The Story of the Infamous Team Siren

[@ghbutler]

It's almost like skill matters in a video game and not gender.

[@MsVendetter]

Gender does matter, as long as you choose the right one :D:D

[@kantola02]

Joke?

[@BFSarthur]

@Damian Furrer and when we bring that point up, the response is immediately "PATRIARCHY"

[@ocoolwow]

@@kantola02 obviously...

[@victorhenriquecp]

lol

[@robertlebron3807]

*"I'm not afraid of cups"*

[@don-lf4lt]

Robert LeBron yeah I'm here from that too

[@michaelj.f.4602]

*SHE'S OVER HEEEERE*

[@Idan-tc5rt]

That is NOT how you ping !

[@Stardust_0608]

RIP I missed something

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

"I anyone beats us, we just fucking shoot them"

[@superninja7703]

They went shooting to prove they’re good at league of legends. Imagine if I tried to get a job in finance and went fishing to prove I’m good at finance

[@UndertakerU2ber]

I guess they went to a gun range just to show how "strong" and "independent" they were and prove that they're "real" hardcore gamers. I mean, if I were to announce to everyone that I'm going to invest in stocks as a strong woman, and all I do is upload footage of me walking around the New York Stock Exchange making a complete ass of myself, I'm not going to inspire little girls around the world. Not only would little girls not give a shit about stock investment (let alone LoL tournaments), but I'd just end up showing everyone that women suck at investments and do the complete opposite of what I set out to achieve. They should just drop this stupid crusade and try finding a solution to a problem they're creating. Guys won't care about whatever characteristics the players have so why can't women celebrate that they're being viewed equally among men?

[@powerpc127]

Or imagine trying to show off how accomplished you are in the business world by taking your business partners golfing... Oh wait.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Bro what do you mean? As an accountant my recruitment video included me pitching myself as an accountant by changing the oil in my car.

[@thefunkydunks2717]

@@UndertakerU2ber They are being viewed as women, nothing more. Lel

[@crackgoat9780]

@@UndertakerU2ber remember 5 minutes into the video when it was stated that “they had no creative control over the video” paraphrasing it but that was basically what was said.

[@Alicia-rn8bg]

As a female... this is useless, there is equality on LOL. We all get flamed by yasuo, men or women

[@karanze8217]

But do we all int as Yasuo as well :thinking:

[@justinjakeashton]

Ah yes, the 3 types of LoL players: men, women and Yasuo.

[@carlosmspk]

Are there any women in the LCS? I haven't caught up on it, but the closes thing to a woman was that transgender woman, which I doubt women will feel like she represented them. There's clearly some inequality there, why that inequality exists is not up to me to decide, but it's there...

[@Nooterts]

There are some sexist verbal abuse I’ve seen thrown at people while playing. Like “___ is a female player” or “you play like a female”

[@Nooterts]

Schlomo Shekelbergtransgenderstein ahahahhaahaha

[@ruikirisame1744]

and this is why you dont get people that worked on jersey's shore to work on your trailer

[@rpscorp9457]

you nailed it sir..

[@auctoritate8254]

Rui Kirisame I mean that doesn't actually matter- it all matters how it was directed.

[@ricardorose3310]

It dosent matter they still shit .... so u can't change that . Should never have been a team , non of them were good enough . Only there for gender. It's funny how the one is doing" photography " lol soft porn from 1970's

[@tracexl]

This is also why you don't make a trailer until your stats justify one.

[@anitabonghit2758]

women need to learn self empowerment. its not powerful to rely on having acheivments handed to you on a silver platter just for being a gender. if you want to be a billion dollar CEO, start a successful company.

[@RedaVision]

They were too focused on the fact that they're female gamers and would promote that more, then actually practicing, learning and becoming good at the game...

[@chiefsosaya7869]

@Azrael Malaku I Maut SIMP

[@nova2804]

Rengar kinda late mr sir

[@lazaanlasagne3169]

@@nova2804 simp is only funny theese days tho

[@UndertakerU2ber]

@@lazaanlasagne3169 I don't think the dude is a simp though. I mean, I get the idea of throwing the term around for shits and giggles, but the guy seemed to just be talking about his experience playing LoL with friends...

[@Alphiepk]

Sadly CSGO has a similar problem, bunch of Female only teams that want to call themselves professionals but dont put in the work to make it so they resort to Female only tournaments (which i think is such a dumb idea for tournaments) & call themselves professionals off that, its a bunch of girls calling themselves t1 and t2 professional players without putting in the work to make it as an actual professional

[@HonakoGreen]

It's like Gender isn't a good criteria or something.

[@makishae9811]

Yeah but that stands for gender on most topics in which it is used. Gender isn't a good thing to judge people based on but it happens

[@spacetaco048]

stereotypes are the way to go man.

[@ruikirisame1744]

oh hi Honako, how's Cu doing?

[@Azureskies01]

Unless it is strength or teamwork based, or really anything that needs to get done right now kinda thing. Chicks don't do too well on that front.

[@OsmoZchannel]

azureskies01 come on dont be this stupid

[@Maniac742]

Team Siren can always join Bully Hunters if they're looking for new jobs.

[@mrtom2854]

Just what I was thinking 😂

[@demonpride1975]

@google user do you think the men in the pro teams always got along, guess what happens when you are around the same people day in day out, you almost get to a point that you end up hating them.

[@demonpride1975]

@Thomas Foster because men for the most part are more laid back then women, just because they get on each other's nerves. does not mean the men will stab each other in the back.

[@matt-jc4ly]

Hey man... I fucking watch Booby Hunters all the time! those girls find and work members of the steam community pretty hard!

[@nocturnalg2771]

Lmao one of my favorite things ever was watching this KZbinr review the whole bully hunters thing and say "What if the bully player is better at the game than the bully hunter? Does the first bully hunter call their own bully hunter?"

[@abyssalgodsword]

Team sirens problem was that their selling point was "omg grills"

[@Maquenchie]

it was the marketing teams problem, they were so retarded to make that as the main selling point that they essentially made the team a joke because they were girls, to me the marketing team behind the initial video was sexist and retarded

[@extyphlosion7347]

Jean .valjean Are you on tilt my dude? This is around the third comment I've seen from you that's dickish

[@edwardteach841]

the marketing was a bad point but the whole thing was a joke destined to fail from the start. they tried to throw a team of mismatched players most of whom could barely break the top 6% against well organized teams filled with the top 0.02% they drastically underestimated both the competition and the marketplace to an almost insulting degree

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

Mackenzie Po Exactly dude. Probably some militant feminist fucks. It pisses me off when people have no say in how they portray themselves to others.

[@XX24667]

I tought the problem was that they were fucking plat... 🤔

[@Heruagarwaen]

"You don't want to understand women. Women understand women and they hate eachother." -Al Bundy.

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

I don't think women truly understand women totally tho

[@seen203]

Al Bundy was such a sage.

[@telephonebitguy9296]

just because u quoted Al Bundy im gonna make another account and like this comment again

[@zacnieprawisz9171]

Heruagarwaen We don't hate each other, who told you that? At least not in Europe, where I live

[@sweetbunny6198]

Horseshit. Women have what is called an own group preference / in group bias.

