The Story of the Roland Jupiter-6

[@merlynscave]

What was so wonderful is the fact that the guy who invented MIDI, I think it was Paul Smith, decided rather than license it he gave it to everyone for free. He could have made millions controlling it but didn’t. There should be more people like him in the world. What an amazing man.

[@davebellamy4867]

Dave Smith.

[@shane864]

Dave Smith. He passed away last month. He's one of the founding fathers of electronic music.

[@ian_b]

If you want to create a standard, you mostly have to make it free. We wouldn't have the web if people had had to license it to set up a webserver.

[@AutPen38]

Dave Smith at Sequential Circuits wrote the white paper and presented it at a conference for synth manufacturers, but the standard was essentially designed by committee. Roland liked the way that Oberheim synths could be chained together, but asked Dave Smith to come up with a more streamlined protocol which would also be supported by Yamaha, Korg et al. All the companies sought to benefit from it, in much the same way that internet firms agreed to use WWW standards, or various electronics companies pushed for the adoption of USB, instead of having proprietary connectors that limit their usability.

[@epicon6]

@@ian_bNo, i’m sure if he knew what was gonna happen he would have made everyone pay for it.

[@mack_solo]

6:12 - those prices! 😄 Anyone with the 1985 DeLorean: "All right, the first stop: 1993 - I need to stock up on them Jupiter keyboards!" 🤪

[@elizabethbitc9579]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the Jupiter 6 was used to make the soundtrack for the first 4 seasons of Thomas the Tank Engine, as it’s probably the most popular song made on the synth

[@Eric_In_SF]

Funny. Millennial has never heard of Depeche Mode, Gary Newman and thinks Thomas the train is the most famous song ever written with this synth. The Barney generation ugh.

[@AutPen38]

Banging techno choon! Oh wait.

[@Automatik234]

@@Eric_In_SF Thomas the tank engine was wildly popular with kids, even internationally tho. It can't be denied that that series' music had a very broad audience and is still fondly remembered today. Children may be a different audience, but still one to be taken seriously. Also the series' soundtrack is really well made, so no need to be offended.

[@neilbradley]

Co-author of the Europa Upgrade, here - Nice piece, Johnny! I'm not affiliated with Synthcom any longer (sold it to my partner in 2008) but good to see it alive and well in these classic/great synths!

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Hi Neil - it's a pleasure to meet you. I converted my JP-6 to Europa years ago - it's like an all new synth really especially in a more modern setup. I use CC control all the time for various adjustments from my DAW. Anyway thanks for saying hi and I hope we can stay in touch. BTW it seems like Synthcom isn't doing Europa anymore - I've had a few people ask about it. Do you know what's going on with the company?

[@neilbradley]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Jeffrey gets a few kits out here and there but his focus is elsewhere these days. I designed an adapter board for him a year or so ago, as the original chip that ran Europa is long out of production. I know he's got stock left, but it's all PLCC parts now (hence the adapter). I'd say just keep emailing and he'll eventually come up for air.

[@neilbradley]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Also, neglected to mention, but you should do a podcast on the development of Europa. We found out some amazing things about the original Roland code. ;-)

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

@@neilbradley interesting - I can imagine since it would be very early midi code and might have lots of oddities as they ironed things out.

[@neilbradley]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Three of the biggest finds - #1 - There were at least 3 versions of the main CPU board. They were all radically different from each other. #2 - Each had less than about 10 bytes of unused space. #3 - They didn't include much (if any) error checking. If you corrupt a Jupiter 6's memory in the A-1 slot with the wrong bits set, the board will never boot from that point forward. Suffice to say, we didn't wind up using any of the original code it was so bad. ;-)

[@dxtrs_mnpltr]

My all time favourite synth, one day it’ll be mine ♥️

[@atomkraftstudios]

Thank you for this. Clears up a few urban myths abut the JP6.

[@testohtoby]

Here we go !!! My favourite Roland poly !!!

