The Story and Games of Team17 - Kim Justice

[@Kim_Justice]

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[@Team17Ltd]

Awesome video! We loved the trip down memory lane!

[@amigaoldskool]

Thank you Team17 for every Amiga game and therefore after btw do you have any black Team17 black mugs mine didn't get home in 1993?

[@Team17Ltd]

We just checked the dishwasher.... Nope, sorry!

[@KingofCrusher]

Holy shit, is that the real Team17? That's fucking awesome they watched this video.

[@secondgoodoldgreg2807]

T17, why was project x so bloody hard?

[@SlavomirG]

At the very least 50% of my Amiga childhood experience was made possible by Team17. Thank you and please make Superfrog 2 !!1 One of the best 16-bit platformers of all time.

[@Zadster]

This is kinda weird for me. I worked at Team17 at the end of the Amiga / early PC days. After being a gamer since the ZX81, and having experienced (as a consumer) studios like US Gold, Ocean, Gremlin, Psygnosis etc, and your excellent videos about them, I find myself on the other side for once. I can honestly say it was an inspiration working alongside the amazing creative people there. The pay was crap and resources were - shall we say - stretched, but hey ho, times were hard. It did look at one time like Ocean was going to absorb them (the Ferrari 456 in the T17 car park belonging to one of the Ocean head honchos was probably worth more than our entire building) which is why it is especially satisfying to see Team17 still around. As an example of the sort of creative people who worked there. I remember coming back after the short Christmas break, to be told one of the main 3D artists had left. He'd had a job offer from Digital Domain in Hollywood. The artist, John Allardice, went on to crash the USS Voyager, and got an Emmy co-nomination for it. Excellent work Kim!

[@dougfranckwolf]

I worked with John Allardice a bit on Stealth at Digital Domain, but the guy from Team 17 who I worked with closely for years was Cris Blyth, a prince of a guy. Super talented, funny, and a good friend. Did you know him?

[@Zadster]

Yep, he worked in the office next door, absolutely top bloke, with Rory McLeish and... er... dammit forgotten the name of the other guy (sorry fella!) had an amazing and slightly scary Amiga setup for Lightwave etc.

[@dougfranckwolf]

Yeah, I worked with Rory a bit as well. Cris and I were on the Lightwave team at DD for years. And didn't Matt Fairclough work there as well? Cris was very proud of his hometown, Hoek. A day out of Hoek is a day wasted, he would tell me on a daily basis. :)

[@obsoletepowercorrupts]

Well, Mr Team17, Perhaps you can explain how you aquired a time-machine that anabled you to get Benedict Cumberbatch to pose for the picture at 33:43 ? EDIT, I mean the one of the right with the gun, obviously.

[@Zadster]

Hmm I remember a couple of Matts, not sure what either of their surnames were though. Cris was certainly passionate about Ho'ik, but then with T17 being in Yorkshire that's a perfectly normal thing anyway.

[@paulbridger2418]

If any of you fans of Team 17 games loved the music there's also a documentary based on Allister Brimble just search for it on here made by Anarchy Studios. It goes back from when he released music from 17bit days and into his first game on the Amiga as well as covering the album The Amiga Works which was successfully funded on Kickstarter. This is a great video Kim, as always well done!

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

I was a massive Amiga fan back in the day. Team 17 was one of the few Amiga all time greats! Later I purchased their Alien Breed releases on both the 360 and Super Frog on PS3...great stuff thanks!

[@GustoTheGamer]

one of the most underrated youtubers.......this is some real good self made documentary

[@nosferadu]

Hats off to Team 17 for keeping it going for as long as they have. I enjoyed their games as a kid (particularly Worms and Body Blows) and am still enjoying their games today.

[@daveschnee9249]

best subscription i've ever made

[@FinalBaton]

Really an unbelievable channel. The quality of research, the storytelling flair, the insanely good script work, the knowledge of the industry, the deep understanding of game design, the great humour/attitude/personality... this channel just keeps blowing my mind, seriously.

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

Paul Kilburn (producer) said Alien Breed Conflict (Dreamcast) had been finished in terms of the design stages and Team 17 had brought Andreas Tadic and Rico Holmes back to build a development team around them to ensure the game was everything both Team 17 and the fans expected. Hasbro canned it, as they felt it was too outdated for the platform.