[@craigbutler3282]

*WE LIVE TOGETHER. WE PLAY TOGETHER. WE’RE ON THE SAME PERIOD.*

[@fransjacob1759]

The way you said that proofs you don't know what a period is

[@craigbutler3282]

Frans Jacob I was quoting the vid (-_-)ゞ゛

[@fransjacob1759]

He didn't say that

[@craigbutler3282]

Frans Jacob 2:34

[@fransjacob1759]

brb killing myself

[@void735]

Thats why i love competive gaming. NO matter your race, gender or ethicity. Your team dont care. They want to win. The ultimate egalitarianism

[@Rebellions]

@@shimha4132 ow the edge

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@shimha4132 thats why they have the highest paid pros of any esport, more people go to watch worlds than any other esport, it was the most played game for 6 years of its lifespan, and has a thriving competitive ladder?

[@deluxe1075]

@@V2ULTRAKill dota>>>>>>>>lol

[@neroidius6915]

Not only that, but at the end of the day all just for fun and a hobby that you all have and can connect with each other through. Meanwhile, “FaiLuRe iS nOt aN OpTiON” “THiS iS biGgeR tHaN uS” They are taking this WAY too seriously and it’s so cringe

[@theshermantanker7043]

Gender or race is the last thing anyone cares about in a competitive game

[@MrLequitas]

"I put a link to her lewd photography in the description" the hero :^)

[@lordlampard7510]

God bless you Kudo

[@JaKe420Forever]

MrLequitas not really since you have to pay into her Patron to see the pictures

[@vinhny2406]

MrLequitas >>>:)

[@AstolfoCh]

VashTheStampede321 Thanks for the heads up XD

[@possession2]

Come on guys it's for research purposes... research into how quick my balls can turn inside out

[@LH62579]

Somehow I feel like girl gamers who are genuinely good at the game choose not to publicize themselves all over the media, because they don't feel the need to. Generally speaking, "girl gamers" in general who try to make themselves known are low elo players who use their gender and their boobs as a selling point. This is what gives actual female gamers a bad rep. It's kind of sad actually

[@alloisadino]

A bit late but yeah, I agree. A good example of a real female pro would probably be Scarlett from StarCraft II. She's actually really good at the game and is popular because of her skill, not because she's a girl :p

[@lqserbeans3515]

female gamers that don't care about the media attention whatsoever will call themselves gamers, not gamer girls

[@minaraonic440]

wintone true

[@divan4440]

allo but scarlett isnt even a real girl though. not to be transphobic blah blah blah but the fact she was a dude at one point still carries over to her personality.

[@tinale7573]

wintone Very true. That coin term is now only used by attention seekers. It just sounds embarassing as all hell to even say it.

[@MugenLord]

The Esports scene is based on skill, not color or gender. This is why we don't see many pro female gaming teams because not many of them have interest in participating in the scene, and most of them haven't reached a high skill level to compete against the best. Team Siren were girly girls and nothing wrong with that but their sponsors who made the trailer tried to make them into bad asses. The promotional was a hit piece against a male dominated scene and their agenda caused these girls to catch hell from the community. Not only that as the video said, none of these females were competing at a high level and yet they were given sponsorship's based on the fact that they were female. So how is it that guys have to grind it out to earn their way into sponsorship's and other deals while these girls are just given one based on their gender? They couldn't take the pressure and couldn't get along with one another, so that says a lot. I give them credit for continuing to play the game after the team broke up, so it shows they have passion for the game and its not just some get rich quick scheme for them. Except Yunnie though, since she trashed in the game she decides to rely on her looks and her body in Lewd photography to get ahead, smh....

[@TrungNguyen-is6lq]

Esport is based on skills and strategies, now you know why women dont join esport much :)

[@taestott]

Trung Nguyen You make it sound like women have no skill or can't strategize lol

[@llecture]

Trung Nguyen there is no difference between men and women in terms of skill, but since there are less women going into gaming, there is less chance of producing a pro-level female player than producing a pro-level male player. Women aren’t biologically disadvantaged in video games, however sports is a different can of worms.

[@randomguystudios6458]

Mugen Lord all bang and no buck comes to mind

[@illuminaticomfirmed6948]

And compared to the male pros they suck. Not surprising really, the average reaction time of a guy is lower than a girl's and CS:GO needs you to have roughly 200ms or lower to even be capable of reaching pro level. point being I and many others can never reach pro level no matter what due to our reaction times and that goes even worse for girls. Take an all star team of males and put them against an all star team of females, guys would win the majority of times.

[@chopperhead2012]

I feel so bad for these girls. The lowest solo win rate among them is 58% which is immense. But this is what happens when you make a team based on identity instead of something that actually matters such as merit or synergy. They obviously didn't play well as a team. I guarantee you they would all be fine matches on separate teams. But making an all girl team for the sake of having an all girl team is almost gimmicky.

[@Sheepisepic7511]

Winrates mean nothing when you're in a shit league.

[@bodariousbruh4549]

Almost gimmicky? Are you fucking stupid?

[@plorin3015]

Bodarious Bruh Wanna explain or?

[@bodariousbruh4549]

@@plorin3015 It's fully a gimmick. No almost about it.

[@plorin3015]

@@bodariousbruh4549 oh I see, then I whole heartedly agree with you thought you were disagreeing with him because you basically called him an idiot

[@AwesomeJaneUniverse]

Here's what I think, as simply as it can be put. It doesn't matter if you're a girl or guy. What matters is if you're good or not. That's it.

[@absolutezer3974]

I mean not to be sexist or anything but there hasn't been a single pro girl league of legends player in esports, either girls aren't that good or guys are too good.

[@AwesomeJaneUniverse]

Absolute Zerø I mean, whether if it is because girls are less encouraged/less welcome in different gaming communities or real skill differences, I don't know. There could be many factors. Games are also targeted more towards a male audience, and guys tend like video games more than gals. I wouldn't jump to conclusions, but I can understand what you're saying :)

[@ThunderonCZ]

Mens willingness to give up absolutely everything for gaming might be factor too. These pros eat and breathe LoL all day long. Regardless on how it affects their social life. They don't care that they if they don't have gf, they don't care if parents hate them, they don't care if they miss school as long as they play the game. Women need some kind of social interactions in their life more. They are on average more agreeable than men so they want to avoid direct conflicts. So completely destroying their family and friends relationships over video game is not worth it for them. And at the end of the day if they really loved the game and really wanted to be the best they would stick around.

[@zuzannanils]

Well, in some cases, you're right but you throw all the women in a drawer like that. I personally know a few women who live the game just like men. I'm not saying that you are not right.I just want to say that you should not throw a whole gender in a drawer. I am very bad in League and I am a woman. Ranks do not really matter to me in games, but to my bf is very important. I have a lot of girlfriends who like in your examples play very much in the game and live it. Sometimes, nothing else matters to them but the game. You do not need to offend me or portray me as a feminist. And I think the need of social interactions depends on the people not the gender.

[@ThunderonCZ]

I was reacting more to the post before. I think this "women are less encouraged" argument is silly. Most professional gamers were discouraged by their parents in the beginning and they still proceed to play and compete. Anyway do these girlfriends compete? I think one thing is to play casually MMO all day and be competitive. Do they play the game even when they don't feel like it? Do they regularly visit tournaments? Are they studying the boring but important side of the game? Do they believe that they can become best (at least locally)? Do they strive to be the best? Because when we talk about the best top players thats how they play and think.

[@ihizz87]

If they just came out as a team and not flaunt the whole all girls team and let the community do it, they wouldnt be so cringe and their fall wouldnt have been so quick perhaps.