[@carriersignal]

The JP-6 is a great synth. I think its failure in the market was largely due to unfortunate timing. Had the DX7 not stolen everyone's thunder, it may have done well. I have always felt it was FM synthesis that ended analog as during that time synthesis was still evolving and synths (and there use) were really in their heyday. When you think about it, analog poly-synths didn't really have too much time in the spotlight, but it was during that time that some of the most important synth music was produced.

[@F0nkyNinja]

They didn't stop using them after the DX7 came out, they just stopped buying new ones.

[@subtension]

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[@marmite-land]

You know what, thanks to the high frequency mode of VCO-2 and the band pass filter, and the modulation of cross-mod by enveloppe 1, it can very well pull out FM sounding stuff, i'm amazed everytime i play it

[@michaelmitchell8218]

Still got to love that DX7

[@AutPen38]

The DX7 definitely disrupted the market in a huge way. Weirdly, it's mostly because keyboard players wanted something that sounded like a piano; a sound that filtered analogue saw waves aren't very good at emulating. Ironically, the DX7 doesn't sound much like a real piano, but in the mid-'80s it was a revelation, but it took people a while to realise that what they really liked were the synthetic sounds (resonant basses, sweeping pads) that DON'T sound like acoustic instruments. The synths of the early '80s that we still enjoy today sounded like nothing else; they sound like THEMSELVES.

[@tillober1240]

Hey Johnny, thank you for making me discover Orbital!!! Absolutely love it.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

OMG - Orbital is my all-time fav. I love Orbital and owe so much of my musical journey to them. JP-6 is Orbital.

[@robinsutcliffe-video_art]

now listen to LFO Advance : )

[@FrankJacobsTV]

I love watching those videos about my childhood dream machines. Thanks and keep them coming!

[@davebellamy4867]

Video number 3 in a row: OBX, JP8 and this JP6. All great videos. You're featuring a lot of British bands!😎😊

[@PerChristianFrankplads]

Beautiful theme at 3:15.

[@gordon2402]

I dont know alot of people that like the design of the jp6 But in my opinion it looks so awesome Perfekt 80s design !!! Pink black white blue .... a synthwavers dream 🙂🎹🎶

[@marmite-land]

The futuristic red LEDs are even better in real life. I'm sure no one would notice if you took the panel of the JP-6 and put in in place of a spacecraft's main control panel. The overall design screams Cyberpunk

[@ashfaq1999]

Great video.

[@resofactor]

Definitely one of my favorite Roland's ever!

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Same here!

[@zibbybone]

I have all the analog Jupes and the JP-6 is my favorite.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Mine as well

[@davebellamy4867]

It's great to see different tastes in which sound and features are favourites. There was an SOS vintage synth review which liked it too.

[@subtension]

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[@vintageMIDI]

Sweet history lesson. Thanks JM; keep going!

[@user-ij4lt4ry6t]

Спасибо автору канала за такой подробный рассказ о легендарном синтезаторе.

[@asoundlab]

Awesome!!

[@subtension]

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[@magiusicgician4102]

Awesome video man!

[@8MoonsOfJupiter]

Great retrospective on a very capable and gorgeous looking synth! I owned a JP-6 (also purchased in 1993 for a knockdown price of about $400) and absolutely loved it - it was what I felt a synth should be: a control panel full of buttons, knobs, sliders, cool colours and flashing lights. It was such a versatile synth and though it's signature string and techno sounds builts its reputation, I found it could do some beatutiful, soft ambient pads and effects that, for me, really made it a wonderful instrument to explore soundscapes on.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

I always loved the look of the lighted red-buttons. I also loved how the grey / purple color scheme was much dark and more serious than the JP-8

[@JayKaufman]

My studio partner just scored a Jupiter-6 for a rather good price out in Vancouver, Canada from a studio bankruptcy and then had it shipped east. Sadly it doesn't have a Europa mod in it so if we can't source one (it's at the synth doctor's right now to get a checkup), we'll have to run it stock. This is great work Johnny. Your channel deserves more subscribers! These little mini-documentaries are excellent and thoroughly well researched and put together!