[@KiR_3d]

25:00 - we've played in ATR 1&2 with friends much more often than in Micro Machines! It's one of the most cool and playful games of the past for me. Cute but not cheesy cars, very neat environment and 2 players mode that was made very well!

[@RetroUnlim]

A brilliant piece of work, very in depth and a great blast into the past. Bravo Kim! Great job!

[@Ithaca-vv5dy]

I’m so happy to have stumbled upon your channel, Kim! Being from Texas, this is an entire chapter in the history of gaming I didn’t know existed.

[@rodneyabrett]

Your encyclopedic knowledge of video game history is very impressive. I've been around since the early Magnavox Odyssey days so I can recall most of this. You've put together some of the most detailed archival videos I've seen on KZbin. Cheers

[@ЗурабЦеретели-ы8ф]

My respects to Team17!

[@DirtyBoySingToGod]

Yet another class piece of work Kim. You do your research and you unearth all kinds of awesome things. Just brilliant once again !

[@SupraBlack-dp4zz]

Always enjoy your in depth look back type of videos. Lots of time and effort put in. Always happy to see the long videos of these types. Much appreciated!

[@worMatty2]

Great video. I bought Worms on day one for the Amiga, having seen previews of it on TV. For years it was my favourite game series. I spent time in the Worms community and even based my first internet handle on it which I still use today. I thought Team 17 would only ever continue to produce Worms games, so I was pleased when they started to publish new independent work.

[@ShadowlostArts]

Well done to Team 17 for keeping the independent name, to many good game studios have been bought out bye big companies and not to long after was closed down. Also good on them for supporting indie developers, great video Kim and I look forwarding to seeing more in the near future.

[@Codoloco1]

Your documentaries are so detailed and crafted to perfection

[@AmigaFreak77]

The same female on kingpin is the same as in alien breed as its Allister Brimbles mum who does the voice samples and his brother Chris Brimble too. They worked on these games too on sfx. Amiga Works documentary is also dedicated to Lynette Reade tragically involved in a car accident back in 2015, the voice of intex systems in alien breed we salute you, R.I.P ❤️

[@raithrover1976]

I highly recommend that everyone pauses the video around the 11:30 mark and reads what's shown of the article about game reviews. Brilliant stuff!

[@AgentHeX_0007]

25:58 "Top down pool games can be kind of hit and miss" Nice one Kim 🙂

[@Arkhan_The_Black]

Brilliant. Woke up and seen this in my subs feed. Been anticipating this one for some alien breed coverage and gaming history goodness. And nobody does gaming history better than our Kimball here.

[@SelfIndulgentGamer]

There will always be a soft spot in my heart for all these games companies, such as team 17 , ocean , bitmaps etc. These are really great, well put together videos, top notch as always :)

[@taroxan]

The history of Team 17 has certainly restored some faith in the gaming industry, at least for me. Thanks!

[@remykamermans5544]

Team 17 was / is one of my favorite amiga developer / publisher. Superfrog was one my favoite amiga platformers , they had a lot of memorable games for me on the system.

[@Failskateboarding]

I love your channel. I'm a nerdy T-girl.I live in the state so I'm not real familiar with a lot of the games you review. I just had my bottom surgery about a year ago, I watched your videos through like my whole recovery. Now seeing you do your thing has inspired me and my boyfriend to watch our own channel. I see you're an inspiration to me and I just wanted to let you know thank you so much for your content and I hope you have a very merry Christmas.

[@Wintericecrystal]

Cool story, Sis.

[@manualmartin]

Nice video, but have to note that I'm a bit disappointed that nowhere it's mentioned that the majority of game creation of early Team17 took place in Sweden (let for mentioning Andreas Tadic's name in the beginning). Besides Tadic, persons like Peter Tuleby, Stefan Boberg and Jimmy Fredriksson worked on Miami Chase, Full Contact and Alien Breed, making them more Swedish games than British.

