissey and Marr is some of the best written rock and pop songs ever. It's not easy to be catchy and artistic. The Beatles are huge because their songs are catchy yet totally uncompromised artistically. I can think of two more bands I can fit in that category. Smiths and Stone Roses. You guys in England have "how soon is now" while over here we have "I wanna sex you up". Is it any wonder how we elect a man who casually discusses grabbing women by their genitals as his art of seduction. Not even sure how that is possible. I think he may have been confusing men with woman, but hey that's a different topic for a different video.
@paulcronin3626
@paulcronin3626 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackpeter70 correction. You need more than a few slaps.
@Rezn8d0utlaw
@Rezn8d0utlaw 3 жыл бұрын
Love Spreads from their last album is one of My favorite songs.
@redacted2275
@redacted2275 3 жыл бұрын
The Stone Roses are huge in the UK, Ian Brown is practically the "Godfather" for 80s/90s British kids... people like to say Liam Gallagher borrowed Lennon's mannerisms and no, it's Ian Brown that really influenced Liam's persona. Timing was not everything for the Stone Roses, though... I love them.
@laurencegreen1705
@laurencegreen1705 3 жыл бұрын
"The UK and wales..." ....think we need a geography lesson here...
@endlessrage4062
@endlessrage4062 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love other countries knowledge of the British Isles. 🤣🤣
@TheArthouseReview
@TheArthouseReview Жыл бұрын
​@endlessrage4062 My favourite years ago, in a film documentary was: Scotland is a small island Southwest of London. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Nebulous0_o
@Nebulous0_o 11 ай бұрын
“Is London near England or is England in London!?”. I overheard a nasally Karen-like voice say on a transatlantic flight. You can’t make it up.
@shaunw9270
@shaunw9270 10 ай бұрын
​@@endlessrage4062In my experience it's not "other countries" , it's just Americans have zero idea of anything outside of the States 😅
@robertknight5429
@robertknight5429 10 ай бұрын
@@shaunw9270 or very much inside it, or anything at all.
@blakecampbell1520
@blakecampbell1520 3 жыл бұрын
They along with Happy Mondays are two incredible bands that I'm forever grateful for discovering.
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I will forever love those bands!
@blakecampbell1520
@blakecampbell1520 3 жыл бұрын
@Patrick O’Donohue My personal favorite is Squirrel and G-Man but I love Pills n Thrills. I adore the Stone Roses but I think if any album perfectly represents the madchester sound, Pills n Thrills was it.
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
@Patrick O’Donohue I thought about this last week. I also loved Black Grape 🍇 !
@rickhardman7376
@rickhardman7376 3 жыл бұрын
@Patrick O’Donohue James and The Smiths
@campbellgraham1979
@campbellgraham1979 3 жыл бұрын
@Patrick O’Donohue The Mondays were more original, fusing together rock & roll and music from the Chicago house scene. The Roses did great songs too but I always saw them as a slightly more updated version of The Smiths.
@kanthakathewhite1012
@kanthakathewhite1012 3 жыл бұрын
What a great band and I'm lucky to have witnessed them live ❤
@rocketpoolpki
@rocketpoolpki 3 жыл бұрын
awesome...Brownies solo stuff is also epic...
@thegorn
@thegorn 3 жыл бұрын
And not a single mention of “Fools Gold” are you kidding me? That played on the Australian National University’s uni bar jukebox non stop throughout 1993-1994
@ScottDonnelly-gs4xm
@ScottDonnelly-gs4xm 7 ай бұрын
And a lot of other tunes no ones kidding you?
@marshy1499
@marshy1499 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the town in the North of England called Widnes..Its where the famous Stone Roses gig took place ..I was there 16 yrs old ..I've loved this band from the day I heard them and still in my top 5 bands ( English indi scene) ..Love from Liverpool
@Sp00ky-Spice09
@Sp00ky-Spice09 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of what people might say, I love Second Coming as well 💖 It takes a lot of guts to release an album like that in 1994.
@bernicia-sc2iw
@bernicia-sc2iw Жыл бұрын
I see it as being more like a proto-Seahorses record rather than the Roses.
@bernicia-sc2iw
@bernicia-sc2iw 3 жыл бұрын
In 89/90 people truly believed the Roses were going to save music. I was one of them. It's hard to grasp now just how important they were . By the time Second Coming was finally released they were already a nostalgia act. Its a shame but in the end they are a lesson in how the music industry destroys bands , as well as how to piss away your own career. Good first album though.