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Thanks Jay. Great score on the Jupiter-6. Europa is hard to get these days, but I have a few people asking about it. I'll try and get more information for you.

[@JayKaufman]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams thanks!

[@robinsutcliffe-video_art]

Tauntek re-wrote the firmware as well recently.

[@SacSynths_Jack_Z]

I love my 6! Great video!

[@ElectronicazMusic]

Excellent!

[@Paul-pc9qr]

Excellent video. Thanks!

[@flowmaka]

Great video! Keep them coming!

[@Cosmetic_Astro]

Is it just me but I wanna travel to the 90’s to get all the Roland Jupiter’s

[@DonSolaris]

Oh what a bummer!! Too bad I can't come with you folks. Already have three Jupiters. Daaang! Well... good luck my friends on your quest! Next universe boots in: 10^(10^(76)) years. Or maybe it does not. :o)

[@Cosmetic_Astro]

@@DonSolaris don’t worry you can get more and sell them for a fortune Ooh and wait I wanna try all your Jupiters it’s something I wanted for my birthday but not came or got one I was very sad and I’m probably never gonna get one unless time travel is possible or I can rent or buy one that the only way I can get my hand on one

[@DonSolaris]

@@marmite-land Weird indeed. A person won't make living from "youtube content" where 10 thousand views earns him 1 cent. I release soundsets for mass produced synths instead - that actually earn me enough for living.

[@HannahMontanaPromo]

@@marmite-land With less than 5 minute of searching the web I found out which Jupiters Don Solaris has, even some serial numbers and pictures. Before you go criticize someone it would be wise to do some research. This is a very nice and peaceful channel. I really don't understand why you harass people who did nothing wrong to you. Thanks!

[@HannahMontanaPromo]

@@marmite-land I would suggest using a Google translate if you don't understand English language. :) They were teasing each other about traveling in time, Universe reboot, etc. It was all fun to read. :) And then you came and started bullying one member with that nonsense: "You don't have a video, therefore you don't have a Jupiter".

[@thevellocet]

That moment when the KZbin algorithm actually works.

[@pfmerc10]

The Korg Poly-800 did not have membrane controls, it had a programmer under the digital display. The printed "Digital looking Decal" was basically a list of parameter values that need to be incremented/decremented by the use of the programmer.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

I know - it was a mistake - a few others noted that below - my bad which is odd as it was my first synth in 1986 - I saved up my money working at McDonald's to buy one.

[@pfmerc10]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Sorry didn't notice other peeps posted,,it was my first synth too, check out Fury 800, vst clone, very good, Thanks for reply and yeah great channel..All the best, Cheers Paul.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

@@pfmerc10 OK Cheers - the Fury 800 sounds great - brings me back!

[@subtension]

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[@jamiemartin1953]

I have a 3 jupiters. 4 , 6 and 8 ..All in Flight cases under my bed . Never use them but they're.the best investment I've ever made. Jupiter 8 will be 50 grand by 2030

[@maxmatson1578]

Once again huge props for mentioning Ministry!🎹👌

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

I'm a Huge fan the whole way through. I loved their progression throughout the 80s and 90s.

[@maxmatson1578]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Same here! In fact there my first concert back in 1999 on their "dark side of the spoon" tour at The Warfield, San Francisco.

[@anthonyrothercom]

Thanks for that great video.

[@ak.platinum9977]

Such great vids man. Thank you.

[@subtension]

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[@MPHORROCKS]

I loved my Jupiter 6, but the buttons were a bit clicky and cheap, but generally the build quality was great, and loved the colours on this and the JP-8. I sold it 8 years ago when I moved abroad, and actually now much prefer software synths with a nice retro interface. The upkeep costs and space you need for real synths is just a pain, and I never have to route a cable thru a mixer. I also find software versions generally just sit better together in a mix.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Absolutely.. my JP-6 has been relatively solid for years, but my JP-8 breaks down al the time - it's very temperamental now in it's old age

[@oliverfan72]

Fun Fact: This was used to make the music in the first 2 Seasons of Thomas the tank Engine

[@subtension]

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[@GEOSynths]

Great video, well done.