[@rararasputin8608]

ihizz Seen people earn more without needing all the ads and shit. People are good either by experience or natural talent that is quickly developed into skill.

[@djhenyo]

I can guarantee you that putting Yunnie or Jenny on any LoL team would be absolute suicide.

[@pdpMASTERP]

of course it would... half the team was made up of platinums.. thats literally trash compared to any pro team

[@dark3rthanshadows]

dude they had sponsors, when u have sponsors u have to do many times what they tell u to do . but yeah the trash talking and atitude didn't helped either

[@TheOnlyGhxst]

+Tronan fex Their rank doesn't matter, people can improve you know. The more important thing is that if Jenny is actually as toxic as some of the other teammates said, then she would wreck any team she is on, especially if she was allowed to be the shot-caller. Team morale and working together properly is more important than any players individual skill. If you're toxic and ruin morale then you can lose the game before even playing.

[@Goldenbelmont]

Weren't Siren sponsored by Tampons? with the slogan "When was your First Blood?"

[@badboje6040]

please tell me your joking

[@junior16037]

Christopher Castle lmfaooo you're a legend😂😂😂

[@レッド-h1i]

Holy christ 😂😂😂😂

[@thebrownrecluse3927]

Best comment ever

[@iangamel4809]

Ok but like if i was a woman, id religiously buy that brand immediatly lmao

[@skippingstep1515]

Them being self-aware enough to know that that promotional video was bad from the get go makes them more forgiveable.

[@monicarr8869]

No one asked you to make these videos, We are so glad you do. Not the hero we deserve but the hero we needed.

[@jonathanmoors6103]

MONICARR champ*

[@korinoriz]

Too bad it seems most of the people here didn't really see the point of the video. inb4 "white knight beta"

[@_Reflected]

Hero y’all needed

[@erickmiller728]

Their logo is a fucking whale tail with angel wings. Someone knew this was a joke before they did

[@silver34211]

Erick Miller this is late but a siren is like a mermaid that Baits sailors and drowns them

[@TooCooFoYou]

I think they knew before that during the fucking Marvel fanfare ripoff.

[@jl8417]

Lule_Munkey Actually, traditional Sirens were more hawk-like

[@jl8417]

In Greek mythology, they were also known as harpies. The fish/mermaid aspect is a modern misconception

[@LittleSparklingStars]

I think the mermaid tail with wings looked cool

[@purpleplex]

Now this, this is a great video. Nice to hear an unbiased perspective on the Siren fiasco, feels like it was so long ago.

[@dieptrieu6564]

4 years is indeed long. LOL

[@krzysztofjaneczek506]

purpleplex 4 years ago SKT had only one win in Worlds... Yeah, its long time ago.

[@andrewzheng4038]

purpleplex to think, LoL was so young then...

[@IZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR]

I have only ever known about it through Dunkey

[@elgatochurro]

purpleplex unbiased? Idk what you were expecting from a team of women

[@metawarp7446]

They were presented as a gamergirl team... Don't be a girlgamer or gamergirl (even though that sounds hot) just be a *gamer.*

[@asiankid1557]

"even though that sounds hot" JWJSKSKSLSLZ LMAO

[@stealthyshibe4904]

Nope. Doesn't sound hot at all.

[@whossoap355]

Thots are still just thots

[@FurchtbaresGaming]

AMEN!

[@Nathan-yu7cu]

lmao cringe

[@dtczyk8976]

“I’ll link the lewd photography” not all hero’s wear capes.

[@jameshiawo2771]

d tczyk I’m waiting??

[@nova2804]

At the top of his desc. Too XD

[@lionelpolo221]

Not if Edna has anything to say about it

[@Nobody-hc1rw]

As a man of culture ive done my research and have to admit: they are pretty good pictures.

[@siputhijau8253]

@@Nobody-hc1rw ahh is was okay

[@DialgaMarine3]

When you try to use gender and race as a means to market something, instead of talent and character, it’s pretty much always going to backfire. Also, the part of Jenny calling the other team pussies and trying to berate them genuinely pissed me off; not because I find it offensive, but because you know damn well if it were the other way around, every internet SJW aware would be performing a witch hunt on the male team. The double standard is exhausting.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

DialgaMarine3 I'm gonna make a full Laotian team, because the population of Laos is smaller than the population of League players, and it's disgusting.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

DialgaMarine3 Yo shit, the triple L

[@danr8267]

“Bully hunters” lmao

[@mariusss95]

Unfortunately, now we elect leaders because of their race and gender. Which is pathetic!!!!

[@mipfel8065]

Dunkeys vid to this basically says it all

[@harleen9971]

ITS A CUP!

[@ruthespiritu502]

Thanks to Siren, I found Dunk fr

[@asujeto-7179]

Aaaahhhh!! NOOO!!! "I'm not afraid of cups"

[@lizardmedia2257]

Mipfel yep

[@YasaiTsume]

GAAAHHHHHH

[@keiko909]

as there are far too many white men in gaming, i'm going to create my own black LoL team, called "negamers"

[@peejayss131]

Not to be racist, but, can you go for The Bruddahood? Or the Forest Men? (Forest version of JoJo's Pillar Men)

[@Firstsurugi]

Honestly, it'd probably work out way better than this trainwreck.

[@torachan23]

@@peejayss131 I like Bruddahood lol

[@drac4597]

The bruddahood sound more like an Italian group so maybe the negahood

[@kjrana9488]

@@drac4597 The bruddahood sounds good

[@Youmuus]

How to counter Team siren ban Ahri lux Janna Kappa

[@abusiveplaguedoctor]

Youmuus Don't forget soraka and sona :P

[@myclearmind]

If i scroll deep enough on any video, I can find Yoummus Kappa

[@yyhn7168]

Youmuus irelia too

[@taky8029]

Roi Antopina no irelia is too mechanically skilled

[@Oakdice]

I can't breathe LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Zazder]

Does it really matter if they are an all woman team, if there is a good player who is a female why not just invite them instead of forcing some mediocre players together?

[@ItsJustZeeBTW]

When you market YOUR OWN SELF as an all-grill team then no shit it matters.

[@AzraelJiraco]

No, it doesn't matter. However, if you're low LP Diamond 1, you're not good enough for pro play. You'll need an alternative selling point, such as being an all girl team. Even then, only two of them were even that high ELO. Take it from me, Challenger players dumbster on us Diamond players.

[@leradmuiel7634]

This is how we get bitches like Zoe Quinn

[@diegouy8482]

There was a challenger support female. She was well known for her predictions and her thresh plays. I forgot her name though. She was in eu lcs for a bit i think.

[@Galdervorn]

iirc she was actually transgender, not really a girl

[@tinykass]

So you're telling me a team of 5 women had trouble getting along? noooooowayyyy

[@aibax2610]

not because they were women, because it was poorly directed.

[@rope435]

Nah probably because they were women

[@fishbonesinc]

Yeah, there has never been an all male team that had problems getting along.

[@CaptainFicus]

i think the fact that there are a plethora of all male teams that are functional, while the first and only all female team couldn't get along is a little more than coincidence.

[@YourPalJamieEllis]

I think you might not get statistics then. 1 is a pretty insignificant sample size.