@neilreading3552
@neilreading3552 3 жыл бұрын
Good? Name a better one.....
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 2 жыл бұрын
In the Court of the Crimson King, Appettite for Destruction, Fragile, Close to the Edge, Going for the One, Rust in Peace, Abbey Road, The White Album, Bob Dylan, The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, The Number of the Beast, Ritual de lo Habitual, Led Zeppelin IV, Quadrophenia, London Calling. Stone Roses is definitely amazing though.
@Burnryder
@Burnryder 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilreading3552 garageflower
@bernicia-sc2iw
@bernicia-sc2iw Жыл бұрын
It's a strong debut album , not the best .There have been so many great debuts in music history . I wouldn't know where to begin . Byrds , Velvet Underground , Burrito Bros , Television , Strokes , Pixies , Joy Division , Wire , the Fall , Pearl Jam , Joni Mitchell, Tame Impala, Pistols , Pil , Hendrix , Led Zep, Patti Smith , Sabbath , Massive attack , the Band , B52'S , CSN , Portishead , Tricky , the list goes on and on.
@datsunyellow2570
@datsunyellow2570 Жыл бұрын
​@@bernicia-sc2iwshutup 😂
@scout2468
@scout2468 3 жыл бұрын
Second Coming is such an underrated album. I never understood all the flak it got.
@tomtomthebear
@tomtomthebear 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a carbon copy of their debut album....that’s about it I think..fucking awesome album
@stefanlundin9649
@stefanlundin9649 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing album The rhythm and percussion is so tight You just can’t put a label on the Roses which the industry hates
@spencerglover1
@spencerglover1 3 жыл бұрын
The second coming was epic, it was ridiculous it got panned and most music Fans love it that’s what counts not what Critics say but unfortunately they can have an influence, both the Roses albums have iconic songs on.....
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 3 жыл бұрын
The musicianship on that album is insane.
@iainprendergast8311
@iainprendergast8311 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right…it can take down a zombie with a good arm.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 3 жыл бұрын
The Stone Roses are in my top 4 favourite bands ever. Their debut album is one of the all time classics. Second Coming was a very good album but everyone was expecting ‘ the Stone Roses ‘ part 2. That wasn’t going to happen. Love Spreads and Ten Storey Love Song are 2 of the best songs they ever made.
@catinthehat906
@catinthehat906 3 жыл бұрын
Second Coming is a very underrated album, it should have been massive, but the zeitgeist for Zeppelin inspired rock music wasn't there in 1994.
@matthewwalker5430
@matthewwalker5430 3 жыл бұрын
@@catinthehat906 Also, I can't help feel the fact it was on Geffen hurt them in the UK. As pathetic as it sounds, their debut album defined British music of the day and then, suddenly, they're on an American label? We Brits have an inferiority complex with America sometimes and we don't like to think they are trying to change us. Many people took it as Americans meddling in the British sound, rather than how we should've taken it as the British sound finally getting proper recognition by a big American label. I mean, yes, Second Coming does sit better on Geffen than the debut album would've but does anyone REALLY believe Ian, John, Mani or Reni would've "Americanised" their sound at the bequest of a label?
@catinthehat906
@catinthehat906 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewwalker5430 Do you know I never considered the nationality of the label before buying any album, it just didn't enter my head.
@matthewwalker5430
@matthewwalker5430 3 жыл бұрын
@@catinthehat906 I don’t mean the people buying it, I mean the music press who slated the album which would’ve effected sales
@aquamarine99911
@aquamarine99911 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's my favourite album of the two. Great songs and riffs throughout. But they were so pissy at the time, and that probably took away from their marketing effort for the album. I went to their show here in Toronto, and they didn't even play an encore. They hadn't played "Fools Gold" in the main set, so the audience was expecting more. Very downbeat feeling filing out of that concert
@aureol40012
@aureol40012 3 жыл бұрын
Saw the Roses at the Hacienda in Feb 1989. One of the best gigs of my life, and I’ve done thousands. Saw Oasis at the Hacienda 5 years later and the vibe for both gigs was electric.
@empireman1077
@empireman1077 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the Stone Roses was a sell out at the hacienda It was going through some bad times with drugs, the club was closed down a few times It also changed from a music venue to a futuristic disco having DJs nights and parties with Temperance I didn't know Oasis played there as during 93/95 Factory Records & hacienda was bankrupt Richard Branson of virgin wanted to buy it at some point, Creation label was getting more bands and so Oasis fans would of gone to University ? Bigger venue?.