[@AmigaFreak77]

This games still have a slight % of British in them as Allister worked on them too 😋 but yes I agree with you most of the work is Swedish based

[@JimmiG84]

Team17 were huge on the Amiga back in the day, glad they're still around. It was definitely Worms that saved them, and the decision to put it on so many platforms. I remember reading an interview/article in an Amiga mag just as they were leaving the Amiga scene. They seemed pretty resentful about the whole thing, which was of course understandable given the implosion of the platform. They put a lot of resources into AB3D II, but it only sold a tiny number of copies. The Amiga Power dispute probably didn't improve the mood. Then there was the rampart piracy on the Amiga, which became an ever bigger problem as the games market kept shrinking.

[@wimwiddershins]

Brilliant as always. You tell a compelling and enjoyable story.

[@realmchat6665]

An outstanding presentation as always. It is great to see an indie company that emerged from the demo scene still going.

[@JimQuantrell]

Kim, I always love you work, buddy. It is clear that so much effort and love goes in to each production. Keep it up, you're doing a great job!

[@AmigaFreak77]

If anyone loved the music of Allister Brimble who did games like full contact, alien breed, project x, body blows, overdrive, and many more in his catalogue of games you need to head over to amigaworks.com for the info on his album named the same as website. This covers his last album based on Amiga games. Also if you head over to facebook.com/amigaworks/ you can find out more info on the documentary based on the man himself.

[@kylescott413]

I don't know how you do it, Kim. You're channel is the best I've yet come across on KZbin. I'm a horror author, (I won't disclose my name here, as this is not a spamming post), and I set much of my work in the 80's, as it's the decade in which I spent most of my childhood, (from five to fifteen). You're videos have been a real inspiration while I'm working on my new book, and will continue to be so when I start on my next project, also set in the same period. Just want to thank you for your tireless work, reclaiming so many shared memories from the clutches of time, for all of us. Keep up the stellar work, my friend.

[@alexstokoe2542]

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[@kylescott413]

And that's why we have editors, Alex. It's also why we don't write novels on phones :D

[@Nautilus1972]

@@alexstokoe2542 Classic.

[@Nautilus1972]

@@kylescott413 Not knowing basic grammar leads us to think you do NOT have an editor.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I continue to love these videos, Kim! I learn about whole sections of game history I know nothing about.

[@jamescameron149]

My CS teacher taught Alister Brimble. I was well into the Amiga scene at the time and she recognised the name. Sadly, mine was the last year that was taught CS. The RM Nimbus PC's were old and creaking and I suppose it wasn't practical to refresh.

[@SendyTheEndless]

I know it's not "good game design" but I loved how in the early Alien Breed games you could just get stuck and run out of keys or ammo, you didn't know where to go, etc. It created a feeling of danger that I feel is lacking in the smooth, rounded edges of todays games. I also LOVE the top-down pixel art in those games, especially AB2.

[@Nautilus1972]

Great job, Kim. You're documenting history!

[@bemani247]

Really interesting little documentary of one of my favourite game teams. Subscribed and look forward to seeing more!

[@spadget17]

Thanks for that, I enjoyed that - fair and balanced if a little heavy on the AP thing :-) Also I tried to get Jimmy Nail to voice Superfrog after a bit of a night out with Rico and Andreas in Sweden. Unfortunately he didn't want to do it but we were offered Tim Healey, but it was Jimmy Nail or nothing. I've largely fantastic memories from Team17 especially in the early years at an exciting time for lots of reasons. Seems like 10 minutes ago. Again, thanks for your work on this.

[@CrisBlyth]

Talk about a milestone in life !! :) hehe a massive concrete donkey of a milestone !... GOOD times !!

[@AmigaFreak77]

I think it has to be said Martyn that you led an awesome team and I really appreciate your efforts before you left, you made my childhood just extra special regards Amiga gaming.

[@slipknotboy555]

I used to play Worms: Armageddon with my dad as a kid on our PS1, and I loved it. I was like 3 when it came out, so it was probably a couple years later. I really liked the little clips they included, too. I also got World Party later, which was fun. Definitely a great series. Later on, I got both 3D Xbox games, as well. I may have to try the original someday

[@secondgoodoldgreg2807]

Great video Kim, I was completely unaware of the Amiga Power spat. I do remember AP giving markedly lower scores, but it was easily the best mag for the system.