[@bigchungus4620]

"Women aren't represented in esports gaming." No, the majority of women don't usually play videogames. I barely encounter gamer girls inside fortnite tf2 rainbow six siege overwatch or CSGO. All of which are competitive (except tf2) If there were a majority of women playing esports, they would be represented. Women are 51% of the population and tend to be born more. Majority of men like video games, while women like doing other things. There is nothing wrong with that. But when you blame men for women not being represented in esports, it really insults us and that's why you get so much hate.

[@misantrope6267]

TF2 has UGC, ETF2L and other leagues that are extremely competetitive

[@Pootis-Spencer]

The only place I found another girls who played OW was in a video showing an e-girl throwing her comp games for lack of getting along with another girl, with a comment full of other girls talking about their expiriences with toxic gamergirls. You barely can tell if someone of your team compossed by Reinhart WBall Genji Widow Lucio and Baptiste is actually a woman, specially if you tag is some "normal name" like random anime reference

[@alegria1813]

IKR this feminazi shit is annoying, I'm a girl and I don't care about "females not being represented in esports" cause I know that usually, girls don't like gaming especially competitive gaming. We don't want all female teams. We just want good gamers that happend to be female. That's it.

[@carlamartinezmangas4112]

There's alot of girls who play videogames, the thing is, the games we usually play aren't ones to be considered competitive (ex: Animal crossing, New Style Boutique, Zelda, Rayman, Mobile phone videogames, etc.

[@Lauren-rl4eu]

literally almost every women I've met under a certain age likes video games to some extent. We just have better taste than fortnite and fucking rainbow six

[@samvimes9510]

3:55 well that's one hell of a way to introduce someone to guns. You get forced to go to a shooting range for a cringy video, you fire a gun for the first time ever and then suddenly you've got a hot shell in between your breasts. That's gotta suck.

[@zwillia.s1432]

Sam Vimes yeah at least where like the right clothing

[@sovietcharity]

Z Willia.s Yeah, better wear a fully body jumpsuit in the blistering heat.

[@ctm37ninja]

damn a group of girls broken up because of drama... who would have guessed

[@WhaleManMan]

If you think boy groups, especially in gaming, dont get into petty squabbles, have I got news for u

[@Bell-ih5ln]

@@WhaleManMan well but it happens more with gals

[@bloozism]

Baited and outsmarted

[@METALRON]

So outsmarted one of them had to get into softcore porn pics. So smart.

[@deusdeusasmodeus]

bloozism hahahaha damn boiiiiiiii

[@almalone3282]

METALRON source..... NOW

[@METALRON]

It's in the video description, but here you go. Stretch marks and all. I will say I do like that phat ass. I'm a sucker for booty. www.patreon.com/Yoonie

[@almalone3282]

METALRON lol this bitches prices are crazy 100 dollars for like 20 pictures and a video. you can't even pick the pose she is in just the outfit LOL

[@bobblegome1022]

A lot of you didn't seem to even watch this video. The reason everything was so cringy was because of the marketing team forcing them to do it for $$$. The girls themselves didn't like the promo video & they had no say in any of it.

[@shgds]

@Virgo who wouldn't?

[@shgds]

@Virgo what?

[@shgds]

@Virgo :(

[@Seriona1]

The worse being the firing range. That was down right embarrassing. You give them firearms to shoot with no training at all.

[@AquosFrost]

nah lets hate on them

[@blodus4521]

Some talentless agent probably thought this whole thing was a good idea.

[@bassegunkidung7162]

*I ' M A S I R E N*

[@rayannaeem1130]

Basse Gunkidung I m a genie

[@Kfcbby33]

*IMA BANANA*

[@2bnot178]

Ur prof pic just ruined it. ~WTF~

[@steadyrhythms9571]

WEEEEE WOOOOOOO WEEEE WOOOOOOOO

[@ekusu9326]

*WEE WOOO WEEE WOOO*

[@randomclips5449]

Great video. Honestly, Team Siren just hyped themselves up before they were ready. No one would have known about them if they didn't release the cringe-infamous video.

[@DjokovicIsOurLordAndSaviour]

Well, I think the video was intended to get attention for stream views etc. But, this is a good example of how not all publicity is good haha.

[@generalgrievous9947]

"Sirens after hours" sounds like something totally different

An girls-only team could totally work out if it had genuinely good players. It'd also be great for the League community 'cause it would encourage girls to play the game

[@Sandity]

André Tostes Meh, girls are too emotional for men to ever take them seriously. Men have it hard enough understanding each other as is.

[@teddykal9838]

André Tostes Are you a league player and care about vocals????? What server are you in?

[@Kylesico912x]

Thing is, the girls are better than most players on league right now. They are just no where near pro level.

+The Sandity lol women can totally have emotional control, there's no such thing as "women are too emotional for League"

+Kylesico912x dude, there must be 5 capable girls hiding somewhere. League is the most played game worldwide, i don't think there aren't 5 near-pro level girls

[@lynchsurvivors3359]

see these stereotype women are the reason i pretend im a man in league. there are a lot of girls pretending they are male ingame just to avoid being associated with cringy stereotypes like this

[@oguzoflaz270]

Lynch Survivors is it as much fun as pretending to be a woman? (serious Question)

[@ebinn6381]

''pretend'' goes in game ''Hey team im a guy okay whaman amirite? XD'' what does pretending even mean when no one asks for your gender

[@lostlambv2939]

+Dee Jay I think they mean if someone asks they pretend they are a guy or use male pronouns in a game

[@fjparasitemoreira1354]

Honestly if you're male female or transgender doesn't matter. Only if you are good or bad. This video basically says WOMEN ONLY, NO MEN. Which imo is last milenium bullshit. Rejecting a good player because he has a penis???? I understand playing ONLY with your friends or ONLY with good players but this is a bad message to send. If a guy said NO WOMEN IN MY TEAM he would be turned into a pariah, a sexist asshole and a massive douche. The news would call him out on that.

[@jimboblordofeskimos]

I have a steam account with a stock picture of a slightly geeky looking girl with a description to match. Go heavy on the cute emojis in chat and... It has more friends than my real account and people send this fake girl games for her birthday. Im not sure if this is fun or sad tbh. (I say I dont use voice chat because 'people can be mean but I just like to be chill and play games ಠ_ಠ, but you seem nice (◠﹏◠✿)')

[@ososracing4037]

"We said that losing was not an option, so we decided to bait them and outsmart them" I fkin lost my shit at that part

[@DeadlyDanDaMan]

Team Siren: "We're gonna bate you!!" Every LoL nerd male: "Oh please yes!!"

[@spardaprowess3277]

Bronze 1 male gamer : oh look an easy 1st win 😁

[@Cinko420]

DeadlyDanDaMan That one person named "bait": (I am fully aware how unoriginal this is)

[@kingabalos]

They should make a new All-Female team consisting of Poki, Emiru, Kaceytron, Kelly Jean, and that french grill in Foxdrop's Boosting Hot Grill series. Not gonna win shit, but imagine their live stream views.

[@justin2229]

so... DeltaFox Female Ver.?

[@jpersson743]

l Sytes tilt is still a dude dumbass check his stream.

[@viscero6448]

Isn't kaceytron that one streamer that afk's in half her games? Also KayPea should be there.

[@victory_ao]

Lilypichu too

[@Darkerxz]

Tiddy

[@mrmangbro6842]

Maybe if they were all upper diamond the team coulda worked but really fuckin low plats? XD

[@mrmangbro6842]

Well not worked but had a better chance at winning

[@andrewzheng4038]

Aced By Chase should've imported some Diamond KR girls, then they might stand a chance

[@AzraelJiraco]

Can confirm. Challengers dumbster on us Diamonds.