@psychonautpupildiallater7734
@psychonautpupildiallater7734 3 жыл бұрын
Remember seeing/hearing Love Spreads on a late night Mtv show, while tripping on something?,..Hooked immediately.....on the drugs AND the music!
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
Living in Manchester was one of the best times of my life, I was living my music dream! Everyday on the bus I would pass by the offices of the old Factory Records and the Hacienda condos. And met Shaun Ryder and Mani and hung out with Badly Dawn Boy. Now I just live back in Canada and live a humdrum life.
@justmadeit2
@justmadeit2 3 жыл бұрын
I live here and made an unofficial Manchester tourist video, to see it simply just type in the following.... Manchesters unofficial tourist video
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
@@justmadeit2 thanks, I can’t wait to check it out!
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
@@justmadeit2 brings me back! All that was missing was seeing the Chorlton 86 bus 😂❤️
@justmadeit2
@justmadeit2 3 жыл бұрын
@@chelseagirl278 Ha, did you live in Chorlton? I used to go out with a woman from there
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
@@justmadeit2 yes, in Chorlton. On Barlow Moor Road. Don’t worry its not me! LOL 😂
@bangslamwham88
@bangslamwham88 3 жыл бұрын
The US edition of their debut album is the one to get. It features two additional songs, Elephant Stone and Fool's Gold.
@jogon7914
@jogon7914 3 жыл бұрын
Legendary songs yes, but they don't belong on the debut. The debut album was PERFECT at 11 songs...11 fantastic songs...starts with I Wanna Be Adored and ends with I Am The Resurrection...this is the only way the album should be played (as I have done almost every week or every month for the past 32 years). Elephant Stone is absolutely fantastic but belongs as the single it was (not tacked on to the perfect 11-song album) as is Fools Gold (the greatest single ever released in my opinion) which belongs not on the album either but left as it was- the moving forward next release AFTER the album, showing the band - only months later- moving into a new direction, on the very, very cusp of the 90s, in November 1989. Sadly what came next was gaps, filler, and an anti-climax. They had one last surge with another non-album single (One Love) before a 4 year inactivity.
@bangslamwham88
@bangslamwham88 3 жыл бұрын
@@jogon7914 The very first time I heard the album it was the US edition, having no idea that Elephant Stone and Fool's Gold were not part of the UK edition, and because of that the UK edition feels incomplete to me, so we'll have to disagree on that one.
@theNomadz
@theNomadz 3 жыл бұрын
@@bangslamwham88 I bought the US version also first, so feel the same, and I live in Manchester and bought it opening week... just felt wrong not paying a few quid extra for 2 extra A sides.
@mofettemopete3372
@mofettemopete3372 3 жыл бұрын
No. Elephant Stone and Fool's Gold both are superb tracks. But they destroy the flow of the debut. You have to hear them what they are: as singles!
@bangslamwham88
@bangslamwham88 3 жыл бұрын
@@mofettemopete3372 As I posted earlier, I heard the US edition first having no idea that they weren't part of the UK edition until much later, and because of it the UK edition feels incomplete. So no, Elephant Stone and Fool's Gold don't destroy the flow of the album as you put it, they feel a natural part of the album to me because that's how I first heard it.
@tommypickles218
@tommypickles218 3 жыл бұрын
"Seattle is probably the first city that come to mind when you think of urban centres associated with music" Laughs in London, Liverpool, Birmingham (and Manchester)
@lucasoheyze4597
@lucasoheyze4597 3 жыл бұрын
Even in America, I'd think of Nashville, Detroit, LA, San Francisco and New York before Seattle.
@bildkistl
@bildkistl 3 жыл бұрын
Well in the 90s it was Seattle there was even a song from a German band called: Wir sind nicht in Seattle Dirk
@PK-gi2qh
@PK-gi2qh 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Los Angeles....
@paulcronin3626
@paulcronin3626 3 жыл бұрын
He's American, can't help it.
@rrdream2400
@rrdream2400 3 жыл бұрын
not only that, England caught on to Nirvana long before the rest of the US did.
@punkhead6774
@punkhead6774 3 жыл бұрын
In their prime, one of the best, John Squire is brilliant
@robbrown4621
@robbrown4621 2 жыл бұрын
I recall one night in NYC when I was at a small club called MISSION when I Wanna Be Adored was played for the first time in NYC. Dave Kendal, the British VJ from 120 Minutes on M-TV, was the DJ in this little club. To my left at the bar was the guitarist from Siouxsie & The Banshees and to my right was the keyboard player in The Psychedelic Furs. There were only around thirty five people in this little room but half of them were musicians in cool bands. I think it was 1989... Good times.