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[@pizzagogo6151]

Thanks! the Jupiter 6 is so rarely discussed was really great how you contrasted it features compared to the 8....one of those “what ifs?” If in the next gen Roland & combined sound/some aspects of the 8 with the performance features of the 6...what an amazing instrument 🤔.....instead we got the, not terrible but rather uninspiring jx8😒

[@epicon6]

Hope Roland Cloud adopts this some day

[@veerchasm1]

I bought one in 1985 with my paper route money, had to save for the whole year and pay my mom back to make the difference. Sold it in 2000 😢

[@adamlastiwka]

This was rad!

[@audiolead6407]

I still own 2 of these beauties ;)

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Nice! I used to own 2 JP-8's but sold one a few years ago.

[@farquoi]

Did you say they only sold 5000 units of it? 5:00 that immediately makes it more valuable than I previously thought

[@subtension]

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[@MimicoBungalow]

...had a Prophet 600...really early MIDI implimentation...great synth

[@fakshen1973]

Back in the day, advanced MIDI functionality meant much more expensive chips to hold the programming. We're talking about a time when just a few K of memory, RAM, and a processor to run it all was going to be an expensive addition.

[@davebellamy4867]

1:06 DX1! Now that is a beast!

[@t.n.3819]

I'm not sure if it will ever happen, but I can't wait for Roland to release a JP-06 Boutique.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

I could see it - it's different enough from the others in sound.

[@subtension]

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[@marmite-land]

It will never. It doesn't have a name in modern culture, it wouldn't sell very well. Although... I'd still like to see it happen as well as a cloud verison, because the price of the real things would skyrocket even more than it already does, and that means big return on investment for me hehehe :) (and also because people would see how good it sounds and what improvements were made upon the older jupiter 8)

[@alpharisc]

The chord sound in inner city big fun is sampled from nitro deluxe let's get brutal and that track uses a sound from a Yamaha FB01, no jupiter 6 for that chord stab..

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Just watch the interview on this. Sorry got my facts wrong - I'll edit that out. thanks for that info

[@alpharisc]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams No need to be sorry, great video. Love the Jupiter 6, never owned one myself personally but had one on loan for a good 5 years or so!

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

@@alpharisc I just edited it out using the youtube editor - I think it takes a few hours to update. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJSwp4uHl5J3ldE Great video btw. Inner City did use the JP6 - I'll try to find out where - thanks again.

[@MrBooboota]

Hi Johnny, great review of the JP-6, great to see you've kept it in great shape. Also, great to see you again (I am ex-EA and worked with you in SSX Tricky back in 2001).

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Great to see you here - is this Joe? Awesome that you're into synths!

[@MrBooboota]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Hi Johnny, yup it's Joe! Yeah I started getting serious collecting vintage synths (specifically) when I started working on the Blade Runner Revelations soundtrack...I have been hooked ever since. Let's get in touch. Are you in FB (not sure if you can private message anymore in the 'toob)?

[@subtension]

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[@davebellamy4867]

0:53 Not seen that photo of the first NAMM 1983 MIDI hookup, only the one with Dave Smith and Kakehashi san.

[@VladoT]

Oh, Trans-X (Pascal) great guy to work with on music and great live performance.

[@BryanJohnson1969]

I wish arturia would emulate the JP6. I also wish they would emulate the oberheim Xpander.

[@subtension]

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[@tillober1240]

Cool video. Just left a subscription, going to explore your channel. Best wishes from Germany.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Thank you Tillober1240!

[@subtension]

Good synth!

[@stefanpaulus7594]

I also had one in the first half of the 90s. At that time it cost 700 euros.