[@fleur4610]

Maybe they could’ve stood a chance, sometimes rank doesn’t matter, it really depends on how you control you map, Laning, and objectives. Maybe they could’ve won if they had better team synergy or better coach. Hopefully in the future there’s a team of girls or at least one or two girls in a team. That would make competitive play much more interesting.

[@eggsacuteme3456]

Fleur the reason they're not high ranking is because they don't have those things

[@dannydang4738]

A team of girls disbanded due to drama within the team. Ahhh classic.

[@dimitristsadiotis5644]

"she supports herself by doing photography"

[@leonardobianucci6218]

Now i need to know how much faker can make with the same tactic

[@DOMiNOUKAE]

#onlyfans

[@stoggafllik]

The f**king irony. Women want respect but yet they shame themselves all the time without even realising it. Then when they’re called out for it, critiques are shamed by words such as “incel”, “sexist” etc.

[@derpnerpwerp]

@@stoggafllik who gives a fuck what she does? Also, she's is not "women" she is one person. You want to know the real reason why women have onlyfans? Because there is a huge market for it and it pays well. As long as there is a high paying demand there will be a supply. This is the same reason there are drug dealers.

[@stoggafllik]

@@derpnerpwerp Abandoning morals for s*x work is pretty much society nowadays. Sad ain’t it? And we have orbitters like you who would enjoy paying for content like this

[@chrischen6664]

a GOLD team can gain a sponsorship? XD

[@99bits46]

and 5000 viewers per streamer considering it was 4 years ago.. tbh they blew their shot, all they lacked was leadership

[@CrisMinuano]

they were diamond at the time you silver "xd" user

[@Bobfoblo]

CrisMinuano their 5s team was gold

[@daway212]

Chris Chen they only had 100 games in their 5s team, not to mention, 5s team games were a joke/used to practice comps and such back then

[@alexderek5233]

😂 2013. Too bad this sorta shit didnt stop but got worse

[@ijirving]

I remember a lot of people called "sexism" when Team Siren got roasted. But if a team of 5 guys in plat and low diamond made the same video they would have gotten the same treatment.

[@siegvash]

Probably worse

[@spacelizard5280]

Can't wait for my bronze 5 team's video to be released, be ready guys. In all seriousness though if I was a rich fuck I'd def. buy a slot in the LCS somehow just to get shat on by pro players. If Team Siren could take the cringe reactions with a grain of salt and turn them into comedic effect they'd be goddesses today. Instead they imploded tho.

[@coolman2805]

you’re out of your mind if you think your comment is even remotely realistic

[@coolman2805]

it wouldn't become any more than a minor addition to some youtuber's cringe compilation. it certainly wouldn't blow up as big as this situation had. their video is garbage but acting like them being women has nothing to do with it is straight up retarded. you 100% know, regardless of how ignorant you might pride yourself on being, that them being men would drastically diminish the controversy of their publicity stunts.

[@Dogslayer]

Elijah I don't know if you saw the Fnatic promotion video when it came out, but that was imo a lot more cringe than the Siren video and turned into a meme the second it came out. If they weren't one of the best teams in the world to back it up the situation would be pretty much identical to this

[@OblivionFalls]

They didn't fall because "too many womens", they fell because "not enough koreans" :p

[@notdeku9197]

OblivionFall womens lol

[@spicyvro]

I mean yeah, Koreans are fucking hot

[@TreeColor]

It's funny because it's true

[@aster4405]

WOMEN..... TRIGGERED XD

[@zgoombah1308]

They thought they could compensate for a lack of Koreans by being Jewish lmao

[@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow]

“A CUP!l” “NOOOOOOO” “I’m not afraid of cups”

[@e.n8461]

A fellow dunkier

[@itsHvKz]

I was gonna say that Yoonie seemed like the only cool and chill person from this vid. And man when the ending came about her patreon i was actually shocked..

[@mystavis2344]

I mean doing lewd photography doesn't make you not cool or less of a person.

[@revoltncock]

Mystavis you wouldn't want your mom doing lewd photography.

[@rokor3578]

Mystavis wrong

[@ChildOfFury]

Doesn't make her less of a person, but I think some might find it disappointing she didn't completely escape the stereotyping of a lot popular female gamers. But sex sells :/

[@monkeypatee]

Internet Potato You better tell pornhub.

[@OmegaGamingNetwork]

Team Siren, a perfect example of what happens when you try to build a team that is more concerned with how "Hot" the girls are over how "Good" they are at the actual game. The sad reality was not one of them was even remotely good at the game.

[@illuminaticomfirmed6948]

Half of them weren't even hot.

[@Michael-hj7vj]

... even remotely good at the game... Donno Diamond 1 sounds pretty good for me.

[@fckthefearturkey]

Shamo for a pro? Hell no. I play overwatch and im diamond and put me against some masters and I will loose almost guaranteed. Sure ow is not league but the ranks are the same. Im pretty sure all male pros are challenger rank.

[@dmoneyswagg64]

OmegaGamingNetwork none of them were in any way attractive...

[@dmoneyswagg64]

Joel Peter key words being "pretty sure". You don't know shit so don't say shit.

[@Espionia]

I love the gameplay editor. They try to make the most nonchalant things amazing like "JANNA WITH THAT POINT BLANK TORNADO??!??!?? ARE YOU SERIOUS? TEAM SIRENS WITH THE HUUUUUUUGE OUTPLAY" Edit: I am a fucking idiot and cant spell for shit, thank you Yusuke

[@3dDoener]

I N H U M A N REACTIONS!!!!!

[@Euphoria600]

You should be featured for spelling nonchalant as non shalon lmao

[@olafviktormastermind]

Espionia why tf did you spell non shalon like nonchalant

[@Espionia]

because my spelling is even more boosted then a B5 first timing Vayne with 800 ping

[@RSiQu]

than* LUL

[@Bronsons]

12:00 if you said "a penis" and ended the video I would have lost my mind hahaha

[@JF098]

Omg LOLLL

[@linusschanreitner5825]

XD

[@鄧南英]

LMAO

[@rioti7318]

christ im dying

[@juneoh21]

11:27 Yellowstar we all see that hand

[@seccibist]

both of his hands lmao

[@jassan2161]

what a god

[@revoltncock]

Why is there always a need to prop women up and make things "more equal" just because men happen to be a majority in something. You always end in failure when you try and blow smoke up peoples asses instead of letting you know things like actual talent and skill be the leading factor.

[@littlelottieable]

FlipMode can you make sure what you're saying makes sense before you post an opinion on the internet

[@revoltncock]

Amanda Niles Try to read it slower and not get your panties in a knot.

[@ryzym1444]

But it does make sense.

[@oguzoflaz270]

Amanda Niles it's true though these girls always wearing short clothes to get attention

[@LeonBelmont1000]

I mean, I dont know any females that are innovators in builds/strats, they always tailgate behind the males that pave the roads of success. Even in the beginning, that one dude admits that they came to him for help, that doesn't sound like the "independent" mantra females tout 24/7 about how they are fully capable, cause if they were, they wouldn't be asking males for the blueprint, they would be writing one themselves.