@yaboyreege7158
@yaboyreege7158 2 жыл бұрын
What was everyone’s reaction to the song?
@robbrown4621
@robbrown4621 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaboyreege7158 MISSION had a tiny dance floor, maybe about 10 or 12 people could be on it at any given time. The musicians who would be at the bar would always be checking it out, especially if one of the songs on which they performed was being played. Some songs always garnered dancers; Cities In Dust (Siouxsie), Personal Jesus (Depeche Mode), and Down In It (Nine Inch Nails), for example. I Wanna Be Adored was exactly the same as all the successful dance songs played there. It was an instant dance hit!
@davidfox7983
@davidfox7983 3 жыл бұрын
They looked great They sounded great First album is up there
@robbiefazle7802
@robbiefazle7802 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what anybody says I adore these dudes and their music and amazing. One of my favorite Alternative Rock artists.
@jasonmiller4080
@jasonmiller4080 3 жыл бұрын
What a bummer. Such a great band. Did get to see them in the mid 90’s after the 2nd coming album. Always enjoy these Brit movement/Manchester band videos.
@bigneon_glitter
@bigneon_glitter 3 жыл бұрын
Had The Stone Roses not spent five years on _Second Coming,_ Britpop may not have developed in the interim to fill the vacuum. The Roses didn't necessarily "fall" - they were one in a part of a cultural moment & that moment died out, Grunge came in, the Roses were suddenly a step behind the times & there was no new ground for them to go creatively together. John retired happily after The Seahorses, Reni retired happily, Mani made a happy career with Primal Scream, Ian released some great albums, they made a mint on a reunion tour, & the 1st album lives on.
@redacted2275
@redacted2275 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... for a long time the Stone Roses were known for the band that failed at the "second album curse" but only among the press, since they were huge and suddenly they disappeared. This eventually died down. Their legacy, however, was never tarnished. I think Ian Brown and Paul Weller are practically canonized in the UK at this point lol for good reason.
@stevebb2915
@stevebb2915 3 жыл бұрын
i am making a record at rockfield now, and how they spent 14 months there and only produced the second coming i will never know
@user-yp3oj5se1i
@user-yp3oj5se1i 3 жыл бұрын
That moment didn't die out. Like the Beatles they did what they wanted to do and they then wanted to split. They didn't release loads of failing albums. The rise and "fall" title is clickbait. Grunge came in because idiot no talent journalists with no music knowledge wanted to call Nirvana's rock an roll something different like how they wanted to call Stone Roses and Oasis 'indie' music rather than rock and roll. The Stone roses were not suddenly a step behind anything.
@sorearm
@sorearm 3 жыл бұрын
John Squire - fantastic guitarist
@TheFunktipus1
@TheFunktipus1 3 жыл бұрын
As much as i like his style, especially his earlier playing, i think hes overrated.
@ranica47
@ranica47 3 жыл бұрын
For the second album his coke use affected the way he played: multiple overdubs, bombastic, Jimmy Page type soloing while the bass and drums, which were such a huge part of the first album, were much lower in the mix.
@TheFunktipus1
@TheFunktipus1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ranica47 yes. I thought his playing was kinda sloppy on Second Coming and some of the shows for the album. You can tell its the coke. I much prefer his old style of playing. You knew it was him playing but he just sounds like a Jimmy Page wannabe come the mid 90s. Some sparks of greatness but completely eclipsed by the aforementioned sloppy playing.
@Joe.s11
@Joe.s11 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFunktipus1 oh shut up you bell end
@TheFunktipus1
@TheFunktipus1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joe.s11 ooh! Check joe getting emotional over nothing. Wise up man.
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 3 жыл бұрын
YES MY FAVORITE BAND EVER! THANKS SO MUCH!
@thevale2456
@thevale2456 2 жыл бұрын
Their debut is my favourite album ever, never ceases to amaze me 🍋
@EvanFrenchMusic93
@EvanFrenchMusic93 3 жыл бұрын
She'll carry on through it all She's a waterfall That's my favorite song!
@niks7643
@niks7643 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the documentary "The Stone Roses: Made of Stone" if you haven't already. I believe it's free on Prime right now. Great doc about the rise and fall of the band and chronicles their 2012 reunion tour. Great band, unfortunately they didn't really take off they way they should have. That first album is truly amazing and will always hold a special place in my heart.
@r.edward5701
@r.edward5701 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! Never heard
@cris_261
@cris_261 3 жыл бұрын
Love that Madchester sound!