[@mikegeary8056]

These are grea

[@SirNotAppearing]

ay-yo, @cherryaudiovst can we get a "Mercury-6" ovah heah? I'd never really heard much about this synth (I got into synths about 1986), and it looks like a sweet device, with a nice selection of synthesis options. And, thanks to the Analog revival of the last 15 years, I'm betting street prices are ridiculous. Thanks for this and all of your "The Story of..." vids.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Thanks William.

[@bangkokdangerous2507]

rad, love my jupiter👹

[@mickrick84]

I played mine a lot and for about 25 years but I never really liked the sound.. its sound never really convinced me.. too thin and a little bit too cold.. not like a prophet5 or a Oberheim or a laterJX8P forexample... the use of a boss stereo super chorus helped a lot to make it sound much warmer, especially for patch, string and organ like sounds.. finally I sold it with no regrets.. I guess in the end it all depends on the sound and music you want to create..

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

I agree - it's not a Prophet-5 -it's much different. I feel it's great for electro and techno - maybe not so much for solo synth / ambient stuff.

[@AutPen38]

Do the red LEDs constantly flash like that, or is it just because of the frame rate of the video?

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Yeah - sorry that's the video framerate

[@christdolphin69]

i always try to guess which synths/gear will be sought after in the future that we wouldnt expect currently. like are volcas going to be $2000 on ebay 2 in 2047? maybe old digital synths like the cz's or ensoniq hybrids? theyre already pretty pricey considering what they are

[@vampolascott36]

When I play my Prophet wiith a Big Sky, I can't tell sometimes if what I'm hearing is part of the patch or the Big Sky.

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[@jeffpickering3716]

Makes me ill knowing I sold my Jupiter 6 (and Memorymoog and TB303/606, and SH-7 and Juno-6 and... ) for pennies on the dollar back in '89. Sorry, to my keyboards back in the day, for not appreciating you more :(

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Similar - I've owned and sold - Moog Minimoog, Juno-106, Juno-60, Korg Poly-6, Korg Mono/Poly all for fractions of what they go for now... but I guess it's a journey!

[@jeffpickering3716]

Yeah, i feel your pain brother. But we can take pride in knowing that we actually owned, and played these gems in their heyday. A Mini and a Poly 6 you say? Nice!

[@Bartislartfast]

The Poly 800 didn't use membrane buttons - the editable parameters were printed on the fascia for reference, but physical buttons were used to enter the parameter number and edit the values. Also, 'techno' wasn't a thing in 1983. Otherwise, great video!

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Thanks for that catch David - I totally forgot that which is odd considering the Poly 800 was my first synth!

[@Bartislartfast]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams It was mine too!

[@JSCote]

Was gonna say the same thing. My first synth too! Great video though.

[@UpandDownRacing]

Something new in the works

[@dmomcilovic9185]

Boutique version please

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Given everything they've done recently it feels like it's coming eventually.

[@helisoma]

@2:52 😍😍😍

[@ultimatefab]

What is the track we can heard at 2'20 ?

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

HI Fabien - That's a track I wrote back in the 90s.

[@ultimatefab]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams I love it ! Is there a mp3 somewhere ? I would really like to listen to it

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

@@ultimatefab Here's link to my Soundcloud Page - I just. posted it there for you. soundcloud.com/powerplant-music

[@ultimatefab]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Thank you so much !

[@drydessert4198]

4:01 6:15

[@micmarkno]

My JP-6 is broken since its Europa upgrade (3x rectified but still no function) now I will have the Europe upgrade removed

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

sad to hear that. Hope you get it working again

[@micmarkno]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams Thank you - yes, I hope to have it working by the end of the year

[@diegomax]

Name of the song at 0:30 please ?

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

That's New Order at 0:30 I believe, followed by Ministry.

[@stephengoss3604]

Dont suppose any one knows of a diy clone of the Jupiter 6

[@lundsweden]

DIY clones of polysynths are extremely rare, they are extremely complex and have lots of difficult to source parts!