[@Aliciel]

You'll be big someday. Just keep up with good vids

[@PedroHenrique-hv4sj]

yuuMizuhara you're calling him fat

[@pekraab]

yuuMizuhara i

[@randalica92]

yuuMizuhara inb4 demonetized

[@catmerchant8699]

Thanks dad

[@MrQueen8488]

yuuMizuhara Its so wierd seeing such positivity on anything to do with league

[@lordeehynn8878]

I love how casually says how he'll link the lude photography, what a legend

[@StonkeyKong]

Wait they were only plat/diamond? I knew they were a meme but I thought they were legitimately good and just fucked up their advertising..... wtf?

[@voysmer6301]

there was challenger, but there wasn't master

[@TakesTwoToTango]

nah, only 2 of them were actually at an appropriate level to go pro (D1 in a time before challenger tier).

[@funnyjoshua641]

The only 'challenger level' diamond 1 players back then were the ones who were legit stuck at 99lp d1.

[@SoFxEquinox]

@TakesTwoToTango they had challenger rank in season 3.

[@TakesTwoToTango]

Alvin Yakatori they (as a team) disbanded before S3. I followed Ilysuiteheart and Solvanas on Twitch. They were not challenger, they were high plat to mid diamond.

[@EndZiiel]

Heaps of people could be this good if they lower their standards and play League 12 hours a day and not care about getting a real full-time job

[@joshdavidson9844]

EndZiiel I mean I'd rather be a pro gamer and have a good time and make good money over working a boring ass job

[@fordauntless7139]

I agree that it'd be a much better time than working, but if you think they make "good" money, you'd be wrong.

[@Nr4747]

This is actually a fallacy. *A lot* of people could be *on the cusp* of being good enough to be a pro in *any* form of competition if they dedicated their lives to it. But you either need some innate talent, start from a very young age, or sacrifice *everything else* to be a *really good pro* (and even then it's not guaranteed). This is why choosing sports (or any other form of competition) as your *career* is usually a *terrible* idea. Even in less popular and less crowded competitions, there are literally hundreds or even thousands of unknown "semi-pros" who can barely scrape by on ramen noodles and odd jobs while persuing their competitive careers.

[@bigbirb340]

Except people realize that a) not everyone has parents who will have them stay in their basement till they are 35 b) you have to get money somehow, sitting and playing video games doesn't quite include that aspect c) you don't start earning enough money for survival until you are actually pro---> d) considering you'll ever become one at all. Many don't. A lot.

[@alekss6620]

For Dauntless Youre right they dont make good Money, they make amazing money

[@ericofire]

so you're saying my diamond 5 ass could have been on a pro team if i was a girl. wtf tumblr XD

[@S2Tubes]

You could have gotten sponsorship at least, and been a successful boob streamer. Male boob streamers tend not to make as much money. That's the real sexism right there.

[@randomguystudios6458]

Lmao and my bronze ass

[@MoosGoCow1]

First all female LoL team. Emphasis on the 'LOL'

[@METALRON]

I love that one of them got into doing softcore porn when they failed lol. That is hilarious.

[@baisansebastian3358]

Lewd Pictures=Softcore porn. aight

[@EclipsedEquinox]

@@baisansebastian3358 what would you consider softcore?

[@baisansebastian3358]

Spooning,caressing intimate parts,stuff like that. By this dude s logic,taking a pic while in a swimming costume is doing softcore porn.

[@JordG0tBored]

Baisan Sebastian No. You're wrong lmao. What she does is in fact softcore porn. Any sort of actual sexual acts are always considered "Hardcore" porn

[@baisansebastian3358]

Hmmm no. Costume set shoots are not softcore porn. Not even close to it.

[@TFallenAngle]

I don't think you nessarly need a all girls team I mean girls that are good enough come want to join they should be able to easily just join an existing team but it would be interesting to see a all girls team that wasn't dog shit actually compete

[@mousysaint9143]

Statistics don't "prove" anything you moron... Even a 14 year old knows correlation doesn't mean causation.

[@mousysaint9143]

Sport is not all the competitions in the world. Statistics don't prove men are better at sports, science does you imbecile. Statistics just reinforce the theory.

[@B..P..]

Science uses statitics to reinforce the theory but this is not a theory.Its a fact that men are superior competitors.You think women can run faster than men ? you think women are physically stronger than men ? You think women are smarter than men ?

[@ruiqi22]

Bruno Padilha “you think women are smarter than men?” According statistics, which you seem to think prove correlation = causation, yes. They are. As evidenced by how China lowered standards for boys in their middle and high school rising tests...

[@Masteroftheweb]

Last time I saw anything about gender specific intelligence, in terms of a bell curve, men tend to be smarter then woman, but just as they are smarter, they are dumber. Men exist at both extremes of intelligence more than woman, and woman make up more of an "average". As a simplistic example, woman's IQ range is 90-110, where men's is 80-120. Disclaimer, I don't know if that study is still relevant.

[@Unkown2ful]

Why isn't there girl and guy co team in league of legends

[@shaginus]

Normally Girls choose not to be on competitive in my country there's a lot of female progamer but they are actually very good not because they're girls

[@andrewzheng4038]

FinalHoon Zoom technically it is allowed. Renegades actually had that female support player (I forgot what her name was) back in what I believe was season 5, but they were relegated and soon after disbanded by Riot for collusion with Team Dragon Knights. Since then, she's disappeared from the radar (and her name from my memory)

[@cheese9919]

Zheng Of the Zen Her name is Remi

[@addictedtodeers]

welp remi is now the sub support for flyquest so technically there is one?

[@fraufeed5626]

She is trans

[@blankblankson3655]

The staged chess was hilarious.

[@jessewills7441]

I feel for them, that must of been a rough time for those people to go through.

[@mousysaint9143]

Really doesn't matter. She can do whatever she wants seperately.

[@Smellerzerker]

Jesse Wills I

[@Bluustar225]

she looks better than u ;)

[@GodplayGamerZulul]

nah theyre shit, bet i could rekt them 1v5

[@Cris-22169]

MUST HAVE*

[@woochoi3373]

Shit players = shit team. Even if youre challenger, you can still be a shit player. It takes WAY more than just being a challgener player to be considered good

[@funnyjoshua641]

They were plat and diamond, none of them were even at the 99lp d1 marks which was still too low to compete with pros, pros that maintain top50ish challenger.

[@kevinkevin5973]

back then there was no challenger and master, d1 was the bets rank possible. Lp gains and losses at high d1 were incredibly tiny so d1 30 lp was like d1 100lp now and anything over 30 was basically master and anythign over 80/90lp challenger. So the two d1 players could actually have been good enough to be a pro with soem training, the other 3 are trash and had nothign to do there

[@funnyjoshua641]

But diamond rank and challenger rank came out at the time time. They both got put in when season 3 came out.

[@funnyjoshua641]

Also elementz was platinum as a pro player.

[@MrMhtmht]

The real problem is all these cucks who carried them to plat and diamond. That's the true evil of League.

[@aviator3330]

Sona mid and lux sup... ok glhf

[@lei-1474]

I'm not trying to stereotype women here but one thing I find among many female League players, is that they will stick to female champions no matter what. Even if the matchup is bad.