@smilingontime
@smilingontime 3 жыл бұрын
I have it on VHS
@mycraplife
@mycraplife 3 жыл бұрын
Second album is amazing as well.
@Gleadogg
@Gleadogg 3 жыл бұрын
I did watch that documentary but I had to have the subtitles on the whole time! It was awesome, though. That last in-concert scene of 'Fools Gold' is incredible!
@AKAtAGG
@AKAtAGG 3 жыл бұрын
Got a new sub cos of this video. As you can see from my avatar the stone roses are insanley important to me (that's their logo on my Fender Telecaster) and i have that same logo as a tattoo on my forearm. I heard Waterfall, decided i wanted to play that on guitar, and bought a guitar, and learned it - then learned the entire album, by myself with no teaching. I am a big fan. And this is a lovely video, some lovely work here.
@davidmreyes77
@davidmreyes77 3 жыл бұрын
They had incredible hype upon the release of their first album but they took too long to release a follow up. It’s a shame, because Oasis and Blur picked up where they left off and Stone Roses didn’t capitalize off the Brit-pop craze of the mid 90s.
@redacted2275
@redacted2275 3 жыл бұрын
It's ironic: Noel said that if it wasn't for that Stone Roses' huge gig at the park, Oasis probably wouldn't exist. Liam's persona is 80% Ian Brown. Ian Brown's solo career was huge in the 90s but in UK, Japan... it's not everyone's cup of tea, I like it. I think naturally it would have been Oasis and Blur to kickstart Britpop anyway...
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
@@redacted2275 brilliant, I never thought of that but you are spot on!
@cultureshows8805
@cultureshows8805 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why they didn't do a follow up album was because they signed a really really bad 3 album deal not realising how bad it was they got paid almost nothing so they spent most of there time trying to get out of there first deal
@user-yp3oj5se1i
@user-yp3oj5se1i 3 жыл бұрын
Blur picked up on nothing.
@thedude4672
@thedude4672 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yp3oj5se1i True. Blur would've been a smash hit regardless of whether The Stone Roses existed, while Oasis exists (according to the Gallagher brothers) because of The Stone Roses.
@Slowdived80
@Slowdived80 3 жыл бұрын
I Am The Ressurection, my fav tune of all time. Fav album of all time. The Roses and The Smiths🖤
@davidhadskey5979
@davidhadskey5979 3 жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned “Fool’s Gold”
@rickhardman7376
@rickhardman7376 3 жыл бұрын
there's better songs
@lucasoheyze4597
@lucasoheyze4597 3 жыл бұрын
They had better song, but that's the one that changed everything.
@andrewtrushinski3848
@andrewtrushinski3848 3 жыл бұрын
Thats my favorite. Reni is awesome!
@randle-s9y
@randle-s9y 6 ай бұрын
Something's burning 🔥
@MrG77
@MrG77 Жыл бұрын
There music still gives me goosebumps. I love the Stone Roses and John Squire is a guitar God. Second Coming is brilliant aswell. Tears is my favourite.🙏
@zanezeiter
@zanezeiter 3 жыл бұрын
"she bangs the drums" is a beautiful song
@younghan3573
@younghan3573 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the backwards sampling of the drums and bass lines
@briancoburn6903
@briancoburn6903 2 жыл бұрын
Saw them twice during the reunion, which i thought wouldn't happen. At Wembley, they were playing better than ever. Wished i'd seen them in 89 at their peak. That was the time really.
@ayodiki
@ayodiki 2 жыл бұрын
Still listening to their songs...
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 3 жыл бұрын
Spike Island was the biggest gig but the best gig was the Glasgow Green one in June 1990. Blackpool as well.
@dcblunt666
@dcblunt666 2 жыл бұрын
“I am the resurrection” is one of the best songs ever written
@hockeyteeth
@hockeyteeth 3 жыл бұрын
They are a great band. Very talented. Fantastic songs.
@theNomadz
@theNomadz 3 жыл бұрын
Made a quiet Friday night in feel more alive... thanks really well produced RnRTS just earn't a new follower.
@neilpye6089
@neilpye6089 3 жыл бұрын
They recorded an album in 1985 called garage flower that got scrapped and the self titled lp is classified as the first album, garage flower was unofficially released in 1996 but the second coming is a great record that doesn't deserve the flak
@lawlini1979
@lawlini1979 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew they'd completely jacked it in. Gutted. Hoped there'd be another album at some point. Loved 2nd coming, personally.