[@jamesdinsdale4256]

early T D music with a J8

[@urokricardo]

First ! Nice vid Johnny ;)

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

Hope to see you soon Ricardo! Would love to check out your studio - take care!

[@subtension]

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[@deantiquisetnovis]

The Korg Poly 800 was horrible! It was my first Polysynth. The sound was rough and it was actually not polyphonic but paraphonic 🙄

[@FKU7777]

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[@jamesmeeker6933]

Easily the thinnest VCO-based polysynth. How do I know? I owned two JP-6's. It's decent, but very much a Jupiter 8 on a starvation diet. The versatile multimode filter is a strong selling point, however.

[@MegaBadgeman]

I may be wrong but I recon the JU6 relied totally on digital technology. I own a Prophet 600 and that just used digital technology for the envelopes and LFO's, as a result to my ears it sounds better.

[@infindebula]

Thinnest VCO polysynth until you play an Andromeda, or a Minilogue. Turn off the ensemble on a JP4 and its single VCO sounds pretty stark too. And don't forget the Six-Trak and all its VCO/CEM3394 buddies (the Max, Mult-Trak, Split-8, AX60 and AX73). But hey - not everything needs to sound all analog-gooey all the time. The JP6's crazy control ranges take you almost anywhere you could want to go, but it is a hard beast to tame as a result.

[@jamesmeeker6933]

@@MegaBadgeman The JP-6 is a lot less digital than you are suggesting. The aspect that really hurts the P600 is the lack of resolution on many of the controls, especially resonance.

[@MegaBadgeman]

@@jamesmeeker6933 Are you sure you're not confusing the resonance with the cutoff? Put the resonance on high then move the cutoff up a and down, The stepping will be really noticeable.

[@jamesmeeker6933]

@@MegaBadgeman Both are especially crude in resolution. It's been more than 20 years since I had a P600 (got a Prophet 5 in 2000) but if memory serves me correctly they were both steppy.

[@TryptychUK]

Many assume the JP-6 is just a scaled down JP-8, but it's closer to a JX-8P with knobs on. Horrible things. Poor build quality, weedy sounding and the sliders would snap off due to using plastic faders instead of the metal ones they used on the JP-8 If you see one going, avoid it.

[@johnnymorgansynthdreams]

I toured with mine for years and it held up well. The metal sides helped. Agree on the sliders though - definitely had to replace more than and few, and find some new end caps. Also agree on the sound - it is 'weedy' but I think that's why it works as something different, more for techno I think.

[@TryptychUK]

@@johnnymorgansynthdreams The buttons were also cheap and nasty. I think there was a period when everyone was cutting corners, Moog, SCI, Emu were all turning very plasticy at one point. Remember my first use on a MemoryMoog and I pushed a button and a keycap flew across the room.

[@infindebula]

The sliders on the JP6 are not great, but they are metal. When I bought mine about 15 years ago, I also got a full set of replacement sliders from Technology Transplant. So far I've used two and given one away. Everything else including buttons and jacks have been pretty good though. I wouldn't say it's "weedy sounding", but I would say it's "more capable of weedy sounds" than other vintage analogs. Program something like a JX-8P or Juno-106 and you quickly realize that Roland has (over-) engineered out the ability for these instruments to make an ugly sound. They feel as though every sound you play is a variant of the the same patch. The Jupiter-6 can sound warm and beautiful, but without care it probably be shrill or harsh. Personally I like that. To me, it's more alive.

[@subtension]

Amazing collection of Vintages analogs synth & drums machine kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2Obdad-fK6Vndk&ab_channel=LeonardLORM ARP2600-POLYSIX-FULL ROLAND TR SERIE-PRO one-SH101- MC202-TB303-RE201 and more...

[@syntheticmoment9994]

The Jupiter 6 has been a shit tier synth since day one and it will remain one forever. Don't buy one. Any VST is better sounding. If you want a cheap, god tier synth, buy a Jupiter 4 or a Korg Trident. They are the two remaining deals to be had in vintage synthesis.

[@marmite-land]

i couldn't disagree more