[@hedgehonk880]

Lei - they just appeal more to me. i cant find anything fun about lucian but vayne is amazing lol

[@jamescaldwell6205]

elena n Vayne is a great ADC that's still in the meta, but lux and sona are both terrible picks right now and have been for a while

[@spacelizard5280]

you can make lux work @ mid pretty easily if you know what you are doing as with all champs, especially until mid dia or so. After that people consistently go for counter match ups and actually know how to play them which means you are gonna have a hard time unless you're at least a tiny bit better.

[@jamescaldwell6205]

Space Lizard yeah i see. i'm a malph main and whenever i see someone go lux mid they get dumped on. silver 3 here

[@Arbal3st]

Their legacy is Dunkey's most hilarious video

[@tcarr8004]

this is shockingly non hateful god job dude

[@rabid123fox]

NihilisticEntropy lol why should he, he’s just pointing out that the commentator didn’t bash on them and did a good job of remaining unbiased contrary to what I’m sure a lot of viewers thought this would be

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

T Carr Does it fucking matter? If they fail, they deserve to be laughed at.

[@allthatishere]

Dolphinboi Wow, what a shit way to look at something. Man, gamers get more and more depressing by the generation.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

allthatishere If _they_ make a joke out of their endeavor, is it not okay to laugh? It _is_ a joke, after all. They just weren't serious enough. If you can do an awesome trick on a skateboard, and somebody scoffs at you, says they can do the same trick, then fail miserably at it, do you not look down on them for talking down to you?

[@allthatishere]

Dolphinboi Me, personally? No. I don't go out of my way to insult people just becasue they mock me. I'm 29, not 12. I was over high school theatrics, well, back in high school. I'm too old for this shit.

[@marksong8626]

Although the team was a huge joke, I still respect these players for what they were and their willingness to be good at the game, not just some publicity stunt. (The team itself was a stunt but i think these girls are just liking the game)

[@jesuszamora6949]

At least they weren't the fucking Fragdolls.

[@Appleeatpie97]

Jesus Zamora Fragdolls ?

[@Gangfang]

A group of women that cant get along? Nooooooo, really?

[@JTheWarsmith]

"This is bigger then us." ....That what she said!

[@fatsloth9209]

lets make a team full of plat players and call us professionals!

[@resendezpro225]

Lol let's just start a bronze team and claim we are professionals

[@hru7076]

hit me up.

[@PaleCaretaker]

resendezpro 22 I'm in.

[@kadutka5224]

im also in

[@aive751]

plat/dia back then was masters/challenger

[@Lumivalkoinen_]

im not afraid of cups!

[@madmaks1980]

Elias Peltonen "HERE'S A CUP!"

[@pvt.prinny759]

Im not afraid of D-cups

[@Gambit771]

Somehow they were able to obtain sponsorship. I'm sure the main selling point of being the first all female wasn't the main nor only reason and where is bullyhunter for Jenny's comments?

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

Gambit771 Bullyhunters dissolved about as fast as Siren did.

[@self-lovingloser1108]

Women are so fucking cringe :D

[@lovelyismydog]

self-loving loser ur cringe

[@Gambit771]

@@lovelyismydog I hope your comment was being ironic.

[@adityabhardwaj875]

@@lovelyismydog r/strongbeautifulwoman

[@darkorys8012]

There are reasons why most of the players are men, women in general are less into computer games overall, and so, as the proportion of pro players is very small, and the proportion of female players is comparatively big(,to proplayers) but still small to the hole playerbase, it would be very strange for there to be women in the higher echelons of competitive play. Plus here there is no affirmative action to help, so to be high up there you need to work yourself to the top instead of being elevated by the laws and regulations.

[@Seriona1]

Actually the real reason why women are not into video games is that video games for the most part involve competition or combat. Men have to have some kind of combat skill because if we don't, the pack doesn't get feed or to live hence why we are so heavy into sports and/or video games, it trains our animal side to stay alert in the animal world. Women while need some form of natural combat since they directly shelter the kid, normally don't need it to survive so the animal side works more for the auxiliary roles in the pack which would explain why most female gamers avoid direct roles. No one will admit this because we've been trained to think we are somehow outside evolution.

[@blair2670]

@@Seriona1 my man spitting raw fax hate him or love him

[@biancblavk493]

@@Seriona1 neckbeard spotted

[@biancblavk493]

@@Seriona1 neckbeard spotted

[@biancblavk493]

@@Seriona1 neckbeard spotted

[@Queeb]

They are in plat and diamond. I'm still in silver.

[@3XZDgg]

here's another nail in your coffin, back then. dia/plat is on par with today's masters/chall. masters/chall didn't exist back then. diamond was challenger.

[@Frikgeek]

No. challenger was introduced with the introduction of the LP system in Season 3. There was no diamond in S1, no challenger in S2, and no master in S3. Diamond back then was roughly equal to diamond now, aside from D1 which took the place of master. D1 was a huge grind, with LP wins and losses being heavily reduced to house everyone from rank 1500 to rank 50. You'd generally get +/-3 LP per game. D1 25LP would be like D1 100 LP now, with anything over 30 being like master 0 LP. D1 95 lp+ would be like challenger, there were always at least 100 players 'stuck' at D1 99LP and getting +0 every win because their MMR wasn't higher than the #50 player in challenger. So if you were plat back then you were roughly equal to a plat player right now, same for diamond aside from D1.

[@AzraelJiraco]

I have to side with Frikgeek. Only a small portion of Diamond 1 players were good enough to be separated as Challengers when the tier was introduced. Take it from me, Challenger players trounce us Diamond players all the time.

[@blitzkriegdiscord3366]

I'm platinum, it doesn't get better

[@garryharreth6542]

Some of them even diamond 1 at that times. LOL

[@petrol_vadim]

theres a difference between saying you're good and actually being good

[@taefer7437]

Siren was a good meme, I don't get the hate towards them though, most of them actually seemed very down-to-earth. The trailer for their team who got them famous was pretty funny though!

[@leonardobianucci6218]

I dont play or follow league but i kinda understard the hate. It a group pop UP and claim they Will make it big in you sport even when dont having the needed skills their are insulting your hobby or even lifestyle. Pro players go for a lot to reach where they are and a team claming their are in Equal ground just because they special feature Is that they are women Is in fact insulting. Like Lets flip this. A guy make a video telling he can defeat the world female box champion just because he Is a man and some Time he fights some matchs as His local gym and he win 60% of the time. See the problem?

[@chrismorris6865]

I don't have any hate for any of them, but I get why trolls jumped on that promo video and Siren as a whole. The promo video was most likely made by people who had no clue what League of Legends even was, so I don't blame the girls themselves for how cringey it turned out, they even seemed to know how bad it was. It was a mix of 1. a girl power message 2. cringey content and 3. a lack of the amount of skill needed to prevent mockery and those factors combined to make Team Siren into the LoL equivalent of throwing a limbless gazelle into a den of starving lions, especially considering the toxicity that is League's fanbase.

[@Tessitura9]

As a girl gamer, I can honestly say there was something very distasteful about these women. It seemed there was more emphasis on them being women than being gamers, which is distracting and counter intuitive. I'm all for girl power and female empowerment, but it would seem an emphasis on being a gamer that happens to be women serves their purpose better. The whole point is to prove you're worthy and belong by just belonging. I find that that attitude demands respect much more than riding the "I'm a girl" wave. It's the same with metal bands for example. If you're a kick ass artist and you're a girl, you're respected (minus assholes). If you're like "look at me, I'm a girl" and it's literally all you talk about, it's hard to respect you. Just my opinion.