@chrissilvester5663
@chrissilvester5663 3 жыл бұрын
The Stone Roses changed everything. They put everything into colour. They changed music transformed it into a new era. Their debut album is imo the best debut album of all time, it's certainly my all time fave. A truly unbelievable band that had that mysteriousness about them that's indescribable
@paidgovernmentshill_6950
@paidgovernmentshill_6950 3 жыл бұрын
Not a patch on the House Of Love. ;-) Spacemen 3 are the band from that era who I always thought should have been more successful. Mad combination of drone rock, electronica, swamp blues, psychedelia etc. The Roses were pedestrian as f by comparison, but had the better look...
@richardmoores
@richardmoores 3 жыл бұрын
They put everything into colour? F off
@chrissilvester5663
@chrissilvester5663 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardmoores Fact u don't think so that's fine that's your opinion which your entitled to just like I'm entitled to say that your talking absolute shite. The Stone Roses changed the face of music back in that era which in turn started a whole new dimension Inn the music scene. Quite frankly the Stone Roses played a very important role in creating summit completely different
@chrissilvester5663
@chrissilvester5663 3 жыл бұрын
@@paidgovernmentshill_6950 Again if that's what u think that's fine u fuckin run with that man. For me personally The Stone Roses had it all . They were that fuckin special that magical they were indescribable
@blackpeter70
@blackpeter70 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for not doing a video about a 80's/90's era hard rock band. They tend to make me post unspeakably bad one-liners. Much appreciated for this - well done vid!
@edmundblackaddercoc8522
@edmundblackaddercoc8522 3 жыл бұрын
Loved being in manc during Madchester, was lucky to see em at spike and Blackpool.
@tylersims6937
@tylersims6937 3 жыл бұрын
" ...I wanna, I wanner, I wanner be adored. I wanna, I gotta be adorrrrred."
@MemeGang420
@MemeGang420 3 жыл бұрын
There song “Breaking Into Heaven” got me into them, that guitar solo man- holy freaking sh-t.
@EBC154
@EBC154 3 жыл бұрын
i wouldn’t say there was a fall fall, they’re still legends in the uk.
@willramsden4637
@willramsden4637 3 жыл бұрын
Yanks know fuck all mate
@schmidington
@schmidington 3 жыл бұрын
What an entertaining story. As it's told here, it almost plays out like a mini-movie. Awesome video.
@jacobgates1986
@jacobgates1986 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I heard , "I wanna be adored". I was in a store In the mall in 94' in San Francisco nd it took me 10yrs to accidentally watching top of the chart re-run nd had that album on replay for at least 10yrs , along with "yo la Tengo" , nd my new fave band is "real estate". Best indie band to go on long drives into the country side.
@tonykichenside8443
@tonykichenside8443 3 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favourite bands
@the17thdoctor1
@the17thdoctor1 3 жыл бұрын
One of my stepdad’s mate met the Stone Roses and helped them make their 2nd album ‘Second coming’ at Rockfield Studios. He said they were the band that spent the longest time at the studios, in the nearly 2 years they spent there, they would write a song every few weeks-ish. They left in ‘95 and oasis immediately went into the studio to record their 2nd album, What’s the story (morning glory)?
@MKYeahBuddy
@MKYeahBuddy 2 жыл бұрын
I love this band and always wished they had made more music.
@mainoffenders4662
@mainoffenders4662 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Thanks.
@DIP4K
@DIP4K 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ivy and Tina for introducing me to this band back in 2012 .. some 23 years after they had made it on TOTP’s .. clearly I know my contemporary music 😄
@AndrewJohnClive
@AndrewJohnClive 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, Darling… Anything to get you in the sak!😘🙂
@_Pauper_
@_Pauper_ 4 ай бұрын
Thank You! Love this band thanks to Live Forever the BritRock Doc. I got so much music from that documentary
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I imagine it took a ton of work. In my opinion, it was totally worth it.
@errolson4506
@errolson4506 3 жыл бұрын
their B sides is Such a masterpiece and Gold
@michellerosebrown
@michellerosebrown 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up listening to heavy metal music along with African and reggae music. When I was sixteen I started listening to bands such as Oasis, The Smiths and The Stone Roses and was influenced by my hometown Minneapolis punk bands like Hüsker Dü, The Suburbs and The Replacements.
@garythompson5316
@garythompson5316 3 жыл бұрын
Good taste Michelle!
@superiorbeing95
@superiorbeing95 3 жыл бұрын
They are still legends.