[@jamstonjulian6947]

Worms Armageddon is one of the best designed games ever made, in any genre. Timeless.

[@Everstar08]

Yes! Another exceptional and in depth documentary! Thanks, Kim ;)

[@fedebestia]

Ashens brought me here and boy am I grateful! I love this channel! Keep up the great work, Kim!

[@chuck2501]

I remember that Nightlong had a bug that stopped you completing it :) Oh and so did Alien Breed. (a door would close before it was supposed to.) In Nightlong you needed a thingy to open a door that had the thingy in it!

[@realtrisk]

Another amazing, detailed, fascinating video. Awesome job as usual!

[@lukie-world]

Great vid! As someone who grew up with an Amiga in the UK I really appreciate these.

[@GadgetUK164]

Another great nostalgia filled video! Thanks!

[@RobM42]

Would be nice to see a HD remake or remaster of Project X loved that game on the amiga. The dance/trance tune on the main menu screen was too good lol i used to just load the game up just to listen to it.

[@AmigaFreak77]

You need to go to facebook.com/amigaworks/ and get the documentary based on Allister and his music 😉👍🏻

[@CaptainNow2]

That was a superb documentary :) Thankyou for your hard work and upload

[@Lucasrainford]

Been fans of these guys since the PD days.Their games showed the ST owners just what the Amiga could do! ;)

[@mikeb2575]

I love your videos, great topic and excellent production skills. Keep up the amazing work !! :D

[@onaretrotip]

Loved that, Kim! Top notch research.

[@1stdrive]

To get past the dogs in Assassin you have to waggle the stick left and right to shake them off. It's funny how many people I've told this to over the years that just didn't know!

[@AmigaFreak77]

Clearly didn't play it properly 😂

[@krissymarklewis1793]

Fuck yeah,I've been hoping you would do one on these guys for ages!

[@RMCRetro]

17Bits CDPD on the CDTV, or A570 on the A500 was the only CD I ever needed on the Amiga, especially with Parachute Joust on which I see you're also a fan of. Great Docu as always Kim.

[@LordmonkeyTRM]

When ever you drop a video, I drop everything and tune in. Great vid, great subject. The usual care and attention to detail.

[@bigjoeangel]

What a blast from the '90s!

[@Blackhawk19892]

Great video. I remember my dad telling me my mum once played and completed Alien Breed in a non stop week back when they were at uni. It felt kind of liķe hearing your kindly old grandad once gutted a nazi or something.

[@majmunx9703]

Finally TEAM17 :D Excellent job as always!! Keep'em coming ;)

[@michaelgroen4554]

You just made my day a little brighter :)

[@svrafa]

Great video, Kim! Didn't much about Team17 outside of the Worms franchise

[@Charles-yz4lw]

Fantastic video as always. Thank you!!!

[@scanlines420]

Fantastic vid as always Kimbo!

[@sluggotg]

Thanks! You Limeys! this is an awesome comipilatiantion!! I miss the Amiga Trends!

[@electronash]

Amazing vid. Great work. ;) I remember the excitement over the release of "Worms" back then, and played it a lot on both the Amiga 600 and PC. Obviously Superfrog and so many other classics here.

[@nerothos]

Wow Kim, that was an amazing video! Great job once again :)

[@itsaPIXELthing]

Amazing watch! Thanks, Kim!

[@Grouchy_Soup]

Nice! Another great video to feast on! Thanks, Kim!

[@OctaBech]

A really good video, thank you Kim.

[@deku812]

It's interesting, years afer this video, Team17 is one of the biggest or at least one of the publishers with the most games on huge selling platforms like the Switch. Truly one of the stand out survivors of the British game development

[@Carlitonsp1]

Interesting names you gave the worms. I'd imagine Guru Larry would always say "Hello you" before bombing the enemy.

[@Foebane72]

Don't forget, it was the Amiga that gave life to Team 17 in the first place!

[@Julianker]

OMG wow this is so cool, i remember 17 Bit PD very well (the humble beginnings) over the arcade in Wakefield and later on Team 17's big office building in Ossett just outside Wakefield. So many great memorable games made over the years.