[@fabiomoreira1506]

Also they were liars. They aren't the first all women team. The first all women team was Korean i think.

[@deathrager2404]

and then these broads have the nerve to hate on men by saying: men always know better and want to act like they re better. yea, them lying about being the first all female team, totally not bragging or knowing and acting better , at all.

[@AlFasGD]

I completely agree, however you could've stated your gamer girl state differently. It gives people the wrong idea.

[@Sposchy]

Very well made video. You don't see much these days that's this clear-headed and reasonable.

[@defectiveclone8450]

Lol.. Get a group of challenger girls.. Thats the only way.. Plat and diamond trash cant be in pro play

[@iech0526]

So true lmao.

[@aomda355]

I only know 3 girls in NA Masters and they're all trans.

[@jeyah8034]

there's alot of diamond players in league esports though.

[@aomda355]

There are a lot, Solo Queue and Pro Play is almost entirely different, Solo Queue you have to be extremely good to get at the top and in Pro Play you don't need the mechanical skills, you just need to have synergy; Apollo is a shit adc in Solo Queue but plays extremely well in LCS, Duke wasn't a really good player but he still won worlds with SKT.

[@yankochoynev652]

there are 200 challenger players in each region. I'm not sure how many of them are female but let's say for the sake of the argument that they are 20 (more likely there are zero, but since allegedly 10% of the playerbase is female I'll give them 10%). Out of these 20 people you need to find one for each role. Since we all know girls play support only, it will be hard to find players to fill the other positions. Let's imagine there are enough challenger women to form a team, all roles filled. What are the chances all of them actually want to join a team, and if they join, what are the chances that all 5 people will get along with each other.

[@ameliascaresyou710]

Lol trying to make a team when you’re platinum and diamond...

[@ameliascaresyou710]

@Chace Shinohara your insecurity is showing.

[@LongWarEnjoyer]

Okay we get it you’re cool 👍🧐

[@jackkraken3888]

And a someone who has no clue what these mean. How bad is this?

[@armouredjester1622]

Platinum and diamond sound like good ranks

[@ExtraRuRo]

@@armouredjester1622 there are 3 ranks above diamond ( I don't know the ranks on that season) but those ranks are pretty low to be in the pro scene Edit. Yes those are pretty good ranks, at least to me as a silver xd. But not enough to compete against pros

[@idontknowmyname552]

They had everything except Skills.

[@ammarstarcevic9464]

And penises

[@maxi10m.carp14]

@@ammarstarcevic9464 yes

[@Ze_N00B]

@@ammarstarcevic9464 Shafts? Yes. But I have witnessed women with some serious balls. They don't have those either.

[@jakobpadberg3257]

listen... DON'T BRING POLITICS INTO GAMING

[@defvii]

tldr: someone decides to start a all female out of passion for the game and as what was probably a fun project. Somehow manages to get sponsors and runs with it as a full time thing for 6months.

[@hexerin]

So they fell apart because of catfighting, why does this come as literally no surprise?

[@micox2]

I didn't know there could be 5 support mains in a team

[@Zoe.m.]

I don't understand the idea that females have to play support, I don't play this game but in the games I do play I always play some sort of long range dps. I hate being a healer, it means I have to constantly monitor everyone else's health bar, fuck that I'll choose tank over healer any day.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@Zoe.m. yeah youd be a support main in league Youd pick up Zyra one day and be like "I like this" and main support for the rest of your life. Then again im a girl who mains jungle because Elise is laifu

[@Exarch_Of_Justice]

@@Zoe.m. Support dosen't always = healer alot of "Tanks" in video games especially MOBAs are considered a support class since theyre role isint made to do alot of damage but to disrupt the enemy team and make it easier for theyre teamates to get kills. In my gaming experience and that includes MMOs,MOBAs and tabletop rpgs most female player will go between range dps or a healer. "Sometimes" a tank VERY rarely a Melee DPS or a Utility Class. Any types of archer is usually 7/10 what I see female players main. Edit: Also note there is alot of "attack supports" the big diffrent between em with dps class is they don't escalated in dmg..theyre still lethal just not the main damage

[@monkeybench]

So apparently throwing 5 random solo queue players together with a low average rank compared to the rest of the competitive scene is a bad idea. Gotcha. Two of my girl friends are in low to mid masters every season and saw siren as a fucking joke and a cringe fest. They were 5 typical egirls who saw dollar signs. (Not my words, quoting other girls)

[@UndertakerU2ber]

When gender is the only requirement, results will always be second...

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

This was almost like that time that professional women's team lost to some high school boys just playing for fun.

[@tyrkun1624]

The sad part is this could be any team sport.

[@edmilsoneletrica]

In my country the National Female Volleyball Team lost a a local male team. Mind you, the male team isn't even in the big leagues. Outside the town no one really knows them.

[@1237594861]

Alright. I didn't intend to watch more videos after this one. But then at the end there was a line that instantly convinced me : "a link to her stream and photography work will be in the description". I instantly subbed my man! Respect!

[@zactown3736]

Now i havent watched the video yet but I'd like to say your content is very unique, as a guy who just watch LCS and dont care much about the business (Big CLG fan but still dont know why DoubleLift left) this type of videos is very informative and you earned a sub.

[@Grim_enigma]

Big Ben Wallace doublelift got kicked out

[@andreashorsmark4428]

Aphroo said it's me or him

[@Murph1802]

Doublelift was kicked lol, he didn't leave. Better for him though since TSM is better

[@Xanthosis012]

CLG wanted to replace Pobelter with HuHi as starting midlaner, Pob doesn't want to be subtitute and wanted to leave CLG if he doesn't get the starting roster, Peter supports Pob, saying it will be a mistake and that Pobelter is much better with the current team, CLG ignores Peter and Pob, both became unhappy, CLG had to make a decision, whether to continue having Pob as midlaner and consequently makes Peter happy.. Or lose Peter and Pob as well...they went with the latter...All the while, Aphromoo, being the captain of the team, has to support the CLG management, that's why there was a conflict between Aphro and Dlift at one point but now they're all friends again

[@GamesCourier]

CLG basically kicked Doublelift because he didnt seem to work as well in their teamenvironment. Something that Link said too in his Manifesto. If you want to know more about it and more detailed, then probably watch Thorin's video about it.

[@QuickCravingsRecipes]

I think we should still pay respect to their courage. They did not fear standing out for women in a extremely competitive game. I’m not a feminist btw, and standing out for anything is enough to be applauded.

[@Jourmand1r]

they wanted attention and got it. when they split up they literally insulted each other.

[@bluehurricane15968]

Wow didnt know this happen. It sucks they were bad but someday we could see a girl or two in lcs that is good enough.

[@superpenguin04]

blue hurricane lul the only girls in pro gaming were all trans

[@resendezpro225]

Lol I doubt we will see any chick in lcs lol

[@jamesdevon3195]

Last year there was a girl on Team Renegade that got banned she was support.

[@Pies7363]

James Devon she is a trans so technically not yet.

[@goodbadluck5486]

Yeah for whatever reason females just don't seem to see games the same way their counter parts do and just can't put in the crazy dedication the others do and the ones that do play games all the time always tend to be weird and not actually good. Just isn't going to happen. Especially a team good enough to beat Asian teams.

[@laggystand3755]

*90% of the gaming community is mankind*

[@Ze_N00B]

Ze rest are those goddamn Martians.