@BIGNOIDS
@BIGNOIDS Жыл бұрын
I still play that debut album at least once a week to this day, it's an all time classic. I was also lucky enough to be a teenager growing up in Manchester when that album dropped, it was a magical time.
@KINGMONKEY1989
@KINGMONKEY1989 4 ай бұрын
That band literally changed my life and the fact i got to see them before they split at the Glasgow green gig and then again for there final ever gig after they reformed at Hampden Park with Primal Scream supporting will live with me forever. They might not have been big in the states but that didn't matter at all. They will always be the best band ever to me.
@vashna3799
@vashna3799 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of great bands that never make it big are either too ahead of their time or peak too early. The Stone Roses were both.
@stanleyguarnelo1101
@stanleyguarnelo1101 3 жыл бұрын
Second Coming is a very underrated album.
@DannyBoi2112
@DannyBoi2112 3 жыл бұрын
It's good but nothing compared to the debut.
@r.edward5701
@r.edward5701 3 жыл бұрын
Love Spreads is a huge, HUGE tune for me
@EclecticoIconoclasta
@EclecticoIconoclasta 3 жыл бұрын
If they would have cut down Squire´s solos and focused more on the tunes it might have come out better.
@IronManx70
@IronManx70 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Sure Squire's guitar work blatantly channels Zeppelin, but I feel his riffs have a lot of character to them like Page and unlike a lot of the Zep imitators like Kingdom Come per say. Reni's drum work is incredible and Mani really shines with excellent bass playing on every track. Brown is a weak link unfortunately because his voice is too thin to match the intensity of most of the songs
@colincampbell4261
@colincampbell4261 3 жыл бұрын
@@IronManx70 brown can't sing in tune.
@matthewmead2374
@matthewmead2374 3 жыл бұрын
I cant believe that the Stone roses aren't bigger here in the states than they are. Their music is pretty universal in its appeal. Whether you like pop, punk, electronica or just well written rock music. Some of their stuff even reminds me of jam band music. The song I think called adore or adore me, should be the theme song for disaffected youths everywhere. Its dark and melodic and beautiful. Their songs have catchy hooks but also extended instrumental parts, danceable beats and cool lyrics. They could really appeal to lots of different music fans.
@alternatesportshistory3605
@alternatesportshistory3605 3 жыл бұрын
The Stone Roses were the first UK band to follow the "Britpop hype path": Come out of nowhere, have a couple of good singles, start getting talked about by the "cool" music magazines, release a great debut album, get called The Next Beatles. Suede and Oasis were able to survive that path, at least for a while; The Stone Roses, being the first band to go through it, had no idea how to handle the attention. That first album of theirs is still awesome though, it still holds up today.
@matthewjdouglas6471
@matthewjdouglas6471 3 жыл бұрын
There b sides album turns into stone is amazing. It's as good as the stones roses debut. Could be classed as there second really
@artcamp7
@artcamp7 2 жыл бұрын
"We thought you had to go to college to be in a band". Noel Gallagher. That is a hilarious conception.
@kevinkibble8342
@kevinkibble8342 3 жыл бұрын
I was too young for them in their (very brief) prime, but they remain one of my favourite bands of all time, and I saw them twice after they reformed. Their show at Heaton Park in Manchester 2012 remains my all time favourite live performance that I've seen by a band. It wasn't just a gig, it felt like an event. You should do a video on The Libertines, another big name over here who never broke America. Their story is fascinating, and very similar to the Roses. Released a long awaited seminal debut album, very briefly appeared to have the world at their feet but by the time their second album was released, the band had all but disintegrated due to drugs and infighting, but in their wake lay a huge legacy.
@menamestom
@menamestom 3 жыл бұрын
The Stone Roses did 2 great albums to be fair, it’s just that only one of them was released as an album. But if you take their singles and b sides (many if which could be singles in their own right) from before and shortly after their debut album, you could have another great album. Good video though, but should have mentioned Fools Gold, which was a massive change in direction.
@REVIEWSbyRVG
@REVIEWSbyRVG 3 жыл бұрын
Hell of a debut.
@CottonBud
@CottonBud 3 жыл бұрын
Fair play to you for bringing this in at 15 minutes - perfectly apt
@vr6swp
@vr6swp 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked their first album. It drove a couple guys in my band nuts so I played it a lot.