[@BrettCharlesBass]

Haha nice I remember playing Overdrive and Arcade Pool on my Amiga 500 😂 miss those days and wish I still had it!

[@mk_games_official]

I'm working on Project X remake ATM. Also got PX music remake from Allister :) so stay tuned folks...its coming!!

[@chrispybee]

Bloody love your videos and the history around such a great developer. Be interesting if there's any 'over the pond' game developers that made it big over here in the UK.

[@amigaoldskool]

absolutely brilliant video Kim well done

[@Gr0t0tter]

Fantastic video - well done!

[@NekoFever]

That indie games shop is the Video Game Centre in Bournemouth. Huge blast from the past seeing that here!

[@bachaplegic]

Great docu on Team17, well done

[@thespiralmatrix]

Great content as always Kim!

[@EMarkMoore]

Bloody hell, Kim: I am proper looking forward to this, nice one!

[@sunnyforest3239]

hey kim, you sound GREAT!! this is so in-depth.. amazing.

[@acertainshape]

Backhanded compliment much? I would love to pick you apart anonymously online.

[@sunnyforest3239]

i didnt mean it like that...

[@acertainshape]

It is basically pointing out a negative by framing it as a positive, saying "wow, you've improved." Implying that Kim sounded terrible before. It's like saying to a fat person "wow, you look less fat today." You are just drawing attention to a flaw.

[@acertainshape]

Why do you need to comment at all on a person's speech impediment? Did you know that is rude? Who raised you? Do you point and stare at people in wheelchairs too?

[@sunnyforest3239]

acertainshape dude what is your problem? you are losing your shit for everyone to see.

[@RetroChiZ]

Loved Team 17's Amiga games. Arcade pool was one of my fav games.

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

Fantastic work Kim...

[@CrisBlyth]

Darned good.. pretty accurate too.. :) really enjoyed it. You even had the worms cinematics.. nice !

[@Corporal_Hicks]

Greetings from Denmark. Thanks for the video and i must say really good wook.

[@Blue-zw8er]

I really did not know they made other games besides Worms. Thumbs up!

[@henryparsnip]

Your uploads are informative excellence.

[@PAKA62]

Great video as always. "They didnt try a big float on the stock market" LOL

[@EightNineOne]

Awesome documentary Kim! As always.

[@Sabre_Wulf1]

I have been a fan since team 7. I was working in a computer shop in Shrewsbury Shropshire at this time, fulfilling my gaming dream. We got all the PD software (lsd docs etc) full contact dropped and the transparency fighter and music opening screen blew me away. They had the best graphics on the system since psygnosis. Project X was my favourite...then Apidya dropped. I'm a huge shmup arcade boy so when I say 'Apidya is my favourite shooter' ever is the biggest accolade I can give. Worms was scorched earth, I preferred scorched earth. And I followed stardust and alien breed all the way through ps3 to today. I'm hoping team17 bring some of these titles back. Superfrog mobile wasn't so good as it pampered to mobile level mechanics. A new top down alien breed would be awesome on switch.

[@kutulukutu]

Great video, as always!

[@19822andy]

My misogyny will show now. I met a girl and I was with pals playing worms. I said that whoever won got to kiss the girl. I won! She is now my wife as of July 2017!

[@michaeltsung9741]

well played, and congrats....

[@alexjulius6802]

Mother of god! That's like... literally forced anal rape!

[@wormsT17]

A wonderful unexpected Christmas gift for any T17 fan ;)

[@EgoShredder]

I used to love the store MicroByte and they supported all the main systems back in the 1980s really well. There was always a great atmosphere in their stores too, it was kind of like a more personable version of Virgin Mega Store and with the lighting dimmed for good effect, which also made the games running on the monitors look better. I also got some great stuff from the chain store The Computer Store but that had no atmosphere or customer engagement at all. Another good place for games back then was Bostock's, which was more known for second hand vinyl records but it had an excellent selection of the latest games at cheaper prices.

[@unleashedpotential7290]

project x was the bomb

[@battroman8965]

Thanks Kim awesomely entertaining