@SarahAlyssa
@SarahAlyssa 3 жыл бұрын
The stones roses are one of the greatest rock bands of all time ❤️
@jogon7914
@jogon7914 3 жыл бұрын
Great video (seeing it from an American perspective for a change) but Reni joined in 1984, not 85, and he was at that legendary first London gig the Roses played and Pete Townshend was so blown away by Reni that he wanted him to be his drummer, but Reni (although he could have got instant commercial exposure being the drummer for legendary Who founder Townshend) wouldn't ditch Ian, John, etc) . Also you failed to mention Andy Couzens was also in the band early on and actually founded the band with John and Ian). Andy was edged out of the band by early manager Gareth and went on to form the often forgotten but brilliant band The High, The story of The Roses has more background than you mention here; Ian and John and Andy started the band, John persuaded a reluctant Pete Garner - who was friend to all 3 of them - to join and Simon Wolstencroft -who was also their friend almost joined (as he had almost joined The Smiths with his other friend Johnny Marr). The original band before they settled on The Stone Roses was The Waterfront but Wolstencroft didn't stick around and Reni joined early on, Eventually Pete left (and old friend Mani stepped in) and Andy was edged out...leaving the now legendary line-up of Ian, John, Mani & Reni.
@OblivionDust2719
@OblivionDust2719 3 жыл бұрын
Bye bye bad man is one of my all time fav songs.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice. Brilliant song.
@jonnuanez2843
@jonnuanez2843 3 жыл бұрын
A near-perfect first album. Just wow! on that one.
@tdurb0
@tdurb0 8 ай бұрын
One album that means they’ll never EVER fall. One of the best albums ever made
@davidmorrissey5075
@davidmorrissey5075 6 ай бұрын
The stone roses will always be immortal... they'll never "fall"
@RolandDeschain1
@RolandDeschain1 3 жыл бұрын
24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE is a brilliant movie made about the 'Madchester' scene, and Tony Wilson specifically.
@rickhardman7376
@rickhardman7376 3 жыл бұрын
They don't feature in it
@RolandDeschain1
@RolandDeschain1 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickhardman7376 Nah, it was more about The Happy Mondays. I guess they had to choose one band to really cover so they chose the craziest one.
@rickhardman7376
@rickhardman7376 3 жыл бұрын
@@RolandDeschain1 and Because The Roses weren't one of Tony Wilsons Bands
@SamIIs
@SamIIs 2 жыл бұрын
I remember listing to this band in the Army at Ft. Campbell Kentucky just about a year or so before going to Operation Line in the Sand in Saudi Arabia.
@lukehill449
@lukehill449 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best albums of all time.
@jimbolaya65
@jimbolaya65 3 жыл бұрын
The difference in sound-style-“feel “….. between 1st album and Second Coming is remarkable. Like- I ( and my group of friends/people) would pretty much never listen to the first album , but Second Coming is an all time favorite - love the arrangements/musicianship in there! 😯🤔🙂 Super interesting story about these folks …..
@cosmoasecas
@cosmoasecas 3 жыл бұрын
Los stone Roses y la cerveza negra fueron el principio de todo!
@BB-se9bl
@BB-se9bl 3 жыл бұрын
Still made the best debut album of all time though.
@ca9968
@ca9968 3 жыл бұрын
"Could have had a massive career"...still one of the most talked about and loved bands in the U.K...i`m sure their bank accounts aren`t hurting at all even though they didn`t stay together all that long...
@poolboyinla
@poolboyinla 3 жыл бұрын
They are no Stone Temple Pilots.
@stuartleerichardjohnson8189
@stuartleerichardjohnson8189 3 жыл бұрын
@@poolboyinla Thank God for that.
@Jezballz
@Jezballz 3 жыл бұрын
@@poolboyinla Why would Stone Roses make crap music?
@chrisodriscoll3077
@chrisodriscoll3077 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much an iconic band everywhere but the US really.
@ca9968
@ca9968 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisodriscoll3077 even in South Africa during the late 80`s/early 90`s when were effectively "cut off" from what was going on in the world the British ExPat community all had their debut record in their collections...
@gab9099
@gab9099 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I’m concerned, the Stone Roses are still rising
@saltypatriot4181
@saltypatriot4181 3 жыл бұрын
God I love that rythym section♥️♥️♥️
@brazenlilhussy5975
@brazenlilhussy5975 3 жыл бұрын
'Amateurs' !!--- 🤣 fookin love Ian Brown.
@TheMusicalElitist
@TheMusicalElitist 3 жыл бұрын
Calm down with your LG impressions
@staffh3815
@staffh3815 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMusicalElitist LG has been doing an Ian brown impression for over 30 years tho
@brazenlilhussy5975
@brazenlilhussy5975 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMusicalElitist LG impressions?
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